This Old Marketing

This Old Marketing

Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose, two of the most well-known experts in the marketing space, talk about the latest content, media and marketing trends and discuss how businesses can use content to attract and retain customers. Each podcast show features a discussion of marketing headlines and rants from Joe and Robert on what's going on in the marketing industry. Always useful, entertaining and pretty much 60 minutes long.

Episodes

July 23, 2021 66 min

Clubhouse is back. Maybe.

The social audio app is now open to the world, and has gained 10 million new downloads in the past two months. Joe thinks there is a chance. Robert thinks that Clubhouse as a feature only will fail.

Zoom launches On Zoom. Frankly, this could be big, and positions Zoom as a clear leader in the video creation and event space.

Substack is getting into the podcast game...big time. Is this a good move or just c...

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In this episode, Joe and Robert break down the future of NFTs in marketing, lead by Gary Vaynerchuk's partnership with Budweiser.

TikTok's parent ByteDance goes full Amazon B2B by launching BytePlus, the product version of their AI algorithm. Joe and Robert both believe this is going to be the next greatest thing in marketing tech.

Printed books soar, but is the new opportunity really in print magazines?

And finally, the a...

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In breaking news, MEL magazine is sold by Dollar Shave Club and will begin again in a few months. Joe and Robert discuss why content entrepreneurs should work on exit planning and marketing directors need to focus on M&A.

Is every company a fintech company? Probably not...but the options for content creators to monetize have never been greater. Joe and Robert discuss all the options.

And here comes TikTok! The Chinese social me...

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The boys launch the show discussing the NCAA's new ruling that college players can be compensated for their image and likeness.

While we don't know exactly what will happen, we do know that athletes from every sport will be developing out their audience-building strategies as of yesterday.

In other news, experiential events are on the rise (of course), but are brands throwing out the digital bathwater and missing a huge opp...

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The Information estimates that last year's creator economy take is about $2 billion dollars. Does it have room to run?

CNBC and The Drum cover content marketing like it's a brand new thing, while American Express ditches their Departures print magazine for the web's greener pastures.

And podcasts continue to go big, now accounting for over $1 billion in advertising revenues.

Rants and raves include Drew Barrymore's ...

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June 18, 2021 66 min

After more than 50 years, American Airlines decided to shutter its print magazine American Way. Good decision? Not a chance. Based on data? Probably not.

Americans have hit fatigue status when it comes to Video on Demand (VOD). Is this a short-term blip or will things continue to heat up?

Spotify launched its Clubhouse-competitor Greenroom this week. The boys discuss who will win the social audio wars.

And finally, Netflix launched...

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Apple unveiled their new privacy policy this week. Among the features is an ability not to track open rates in email newsletters. The boys think this is bad for ecommerce and advertising and good for long-form email newsletters.

Facebook announced their Substack killer, called Bulletin, in their fight to slowly manipulate more content creators to the platform.

And of all the new products Twitter has announced, the first one to laun...

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In this episode, Joe and Robert start by dissecting the employment move back to offices. Is this a meaningless blip or will marketing and content creation be altered forever?

Is the future of media podcasts and newsletters? Axios sure thinks so. While it's an amazing and growing model, both Joe and Robert feel there is an opportunity to zag.

Discord does a rebranding. Is there a new CMO or will there be a buyout? The boys think...

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Decentralized publishing is starting to become "a thing" with the launch of Mirror.xyz, a site for writers built on top of a crypto economy.

And yes, creator coins are a thing. The tokenization of everything is happening and content creators sit at the center.

Twitter is on the move, finally getting back to the blue verification mark (get yours now). But in bigger news, Twitter is testing out its Super Followers program, wh...

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At almost the same time AT&T announced that their WarnerMedia buy was a mistake, Amazon seems close to picking off MGM Studios. Why is everyone except telecom companies figuring this out?

And then, there's TheSkimm, which is going shopping for a buyer that is NOT a media company.

Big launch week for Pinterest, which adds a live event component, and Twitter, which doesn't quite get their subscription program right.

And f...

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Social audio company Clubhouse finally launches in Android, but faces an uphill climb around moderation and trolls.

Hubspot makes a brilliant move in starting a podcast network. Could it be a glorified sponsorship package? Possibly. But it's still brilliant.

And we finally know why YouTube has been fiddling with their short-form video advertising...they are launching a $100 million dollar creator fund for short-form video creat...

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Verizon changes course again by selling off AOL and Yahoo to Apollo. Joe and Robert think they'll purchase both back for more at a later date.

Rumors are swirling that Netflix may buy Discovery. Smart move considering how much Netflix is paying for original content these days.

And we've seen the future and it is Food52 with their purchase of Dansk.

Twitter Spaces moves aggressively into Clubhouse's turf, but Joe thinks ...

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In this week's news, Neutrogena and Old Spice release the details on the creation of their internal brand studios. Is this Marriott all over again or something different? The answer is in promotion and audience building.

More acquisitions are in the works, as friend of #ThisOldMarketing Jay Acunzo sells his podcast. Are more to come?

Investors are getting into the content creation game by purchasing equity in shows and enewslet...

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Is the biggest part of a paid advertising budget with influencers now? The boys think not.

Science seems to think that the web can survive without advertising. If so, there are huge opportunities for ungated media sites. And...it really doesn't matter what browser you advertise on.

In social audio news, Discord launches their own Clubhouse. So will Facebook. And with Microsoft not buying Discord, who will?

Breaking news: Apple ...

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DraftKings hires a chief media offer, kicking off their formal program for content marketing and into actually buying media companies.

The latest Pew social media research is out. What do we think? Facebook might be in trouble. Oh, and Americans hate social media but are addicted to it.

The boys also discuss a rather lengthy article about the staying power of Clubhouse. Can the thrill continue?

And mostly rants this week. Joe rants...

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April 9, 2021 67 min

Well, there's a new Facebook data leak, and Facebook is blaming users instead of taking responsibility. The good news? Facebook is updating their feeds so you can have more of what you want. Will it matter? Probably not.

Clubhouse, the social audio unicorn, is now speculated at being worth $4 billion dollars. Robert thinks less. Joe thinks more.

Clubhouse is also adding creator payment options. Robert is still not happy.

Joe r...

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I know, it's hard to believe, but Episode #1 of This Old Marketing still has not sold yet as an NFT. Maybe you forgot? You can bid on it here at Opensea.

The social audio battle continues this week, with Spotify buying social radio player Betty Labs, while LinkedIn is about to release their own version of Clubhouse.

And guess what? Medium is pivoting again. This time, they are looking at a Substack model.

Rants and raves includ...

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Bid on the first This Old Marketing NFT - Episode #1 now...proceeds going to charity.

In this episode, Verizon announces the launch of a robust Yahoo Plus. All we can say is "ouch."

Roku continues its Quibi-filled dominance by announcing a marketing services group that might actually work.

The New York Times puts down its virtual foot on reporter side gigs. The boys wonder how that happened.

And finally, MEL magazine from ...

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March 19, 2021 66 min

The Oscars are back and guess what? Netflix absolutely crushed it (and yes, we called it years ago).

Facebook is launched a new creator model for writers and journalists that is truly seductive, and will work for inhibiting creators from developing out their own platforms.

In NFT land, Charmin has developed an NFT(P) that is sure to kill the entire NFT market (kill as in bad, not good).

In rants and raves, Joe raves about Google...

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After a royal analysis courtesy of Robert, the boys dissect Disney's subscription program as they hit over 100 million paid subscribers worldwide.

The conversation pivots to NFTs (non-fungible tokens), as they discuss Seth Godin's latest blog post about the negatives of NFTs. Robert sides with Seth. Joe thinks Robert should take a ride to the old folks home. Regardless, creator business models are changing.

Oh, and as the c...

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