This Old Marketing

This Old Marketing

Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose, two of the most well-known experts in the marketing space, talk about the latest content, media and marketing trends and discuss how businesses can use content to attract and retain customers. Each podcast show features a discussion of marketing headlines and rants from Joe and Robert on what's going on in the marketing industry. Always useful, entertaining and pretty much 60 minutes long.


June 9, 2023 75 mins

Big news of the week is the PGA tour merging with the Saudi-backed LIV tour. Joe and Robert talk about what this means for brands in the future.

Apple launches the Vision Pro. Will there be a long-term market for the product?

Rumors again surface about Apple buying Disney. Is this even close to being possible?

And Elon announces that Twitter's subscribers can me moved off-platform.

Rants and raves include ChatGPT-5 and Tucker Carls...

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In this episode of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert talk about the 22-word statement from the creators of AI. Simply put, we are in big trouble.

WPP launches a content engine with Nvidia that will make the production of ads quicker and easier because of AI. I know...everything we always wanted.

Elon continues to push Twitter over the edge, including a big middle-finger to the EU's Disinformation Code of Practice, and the formal ou...

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In this episode, Elon goes full Murdoch, trying to build Twitter into the next Fox News.

Advertising continues to plummet for media companies and creators. How long will this ad recession last?

There are rumors that Meta will announce a Twitter competitor any time now. Joe and Robert believe this is false news.

And TikTok sues Montana in the goofball move of the year (by Montana, not TikTok).

Rants and raves include the creator eco...

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May 19, 2023 73 mins

The battle for AI continues...this time on the Hill. Sam Altman testified to Congress, doing his best Harrison Ford impression (you'll get the reference after listening).

The writers' strike continues, and now includes generative AI at the center.

And there is a new product coming out that could solve the copyright battle.

Podcasting ads are going gangbusters, while Google is about the change the face of search (maybe).

Rants and r...

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May 12, 2023 71 mins

The next great online battle is that over trust.

We are seeing this play out in front of us, first with the news of Tucker Carlson moving from Fox to Twitter, then Elon's "trust nothing" decree, and then as millions flood to follow MrBeast.

Google and Microsoft go to battle over AI advertising products that aren't ready for market yet.

Rants and raves include Berkshire Hathaway's annual letter and Salesforce's pivot to AI.

This wee...

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For only the fourth time in history, Joe and Robert record a live episode face-to-face. Creator Economy Expo (CEX) 2023 brought content creators from all over the world together between May 1st and 3rd.

The boys do a complete roundup of the latest creator economy research, as well as an overview of the keynotes at CEX, all inside the Evergreen Podcast Networks studio at CEX.

This week's links:

2023 Creator Economy Research from The...

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Big media news this week as multiple big name personalities get let go, plus Buzzfeed News decides to shutter its news division.

Twitter's verification system is, frankly, all over the place. Elon cannot keep a decision for more than 24 hours at this point.

ChatGPT announces new privacy options you didn't even know was a problem. Is AI and content making more or less sense these days?

Rants and raves include AI consumer research an...

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Elon is back in the news, announcing that Twitter will now report directly into X corp. Is this the X everything app plan or a way to hide expenses?

A Drake song goes viral that wasn't really Drake. Joe and Robert discuss the impact of AI parodies from music to text (and what we should expect).

Spotify goes non-exclusive with Gimlet. Was this a planned or surprise move?

And a new Deloitte survey shows that video games now top the c...

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April 14, 2023 67 mins

Bytedance, the owner of TikTok, puts big money behind their Instagram/Pinterest clone called Lemon8. Pushing for a May launch in the states, Lemon8 is going directly after Instagram (and perhaps the US government). Will it succeed in an already crowded social media field?

Bud Light gets hate mail from Kid Rock. Is that a good or bad thing?

And AI continues to be the leading story in the world of marketing. When will the hurting sto...

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In this very special episode of This Old Marketing, Joe and Robert go back and forth each sharing the five best decisions they made over their careers that helped them build a loyal audience.

While some are no brainers, a few of these will surprise you.

We hope you enjoy this very special episode of This Old Marketing.


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This week, the boys analyze the surprise announcement from Substack about how they want their customers to also be investors. Is this an innovative or inclusionary move, or a sign that the Substack business model is suffering?

Some big hitters move against the proliferation of AI. Good move or too late?

Twitter and Meta are both going full-out "verified" and want money from their creators. Is this a necessary evil or something we s...

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Oh boy is TikTok in the news this week.

Now more than 150 million Americans use TikTok on a regular basis. The US government believes this is a security risk for multiple reasons. But most people aren't talking about the #1 reason (we discuss this).

Streaming is down from its lofty levels. Will it continue to dip? We think it might. Is there a new streaming model on the way?

And social media is going the way of the DM. What does th...

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This week, TikTok is back in the news with an ultimatum from Biden's camp. The SVB collapse takes center stage, and Joe and Robert go into the weeds discussing it.

Will Meta be the next AOL? We think the news is overblown.

ChatGPT-4 is released and the world turns on its axis.

And then there is Ryan Reynolds, who sells Mint Mobile for $1.3 billion, an entirely marketing-driven feet. How did he do it? Let's discuss.

In rants and rav...

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March 10, 2023 69 mins

TikTok is all over the news again. This time, a bipartisan committee has come up with a bill for Biden to ban TikTok. But not just that. It will give executive powers to ban pretty much anything that they "deem" a security risk. Joe and Robert believe this bill goes too far.

In other news, Medium makes a "meh" announcement about Mastodon, while this week just about every major tech company launched an AI product.

Oh...and tech pub ...

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The godfather is back for the special #ThisOldMarketing 365 reunion show.

In this episode the boys break down Meta's new verified subscription program. Could it be that they say good things about Facebook for the first time ever?

Substack hits two million paid subscriptions. Is this important for creators?

Bing continues to get all the news with its ongoing issues with AI. Could marketing be the answer?

And...we bring brack our "Mu...

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With Joe on another sabbatical, Robert hosts the amazing Paul Roetzer, the world's foremost expert on marketing and AI content. Robert asks Paul the following:

1. How do you think the development of AI-based search affects brands willingness to make content available to search engines? Will people start putting more of their content behind a gate?

2. From a content and marketing perspective...

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February 17, 2023 70 mins

In this episode, Time and Taboola team up (is that Timeboola?) for a new eCommerce experiment. Is eCommerce the new sponsorship for publishers?

The disinformation war is over. Disinformation won.

And AI content is changing the business model for creators and the fight for search. Does this open a real opportunity for those who have audiences? Is AI content just a race to the bottom?

In rants and raves, Joe loves this new research o...

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In this very special episode of This Old Marketing, Joe and Robert break down the good, the bad and the ugly for social media platforms in 2023 and beyond, including Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, LinkedIn, Twitter and more.

This week's sponsor is Streamyard.

StreamYard is the easiest way to create content right in your browser. You can multistream to your social media platforms, host a weekly show wit...

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More ChatGPT news this week, as Microsoft works to integrate the AI tool into Bing, while Buzzfeed's stock soars as the company announces their new work process that includes ChatGPT.

It's earnings time, as Spotify and Meta both announce...and bounce. What's Spotify's new podcast plan? Can Meta make a comeback?

And the boys get bullish on LinkedIn, as their newsletter plan jumps 10x in the past year.

Rants and raves includes MrBeas...

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This week the boys discuss a breaking story about OpenAI and Kenya. The memes are everywhere.

Spotify is laying off six percent of its workforce. Are they signaling something about a podcast bear market we should know about?

The DOJ is coming down hard on Google. Are they five years too late?

Rants and ra...

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