Perpetual Traffic

Perpetual Traffic

Perpetual Traffic is a twice weekly podcast that shares cutting-edge strategies on acquiring leads and sales for your business. The show is produced by Tier 11 and hosted by Ralph Burns and Lauren Petrullo. Traffic is the act of putting your product, service, or message in front of your target audience…it’s the act of acquiring customers online while also building goodwill, and is the lifeline of any business. So, whether you’re a media buyer yet to create your first Facebook or Instagram ad, a Director of Marketing or CMO managing a team of marketing specialists, or a CEO growing your business on your own, you’ll discover actionable strategies that can be applied today. Perpetual Traffic combines the traffic strategies developed at Tier 11 with the real-life agency experience of the hosts. Listen to real stories of business owners and marketing executives just like you how they overcame struggles with digital marketing and online advertising. Learn how to make Facebook advertising, Instagram advertising, YouTube advertising, Twitter advertising, Google AdWords advertising, LinkedIn advertising, (and more) work for your business.

Episodes

July 29, 2025 66 mins

If you're spending across Meta, Google, Amazon, and Shopify—but still unclear which channel is actually closing the sale—this episode is your roadmap to marketing clarity. Ralph Burns and John Moran break down a real Tier 11 case study that exposes how most businesses are flying blind when it comes to attribution. You’ll discover why traditional ROAS can lead you astray, how NAC and MER reveal true performance, and why “contributio...

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Ralph and Lauren take a bold look at a rising issue in modern marketing teams: is AI making your team dumber? Drawing from real-world agency experience, Lauren shares a transparent case study from her own business where AI tools like ChatGPT and Jasper created an illusion of productivity but resulted in lackluster, surface-level insights. The discussion tackles how over-reliance on AI can quietly erode critical thinking, replacing ...

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Ralph Burns and Lauren Petrullo reveal seven proven upselling strategies to dramatically boost your new average order value (NAOV) and customer lifetime value (LTV). Using real examples from the beauty, CPG, and supplement industries, they break down how to effectively implement pre-purchase, mid-purchase, and post-purchase upsells—including bundling, subscribe-and-save options, thank-you page offers, an...

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Ralph Burns and Lauren Petrullo unpack 6 brilliant cross-sell plays designed to immediately lift your new Average Order Value (nAOV) in this masterclass on post-purchase optimization. Ralph and Lauren break down how to implement cross-sells that convert, define essential metrics like NCAC and nAOV, and share real-world tactics currently in use at Tier 11. If you’re focused on maximizing customer LTV and dialing in your funnel econo...

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In this episode of Perpetual Traffic, Ralph and Kasim visit part 2 of a case study of a successful digital marketing campaign for a personal injury law firm. They emphasize the importance of emotive copywriting, a prominent phone number, and urgent call to action to boost conversions. Utilizing authentic user-generated content (UGC) relevant to the target audience is also highlighted. The hosts stress simplicity in advertising, und...

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In this must-listen rebroadcast, Ralph Burns and Kasim Aslam break down a game-changing case study that reveals how combining Google’s deep data insights with Meta’s evolving ad algorithm can slash your cost per signed case to under $2,000 — a gold standard in personal injury law. Ralph and Kasim share how Tier 11’s refined Conversion Engine taps into Google’s 72 million (or more) data points to pinpoint high-intent leads at exactl...

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In this special crossover episode, Ralph Burns takes the hot seat outside of Perpetual Traffic — guesting on the Cashflow Kings podcast with hosts Scott Brandley and DJ Sprague. Together they break down why your NCAC (New Customer Acquisition Cost) is the single most overlooked but mission-critical number in your business. Ralph explains how top e-commerce CEOs and growth marketers win by outspending the competition profitably, why...

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In this episode of Perpetual Traffic, Ralph and Lauren are joined by Val Riley, Vice President of Marketing and Strategy at Unbounce, to tackle the latest disruptions in Google Ads' AI Max landing page requirements. As AI continues to reshape digital marketing, these changes could significantly impact how you design and optimize landing pages for Google Ads. This episode dives deep into practical strategies and insights to adapt to...

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    Ralph and Lauren break down the exact Most Valuable Activity (MVA) method that helped them triple their Spanish YouTube subscribers in just 30 days — without spending more on ads. From behind-the-scenes bloopers to real talk on Gen Z team management and daily goal setting, they reveal how a simple shift in focus can transform your channel growth. Tune in for tactical steps and raw insights you can implement today to scale faster wi...

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    Ralph and John return to the "performance kitchen" to unpack a radical shift in digital advertising strategy. Discover why ungated webinar content, pre-click education, and native storytelling inside ad sets are outperforming traditional funnel tactics. John breaks down how a $120 glove brand scaled with a sub-$20 CPA—without touching the campaign for over a month—and why Meta's Andromeda update is forcing advertisers to master con...

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    Lauren Petrullo, founder of Mongoose Media, dives deep into her revolutionary "Email Triage" strategy—an AI-enhanced approach to onboarding emails that radically departs from stale templates. Learn how she reengineers the traditional 5–14 email sequences into dynamic, ultra-relevant pathways that scale personalization without sacrificing automation. Whether you're running an eComm brand, SaaS startup, or B2B agency, this episode wi...

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    Are your B2B ads mysteriously tanking on Google? In this explosive episode, Ralph and Lauren sit down with landing page expert Tas Bober, founder of The Scroll Lab by Delphinium, to unpack Google’s stealth February 2025 landing page compliance update—a change that’s silently sabotaging paid traffic across the board. Tas reveals how Google’s AI is now judging your UX with teacher-level scrutiny, how rage scrolling signals are reshap...

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    Ralph and Lauren welcome back Scott Desgrosseilliers, CEO of Wicked Reports, to dive into the biggest frustrations plaguing marketers today: accurate attribution. Scott unveils his brand-new “5 Forces” framework, a methodology born out of frustration, testing, and maybe a little time on the toilet—but designed to help marketers and entrepreneurs unlock hidden revenue from their existing data. You’ll learn why most attribution model...

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    Meta Ads are evolving—and if you’re still clinging to Advantage+ Shopping campaigns, you’re already behind. In this high-impact episode, Ralph Burns and John Moran pull back the curtain on their $4M+ test using Meta’s new Advantage+ Sales Campaigns, breaking down what’s working right now in the face of Meta’s June 25th switchover. You’ll hear why "one campaign, one ad set, 50 ads" is more than just a tactic—it’s the future. Whether...

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    Ralph Burns and Lauren Petrullo sit down with online video storytelling expert Ian Garlic to unpack the collision of artificial intelligence and video marketing. Broadcasting from the legendary Casa de Garlic, they dive into how AI is reshaping content creation—and the critical difference between smart augmentation and soulless automation. Ian shares insider tools, real-world use cases (including a wild Florida Bar AI debacle), and...

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    Ralph and Lauren sit down with Ian Garlic, the founder of Video Case Story, to uncover the most effective ways to use video for sales. While most brands flood social media with endless content, Ian reveals why simply creating more video isn’t enough. Instead, he shares a strategic approach to video marketing—one that moves prospects seamlessly from awareness to purchase without relying on traditional ad clicks. Whether you’re strug...

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    Ralph Burns takes you inside a real Tier 11 agency call to reveal three groundbreaking ways his team is leveraging AI to supercharge Meta and Google ad accounts, streamline client reporting, and fast-track campaign buildouts. From using ChatGPT to rapidly generate Google Ads copy and keyword suggestions to integrating AI into agency-wide reporting frameworks, this episode delivers real, tactical insights you can implement right awa...

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    Ralph and Lauren dive deep into the evolving role of AI within Meta’s ecosystem—particularly focusing on the implications of Meta’s $65 billion AI investment and the practical rollout of Llama and Meta’s in-app AI assistant. Lauren reports live from Virginia, where she’s attending a Congressional discussion on AI’s impact on small businesses, bringing front-line insights straight to Perpetual Traffic listeners. From personalized Me...

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    Ralph Burns and Lauren Petrullo dive into the “ugly duckling” of digital advertising: tracking. Lauren reveals her own messy Meta event setup and why that mistake—yes, even from a pro—could be sabotaging your campaigns. Learn why placing a pixel isn’t enough, what event match quality (EMQ) really tells Meta, and how CAPI fixes data loss issues caused by browser-side limitations. This is Part 1 of a 3-part tracking mini-series... an...

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    Ralph Burns welcomes back creative powerhouse Lauren Schwartz, Paid Media Creative Expert and founder of The Loft 325. Together, they break down the 3-Step Creative Formula that’s generating massive results for beauty and wellness brands in a hyper-competitive ad landscape. Lauren reveals how to audit creative, identify conversion gaps, and scale customer acquisition using a proven process. Whether you manage seven-figure accounts ...

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