June 13, 2025 • 51 mins
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Summary
In this episode, Aly and Tool Man Dan explore the dynamics of their podcast, the unique male-female perspective in the moto media landscape, and the challenges of asking tough questions in the sport. They discuss the need for transparency in media interactions, the impact of starting blocks on racing, and the evolution of media coverage in motocross. The conversation highlights the importance of balancing traditional media practices with the demands of fans and the sport's growth. In this conversation, the hosts delve into various aspects of motocross, focusing on the critical importance of starts in races, the performance challenges faced by Kawasaki and Jorge Prado, and the dynamics of upcoming motocross events like WSX and AusX. They also discuss the evolution of rider personalities, particularly Jett Lawrence, and the impact of fan behavior on the sport's community.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Dynamic Duo
02:53 The Moto Podcast Landscape
05:55 Media Questions and Transparency in Moto
08:48 The Role of Media in Moto Sports
11:58 The Need for Transparency in Moto
15:00 Starting Blocks and Their Impact on Racing
24:32 The Importance of Starts in Motocross
27:09 Challenges with Kawasaki's Performance
30:41 Prado's Transition and Expectations
34:42 The Dynamics of WSX and OzX Events
38:41 The Evolution of Rider Personalities
44:21 Fan Behavior and Community in Motocross
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Transcript
Episode Transcript
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(00:00):
Hi friends and welcome back to another episode of Real Housewives of Modo.
Somehow I convinced this goober, Toolman Dan, to come back on with me.
Dan, what are you doing here?
have no idea.
I am not a housewife.
Like we have already determined this.
I have no idea how I keep ending up back on this show.
It's because everybody loves you.
Everybody loves your takes.
And you know, you got some knowledge, you dropped some nuggies and we're back for roundtwo.
(00:23):
So here we are.
Like a regular thing, you think?
I mean, I'm game if you're game.
So, so much so that we've been tossing out some names.
I was a fan of the Brappy app, but I get that that's way too feminine and what we're here,we're balancing the masculine with the feminine.
So we're kind of, we're throwing out the idea of Ruts and Rumbles, which I like.
(00:45):
Yeah.
I liked?
was like something Torque.
was like kind of tool related in a way.
Torque talk, yeah that's...
Torque Talk.
Yeah, and Dirt Don't Lie, but that sounded a little too TMZ for us.
I mean, got TMD, we don't need TMZ.
So you can be an honorary housewife.
Housewife Mandan.
housewife.
my God.
(01:06):
That sounds terrible.
actually never, I didn't get any hate at all for being on the show.
Like nobody called me a pussy or anything like that.
Like everybody was cool.
So they must be good with it.
I, as they should, I mean, I thought it was so fun.
I had people who were like, my gosh, you sound like you and Dan like are real friends.
I'm like, we are like in real life.
(01:26):
I like Dan.
I like Dan's family.
Like they're good people moving on.
So yeah, I think we'll continue to do this because you know, there's no real like male,female moto media out there right now.
Knock on wood and know, 10 more might pop up tomorrow, but we'll, go with it until, until,know, until we say otherwise.
So here we are.
(01:47):
Definitely a unique dynamic and saying this on record now, Ali is we are the first, thepioneers of the male female moto podcast episodes.
don't know.
We started this.
We did.
We could have started it like years ago, but I just didn't get my act together.
(02:08):
mean, Dan and I both work full-time jobs.
We are big people.
make money outside of Moto.
Honestly, if you want to make money in Moto, let's have a chat.
Not the sport to do it in, but ah we're 14 episodes.
This is episode 14.
So we're 14 episodes into this little shindig.
ah So we're Cole Seeley, we're Dylan Ferenes, we're K-Dub.
(02:30):
Take your pick.
It's always K-Dub.
K-Dub, excuse me, my first Arlington race, which would have been 2011 or 2012, nobodyprepped me for the transfer.
So like the lights go out and he's cutting from lane to lane and I'm like, someone's gonnadie.
Like nobody warned me.
That was so cool.
(02:50):
uh, cause I do the coach Rob podcast as well.
The vet show, uh, for all the listeners out there, I do a podcast with coach Rob.
It's called the vet show.
It's dedicated or directed towards vet riders like myself.
there's obviously a big group of us, but we do the same thing every month or is, you know,we like this month was episode 14.
So we, we always highlight a rider or somebody in the sport.
(03:14):
And of course it was Kato, right?
um
And that was, that was like, the talk is like the transfers, like he is, but he's knownfor so much more in the sport than just the transfers.
But I mean, if you witnessed the transfers like in person, they were incredible.
I mean, incredible doesn't even begin to describe it.
(03:34):
Like they're terrifying for one thing.
um I mean, in Arlington, like it's so big.
I would love to have seen the transfers at Glendale because that's the big giant stadium,but it's so big and it's so dark.
you're like, not only is that scary to like just ride a dirt bike, but now you're going togo backwards on some of the rhythms and into another one.
like, I'm too paranoid for that.
So yeah, I loved it, but I was always like holding my breath and like, you know, dramaticAllie.
(03:59):
enough staying in your own lane.
ah Transitioning from lane to lane and backwards to forwards.
Yeah, I'm good.
Thanks.
That was unique.
So, okay.
This will be what we've decided.
The people have spoken, the people being us.
This will be dedicated to K-Dub.
But cool that you and Coach Rob are on 14 too.
So if you're tracking along, go over and give the Coach Rob podcast a follow as well.
(04:22):
us, Ali, because you're already on.
We've only been doing this for what?
How many months now?
Uh, whenever Daytona was, So, April.
That's just because I like to talk, you know?
So I'm like, here we are.
So things I want to talk about today, I gave you the heads up on this one.
um The gypsy and pulp commentary on Hopper.
(04:48):
Like, where do you want to start?
So I'll say this, and then I'm going to hand it over to you.
Woke up to the tweet or the Instagram comment from Jace to Steve about...
the question on Twitter and him saying he hates Twitter.
It was so confusing, but what's your take?
Take the floor to him, Andian.
Where you want me to start?
(05:08):
Like, I don't even know.
There's so much to unpack in this whole thing.
Like I could give you my point of view from the whole thing.
I could give you my experience from being a person of the media.
can, I don't know.
Where do want me to go?
Let's start with the question.
What did you think when Johnny asked AP the question?
(05:29):
So initially I thought that um it was, there's some talk about being disrespectful, right?
ah If you're a fan of the sport like we are, okay, we have all known that um Eli has beentalking to KTM, I think the deal's done at this point, but we all know that, right?
(05:53):
But if you're a general,
Which I would think that most of us, like you and I, and then our listeners follow thesport close enough where they're, they're, you know, they're following people on social
media and whatnot.
But then you've got the group of people that don't follow stuff on social media, right?
But you would only see a clip like that on social media.
(06:14):
So I wouldn't really touch like just that, you know, the average person, if you will,watching NBC.
So when I look at it from that point of view, I don't think that his
His question was disrespectful.
It's not like he was breaking news through the moto industry.
So I'll put that to bed.
(06:36):
One of the things that I liked about the question about the whole situation as a person ofthe media, I did those press conferences, right?
Mm-hmm.
In your polo, in your polo.
In my, was the only one in the world.
I always looked the most professional and I always looked and acted the part.
So start there.
(06:57):
But when you are, when you are, say you're, you're with vital MX or you're with race,you're with one of these big media outlets, right?
You are somewhat handcuffed to what you can ask.
And the reason I say that is it's not necessarily coming down from Feld or anybody.
(07:18):
directing the press conference.
Yes, there's, there's been times that I've heard people have been talked to aboutquestions asked, but the biggest issue is that if you are a media member and you ask a
question that is not liked by a writer or a team or a team manager or a manufacturer, youare no longer welcome around their truck.
(07:44):
Team members are not going to talk to you.
Writers are not going to talk to you.
personnel, know, you're just, you're going to be kind of blackballed.
Therefore you cannot get content for whatever media outlet that you're working with.
So a lot of people get upset about, know, how, how come the media doesn't ask goodquestions and how do you, know, it's, it's BS you, know, you look at these other sports
(08:08):
and these, these media personnel or, or asking these tough questions and whatnot.
It's, it's simply that, right.
And our sport is not big enough.
to overcome things like that, right?
It's F1.
um So everybody just tiptoes around what they ask.
Johnny Hopper.
(08:29):
Johnny Hopper has a day job.
He does not need to make money from Moto Media.
I think it's his passion.
It's a passion project and it was similar to me, right?
I did not make money from this industry.
I have a day job.
I have a side business.
uh
I'm not reliant.
If I don't have to be the cool guy in the pits, I don't, if somebody wants to talk to me,cool.
(08:54):
they don't, that's cool too.
Like it doesn't, it never mattered to me.
And Johnny, I don't think it matters to him who he upset or if somebody felt like he's wasdisrespectful.
The end of the day, it, it's not going to affect his pocketbook.
oh
I just wanted to throw that out there.
(09:14):
That question gets asked a lot.
You know, why, why we ask or or media ask soft questions and this and that, whatever.
That's why.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know, it's funny, Katie and I were kind of processing it a little bit before we wenton record earlier this week.
And I was like, I even feel like me as just a fan, a fan with a microphone, which forbetter or for worse, someone has allowed me to speak my truth on the internet about Moto.
(09:35):
um Everyone is literally vying for the same dollar.
And I don't even mean that in like a rider respect.
I mean that literally everybody.
Like there's not enough money in the sport for everyone to have theirs.
It's very top heavy.
We know that.
And so yeah, on the media side, if you get blackballed by somebody, if it's a team, ifit's felled themselves, you're screwed.
(09:55):
mean, you lose your media pass, it's gone.
um And I hate that.
think that, I think if we're gonna break out of kind of being the biggest small sport orthe smallest big sport, whatever way you wanna say it, um we gotta find the happy medium.
Because I do think that like, when people start talking about Hopper, like they're gonnaloop in Cooksy and there's a way to go about asking the hard questions that,
(10:19):
don't piss off everybody.
Like you're always gonna piss off somebody, but I think there's a way to do it in such away that it doesn't piss off everyone.
Now asking AP, probably the smart way to go.
I was having conversations in my DMs that was like, what if it had been Chase?
What if it had been Juju?
To be like, what's it like to have Eli on your team next year, whatever.
(10:40):
Like you would have gotten such a different response.
mean, AP just killed it.
Like he gave everybody what they wanted.
I mean, Eli is just sitting over there like,
I just I wanted to just zoom in and like get Eli's you know heart rate monitor and be likewhat's going on in there but yeah I do agree like I see it from both Steve and gypsy's
(11:01):
side which will go up a level.
ah What was your your thought on math is saying that it was unprofessional because I thinkI disagree with that part.
I think it's, I think, I think I disagree with it as well.
Uh, again, it's, it's not a secret.
It is not a secret.
Yes.
Did it put AP kind of in the hot seat?
(11:22):
Yeah.
I think, I think AP handled it, handled it well, but I don't think it's disrespectful.
I think that Hopper asked what the fans want to hear.
Want to hear it and Hopper nailed it.
Mm-hmm.
The fans are tired of hearing about, you know, Hey, you know, Eli, was your race?
(11:44):
You know, you know, tired, you know, that people are over that they don't care.
They don't want to know.
So asking something.
Direct like the, Eli to KTM thing.
That's what the people want to know.
And AP could have said, I don't want to answer it.
Eli obviously didn't say a single word.
(12:05):
uh
But it's it's transparency.
we need transparency in the sport.
Simple as that.
It's not secretive.
It's terrible.
Yeah, I hate the secretiveness.
I get it.
I mean, like you have to protect your assets and your dollars.
(12:26):
But like at this point, like it's the worst kept secret in the world.
But when that happened, so it was post race press conference, which, you know, if you'renot watching, you know, switching from peacock to YouTube and being a weirdo and a diehard
like me and following it all over the interwebs, you're not going to catch it.
But now as it's rolling out, you know, in the clips and things like that, people are like,oh my gosh, like what's Jessica thinking?
Does Jessica want to move to Tallahassee?
And I'm like, or to Claremont.
I'm like, first of all,
(12:46):
Tomax ain't moving anywhere.
If there's somebody that gets to say put it's the Tomax.
But these are the questions that like my female fans or my female listeners who are fansare asking.
Is there like, what is it like when, when your husband is asked what is Kendall Plessingerthinking when Erin gets that, you know, is she just sitting at home or, know, in the, in
the room being like, my mouth.
uh
because then it opens the door for other questions that we actually do want to know.
(13:09):
Like, what are the discussions that Eli's having not about dollars and parts andsponsorships with KTM?
It's like, is KTM like, got to go to Baker's?
Like, is that on the table?
Like, I want to know, I want to know that.
I don't want to know like the, the perfectly quaffed media response.
ah So I don't think it was unprofessional at all.
We do need transparency in the sport.
(13:29):
To Jace's take, which I'll read it.
So.
He said, I hate Twitter, but Pulpimx loves it.
So I'll pose this question there.
Why criticize someone for being unprofessional at a press conference you're not even at?
Pressers you're never at.
Hot take.
My hot take, this is Jace.
You got a press pass and you don't go to the press conferences.
Then you don't get a press pass.
(13:49):
Johnny Hopper question was literally the only one I saw from this weekend.
Next weekend, Steve, why don't you grace the press conference with your presence and showus how it's done, tiger?
The tiger part killed me.
So I can, I can address that from, from my point of view, right.
Um, when I had a media pass for super cross, the expectation is, is if you have a mediapass, you are to be at the press conference.
(14:16):
being said, like vital MX, they had, they've got multiple people at, at the race, right?
So they have one person in the press conference.
They have one person in the pits doing interviews and things like that.
Right.
That's fine.
But if you are a solo, if you are a solo media person for your outlet, you are expected tobe at the uh press conference.
(14:41):
And I will say that this has come up in the past where I would sit in the pressconferences and ask questions and I would not be able to get writer interviews because
press conference and Steve is out getting interviews because that
That benefits Steve and Steve's comment for Pulpimx, right?
(15:04):
It doesn't fit Feld in a roundabout way.
You can argue it does, right?
But, it's not Feld's content from the press conference.
So it's like there was, there's an expectation for, for the group, but then theexpectation is different for one individual.
With that being said, I, I'm not sure.
(15:29):
That's not a good terminology.
Steve is kind of the pioneer, if you will, for Moto Media.
He's the one that broke us out into the podcasting.
He's the pioneer of that, right?
Does he get a special pass?
(15:49):
Is it okay that he's treated differently than the rest?
I guess that's up to an opinion of anybody, right?
They can take that opinion.
And obviously Jace has that opinion of Steve, right?
So there's that.
ah
(16:10):
I don't know where else to get from.
It's a tough one because as a fan, like, you, I shouldn't say you need, I need Gypsy, Ineed Pulp, I want both of them, but I also want people like Johnny to ask those questions.
So, but my paycheck doesn't depend on it.
And I get that.
And I hate that we're not big enough to, like I said in my real weeks ago, like make thepie bigger.
(16:34):
We're not cutting slices of the same pie.
Make the pie bigger.
So I get it.
I don't like, don't, mean,
I already struggle with like the bro moto media content because literally like, you know,just this year is when I feel like female moto content creators have entered the space.
I'm not even talking about me.
I'm talking about like Michaela.
(16:54):
I'm talking to Michaela on the bike.
Love her.
Hopefully gonna get her on the pod.
uh But women having an opinion sounds very different from men having an opinion, but alsolike Jace has had female long form interviews.
Like Jace understands like there are women in the sport.
So I don't want this to get to like a tit for tat and then you have to pick sides becausewhat they're doing is so inherently different that we need both of them.
(17:18):
But I don't know that you've gotten so big that you get like a pass on it.
Here's what I will say about using your pass well.
If you are not, if you're in the mode of the traditional mode of media world and I can'ttell the difference between your content and another person's content, it's all crap.
So I feel like, especially when we get a good press day, there's...
(17:40):
I would say 90 % of the Moto media that's out there, and I'm not gonna tell you the oneson record that I think are killing it, it all looks the same.
It all looks the same, it all sounds the same, they're all using the same filmers, andit's all great, but I can't tell you who's is who's.
And if you're gonna differentiate your voice in this space, you gotta do the work ofasking the right questions, whether that's Hopper or Jace or Steve, period.
(18:04):
Well, you know, and go back to Steve as well, right?
Steve is, um, the work that he does at the races as a general whole.
Okay.
I have seen Steve at press conferences, right?
So, so I'm not going to say that he doesn't go to any, some of the bigger ones he's there,but you know, the after race ones, he's typically not there, but he's not a photographer.
(18:26):
So he's not taking pictures or, you know, for felled because everything's owned by failed.
And when you're a photographer,
It's, all owned by Phil, but so he's not taking pictures.
He's not doing press conferences.
He's really not doing anything for.
Felt entertainment and, the promoters it's all for pulp MX and you know, Steve's followingis massive, right?
(18:54):
It's massive.
It's the biggest in the sport and that's not deniable.
And Steve does a lot of great things for privateers and everything else.
So.
Again, he's a pioneer and I think that, I think he's got a little bit of a special spotcarved out in this sport for him.
And I'm okay with it.
I'm okay with it.
It kind of sucks sometimes because at one point I decided I was going to go to someinterviews instead of do the press conference.
(19:22):
Somebody said something to me about it.
And so that I was expected to be at the press conference and not do interviews.
So.
Then it's like back to, well, how come this guy, you know, but that's, that's, you know,in the heat of the moment, you're not thinking about scheme of things in the grand scheme
of things.
Steve's special.
I don't know what else to Like, like he's special.
(19:44):
And nobody is complaining about the amount of content Steve is giving us.
Like nobody's saying like, your stuff sucks.
Like, no, it's great.
Like you give us five hours of content in one evening every week.
Like that's incredible.
But yeah, I mean, he is the largest player in the game and know, Jace is getting up there.
So I'm not gonna say that he's not, but it's inherently, it's so different, you know?
(20:08):
So if like,
If Steve doesn't want to go to the press conferences, fine, cool.
But yeah, to Jace's point, like, that's a pretty hot take for someone to say that'sunprofessional and like what pays for your tall ceilings is Moto Media.
Whew, we beat that one to death.
So moving on.
um I want to talk starting blocks and we're to talk starting blocks because one, I want toand two, because this is the perfect place to do it because I don't race.
(20:33):
So Dan, you can take it from like a legit perspective, but there's a picture going around.
um of Deegan's starting gates.
I'm looking at it right now, his starting blocks.
And it's like, it is like zip tied to the gate and he's pushing forward.
I mean, it's, I understand the physics, our physics thing.
I get it.
But also, Benny Bloss uses them and he's like nine feet tall.
(20:54):
So at what point are the starting blocks too much?
That's my question.
Well, I mean, the starting blocks, right.
We're originally for riders that were too short to reach the ground, right.
To um that's really bad children and stuff like that.
Right.
So they've, they've transformed into this, um, utilizing them for a starting technique.
(21:16):
Obviously the faster you can get your next shift is, is important, right.
Um, faster that you can get that next shift and get your weight.
distributed where it needs to be, the better off you're going to have, you know, thebetter off you're going to be on the, on the start.
And that's what the guys are using the starting blocks for.
(21:37):
If you notice that they can essentially keep both feet on the foot pegs at the same time,when the gate drops, they can immediately shift their weight and immediately grab a shift
without having to pull their legs back up onto the peg.
So
um Maybe I'm being dramatic.
No one's ever accused me of that.
(21:58):
But it just seems like it's taking some of the finesse out of it.
Like I think back to like Shorty.
mean, Andrew Short is like the, you know, the whole shot king.
I'm like, I don't remember Andrew Short having 18 inches of starting blocks.
Like, I mean, maybe I just wasn't paying close enough attention, but it just seems like atsome point, like you're losing the art of the start.
(22:19):
And I feel that way about Honda too.
Like whatever Honda's got going on, like it's
You can't compete with it.
And that's, know that's the way it's mapped and things like that, but it just seems likein something that's so crucial to start, this seems like, like we've over engineered it.
That's kind of sad.
We, we have, yes, when they went to the great starts and, uh, the starting blocks and youcan even argue the, uh, the whole shot devices, God bless works.
(22:48):
Eric's my buddy.
So I don't know, not going to talk too much crap on devices, but that you've lost the artof getting a good start.
Right.
But like you said, there's Michael, S C can go out there tomorrow.
With no starting blocks, no nothing and probably get a whole shot, right?
(23:08):
There's a, there's a link to it, but it's, I don't know.
And here's the other thing.
Everybody has the same opportunity.
You have a Mark using starting blocks and you've got Benny Bloss using starting blocks.
You know what I mean?
So everybody has the same opportunity to use the same equipment and it's up to them toutilize whatever is available to them.
(23:32):
I will say this.
You don't see any other people in the, you mentioned Honda, Honda incredible starts tochance.
I'm as good, uh, good starts on the two 50 jet Hunter are always out front every motor inthe four fifties.
If you notice they're the only ones in the pits that are actually doing practice starts ona great in their pit stall.
(23:55):
And this goes back to, this goes back to, was having a discussion with one of the vetriders.
here in town and we were talking about starts and, and vet racing.
One of the reasons I don't race much anymore is I'm deathly afraid alley of the start.
Like I'm afraid of a first turn pile up.
am too old to hit the deck and go mumbling with, you know, 250 pound motorcycles.
(24:21):
I'm too old.
So I would need to practice starts to ensure that I could get a good start and get awayfrom the mayhem.
Right.
We see so many.
even kids, not even vets, but local racers, even to the, through the pros.
How many starts do you think a guy like Logan car now does now?
(24:41):
I don't know.
He may do a ton, but probably not a lot.
Right.
Why has put so much emphasis on riding the track and not the start.
The start is the only place that you have an opportunity to pass 22 or 21 other guys insuper cross.
39 other guys in motocross.
(25:04):
Why is there not more emphasis on the start?
And I think that's why you're seeing guys like Deegan doing something different withstarting blocks, guys like doing different with the starting blocks.
um You've got guys like Coop that are, that are positioning themselves on the great tomiss the rut.
Like the start is the most critical thing of the race.
(25:24):
And so you're seeing more people put an emphasis on that moving forward, but
Again, you see HRC guys doing practice starts in the pits.
Nobody else is doing it.
They're the ones that are getting out front.
So I don't know if there's something to it, but I don't think it's a coincidence.
I don't think so either.
I do think that there's something different in at least Jett's brain, maybe Hunter's, thathe sees things in slow motion.
(25:49):
I'm convinced.
And Kenny too.
Kenny's the same way.
I think that their brain is literally processing things in slow motion and they can adjustas it's happening.
And so starts is obviously a huge part of that.
So yeah, I think it's a strange one.
I'm curious to see how it develops.
I feel like it's going to be one of these things that just like at the end of this, know,at the end of...
(26:10):
the discussion, they're going to have like all the bolt-ons, no pun intended, you know,and we're to have like basically like this new compound at the starting gate every single
time because riders and their mechanics have figured out how to, you know, push forwardand have a launch control on all, you know, we're going to have, we're going have rockets
on the star gate.
That's where we're going to be.
So yeah, that's one.
we're going to, you're, there.
(26:30):
guarantee it, Ali, there's going to be a gazillion YouTube comments on this below this,this podcast of the metal rates, get rid of the starting hooks, get rid of it's not going
to happen.
So there's no reason to debate it.
There's no reason to fight it.
It's never going to happen.
Everybody needs to adapt.
Everybody needs to take the, what is available to all those writers and utilize them.
(26:54):
to their best ability to get the best start for them.
Amen.
Amen.
While we're talking about equipment being the same, I'm setting you up for failure here.
What the hell is going on with Prados, Cowie?
mean I'm sorry I teed you up but what is going on Akaui what's happening?
I don't know what you're talking about.
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It's a great bike.
Hey, I'm not a cowy hater, like not at all.
And I was not a Prado fan until he came here and we'll get to the thirst trap.
I'm so proud of my girls, my Roamies, but like it is noticeably different.
Like at one point he's like 90 seconds off the pace.
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Like it can't all be him.
So like what's going on?
So the Kawasaki 450 is one of the slower motorcycles in stock form, right?
Which means it's going to require more work to make horsepower.
You gotta think that.
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AC was, AC was started on this generation, you know, actually they started, but, um, ACkind of developed this generation bike, right.
And the team obviously couldn't give AC a lot of power, right.
Because of his arm.
Um, Jason was kind of like in and out.
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Uh, now, this is the second year on this motorcycle.
This is the second year on this generation Kawasaki, but so you had AC.
You had Jason and that's, that's really it.
You've got some guys over in, in, uh, Europe, like febri is running that motorcycle and isactually doing awesome, but there's, it's no secret.
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The bike is down on power.
And so in super cross, you can get away with that a little bit.
Um, outdoors, you can't, you need, you need raw horsepower from what I understand, um,before Prado signed with Kawasaki, there was an expectation set that
He needs a fast bike.
Like he needs, he needs all the power that he can get.
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And that that's what he had in Europe with KTM.
And so obviously he raised super cross, uh, limited before he got injured.
Bike was fine super cross form, but now outdoors, they're, they're, they're needing power.
There was this big talk about the scoop tire and you know, they weren't going to give themthe scoop tire because.
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He wasn't ready for it and it wasn't ready to run up front and this and that, whatever.
But the bike's down on power.
He straight up said it.
He wants more power.
Cowie is going to need to figure out how to put more horsepower in that motorcycle.
When you're, when you're a guy like Jorge Prado and you are a world champion and you'reused to running up front in your motorcycle, that kills your confidence.
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Cause whether or not he thinks he can run up front or not, he simply can't because
The bike doesn't have the power.
He needs the power.
like, you know, you'll look at Deborah, he's, you know, I don't know if he's leading thepoints right now in MXGP, but he's either first or second, he's right up there.
He's making the bike work because he does need the power, the way his riding style is.
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He doesn't need the power to use as the finesse and the handling motorcycle to run upfront.
Prado needs the power.
so.
Cowie needs to find the power.
This is what I worry about is Cowie historically has been.
a team that has put these riders in a box.
It's like, is what you have to work with.
You got to work with it.
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If they can't find the horsepower in that motorcycle for Prado.
I'm not certain that he will be there for the three year term that he assigned for.
That was kind of my next thought.
So he signed a three year deal.
This is year one, two.
This is year two, right?
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Like what's your, this is year one.
gosh, this has been the longest year ever.
Supercross.
So even in his like hot takes and like he's been very like F1-esque about the bike beinglike the bike, not as brutal as F1, but like the bike is underpowered.
I need more power.
He's been very transparent.
I don't know if that's more.
comfortability and where he sits in his contract, like he feels like he can be critical ofit.
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Or if it's more just like European and you know, they're, are generally morestraightforward and honest about their bikes.
They're not, you know, as butt kissy about manufacturers as we are.
Um, but I'm with you.
Like what if he decides he doesn't want to stay for three years because he knows he's notgoing to be competitive.
Meanwhile, your only fallback to develop the bike is going to be Chase Sexton.
Like, yikes.
Like I'm not, that scares me.
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problem also, right.
That's a potential problem because I think chase likes the power as well.
So they need to fix this.
I think that they will fix this.
think they will address this.
they've got a lot of money, wrapped up in Jorge Prado.
I think that the bike has got the potential to make the power, you know, they've, they've,they've got excellent technicians, engine technicians to get that power.
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I think they'll find the power for him.
And, and I think it's going to be important for Chase Sexton as well.
So.
I don't see this as a complete bomb.
I think that I love the transparency that Prado is bringing with the motorcycle because heknows he has a three year contract.
He doesn't want to ride a green turd and God, somebody's going to clip that.
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just had a green turd.
He's not going to want to ride a green turd for three years.
Right?
That being said, Ali, personally, I love the motorcycle because it is mellow even in stockform.
Even when you put a pipe and stuff on it, there's some things you could do to
To get some power up for, for me, for a vet guy, it's perfect.
How he needs to lean into that.
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Like, hey, you're, you know, super cross bike, if the KX like is not, if it's not livingup to it, but you can market the stock form, like there's still value in that.
But I'll tell you also knowing your value.
Posted a thirst trap.
He knows what he's doing.
Also, if you're not following the Prado and little sister dynamic, they are strange to me.
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I don't know if it's European.
They are strangely like close.
We'll just put it that way.
But go follow Prado's little sister who also used to date Jet.
So anytime that Jet and Prado were in the same frame, huh?
Yeah.
Yeah, before Dylan.
So anytime they're in the same frame, I'm like, what are they talking about?
What are they talking about?
But anyhow, he posts a little thirst trap.
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And I'm so proud of my romies because, first of all, I had to comment on it.
I had to.
Like, it was just so obvious.
a number of my girls who I've become friends with were like, I saw it.
And I immediately ran to Real Housewives of Modo because I knew you were going to commenton it.
But I do have to say.
I did not follow Prado at all until he was at the States.
Like I was, I knew he existed.
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I, I generally I've loved KTM because I love Ryan Dungey, the Wheaties boxes back there.
Um, so I was excited when he came over, I was like, yeah, cool.
If it's not on KTM, great.
Whatever.
It's obviously it's not going to be on Honda because Honda's on lockdown for forever.
Um, but if you're wanting to build your value off the bike, I think that he must belistening to my show and saying, you need to tap into the power of the female demographic.
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So shout out Jorge Prado and your thirst trap.
I told you that's Sabrina's guy.
Like she is in love with that 24 year old.
Spaniard.
spaniard specimen.
Hola, hola and adios, because that's my soul leaving my body when I see those posts likethat.
I'm just like, God, it's just content gold.
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So yeah, follow along if you want hot takes on unprocessed thirst traps.
yep, that's when you know you're getting the alley side of things.
Dan's like, tap, I'm out.
But I'm tapping you back in for this one, because this one I can't figure out.
I think I've got my thoughts figured out on it, but last thought.
WSX finally announces their dates.
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We have seen them.
We commented a couple of weeks ago on Real Housewives of Modipod that their logo lookslike Stitch from Lilo and Stitch.
You can't unsee it now, so go to my profile if you want to see it.
But the Australian round, which, I mean, WSX was, it has changed hands.
It was Adam Bailey's baby.
Adam Bailey is based out of uh Australia.
WSX and OzX have the same weekend in November.
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And I saw that and I immediately was like, no, those aren't the same dates.
And then our boy Ozzy Steve,
posted a screenshot with both of the calendars overlapped.
It's the same damn weekend.
And I'm like, your country is not big enough for that.
And two, your Moto scene is not big enough for that.
So WTF are you thinking?
Like you don't, there's not enough to split.
So I don't know, am I off based on that?
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And just like, it's creating, I mean, I know they didn't go with the intention of creatinga necessary drama, but like, if you follow Moto and you follow OzX open and you follow WSX
and you see those dates, you're thinking.
What the flip?
Like.
It's a, it's a huge confliction.
It is not, it's not good for the Australian motocross scene at all.
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All said, the market is not big enough to support two major events like that on the sameday.
Um, it's, it's bad for everybody.
It's bad for the fans.
It's bad for the riders.
They're going to have to choose on, you know, know WSX there's, know, they havecontractual obligations with the teams, you know, but, um, Oz X open, you know, you've got
guys that race Oz X open.
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That could potentially be wild cards for WSX.
it's just not, it's not good for anybody.
I would suspect Ali that there will be a date change on one of those series.
I, it's not sustainable.
is not both series and both promoters are going to lose money because of this.
And it's not a good business decision.
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So I think that you'll see a date change in one of those, one of those events.
I think so too.
And honestly, like you've got to think that Oz X and Adam have the Lawrence's and like ifis there a bigger draw since Chad for Ozzy Moto fans in Hunter and Jet?
No.
So I think that honestly like Oz X has the upper hand to play the Lawrence card.
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But like look at this year, like I remember when the schedule came out this year and wehad the four week run in the Northeast, which like weather aside, I was really curious to
see the numbers on that because I was like, are we going to split fans?
Like, are you going to have
know, people from like, let's take Pennsylvania.
Are they going to go to Pittsburgh, but not Philly or whatever?
Um, like, what if you just move one of them back a weekend?
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Like the numbers for us were great.
Like I was shocked.
I mean, even Foxborough, there was a dumpster fire that I went to.
I shouldn't say fire dumpster popsicle because it was so cold.
Like people are going to go to it, but if they're literally at the same time, they're onthe same weekends, like what are you thinking?
So that was just one that had me scratch my head.
I was like, that's not cool.
It's not cool.
So.
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I don't know where they're at in relation to each other, like physical location.
Are they in the same city or close?
Are they one, like one on one side of the country?
Are on the other side of the country or?
Good point.
We need to look that up.
We look like dumb Americans that don't know our geography, but that's okay.
Yeah, Ozzy Steve could help us, I mean, even if, even if they are, If they're on this,this complete and, uh, different end of the spectrum, far as location wise, it's still bad
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for the sport.
It's just, you're going to have one set of fans watching one race.
It's just, it's stupid.
Yep, I think so too.
I do, but to end on a happy note, I really feel like speaking of Ozzy's, mean, gosh,they're kicking our butts.
Like I'm looking at Caden Manier.
He looked awesome.
Charlie Cannon, girl, girl Charlie.
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People are like, who's he?
And I'm like, girl, it's a girl.
She's killing it.
ah We've gotten a little bit of like old Jet back recently, like playful Jet.
He was talking about, you know, not being able to grow a beard and like thinking Eli'sbeard is gnarly and like taking the camera and putting it on the Tomax and just like
laughing during the press conference and like.
First of all, we're not gonna talk about the stuff going on outside of it.
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Like all of the legal stuff that's going on, cool.
That's their thing.
But it doesn't mean that it doesn't affect you and you're coming back from like an injury.
So the fact that A, Jett is like dominating, but B, that he's happy and that he's can putall of that aside and still like bring some of his personality back.
Like I'm praying that this like old goofy Jett like sticks because I think we've gottenbuttoned up Jett.
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I think we've gotten professional Jett and I like version A better.
Have you noticed a difference between, like at least in Moto, maybe not in Supercross,because he was injured so early, but in Motocross, have you noticed a happy jet?
Yeah.
I, yeah, he's definitely even the last couple of weeks, he's been a little bit happier.
Um, I don't know if you guys follow, vital MX, but Michael Lindsay got some very goodshots of the, of the bike.
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made some chassis changes, um, added some gusseting in the chassis up towards the headtube that they did on the previous generation Honda as well.
So, um, I think that makes a difference.
And you know, when the bike's good, you're happier.
You're, you're it's.
you're going to get the result easier, right?
Safer.
And you're just overall happier.
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So I think with the bike coming around, you're going to start seeing the happy jet again.
So.
Man, a happy jet is dangerous because right now I honestly think like I don't think he's100 % and he's still going one, one, one, one, one.
Like, I mean, I'm not, well, except for one, one, one, one, one, one, three, one.
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But.
go 21 in one?
I don't know, man.
To take one from Steve.
I don't know, man.
I don't know.
AP looks great.
I think AP is on the upswing.
Eli looks great.
Although Eli's making me nervous.
Like somebody said, he's already taken a page from Jay's KTM book and tucking the front.
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And I'm like, shut up.
I'm not ready to go there yet.
But I don't know.
I don't think so.
I'm going to speak it into existence.
I don't think he goes.
21 and one, I don't want to see 21 and one.
I don't want to see Mr.
Boring again.
We saw it last year.
It was amazing.
When we got, when we got on the second half, like the countdown from the, you know, 11modos, like I was like, yes, I want to see the perfect season.
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So I can say I watched it live, but I don't want to see it again.
I want to see a dog fight, but this is what bothers me is that I don't think that he's ahundred percent and he's still managing.
Like other than that one moto where he sat back and he was like, I'll take my third.
He has more in the tank and he's, he's managing it when people get close when AP, whenEli.
And so I'm like, if this isn't 100 % and he's still got stuff left in the tank, like we'rein for a good season.
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So I think it's all positive.
the bike is only going to get better and he's only going to get stronger.
So I don't want to see it either because I want to see AP, I want to see AP get one.
I really do.
It's going to be tough.
It's going to be tough.
And if we're talking perfect seasons, ah I'm just glad that Deegans is not there.
uh I could not handle Deegans.
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I can't.
I kind of wanted him to see, I wanted to see him do it, but I don't hate the kid.
I don't either, I don't hate him, but I just couldn't have listened to an undefeatedseason at the end of it.
I just think I just would have been like turn off the TV early, I can't do it.
So I'm just glad we don't have to have that conversation.
So we will continue to watch Deegan and his 18 inches of starting gate and startingblocks.
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That's fine, I'm gonna keep a close eye on that.
uh yeah, the sport isn't a good place.
We've got a couple areas where we can take some major strides, Moda Media, where westarted.
ah
Gosh, between having Eli way longer than we thought we would, Jett and Hunter being onanother level, high little thumbs up, and Deegan now, like we're solid.
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I mean, we've got some great personalities.
Like, let's not even talk about Cole Davies coming back.
my gosh, I love Cole.
So we're gonna have Cole next year.
I mean, gosh, 2026 is already setting up to be epic.
So I'll cool my Jets, no pun intended.
I will enjoy Motocross this year, but we're in a good place.
We are, you know, it's kind of crazy.
You ever think about like, you know, when Stu and RC were here and Chad, and you're like,man, this is never, it's never going to be like this.
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And then next wave of guys came in and you're like, my God, it's so good.
And then, ah, it's never going to be better than the Dungee RV day.
And here we are again.
It's like, it's keeps elevating, which is incredible.
Yeah, I do think, this will be our last point to put a bow on it.
uh In comparing us to F1, there's a lot faster moves between manufacturers.
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mean, people get cut in the middle of the season.
Liam Lawson looking at you, not even the middle of season, you make it like two races.
But in our sport, you see the rider so much.
In F1, they get in the truck, get in the car and the helmet's on, you don't know who itis.
So you have this connection, this like emotional connection to these writers becausethey're more human.
(43:38):
So if we can just tell those stories, mean, not to, uh what am I thinking of?
I know.
Original conversational moto podcast.
DMX, DMXS, was like, don't say DCMX, all the acronyms.
uh That's what keeps you invested.
And I think that we're starting to come around on that in.
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The stories are the people.
doesn't matter how fast the race car goes.
It doesn't matter how fast the dirt bike is.
It doesn't matter what manufacturer is winning.
Like I want to cheer for AP because I watched Detroit.
You know, I watched him lose that one.
ah So yeah, I think we're going to be fine.
I think we're going to be all right.
ah But we got to keep telling those stories.
And that's what we're here for.
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The biggest thing is, we all, we all want to see our sport grow.
Right.
But do we really, I mean, we're one of the only sports where our professional athletes areaccessible by the general public on a race day.
Get in the pits.
Anybody.
It's, the super cross fan fest is incredible.
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That doesn't exist anywhere else.
So do we really want to get bigger where that changes?
I don't know, it's an interesting thought for sure because I look at the growth that theDeegans have brought the sport for better for worse and I'm like, I don't know that I like
growing in that way because I don't know that I like those fans.
I don't know that I like the Deegan fans that didn't follow Moto, that didn't followBrian.
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There are Hayden Deegan fans that have come to the sport through their channel that Ithink are just Hayden fans and that's fine, that's fine.
You can have your rider, but they also, don't feel like we're like the core of the corefor Moto.
So it's growth in the right direction.
It's not growth at all costs.
Like I know people like who are die hard F1 fans, my husband's best friend.
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And he was like, I've never watched a single episode of Drive to Survive because I thinkit's you know, it's fluff or whatever.
And they don't like Drive to Survive because it's like, you know, it's ruined the sport.
It's brought in people who aren't hardcore.
So I think there's a delicate line we can walk there with growth for sure.
um man, having some more transparency and not...
(45:47):
Not arguing about who's right in the Moto Media is probably not a good place to start.
Real quick, real quick before we go.
Last thing you said something about the fans, right?
What about these fans?
You've seen them on, I've seen them in person, but these fans that like stand on the sideof the track and scream and yell and flip the riders off and like, is it, are they that
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stupid?
Did they have too much to drink?
Like what goes through your mind as a fan and a person to act that way?
That's what I
embarrassing.
It is embarrassing.
ah I mean, I don't know.
They're probably the same guys that are coming for me and calling me the see you nextTuesday word and, you know, commenting on my body.
They're probably the same guys, but gosh, it's embarrassing.
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Like, and you spent money to go to these races.
Are you talking about the one that's leaning over the fence at Paula flipping off jet?
Like.
there was a guy, uh, it, um, Glendale that was right in front of me in, industry seatingas well, which was, which was, uh, I'm telling you right now that happens in industry
seating is wild.
Like, I don't know how the hell these people get these tickets, but they should be very,very embarrassed the way they act in general, but, um, especially in industry seating, but
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no, this guy's like, he had this hard on for RJ Hampshire.
Like he's standing.
F you are J he's got his fingers F you from like row 30.
Do you think he's him?
Do you think RJ gives a shit?
Absolutely.
Like you're you look like a freaking idiot.
I just I don't even know what goes through somebody's mind to even do that.
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I just don't get it.
Going out of your way to be hateful in a sport that crosses so many barriers, gender,political lines, socioeconomic.
Let's talk about who's gonna buy a cowee versus who's gonna buy a Ducati.
You will buy both, but that's a bad example.
But why can't we all come together and like the sport for the sake of the sport?
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There's not a single rider.
that I would do that too.
Like that I would hang over and like flip them off.
Like, first of all, that's just embarrassing, but like, I don't personally hate a writerbecause of, I don't even know what, like, what do you hate Jet for?
Like, okay, it's episode 14.
Let's talk about Dylan for one second.
Like the people that booed Dylan after he took out what, Craig or A-Mart?
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There was an A-Mart wreck or Craig was on A-Mart.
Okay.
my gosh, the hatred because of that.
Like, I'm like, okay, maybe that was, you know, America versus France, but like,
I would never, like I would never be an asshole to a writer.
Like this writer is literally risking their life to entertain you.
Period.
I'm not going to lie.
was pretty upset with Juju and RJ both for their nasty move on my guy Seth for the 250.
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But I would never go up to either one of them, like to their pit and like flip them offand F you like that.
just, that just boggles my mind to get to a point that you would act that way, you know?
I mean, I commented on the episode after Salt Lake City, people were going after Ashley,RJ's wife, like in her comments being like, how could you be married to him or some
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ridiculous comment?
And I was like, you went out of your way to put that on RJ's wife's profile.
Like that just disgusts me.
So if you're one of those fans, like kindly, we try not to use cuss words here because mykids watch them.
They also see me now on YouTube and they're like, mom, but if you're one of those fans,kindly fuck all the way off.
Fuck all the way off.
I agree.
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Oh, mic drop.
That'll be that'll be what we leave you with.
Don't be one of those fans.
Be be a good person.
It's not too much to ask these days.
So.
saying Ali that those people are watching this podcast, but Hey, maybe it'll Hey, if itwas just one idiot, I'm cool with that.
We did our.
Yep.
(49:47):
I think so too.
Well, you guys loved episode one with Dan.
um So Ruts and Rumbles will continue for the foreseeable future.
um If you guys have feedback, good, bad, or otherwise, ah give me follow on RealHousewives Moto on Instagram.
We're to be putting these on the YouTube.
That's where all the dumpster fire comments are.
I'm looking forward to some dumpster fire comments.
Like, come at me with the unhinged content, because ah I think I enjoy the clap back alittle bit too much.
(50:13):
Give us a follow there.
you don't follow Dan, Dan, where can they find you and DCMX tools?
Where can we find you?
at DCMX tools on Instagram and at Dan Colvin 633 on Instagram.
There you go.
Dan, every once in a while, Dan will post something that's not green.
So, and it's definitely not a green turd.
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Well, cool.
Thanks for chatting today, Dan.
And uh we'll watch High Point and see what spicy thoughts we have next week.
All right.
Bye, guys.
Hi friends and welcome back to another episode of Real Housewives of Modo.
Somehow I convinced this goober, Toolman Dan, to come back on with me.
Dan, what are you doing here?
have no idea.
I am not a housewife.
Like we have already determined this.
I have no idea how I keep ending up back on this show.
It's because everybody loves you.
Everybody loves your takes.
And you know, you got some knowledge, you dropped some nuggies and we're back for roundtwo.
(00:23):
So here we are.
Like a regular thing, you think?
I mean, I'm game if you're game.
So, so much so that we've been tossing out some names.
I was a fan of the Brappy app, but I get that that's way too feminine and what we're here,we're balancing the masculine with the feminine.
So we're kind of, we're throwing out the idea of Ruts and Rumbles, which I like.
(00:45):
Yeah.
I liked?
was like something Torque.
was like kind of tool related in a way.
Torque talk, yeah that's...
Torque Talk.
Yeah, and Dirt Don't Lie, but that sounded a little too TMZ for us.
I mean, got TMD, we don't need TMZ.
So you can be an honorary housewife.
Housewife Mandan.
housewife.
my God.
(01:06):
That sounds terrible.
actually never, I didn't get any hate at all for being on the show.
Like nobody called me a pussy or anything like that.
Like everybody was cool.
So they must be good with it.
I, as they should, I mean, I thought it was so fun.
I had people who were like, my gosh, you sound like you and Dan like are real friends.
I'm like, we are like in real life.
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I like Dan.
I like Dan's family.
Like they're good people moving on.
So yeah, I think we'll continue to do this because you know, there's no real like male,female moto media out there right now.
Knock on wood and know, 10 more might pop up tomorrow, but we'll, go with it until, until,know, until we say otherwise.
So here we are.
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Definitely a unique dynamic and saying this on record now, Ali is we are the first, thepioneers of the male female moto podcast episodes.
don't know.
We started this.
We did.
We could have started it like years ago, but I just didn't get my act together.
(02:08):
mean, Dan and I both work full-time jobs.
We are big people.
make money outside of Moto.
Honestly, if you want to make money in Moto, let's have a chat.
Not the sport to do it in, but ah we're 14 episodes.
This is episode 14.
So we're 14 episodes into this little shindig.
ah So we're Cole Seeley, we're Dylan Ferenes, we're K-Dub.
(02:30):
Take your pick.
It's always K-Dub.
K-Dub, excuse me, my first Arlington race, which would have been 2011 or 2012, nobodyprepped me for the transfer.
So like the lights go out and he's cutting from lane to lane and I'm like, someone's gonnadie.
Like nobody warned me.
That was so cool.
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uh, cause I do the coach Rob podcast as well.
The vet show, uh, for all the listeners out there, I do a podcast with coach Rob.
It's called the vet show.
It's dedicated or directed towards vet riders like myself.
there's obviously a big group of us, but we do the same thing every month or is, you know,we like this month was episode 14.
So we, we always highlight a rider or somebody in the sport.
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And of course it was Kato, right?
um
And that was, that was like, the talk is like the transfers, like he is, but he's knownfor so much more in the sport than just the transfers.
But I mean, if you witnessed the transfers like in person, they were incredible.
I mean, incredible doesn't even begin to describe it.
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Like they're terrifying for one thing.
um I mean, in Arlington, like it's so big.
I would love to have seen the transfers at Glendale because that's the big giant stadium,but it's so big and it's so dark.
you're like, not only is that scary to like just ride a dirt bike, but now you're going togo backwards on some of the rhythms and into another one.
like, I'm too paranoid for that.
So yeah, I loved it, but I was always like holding my breath and like, you know, dramaticAllie.
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enough staying in your own lane.
ah Transitioning from lane to lane and backwards to forwards.
Yeah, I'm good.
Thanks.
That was unique.
So, okay.
This will be what we've decided.
The people have spoken, the people being us.
This will be dedicated to K-Dub.
But cool that you and Coach Rob are on 14 too.
So if you're tracking along, go over and give the Coach Rob podcast a follow as well.
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us, Ali, because you're already on.
We've only been doing this for what?
How many months now?
Uh, whenever Daytona was, So, April.
That's just because I like to talk, you know?
So I'm like, here we are.
So things I want to talk about today, I gave you the heads up on this one.
um The gypsy and pulp commentary on Hopper.
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Like, where do you want to start?
So I'll say this, and then I'm going to hand it over to you.
Woke up to the tweet or the Instagram comment from Jace to Steve about...
the question on Twitter and him saying he hates Twitter.
It was so confusing, but what's your take?
Take the floor to him, Andian.
Where you want me to start?
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Like, I don't even know.
There's so much to unpack in this whole thing.
Like I could give you my point of view from the whole thing.
I could give you my experience from being a person of the media.
can, I don't know.
Where do want me to go?
Let's start with the question.
What did you think when Johnny asked AP the question?
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So initially I thought that um it was, there's some talk about being disrespectful, right?
ah If you're a fan of the sport like we are, okay, we have all known that um Eli has beentalking to KTM, I think the deal's done at this point, but we all know that, right?
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But if you're a general,
Which I would think that most of us, like you and I, and then our listeners follow thesport close enough where they're, they're, you know, they're following people on social
media and whatnot.
But then you've got the group of people that don't follow stuff on social media, right?
But you would only see a clip like that on social media.
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So I wouldn't really touch like just that, you know, the average person, if you will,watching NBC.
So when I look at it from that point of view, I don't think that his
His question was disrespectful.
It's not like he was breaking news through the moto industry.
So I'll put that to bed.
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One of the things that I liked about the question about the whole situation as a person ofthe media, I did those press conferences, right?
Mm-hmm.
In your polo, in your polo.
In my, was the only one in the world.
I always looked the most professional and I always looked and acted the part.
So start there.
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But when you are, when you are, say you're, you're with vital MX or you're with race,you're with one of these big media outlets, right?
You are somewhat handcuffed to what you can ask.
And the reason I say that is it's not necessarily coming down from Feld or anybody.
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directing the press conference.
Yes, there's, there's been times that I've heard people have been talked to aboutquestions asked, but the biggest issue is that if you are a media member and you ask a
question that is not liked by a writer or a team or a team manager or a manufacturer, youare no longer welcome around their truck.
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Team members are not going to talk to you.
Writers are not going to talk to you.
personnel, know, you're just, you're going to be kind of blackballed.
Therefore you cannot get content for whatever media outlet that you're working with.
So a lot of people get upset about, know, how, how come the media doesn't ask goodquestions and how do you, know, it's, it's BS you, know, you look at these other sports
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and these, these media personnel or, or asking these tough questions and whatnot.
It's, it's simply that, right.
And our sport is not big enough.
to overcome things like that, right?
It's F1.
um So everybody just tiptoes around what they ask.
Johnny Hopper.
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Johnny Hopper has a day job.
He does not need to make money from Moto Media.
I think it's his passion.
It's a passion project and it was similar to me, right?
I did not make money from this industry.
I have a day job.
I have a side business.
uh
I'm not reliant.
If I don't have to be the cool guy in the pits, I don't, if somebody wants to talk to me,cool.
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they don't, that's cool too.
Like it doesn't, it never mattered to me.
And Johnny, I don't think it matters to him who he upset or if somebody felt like he's wasdisrespectful.
The end of the day, it, it's not going to affect his pocketbook.
oh
I just wanted to throw that out there.
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That question gets asked a lot.
You know, why, why we ask or or media ask soft questions and this and that, whatever.
That's why.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know, it's funny, Katie and I were kind of processing it a little bit before we wenton record earlier this week.
And I was like, I even feel like me as just a fan, a fan with a microphone, which forbetter or for worse, someone has allowed me to speak my truth on the internet about Moto.
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um Everyone is literally vying for the same dollar.
And I don't even mean that in like a rider respect.
I mean that literally everybody.
Like there's not enough money in the sport for everyone to have theirs.
It's very top heavy.
We know that.
And so yeah, on the media side, if you get blackballed by somebody, if it's a team, ifit's felled themselves, you're screwed.
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mean, you lose your media pass, it's gone.
um And I hate that.
think that, I think if we're gonna break out of kind of being the biggest small sport orthe smallest big sport, whatever way you wanna say it, um we gotta find the happy medium.
Because I do think that like, when people start talking about Hopper, like they're gonnaloop in Cooksy and there's a way to go about asking the hard questions that,
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don't piss off everybody.
Like you're always gonna piss off somebody, but I think there's a way to do it in such away that it doesn't piss off everyone.
Now asking AP, probably the smart way to go.
I was having conversations in my DMs that was like, what if it had been Chase?
What if it had been Juju?
To be like, what's it like to have Eli on your team next year, whatever.
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Like you would have gotten such a different response.
mean, AP just killed it.
Like he gave everybody what they wanted.
I mean, Eli is just sitting over there like,
I just I wanted to just zoom in and like get Eli's you know heart rate monitor and be likewhat's going on in there but yeah I do agree like I see it from both Steve and gypsy's
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side which will go up a level.
ah What was your your thought on math is saying that it was unprofessional because I thinkI disagree with that part.
I think it's, I think, I think I disagree with it as well.
Uh, again, it's, it's not a secret.
It is not a secret.
Yes.
Did it put AP kind of in the hot seat?
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Yeah.
I think, I think AP handled it, handled it well, but I don't think it's disrespectful.
I think that Hopper asked what the fans want to hear.
Want to hear it and Hopper nailed it.
Mm-hmm.
The fans are tired of hearing about, you know, Hey, you know, Eli, was your race?
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You know, you know, tired, you know, that people are over that they don't care.
They don't want to know.
So asking something.
Direct like the, Eli to KTM thing.
That's what the people want to know.
And AP could have said, I don't want to answer it.
Eli obviously didn't say a single word.
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uh
But it's it's transparency.
we need transparency in the sport.
Simple as that.
It's not secretive.
It's terrible.
Yeah, I hate the secretiveness.
I get it.
I mean, like you have to protect your assets and your dollars.
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But like at this point, like it's the worst kept secret in the world.
But when that happened, so it was post race press conference, which, you know, if you'renot watching, you know, switching from peacock to YouTube and being a weirdo and a diehard
like me and following it all over the interwebs, you're not going to catch it.
But now as it's rolling out, you know, in the clips and things like that, people are like,oh my gosh, like what's Jessica thinking?
Does Jessica want to move to Tallahassee?
And I'm like, or to Claremont.
I'm like, first of all,
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Tomax ain't moving anywhere.
If there's somebody that gets to say put it's the Tomax.
But these are the questions that like my female fans or my female listeners who are fansare asking.
Is there like, what is it like when, when your husband is asked what is Kendall Plessingerthinking when Erin gets that, you know, is she just sitting at home or, know, in the, in
the room being like, my mouth.
uh
because then it opens the door for other questions that we actually do want to know.
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Like, what are the discussions that Eli's having not about dollars and parts andsponsorships with KTM?
It's like, is KTM like, got to go to Baker's?
Like, is that on the table?
Like, I want to know, I want to know that.
I don't want to know like the, the perfectly quaffed media response.
ah So I don't think it was unprofessional at all.
We do need transparency in the sport.
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To Jace's take, which I'll read it.
So.
He said, I hate Twitter, but Pulpimx loves it.
So I'll pose this question there.
Why criticize someone for being unprofessional at a press conference you're not even at?
Pressers you're never at.
Hot take.
My hot take, this is Jace.
You got a press pass and you don't go to the press conferences.
Then you don't get a press pass.
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Johnny Hopper question was literally the only one I saw from this weekend.
Next weekend, Steve, why don't you grace the press conference with your presence and showus how it's done, tiger?
The tiger part killed me.
So I can, I can address that from, from my point of view, right.
Um, when I had a media pass for super cross, the expectation is, is if you have a mediapass, you are to be at the press conference.
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being said, like vital MX, they had, they've got multiple people at, at the race, right?
So they have one person in the press conference.
They have one person in the pits doing interviews and things like that.
Right.
That's fine.
But if you are a solo, if you are a solo media person for your outlet, you are expected tobe at the uh press conference.
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And I will say that this has come up in the past where I would sit in the pressconferences and ask questions and I would not be able to get writer interviews because
press conference and Steve is out getting interviews because that
That benefits Steve and Steve's comment for Pulpimx, right?
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It doesn't fit Feld in a roundabout way.
You can argue it does, right?
But, it's not Feld's content from the press conference.
So it's like there was, there's an expectation for, for the group, but then theexpectation is different for one individual.
With that being said, I, I'm not sure.
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That's not a good terminology.
Steve is kind of the pioneer, if you will, for Moto Media.
He's the one that broke us out into the podcasting.
He's the pioneer of that, right?
Does he get a special pass?
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Is it okay that he's treated differently than the rest?
I guess that's up to an opinion of anybody, right?
They can take that opinion.
And obviously Jace has that opinion of Steve, right?
So there's that.
ah
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I don't know where else to get from.
It's a tough one because as a fan, like, you, I shouldn't say you need, I need Gypsy, Ineed Pulp, I want both of them, but I also want people like Johnny to ask those questions.
So, but my paycheck doesn't depend on it.
And I get that.
And I hate that we're not big enough to, like I said in my real weeks ago, like make thepie bigger.
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We're not cutting slices of the same pie.
Make the pie bigger.
So I get it.
I don't like, don't, mean,
I already struggle with like the bro moto media content because literally like, you know,just this year is when I feel like female moto content creators have entered the space.
I'm not even talking about me.
I'm talking about like Michaela.
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I'm talking to Michaela on the bike.
Love her.
Hopefully gonna get her on the pod.
uh But women having an opinion sounds very different from men having an opinion, but alsolike Jace has had female long form interviews.
Like Jace understands like there are women in the sport.
So I don't want this to get to like a tit for tat and then you have to pick sides becausewhat they're doing is so inherently different that we need both of them.
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But I don't know that you've gotten so big that you get like a pass on it.
Here's what I will say about using your pass well.
If you are not, if you're in the mode of the traditional mode of media world and I can'ttell the difference between your content and another person's content, it's all crap.
So I feel like, especially when we get a good press day, there's...
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I would say 90 % of the Moto media that's out there, and I'm not gonna tell you the oneson record that I think are killing it, it all looks the same.
It all looks the same, it all sounds the same, they're all using the same filmers, andit's all great, but I can't tell you who's is who's.
And if you're gonna differentiate your voice in this space, you gotta do the work ofasking the right questions, whether that's Hopper or Jace or Steve, period.
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Well, you know, and go back to Steve as well, right?
Steve is, um, the work that he does at the races as a general whole.
Okay.
I have seen Steve at press conferences, right?
So, so I'm not going to say that he doesn't go to any, some of the bigger ones he's there,but you know, the after race ones, he's typically not there, but he's not a photographer.
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So he's not taking pictures or, you know, for felled because everything's owned by failed.
And when you're a photographer,
It's, all owned by Phil, but so he's not taking pictures.
He's not doing press conferences.
He's really not doing anything for.
Felt entertainment and, the promoters it's all for pulp MX and you know, Steve's followingis massive, right?
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It's massive.
It's the biggest in the sport and that's not deniable.
And Steve does a lot of great things for privateers and everything else.
So.
Again, he's a pioneer and I think that, I think he's got a little bit of a special spotcarved out in this sport for him.
And I'm okay with it.
I'm okay with it.
It kind of sucks sometimes because at one point I decided I was going to go to someinterviews instead of do the press conference.
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Somebody said something to me about it.
And so that I was expected to be at the press conference and not do interviews.
So.
Then it's like back to, well, how come this guy, you know, but that's, that's, you know,in the heat of the moment, you're not thinking about scheme of things in the grand scheme
of things.
Steve's special.
I don't know what else to Like, like he's special.
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And nobody is complaining about the amount of content Steve is giving us.
Like nobody's saying like, your stuff sucks.
Like, no, it's great.
Like you give us five hours of content in one evening every week.
Like that's incredible.
But yeah, I mean, he is the largest player in the game and know, Jace is getting up there.
So I'm not gonna say that he's not, but it's inherently, it's so different, you know?
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So if like,
If Steve doesn't want to go to the press conferences, fine, cool.
But yeah, to Jace's point, like, that's a pretty hot take for someone to say that'sunprofessional and like what pays for your tall ceilings is Moto Media.
Whew, we beat that one to death.
So moving on.
um I want to talk starting blocks and we're to talk starting blocks because one, I want toand two, because this is the perfect place to do it because I don't race.
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So Dan, you can take it from like a legit perspective, but there's a picture going around.
um of Deegan's starting gates.
I'm looking at it right now, his starting blocks.
And it's like, it is like zip tied to the gate and he's pushing forward.
I mean, it's, I understand the physics, our physics thing.
I get it.
But also, Benny Bloss uses them and he's like nine feet tall.
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So at what point are the starting blocks too much?
That's my question.
Well, I mean, the starting blocks, right.
We're originally for riders that were too short to reach the ground, right.
To um that's really bad children and stuff like that.
Right.
So they've, they've transformed into this, um, utilizing them for a starting technique.
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Obviously the faster you can get your next shift is, is important, right.
Um, faster that you can get that next shift and get your weight.
distributed where it needs to be, the better off you're going to have, you know, thebetter off you're going to be on the, on the start.
And that's what the guys are using the starting blocks for.
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If you notice that they can essentially keep both feet on the foot pegs at the same time,when the gate drops, they can immediately shift their weight and immediately grab a shift
without having to pull their legs back up onto the peg.
So
um Maybe I'm being dramatic.
No one's ever accused me of that.
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But it just seems like it's taking some of the finesse out of it.
Like I think back to like Shorty.
mean, Andrew Short is like the, you know, the whole shot king.
I'm like, I don't remember Andrew Short having 18 inches of starting blocks.
Like, I mean, maybe I just wasn't paying close enough attention, but it just seems like atsome point, like you're losing the art of the start.
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And I feel that way about Honda too.
Like whatever Honda's got going on, like it's
You can't compete with it.
And that's, know that's the way it's mapped and things like that, but it just seems likein something that's so crucial to start, this seems like, like we've over engineered it.
That's kind of sad.
We, we have, yes, when they went to the great starts and, uh, the starting blocks and youcan even argue the, uh, the whole shot devices, God bless works.
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Eric's my buddy.
So I don't know, not going to talk too much crap on devices, but that you've lost the artof getting a good start.
Right.
But like you said, there's Michael, S C can go out there tomorrow.
With no starting blocks, no nothing and probably get a whole shot, right?
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There's a, there's a link to it, but it's, I don't know.
And here's the other thing.
Everybody has the same opportunity.
You have a Mark using starting blocks and you've got Benny Bloss using starting blocks.
You know what I mean?
So everybody has the same opportunity to use the same equipment and it's up to them toutilize whatever is available to them.
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I will say this.
You don't see any other people in the, you mentioned Honda, Honda incredible starts tochance.
I'm as good, uh, good starts on the two 50 jet Hunter are always out front every motor inthe four fifties.
If you notice they're the only ones in the pits that are actually doing practice starts ona great in their pit stall.
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And this goes back to, this goes back to, was having a discussion with one of the vetriders.
here in town and we were talking about starts and, and vet racing.
One of the reasons I don't race much anymore is I'm deathly afraid alley of the start.
Like I'm afraid of a first turn pile up.
am too old to hit the deck and go mumbling with, you know, 250 pound motorcycles.
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I'm too old.
So I would need to practice starts to ensure that I could get a good start and get awayfrom the mayhem.
Right.
We see so many.
even kids, not even vets, but local racers, even to the, through the pros.
How many starts do you think a guy like Logan car now does now?
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I don't know.
He may do a ton, but probably not a lot.
Right.
Why has put so much emphasis on riding the track and not the start.
The start is the only place that you have an opportunity to pass 22 or 21 other guys insuper cross.
39 other guys in motocross.
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Why is there not more emphasis on the start?
And I think that's why you're seeing guys like Deegan doing something different withstarting blocks, guys like doing different with the starting blocks.
um You've got guys like Coop that are, that are positioning themselves on the great tomiss the rut.
Like the start is the most critical thing of the race.
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And so you're seeing more people put an emphasis on that moving forward, but
Again, you see HRC guys doing practice starts in the pits.
Nobody else is doing it.
They're the ones that are getting out front.
So I don't know if there's something to it, but I don't think it's a coincidence.
I don't think so either.
I do think that there's something different in at least Jett's brain, maybe Hunter's, thathe sees things in slow motion.
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I'm convinced.
And Kenny too.
Kenny's the same way.
I think that their brain is literally processing things in slow motion and they can adjustas it's happening.
And so starts is obviously a huge part of that.
So yeah, I think it's a strange one.
I'm curious to see how it develops.
I feel like it's going to be one of these things that just like at the end of this, know,at the end of...
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the discussion, they're going to have like all the bolt-ons, no pun intended, you know,and we're to have like basically like this new compound at the starting gate every single
time because riders and their mechanics have figured out how to, you know, push forwardand have a launch control on all, you know, we're going to have, we're going have rockets
on the star gate.
That's where we're going to be.
So yeah, that's one.
we're going to, you're, there.
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guarantee it, Ali, there's going to be a gazillion YouTube comments on this below this,this podcast of the metal rates, get rid of the starting hooks, get rid of it's not going
to happen.
So there's no reason to debate it.
There's no reason to fight it.
It's never going to happen.
Everybody needs to adapt.
Everybody needs to take the, what is available to all those writers and utilize them.
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to their best ability to get the best start for them.
Amen.
Amen.
While we're talking about equipment being the same, I'm setting you up for failure here.
What the hell is going on with Prados, Cowie?
mean I'm sorry I teed you up but what is going on Akaui what's happening?
I don't know what you're talking about.
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It's a great bike.
Hey, I'm not a cowy hater, like not at all.
And I was not a Prado fan until he came here and we'll get to the thirst trap.
I'm so proud of my girls, my Roamies, but like it is noticeably different.
Like at one point he's like 90 seconds off the pace.
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Like it can't all be him.
So like what's going on?
So the Kawasaki 450 is one of the slower motorcycles in stock form, right?
Which means it's going to require more work to make horsepower.
You gotta think that.
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AC was, AC was started on this generation, you know, actually they started, but, um, ACkind of developed this generation bike, right.
And the team obviously couldn't give AC a lot of power, right.
Because of his arm.
Um, Jason was kind of like in and out.
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Uh, now, this is the second year on this motorcycle.
This is the second year on this generation Kawasaki, but so you had AC.
You had Jason and that's, that's really it.
You've got some guys over in, in, uh, Europe, like febri is running that motorcycle and isactually doing awesome, but there's, it's no secret.
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The bike is down on power.
And so in super cross, you can get away with that a little bit.
Um, outdoors, you can't, you need, you need raw horsepower from what I understand, um,before Prado signed with Kawasaki, there was an expectation set that
He needs a fast bike.
Like he needs, he needs all the power that he can get.
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And that that's what he had in Europe with KTM.
And so obviously he raised super cross, uh, limited before he got injured.
Bike was fine super cross form, but now outdoors, they're, they're, they're needing power.
There was this big talk about the scoop tire and you know, they weren't going to give themthe scoop tire because.
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He wasn't ready for it and it wasn't ready to run up front and this and that, whatever.
But the bike's down on power.
He straight up said it.
He wants more power.
Cowie is going to need to figure out how to put more horsepower in that motorcycle.
When you're, when you're a guy like Jorge Prado and you are a world champion and you'reused to running up front in your motorcycle, that kills your confidence.
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Cause whether or not he thinks he can run up front or not, he simply can't because
The bike doesn't have the power.
He needs the power.
like, you know, you'll look at Deborah, he's, you know, I don't know if he's leading thepoints right now in MXGP, but he's either first or second, he's right up there.
He's making the bike work because he does need the power, the way his riding style is.
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He doesn't need the power to use as the finesse and the handling motorcycle to run upfront.
Prado needs the power.
so.
Cowie needs to find the power.
This is what I worry about is Cowie historically has been.
a team that has put these riders in a box.
It's like, is what you have to work with.
You got to work with it.
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If they can't find the horsepower in that motorcycle for Prado.
I'm not certain that he will be there for the three year term that he assigned for.
That was kind of my next thought.
So he signed a three year deal.
This is year one, two.
This is year two, right?
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Like what's your, this is year one.
gosh, this has been the longest year ever.
Supercross.
So even in his like hot takes and like he's been very like F1-esque about the bike beinglike the bike, not as brutal as F1, but like the bike is underpowered.
I need more power.
He's been very transparent.
I don't know if that's more.
comfortability and where he sits in his contract, like he feels like he can be critical ofit.
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Or if it's more just like European and you know, they're, are generally morestraightforward and honest about their bikes.
They're not, you know, as butt kissy about manufacturers as we are.
Um, but I'm with you.
Like what if he decides he doesn't want to stay for three years because he knows he's notgoing to be competitive.
Meanwhile, your only fallback to develop the bike is going to be Chase Sexton.
Like, yikes.
Like I'm not, that scares me.
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problem also, right.
That's a potential problem because I think chase likes the power as well.
So they need to fix this.
I think that they will fix this.
think they will address this.
they've got a lot of money, wrapped up in Jorge Prado.
I think that the bike has got the potential to make the power, you know, they've, they've,they've got excellent technicians, engine technicians to get that power.
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I think they'll find the power for him.
And, and I think it's going to be important for Chase Sexton as well.
So.
I don't see this as a complete bomb.
I think that I love the transparency that Prado is bringing with the motorcycle because heknows he has a three year contract.
He doesn't want to ride a green turd and God, somebody's going to clip that.
(32:19):
just had a green turd.
He's not going to want to ride a green turd for three years.
Right?
That being said, Ali, personally, I love the motorcycle because it is mellow even in stockform.
Even when you put a pipe and stuff on it, there's some things you could do to
To get some power up for, for me, for a vet guy, it's perfect.
How he needs to lean into that.
(32:39):
Like, hey, you're, you know, super cross bike, if the KX like is not, if it's not livingup to it, but you can market the stock form, like there's still value in that.
But I'll tell you also knowing your value.
Posted a thirst trap.
He knows what he's doing.
Also, if you're not following the Prado and little sister dynamic, they are strange to me.
(33:00):
I don't know if it's European.
They are strangely like close.
We'll just put it that way.
But go follow Prado's little sister who also used to date Jet.
So anytime that Jet and Prado were in the same frame, huh?
Yeah.
Yeah, before Dylan.
So anytime they're in the same frame, I'm like, what are they talking about?
What are they talking about?
But anyhow, he posts a little thirst trap.
(33:21):
And I'm so proud of my romies because, first of all, I had to comment on it.
I had to.
Like, it was just so obvious.
a number of my girls who I've become friends with were like, I saw it.
And I immediately ran to Real Housewives of Modo because I knew you were going to commenton it.
But I do have to say.
I did not follow Prado at all until he was at the States.
Like I was, I knew he existed.
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I, I generally I've loved KTM because I love Ryan Dungey, the Wheaties boxes back there.
Um, so I was excited when he came over, I was like, yeah, cool.
If it's not on KTM, great.
Whatever.
It's obviously it's not going to be on Honda because Honda's on lockdown for forever.
Um, but if you're wanting to build your value off the bike, I think that he must belistening to my show and saying, you need to tap into the power of the female demographic.
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So shout out Jorge Prado and your thirst trap.
I told you that's Sabrina's guy.
Like she is in love with that 24 year old.
Spaniard.
spaniard specimen.
Hola, hola and adios, because that's my soul leaving my body when I see those posts likethat.
I'm just like, God, it's just content gold.
(34:24):
So yeah, follow along if you want hot takes on unprocessed thirst traps.
yep, that's when you know you're getting the alley side of things.
Dan's like, tap, I'm out.
But I'm tapping you back in for this one, because this one I can't figure out.
I think I've got my thoughts figured out on it, but last thought.
WSX finally announces their dates.
(34:44):
We have seen them.
We commented a couple of weeks ago on Real Housewives of Modipod that their logo lookslike Stitch from Lilo and Stitch.
You can't unsee it now, so go to my profile if you want to see it.
But the Australian round, which, I mean, WSX was, it has changed hands.
It was Adam Bailey's baby.
Adam Bailey is based out of uh Australia.
WSX and OzX have the same weekend in November.
(35:07):
And I saw that and I immediately was like, no, those aren't the same dates.
And then our boy Ozzy Steve,
posted a screenshot with both of the calendars overlapped.
It's the same damn weekend.
And I'm like, your country is not big enough for that.
And two, your Moto scene is not big enough for that.
So WTF are you thinking?
Like you don't, there's not enough to split.
So I don't know, am I off based on that?
(35:29):
And just like, it's creating, I mean, I know they didn't go with the intention of creatinga necessary drama, but like, if you follow Moto and you follow OzX open and you follow WSX
and you see those dates, you're thinking.
What the flip?
Like.
It's a, it's a huge confliction.
It is not, it's not good for the Australian motocross scene at all.
(35:50):
All said, the market is not big enough to support two major events like that on the sameday.
Um, it's, it's bad for everybody.
It's bad for the fans.
It's bad for the riders.
They're going to have to choose on, you know, know WSX there's, know, they havecontractual obligations with the teams, you know, but, um, Oz X open, you know, you've got
guys that race Oz X open.
(36:12):
That could potentially be wild cards for WSX.
it's just not, it's not good for anybody.
I would suspect Ali that there will be a date change on one of those series.
I, it's not sustainable.
is not both series and both promoters are going to lose money because of this.
And it's not a good business decision.
(36:34):
So I think that you'll see a date change in one of those, one of those events.
I think so too.
And honestly, like you've got to think that Oz X and Adam have the Lawrence's and like ifis there a bigger draw since Chad for Ozzy Moto fans in Hunter and Jet?
No.
So I think that honestly like Oz X has the upper hand to play the Lawrence card.
(36:56):
But like look at this year, like I remember when the schedule came out this year and wehad the four week run in the Northeast, which like weather aside, I was really curious to
see the numbers on that because I was like, are we going to split fans?
Like, are you going to have
know, people from like, let's take Pennsylvania.
Are they going to go to Pittsburgh, but not Philly or whatever?
Um, like, what if you just move one of them back a weekend?
(37:17):
Like the numbers for us were great.
Like I was shocked.
I mean, even Foxborough, there was a dumpster fire that I went to.
I shouldn't say fire dumpster popsicle because it was so cold.
Like people are going to go to it, but if they're literally at the same time, they're onthe same weekends, like what are you thinking?
So that was just one that had me scratch my head.
I was like, that's not cool.
It's not cool.
So.
(37:38):
I don't know where they're at in relation to each other, like physical location.
Are they in the same city or close?
Are they one, like one on one side of the country?
Are on the other side of the country or?
Good point.
We need to look that up.
We look like dumb Americans that don't know our geography, but that's okay.
Yeah, Ozzy Steve could help us, I mean, even if, even if they are, If they're on this,this complete and, uh, different end of the spectrum, far as location wise, it's still bad
(38:03):
for the sport.
It's just, you're going to have one set of fans watching one race.
It's just, it's stupid.
Yep, I think so too.
I do, but to end on a happy note, I really feel like speaking of Ozzy's, mean, gosh,they're kicking our butts.
Like I'm looking at Caden Manier.
He looked awesome.
Charlie Cannon, girl, girl Charlie.
(38:23):
People are like, who's he?
And I'm like, girl, it's a girl.
She's killing it.
ah We've gotten a little bit of like old Jet back recently, like playful Jet.
He was talking about, you know, not being able to grow a beard and like thinking Eli'sbeard is gnarly and like taking the camera and putting it on the Tomax and just like
laughing during the press conference and like.
First of all, we're not gonna talk about the stuff going on outside of it.
(38:45):
Like all of the legal stuff that's going on, cool.
That's their thing.
But it doesn't mean that it doesn't affect you and you're coming back from like an injury.
So the fact that A, Jett is like dominating, but B, that he's happy and that he's can putall of that aside and still like bring some of his personality back.
Like I'm praying that this like old goofy Jett like sticks because I think we've gottenbuttoned up Jett.
(39:06):
I think we've gotten professional Jett and I like version A better.
Have you noticed a difference between, like at least in Moto, maybe not in Supercross,because he was injured so early, but in Motocross, have you noticed a happy jet?
Yeah.
I, yeah, he's definitely even the last couple of weeks, he's been a little bit happier.
Um, I don't know if you guys follow, vital MX, but Michael Lindsay got some very goodshots of the, of the bike.
(39:31):
made some chassis changes, um, added some gusseting in the chassis up towards the headtube that they did on the previous generation Honda as well.
So, um, I think that makes a difference.
And you know, when the bike's good, you're happier.
You're, you're it's.
you're going to get the result easier, right?
Safer.
And you're just overall happier.
(39:53):
So I think with the bike coming around, you're going to start seeing the happy jet again.
So.
Man, a happy jet is dangerous because right now I honestly think like I don't think he's100 % and he's still going one, one, one, one, one.
Like, I mean, I'm not, well, except for one, one, one, one, one, one, three, one.
(40:15):
But.
go 21 in one?
I don't know, man.
To take one from Steve.
I don't know, man.
I don't know.
AP looks great.
I think AP is on the upswing.
Eli looks great.
Although Eli's making me nervous.
Like somebody said, he's already taken a page from Jay's KTM book and tucking the front.
(40:35):
And I'm like, shut up.
I'm not ready to go there yet.
But I don't know.
I don't think so.
I'm going to speak it into existence.
I don't think he goes.
21 and one, I don't want to see 21 and one.
I don't want to see Mr.
Boring again.
We saw it last year.
It was amazing.
When we got, when we got on the second half, like the countdown from the, you know, 11modos, like I was like, yes, I want to see the perfect season.
(40:55):
So I can say I watched it live, but I don't want to see it again.
I want to see a dog fight, but this is what bothers me is that I don't think that he's ahundred percent and he's still managing.
Like other than that one moto where he sat back and he was like, I'll take my third.
He has more in the tank and he's, he's managing it when people get close when AP, whenEli.
And so I'm like, if this isn't 100 % and he's still got stuff left in the tank, like we'rein for a good season.
(41:18):
So I think it's all positive.
the bike is only going to get better and he's only going to get stronger.
So I don't want to see it either because I want to see AP, I want to see AP get one.
I really do.
It's going to be tough.
It's going to be tough.
And if we're talking perfect seasons, ah I'm just glad that Deegans is not there.
uh I could not handle Deegans.
(41:41):
I can't.
I kind of wanted him to see, I wanted to see him do it, but I don't hate the kid.
I don't either, I don't hate him, but I just couldn't have listened to an undefeatedseason at the end of it.
I just think I just would have been like turn off the TV early, I can't do it.
So I'm just glad we don't have to have that conversation.
So we will continue to watch Deegan and his 18 inches of starting gate and startingblocks.
(42:06):
That's fine, I'm gonna keep a close eye on that.
uh yeah, the sport isn't a good place.
We've got a couple areas where we can take some major strides, Moda Media, where westarted.
ah
Gosh, between having Eli way longer than we thought we would, Jett and Hunter being onanother level, high little thumbs up, and Deegan now, like we're solid.
(42:29):
I mean, we've got some great personalities.
Like, let's not even talk about Cole Davies coming back.
my gosh, I love Cole.
So we're gonna have Cole next year.
I mean, gosh, 2026 is already setting up to be epic.
So I'll cool my Jets, no pun intended.
I will enjoy Motocross this year, but we're in a good place.
We are, you know, it's kind of crazy.
You ever think about like, you know, when Stu and RC were here and Chad, and you're like,man, this is never, it's never going to be like this.
(42:53):
And then next wave of guys came in and you're like, my God, it's so good.
And then, ah, it's never going to be better than the Dungee RV day.
And here we are again.
It's like, it's keeps elevating, which is incredible.
Yeah, I do think, this will be our last point to put a bow on it.
uh In comparing us to F1, there's a lot faster moves between manufacturers.
(43:17):
mean, people get cut in the middle of the season.
Liam Lawson looking at you, not even the middle of season, you make it like two races.
But in our sport, you see the rider so much.
In F1, they get in the truck, get in the car and the helmet's on, you don't know who itis.
So you have this connection, this like emotional connection to these writers becausethey're more human.
(43:38):
So if we can just tell those stories, mean, not to, uh what am I thinking of?
I know.
Original conversational moto podcast.
DMX, DMXS, was like, don't say DCMX, all the acronyms.
uh That's what keeps you invested.
And I think that we're starting to come around on that in.
(44:00):
The stories are the people.
doesn't matter how fast the race car goes.
It doesn't matter how fast the dirt bike is.
It doesn't matter what manufacturer is winning.
Like I want to cheer for AP because I watched Detroit.
You know, I watched him lose that one.
ah So yeah, I think we're going to be fine.
I think we're going to be all right.
ah But we got to keep telling those stories.
And that's what we're here for.
(44:21):
The biggest thing is, we all, we all want to see our sport grow.
Right.
But do we really, I mean, we're one of the only sports where our professional athletes areaccessible by the general public on a race day.
Get in the pits.
Anybody.
It's, the super cross fan fest is incredible.
(44:42):
That doesn't exist anywhere else.
So do we really want to get bigger where that changes?
I don't know, it's an interesting thought for sure because I look at the growth that theDeegans have brought the sport for better for worse and I'm like, I don't know that I like
growing in that way because I don't know that I like those fans.
I don't know that I like the Deegan fans that didn't follow Moto, that didn't followBrian.
(45:05):
There are Hayden Deegan fans that have come to the sport through their channel that Ithink are just Hayden fans and that's fine, that's fine.
You can have your rider, but they also, don't feel like we're like the core of the corefor Moto.
So it's growth in the right direction.
It's not growth at all costs.
Like I know people like who are die hard F1 fans, my husband's best friend.
(45:26):
And he was like, I've never watched a single episode of Drive to Survive because I thinkit's you know, it's fluff or whatever.
And they don't like Drive to Survive because it's like, you know, it's ruined the sport.
It's brought in people who aren't hardcore.
So I think there's a delicate line we can walk there with growth for sure.
um man, having some more transparency and not...
(45:47):
Not arguing about who's right in the Moto Media is probably not a good place to start.
Real quick, real quick before we go.
Last thing you said something about the fans, right?
What about these fans?
You've seen them on, I've seen them in person, but these fans that like stand on the sideof the track and scream and yell and flip the riders off and like, is it, are they that
(46:12):
stupid?
Did they have too much to drink?
Like what goes through your mind as a fan and a person to act that way?
That's what I
embarrassing.
It is embarrassing.
ah I mean, I don't know.
They're probably the same guys that are coming for me and calling me the see you nextTuesday word and, you know, commenting on my body.
They're probably the same guys, but gosh, it's embarrassing.
(46:34):
Like, and you spent money to go to these races.
Are you talking about the one that's leaning over the fence at Paula flipping off jet?
Like.
there was a guy, uh, it, um, Glendale that was right in front of me in, industry seatingas well, which was, which was, uh, I'm telling you right now that happens in industry
seating is wild.
Like, I don't know how the hell these people get these tickets, but they should be very,very embarrassed the way they act in general, but, um, especially in industry seating, but
(47:04):
no, this guy's like, he had this hard on for RJ Hampshire.
Like he's standing.
F you are J he's got his fingers F you from like row 30.
Do you think he's him?
Do you think RJ gives a shit?
Absolutely.
Like you're you look like a freaking idiot.
I just I don't even know what goes through somebody's mind to even do that.
(47:31):
I just don't get it.
Going out of your way to be hateful in a sport that crosses so many barriers, gender,political lines, socioeconomic.
Let's talk about who's gonna buy a cowee versus who's gonna buy a Ducati.
You will buy both, but that's a bad example.
But why can't we all come together and like the sport for the sake of the sport?
(47:56):
There's not a single rider.
that I would do that too.
Like that I would hang over and like flip them off.
Like, first of all, that's just embarrassing, but like, I don't personally hate a writerbecause of, I don't even know what, like, what do you hate Jet for?
Like, okay, it's episode 14.
Let's talk about Dylan for one second.
Like the people that booed Dylan after he took out what, Craig or A-Mart?
(48:18):
There was an A-Mart wreck or Craig was on A-Mart.
Okay.
my gosh, the hatred because of that.
Like, I'm like, okay, maybe that was, you know, America versus France, but like,
I would never, like I would never be an asshole to a writer.
Like this writer is literally risking their life to entertain you.
Period.
I'm not going to lie.
was pretty upset with Juju and RJ both for their nasty move on my guy Seth for the 250.
(48:44):
But I would never go up to either one of them, like to their pit and like flip them offand F you like that.
just, that just boggles my mind to get to a point that you would act that way, you know?
I mean, I commented on the episode after Salt Lake City, people were going after Ashley,RJ's wife, like in her comments being like, how could you be married to him or some
(49:05):
ridiculous comment?
And I was like, you went out of your way to put that on RJ's wife's profile.
Like that just disgusts me.
So if you're one of those fans, like kindly, we try not to use cuss words here because mykids watch them.
They also see me now on YouTube and they're like, mom, but if you're one of those fans,kindly fuck all the way off.
Fuck all the way off.
I agree.
(49:26):
Oh, mic drop.
That'll be that'll be what we leave you with.
Don't be one of those fans.
Be be a good person.
It's not too much to ask these days.
So.
saying Ali that those people are watching this podcast, but Hey, maybe it'll Hey, if itwas just one idiot, I'm cool with that.
We did our.
Yep.
(49:47):
I think so too.
Well, you guys loved episode one with Dan.
um So Ruts and Rumbles will continue for the foreseeable future.
um If you guys have feedback, good, bad, or otherwise, ah give me follow on RealHousewives Moto on Instagram.
We're to be putting these on the YouTube.
That's where all the dumpster fire comments are.
I'm looking forward to some dumpster fire comments.
Like, come at me with the unhinged content, because ah I think I enjoy the clap back alittle bit too much.
(50:13):
Give us a follow there.
you don't follow Dan, Dan, where can they find you and DCMX tools?
Where can we find you?
at DCMX tools on Instagram and at Dan Colvin 633 on Instagram.
There you go.
Dan, every once in a while, Dan will post something that's not green.
So, and it's definitely not a green turd.
(50:34):
Well, cool.
Thanks for chatting today, Dan.
And uh we'll watch High Point and see what spicy thoughts we have next week.
All right.
Bye, guys.
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