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March 18, 2025 20 mins

Ep.51. In this episode of Nurses with Voices, Dr. Lendra brings HillmanTok NURS 201 to the podcast, discussing critical issues facing nurses today, including burnout, imposter syndrome, and various leadership styles. The conversation emphasizes the importance of recognizing these challenges and adopting a growth mindset to empower nurses in their careers. Dr. Lendra also explores different leadership styles, such as transformational and servant leadership, and encourages listeners to reflect on their personal leadership journeys.  The discussion also delves into the differences between conscious and unconscious bias, highlighting their impact on decision-making and workplace dynamics.

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Takeaways

Burnout is emotional exhaustion, not just physical tiredness.
Imposter syndrome affects many, even successful individuals.
Empowerment and self-care are crucial for overcoming challenges.
Transformational leaders inspire and motivate their teams.
Servant leadership prioritizes the needs of the team.
Situational leadership adapts to the needs of the moment.
A growth mindset is essential for leadership success.
Flexibility is key in navigating challenges in leadership.
Self-assessment helps identify areas for personal growth.
Continuous learning and connection are vital in nursing.

 

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"we all experience imposter syndrome"
"you have to embrace challenges"

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(00:37):
.
Welcome
back

(01:12):
to another episode of Nurses with voices. I'm Dr. Lendra.
Today we are bringing HillmanTok Nurse 201 class
to nurses with Voices podcast because, well,
a tech had another plan, so we're going to make it work. For those of
you who are tuning in for the first time, this podcast
is all about overcoming burnout, breaking barriers in healthcare, and

(01:34):
empowering nurses like you to take your first step into
nursing leadership. Now, you know I have to review hot topics. So again,
if you turn tuning in for the first time, I usually do hot
topics in the beginning, so I'm just going to do a couple of hot topics
just so that we can jump right into today's leadership topic.
Well, this one is again, more

(01:55):
distractions. So apparently the January 6th committee
pardons are void. Now, what do you mean? I
know you're probably thinking, oh, do you mean the January 6th rioters? No, I'm
referring to the. And let me
just read the article so that you'll get an
idea of what I'm talking about. I just put my glasses on to read it.

(02:17):
Sorry, guys, I just want to read this to you real quick. So it says
here President Trump is claiming with without evidence that
some of former President Joe Biden's actions are invalid because he
allegedly used a machine to automate signatures on
documents, which is a long standing practice in the White
House. In a late night Truth social post,

(02:39):
Trump said his predecessor's Preemptive pardons of
members of the House committee investigated investigating the
January 6th insurrections are hereby declared
void, vacant and of no further force of
effect. And of no further force of effect. Because of the fact.
Because of the fact that they were done by auto pin. I don't

(03:00):
know. It's
like this, this stuff just gets better. It just keeps getting better and
better. How about France wants their gift back. Yeah, they want the Statue
of Liberty back. Did you guys hear about that? Now this was in an article
by from the New York Post and a few other
news articles. I'll read you the one from USA Today. Give us back the Statue

(03:22):
of Liberty, said French members of the European
Parliament. The Statue of Liberty. You
guys know the story of the Statue of Liberty, right? You know the Statue of
Liberty was given to us as a gift to make a long story short for
the Declaration of Independence. Now the French is saying that we are
no longer worthy. The French politician who was making headlines

(03:43):
in his country for suggesting that the US Is no longer
worthy of the monument that was a gift from France nearly
140 years ago. This is in a different political
reporting article. So apparently we're no longer worthy because of the
now. This is what happens when leadership changes and when you have someone who comes
into a leadership position and starts to make

(04:05):
decisions without thinking about the
consequences of their decision or how their
decisions will have a domino effect on everything and
everyone. I think that's actually a great segue going
into our discussion talking about leadership. We're kicking off week one of
Nurse 201 with a discussion on

(04:25):
recognizing burnout, imposter syndrome and leadership. We're going to break down
the different leadership styles and explore the
transition from bedside to leadership. The first thing I want to talk about
is really recognizing burnout, bias and imposter
syndrome in leadership. Burnout is not just feeling tired. It's
emotional exhaustion. That depersonalization

(04:47):
and that diminished feeling of personal accomplishment. You start to
feel drained, you start to feel cynical. And all of these things can impact your
leadership. Now burnout isn't just about feeling
tired. It's emotional exhaustion,
depersonalization
that reduced personal accomplishment.

(05:09):
So as a nurse, you might feel drained,
silent, cynical, or even question your impact.
And as a leader, burnout can trickle down to your
team. And you have to ask yourself, have you ever felt this
way? And if so, you're not alone. And you need to
recognize that another thing is bias. There's,

(05:32):
there's, there's bias that takes place in leadership and, and
bias shows up in different ways. So I wrote a book, Confessions of a
Nurse, the Conscious and unconscious bias in Healthcare. That was my
subtitle and that's because again, and I didn't. I want backtrack a little bit and
just expand a little bit more on burnout and bias.
Now there are little lifestyle shifts that you can do to,

(05:54):
to help you reclaim your life. If you're, if you're going through burnout or if
you, you know, you're recognizing it, there are things
you can do. Exercise for one, incorporating journaling
in your day, having some type of routine. And let me break this down. So
maybe in the morning you have a morning routine where you get up and you
journal. When you meditate, you give yourself some self time

(06:15):
and then you also incorporate exercise. The biggest tip that I can
probably give you is having boundaries and
understanding that no is a complete sentence.
These are the things that are going to help you to combat burnout.
And I talk about this in, I have a guide to beat burnout. And
I'll make sure that it's in the show notes so that you can access it.

(06:38):
Some of the things that are in the guide and I'll share with you is
physical activity, having a routine.
Maybe you start to incorporate some type of exercise, even if it's just 10
minutes. Maybe you meditate, you start to take time to take care of yourself
in the morning. Like let that just be your self time. Maybe you start to
journal in the morning. Putting things down on paper can be so

(06:59):
powerful. When you start to write out your visions, when you start to write
out your thoughts, it can be really powerful. Another
strategy to overcome burnout, saying no,
setting boundaries and understanding that no is
a complete sentence. It will really help you to reclaim
your energy and set boundaries. Your, your boundaries should be as

(07:21):
large as the state you live in. And, and I, and I say
that, and I mean that seriously because you have to learn how to
say no. And someone shared this with me some time ago and they said
when you, when you're constantly saying yes to something, you're saying
no to yourself for something. What happens is you end up becoming
resentful. And you don't want that because we want to, we want

(07:43):
to help people, but we don't want to sacrifice our own
wellbeing in the meantime. The key in breaking through burnout,
it lies in you taking control of your career and your financial future.
Nurses are natural caregivers and leaders. So there's a leadership
quality that is already inside of you. You just have to be able to
identify it, that leadership quality makes you that much more

(08:05):
suitable for entrepreneurship and how you can get started on your
wealth journey. And again, I have in these things are in the guide. I'm just
going to just name them off and you can review the guide because I want
to talk about bias a little bit, but when you talk about your
wealth journey, what you want to look at is you want to evaluate your career.
Where are you in your career? What paths are you exploring? You should start

(08:27):
to explore new paths, start building generational wealth,
start to look for different passive income streams. These are the things
that we should be looking at. If you're experiencing burnout,
understand the key is to recognize what you're going through. Recognize that
you're not alone, recognize that others have been through it. Recognizing the
symptoms, recognizing the causes, whether it's

(08:49):
excessive workloads, whether it's lack of autonomy or the age old
favorite, poor work life balance. The factors can just leave you feeling
very undervalued and you have to be the one to choose you.
And sometimes when you're dealing with things like bias in the workplace,
which is what I was dealing with, sometimes it can really hinder your
growth and you have to be able to identify it. You have to be able

(09:12):
to identify what bias looks like. The way I broke it down in my book,
I broke it down with conscious and unconscious bias. And when
you think about unconscious bias, let's talk about unconscious. No, let's talk about conscious bias
first. Conscious bias refers to deliberate,
intentional actions. And what do I mean now? Maybe
their attitudes or their prejudice is just

(09:34):
obvious. They do things intentionally so. For example, your
hiring manager may not choose a particular candidate
though they're qualified, but it's because of their ethnic background and because
they believe they're less qualified. Or a nurse refusing to treat
a patient based on their gender, their gender identity, or their
sexual orientation. Or a patient choosing to refuse

(09:57):
a caregiver based on their identity or their racial or
ethnic background. And then you have the unconscious bias. Now this
is the one that's really, really tricky. Your unconscious bias. That's more
referring to stereotypes. Stereotypes can influence a person's decision
making without them even realizing it. So that's your unconscious
bias. These biases are shaped by more by your background or

(10:19):
your culture. And it's because it's
unconscious. People may automatically do it and
not realize it. An example of unconscious bias is a doctor
assuming that a male patient is more knowledgeable about a specific
condition than a female patient. Sometimes society
automatically associate doctors with males

(10:40):
or Sometimes society automatically associate nurses with
females. Maybe a, or maybe nurses associate leadership
roles like CEOs as a male role as opposed to
that being a woman's role. And these are
lighter examples, but it's just to give you the analogy of what conscious and
unconscious bias can look like. Both conscious and unconscious bias can

(11:02):
impact healthcare, workplace diversity and patient care.
Recognizing and addressing the biases is crucial to creating a
diverse and inclusive environment. And I can discuss this in
depth because bias shows up in many different ways. Who
gets promoted, who gets mentored, who feels seen
in leadership roles. We need to be aware of

(11:24):
both conscious and unconscious bias. And these type of things can
lead to imposter syndrome. So then you have imposter syndrome and
it's that little voice that makes you question, am I qualified? That's
imposter syndrome. Many nurse leaders deal with this, especially
those who are just stepping up from the bedside. They
experience this a lot. The key is recognizing it

(11:46):
and shifting your mindset. The key is mindset
plays a huge factor when it comes to
bias. When it comes to burnout and when it
comes to imposter syndrome, you have to be, you have to feel
empowered, you have to be confident and you have to make sure that you're putting
things in place for your self care.

(12:08):
Because if you don't do these things, you're going to continue to
experience the imposter syndrome and all of the above. I
recently went to lunch with someone who is becoming so near and dear to
me. I recently went to lunch with my accountability
partner and she is like a
phenomenal woman, let me tell you. And she,

(12:30):
she knows everyone. She's like such a people person, you
know, she inspires me. Like I thought I was a talker and she
can, she could. And I thought I could talk to anyone. She can talk to
anyone. And I love that about her. And
she's writing a book. And we were going through writing a book and I'm going
to talk to you guys a little bit about that too in one of the
episodes. But we were talking about, you know, her book that she wants to write.

(12:54):
She goes, what am I doing? What if no one reads it? Does anyone want
to hear this? And I was just like, do you hear yourself? You
are definitely going through imposter syndrome. And
this is a phenomenal woman. This is someone who, let me tell you, this is
someone who was recently, and I'm talking recently, like
October, November of 2024 was a part in,

(13:16):
in, in a documentary. She's been an extra
on different movies. Not that that's the only thing that makes her.
Let, let's be clear. She's someone who was able to acquire over a million
dollar in scholarship funding for her children. She's someone who
teaches other people how to do the same thing. I can go on and on
about this woman. She's such a phenomenal woman. She has resources

(13:38):
at JP Morgan Chase, she has. All right,
I say all of this to say we all
experience imposter syndrome. At some point or another
we have to be able to recognize it and shift our
mindset so that we can overcome it. And that's key and that's
what's most important. So I'm gonna go move on because I started to

(14:01):
go down a rabbit hole there. And that's really the point of what I'm trying
to say now. I wanna talk to you about the types of
leadership and hopefully you'll be able to
recognize your type of leadership, the type of leader that you want to be and
the type of leader you don't want to be. And one of the first types
of leadership that I want to talk about is transformational leadership.
Transformational leadership is that leader that everyone wanted to be a few years

(14:24):
ago and I think maybe still now, right, maybe so. Now
transformational leaders, they are visionaries,
they're inspiring, they push you, they push for
change and for growth and, and think of leaders
who motivate teams towards a greater
mission. That's your transformational leader. Now your

(14:47):
servant leadership. Think of servant leader. Think of a
servant. They prioritize their teams, they
prioritize their team's needs, ensuring that they have
what they need to be successful. It's about serving
before leading. So that's your servant leader. Then you have
your situational leaderships. And this leadership style

(15:09):
adapts based on circumstances. So some
situations calls for a hands off approach while
others may need direct guidance. And I'm going to use myself
to explain the different type of leadership styles. So transformational
leadership, an example of transformation. Excuse. An example
of transformational leadership is starting a

(15:31):
community. I'm a member of the Queen's Entrepreneur Group. And
in the Queen's Entrepreneur Group we provide resources.
Now, the same accountability partner that I was just telling you about that, you know,
we were talking about the imposter syndrome. She created a
group that we're in, it's called the Queen's Entrepreneur Group. Within that group,
we provide resources to one another, right? To help inspire one

(15:53):
another, to help, to network, to help people understand what's
going on in the community. That's how we support one another. And
that's transformational leadership. Creating a group and within
that group, providing resources, providing to inspire and
motivate each other for career growth and for business
growth. That's an example of transformational leadership. You're

(16:15):
building up a network, you're building someone up. An
example of servant leadership is what I mentor other
nurses to help them to start their own businesses. That's an
example of servant leadership because I'm providing a service to them
and I'm helping nurses who are struggling with bias and
burnout to transition from bedside

(16:37):
or transition to start their own business. I'm providing them a service
and I'm putting their needs before mine. Part of that is ensuring that
they have the tools that they need to build their businesses or
to elevate in their career. And then when you talk about
situational leadership, now, my wellness
business, situational leadership was me needing to adjust

(16:59):
my leadership approach when it comes to hiring and
mentoring new nurses for my wellness business.
So that's more of a situational leadership. Mentoring them
on the processes and gradually giving them more
autonomy as they gain more experience. Now, when we talk
about shifting from bedside to leadership, this shift

(17:21):
is more than just about a title. It's about shifting your
mindset. The bedside, you focus on direct patient
care. In leadership, your responsibility
expands to policies, people, management
and organizational goals. It's a big shift, but with the right
tools is possible. And when I say tools, I mean the

(17:41):
tools that you need to keep your mindset in place. When I say tools,
tools that you need to keep, to stay confident. The tools that you need for
a growth mindset. Now, what is growth mindset? So your growth
mindset is basically your belief in yourself, your confidence in
yourself, that your intelligence and your abilities are
enough. Art can be developed through hard work, and it's a

(18:03):
contrast to a fixed mindset. Now, a fixed
mindset believe that their talents and intelligence are
static. So in leadership, having a growth mindset means you have
to embrace challenges because they're always going,
they're. They're always going to be there. You have to be flexible. You know,
I, there was a nurse who, she used to work for

(18:25):
me and she was, she was very.
I don't want to say that. I don't want to offend anyone. She was very
er, so don't. To my ER nurses, don't get offended,
but she was very. And I don't know. But, you know, I don't know if
this was ER though, because ER nurses are generally kind of
like laid back. She was more very

(18:49):
well, I need this but and I've seen her type before and
I've seen the type where as a nurse leader I've seen the
type where very what about this? What about that, what about
that? And it's not so much a type a personality, it's just
more, you know, you need to know every detail
and I get it. But in business and if something so and if something like

(19:11):
doesn't go exactly how you think it's going to go, you're freaking out
and you cannot be that way in leadership and you can't be that
way in business either. And when I
say there needs to be more, you have to
be prepared for challenges because you are going to have challenges. And if you
freak out every time something doesn't go as planned,

(19:33):
you're not going to, you're not going to make it in leadership and you're definitely
not going to make it in business because you have to have a level of
flexibility for that unknown. You have to have a level of flexibility
for when things doesn't go, don't go as planned. So I think we've
covered quite a bit. So for this week, your assignment is
to complete your self assessment. This will

(19:55):
help you to identify your personal strengths and areas for
growth. I'll post a few links to assessments in the
show notes and I want you to reflect on your results and think about what
leadership style resonates with you. So that's a wrap class.
Make sure you subscribe, make sure you subscribe, share the
episode and connect with me on social. Let's keep this leadership journey

(20:18):
going. We have three more weeks. Until next time, make sure that you
stay inspired, stay educated and stay empowered.
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