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High Voltage takes center stagein this season of Hitachi
Energy's Power Pulse podcast.
We promise to bring you great contentfrom the brightest minds in the business.
We'll discuss challenges, opportunities,and all the hot topics
any high voltage enthusiast
or anyone interested in sustainability,for that matter, is sure to enjoy.
This episode of the podcast,
we'll tell you thateven though Hitachi Energy
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is the perfect placefor engineers, physicists,
and chemists, to namebut a few, it is also the perfect place
for anyone wanting to pursue a careerin a number of other professions.
Ana Camarero is the global CFOat the High Voltage unit.
She’s not an engineer.
Her background is in finance,
a field she has worked in throughout her25 year long career in the company.
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Welcome back to Power Pulse.
I'm your host, Sam Dash, and todayI'm speaking with Anna Camarero,
Global ChiefFinancial Officer at High Voltage.
Hi Ana. Hi.
So, Anna, I've heard you've beenwith Hitachi Energy for 25 years.
Is that right? It's correct.That's beautiful.
So you have a real connectionwith the company?
Yes. Can you tell me a bit about the Ana25 years ago?
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And what made her decide on a careerin the energy sector?
Okay.
25 years ago, I was only 22.
Okay, so
in full transparency,I didn't decide it for the energy sector
at that point in time.
I just finished the university,
and I was just willing to find a jobin which I could learn.
And then I heard that this companyhad a global training program for finance.
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Also,maybe we talk later about that program
because it's very nice and that they gaveyou the opportunity to be on an 18
month, rotatingsix months in different positions.
Oh, wow.
So I found it very interesting.
And I thought, okay, if I get the chance,then I would get to know
better what I want to do right?
So I appliedand I was lucky enough to be selected.
And that's how I started in this company.
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And so it sounds like very
holistic training, getting to seeall those different positions
and what they feel like.
Exactly.
The idea is that yourotate in three positions, six months
each position in different departmentsor in different countries even.
Right.
You have a mentor and then you candiscuss, ‘I feel okay here.
I don't like this one’,so you can select the right place for you.
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And it was very nice.
I didn't finish it, to be honest,because I was in the first assignment
and then the personthat I was working for left,
and then they asked me, would you thinkyou are able to do this job?
And I said yes, which is was not.
But I say yes. Yeah, yeah.
And then I stayed there.
So I didn't select the industry, butI think it's more important that I decided
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to stay than the first decision,when you don't know what you want to do.
Well, it sounds like someone saw somethingin you, saw potential in you,
and you said yes to this opportunity,even not necessarily
knowing that you could do it,
but the fact that someone believed in you,maybe helped you put faith in it.
Actually, that is one of the main thingsthat I always repeat
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to my kids and to everyone that worksfor me, that everybody can do everything.
It might take more effort or less,depending on your initial capabilities,
but at the end you cannot limit yourself.
You know, because I strongly believethat everyone can do everything
with more or less effort depending,but you can still do it.
And that's some of the beauty of humanity,is that sometimes
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others can see great ability in you,even if you can't at that moment.
Yeah.
You are the chief financial officerof a large business unit.
That is a very impressive jobfrom the outside as well as the inside,
I'm sure.
What would you sayare key things that got you to that place
in terms of work ethicor the way you approach things?
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Okay,that is a question that should be done.
We mainly the people that gave methe different opportunities, but
I believe, as you said, I'm quite honestwhen I work.
So I honestly dothe things the best way I can.
And since I have been 25 yearsin this company, I feel it's like mine.
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So I work as if the company was mineand in all sense,
when utilizing the resources
of the company, when dedicating timewith the commitment and so on.
So I think that is one of the key topics.
You sort of treat it like it'sone of your children.
I don't know if childrens, but if it ismine, you know, so I honestly care– Yeah.
About everythingthen I have a lot of commitment.
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And then I guess is also it’sa bit of luck that I was surrounded
by leaders that decidedthat I could take the opportunity in line
with what you were saying before.
Sometimes even before,I thought I could do it.
Timing is key.
Yeah, yeah.
Also, I have never planned for this.
You know, because as I said,and I think everything is in relation
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since I told you, I'm quite honest,
when I work, I workas if I would be in that position forever.
So I don't have a hidden agenda,or I take all the risks
that I think are good for the jobor for the business.
I don't sayI will not go in these direction,
because if I do a mistakethen it will damage my career later.
I am not like that.
I'm fully committed.
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As if I would be there forever.
Yeah.
And yeah I think it's basically,
it’s like thatbut I don't know, I would need to ask
the people that gave me the opportunity.
Yeah.
We'll ask some of those peoplein the next season. Yes.
And so as someone who is not an engineer,
the energy industry can be quite dauntingfor me to wrap my head around sometimes.
And I imagine others might feelthe same way.
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Can you break it down for us and sharewhat it's like to be inside the industry
and what is particularly exciting about itfor you right now?
Okay, yeah. It's true.
When I arrived to this company,
you have an additional complexitynot being an engineer, right?
Because it is not the kind of company
doing lollipops or bread or somethingthat you can really understand.
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Yeah, something very tangible.
If you are not an engineerand they start talking to you
about impedance and shortcircuits or whatever.
Any sort of jargonthat they maybe throwing around.
Yeah.
At the beginning you said, okay,what they are talking about, you know,
and then you feel like I will never getto understand this at the beginning.
Yeah. But it's like everything.
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You end up learning.
Of course, I cannot design a Transformers.
I cannot do these kind of things.
But I think I have a pretty good idea ofwhat we are doing and why we are doing it.
And once you get to know,it's really amazing, right?
Because you are contributingto the energy transition
or we are contributingin the energy transition in a way
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that when you get to know,you feel really, really proud.
Yeah.
So coming back to the last portionof your question
that you were asking right now, right nowis a unique momentum for this industry.
And that is what I feel at leastbecause of all the energy transition.
And we working in a company that is leaderin energy
is something that not only the engineers,but everybody feels very proud of.
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And so in the span of your career,how has the technology evolved
either here at Hitachi Energyor in the industry more widely?
The technology, I mean, we havebeen working and we invest a lot in R&D
but the technology was quite a stablefor the first, I would say 15 years.
We were doing improvements on thecapabilities of our products and so on.
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But the technology, in essencewas the same now
and that's why I was saying it'sa unique momentum.
Yeah.
We are doing a total revolutionof our portfolio, introducing
the new technologythat allows us to avoid the SF6,
which it is a gas
that we use for insulation,and not only us, but the whole industry,
but it has some environmental impactsthat we need to work to reduce, right?
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Now, it's a unique momentumbecause this portfolio that we have,
or that we used tohave had been there for decades,
and now we are completely changingthe whole portfolio to make it
more, significantly,more environmentally friendly.
And that is a unique momentum
because this happens in this industryonce in a lifetime, maybe.
Right.
And speakingmore about sort of the evolution
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of the industry to pivot a little bit,there are still, as I'm sure you know,
gender gaps in the energy industry,but more and more companies
have been championing diversity,equity and inclusion.
Would you tell us about your experienceat Hitachi Energy
as a leader in the field and what you'repicking up across the industry?
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Yeah, look in the finance organizationwithin this company,
if we talk about gender diversity,there is no gap because in finance,
I don't know the exact number now,but females are even about 50% right?
Right.
As an example, in my teamin finance, in HV,
we are around150 people, more or less a bit more.
But in my closest team of 12 peopleout of the 12,
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five are female, the rest are male.
We have seven different nationalities.
Yeah, Spanish, Italian,German, Indian, Chinese.
So we have seven different nationalities.
So in my closer environmentit is quite diverse, not only about gender
but also nationalities, culture, religion,you name it.
Right. In the company in general.
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True that we have a gap to close,but I think it will come.
It takes time, right? But it will come.
Yeah.
I think it's very relevant, the diversityand the identity, because it brings
a lot of diversity of thought,which helps to the innovation.
People that are alike thinks alike.
Right.
So the more diversityyou bring into the discussion,
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the better – can be gender diversity,can be identity, can be neurodiversity.
So there are many aspects that willcontribute to the enrich the discussion.
Right.
All those different perspectivesadd to a wealth of knowledge
and understanding and inevitablycreate more possible solutions.
Exactly. Yeah.
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In terms of ideas and possible tracksthat people can take
within the energy sector or within highvoltage, what are other careers
that are available to someonewho maybe doesn't want to be an engineer,
but wants to be involved in Hitachi Energyor High Voltage?
I mean, there are many things thatnon-engineers can do in Hitachi Energy.
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There are communication, HR, financeand even in the business
I mean, not from the beginning
maybe because you need to get to knowthe industry but marketing and sales.
But at the end with timewhen you get to understand the industry
and what we are doingand how we are doing, why not?
Someone that is not an engineer
could take a management positionthat is normally assigned to an engineer.
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Yeah.
I mean, it is not that common,but it happens from time to time
when you have the capabilities,because at the end,
once you have all the experienceand you have a team
you believe in and you trust,you don't need to know everything.
You need to trust in your team,
and then you need to managethat team and leader it.
Yeah.
And I've asked a few guests this question,and I think it's fascinating
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because everyone has their ownunique answer.
If you could give any career adviceto a younger generation
considering a career in energy,what would that advice be?
I mean, I would say that
they will be surprisedbecause it is a fascinating industry
that contributes in many aspectsto their improvement in their society.
Now we are with the energy transitionand I mean more environmentally friendly
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and finding waysto reduce the CO2 emissions, right.
And we are heavily contributing to that.
But before that,
we were electrifying placesin which the electricity was not present.
We were therefore doing an easier lifefor a lot of people
living in places that are remoteor without access to electricity.
So even before this momentum we are now,
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it was very rewardingto see those kind of projects.
So at the end, when you work in anindustry, you need to share the purpose.
And that's one of the reasonswhy I'm here 25 years later,
because you need to be proudof what you are doing
because you spent a lot of timeworking, right.
So if you are not in connection
with the purpose of the company,then it makes it very difficult.
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Yeah, that actually makes me want to askyou specifically, are there any memorable
experiences or inspiring projectsthat made you feel, as you say, more
emotionally invested or proud of the workyou do at High Voltage?
There are many.
Yeah.
Because in 25 yearsbut I will maybe mention
that one of the last ones in June 2022,we were in a business trip.
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Some of the management team in highvoltage, including the managing director
in the US, and one of the meetingswas a customer meeting with a utility
called Eversource, which is a utilitythat is supplying the Boston area.
And we were discussingabout the possibility to install the
the first EconiQ DTB400 kV in their network.
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And that was just an ideaat that point in time.
Okay, we were working on R&D to developthat breaker, but it was not ready yet.
And after some discussions,
we agreed, okay, in one year from nowyou will have it delivered.
Yeah.
So then the countdown beginsand you get to work, right?
Exactly.Especially for the technical guys.
And in June 2023, we deliver the breaker.
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We did a very nice ceremony in our MountPleasant Factory in the US.
Which not only their customer was
of course,they were there receiving the breaker,
but a lot of other customerswere there and see their enthusiasm
during the full year of the R&D people,technical guys,
not only marketing and sales, everybodyin the team working on that project.
And then even when we arrived to the USfor the ceremony,
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all the people in the factory,how they were preparing the factory
to be ready for the ceremony,it was very nice and very rewarding.
And so that oneI remember with a special feeling
because I was in the full process,I was very lucky to be in the full process
because I like to join customer meetings,which is not frequent sometimes
for finance, unless you are claimingsome collections and things like this.
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But I enjoy joining the customer meetings
because it helps me to better understandthe industry.
As I was telling you before,
Yeah The more you can learn, the betterbecause it's a complex industry.
So I was lucky enough to bein the full process with the customer
at the beginningwhile they were developing.
Our technical guys,all the breaker, the design, the testing,
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it passed, howthey were feeling proud with every step.
And then when we deliver to the customer,I was also present.
So I feel I was very luckyto be in a full thing Yeah, yeah.
Well,if any of our listeners are as inspired
as I am by what you've been talking about,where could they find
the materials to apply for workat Hitachi Energy?
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We publish all our open positionsin our website.
I think there is a career space. Yeah.
And you can see all the positions that arecurrently open by location, by function.
It's sorted in different waysso you can find it easily.
Terrific.
And then I guess they just need to applyand then wait a bit
because the process might take a bit long,because we take seriously
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the people we hire and,and we try to find always the best.
Yeah.
In parallel,
I would like to say because we are herethat the global training program
that I was mentioning at the beginning,I started the company with is relaunched.
Yeah.
In Hitachi Energy in November 2023I think it was launched.
Amazing.
So for people in finance, thereis this global finance training program.
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I think it's launched in Europe,in Sweden, in Switzerland, in Poland.
Then we have also launched itin the US, in China and in India.
Yeah.
So it's open also for applicantswho may want to join the team.
And people can find that on the HitachiEnergy website.
Fantastic.
Well, thanks so much for joining us todayand it's been an absolute pleasure.
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This episode was brought to you by HitachiEnergy.
Createdand introduced by Bárbara Freitas-Daniels.
Content and scriptwriting by Cassandra Inay.
Guest speaker Ana Camarero.
Hosted by Sam Dash.
Produced and edited by Creative Chimps.