Park Leaders Show
Park Leaders connects the wisdom of Park Managers, leaders in the park system, and thought leaders of the business world with up and coming park leaders. This is the show for Park Rangers, Park Managers, and leaders who want to have an impact. Join host Jody Maberry as he talks to park leaders from all over the world.
Episodes
“Fear often comes from not knowing. Once you take time to learn, fear can turn into respect.”
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[00:02:22] Doug shares his curiosity-driven adventures in Mexico and Russia.
[00:05:00] The challenge of endless progress on a finite planet.
[00:07:18] Why wilderness is essential for grizzlies and for us.
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"Sometimes steady leadership, or keeping the park on course, is the most important thing we can offer."
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[00:01:00] Jon’s work with the Parks Insti...
"Every contact we have is an opportunity to build or destroy a relationship."
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[00:02:00] – Why law enforcement consistently ranks among the most debated topics in parks
[00:06:20] – Chip’s background, love for the outdoors, and how nature shaped his perspective
[00:08:16] – The assumption that all rangers are law...
"You take care of the people, and they will take care of the park."
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[00:01:26] Introduction to the four types of park managers
[00:02:04] Deep dive into People First management
[00:14:24] Park First leadershi...
"Every park has trees and trails. What makes people come back is you."
Notable Moments
[00:03:05] – Starting the keynote, the outhouse story that sparked an award
[00:07:24] – Transition from financial analyst to ranger life
"Too often today everything is tech and screens… but picking up a book, putting on a pair of glasses, and seeing something really cool—it’s inspiring and fun."
Notable Moments:
00:03 – Dave’s early love for camping and the outdoors
04:47 – How 3D photography became part of his storytelling
08:44 – Behind the scenes of the Theodore Roosevelt 3D photo
11:22 – Overview of parks included in the...
“National parks are sacred not because of what we build, but because of what we protect.”
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[00:00:20.320] Introduction of Sacred Landscapes
[00:01:23.010] Sam’s unexpected inspiration to write the book
[00:08:14.120] The emotional transformation of spending years on the road
[00:18:03.540] Nat...
“You don’t have to come from parks to lead in parks. But you do have to embrace the culture, listen, and lead with purpose.”
Notable Moments
[00:02:00] Starting out as a seasonal worker builds a foundation
[00:03:40] Promoting park managers without prior experience
[00:05:18] Success stories of hiring from outside the park syste...
"Storytelling is the bridge between awe and understanding, whether you're in a theme park or a national park."
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01:05 – Bob’s national park road trip that shaped his worldview
05:24 – “Recreation” vs. “Re-creation”: the true power of parks
06:10 – Walt Disney’s advice: walk the park, observe the guests
"When you truly love a place, you do whatever it takes to protect it, even if it takes a decade."
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00:01:04 Meeting Rodrigo and Jose
00:02:03 Rodrigo shares how a simple question sparked conservation
"The only way you're going to save the world is with a damn good story."
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02:13 – Jeff’s origin story: how a zoo letter changed his life
04:47 – Radical collaboration and partnerships across conservation groups
06:31 – Story of Pueblo Patagonia and local leadership in Chile
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“A win in conservation is temporary. You’ll fight for it again. A loss is permanent.”
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[00:01:03] – Why politics and public land are inseparable
[00:04:37] – The impact of the Antiquities Act on land policy
[00:06:57] – South Carolina’s bipartisan approach to land conservation
“Parks protect the land, but just as importantly, they protect the stories that shaped our nation.”
There are a number of ways parks can contribute to the United States’ 250th anniversary. From South Carolina’s rich revolutionary history to the roles western parks can play, this conversation highlights how parks serve as stewards of history, not just nature. Phil joins to share his involvement with sta...
"I'm going to do something that's connected to the national parks or our or a state park near me so that I can use my knowledge and see the real world impact it has. And that way, I never am stuck in class asking, why is this important? Why on earth do I have to learn this?"
Notable Moments
03:02 Parks' Enhanced Virtual Learning Programs
05:30 The Value o...
"We've designed the bathroom to be agnostic to the environment in which it goes. There are certainly other operational considerations the further out you go, but there's really no fundamental limitation as to where we put a throne."
Bathrooms in parks are rarely the focus of innovation, but I was eager to dive into this unexplored territory with guests Jessica Heinzelmann and Fletcher ...
"You have to be ready because change is constant, and you have to be able to adapt and adjust."
As the retired director of South Carolina State Parks and a current professor at Clemson University, Phil Gaines has wisdom on navigating administrative changes in park systems that is invaluable. He joined me to break down the often tumultuous times when new administrations take office...
"Nothing gets done without partners. And in fact, it's way more fun when you get to do it with other people."
Philanthropy is a powerful tool that often goes unnoticed in the world of park management. I have the privilege of diving deep into this with Sarah Unz, Vice President of Community Partnerships at the N...
"They've done studies observing children in a park. They issue the more organized places like a like a soccer field or basketball court, but the kids always end up on the edges where the trees or the brush is just messing around."
Childhood adventures in nature can shape a lifetime of curiosity and exploration. That’s why I was thrilled to chat with Chris Ande...
"After 43 years of doing this, some things didn't sound accurate to me. So I started researching this in in order to to put together a program to go out and really explain what the history of these places are and what is fact and what is fiction."
When was the last time you thought about the history behind our public lands? It's more intricate than many realize. One person that knows that is a veteran leader in the world of parks, ...
"Signs don't do much. It's the educational programs where you're actually talking to people that are the most effective in changing behaviors."
Notable Moments
00:42 Prescott's volunteer-driven, unique park ranger system.
03:26 Code enforcement change to interpretation.
07:07 Leave No Trace signs to improve local campsites.
11:48 Enhance accessibility and safety to attract f...
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