We Talk About EVERYTHING with Weapons Actors Clayton Farris

On this episode of On the Rocks, get out the hot dogs and witch sticks as we get personal with Clayton Farris, hot off his role in the hit film Weapons. We do a deep dive into his career, sexual identity, queer representation in horror, acting technique, sobriety, that intense scene with Aunt Gladys, and so much more! What didn’t we talk about?…with guest co-host model and musician Steven Dehler...with me, your sassy host with the sassy most, Alexander Rodriguez. Raise a glass and let the drinks begin, it’s On the Rocks!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Straw media.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
Hello on the Rockers, get out the hot dogs and
wit sticks. We have actor in social media personality Clayton
Farris here hot off the film with Weapons on My
co host Runway and Print, model and musician Stephen Taylor
and me, your sassy host with a sassy most. Raise
a glass. It's on the Rocks.

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place where we're too glad to give a damn. It's
so weird how little things can change your whole life
to I lost my hair brush, alrip hairbrush, and you
might be thinking, like, so what, it's a hair brush.
I've had the same hair brush since I was a kid.
It's like those old fashioned plastic handle brushes. And you
know how you get used to like a certain thing
and you just like it's the way you use it,

(01:14):
and it's just always like that.

Speaker 3 (01:16):
Way stabby hair brush, like you know, the ones.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
Like it just but it's so like part of my
childhood and getting ready. So I had to go to CVS.
It was traumatic. How dare you it happened? But it
was so tramatic that I go to CVS and it
was so weird because I'm like, how do you go
shopping for hair brush? And none of them looked like
my hairbrush? I'd still so I bought four hair brush anyway,

(01:44):
thrilling part of my CS.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
I don't own a hair brush.

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(02:55):
You and I don't really hang out outside of West
Hollywood like in the real world, but we have. It's
a little bubbo at this it is. But I I
we actually left West Hollywood and we went to go
see weapons. It was like the first like.

Speaker 4 (03:06):
The real thing, you know that technically in West Hollywood, right, well.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
But still we were not alone, but it was so
it was so fun like sitting next to you because
we had not like that was like normal. What is
your relationship with horror films? Are you a fan of
horror films? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (03:22):
I I like it's funny. My favorite films are comedy
and horror. So it's like, you know, it was the
perfect yeah, I mean yeah and so like and I
felt a lot of comedians end up doing really amazing
horror too.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
I mean Robin Williams.

Speaker 4 (03:35):
That you know, and things like what did you lower
your voice Williams? I just like you know him and
not yet I don't remember the name of the movie.
But yeah, yeah, so good, so good. But yeah, so
I I I know the entire universe of because the
Conjuring comes out tomorrow. I've seen all of them, Like

(03:55):
the last is not good host you know, it wasn't forgetful.
But I did like that ann about because it's all
part like I said, like there you think creating about
all the universe and stuff.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
So I do, I do.

Speaker 4 (04:03):
I do, like, like I guess in horror comedy are
sort of very go back and forth between the two.
I've seen I watch everything you know, pop culture. I
love watching movies and stuff, but those are the ones
that lean towards the most.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
Well.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
I liked Weapons because it's like getting back to like
what horror films are good for, you know, I think
we kind of got off track. I even enjoyed a
horror film like this and so Long because it took
me by surprise. Yeah, yeah, I did.

Speaker 4 (04:24):
I did, like because I think the thing about horror
films it brings me back to, like the scream in
the nineties, is a lot of it is the promotion
of it, you know, And I don't think we've had
like a promotion of a film like Weapons since we've
had sort of you know, like Screamer just just sort
of kind of you didn't know what was going to
happen if.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
The trailers give the movies all away. In all they
give the ending away in the trailers. And this you
saw how many trailers for Weapons, and it was so
well marketed. Yeah, but to your point, you have no
clue what you're in store for marketing And even the
first fifteen minutes of the movie, I'm like, oh, this
is a formula horror film, okay, blah blah blah, and
I'm like, oh God, and then it just shifts and
then it ships and then it shifts. All right, well

(05:03):
we're gonna shift. I'm scared. Yeah, No, we're gonna deep dive.
So this is just a yes show. We got some opinions,
and I've heard some opinions, and so we're gonna talk
about it all. So let's bring on the man of
the hour. Clayton Ferris born in Dallas, Texas. Yeah, he's
enjoying the spotlight for his role as sassy Pants Terry

(05:24):
in the hit film Weapons On. His previous credits span
standout genre projects across or in comedy, including American Horses, Story, Ratchet,
The Morning Show, the hit A twenty four slasher Max En.
He's also built a robust digital presence through witty, relatable,
sketch comedy, writing and starting videos that consistently rack up
millions of views, earning him the nickname the Larry David

(05:45):
of TikTok, which I love, Curvying Enthusiasm one of my
favorite shows in the world. He's a long time LA
based after and writer. He spent seventeen years in Hollywood,
honeying his signature blend of grounding performances and shark Amedic timing.
Please welcome Clayton Ferreir.

Speaker 3 (06:02):
Thank you for having me.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
All right, let's get down to it. Take a breath.
I'm really excited because number one, I loved your performance,
Thank you, And then I went back and I saw
it again, and then going through your TikTok and all that,
there's just so much to your story. And we have
a lot of entertainment people that watch and listen to
the show, So I really want to talk about your

(06:25):
career as a whole because it's like, yes, this movie
is such a hit right now and you're in the spotlight,
but there's this whole career that comes as a tag.
It's not an overnight success story whatso sure, Yeah, And
I think that's so important for people to realize.

Speaker 3 (06:40):
Some actors never even get that totally.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
And I'm actually that's what I'm finding kind of talking
about weapons is what I like is to kind of
encourage people to keep you know, like it's it's just
I like sharing that part of it of like, look,
I'm just a normal actor that moved here from Dallas
and kind of got found my way, and everyone's path
is different, so I'm enjoying my own path even though
it's taking me like a long time to have like
a big success.

Speaker 3 (07:02):
You know.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
Well, let's talk about your your sense of humor. You
have such comedic timing and everything that you do, even
in horror, And we talked about the blend of comedy
and horror. Where did you get that kind of in
your TikTok videos? Where did you get that sense of
humor where you is a family trade class clown.

Speaker 3 (07:19):
I really think it is.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
It's a lot of like it's a defense mechanism you
develop when you're young. Probably that's what I think it was.
Because I got picked on a lot as a kid.
How come just because I was different, like I was
a queer kid I was. I got called fag, a lot, girl,
a lot, all those like traditional like horrible names that
they call you in the South.

Speaker 3 (07:41):
And I think I was like, Okay, at least I
can make.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
The girls laugh around me. At least I can make
friends this way, and.

Speaker 3 (07:49):
Something about that, I mean, just you just become someone.
I just became someone.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
That pays attention to other people and picks up on
the things that they, you know, do in the little intricacies, And.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
It just was.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
It started off as a defense mechanism, a natural thing.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
Maybe I don't know, but it's.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
Just developed into how my mind works and how I
look at life in a comedic way.

Speaker 3 (08:12):
Does that make sense? Ye?

Speaker 2 (08:14):
Onder. We had Leslie Jordan on the show The Late
Leslie and he said one of the very first things
that he knew his weapon. His weapon was laughter. Yeah,
make them laugh before they can bully you, or make
yourself the joke before they do, and make it funny
and take the power. That's exactly it.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
It was a whole transfer of and also like family
like it's not all like trauma based. It's like I
have a funny family, and like they encourage laughter and
humor and that sort of thing.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
And I have to tell our audience we're in a
heat wave and I'm literally in here.

Speaker 1 (08:50):
Humor from the most your mom or your dad, probably my.

Speaker 3 (08:54):
My mom, she's like that. She's probably sillier, but both
like good laughers. I like to hear my parents laugh.
I want to like, pat you down.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
Clinton. We do we do really good things, which Clinton.
We do a lot of research on this show. I
have your mop shot from two thousand and two. We
can put on this great, not just kidding.

Speaker 1 (09:18):
I have to jail a couple of times, which is surprising,
Like people look at you. I guess we all got
a drink. But always for like dumb.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
Stuff, always like once, he's like always, there's no like
just like Jesus, there's this chunk of your life that
I couldn't see Jesus from from like the youth for
teenage years and then all of a sudden, he's a
carpenter in Nazareth, so too like your life. It's like, okay,

(09:49):
then you're in l A. How do you get from
Dallas to l A? Like that's the chunk that I'm missing,
and I want.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
To hear playing. I drove her actually literally.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
I mean, I don't know how interesting that is. But
you know, I went to college, graduated. I didn't come
from a family of people that like went to college
a lot. I was one of the first ones in
my family.

Speaker 3 (10:09):
So it's like, you go to college, but then you
don't know what to do with the college.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
Did you study?

Speaker 1 (10:15):
I studied, well, I went to University of Texas at Dallas,
so I actually studied my degrees in art and performance.

Speaker 3 (10:21):
So it was it was actually more.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
Your family was really excited, like final they going to
college performance.

Speaker 3 (10:27):
Please like do a business degree or something. No, so
I but and yeah, I mean literally I took like
poetry classes and painting classes and that sort of thing.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
And.

Speaker 3 (10:39):
Out of school that wasn't even an art school.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
It was like it was like a math school basically.

Speaker 3 (10:45):
So I wasn't guided very well.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
Like you know, most a lot of kids go to
like NYU and then go out or like have those
traditional tracks.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
Mine was just a little more. I.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
I just went to college and then I when I graduated,
I was doing local theater in Dallas, and then.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
I mean it's not bad. It's like regional theater.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
You know. There's a few like equity houses there. There's
one theater called Uptown Players, which is like the queer
theater there that I did, actually did a lot of shows.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
He just directed a show there last year. Yeah, he
directed Stan Zimmerman's Golden Girls.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
Yeah I know Stan, I know Stan. I didn't really
I did one of his plays here. He directed me
in a play which one it was called I forget
what it was called, but there was like a plant
in it. Okay, years ago, it was it was years ago,
but yeah, so I was doing I did shows at
Uptown Players and just around town.

Speaker 3 (11:39):
But I would I just.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
Started working in the hotel business, like that's what I
was doing. So I was just like, I I just
got a job at Hotel Zaza in Dallas, which was
like this like cool hotel. And then in o'cliffe they
opened this hotel called the Belmont, and I went and
I was like a manager, like a front desk manager.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
I could see you playing a funny managers exactly, I
can see.

Speaker 3 (12:03):
Weirdly, my elementary school yearbook sixth grade graduation says what
do you want to be when you grow up? And
it says a hotel manager.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
But I don't even think I knew that was a job.
I don't know why job. I think that's weird. That
is a weird job.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
I can see, yes, or like, of course it's very specific.
I don't know. I still like hotels, guys.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
That's one of those things because when you think of
like a hotel manager, and that's going to be a
hostel manager and a TV show, now is the guy
that's like for sneaking and like that sort of thing.
And and yeah, so I did that. So I did
my dream and then I got laid off at the
during the recession because this hotel was like struggling. And

(12:53):
one of the clients I had was AFI was the
AFI Dallas Film Festival. And this woman that worked there
was she worked in all the festivals she worked there,
She worked at Altfest, she worked at LAFF. And I
got laid off and I called her and I said, hey,
I met you. You were telling me you work in
the festival world. Do you have anything that I could come,

(13:13):
like volunteer at or something this summer. She's like, I
have a ticketing job at Outfest this summer, and like,
you know what Outfest is. It's like the big LGBT
film festival. And she was like she was like, she
was like it starts in two weeks. And I just
like sold. I like had a house, I had furniture
at everything. I got rid of it and I moved

(13:34):
to La then, just thinking I was going to.

Speaker 3 (13:36):
Come here for like the summer to work at this
film festival. And I've been here seventeen years.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
Yeah. So I love this story for so many different reasons.
Number One, we're so afraid to like reach out, you know,
for you to have the gumption to call this woman
and be like and then it's not a job that's
probably what your first priority or your first pick would be,
or not the most glamorous, but it's what you had
to do. And it was a step in the right direction.

Speaker 1 (13:59):
It was a kind of came from like yeah, exactly,
Like I was a ticket taker. I probably got paid
like ten fifteen dollars an hour. Like it wasn't like
or it was like sold tickets.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
But in this film environment. But I was around it
must have been like God, I'm exactly, and.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
It kind of threw me into this world and I
was like, oh, this is this is cool to be
a part of this world and like get to like
I was getting to know filmmakers and just being in
LA at that time was like so exciting and very
much like the dream was alive, you know, it was fresh.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
A lot of people come to La to live that dream,
but they're not willing to do the work. And sometimes
you have to be the ticket taker. Sometimes you have
to work you know, uber eats or whatever you need
to do, and so many people to put yourself in
the environment to be around.

Speaker 3 (14:48):
Totally.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
I love this story.

Speaker 3 (14:51):
Yeah, I mean that's the.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
Missing years well, HBO does a series about your life,
like that's going to be the Missing Missing Years.

Speaker 1 (14:59):
Also of the Missing Years is I I graduated and
like Dallas is a big as you know, drink in hand,
a big party town and you do a lot of
drinking there.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
Yes, And they had like three West Hollywood Streets and
in Dallas.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
Yeah, and just even there, the whole town is like
is people just drink there, Like we started drinking and
when you start drinking in high school when you're like
thirteen years old in Dallas, and I was just drinking
and that was my life, and I was like I
got to get away from this. And I literally had
the experience where I was driving my car out here,
you know, and I remember I was like going through Arizona,

(15:34):
was late at night, the like the like my sun
roof was open, and I was listening to like Tiny Dancer.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
I was like as I was driving into like that's
another thing for you.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
But it was just that like I was like shedding.
I was like, oh, there's like twenty because I moved
here when I was twenty seven or twenty eight, so
like some people are like at twenty eight, they're like
I'm done.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
For life's over there.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
Yeah, and I was like, this is like the beginning
my life.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
So yeah, but's talk about that.

Speaker 3 (16:03):
And then seventeen years later I got in a movie,
but let's talk about so.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
We're getting smashed over here and you're not. You live
a soberish life, yes, And I was like, what does
he mean by getting smashed? We're having today? I guess
like you're looking behind me, like you, but we haven't.
People who have led a sober life kind of had
to be in a closet in a certain way. We're

(16:30):
now talking about sobriety. We've had many episodes of On
the Rocks where we're not drinking.

Speaker 3 (16:34):
I heard you say that in an episode.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
Yeah, because no one. But it used to be like
such a stigma, like oh, he's sober that he can't partake,
or he can't be an entertainment, he can't be your life,
or he can't be the party guy. What was that
choice to lead a sober life? And how do you
deal with that being in entertainment because it's all party, party, party, Yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (16:52):
Mean exactly like you when you go to these events
and like you're trying to network and that sort of thing.
It's like you if you don't have anything to talk about,
if you don't have you're not in like a hit
project or something, and you're wanting to chat with people.

Speaker 3 (17:04):
It's like, I just need to like take a shot.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
That liquid courage will help me go up to someone
I respect and say hi and like be like, you know,
I'm an actor too, or whatever.

Speaker 2 (17:16):
But if you moderate I ran after Joanna Cassidy Ones
and I was very slosh and I had wanted to
meet her. She was so scared. I was trying to like, well.

Speaker 4 (17:26):
Yeah, exactly, what was the name of Jen Jenna, Jane Lynch,
Jane Lynch.

Speaker 2 (17:33):
If I'm drinking in your celebrity, I'm to come get you.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
But at the same time, even in LA there were
times where I was the last person standing at the party,
the latest person to stay. And I think at a
certain point, like this is not judgmental at all. This
was my own thing and I wanted to up level
my career, and I was like, the only way I
can do this is if.

Speaker 3 (17:52):
I just like take a break from drinking.

Speaker 1 (17:54):
Yeah, you know, like for me, because if I when
you're in your forties you have a couple of drinks,
I'm like out for four days?

Speaker 2 (18:02):
Why look at me? He's like, I'm in it for five.
But some people it doesn't affect, but it's true. And
then it gets to that point where there's too much
liquid courage. So for every good story that there is
a networking and having a few and having that magic moment,
there's probably ten stories of blacking out, losing your wallet
or saying something that you shouldn't right.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
Yeah yeah, or like embarrassing yourself or being like this
guy's too drunk to bring on a set. So like
it was more just like I quit drinking for a
long period of time, and now I'm at a point
where I'm like, like I just if I'm like vacationing,
I will have like a drink and it's fine.

Speaker 3 (18:40):
But when I'm like you have.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
Like one or two, yeah, you're done, I don't know
what that means. Yeah, what are you drinking right now?
I'm drinking this stuff? Where is it?

Speaker 1 (18:50):
It's called Ken and it's like it's called Ken Uphorix
and it's I don't have to like it's not like
an ad for Ken, but it's like it's for people
that so it has it has Rodeola five HDP gabba
and caffeine. So it's like has all these like natural
supplements to make you feel like you're part of the
party with be without being hungover. So don't do anything.

Speaker 3 (19:14):
Let's be honest. It doesn't do anything. No, it's it's good.
It tastes. It tastes kind of like a cocktail, like
try it, taste it, try it. See what you think.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
It's like the health guy, so.

Speaker 3 (19:26):
You do look very healthy to me. I'm spading here,
Well what do you think?

Speaker 2 (19:37):
He's very honest too.

Speaker 4 (19:38):
I mean like it's it's light, it's giving, like a
cactus kind of.

Speaker 3 (19:42):
Yeah, and you could actually put like alcohol in it probably.

Speaker 4 (19:46):
Like yeah, it's very light, like yeah, it is very earthy,
but it's.

Speaker 3 (19:52):
It doesn't it's not going to make you feel the
same as alcohol for sure.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
On the floor.

Speaker 3 (19:59):
It might kind of mellow you out too much where
you're like why am I too?

Speaker 4 (20:03):
Yeah, well it has caffeine in.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
It, well, like five HTP is something people take to
like chill out rodeo. Yeah, Like it's just it's like
it's like taking kava or like elfianine or one of
those like things you get at arawan.

Speaker 4 (20:16):
It's funny exuse, it's like basically all relaxers and then
like caffeine r.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
Something. You study the Meisner technique, Yes, what is it about?
Maybe for our audience that might not be familiar with
different acting techniques. What sets this technique apart? And what
why does it affect you?

Speaker 3 (20:35):
Are you an actor?

Speaker 1 (20:36):
I've studied out so cause so I like, like I said,
I went to school, I had a little I went
to college, had a little bit of training, and then
I moved to LA and I was doing like not
Leslie Khan. Leslie conn is one of the big acting teachers,
but she has this offshoot guy named John Rosenfeld.

Speaker 3 (20:53):
There's like a big split between them.

Speaker 1 (20:55):
Everyone has their own style of class, right, Like some
are like I'm to teach you how to be a star,
Like the Leslie con method is like really breaking down.

Speaker 3 (21:05):
The page, like there's three jokes on a page and
like this whole thing.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
And I tried all different of those types of things,
and then later on in life I found Meisner, which
is just about like showing up as you and the work,
you know, like showing up fully as.

Speaker 3 (21:21):
It was the first time that I was able to actually.

Speaker 1 (21:23):
Experience like what it was like to be an actor
and actually feel real emotions in the work. And I
just responded to that.

Speaker 3 (21:31):
There's like a repetition exercise that you do. Do you
know this? Do you want me to walk you through it?

Speaker 2 (21:36):
Out of every acting class, Well, it's literally all.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
That's asked of you is like to show up and
you basically just say how you're feeling in the moment,
and then you like you repeat it back and forth.
So you're like, you're like, I'm uncomfortable. That's what you
would say, and I would be like, you're uncomfortable, and
you just kind of go back and forth with the
way that we do it at my studio that I
go to is like you just the feeling you're in
until back and forth until it changes.

Speaker 3 (22:04):
Yes, And weirdly you find that.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
Even just standing here across from someone you you will
have real emotion just bubbling up at all times if
you can access it like.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
That, and it creates a bond with your scene partner totally. Yeah,
and in just like a word or two words.

Speaker 3 (22:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
And also just like the listening because what we actually
see in good acting from what I've learned, I mean,
you know, I'm in five minutes of a big movie.

Speaker 3 (22:27):
So I know, but like you.

Speaker 2 (22:29):
Joke about it, but five minutes and a big movie
is here, No, it is, and you have one of
the best scenes of the whole movie. Yeah, but I
really it was a really intense scene.

Speaker 3 (22:37):
Yeah, but I think it's just aboutarious. It's like that's
like just like realizing.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
That you actually do have emotion that you can pull from.
And I feel like for years I faked it and
I was more of like a performer type, and then
I was like, oh, I can actually access real parts
of myself.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
And I think that's why your TikTok skits do so well,
because they're presentational and they're funny, but there's a sincerity
and there's a reality to every one of your characters.
You and you also study that groundlings, I tell you
it's right like right there. I'm not to tell you
all my classes, all my singing lessons, all my dancing lessons.

(23:16):
The worst classes I ever had were improv Really, ever
since I was a little kid, I would cry when
I would have to go do the improv Ever, hate it?
Hate it?

Speaker 4 (23:27):
Did you not realize they like hosting a show is
basically your improvising like I'm not.

Speaker 2 (23:32):
Creating a character. I'm like responsive, like I'm a good
responsive person.

Speaker 3 (23:35):
Yeah, but that's improv too. You just get in your
head a lot probably.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
Yeah, yeah, yes and yes? And how has improv helped you?
Not for your acting but like in real life.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
I mean it's that thing of like it is the
yes end right of Like improv was all about yes,
and so if someone set you up with something you like,
you're supposed to add on to it. So I think
just like you know, I mean, I end up talking
to a lot of crazy people because I'm I'm always
like tell me more like I'm curious about hearing interesting stories.

(24:10):
But I don't know, I mean just connecting with.

Speaker 3 (24:13):
People like maybe yeah, how is how how about? How
has it affected you two?

Speaker 2 (24:20):
I mean it's more like listening. It's definitely it's listening.

Speaker 3 (24:24):
Like I think that listening is the most important skill
anyway you can have.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
You know, I love to talk, but to listen a
seconds and it shaves you see what happens.

Speaker 3 (24:32):
Yeah, it saves you a lot of like grief.

Speaker 1 (24:35):
When you just listen to somebody, because then you actually
hear what they're saying. You don't have to like him
in Hall Over stuff.

Speaker 3 (24:40):
Yeah all right.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
So from your career, I'm just gonna shout out a
show and then you're just gonna tell us what the
experience was. Like Days of Our Lives, Buck Darrow, you
did two episodes, Yes, what was the experience doing it?
Soap opera?

Speaker 1 (24:53):
It was incredible because I have this image, I have
this thought in my head of how I look like
I look a certain way, and I'm like, I'll never
be honest soap opera.

Speaker 3 (25:00):
That's like reserve for like our friend here, like he's
a soap opera.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
Guy because he's like super handsome and has like the hair,
like my hair is receding and like thinning. But that
was where I actually learned about topic, which is the
fake hair fibers that they put in your hair to
make your hair look full.

Speaker 3 (25:20):
So I did this soap opera.

Speaker 2 (25:22):
Had a spray, it was just well no, this was like.

Speaker 3 (25:25):
This this powder. So basically like I did this soap opera.
Her name's Deirdre. I can't remember her real name, but
she played like Days of Our Life.

Speaker 1 (25:34):
She's the one that was possessed Didra Hall so like,
so I have a Ddra Hall story. But first I'm
gonna tell you this story. She she like, I remember
I sat down on the hair makeup chair and they
took my hair and they blew it out and they
put all this like hair fiber in it, and my
hair looked so full and like whatever. And I was like, Oh,
all of Hollywood is fake, like everyone has fake hair.

Speaker 3 (25:57):
That's when I learned that they literally do.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:59):
Yeah, the different shows you go on where you're like
look over and you see like a wig and you're like, oh,
that's like so and So's wig that they wear. They're
not even wearing like their real hair. I did a
Wendy's commercial and like the girl that was Wendy has
a wig like so, but then so Dedra Hall was.
I just had the experience because I watched that show.

(26:21):
It was weird because when I was a kid, there
was an episode, like there was a whole season where
Deirdre Hall was possessed by a demon.

Speaker 5 (26:28):
Yes, and it was so popular they did it a
few years later, yes, and like kids like it wasn't
just me, Like kids would go home and watch this,
like everyone watched.

Speaker 1 (26:39):
This soap opera and so I was like, oh my god,
that's like her and like Stefano was there, so I
knew these characters.

Speaker 3 (26:47):
It's surreal.

Speaker 1 (26:48):
So it was surreal, and like there was a I
randomly parked on the lot because this is like in Burbank,
and I was like parked in her spot, and it
was like a thing that I had to go. She's like,
she's the Star Wars show. She has her own spot.
I just I was probably late, so I like pulled
in and I had to like stop in the middle
and like run off.

Speaker 3 (27:07):
They were like, you need to move your fucking car
right now.

Speaker 1 (27:10):
And it wasn't like hey, can you would you? They
were like you need to move it now. And I
like ran and moved my car and I was like,
I'm so sorry.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
She was like that's fine to your face. Deep.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
But anytime I do anything like that, I'm always aware
of like, oh, this is so cool that I'm apart
like that I watched this for years or you know,
like I'm not.

Speaker 3 (27:35):
I don't take any of that for granted. I'm like
happy about it.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
Well, we're going to talk about some other shows that
you've done, because you've been in very important franchises and yeah,
so I want to talk about with the successive weapons.
We've been seeing your name and a lot of headlines,
and then there's this word that they put in a
lot of the headlines and I'm like, huh, bisexual And
I have to say bisexual like that because you're from
Dallas by so we're gonna talk about it. Clayton Ferris

(28:02):
bisexual actor. First of all, the nosey gays they go
and we're like, oh, we got to see who he's dating,
and it's like, oh, he's dating a woman. He can't
be bisexual. Because the gays are so ridiculous. We think
if you're bisexual a man, to be bisexual means you're
dating a man, not a woman.

Speaker 3 (28:16):
Okay, yes, okay.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
So if I say I'm bisexual and I'm in a
relationship with a woman, then it's like you're not part
of the queer community. If I'm single and I say
I'm bisexual, they're like, oh, you're just faking. You're like,
you're you're actually just gay. You're not, but you don't
want title. You're not full Yeah, willing to say it.

(28:39):
And I mean, it's a complicated thing that I really
deal with and work with, Like it's something that's part
of my relationship.

Speaker 3 (28:47):
It's part of my life.

Speaker 1 (28:48):
It's like, you know, Andy, my publicist, and I have
been thinking like how should we like approach this in
this moment because it's like I'm playing this queer, iconic character.
I don't want to I want to celebrate that and
celebrate that part of me, but I also don't want
to act like I'm this like yes out guy.

Speaker 4 (29:08):
You know, but even when you're fully gay, it might
not be a yes out well exactly.

Speaker 2 (29:13):
There's a lot of the Kinzie skill.

Speaker 3 (29:15):
There's a lot of involved in, a lot of like whatever.

Speaker 2 (29:18):
And here's the funny thing. In Hollywood, when a celebrity
comes out as gay, we know exactly what to do
with them, give them a Glad Award, have them appear
at every pride from around the world. When a celebrity
comes out as bisexual and they don't fit what our
idea bisexual is, we don't know what to do with them.

Speaker 4 (29:32):
I think it was years of conditioning from actually gay people,
because you know, get you know.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
You'd say you were by first.

Speaker 4 (29:41):
There's like a setting stone that's a lot of gay
people use because there's a lot easier of a cushion
for family and friends to hear. But because of that,
it's created for actual bisexual people like, oh, we don't
exist and it's just everybody.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
How do you define bisexuality for yourself?

Speaker 1 (29:57):
I literally can only define it for myself because it's
my It's like my history has shown that I am
a bisexual person.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
It's I've i've.

Speaker 6 (30:07):
Canisexual and it really just comes to it like it's
it's complicated because it's like, you know, I've hooked up
with women, I've hooked up with men.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
I've I've been in relationships with both. It's not and
and there's a lot of confusion in this world about
that because it doesn't really make sense to me or
to other people. But so I can't, like, I can't
sit here and be like, I'm bisexual.

Speaker 3 (30:38):
I'm not one hundred percent down the middle. It's kind
of like.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
Didn't exists for anybody, and even a straight person there's
not one hundred percent right.

Speaker 4 (30:44):
And gay people are one hundred percent gay. There's some
gay people that identify as gay, but they still sleep
with women.

Speaker 3 (30:51):
Fresh I grew up in a.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
Place where me being a creativeotional type of kid meant
that I was gay and that I was differentes especially.

Speaker 2 (31:05):
If you're taking poetry and art class.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
Yeah, but even when I was like young, like when
I was in elementary school, like something about me rubbed
these these other boys the wrong way, and it was like,
I don't I still don't know what it was because
it was always just me being me, and it's to
this day. It's like even in like my kind of

(31:27):
like relationship with my female partner, I'm like, I still
have that part about me that's like me being myself,
like if I because I'm open with her about how
I feel and like like sometimes I'm like I really
feel by today and I want to like goodbye, like.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
Exactly exactly, Like I.

Speaker 1 (31:51):
Still I don't want to cut off a part of
myself and that so that comes up in a relationship too,
if you're being honest, and then I get triggered because
I'm like me being honest about who I am. Because
she's very supportive, but she's also like I have to
accept this part that you're going to go log into
grinder tomorrow or.

Speaker 4 (32:10):
Find it's more difficult being bisexual dating women knowing that
like that, that is an instance that they're probably really
insecure about it.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
Well, it's just because just because someone's bisexual doesn't mean
they should have freeway to go like you know, so
it's it's like.

Speaker 3 (32:29):
You really have to find someone.

Speaker 1 (32:31):
And I luckily I feel like for by guys. Like
a lot of women are like into like a guy
that's like into guys, but also like literally they're like, oh,
I think it's hot that you want to like make
out with a guy or something like that, because I
don't know, but it.

Speaker 2 (32:48):
Does have to be weird that a lot of these
headlines like bisexual. It's like, well, okay, but because but
we but like why is it our business?

Speaker 3 (32:55):
Because because why it's your business?

Speaker 2 (32:58):
Representation?

Speaker 1 (32:58):
Because if I'm not saying that, and what if someone
actually is looking at me playing this character and they're like, yeah,
it's representation, It's like it representation does matter, it's important,
But the casting process is still a business. They don't
ask you your sexuality before you audition for something, and
a lot of the lot of character actors like me
don't talk about themselves publicly because you want to be able.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
To get your social media or whatnot. You you wouldn't
know anything.

Speaker 3 (33:23):
You want to know anything.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
But also like yeah, either way, and also like the
rich couple.

Speaker 3 (33:29):
We do like this is the big social media, this
big like group this sorry just burned in the mic.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
God gob.

Speaker 3 (33:47):
No, it's it's like I literally forgot what I was saying.
I'm drunk.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
No, but it is important. But I just you know,
when when when I see sexuality like gay actor gay
after a bisexual actor, it's like, okay.

Speaker 4 (34:02):
Well yea, it doesn't look at like with within our community.
It's good to be outspoken because I mean even within
our community, they're trying to do the LGB without the T.
They're also trying to do it without the B as well,
so bisexuality is trying to be removed within our own community,
you know.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
So it's especially now like I see the validity, Like
right now we do have to take a space. Everything's
on person of our business.

Speaker 4 (34:23):
But you know, if you're you know, if you're able to,
then that's the privilege that you should be able to.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
But it's funny because we're fine with Colin Firth playing gay,
We're fine with Stanley Tucci playing gay. But then there's
another side of our querce, like straight people are taking
over our roles, but they're fine with Stanley Tucci and
Doublewaar's product.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
But I feel like Stanley Tucci has like by energy
right to.

Speaker 3 (34:47):
A lot of people.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
But we just accepted a lot of people compare me
or say like you're like a young Stanley Tucci.

Speaker 3 (34:52):
And the minute, and I'm like, that is the.

Speaker 2 (34:59):
Brother. Yeah, so let's talk about real quick.

Speaker 1 (35:05):
So I kind of was talking to Andy, my publicist,
and I was like, I was like, I'd like to
maybe take take a gain talk a little bit about
my sexuality in this kind of press I'm doing.

Speaker 3 (35:19):
And then I actually.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
Realized that that's going to backfire. And I've realized I
don't necessarily I'll talk about it and like with like here,
like casually and if it's a big conversation. But I've
already learned that even me on my level and what
I'm doing, they twist things well you know what.

Speaker 2 (35:35):
I mean from your agent manager.

Speaker 1 (35:38):
No, I've known, I've talked to them about it. I'm like,
you know, this is what I want to I want
to be open and do you.

Speaker 3 (35:46):
Think that's fine?

Speaker 1 (35:47):
Like do you And they're like, yeah, it doesn't matter
or you don't have to talk about it, it's up
to you. Unfortunately, when you put that out some people
start seeing you a certain way and can only envision
you a certain way, so I don't necessarily know that
it's helpful.

Speaker 2 (35:59):
And or like, we want to talk about your bisexuality,
but don't mention it, but talk about it. Yeah, but
there's all these conditions, Okay, so let's let's weave this
into weapons. Queer presence in horror films has been evolving
for the last five years. I would say Bluemhouse has
really been a four uh, a trailblazer in terms of
putting queer characters, queer themes in horror. And so we

(36:20):
know that horror, queer sensibility and queer characters have always
been part of horror, just not so out there. It
was very, very subtle. But these themes, I mean, hell
of Dracula with his fancy capes and he's like, wooh,
that's weapons. So you do you even have to audition
for weapons?

Speaker 3 (36:37):
No? I didn't, And out of this role, I pretty
like I'm still not.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
One hundred percent sure how the role came to me,
but it was essentially an offer from the director, and
I thought that maybe because he's a comedy guy, I
thought that maybe he knew my videos or something like that.
But then once I met him and started working with him,
like that was not really the case. And so basically
I was just it was like a cast casting Alison Jones,

(37:02):
who casts like all the cool stuff.

Speaker 3 (37:04):
Found me or knew about me and recommended me.

Speaker 1 (37:07):
And so the interesting thing about that is like if
someone knows me from my TikTok and they're recommending me
for this specific role, they're obviously thinking about me a
certain way, you know.

Speaker 3 (37:16):
So yeah, I didn't audition though, which is so.

Speaker 2 (37:19):
Weird because Hollywood has such a love hate relationship with influencers,
right people are getting mad because TikTokers are getting TV deals,
Benny whatever his face Amazonma, it's all about followers not yeah, yeah,
but that's interesting.

Speaker 3 (37:32):
It is interesting.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
But also like Benny Drama and Brian Jordan Alvarez happened
to make two of the best shows that came out
last year.

Speaker 2 (37:42):
Anyway, So but you're thinking it is like you are
a good actor on.

Speaker 3 (37:47):
Top I think I have been. I started on Vine.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
I've seen all these people go through their stuff, all
the big influencers.

Speaker 3 (37:53):
I was there when it all started.

Speaker 1 (37:56):
A reason a lot of them didn't cross over or
haven't crossed over into mainstream.

Speaker 3 (38:00):
Two reasons. One, they don't want to work twelve hours
a day.

Speaker 1 (38:03):
They don't want to make five thousand dollars ten thousand
dollars a week.

Speaker 3 (38:06):
They want to make that a day.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
That's the struggle. You've filmed one thirty second thing.

Speaker 1 (38:10):
And then yeah, exactly, so like when you're on a movie,
you're you know, you're working twelve hours normally, that's a
normal that's like a short day.

Speaker 3 (38:19):
And then they're not ready when they get the opportunities.

Speaker 1 (38:21):
So like they go into these big auditions, they get
the auditions.

Speaker 3 (38:25):
And then they can't deliver because they're not trained or whatever,
you know.

Speaker 2 (38:29):
And they can't act.

Speaker 3 (38:30):
And that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (38:31):
They can't.

Speaker 1 (38:32):
They can't act, and maybe some of them can, but
I mean, I think if an influencer is a good actor,
they it would should be easy for them.

Speaker 4 (38:41):
Now would have been part of the reason why they're influencing,
you know, because it's part of their like ability.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
Yeah, that the people got it. We've had some implomats
in the show. We're just like hello, That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (38:51):
They were They weren't influencing because they were a good actor.
They were influencing because they were because.

Speaker 3 (38:55):
They're good looking, or they're like, yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:57):
What was your action when you read the script?

Speaker 1 (39:00):
I mean, well, so I was a fan of Barbarian,
like I was a fan of Zach Kreiger and his movies.

Speaker 3 (39:06):
I love horror movies.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
It's a very different film, though. It's a very I
mean yeah like it.

Speaker 1 (39:13):
It's a I think it's a smart, cool, beautifully written,
fresh and it's funny and it's it's so many things.

Speaker 2 (39:21):
Did you read the comedy in it the minute that
you read it or did that take time.

Speaker 3 (39:24):
To that kind of took time to seep in?

Speaker 1 (39:27):
And I mean you admit, like you you see the
script and you're like, you see this thing of like, uh,
Gladys is in the forest like a rose blooming from
da da dun.

Speaker 3 (39:36):
You're like, you're just like, I don't understand.

Speaker 1 (39:39):
And then you see it and you're like, oh, he
did it, like he made it work. But you know,
from my scene, I saw that there was a comedy
available there, and I saw, you know, I saw like
you know, peeking around the door, like little moments of
like that you can try to like add in a
little flavor and.

Speaker 2 (39:59):
The audience is the audience needed that.

Speaker 3 (40:01):
Yeah, at that moment.

Speaker 2 (40:02):
You heard in the theater the first few funny moments.
I think it was Josh Brolin. He's like what the fuck?
We all were feeling that, and then the audience didn't know,
like can I laugh? And I was like, okay, Yeah,
I think that was like as.

Speaker 4 (40:14):
A sort of like a matter of fact moments where like,
you know, you're having like a horror movie where the
characters are actually reacting to it's happening in a very
realistic way, where like that's what I would have said
totally in that moment, and you're just like, that's why
you're laughing because you're just the only thing your head,
what the fuck?

Speaker 3 (40:28):
Because that's not really a funny moment per se.

Speaker 1 (40:31):
He's just responding how he would and that's why it's
so funny. Yeah, like and like being like what the
fuck was that said?

Speaker 2 (40:41):
Yeah, because I was like, what the watching? So let's
talk about representation. We're gonna get a little a little
gritty here. I've heard both sides. In fact, I addressed
it on my series on Barrel TV about queer representation.
So here's just the facts the first time we see

(41:02):
you and your husband in the scene, you guys are
grocery shopping and you're holding up two boxes and they're
both fruity pop Yes, like okay, we gontat fruity pebbles,
like they can have cheerios, but like it's freddy Peel's
like honey, which one? And it's like it's very funny.

Speaker 3 (41:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (41:18):
And then the second time we see you, you guys are
sitting down to watch watch a documentary and then I
think we have a picture. There's seven hot dogs on
this tray. There's yea counted the second I was like
seven hot dogs. Cut to the picture. Yeah, but there's
there's cookies, there's chips, and there's carrots, and like the

(41:40):
whole bit seven hot dogs. I mean, that's not why
would you have like four and and and four.

Speaker 3 (41:48):
So you split the last one.

Speaker 1 (41:50):
There's so there's a couple things, okay, which.

Speaker 2 (41:56):
And then you guys are very cute because you're at home.
Very the the chemistry is there in the first second, Beniculang,
it's great, you're great, but you're wearing matching Mickey and
Mini T shirts. So for some of the queer community,
they're like that is so stereotypical that they're grocery shopping
and there's fruity pebbles, and then they're wearing matching Disney
shirts at home, and then it's very min and Mickey.

(42:19):
And then the scene where you're at like when she
cuts your hair, you're like, ah, that's like he's more
concerned about his hair than like, hello, you're gonna die.
So there's that side of it that, oh, that's just
so stereotypical, and that like went overboard, like nobody wears
matching Disney shirts even though we true that's not true. Yeah,
and then the hot dogs, it's like, okay, we eat wieners, Like, okay,
we get it.

Speaker 3 (42:38):
I didn't do that.

Speaker 2 (42:40):
And so there's a whole faction on social media that
is like this is very stereotypical, and yes, we want
representation in queer films, but this is not. This is
way over the top. Yeah, and you were part of
that creative process. You are queer, So tell us how
you structured that character and what you say to people
for that. Oh and here's a Also another comment was

(43:01):
that it was such a funny scene. It's like, oh,
the gays are the butt of the joke and then
the first months to die in the right we know
horror films, the queer, the black people and people of
color first ones to go yes, I mean okay, so
address all of so. I mean, I take a stiff
of your mushroom, like literally, like I need the mushroom.
G Yeah, he needs relaxes and so literally.

Speaker 3 (43:23):
I'm like, I'm about to get buyas fu.

Speaker 7 (43:25):
You no, so so like I am one hundred percent
certain that there was nothing intentional like that through any
of these I.

Speaker 3 (43:38):
Can talk about the grocery store scene.

Speaker 1 (43:40):
We were in a grocery store on it on a
on an aisle of of food. I was the one
picking up stuff. Truthfully, that wasn't pre planned. That was
not pre planned. It was me picking up stuff. It
was going down the aisle.

Speaker 2 (43:53):
I think it's funny it's fruity pebbles or fruity pebbles.

Speaker 1 (43:55):
I have not even thinking it, thought about that until
this moment that that would even be.

Speaker 3 (44:00):
I did not. I know, that never crossed my mind.

Speaker 1 (44:02):
And now that you say it, I'm like, that's obvious
that I'm like, fruity.

Speaker 2 (44:06):
Pebbles are fruity pebbles.

Speaker 3 (44:08):
Literally, I ate fruity pebbles.

Speaker 1 (44:10):
When I was a kid, I'm grabbing the fruity pebbles.

Speaker 8 (44:13):
No, but I don't think of that, Like I like,
but here's were so ready to pounce totally, But I
just it's a projection.

Speaker 3 (44:24):
It's projection.

Speaker 1 (44:25):
But also like, what would this queer couple in this
small town be, like, like this is to me what
they I don't think it's a bad representation, just like.

Speaker 2 (44:38):
We know couples like this. We do know couples like this.
I have said your chemistry was sincere. There was nothing
absolutely you believed right away. You could see the whole backstory.
You knew that they probably went to the flea market
on Sunday totally.

Speaker 1 (44:51):
And Benedict Wong is not like openly queer, but he
definitely we were having we were flirting, we were together
in the scene like it wasn't and there was never
a point where we were making fun of anything or
thought about that stuff. I heard you even say that
like I turned around like being sassy. I like literally
I was just like I know, and it's like I don't.

(45:14):
I'm not gonna say that. I wasn't like I don't
think I was like playing it up m J.

Speaker 2 (45:18):
Bullock.

Speaker 1 (45:19):
No, but I was like Lee, I was that he's terry,
like Benedict Wong is definitely like the daddy type we
know who.

Speaker 2 (45:25):
Was on what.

Speaker 1 (45:30):
Like, I felt like I was having fun leaning into
like this side of the character and like we there
was never direction that was like can you can you
like gay it up or anything like that fresh.

Speaker 2 (45:44):
And you didn't think it was weird that they had
seven hot talks on that train.

Speaker 1 (45:46):
So that also has that also has a reference to
it that you don't know about.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
I have heard, so can you tell.

Speaker 3 (45:54):
So?

Speaker 1 (45:56):
So if you don't know about this movie, it was
written by Zach Kreiger who directed it, and the whole
movie is about the grief of.

Speaker 3 (46:03):
Him losing one of his friends.

Speaker 1 (46:05):
So all the different chapters and characters kind of represent
a different experience that he had with grief, like drinking
too much, eating whatever it was. They were both in
a comedy troup called The Whitest Kids.

Speaker 3 (46:19):
You know.

Speaker 1 (46:19):
One of their main videos was had this reference to
seven hot dogs. So what actually just happened in that
moment in my opinion was maybe they're.

Speaker 3 (46:28):
Eating hot dogs. I don't I wasn't part of this
seven two three conversation.

Speaker 1 (46:33):
But what I think happens in those moments is the
director will be like, if it wasn't fully planned.

Speaker 3 (46:38):
Before, they're gonna be like, how many hot dogs you want?

Speaker 1 (46:41):
And his reference is probably like seven because it's like
from this thing that we had, So then it's seven
hot dogs.

Speaker 3 (46:48):
It probably doesn't have that much meaning to it. And
then it just.

Speaker 1 (46:53):
Gets more like blown up. I've heard people say that
why are they did hot dogs? Gay guys like hot dogs?

Speaker 3 (46:59):
Whatever? Gay guys like we.

Speaker 2 (47:00):
I mean, I've never heard of you. You know that
that's one of the things that's gone viral. So that's
so funny. I feel like we get it. I didn't.

Speaker 4 (47:07):
I didn't think that at all. I just thought I
was like, I was like seven. I was like, that's
just rude because of you.

Speaker 1 (47:12):
As the reality is these you know, get a lot
of gig guys in West Hollywood don't eat bread, like
it's not the thing.

Speaker 2 (47:19):
I've known gig couples that secret eat away from each other.
So at the dinner table they have the whole little
like they would have one sounds super healthy, and then
they're in the kitchen later. And I've been eight dynamics.

Speaker 3 (47:31):
So I don't like I I have seen those comments too.

Speaker 1 (47:34):
I'm in like a weapons reddit, Like I go on
there and read this stuff and it's and there is
a lot of hearsay, and I just I'm glad that
I can be like that's not true. Like no one
like Zach wanted to have icon't we like these are
iconic queer characters. People are gonna dress like them for Halloween,
and like there's.

Speaker 2 (47:52):
Like this is going to be a big like Halloween.

Speaker 3 (47:55):
We're see, Yeah, there's gonna be Gladys and I'm heavy.
I'm hoping.

Speaker 2 (48:00):
I am Gladys dress. So let's talk about this thing.

Speaker 1 (48:05):
I hope that that like kind of helps dispill any
of those myths one hundred percent.

Speaker 2 (48:10):
And we're gonna definitely clip this and get it out there.
There are people out there that believe that the story
is real. Though. Thanks, sorry, sorry room, we need to
bless Wow. I'm sorry, I just had myself.

Speaker 1 (48:25):
Are you out of There's more in that bag over
there if you need a mixer, Yeah, don't.

Speaker 2 (48:31):
Worry about it. So let's talk about this scene. It
is the turning point of the whole film. It's when
the film is like, Okay, now we're gonna explain what's happening.

Speaker 4 (48:38):
Now we're gonna It also has this.

Speaker 2 (48:42):
Level of comedy too. When Amy Madigan came in as
Gladys and you saw her for the first time, what
was your response, I mean the.

Speaker 1 (48:52):
Makeup, Like, my response was like, oh my god, this
is so bold and insane, and I.

Speaker 3 (49:00):
Was like, I think she's gonna win an oscar I.

Speaker 2 (49:03):
I really do horror films were I think that we're
getting there. I feel like I think.

Speaker 1 (49:08):
We're getting closer to horror films being appreciated because they're
not being able to be denied. We're getting a golden
globe maybe maybe a globe maybe Okay, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (49:18):
I don't know why I have a.

Speaker 2 (49:19):
Feeling why is there such like a because I'm like, oh,
sci fi and horror films they're just but guess Marvel
Its better acting for that though, because it's such.

Speaker 1 (49:29):
Is a well acted, beautifully shot it has everything that
like a great movie should have.

Speaker 2 (49:35):
I don't know what deal with grief isolation.

Speaker 1 (49:37):
Yes, so much, it's all there, But I mean I
was just like, oh, I'm watching this iconic actor work
like I mean, I'm still very much at a place
in my career where I'm acting opposite these insane like
titans or like, you know, she's been around forever.

Speaker 3 (49:54):
She's she's an iconic.

Speaker 2 (49:56):
Real people don't realize that too. There's no overnight, no
and Amy Madigan has been in and she's you know, she's.

Speaker 1 (50:03):
One of those actors that was very famous for a
while and then kind of like kind of what happens
not as much and this is like a resurgence for her.
But she's a true She's married to Ed Harris.

Speaker 2 (50:15):
A lot of people know that.

Speaker 3 (50:16):
When we did the.

Speaker 1 (50:17):
Table read, it was we were all on zoom everyone
because everyone was spread out.

Speaker 3 (50:21):
They had me, they invited. I was part of the
table read.

Speaker 1 (50:24):
And she's sitting there reading her stuff and Ed Harris
comes in behind her and sits a dog on her
lap kind of.

Speaker 3 (50:31):
Like take the dog, like what? And I was like,
is that Ed Harris?

Speaker 1 (50:38):
So it's that thing of kind of being like, oh,
I can't believe I'm getting to act across and been
a dipped Wong. You know, I've seen him in all
these Marvel movies and like all this. It's like it's
I'm still at a point where like, oh I can't
believe I'm here with these people. Let me just take
it in. Let me learn how they act and what
they do. And what they do is show up knowing
what they're going to do and then play and have

(50:59):
fun at the day. They take it very seriously.

Speaker 3 (51:00):
They're professionals.

Speaker 2 (51:02):
How many days did it take to film the kitchen scene,
because we go from like hello, the comedy moments where
I kind of have a bowl and we're like laughing,
and then it gets real tragic.

Speaker 3 (51:13):
The kitchen scene was two days.

Speaker 1 (51:15):
I believe, yeah, and then the the my scene in
the grocery store was seven days.

Speaker 3 (51:21):
So I'm kidding one day.

Speaker 2 (51:23):
Could you imagine?

Speaker 1 (51:27):
Yeah, it was two days, but it was, you know,
it was. I mean it like there was so much
that went into it before where I had to get
like they used to like scan They used to put
like the paper mache thing on your head to make
cast of your heads, and this time they like scan
my head.

Speaker 3 (51:44):
So these heads that they looked exactly like be the ones.
I think it was creepy. I'll show you a video
of like all of them.

Speaker 2 (51:50):
I keep one.

Speaker 1 (51:52):
I wanted to keep one because they made them like
staggering like.

Speaker 2 (51:55):
Words but in the past you would have to sit
in a plaster.

Speaker 3 (51:58):
I've done that and it's horrible. They have a little
straw you breathe, they cover your whole face.

Speaker 2 (52:03):
It's horrible. What was that like for you? Like, like watching.

Speaker 3 (52:06):
That, it was kind of it's brutal.

Speaker 2 (52:10):
Yeah, the audience that was laughing in the next second,
they don't know what to feel because you see the
husband attacking the husband.

Speaker 4 (52:21):
It's it's a very core memory for the film because
it's like it's very it's very impactful.

Speaker 1 (52:27):
But that was the thing when I met with Zach
he his thing was like, hey, just so you know,
this is going to be like a pretty intense like
He's like, I'm going to push the envelope with this
death scene.

Speaker 3 (52:39):
Are you are you comfortable with that? And I was like, hell, yeah,
I love that.

Speaker 1 (52:42):
Like but then like you know, your parents watch it
or my siblings watch it, and they're like, oh, like
it's hard to watch.

Speaker 3 (52:49):
And it's hard because in that short time, people kind
of like my character Terry, they.

Speaker 2 (52:54):
Want to hang out.

Speaker 4 (52:55):
And then yeah, yeah, unfortunately it's like I think a cousin.

Speaker 3 (53:02):
Someone has to die. People have to die in horror movies.

Speaker 2 (53:07):
Well, and that's the comment. It's like, well, I guess
that's kill the case because we laughed at them the
whole time.

Speaker 3 (53:12):
But like, I mean, I.

Speaker 2 (53:14):
Feel like if it was done well in that in
that situation.

Speaker 1 (53:17):
Though, I think if you're looking for something you can't
find it, you can find it.

Speaker 2 (53:20):
But so Clinton, why is Aunt Gladys becoming this queer icon?
Why is the queer community latching onto this character? The
character is evil, she's camp. She's camp. Love the camp.
That's what I mean. That's that's all I can say.
It's so real though, you know, Camp to me is
like like divine, Like you don't see these there's layers.

(53:44):
It's Gladice I could see walking down the street.

Speaker 1 (53:46):
I think that people connect to her because you're like,
whenever you see a character like that, that kind of
is getting there.

Speaker 3 (53:53):
You know, like she's doing what she has to do
to survive. And I think a lot of queer people
relate to that.

Speaker 2 (53:58):
Amen, and don't we feel bad for her? Almost even
Alex the little kid, he feels bad for her something.

Speaker 4 (54:05):
And I feel like it was like, I don't know,
this might be like a spoiler if you want to,
like yeah, but like I feel like it's insinuated that
she had wanted the children in order to make herself
young again.

Speaker 2 (54:14):
So it was kind of like a hocus pocus. Yeah,
like it's.

Speaker 4 (54:18):
She they're calling her, you know, they're calling what's her name,
Julia Gardner the witch and and but the real witch
is the one like trying to get the children.

Speaker 2 (54:28):
Yeah, it is about survival. It's about isolation and the
fact that she's an ugly woman inside and out, but
she's trying to beautify herself with the wig and the makeup.

Speaker 1 (54:36):
Yeah, and you can people, people are real. People are
putting so much on this movie. I mean, you could
put a story that like she's being discarded because she's
old and she's trying to find you know, like there's
many things you can do to but like, I think
it's that thing that that people see her doing what
she has to do to survive or whatever, and I

(54:56):
think that people relate to that in a way.

Speaker 3 (54:58):
And she looks so right, but she's so funny. She's
like like.

Speaker 2 (55:06):
My grandma every time she step out of the house
would look like that, and that everything the way that
she a lot clinton weapons is not just doing well
as a horror film. It's doing well as a film.
It's been at the top of the box office for
how long? Why are audiences responding to this week?

Speaker 3 (55:28):
It's like the fourth week and numbers.

Speaker 2 (55:29):
Were saying yeah, and we've had big movies come and go.
We're like, oh, yeah, that came out. Why are audiences
and it's not just horror audiences. Why are audiences responding
to this film?

Speaker 1 (55:40):
I mean what I respond to it as a fan
of the film is just I mean, the filmmaking. It's
just like, I just feel like we're going to see
a movie come out, the next big movie that comes out,
and you're gonna kind of get like this feeling of like,
oh but weapons did.

Speaker 3 (55:55):
All of this sort of stuff.

Speaker 1 (55:57):
It's surprising it doesn't treat the audience like their slow Yes.

Speaker 2 (56:04):
You know it made you think and you're like, it's cool.

Speaker 1 (56:06):
Like Zach Kreger has taste. It has cool taste. Like
what Gladys is wearing, the way she styled and the
way she looks is so interesting and tasteful and cool.
He just he's like he's like finger on the pulse.
These these queer characters with their Mickey shirt.

Speaker 3 (56:22):
It's just like.

Speaker 1 (56:23):
That's interesting, Like he makes interesting choices and it's not boring,
and we're so used to being fed boring stuff at
the movies and this is They took a chance on
this and it paid off.

Speaker 3 (56:34):
They moved the movie from a January.

Speaker 1 (56:36):
Release to a summer release because it tested so well
and people smart loved.

Speaker 2 (56:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (56:43):
I don't know if you feel like I feel like Horror
is the one that's sort of leading the leading the creativity.
I mean, what's the next one that's about the point.

Speaker 2 (56:51):
Of view from the dog? Oh? Yeah, yeah, you know, just.

Speaker 4 (56:57):
Unique perspectives or just unique takes and just like I think,
I think it's probably really entertaining as an actor, as
an entertainer, and then like you know, director stuff, being
able to work in this environment that's a little bit
more obscure than being your typical Marvel movie where you're
in front of a green screen and not knowing what
you're doing.

Speaker 3 (57:13):
Yeah, And I.

Speaker 1 (57:14):
Think it's like something about like you were saying, how
the trailer the trailers were so the marketing campaign was
so like what is this?

Speaker 3 (57:21):
What's going on here? It got people And I.

Speaker 4 (57:23):
Love that That's really what I think got people really
interested with the marketing.

Speaker 2 (57:28):
It's like, well, I have to go see it because
I don't know what, but I have to.

Speaker 1 (57:31):
Yeah, And it's and it actually is fun to see
it with with other people because of like the reaction people.

Speaker 2 (57:36):
Like I've had some times, Oh, I love watching horror
from home. I'm like, no, you have to go see
it in the theater because it's also the energy from
the audience. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (57:44):
Right, But they're actually using the market you know, marketing
is what the cost of the movie. And then you
just like have all these other films that just basically
give you in the trailer, like you said, like the
entire movie, Whereas why don't you use that marketing budget
to create what you guys did interests in the movie?

Speaker 2 (58:01):
So Clinton, they just released box office numbers as to
what the budget of weapons was. Huh so, how much
you guys all got paid. It's a two hundred million
dollar profit already. Wow, and that's before it goes on
streaming everything. Yeah, I get im. I should have definitely
taken that last time.

Speaker 3 (58:21):
I'm a small part of this movie. I don't know,
why do you keep saying that.

Speaker 2 (58:24):
I just I don't I feel it's literally like one
of the end. I just I don't know.

Speaker 3 (58:30):
I feel it's hard for me to accept that I'm
like part.

Speaker 4 (58:32):
Of syndrome they get over, get over.

Speaker 1 (58:37):
But I will say what I am curious about and
what I know other actors can relate to.

Speaker 3 (58:42):
I have a friend that's in light Lilo and Stitch.

Speaker 1 (58:45):
Like you know, and like we're we're actors on the
come up. Yeah, and it's like, you know, like we
still work in a town like that, we we still
get residuals is like the way that we survive.

Speaker 3 (58:55):
And like I'm like, you've been on.

Speaker 2 (58:57):
Like Gray's Anatomy, Like you've been like.

Speaker 1 (58:58):
Certain shows like I was on Seal Team three episodes
of Seal Team, and like I.

Speaker 2 (59:04):
Don't have any questions about Sale Team and you.

Speaker 1 (59:06):
Shouldn't, but that show has paid more money than anything ever.

Speaker 2 (59:11):
Like if you were a guest on Jag Yeah, like
who doesn't know, but it was around for forty thousand years. Okay,
So along that line, I'm gonna shot out.

Speaker 1 (59:19):
So I'm curious how much if I will get paid
more residuals because of how well it's done.

Speaker 3 (59:24):
I'm just curious.

Speaker 2 (59:24):
Well, I hope your hat. Okay, I'm gonna shoot another show,
The Morning Show, is starring Jennifer Aniston and Reese Witherspoon.

Speaker 3 (59:30):
This one's embarrassing.

Speaker 2 (59:32):
What is the atmosphere like on set? Because we've heard
so many different things and I know you can't.

Speaker 1 (59:36):
So so I will just be completely honest. My role
got cut from that, so I'm not Actually I still
get residuals because they did not scrap me.

Speaker 2 (59:44):
You were supposed to be a segment.

Speaker 3 (59:46):
I was supposed to be like one of the producers
and potentially like come back.

Speaker 2 (59:49):
And be in multiple I went to U. Yeah, I
was like, did I pretty much mushroom?

Speaker 1 (59:55):
But I mean that was one of those things where
show that was It was early on too, so the
show was just happening and everyone's like, you're gonna be
recurring and all this stuff. But I mean it's again
one of those shows where it's like Jennifer Aniston, Reese
Witherspoon of the stars. There's a certain energy that comes
on set when Jennifer Anderson walks on set, no matter
what's going on, people are like like, like, the energy shifts.

Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
Isn't that crazy to know that and appreciate her body
of work and then to watch a rerun of Friends.
Reruns of Friends, they don't do well. When you rewatch it,
you're like, oh.

Speaker 3 (01:00:29):
I haven't watched it away, I really watched Friends, actually.

Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
Watch an episode, but she literally.

Speaker 1 (01:00:34):
Came on set with the smart water and a straw
and she's like the spokesparts smarts.

Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
So for our audience that are actors, can you talk
about like filming and being part of this show and
then having a cut and that's a part of.

Speaker 3 (01:00:47):
The job, right, Yeah, I mean I had to.

Speaker 1 (01:00:50):
Be devastating, Yeah, because you book it, Like just to
book a role is so exciting, and you still get
the field I did.

Speaker 3 (01:00:56):
I had to audition, I got booked, I got paid.
But but it's it's like if it's a.

Speaker 1 (01:01:03):
Small role, it's not as devastating. You're kind of just like, well,
there goes another one. If it's a big role, that
that would be way more intense.

Speaker 3 (01:01:12):
But it also happened.

Speaker 1 (01:01:13):
I was on This is Us, which maybe you're gonna
ask me about I that's another thing where kind of
what I did on the show got twisted around and
they only kept one thing where I'm like walking behind
someone and I like say my line and someone from
like high schools, Like I saw you were in an
extra and this is us, and I was like.

Speaker 3 (01:01:30):
I was not an extra.

Speaker 2 (01:01:31):
Check my eye on DVD.

Speaker 3 (01:01:33):
Right, yeah, it was a principal performer.

Speaker 1 (01:01:35):
But also like you still you know, you still get
residuals for those things too, but still hurt.

Speaker 3 (01:01:41):
It does hurt. I mean, this is a brutal, brutal industry.

Speaker 1 (01:01:44):
And you know what I'm learning is the more opportunity
you get and the more parts you get, the more
bigger auditions you get, the more disappointed it is.

Speaker 2 (01:01:54):
Isn't that crazy?

Speaker 3 (01:01:55):
Yeah? It is crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:01:57):
It was fresh. I love in all your interviews about
this film, you've been so gracious. You've been gracious to
people interviewing you because you've had some good interviews. You've
had some interview like hello, Okay, we're gonna talk about
your relationship with Ryan Murphy.

Speaker 3 (01:02:15):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
You have been in Scream Queens, Ratch, Ratchet and then
American Horror Story Opposite Lady Gaga is did she make
you more bisexual? Bisexual? Yes?

Speaker 3 (01:02:28):
I would say, how do you film the scene with
Lady gog?

Speaker 1 (01:02:31):
Well? The story, my story about that was, you know,
when you're on a when you're on a set and
you're an actor, Like if you're a guest actor on
a set, you're they put your chair by the stars
of the show, so like they don't separate you.

Speaker 3 (01:02:42):
Like it's like Lady Gaga, Finn Ritrock and like.

Speaker 1 (01:02:45):
My chair, and so there's parts of the day where
you're like gonna go to your chair and you're bisexual.

Speaker 2 (01:02:50):
You're like, who wanted to flirt with first? Exactly sin Finn.

Speaker 1 (01:02:54):
Finn's very good looking, Lady Gaga smears, smells very well,
it's very good. She sorry my my uh elthi Enian's
kicking in.

Speaker 2 (01:03:03):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:03):
This is when the show she she's so I'm like,
I'm I literally was like I cannot sit in a
chair next to Lady Gaga and just be like.

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
So who's yeah. So I literally just like.

Speaker 3 (01:03:17):
Went and like hung out with like the extras or whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:03:19):
You didn't sit next I mean I did for a
little bit, but I I was just kind of like this.

Speaker 2 (01:03:22):
It was she's a huge star.

Speaker 1 (01:03:24):
It was a big it was like a big, big thing,
and she was very friendly.

Speaker 3 (01:03:28):
We did shit chat.

Speaker 1 (01:03:29):
But I just found that I didn't really have I
don't want to be up in someone's business like that,
So I I kind of like walked around the set
and did other things without trying to be like too
attached to her.

Speaker 2 (01:03:40):
Do you think that's why people in Hollywood like like
to hire you, because like you know how to act
on the set.

Speaker 3 (01:03:45):
And I think that that's part of part of it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:47):
So I loves you.

Speaker 3 (01:03:49):
Yeah, I mean I've done I've done multiple Ryan Murphy shows.

Speaker 1 (01:03:53):
I just I just they're doing like The Monster, which
I'm like could potentially be doing right now.

Speaker 3 (01:03:58):
But I think that that's part of it too.

Speaker 1 (01:04:00):
Like you have to like they talk like casting directors talk,
producers talk about certain actors, and you can't be annoying.

Speaker 3 (01:04:08):
And when you do these shows, you have to be
like a professional.

Speaker 2 (01:04:12):
Yeah, and you know that when Clayton shows up, he's
going to do the job. I mean, if you want
to add some comedy, great, he can do that. You
want to add some improv, he can do that too.

Speaker 3 (01:04:18):
Me.

Speaker 1 (01:04:18):
Yeah, I think I'm getting better at kind of bringing
something to it more than I used to. Like I'm
like trying to add trying to you know, like elevate
my roles and my scenes. But that takes time too,
because you when you first go You're you're kind of
so overwhelmed by the process and all the people and
like the celebrities, and like you know, they're treating certain

(01:04:39):
people better than they're treating other people. It's there's a
hierarchy on set. It's like unfortunate, but it's just part
of what it is. And especially these long running shows,
like there's like a there's a whole thing going on,
like a whole system, and you just have to pop
in and pop out. And you can't pop in and
make like a fuss. You have to just pop in,
get in the wheel, and like get out.

Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
Can I ask you a hot topic? Yes, Ryan Murphy question, Okay,
there's the new Ryan Murphy show coming out right. No,
it's about female lawyers, Okay, Glenn.

Speaker 4 (01:05:10):
Closejami Watts, Kim Kardashian, Kathy Bates.

Speaker 2 (01:05:15):
Guess who got top villain? Kim kardash Kim over Glenn Cloak.

Speaker 4 (01:05:20):
That's because I don't know, I feel like she's not
Bessie's with Ryan Murphy or something.

Speaker 2 (01:05:24):
Isn't that insane?

Speaker 1 (01:05:26):
Yeah, I mean I would feel like it's probably about cloud,
you know, like who has the most cloud in the moment.

Speaker 2 (01:05:31):
Then we go with that influence.

Speaker 4 (01:05:33):
Do you think the Kardashians as popular anymore as these.

Speaker 2 (01:05:36):
No, they're not their shows on Hulu. But let me
ask you, as an influencer, as an actor, how do
you deal with that dichotomy. It's like, Okay, my TikTok
audience wants me to do more content. Maybe they don't
even give a shit about what I'm filming, and then
we know, like you said, the income disparity.

Speaker 1 (01:05:52):
Is yeah, I mean that's the that's the weird thing
that like for me, like at this moment in my life,
like acting is my passion the internet and is my job, but.

Speaker 2 (01:06:02):
We know our passion doesn't always paradise.

Speaker 3 (01:06:04):
Well that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:06:05):
It's like I make more money doing uh the social
media stuff than I do being an actor. So I mean,
I don't know, Like you you have a hit thing
like the rich Couple that I have on TikTok and Instagram,
and then people start demanding that from you, like as
your thing. Like I've always been someone that posts all
types of stuff across the board characters, and now anything

(01:06:26):
I post there's comments that are like that are like
referencing the.

Speaker 3 (01:06:29):
Rich couple or like when are you gonna do the
Rich Couple? And I'm like, the last video was the
Rich Couple, Like.

Speaker 2 (01:06:35):
But you experienced this too, Like you'll post like a
shirtless whatever and it's like all this and then he
posts like playing the piano, which is so beautiful and yeah,
and it's like, well it's my it's.

Speaker 4 (01:06:47):
Just but also just because the algorithm in general only
exposes you as much as the attention.

Speaker 1 (01:06:52):
Right, and and whatever you whatever you blow up with
is what the algorithm wants, right.

Speaker 4 (01:06:57):
So I always got blown up, like the modeling stuff
I was doing, So when i'd post, you know, piano stuff,
it'd be just like.

Speaker 3 (01:07:04):
Why did I just play the piano shirtless?

Speaker 2 (01:07:06):
I do?

Speaker 4 (01:07:07):
But it so doesn't they they the Instagram, but it's
secually the LGBT community and I mean, my my pof
I got deleted last year.

Speaker 2 (01:07:14):
It's had to make a new one. Did Yeah, yeah,
it was this AI.

Speaker 4 (01:07:18):
It was just because the AI system, like you try
to like fight it, and it's like the AI because
they fired so many people that the AI system that
deletes it is the one that reviews your protests. So
it's like, no, I'm going to stick to what I
said because I'm the smartest.

Speaker 3 (01:07:33):
Was it because we were posting like shirtless photos or something?

Speaker 4 (01:07:35):
It was, Yeah, it was like it's like scandalss stuff.
But isn't anything more than I had been posting for
the last ten years.

Speaker 2 (01:07:41):
Okay, Clayton, one last question that we're gonna do are
hot topics? Okay. One of the very first TV projects
you did was called Fhagne and Gay.

Speaker 1 (01:07:52):
Fagne and Gay Syre was involved in that. But one
of the things that was popping off when I first
moved to LA was called Channel one oh one and
it was this like it was what was an early.

Speaker 3 (01:08:07):
Like YouTube thing that like I don't know if it
was YouTube, it was.

Speaker 1 (01:08:11):
A channel or something, and they would they would there'd
be weekly shows and they would compete and then the
winner would go on to be the next thing.

Speaker 3 (01:08:19):
And Drew Drogie and Mike Rose created this show called
Phagny and Gaycy and it's so funny and they play
like a like really gay cop duo.

Speaker 1 (01:08:34):
But have you ever heard of this thing called Unicorn Planet?
Like it was another one of these things. And right
before I moved to LA, one of the this this
show called Unicorn Planet went viral and Drew Drogi was
one of the voices, and they like all made it together.
And I watched that in Dallas and I was like,
this is amazing.

Speaker 3 (01:08:50):
It's so funny.

Speaker 1 (01:08:51):
I was like, you know, I'm like, if I ever
got to be part of something like this, my world
would be like made. And then like moving out here
and then pretty quickly getting to know like people like
Drew Drogi and some other people that I respected just
like a year before that was that was very cool
to like, you know, get into the like see the
people that I'm like growing up and really respecting this

(01:09:15):
business and loving this business and then getting to be
a part of it is really like almost like a trip.
It's a trip because you're like, oh my god, I
can't believe that this is happening, but.

Speaker 3 (01:09:24):
You sure, I know, and I appreciate you saying that humility.

Speaker 2 (01:09:30):
It's always great to have that. I don't know what
that is. I know, you're like, this is the time
of podcast.

Speaker 1 (01:09:38):
Very much in that world of like weapons is a
big deal, like what like what's next?

Speaker 3 (01:09:43):
What's next?

Speaker 2 (01:09:43):
You know, weapons is going to be in the history books,
just like Exorcists, right, And that's the weird to think
that we're living that right now totally. God, can you
imagine what it was like to have seen exciosists for
the first time? Yeah, and we're gonna be able to
say I remember when I saw weapons.

Speaker 1 (01:09:56):
Yes, and I got invited to do a horror con,
which was always on my bucket list. I'm actually working
on a project right now with Patrick Wilson.

Speaker 2 (01:10:07):
You're gonna be base sexual for that.

Speaker 4 (01:10:09):
He's very handsome, Like, he's gonna be try sexual for that.

Speaker 2 (01:10:12):
He's uh so talented singing.

Speaker 1 (01:10:19):
You know, he's a Broadway He's amazing.

Speaker 3 (01:10:24):
When is that that that's gonna be on Apple TV
coming out like next year?

Speaker 2 (01:10:29):
I will you guys could have seven hot talks for like,
all right, we're gonna do our Stephen Taylor Pop on
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Speaker 4 (01:11:04):
I always like love when this song pops up because
it's one of my favorite because it's pretty bitch.

Speaker 2 (01:11:09):
Okay, So Clayton so hot topic.

Speaker 4 (01:11:12):
Yeah, usually have like a bunch of topics, but I'll
just do one today. This is like more of a
drama topic because so what was it two weeks ago now?
Lelas X was seen walking down the street and then
at four am.

Speaker 3 (01:11:23):
In his underwear in his underware studio City.

Speaker 4 (01:11:27):
Yeah, And but I mean like, but when I saw
the video of him, I was like, I mean, who
hasn't brough down this?

Speaker 2 (01:11:34):
He was anything anything wrong?

Speaker 4 (01:11:36):
And also I was like I was I was sinking,
like maybe little nas, maybe don't hang out the friends
that you're hanging out with, because they sold.

Speaker 2 (01:11:42):
That video to TMZ.

Speaker 3 (01:11:43):
The friends.

Speaker 4 (01:11:44):
I didn't know that whoever was videotaping that it was
sold to TMZ.

Speaker 3 (01:11:49):
It looks like just someone like driving down the street right.

Speaker 4 (01:11:51):
Well, and then people were speculating he.

Speaker 2 (01:11:53):
Was at a party with what friends.

Speaker 4 (01:11:56):
Well, we don't know that, but we just know, like, well,
so it was speculated he was on, you know, a
certain amount of drugs. Apparently that the drug report came
back negative, so he was not anything. He apparently had
a psychotic episode, and he's facing four felony charges and
up to five years in jail.

Speaker 2 (01:12:13):
And the reason why he couldn't get released on bail
right away, was because it was.

Speaker 3 (01:12:19):
Yeah, he had like punched a copp or something or
well that's what they're claiming.

Speaker 2 (01:12:23):
We have not seen any video evidence of which is
very odd that we haven't seen any of that.

Speaker 4 (01:12:27):
I mean, we know that it was probably just resisting
arrests in the sense of like just leave me alone
and is walking down the street and they turned that
into him.

Speaker 1 (01:12:39):
I do feel like it times out with him kind
of like having to deal with the like the issues
of him being famous early, like it kind of like, yeah,
do you know what I mean, like famous?

Speaker 4 (01:12:49):
Did you see what happened to him a few months ago?
Half of his face when paralyzed? Yeah, yeah, so he
already has that happened to Justin Bieber too, yeah, or
something like he had to have his face like it
was like two months ago, went like paralyzed. So he's
already been having health issues and you know, I don't know.
All I have to say is I think that the
people that he keeps around him, like that's why that

(01:13:11):
video came out, yeah, and that's why he's in this position.
But I don't think that he was on drugs or anything.

Speaker 2 (01:13:18):
So here's my take on this is the games. We're like,
oh god, what a mess. Whatever.

Speaker 4 (01:13:22):
I'm like, we've all I think it was fifty fifty
to be honest, but well no, I think it's aty video.
I think Halving people were just like, ooh, he's a mess,
because everyone just wants to like project their bullshit and
be like this guy's a mess. And the other other
half were like, this looks like someone that is having
a mental health crisis.

Speaker 2 (01:13:38):
And I saw somebody that was just having fun down
an empty street and maybe maybe.

Speaker 4 (01:13:43):
It was two it's four am. It's four am. Yeah,
it's like, you know, like having fun, like around the street,
like two three three Steve.

Speaker 2 (01:13:52):
Last week, to me, we.

Speaker 4 (01:13:54):
Were watching Star Trek, So don't get me started.

Speaker 3 (01:13:56):
When I when I watched the video and he was
wearing those white underwear.

Speaker 4 (01:14:00):
That were completely covered, but also like c.

Speaker 2 (01:14:06):
He was he was very sus all the way around.
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:14:09):
I am team Linos on this situation. I think that
he was put in a position with people that are
around him that are taking advantage of his celebrity.

Speaker 2 (01:14:19):
Here's also my thing is we love for him to
push the envelope. We depend on him to push the envelope.
The VMA is pushing the envelope. We created this persona,
we've created him being the crazy guy out in the street,
and then so we can't half of us can't just
turn our backs on it. I don't think they did
the same thing with Brittany.

Speaker 4 (01:14:39):
No, no, no, no, no, we didn't create There's no craziness
on this tree or anything like that. That's not like
we didn't create nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:14:45):
I don't.

Speaker 4 (01:14:46):
I don't agree with that statement because Brittany didn't do
that ship because she was just like, oh, I created
We created Brittany. This is just them, just we.

Speaker 2 (01:14:53):
Put them on a pedestal and put them in the right.

Speaker 1 (01:14:55):
But if he if he literally had a mental health break, that's.

Speaker 2 (01:15:00):
No.

Speaker 4 (01:15:01):
They they they they didn't tell.

Speaker 2 (01:15:03):
Yeah, yeah, there's nothing.

Speaker 4 (01:15:04):
Nothing that was in his system, not even alcohol. There
was nothing in his system during that time.

Speaker 3 (01:15:09):
You ride for little nos.

Speaker 2 (01:15:11):
I know, I'm just doing. I listen, I do, I do.
I'm such a great spokesperson for promoting our sexuality, not
even I just do.

Speaker 4 (01:15:19):
I just do my due diligence and then I'm promoted
for though I'm saying this is part of my report,
and I'm saying that's what I've.

Speaker 1 (01:15:24):
Seemed, that he struggled a bit with his voice as
an artist in the past couple of years, Like I
love that song Montero, but there's other things.

Speaker 4 (01:15:32):
Yeah, I didn't like that. I didn't Yeah, I didn't
like I didn't like that. Yeah, I don't agree with
like if a few of the recent choices made in music.
But that doesn't mean that because he's having health crisis
that we should be like, oh no, it has to
be drugs, especially now we have a full actual police
report they saying that he was not on drugs, so

(01:15:53):
it wasn't actually took him. And I mean, we have
physical evidence of him having an issue months ago about
his face coming out of which also, you know, there's
a disorder when like your face, when your issue comes
with your face, like having to like reconcile with your
face becoming normal again, Like you may never see your
face as normal.

Speaker 3 (01:16:12):
How do you have such a great face?

Speaker 2 (01:16:14):
Oh God, he was waiting whole show for somebody to
say that.

Speaker 3 (01:16:21):
I'm looking at your face, and I'm like, you have
a great xual.

Speaker 2 (01:16:26):
I need your injecture and tell this girl I was bisexual.

Speaker 3 (01:16:31):
To I have you have a great face too.

Speaker 2 (01:16:38):
Wow, that happens. But here.

Speaker 3 (01:16:42):
Is your face as well as good.

Speaker 2 (01:16:43):
Like I'll eat seven hot tgs with you.

Speaker 1 (01:16:44):
But.

Speaker 4 (01:16:47):
The ironies, that's gonna eat the seven I thought that's
funny thing.

Speaker 2 (01:16:51):
My way comes from podcom. Anyway, I'm on your side
and he should support. What I'm saying is that he's
been such a great spokes per for us. Yeah, and
kind of needed him to do, so let's support him. Oh,
I love it. You have a nice face too, that

(01:17:13):
you have a nice fast Clayton, what is your message
to your fans?

Speaker 3 (01:17:18):
My message to your fans is your.

Speaker 1 (01:17:20):
Fans to My message to my fans is I just
want to encourage people to go for their dreams no
matter what age they are, and keep keep striving for
for good things and just use creativity to elevate your
life any way that.

Speaker 2 (01:17:38):
You can, no matter what your face looks like.

Speaker 3 (01:17:40):
No matter if your face is that one or that one.

Speaker 2 (01:17:46):
I feel like Burton Earnie right now? Where could people
find and follow you?

Speaker 3 (01:17:52):
Follow me at Clayton Ferris across.

Speaker 2 (01:17:54):
All platform and his TikTok is a beautiful, beautiful ride.
It's so funny. We were going to play clip, but
we got sidetracked because you were talking about how beautiful
Stephen was. Stephen, where can people find and follow you
social media?

Speaker 4 (01:18:09):
And only Stephen Daylor And.

Speaker 2 (01:18:12):
Yeah, all right, camera back to me. Please, there we go.
My face, my name, my name's on the on the Markeith.
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