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March 25, 2025 44 mins

Thomas and award-winning reproductive justice and human rights leader Loretta J. Ross explore how we can address inequality, oppression, and hate in an atmosphere of political division and fast-paced technological progress.

Loretta shares experiences that helped her form more effective strategies to solve social problems collectively and build inclusive movements that fight oppression with love, hope, and community instead of hate, anger, and vengeance.


She and Thomas discuss the concept of “Calling In” – an accountability process that focuses on respect, engagement, and equal partnership, and how this is more effective than the adversarial “calling out” that we’re used to. Loretta explains how this practice can help social justice movements embrace diversity of thought and stop destructive in-fighting.


 


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Loretta J. Ross is a renowned activist, scholar, and pioneer of the 1970’s movement to end violence against women that laid the groundwork for the #MeToo movement. She founded the first U.S. center for creative human rights education and has deprogrammed hate group members, inspiring her upcoming book, Calling In the Calling Out Culture. She was inducted into the National Women's Hall of Fame in 2023.


Connect with Loretta here:  👉 https://lorettajross.com 


Read Loretta's newest book: Calling In: How to Start Making Change With Those You'd Rather Cancel


👉 https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Calling-In/Loretta-J-Ross/9781982190798


Take Loretta's E-Course: Calling In: Navigating Conversations and Cultivating Compassionate Connections


👉 https://speakoutinstitute.thinkific.com/courses/Calling-In-Navigating-Challenging-Conversations-and-Cultivating-Compassionate-Connections


 


Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. 


In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.


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