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September 2, 2025 71 mins

Over time, it’s likely that you have drifted off course. Like a boat without a navigator, it’s easy to let the current of reality, overwhelm, and frustration take you off course. My guest today, Larry Hagner has been a father for over two decades and knows firsthand what the drift looks like as a dad and how to steer yourself back on course.

Today, we talk about staying awake and vigilant when it comes to leading your wife and kids, the first “domino” to fall before things go horribly wrong, how to get your wife back on course if she starts to drift, in what ways do you become lethargic, monotonous, and bland in your life (and, what to do about it), and learning to build “conversations of curiosity.”

SHOW HIGHLIGHTS
00:00 - Introduction and Catching Up
00:11 - Larry’s Knee Injury Discussion
04:33 - The Forge Event Recap
04:57 - The Pursuit of Legendary Fatherhood Book Launch
07:47 - Understanding the Drift
09:17 - Introducing Lance: The Avatar of the Drift
15:30 - Helping Your Spouse Overcome the Drift
16:12 - Getting Out of the Drift as a Man
23:51 - Coaching Consistency in Men
29:57 - Being a Man of Your Word
31:02 - Motivating Your Wife Respectfully
36:56 - Impact of Kids on Relationships
38:02 - Motivating and Guiding Children
41:50 - Creating Psychological Safety for Kids
47:22 - Building Trust Through Questions
53:30 - Navigating Single Fatherhood
55:09 - Finding Common Ground with Your Child
59:35 - Connecting with Larry and The Forge Event

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