In this episode on the Practicing Hope Podcast, Jenny Steele sits down with Pastor Andrew Vanover, a participant in the Leap of Faith movie. As the pastor of Thornapple Covenant Church in Grand Rapids, Michigan, Andrew shares a powerful and honest look into his journey through the challenges of leading during a global pandemic, navigating church polarization, and enduring significant staff changes.
Along with his pastoral experience, Andrew shares about being part of Leap of Faith. Through this process, Andrew discovered that real transformation often happens in the small, quiet spaces, and that being faithful in those moments is just as significant as anything "grand."
In this episode, Andrew and Jenny discuss:
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How churches, especially in small communities, can be profoundly impacted by the pressures of modern ministry
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How God can unite people with differing views
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How God's kingdom often works through small, ordinary acts of kindness and reconciliation
Listeners will hear about Andrew’s personal growth through his sabbatical, the real-world challenges pastors face in today’s divided climate, and the unexpected ways God works when leaders are open to vulnerability, rest, and collaboration. Andrew's reflections are both encouraging and thought-provoking for anyone in ministry, leadership, or simply seeking hope in times of hardship.
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