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November 12, 2020 50 mins

In this special episode, Brooke chats with co-director and brother, Jeff Cheley. Recorded prior to the Cameron Peak Fire, Jeff and Brooke reflect on how they have navigated – and managed – this unprecedented year, including the Covid-19 pandemic and what would have been Cheley's 100th summer. Jeff shares his experience growing up at camp bearing the Cheley last name and what brought him back to work at camp in the first place. He also looks forward to next summer and ponders what his legacy might be, both as a camp director and a father. An honest and reflective conversation between siblings and coworkers, this is part of a special series of episodes of the Pack Rat Chat in conversation with Brooke and Jeff.

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