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February 15, 2025 14 mins

In this episode of Parents Who Think, Danusia is in conversation with Rachel Pesso, brand designer and unapologetic truth-teller, about her choice to skip motherhood—despite the relentless pressure to conform. Rachel gets real about the fear of judgment, the selfish-woman stereotype, and those infuriating "you'll change your mind" conversations. Spoiler: she hasn’t.

 

Together, they blow up the outdated myth that motherhood is the only path to fulfillment. Rachel opens up about navigating anxiety, holding onto her ambitions, and the deeply ingrained expectations that make women feel like they have to disappear when they become mothers. This is a conversation that hits deep.

 

If you've ever questioned the script society wrote for you, this one’s for you. Tune in and let’s rewrite the rules.

 

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Credits:

• Hosted by Danusia Malina-Derben

• Edited, Mixed + Mastered by Marie Kruz

• Cover art by Anthony Oram

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