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May 1, 2025 56 mins

Welcome to the latest episode of PReserving History and Democracy! In this episode, we’re joined by Salvatore Patricolo, a local historian and member of the Doña Ana County Historical Society. Sal kicks things off by sharing his personal journey and what led him to Doña Ana County.

He then introduces us to the story of Mary Waters, discussing how a 'ghost story' evolved into a fascinating research project. Sal goes on to uncover who Mary Waters was, providing important context behind her life and legacy.

Next, Sal paints a vivid picture of the city during the time of Mary’s death, highlighting the significance of the landscape in understanding her story. He walks us through the fateful night of Mary’s passing, explaining the records and research he uncovered in his investigation.

Sal also delves into the aftermath of Mary’s death, revealing where she was laid to rest. He shares why uncovering the truth behind the ghost story of the old county jail became so important to him.

Later, Sal and the hosts discuss the significance of researching some of the county’s oldest graves. Sal then reflects on Mary’s lasting legacy, noting how her children thrived despite the tragedy that marked their mother's life.

Lastly, Sal gives us a peek into some research projects he has coming up. 

Watch here: https://youtu.be/fXjdQU_oxBE

Hosted by: Caroline Zamora, Bernardine Caporale, Cynthia Mendoza

Special guest: Salvatore Patricolo 

Produced by: Jacob Slaughter, Bernardine Caporale, Cynthia Mendoza 

Edited by: Jacob Slaughter

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