June 27, 2025 • 42 mins
Summary
In this episode of Real Housewives of Moto, Aly and Tool Man Dan discuss various themes surrounding motocross, including reflections on past races, social media controversies, upcoming races, and the dynamics of international riders. They delve into the impact of social media on the sport, particularly regarding rider interactions and public perceptions. The conversation also touches on the significance of the Motocross of Nations and the emerging talents in the sport, highlighting Cole Davies and the expectations surrounding Chase Sexton. The episode concludes with predictions for the future of motocross and the evolving landscape of rider dynamics.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Episode Overview
01:54 Reflections on the 2017 Vegas Race
04:55 Discussion on AC's New Relationship
07:57 Social Media Controversies and Engagement
11:51 Upcoming Races and Potential Drama
15:58 Insights on the Current State of Moto Racing
21:45 Transitioning to a New Environment
23:15 The Pressure of Expectations
25:36 Overcoming Challenges in Racing
26:36 The Impact of Media on Athletes
27:43 The Rise of New Talent in Moto
29:48 The Future of Moto Media
32:35 The Dilemma of National Representation
35:48 The Importance of Team Support
39:04 The Influence of Social Media on Perception
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Keywords
motocross, racing, social media, controversies, riders, motocross of nations, Cole Davies, Chase Sexton, international riders, motocross dynamics
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(00:02):
Hey friends and welcome back to another episode of Real Housewives of Modo, the Ruts andRumbles edition.
We are on episode 17, which would be Joey Savace and I have once again convinced thelovely tool man Dan to come and give me his time.
So what's up Dan?
Well, I think this is three, right?
So I, this is, this is more than just a habit now.
Is that like, I mean, so I guess this is a thing, Ali.
(00:26):
It's me and you.
It's me and you.
Ruts and rumbles on the Real Housewives of Modo.
Wow.
I can't even believe I'm part of that portion some way or another.
That's okay.
I support you.
you're one of the few men that doesn't hate me.
So I appreciate that.
Got myself into some hot water again this week, which we can talk about.
(00:47):
But yeah, episode 17.
I cannot believe we're there.
But I think it was timely.
feel like, you know, our friends over at Main Event Moto that you help out with launchedthe vintage pod.
of 2017 Vegas and I just think about poor Joey and like I don't know that his soul evercame back in his body fully.
That's what I think about when I think about Vegas.
oh
(01:08):
trying to think like, is there any other race that ended like that for a championship?
mean, that was, I can't think of anything else that was like that.
Just.
can't think of anything.
mean, I think it was so many things that like we knew with the 450s coming that like itwas gonna come down to Eli and Dungey.
(01:29):
And so we just like weren't prepared for it.
I don't know.
Like I was there.
I've said it a million times on record.
But then I'm an AC fan.
You're an AC fan.
We are large AC fans.
And so I was freaking out because with the points, I'm like, I think Adam can win and Ican't do the math fast enough.
I can't do big brain math like Jet.
So I couldn't do it in the moment.
(01:51):
And then the takeout and I was just like, don't, what planet are we on?
Like, so yeah, I mean, if, you could be at one race in the last 20 years, like I, I mean,I'm biased, but that one's a pretty good one.
You said two names that struck my nerve.
You want a fun fact?
Always.
(02:11):
I am building a toolbox right now for Adam Cincerello and I'm also building a toolboxright now for Zach Osborne.
I like both of those humans.
They are both quality humans.
That's cool.
You should send me and or Brap Yap a sneak peek of those.
So that's fun.
I don't know, but she's really smart and really funny and really witty and really weirdlyconnected.
(02:37):
People really trust her for some reason.
I don't think they should all the time, but uh she's a good one.
She does.
People talk and is dumb.
uh
One little comment on Adam.
uh He hard launched the girlfriend comment in the last episode.
I have to, I did not know.
I did not even know that he had a girlfriend.
(02:59):
I didn't know who this, was her name?
Ashley Brown?
Is it Brown?
Ashley Rowan.
goes by, yeah, her business name is Ashley Nicole.
She does jewelry, that's dope.
I kind of want some.
I'm gonna be like, hey, you commissions?
So like I had no idea who this girl was.
So like, I think you posted it.
So I clicked on it cause I wanted to see who she was and she's got a shitload offollowers.
Like I didn't know.
Like I, yeah, good for Adam, dude.
(03:22):
She's, you know, what's crazy.
Mm-hmm.
This is gonna be kinda mean.
But his last girlfriend, is it Jess?
Is that the British one?
No, she was a field hockey player at UMass?
Yeah.
Was she British?
Did I miss that?
I mean, I met her.
Oh, it's terrible.
I'm a terrible human.
(03:44):
Yeah.
to me she wasn't very attractive, but she was super cool.
But this new one, man, she's a ripper.
ah if we have a little green tea, little cowy green tea, you know where we've seen herbefore.
Jason Anderson dated her.
my god, you're right.
Oh my god, you're right.
(04:06):
And you know, god.
Okay, that makes sense now.
She's been around.
Yep, so I posted something about them on my page and I put two green hearts andeverybody's like, I know what those two green hearts mean.
And I'm like, this is my world.
This is where I shine.
my God, now that you say it, it came back to me.
(04:29):
But you know, I was thinking about it.
I was like, she's been around Moto.
She was at the house party that Hayden Deegan was at last weekend with the face tattoogambler guy.
So I'm like, she understands the industry.
She understands when she needs to be quiet.
She knows some things you don't say on record.
So I'm like, good for him.
Good for him.
I'm all for it.
And I'm going to order some jewelry.
(04:50):
have you heard any more about the whole scandal with Mickey Mace and Jillian and Justin?
I wanna hear it, let's go.
I know, but you said the name and then I remember seeing something maybe like last week ortwo weeks ago or something like that.
(05:11):
And so then it just sparked my memory.
I will say this, and it's very similar to Hayden Deegan.
I mean, Jillian comes from money, we know that.
And I think that like Hayden, they've both lived in this world of privilege.
And at least, you know, Hayden is amazing at his craft too.
um So I don't know that they quite live in like reality, but I'm not saying that in a badway.
(05:34):
Like I'm not being like, they're so clueless.
It's just like, they're so rich and they're so famous.
Like they don't live in the same world as us.
ah And like I have friends in Tallahassee and like they've seen her at parties like atFlorida State and so I was like, this is not a good look.
So I asked around, I asked some of my people around, my girlies and they're like, youknow, I think you're dead on Ali.
Like she, you know, she just had lived in, she's lived in this, you know, very affluentworld and she loves Justin.
(06:03):
you know, there's nothing weird going on.
Like she's never really had a normal childhood.
It's kind of like Hayden too.
It's like, yeah, okay, now they're adults, so to speak, and they have their own money andthey wanna go party.
But everybody was like, no, she's super down for Justin.
I think it's weird that she doesn't come to the races every weekend, but I'm also adiehard and I'm like, I would love to go to the races every weekend and be in the rigs and
(06:26):
all that.
So um I think that the internet made it out to be more than it was.
I think it was probably not a good look.
I think the video didn't make her look great, but from everybody that I talked to, theywere like, no, she's...
the down-ass chick.
I'm like, cool.
All right.
That's all I need to know.
that's, that's the T there.
(06:46):
But Hey, Jillian, anytime you want to come talk, like come talk to Real Housewives Modo.
Cause I got questions.
ah Talking about things that got me in trouble on the internet this week.
We learned right before pressing record that your girl is back in Instagram jail.
Yay.
I don't know, you gotta stop getting your, I mean, we haven't been at this for that longand you've been in jail like multiple times, like I don't, you really need to watch what
(07:07):
you're saying, Ali.
it's ridiculous.
I know I'm going to I'm to pay for the stupid little blue check mark because it leads itgets you like one tenth of an amount of stuff from meta.
So anywho, I posted no actually I did not post.
I had Hayden's Snapchat sent to me several times about this retrofitted helmet that Duffhad built.
I thought it was cool and it was you know his Alpine Star's helmet and a camelback and I'mlike OK that's that's cool.
(07:33):
It said you know we're to put Kool-Aid in it.
Obviously not.
um But everybody was like, was this not everybody?
My girls, girls, no man asked this.
So let me tell you, the men know they understand, but my girls were like, is this legal?
I'm like, I don't know.
I really don't know.
I know the GMCC guys do it, but I don't know where the AMA rule is playing.
So was like, let me drop the 400 page rule book into an AI bot.
(07:55):
And I asked it questions.
It basically came back and said,
If it's not modified on the bike and it was tested originally with a helmet, it's fine.
So come to find out that is the case.
It was originally built into the Alpinestars helmet.
I'm so sorry.
got really aggressive there.
I'm so sorry that I don't know everything about every accessory in Moto ever to exist orwho's run it or whatever.
(08:20):
Like there's so many people that are like AP ran it, Blake Baggett ran it, I was like, I'mso sorry.
I'm so sorry.
I'm so triggering.
But I posted a reel explaining how I came to that conclusion and the deaconites, I've justgot to think they're deaconites.
the content.
interaction and engagement that I get when I post about Deegan is like unparalleled.
(08:40):
Like I've been, I've been, you know, growing the account for about two and a half months.
The Deegan reel has like 15,000 views in less than 24 hours.
Like I'm like, this is insane.
Like, and I, and I have like 2000 followers.
So I'm like, where are where are the 13,000 views coming in?
So I got this lovely comment, which we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna talk about froma user M Weaver, six, five, eight.
(09:04):
He's got a picture with his kid and his profile.
I really hope you don't have a daughter.
So he said, definitely not the first to do it.
Blake Baggett, which I'm going to ask Kell Baggett about this, ran this for a few seasons.
Stop being a poser and jumping on the pod space cast.
That's one word.
First of all, bandwagon.
You don't know the history of this sport.
(09:25):
You sound like a delightful human.
Like how fun are you?
So I clap back, not even clap back.
I'm genuinely curious.
said, Hey question.
Respectfully, why comment that?
Like, how does it help anything?
I mean, you could have kept scrolling, but you decided to bully me instead.
You clearly don't know anything about me and my knowledge of the sport.
Also, you realize that by commenting, you're only pumping me back into your algorithm.
(09:46):
So while I appreciate your engagement, it looks like I somehow trigger you, which is sadbecause I think that we love the same sport.
So maybe you should go ahead and just block me so you don't see my content again.
I personally think that the moto content, more the better, but sorry that my lack ofunderstanding in every single accessory has offended you.
Am I off base, Dan?
No, no, you're not off base.
(10:07):
So I get this, I get this quite frequently.
um It's just, it's keyboard warriors.
And I did look at Mr.
Weaver's Instagram.
He has like a handful of followers.
It's always the ones Ali that have like, nobody follows them, their account set toprivate.
It's like, I just, I don't get it, right?
Why I, and maybe this is just me.
(10:28):
I am way too busy to get on the internet and start like starting crap with somebody andlike,
talking shit and I just, I have better things to do than that.
So maybe he just, maybe he doesn't have a job or maybe he's got too much time on his hand.
I don't know, right?
I don't know what his, but not just Mr.
(10:48):
Weaver, it's, there's a lot of them out there, right?
But backing up what you said, uh for one, you know more than most, I would say you knowmore than 90 % of the fans out there.
Thank you.
You are very connected, ah so don't let that discourage you.
And personally, can't remember Blake Baggett running that setup, which I'm not saying thathe didn't.
(11:16):
I don't remember it.
ah But whatever, cool.
ah
would be around like would you run it I mean you know I had some talks about like I feellike I'd vomit so if I'm like Zacco or Ando that like they're pukers like I wouldn't want
to drink anything during a moto like I thought that's where we were going but no no no nono we were we were going at Allie
(11:39):
Well, it's, I don't know.
It's there.
There's a lot of podcasts out there, right?
And, and I'm just going to be, I'm being honest, Ali, he's probably saw your thing.
And it's like, thinks it's cheesy or corny, the real housewives thing, a woman gettinginto a predominantly male sport.
Like he, he's, he's just gonna that's, that's, that's what he's running off ofessentially.
(12:02):
Right.
And so I don't know, man, let him do his thing.
You do your thing.
We all, you know, we have your back and Mike, you don't know what you're talking about,pal.
You have no clue.
Is his name Mike?
I don't know, Mike, Mike Weaver, I don't know.
I'm going to drop his handle in the show notes.
No, I'm just kidding.
I'm not that mean.
I don't care about you that much, but moving on.
(12:25):
I get it on DCMX.
I'll get people that will comment about my tools and stuff.
ah Like today, ah RH22 took a picture of our brake depressor on a Tye's bike.
Basically, it holds in the ah front brake lever to open up the master cylinder, whichreleases their bubbles and stuff out the top of the master cylinder, which brings your
(12:48):
firmness of your brake back.
It's $14.95, Ali.
It's $14.95 on my website.
But then you got guys that will comment like, you can just fucking use a zip tie.
You can use a rubber band.
Then do that.
Like, why are you taking the time to comment on my stuff?
Like, then go do that.
(13:09):
Like, get out of here.
But it's the same type of stuff.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I get it too.
can't do it.
Yeah.
But I will say, ah if people are mean on the internet, like you're doing something right.
So I'm like, yeah, that's a good sign.
Like that means people are engaging and they're idiots.
(13:31):
So moving on.
We are finally, we have a race tomorrow.
don't.
I don't know what it is about off weeks.
I'm just like, my life is so boring.
Like we don't have, I don't have any of the sports that I like.
Like I'm like, we didn't have an F1 race.
We're nowhere near college football.
Like, but we are back.
We have the WIC tomorrow.
There is drama.
What are, what is going on?
(13:52):
We heard about the Conan brothers, but now they're not coming.
yeah.
yeah.
Hello.
What are we here for?
They're not coming.
I've heard they're coming and now I've heard they're not so WTF.
What have you heard?
so they, they do, they want to come here and I believe it's in their contract that they,um, can come here.
I think don't quote me.
It could be wrong, but I think in their contract, it says something like they need to wina championship and back the championship up to be able to come here or something like
(14:21):
that.
But, um, I do know some folks that, you know, did talk to KTM direct in the U S and KTM.
for, you know, basically said for Southwick, it's not going to happen.
I do believe they are still trying to make this happen for Redbud.
ah It'll be interesting to see if they make it or not, but I think it'd be rad.
(14:44):
And then there was talk of Hurling's also that he was going to try to come to Southwick aswell.
There was talks of that.
But.
Kyda Wolf, like know there wasn't Kyda Wolf talk, but I'm like, can you imagine if we justgot like this like random, like title wave of GP riders for like a random pro national,
like the chaos?
(15:05):
gonna be wild, Is if the Kona brothers do come here for, obviously one of them is gonnarace 450, one race 250, but just putting another dynamic in the 450 class with Jet.
And obviously it's Red Bud, right?
It's 4th July weekend, it's America, you you're putting another rider from another countryin there.
(15:29):
Like, I don't know, that makes it spicy, I think.
Yeah.
But let's be honest, I still think Jet has got these guys handled.
I do too.
ah I do too.
And there's no, there's no way to cut it.
I mean that, that he's not winning.
I mean, I, I so want Eli to get the starts figured out.
(15:50):
Like Katie and I talked about it on Monday.
We're like, is Rhino helping him with starts?
Like is he like, is that why Rhino was there?
Like, are we pulling out all the stops so Eli can figure out starts?
I think that's the only, the only challenger.
I mean, AP has gotten a few, but ah yeah, it's, it's the jet show.
It's the Jets show, but I mean, it would be cool to see the Conan's come over and, to seewhat they could do.
(16:13):
Right.
Um, it w what honestly is going to be very interesting.
I don't know if you want to segue into this, but we can, but you know, you, you have, um,Conan's potentially coming over for red bud.
You've got.
Cairoly going to be here for a few rounds for, with on Ducati.
Uh, and then you have Prado, right?
(16:35):
You've got, you've got some GP riders.
that are coming over and then you've got Prado that's been here but hasn't raced a lot,right?
How does that go?
And where does everybody stack up?
And there's been some debate, right?
I've seen some debate online, you know, because Kiroli for sure is coming.
(16:56):
He's coming for a couple of rounds.
Can Kiroli beat Prado?
And that's a big debate.
There's a lot of people saying that, no, there's no way Kiroli beats Prado.
But Ali, I don't know, man.
Kiroli's pretty good.
And he's been on that bike for a while.
(17:19):
The bike, I think that will be here that he is riding is gonna be different than the bikethat he's probably been riding in Europe.
The engine's gonna be stock with the pipe and some mapping and stuff.
But chassis wise, it's gonna be a production chassis, essentially.
Probably a little bit different, but still, he's been on that platform for a while.
(17:42):
We know Cairo is incredible, even when he was over here last, was it last year two yearsago?
He was two years ago.
He was fantastic, I thought.
ah But he's been off the bike in race shape, if you will, for a few years.
So I don't know.
But I guess that question's to you.
What do you think?
(18:03):
I don't know.
I think Antonio is one of those like just freaks.
Like I put him in the Dungee league, not just because of the KTM thing, but I just thinkthat like he, he's always going to be a bad dude on a bike, you know?
So I think that he's going to be competitive.
And I think on the other side of it, not to offend your poor cowy soul, like Prado is bigtime struggling.
So, I mean, I could totally see my little, my, my moto mind, like Prado, the Kirolis, theConan's like all going to some, you know, whatever French restaurant and just being like,
(18:31):
God, the American food sucks and this isn't even the worst part about my life right now.
I could see it.
I don't know, did you watch his vlog?
Did you get a chance to watch it?
Cause I've watched it twice now and I have comments.
I haven't watched it yet, but I did see the preview and you and I kind of briefly spokeabout this, but I think based on what I just the preview of the vlog and that I think says
(18:54):
a lot, right?
That obviously there's issues.
They're not where they want to be currently, but they're very positive.
They've got a very positive outlook that this is going to work out and they're going toget things figured out and all is going to be fine, right?
Is that the gist of it?
Yeah.
And honestly, like, I appreciate that.
Like, I know everybody's like, my gosh, like sound the alarms for Cowie, but I'm like, Iwish we could take more of like the F1 mindset, which is like, be more transparent.
(19:20):
Like you don't have to kiss the ass of your OEM.
Like, I mean, there's a fine line, but yeah, I wrote down some of my, like my favoriteparts of the vlog.
Like he calls, he calls Cowie his new family, like, and very like optimistic about it.
So like, you could see like he's going into this.
He knows what a big deal it is.
uh
He said he goes to Fox every week.
I have questions about that.
I feel like you could go to Fox every week and enjoy yourself.
(19:42):
But like, what are you doing at Fox every week?
Like, I don't understand.
maybe like, some of his kits that he's been wearing, it's like a lot of the pink stuff,which I think is sick.
I like, here I am on Real Housewives of Modo saying pink is awesome.
But no, his gear is badass.
Like I like the pink look on that with the green.
I think it just looks good.
(20:03):
But so he's probably doing some custom sets because I don't think that stuff is releasedto the public.
So they're probably one offset for him.
Yeah.
And it was so cool.
Like they want his feedback.
I think it's very interesting that they're talking about pink on Cowie and like we're allthinking about a four on Cowie with pink gear one day.
And so they gave Prado the pink gear.
(20:24):
I'm not saying that was intentional, but I'm just like, yeah, he, it's definitely not beena a good year by any, any shape of whatever.
here's my take on this, And because what his vlog says is a little bit different maybethan what I'm hearing on the backend or maybe not, yeah, rumbles, right?
(20:51):
That it's not as great as he may lead on that it is, right?
I think they are really struggling.
He's been very open about the bike.
and the bike needed more power.
And let me tell you, all the 450s in the 450 class have got plenty of power.
Does it have the power that Star Yama has?
(21:13):
No, I don't think so.
But they still have plenty of power to be competitive.
That's just, that's the 450 nature.
I do know that Anderson and AC had complained in the past about the power on the newgeneration Cali.
And in stock form, like the bike and the stock platform, it is the mellowest 450 of themall except the Ducati.
(21:37):
Ducati may be a little bit more mellow than the Cali, but it's the mellowest one.
But I mean, they've got these, these engine technicians, Ali, they're, they're wizards andthese ECU guys, they're wizards.
I don't think that bike is slow.
And I think Ken Roxton went on the uh AC and JB show this week.
And that was something that they had asked him is how do, what does he think about, youknow,
(22:00):
blaming the bike and and and Roxton said no he doesn't believe it's the bike and here'swhat I think I think it's a lot of things I think it's the bike I think that yes maybe he
wants more power I think the transition to America the food here just the whole way oflife in America is completely different than it is in Spain right he's coming off of an
(22:23):
injury he's he's moving from one
platform from a steel frame to an aluminum frame, which that alone is a big change.
So I think it's a lot of things all in one.
And the easiest thing to blame is the bike.
think you're dead right.
um You know, it's funny, I'm glad that Justin and AC asked Kenny that because if there'sanybody you want to ask that of, I mean, maybe other than like Marvin, it's Kenny.
(22:50):
um I think that Kenny is an exceptional talent.
think that, I mean, we don't need to go down like the rabbit trail of like my love ofKenny again, but I had Kenny not been injured.
I think that we would have seen a run of Kenny championships.
So.
I want to caveat with, don't think that Prado is on the same level as Kenny in my mind,although I will say I did not follow Kenny in Europe in 2012.
(23:10):
So like shut up.
ah But it does take a whole nother level to overcome all of those things that you talkedabout.
mean, moving to another country, moving to another platform, moving, I mean, and now he'smoving across the country from California to club.
So, I mean, that's a lot of change.
And I don't know, I don't know if like we bought into the hype, believe the hype.
(23:31):
I don't know if we bought into the hype with the three-year contract.
think that was that was shocking to me that I was like, okay, because I mean, other thanlike Kenny wins the last time we saw a contract that was three to five years.
I Kenny's was five at Honda.
It was a big deal.
So I think that all of us downstream were like, okay, like show up and show out.
And yeah, he did get injured and it was it was whoops related, right?
(23:53):
I think, right.
It was whoops related in practice or qualifying.
So it's like, get it.
Like you'd never seen them.
And he talks about it in the vlog.
He was like, my gosh, like whoops in life, you know, like in the flesh.
um So, I mean, I don't blame him if he's miserable.
I bet he misses his little sister.
We don't have to go there.
We're not going there.
Just go look at any of his sisters.
go.
I'm gonna get in trouble.
(24:14):
But I think that's a European thing or a Spanish thing, but whatever.
You don't know what I'm talking about.
Follow me at RehasaIzumoto.
I'll send you the receipts, but I don't blame him.
I don't blame him.
I feel bad for him.
I feel bad for Cowie.
I feel bad for his dad.
His dad's been over here.
mean, really, it sucks.
I don't want to see anybody fail at that caliber.
(24:37):
I don't either, but you gotta think, right?
uh Cali gave him a three-year deal because Cali believed in him, right?
And the reason they gave him a three-year deal is I think they knew that he was gonna havea challenge.
Barri, without the injury, right?
It's just a big transition from the KTM to the Kawasaki being the different chassis, likeI explained, the whole culture of here.
(24:58):
just, it takes some time for these guys to acclimate.
When Ferrandes came over, he didn't start winning right away.
ah
You know, Kenny didn't, he won pretty, pretty dang quick, but it wasn't like immediate.
He didn't come here and just all of a sudden start winning this first second.
No, he did.
I'm pretty sure he won the West Coast 250s his first year.
(25:19):
Was it the first year or the second year?
might've been a second year.
I'll give you that.
Kenny is a freak.
I know it's a bad example.
Let's go more with Dylan.
Tom.
VL a little bit to, to catch on.
So I think for, I think Prader needs to stick it out.
I think that they will get the bike figured out.
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mean, look, look at Ken Roxans on a Suzuki, right?
The Suzuki is like a joke in the pits at one point.
And now they're, they're selling a lot of Suzuki's now because the bike's good, right?
But it's not good in stock form.
So.
The factory Kawasaki technicians can get that bike to where it needs to be.
I guarantee you that, right?
He needs to shovel this freaking season under the carpet and move on.
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It just is what it is.
um the thing that's concerning honestly is it's like now people are starting to talk aboutchase.
How does this affect chase?
Like what is chase thinking now?
um
So that's a whole another can of worms who can maybe go down another day, but.
Yeah, yeah, I had some boots on the ground, chats about Chase and how Cowie fits into it.
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And it's just like, bro, I don't think this is what you're looking for.
I don't think what he's looking for exists, but anyhow, we won't go there.
Other things that dropped that was genius, Katie and I talked about this on Monday, butgenius on the off week, Chase dropping a hundred hours with Cole Davies.
Holy crap, so good.
So we're gonna talk about it again.
Oh, was so good.
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my gosh.
I mean, of course, like I love it because it was in Tallahassee and like it was myhometown.
And I just think about like poor little Cole, like without his driver's license, like hecan't even drive himself around.
But ah this is the kind of content that like we want to see.
Like obviously Jace has built this platform.
He is a behemoth in the Moto media, but it shows you somebody who you never would haveseen before.
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I mean, he even says it in his opening monologue that he's like, you know, normally we cansee these amateur phenoms from a mile away.
He's talking about AC, things like that.
But like Cole seemingly came out of nowhere.
I mean, we know because Daniel was involved in getting Cole over here with Will.
um But man, it just made me love him even more.
it's him being at Star and being around Deegan and like, we're not even gonna talk aboutthe Deegan takeouts and are they friends or whatever.
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He's just such a different energy in comparison to uh Deegan.
And then the fact that like he's fast when he's healthy and he's hilarious.
Like I think he's a great brand ambassador.
I just, think that
I think that Jace just like did a solid for the industry, for the audience of Modo, forCole.
um It was just perfection all the way around.
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What'd you think?
It was 100%, 100%.
It was 100 out of 10.
Jason knocked it out of the park.
I think the whole storytelling of that video was incredible.
One thing I gotta ask you, what does that little piece of property in that little house inTallahassee cost?
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Because that was looking real nice.
I like.
looked it up.
You know I looked it up.
you did.
eh
Yeah, let's just say if you dropped it down in California, it'd be like five mil.
So do the math on Tallahassee.
I'm gonna be creepy, but uh I also looked up the Deegans compound, which is like 15minutes away from my old house and my best friend's house where I stay when I go to
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Tallahassee.
And it's beautiful, the Deegans house.
And it was like 1.8 in Tallahassee.
If you want property, go to Tallahassee.
Oh, 12.5.
Yeah.
That's bad.
my gosh.
Yeah, we could talk about real estate.
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I was like, that little house with the trees and stuff, that was a cool little piece ofproperty.
just the fact that it showed that Cole struggled during the week.
That whole storytelling of he was way off the pace of the other guys, he was struggling,he overcame that.
I think that's what's cool about our sport is it's...
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That's kind of behind the curtain a little bit, right?
Because I think most people think that he is at the track every week and he's beatingDeegan and beating all these guys, but no, he was like way off the pace, but then he shows
up at the races and he's winning.
So I think that that whole thing is cool.
um I'll tell you right now that Jace has connections.
He's got connections with Red Bull.
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think he's developing connections with Monster.
It wouldn't shock me if Jace is the one, and he's also working with Wes from Verb, wouldnot shock me one bit if these guys were able to break the mold and get into Netflix.
I think you're dead on.
I said a couple episodes ago that I was like, I feel like Jace could be the Will Bruxtonof Modo.
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Will's the, know, little bit drama, little bit commentating from F1.
um If Jace doesn't want to bring the drama part of it, I would like to apply.
I would like to apply for the drama subplots.
I even told Michael Winsie, I think Michael Winsie reminds me of The Will Buxton.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Also, next time you talk to Michael, would you please tell him that his internet PDA isadorable most of the time, but sometimes makes me want to throw up.
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Most of the time it's adorable, but there's a few.
to ask you a question.
You saw the picture that he posted with his girlfriend, right?
The last one, I think they were at the beach and he had her like, okay, did you not thinkit was an engagement shoot?
I totally thought that's what it was, yes.
Okay, we, him and I just had this debate the other day, cause I'm like, dude, so like, didyou put a ring on it?
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And he's like, no, I don't know why everybody's asking me that.
I'm like, are you serious?
Like you put the white heart.
Michael, Michael, everybody thought that was an engagement photo.
No, everybody thought that.
so delusional.
He's like, no, I don't think so.
And I'm like, yeah, bro, with the white heart is the comment and everything.
Like, come on.
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Anyhow.
tell you two other images that had me thinking something and everybody in my DMs wassaying the same thing.
And so I went and told them, um Justin Barsha came back to talk about his injuries acouple of months ago and it was like close up on his face.
And I just like panicked.
was like, he's retiring.
He's not coming back from injury.
my gosh.
Like, so I sent it to Amber and I was like, Hey, I like my girls agree with me that likewe were panicking about this, that Justin was retiring.
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She was like, my gosh, I never even thought of that.
So that was one.
The second one was when Jaleik Swole came back and Jaleik posted that black and whitephoto.
I don't know what it is.
I have like PTSD with Moto Media and black and white, but it's like, I see black and whiteand I automatically think it's going to be a retirement thing.
So I sent that to his girlfriend, Sophia said the same thing.
She was like, my God, I don't even think about these things, but you're so right.
And it's just like, I don't know.
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We're just so conditioned to have a reaction.
You know, that's what social media is for, but yeah, I, uh, I love Real Housewives of Motobecause
the collective think tank of female fans think the same way and all of them thought thatMichael had been engaged.
That's, yeah, well.
It kills me, but going back to Gypsy and $100 of Cole Davies, he has Hopper on thismorning.
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I started listening to the episode right before we started record.
He goes into talking about Hopper's question of AP about the Eli thing and then math isgetting mad.
But what I really giggled at is that he goes, he's like, okay, pookie because math ispookie.
And I'm like, it's just so good because it's like, it's a dig, but it's, it's got layers.
(32:56):
And like, if we have to explain the layers to you, it's not funny, but
Dang, it was good.
It was a good one.
you know, you know, we, I listened to the pulp show a little bit this week because I was,I did a little bit of driving and I normally don't listen to pulp.
You got, you know, why our listeners, if they know me well enough, they know why too.
But, but it was so funny because, uh, they were talking about it.
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Right.
And then, uh, Berluti was in studio and he was in studio with skip Norfolk and, um, Idon't know, it came up and, uh, Steve was like, you know, you can, you can not like me
because this, this and this and.
you know, but you know, and you cannot like me because I don't like Trump and blah, blah.
And Berluti is like, what?
You don't like Trump?
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Like added.
Did you hear that?
my God, I was I was.
didn't even stop though.
He was like, nope, he just kept on talking.
m
Burley was like, huh.
I don't know, I thought it was funny.
Well, I mean, nobody has ever accused Dan of not being a patriot, but I have to ask you, Ihave to ask you something that started on another podcast that is is pertaining to your
patriotism.
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So don't don't kill me.
Desnations talk like how does this go down if Chase goes to Cowie on October one?
But Desnations is after that and KTM is not going to like want him on their bike at thatpoint.
So like who?
siding with?
Are you siding with Cowie or are you siding with America?
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I'm put you on spot.
Allie, in this forum and not when I'm laying on a massage table, getting a massage afterthe, I'm just gonna blow him out, it's Daniel.
Daniel's blowing me up, blowing me up as I'm trying to get a massage, because he needs ananswer to his question.
But, uh so.
I had to ask it.
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Daniel, it's my fault.
America or Cali, we gotta know.
The fans are dying to know.
oh
think the question, and God bless Tutu because Tutu had to break it down to me because Iwas like half asleep when I was asked this.
anyhow, basically if Chase is asked to ride for this nations, motocross of nations, andCowie would not let him ride a KTM for the race, and Cowie would not support
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chase on a kawi at motocross of nations because they they typically don't want to beinvolved for whatever reason which is stupid would i side with kawasaki or would i side
with america that's the question
Drum roll.
I'm siding with America.
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I'm shocked.
think that there is a time and a place where you have to bend the rules and the contractsa little bit.
thought you were going say bend the knee.
I thought you were going say bend the knee.
Oh no, no, no, we don't bend no knee in alley.
We don't bend a knee alley.
Um, and I think this is one of them, right?
This is like the biggest, arguably the biggest race of the year.
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Every, the whole world looks forward to this.
We have had a tough time in the recent years, uh, you know, winning what across thenations.
Um, we did obviously with chase Eli and Justin Cooper, but I, yeah, I think you have to, Ithink you have to, and honestly, I think.
I think that's good for Kawasaki, even if they were to allow him to race to KTM, I thinkthat's a good look for Kawasaki to be quite honest.
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It's a great PR movie.
So I don't know what will happen either because you know, just corporations, they justdon't give a shit.
know, it's all about dollars and cents.
But I think they should.
Or Kawasaki, if you're listening, please prepare a motorcycle for Chase Sexton.
What a great way to step back into motocross of nations, right?
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uh Having the previous national champion on uh Kawasaki for the race, I think that's epic.
Obviously he won't.
I think Jet's gonna be the current national champion, but the past national champion, Ithink you gotta do it.
And he's been on winning teams before, so.
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I just had a thought.
So when you win designations, you get to run one, two, three the next year, correct?
So Jet or Hunter could potentially be running the three in Eli's last designations.
I hate that.
I hate that.
That's so weird to me, but I'm like, run your normal number.
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there's two 17s to this episode, like we're not dumb.
I don't know.
Some of us are dumb.
I take that back.
uh
a triple digit when they, the year that they won?
Wasn't it like one, wasn't it like one, wasn't it like 101 or something like that or 111or something like that?
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Yeah.
it, America and Europe, have very different views, but ah to bring it back full circle, towrap this bad boy up, ah going back to the top of the episode, Deegan, Deegan doesn't go
this year.
What is the interwebs going to do?
He's.
got zero excuse not to go.
Do we really think he's not gonna go?
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I don't know.
don't know.
feel like last year he had no excuse, but then it was like the elbow or whatever.
And yeah, I mean, like, why not?
If you're healthy and you've dominated the outdoors and you dominated Supercross and youlove America, why not?
So I think it's a bad look if he doesn't.
is absolute, I mean, I didn't think last year there was an excuse for it.
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This year, there is absolute zero, zero excuse for it.
You can't use the excuse, I need to prepare for Supercross, because I need that Supercrosstitle.
He's got it.
He's gonna back it up easily.
He's gonna move on to 450s for outdoors.
In fact, I think he probably steps up to 450 at Supercross.
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I've heard no that's not gonna happen, but it wouldn't shock me.
But I think he defends, right?
The 250, super cross title.
there's zero reason not to go.
And honestly, if he doesn't go, it was a bad look last year.
It's gonna be an even worse look this year.
But at the end of the day, does he care?
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Like do you think he really cares?
Because I don't.
Nope.
Nope.
I think when you're that rich and you're that famous and you're that good at what you do,you live in a whole other head space.
So no, I don't think he cares.
Did he really buy that apartment or that condo on top of that building with the pool?
Did you see that?
I did and I'm trying to find some addresses so I can look it up and use my investigativejournalism skills, but it wouldn't surprise me.
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No, wouldn't surprise me at all.
I I think that what the Moto Media world is saying that Hayden's bringing in, I think isnot correct.
I think it's low.
And so I think he's fine and can buy real estate wherever the hell he wants.
Yep.
So.
real quick, can we talk before we go, two minutes.
Can we talk about his TikToks?
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Oh, I love them.
They're so cringe.
I love them because they're so bad.
Yeah.
And Duke Gomez blowing him out for him.
I loved it.
my gosh.
Like, we're just not the target demo.
Like, I mean, I said this.
Did I talk about like going on TikTok earlier or when we were recording?
I don't know if I was.
I went on TikTok for like five minutes last night because I work for a governmentcontractor.
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They block TikTok on my phone.
It's a whole stupid thing.
So I was getting on TikTok on my iPad, like the grandma that I am.
And all
TikTok is just high school girls like digitally BLEEPING Deegan.
Like some girl, she literally went up to Brian Deegan at a race and was like, hi, myfuture father-in-law.
Will you sign this for your future daughter-in-law?
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uh It's so gross.
I don't, I mean, everyone knows like I, I'm a Dungee, I'm a Dungee glazer.
Like I have the body issue where he's naked.
I would never do that.
First of all, I like Lindsay too much, but gross.
His, knows what he's doing cause his, he's got a TikTok army behind him, but they're socringe.
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yeah.
No, it's pretty bad.
It's yeah, it's pretty bad.
Look at our timer, there you go.
We gotta get outta here.
Well.
dog barking, somebody's at the door, you know, life, life alley.
good.
That's all good.
Dan, we gotta let you go and say goodbye to that pup for me.
But hey, thanks for coming on.
Thanks for chatting.
I love this dynamic.
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My Romies love you too.
So I'm hoping that they send their husbands your way to get parts, because we don't knowwhat we're talking about when it's parts.
Thumbs up, two thumbs up.
Heck yeah.
No, no worries.
The Romies love you.
Talk to you soon.
Bye.
Hey friends and welcome back to another episode of Real Housewives of Modo, the Ruts andRumbles edition.
We are on episode 17, which would be Joey Savace and I have once again convinced thelovely tool man Dan to come and give me his time.
So what's up Dan?
Well, I think this is three, right?
So I, this is, this is more than just a habit now.
Is that like, I mean, so I guess this is a thing, Ali.
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It's me and you.
It's me and you.
Ruts and rumbles on the Real Housewives of Modo.
Wow.
I can't even believe I'm part of that portion some way or another.
That's okay.
I support you.
you're one of the few men that doesn't hate me.
So I appreciate that.
Got myself into some hot water again this week, which we can talk about.
(00:47):
But yeah, episode 17.
I cannot believe we're there.
But I think it was timely.
feel like, you know, our friends over at Main Event Moto that you help out with launchedthe vintage pod.
of 2017 Vegas and I just think about poor Joey and like I don't know that his soul evercame back in his body fully.
That's what I think about when I think about Vegas.
oh
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trying to think like, is there any other race that ended like that for a championship?
mean, that was, I can't think of anything else that was like that.
Just.
can't think of anything.
mean, I think it was so many things that like we knew with the 450s coming that like itwas gonna come down to Eli and Dungey.
(01:29):
And so we just like weren't prepared for it.
I don't know.
Like I was there.
I've said it a million times on record.
But then I'm an AC fan.
You're an AC fan.
We are large AC fans.
And so I was freaking out because with the points, I'm like, I think Adam can win and Ican't do the math fast enough.
I can't do big brain math like Jet.
So I couldn't do it in the moment.
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And then the takeout and I was just like, don't, what planet are we on?
Like, so yeah, I mean, if, you could be at one race in the last 20 years, like I, I mean,I'm biased, but that one's a pretty good one.
You said two names that struck my nerve.
You want a fun fact?
Always.
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I am building a toolbox right now for Adam Cincerello and I'm also building a toolboxright now for Zach Osborne.
I like both of those humans.
They are both quality humans.
That's cool.
You should send me and or Brap Yap a sneak peek of those.
So that's fun.
I don't know, but she's really smart and really funny and really witty and really weirdlyconnected.
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People really trust her for some reason.
I don't think they should all the time, but uh she's a good one.
She does.
People talk and is dumb.
uh
One little comment on Adam.
uh He hard launched the girlfriend comment in the last episode.
I have to, I did not know.
I did not even know that he had a girlfriend.
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I didn't know who this, was her name?
Ashley Brown?
Is it Brown?
Ashley Rowan.
goes by, yeah, her business name is Ashley Nicole.
She does jewelry, that's dope.
I kind of want some.
I'm gonna be like, hey, you commissions?
So like I had no idea who this girl was.
So like, I think you posted it.
So I clicked on it cause I wanted to see who she was and she's got a shitload offollowers.
Like I didn't know.
Like I, yeah, good for Adam, dude.
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She's, you know, what's crazy.
Mm-hmm.
This is gonna be kinda mean.
But his last girlfriend, is it Jess?
Is that the British one?
No, she was a field hockey player at UMass?
Yeah.
Was she British?
Did I miss that?
I mean, I met her.
Oh, it's terrible.
I'm a terrible human.
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Yeah.
to me she wasn't very attractive, but she was super cool.
But this new one, man, she's a ripper.
ah if we have a little green tea, little cowy green tea, you know where we've seen herbefore.
Jason Anderson dated her.
my god, you're right.
Oh my god, you're right.
(04:06):
And you know, god.
Okay, that makes sense now.
She's been around.
Yep, so I posted something about them on my page and I put two green hearts andeverybody's like, I know what those two green hearts mean.
And I'm like, this is my world.
This is where I shine.
my God, now that you say it, it came back to me.
(04:29):
But you know, I was thinking about it.
I was like, she's been around Moto.
She was at the house party that Hayden Deegan was at last weekend with the face tattoogambler guy.
So I'm like, she understands the industry.
She understands when she needs to be quiet.
She knows some things you don't say on record.
So I'm like, good for him.
Good for him.
I'm all for it.
And I'm going to order some jewelry.
(04:50):
have you heard any more about the whole scandal with Mickey Mace and Jillian and Justin?
I wanna hear it, let's go.
I know, but you said the name and then I remember seeing something maybe like last week ortwo weeks ago or something like that.
(05:11):
And so then it just sparked my memory.
I will say this, and it's very similar to Hayden Deegan.
I mean, Jillian comes from money, we know that.
And I think that like Hayden, they've both lived in this world of privilege.
And at least, you know, Hayden is amazing at his craft too.
um So I don't know that they quite live in like reality, but I'm not saying that in a badway.
(05:34):
Like I'm not being like, they're so clueless.
It's just like, they're so rich and they're so famous.
Like they don't live in the same world as us.
ah And like I have friends in Tallahassee and like they've seen her at parties like atFlorida State and so I was like, this is not a good look.
So I asked around, I asked some of my people around, my girlies and they're like, youknow, I think you're dead on Ali.
Like she, you know, she just had lived in, she's lived in this, you know, very affluentworld and she loves Justin.
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you know, there's nothing weird going on.
Like she's never really had a normal childhood.
It's kind of like Hayden too.
It's like, yeah, okay, now they're adults, so to speak, and they have their own money andthey wanna go party.
But everybody was like, no, she's super down for Justin.
I think it's weird that she doesn't come to the races every weekend, but I'm also adiehard and I'm like, I would love to go to the races every weekend and be in the rigs and
(06:26):
all that.
So um I think that the internet made it out to be more than it was.
I think it was probably not a good look.
I think the video didn't make her look great, but from everybody that I talked to, theywere like, no, she's...
the down-ass chick.
I'm like, cool.
All right.
That's all I need to know.
that's, that's the T there.
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But Hey, Jillian, anytime you want to come talk, like come talk to Real Housewives Modo.
Cause I got questions.
ah Talking about things that got me in trouble on the internet this week.
We learned right before pressing record that your girl is back in Instagram jail.
Yay.
I don't know, you gotta stop getting your, I mean, we haven't been at this for that longand you've been in jail like multiple times, like I don't, you really need to watch what
(07:07):
you're saying, Ali.
it's ridiculous.
I know I'm going to I'm to pay for the stupid little blue check mark because it leads itgets you like one tenth of an amount of stuff from meta.
So anywho, I posted no actually I did not post.
I had Hayden's Snapchat sent to me several times about this retrofitted helmet that Duffhad built.
I thought it was cool and it was you know his Alpine Star's helmet and a camelback and I'mlike OK that's that's cool.
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It said you know we're to put Kool-Aid in it.
Obviously not.
um But everybody was like, was this not everybody?
My girls, girls, no man asked this.
So let me tell you, the men know they understand, but my girls were like, is this legal?
I'm like, I don't know.
I really don't know.
I know the GMCC guys do it, but I don't know where the AMA rule is playing.
So was like, let me drop the 400 page rule book into an AI bot.
(07:55):
And I asked it questions.
It basically came back and said,
If it's not modified on the bike and it was tested originally with a helmet, it's fine.
So come to find out that is the case.
It was originally built into the Alpinestars helmet.
I'm so sorry.
got really aggressive there.
I'm so sorry that I don't know everything about every accessory in Moto ever to exist orwho's run it or whatever.
(08:20):
Like there's so many people that are like AP ran it, Blake Baggett ran it, I was like, I'mso sorry.
I'm so sorry.
I'm so triggering.
But I posted a reel explaining how I came to that conclusion and the deaconites, I've justgot to think they're deaconites.
the content.
interaction and engagement that I get when I post about Deegan is like unparalleled.
(08:40):
Like I've been, I've been, you know, growing the account for about two and a half months.
The Deegan reel has like 15,000 views in less than 24 hours.
Like I'm like, this is insane.
Like, and I, and I have like 2000 followers.
So I'm like, where are where are the 13,000 views coming in?
So I got this lovely comment, which we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna talk about froma user M Weaver, six, five, eight.
(09:04):
He's got a picture with his kid and his profile.
I really hope you don't have a daughter.
So he said, definitely not the first to do it.
Blake Baggett, which I'm going to ask Kell Baggett about this, ran this for a few seasons.
Stop being a poser and jumping on the pod space cast.
That's one word.
First of all, bandwagon.
You don't know the history of this sport.
(09:25):
You sound like a delightful human.
Like how fun are you?
So I clap back, not even clap back.
I'm genuinely curious.
said, Hey question.
Respectfully, why comment that?
Like, how does it help anything?
I mean, you could have kept scrolling, but you decided to bully me instead.
You clearly don't know anything about me and my knowledge of the sport.
Also, you realize that by commenting, you're only pumping me back into your algorithm.
(09:46):
So while I appreciate your engagement, it looks like I somehow trigger you, which is sadbecause I think that we love the same sport.
So maybe you should go ahead and just block me so you don't see my content again.
I personally think that the moto content, more the better, but sorry that my lack ofunderstanding in every single accessory has offended you.
Am I off base, Dan?
No, no, you're not off base.
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So I get this, I get this quite frequently.
um It's just, it's keyboard warriors.
And I did look at Mr.
Weaver's Instagram.
He has like a handful of followers.
It's always the ones Ali that have like, nobody follows them, their account set toprivate.
It's like, I just, I don't get it, right?
Why I, and maybe this is just me.
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I am way too busy to get on the internet and start like starting crap with somebody andlike,
talking shit and I just, I have better things to do than that.
So maybe he just, maybe he doesn't have a job or maybe he's got too much time on his hand.
I don't know, right?
I don't know what his, but not just Mr.
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Weaver, it's, there's a lot of them out there, right?
But backing up what you said, uh for one, you know more than most, I would say you knowmore than 90 % of the fans out there.
Thank you.
You are very connected, ah so don't let that discourage you.
And personally, can't remember Blake Baggett running that setup, which I'm not saying thathe didn't.
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I don't remember it.
ah But whatever, cool.
ah
would be around like would you run it I mean you know I had some talks about like I feellike I'd vomit so if I'm like Zacco or Ando that like they're pukers like I wouldn't want
to drink anything during a moto like I thought that's where we were going but no no no nono we were we were going at Allie
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Well, it's, I don't know.
It's there.
There's a lot of podcasts out there, right?
And, and I'm just going to be, I'm being honest, Ali, he's probably saw your thing.
And it's like, thinks it's cheesy or corny, the real housewives thing, a woman gettinginto a predominantly male sport.
Like he, he's, he's just gonna that's, that's, that's what he's running off ofessentially.
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Right.
And so I don't know, man, let him do his thing.
You do your thing.
We all, you know, we have your back and Mike, you don't know what you're talking about,pal.
You have no clue.
Is his name Mike?
I don't know, Mike, Mike Weaver, I don't know.
I'm going to drop his handle in the show notes.
No, I'm just kidding.
I'm not that mean.
I don't care about you that much, but moving on.
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I get it on DCMX.
I'll get people that will comment about my tools and stuff.
ah Like today, ah RH22 took a picture of our brake depressor on a Tye's bike.
Basically, it holds in the ah front brake lever to open up the master cylinder, whichreleases their bubbles and stuff out the top of the master cylinder, which brings your
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firmness of your brake back.
It's $14.95, Ali.
It's $14.95 on my website.
But then you got guys that will comment like, you can just fucking use a zip tie.
You can use a rubber band.
Then do that.
Like, why are you taking the time to comment on my stuff?
Like, then go do that.
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Like, get out of here.
But it's the same type of stuff.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I get it too.
can't do it.
Yeah.
But I will say, ah if people are mean on the internet, like you're doing something right.
So I'm like, yeah, that's a good sign.
Like that means people are engaging and they're idiots.
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So moving on.
We are finally, we have a race tomorrow.
don't.
I don't know what it is about off weeks.
I'm just like, my life is so boring.
Like we don't have, I don't have any of the sports that I like.
Like I'm like, we didn't have an F1 race.
We're nowhere near college football.
Like, but we are back.
We have the WIC tomorrow.
There is drama.
What are, what is going on?
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We heard about the Conan brothers, but now they're not coming.
yeah.
yeah.
Hello.
What are we here for?
They're not coming.
I've heard they're coming and now I've heard they're not so WTF.
What have you heard?
so they, they do, they want to come here and I believe it's in their contract that they,um, can come here.
I think don't quote me.
It could be wrong, but I think in their contract, it says something like they need to wina championship and back the championship up to be able to come here or something like
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that.
But, um, I do know some folks that, you know, did talk to KTM direct in the U S and KTM.
for, you know, basically said for Southwick, it's not going to happen.
I do believe they are still trying to make this happen for Redbud.
ah It'll be interesting to see if they make it or not, but I think it'd be rad.
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And then there was talk of Hurling's also that he was going to try to come to Southwick aswell.
There was talks of that.
But.
Kyda Wolf, like know there wasn't Kyda Wolf talk, but I'm like, can you imagine if we justgot like this like random, like title wave of GP riders for like a random pro national,
like the chaos?
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gonna be wild, Is if the Kona brothers do come here for, obviously one of them is gonnarace 450, one race 250, but just putting another dynamic in the 450 class with Jet.
And obviously it's Red Bud, right?
It's 4th July weekend, it's America, you you're putting another rider from another countryin there.
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Like, I don't know, that makes it spicy, I think.
Yeah.
But let's be honest, I still think Jet has got these guys handled.
I do too.
ah I do too.
And there's no, there's no way to cut it.
I mean that, that he's not winning.
I mean, I, I so want Eli to get the starts figured out.
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Like Katie and I talked about it on Monday.
We're like, is Rhino helping him with starts?
Like is he like, is that why Rhino was there?
Like, are we pulling out all the stops so Eli can figure out starts?
I think that's the only, the only challenger.
I mean, AP has gotten a few, but ah yeah, it's, it's the jet show.
It's the Jets show, but I mean, it would be cool to see the Conan's come over and, to seewhat they could do.
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Right.
Um, it w what honestly is going to be very interesting.
I don't know if you want to segue into this, but we can, but you know, you, you have, um,Conan's potentially coming over for red bud.
You've got.
Cairoly going to be here for a few rounds for, with on Ducati.
Uh, and then you have Prado, right?
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You've got, you've got some GP riders.
that are coming over and then you've got Prado that's been here but hasn't raced a lot,right?
How does that go?
And where does everybody stack up?
And there's been some debate, right?
I've seen some debate online, you know, because Kiroli for sure is coming.
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He's coming for a couple of rounds.
Can Kiroli beat Prado?
And that's a big debate.
There's a lot of people saying that, no, there's no way Kiroli beats Prado.
But Ali, I don't know, man.
Kiroli's pretty good.
And he's been on that bike for a while.
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The bike, I think that will be here that he is riding is gonna be different than the bikethat he's probably been riding in Europe.
The engine's gonna be stock with the pipe and some mapping and stuff.
But chassis wise, it's gonna be a production chassis, essentially.
Probably a little bit different, but still, he's been on that platform for a while.
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We know Cairo is incredible, even when he was over here last, was it last year two yearsago?
He was two years ago.
He was fantastic, I thought.
ah But he's been off the bike in race shape, if you will, for a few years.
So I don't know.
But I guess that question's to you.
What do you think?
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I don't know.
I think Antonio is one of those like just freaks.
Like I put him in the Dungee league, not just because of the KTM thing, but I just thinkthat like he, he's always going to be a bad dude on a bike, you know?
So I think that he's going to be competitive.
And I think on the other side of it, not to offend your poor cowy soul, like Prado is bigtime struggling.
So, I mean, I could totally see my little, my, my moto mind, like Prado, the Kirolis, theConan's like all going to some, you know, whatever French restaurant and just being like,
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God, the American food sucks and this isn't even the worst part about my life right now.
I could see it.
I don't know, did you watch his vlog?
Did you get a chance to watch it?
Cause I've watched it twice now and I have comments.
I haven't watched it yet, but I did see the preview and you and I kind of briefly spokeabout this, but I think based on what I just the preview of the vlog and that I think says
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a lot, right?
That obviously there's issues.
They're not where they want to be currently, but they're very positive.
They've got a very positive outlook that this is going to work out and they're going toget things figured out and all is going to be fine, right?
Is that the gist of it?
Yeah.
And honestly, like, I appreciate that.
Like, I know everybody's like, my gosh, like sound the alarms for Cowie, but I'm like, Iwish we could take more of like the F1 mindset, which is like, be more transparent.
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Like you don't have to kiss the ass of your OEM.
Like, I mean, there's a fine line, but yeah, I wrote down some of my, like my favoriteparts of the vlog.
Like he calls, he calls Cowie his new family, like, and very like optimistic about it.
So like, you could see like he's going into this.
He knows what a big deal it is.
uh
He said he goes to Fox every week.
I have questions about that.
I feel like you could go to Fox every week and enjoy yourself.
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But like, what are you doing at Fox every week?
Like, I don't understand.
maybe like, some of his kits that he's been wearing, it's like a lot of the pink stuff,which I think is sick.
I like, here I am on Real Housewives of Modo saying pink is awesome.
But no, his gear is badass.
Like I like the pink look on that with the green.
I think it just looks good.
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But so he's probably doing some custom sets because I don't think that stuff is releasedto the public.
So they're probably one offset for him.
Yeah.
And it was so cool.
Like they want his feedback.
I think it's very interesting that they're talking about pink on Cowie and like we're allthinking about a four on Cowie with pink gear one day.
And so they gave Prado the pink gear.
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I'm not saying that was intentional, but I'm just like, yeah, he, it's definitely not beena a good year by any, any shape of whatever.
here's my take on this, And because what his vlog says is a little bit different maybethan what I'm hearing on the backend or maybe not, yeah, rumbles, right?
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That it's not as great as he may lead on that it is, right?
I think they are really struggling.
He's been very open about the bike.
and the bike needed more power.
And let me tell you, all the 450s in the 450 class have got plenty of power.
Does it have the power that Star Yama has?
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No, I don't think so.
But they still have plenty of power to be competitive.
That's just, that's the 450 nature.
I do know that Anderson and AC had complained in the past about the power on the newgeneration Cali.
And in stock form, like the bike and the stock platform, it is the mellowest 450 of themall except the Ducati.
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Ducati may be a little bit more mellow than the Cali, but it's the mellowest one.
But I mean, they've got these, these engine technicians, Ali, they're, they're wizards andthese ECU guys, they're wizards.
I don't think that bike is slow.
And I think Ken Roxton went on the uh AC and JB show this week.
And that was something that they had asked him is how do, what does he think about, youknow,
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blaming the bike and and and Roxton said no he doesn't believe it's the bike and here'swhat I think I think it's a lot of things I think it's the bike I think that yes maybe he
wants more power I think the transition to America the food here just the whole way oflife in America is completely different than it is in Spain right he's coming off of an
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injury he's he's moving from one
platform from a steel frame to an aluminum frame, which that alone is a big change.
So I think it's a lot of things all in one.
And the easiest thing to blame is the bike.
think you're dead right.
um You know, it's funny, I'm glad that Justin and AC asked Kenny that because if there'sanybody you want to ask that of, I mean, maybe other than like Marvin, it's Kenny.
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um I think that Kenny is an exceptional talent.
think that, I mean, we don't need to go down like the rabbit trail of like my love ofKenny again, but I had Kenny not been injured.
I think that we would have seen a run of Kenny championships.
So.
I want to caveat with, don't think that Prado is on the same level as Kenny in my mind,although I will say I did not follow Kenny in Europe in 2012.
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So like shut up.
ah But it does take a whole nother level to overcome all of those things that you talkedabout.
mean, moving to another country, moving to another platform, moving, I mean, and now he'smoving across the country from California to club.
So, I mean, that's a lot of change.
And I don't know, I don't know if like we bought into the hype, believe the hype.
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I don't know if we bought into the hype with the three-year contract.
think that was that was shocking to me that I was like, okay, because I mean, other thanlike Kenny wins the last time we saw a contract that was three to five years.
I Kenny's was five at Honda.
It was a big deal.
So I think that all of us downstream were like, okay, like show up and show out.
And yeah, he did get injured and it was it was whoops related, right?
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I think, right.
It was whoops related in practice or qualifying.
So it's like, get it.
Like you'd never seen them.
And he talks about it in the vlog.
He was like, my gosh, like whoops in life, you know, like in the flesh.
um So, I mean, I don't blame him if he's miserable.
I bet he misses his little sister.
We don't have to go there.
We're not going there.
Just go look at any of his sisters.
go.
I'm gonna get in trouble.
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But I think that's a European thing or a Spanish thing, but whatever.
You don't know what I'm talking about.
Follow me at RehasaIzumoto.
I'll send you the receipts, but I don't blame him.
I don't blame him.
I feel bad for him.
I feel bad for Cowie.
I feel bad for his dad.
His dad's been over here.
mean, really, it sucks.
I don't want to see anybody fail at that caliber.
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I don't either, but you gotta think, right?
uh Cali gave him a three-year deal because Cali believed in him, right?
And the reason they gave him a three-year deal is I think they knew that he was gonna havea challenge.
Barri, without the injury, right?
It's just a big transition from the KTM to the Kawasaki being the different chassis, likeI explained, the whole culture of here.
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just, it takes some time for these guys to acclimate.
When Ferrandes came over, he didn't start winning right away.
ah
You know, Kenny didn't, he won pretty, pretty dang quick, but it wasn't like immediate.
He didn't come here and just all of a sudden start winning this first second.
No, he did.
I'm pretty sure he won the West Coast 250s his first year.
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Was it the first year or the second year?
might've been a second year.
I'll give you that.
Kenny is a freak.
I know it's a bad example.
Let's go more with Dylan.
Tom.
VL a little bit to, to catch on.
So I think for, I think Prader needs to stick it out.
I think that they will get the bike figured out.
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mean, look, look at Ken Roxans on a Suzuki, right?
The Suzuki is like a joke in the pits at one point.
And now they're, they're selling a lot of Suzuki's now because the bike's good, right?
But it's not good in stock form.
So.
The factory Kawasaki technicians can get that bike to where it needs to be.
I guarantee you that, right?
He needs to shovel this freaking season under the carpet and move on.
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It just is what it is.
um the thing that's concerning honestly is it's like now people are starting to talk aboutchase.
How does this affect chase?
Like what is chase thinking now?
um
So that's a whole another can of worms who can maybe go down another day, but.
Yeah, yeah, I had some boots on the ground, chats about Chase and how Cowie fits into it.
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And it's just like, bro, I don't think this is what you're looking for.
I don't think what he's looking for exists, but anyhow, we won't go there.
Other things that dropped that was genius, Katie and I talked about this on Monday, butgenius on the off week, Chase dropping a hundred hours with Cole Davies.
Holy crap, so good.
So we're gonna talk about it again.
Oh, was so good.
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my gosh.
I mean, of course, like I love it because it was in Tallahassee and like it was myhometown.
And I just think about like poor little Cole, like without his driver's license, like hecan't even drive himself around.
But ah this is the kind of content that like we want to see.
Like obviously Jace has built this platform.
He is a behemoth in the Moto media, but it shows you somebody who you never would haveseen before.
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I mean, he even says it in his opening monologue that he's like, you know, normally we cansee these amateur phenoms from a mile away.
He's talking about AC, things like that.
But like Cole seemingly came out of nowhere.
I mean, we know because Daniel was involved in getting Cole over here with Will.
um But man, it just made me love him even more.
it's him being at Star and being around Deegan and like, we're not even gonna talk aboutthe Deegan takeouts and are they friends or whatever.
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He's just such a different energy in comparison to uh Deegan.
And then the fact that like he's fast when he's healthy and he's hilarious.
Like I think he's a great brand ambassador.
I just, think that
I think that Jace just like did a solid for the industry, for the audience of Modo, forCole.
um It was just perfection all the way around.
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What'd you think?
It was 100%, 100%.
It was 100 out of 10.
Jason knocked it out of the park.
I think the whole storytelling of that video was incredible.
One thing I gotta ask you, what does that little piece of property in that little house inTallahassee cost?
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Because that was looking real nice.
I like.
looked it up.
You know I looked it up.
you did.
eh
Yeah, let's just say if you dropped it down in California, it'd be like five mil.
So do the math on Tallahassee.
I'm gonna be creepy, but uh I also looked up the Deegans compound, which is like 15minutes away from my old house and my best friend's house where I stay when I go to
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Tallahassee.
And it's beautiful, the Deegans house.
And it was like 1.8 in Tallahassee.
If you want property, go to Tallahassee.
Oh, 12.5.
Yeah.
That's bad.
my gosh.
Yeah, we could talk about real estate.
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I was like, that little house with the trees and stuff, that was a cool little piece ofproperty.
just the fact that it showed that Cole struggled during the week.
That whole storytelling of he was way off the pace of the other guys, he was struggling,he overcame that.
I think that's what's cool about our sport is it's...
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That's kind of behind the curtain a little bit, right?
Because I think most people think that he is at the track every week and he's beatingDeegan and beating all these guys, but no, he was like way off the pace, but then he shows
up at the races and he's winning.
So I think that that whole thing is cool.
um I'll tell you right now that Jace has connections.
He's got connections with Red Bull.
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think he's developing connections with Monster.
It wouldn't shock me if Jace is the one, and he's also working with Wes from Verb, wouldnot shock me one bit if these guys were able to break the mold and get into Netflix.
I think you're dead on.
I said a couple episodes ago that I was like, I feel like Jace could be the Will Bruxtonof Modo.
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Will's the, know, little bit drama, little bit commentating from F1.
um If Jace doesn't want to bring the drama part of it, I would like to apply.
I would like to apply for the drama subplots.
I even told Michael Winsie, I think Michael Winsie reminds me of The Will Buxton.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Also, next time you talk to Michael, would you please tell him that his internet PDA isadorable most of the time, but sometimes makes me want to throw up.
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Most of the time it's adorable, but there's a few.
to ask you a question.
You saw the picture that he posted with his girlfriend, right?
The last one, I think they were at the beach and he had her like, okay, did you not thinkit was an engagement shoot?
I totally thought that's what it was, yes.
Okay, we, him and I just had this debate the other day, cause I'm like, dude, so like, didyou put a ring on it?
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And he's like, no, I don't know why everybody's asking me that.
I'm like, are you serious?
Like you put the white heart.
Michael, Michael, everybody thought that was an engagement photo.
No, everybody thought that.
so delusional.
He's like, no, I don't think so.
And I'm like, yeah, bro, with the white heart is the comment and everything.
Like, come on.
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Anyhow.
tell you two other images that had me thinking something and everybody in my DMs wassaying the same thing.
And so I went and told them, um Justin Barsha came back to talk about his injuries acouple of months ago and it was like close up on his face.
And I just like panicked.
was like, he's retiring.
He's not coming back from injury.
my gosh.
Like, so I sent it to Amber and I was like, Hey, I like my girls agree with me that likewe were panicking about this, that Justin was retiring.
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She was like, my gosh, I never even thought of that.
So that was one.
The second one was when Jaleik Swole came back and Jaleik posted that black and whitephoto.
I don't know what it is.
I have like PTSD with Moto Media and black and white, but it's like, I see black and whiteand I automatically think it's going to be a retirement thing.
So I sent that to his girlfriend, Sophia said the same thing.
She was like, my God, I don't even think about these things, but you're so right.
And it's just like, I don't know.
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We're just so conditioned to have a reaction.
You know, that's what social media is for, but yeah, I, uh, I love Real Housewives of Motobecause
the collective think tank of female fans think the same way and all of them thought thatMichael had been engaged.
That's, yeah, well.
It kills me, but going back to Gypsy and $100 of Cole Davies, he has Hopper on thismorning.
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I started listening to the episode right before we started record.
He goes into talking about Hopper's question of AP about the Eli thing and then math isgetting mad.
But what I really giggled at is that he goes, he's like, okay, pookie because math ispookie.
And I'm like, it's just so good because it's like, it's a dig, but it's, it's got layers.
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And like, if we have to explain the layers to you, it's not funny, but
Dang, it was good.
It was a good one.
you know, you know, we, I listened to the pulp show a little bit this week because I was,I did a little bit of driving and I normally don't listen to pulp.
You got, you know, why our listeners, if they know me well enough, they know why too.
But, but it was so funny because, uh, they were talking about it.
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Right.
And then, uh, Berluti was in studio and he was in studio with skip Norfolk and, um, Idon't know, it came up and, uh, Steve was like, you know, you can, you can not like me
because this, this and this and.
you know, but you know, and you cannot like me because I don't like Trump and blah, blah.
And Berluti is like, what?
You don't like Trump?
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Like added.
Did you hear that?
my God, I was I was.
didn't even stop though.
He was like, nope, he just kept on talking.
m
Burley was like, huh.
I don't know, I thought it was funny.
Well, I mean, nobody has ever accused Dan of not being a patriot, but I have to ask you, Ihave to ask you something that started on another podcast that is is pertaining to your
patriotism.
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So don't don't kill me.
Desnations talk like how does this go down if Chase goes to Cowie on October one?
But Desnations is after that and KTM is not going to like want him on their bike at thatpoint.
So like who?
siding with?
Are you siding with Cowie or are you siding with America?
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I'm put you on spot.
Allie, in this forum and not when I'm laying on a massage table, getting a massage afterthe, I'm just gonna blow him out, it's Daniel.
Daniel's blowing me up, blowing me up as I'm trying to get a massage, because he needs ananswer to his question.
But, uh so.
I had to ask it.
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Daniel, it's my fault.
America or Cali, we gotta know.
The fans are dying to know.
oh
think the question, and God bless Tutu because Tutu had to break it down to me because Iwas like half asleep when I was asked this.
anyhow, basically if Chase is asked to ride for this nations, motocross of nations, andCowie would not let him ride a KTM for the race, and Cowie would not support
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chase on a kawi at motocross of nations because they they typically don't want to beinvolved for whatever reason which is stupid would i side with kawasaki or would i side
with america that's the question
Drum roll.
I'm siding with America.
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I'm shocked.
think that there is a time and a place where you have to bend the rules and the contractsa little bit.
thought you were going say bend the knee.
I thought you were going say bend the knee.
Oh no, no, no, we don't bend no knee in alley.
We don't bend a knee alley.
Um, and I think this is one of them, right?
This is like the biggest, arguably the biggest race of the year.
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Every, the whole world looks forward to this.
We have had a tough time in the recent years, uh, you know, winning what across thenations.
Um, we did obviously with chase Eli and Justin Cooper, but I, yeah, I think you have to, Ithink you have to, and honestly, I think.
I think that's good for Kawasaki, even if they were to allow him to race to KTM, I thinkthat's a good look for Kawasaki to be quite honest.
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It's a great PR movie.
So I don't know what will happen either because you know, just corporations, they justdon't give a shit.
know, it's all about dollars and cents.
But I think they should.
Or Kawasaki, if you're listening, please prepare a motorcycle for Chase Sexton.
What a great way to step back into motocross of nations, right?
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uh Having the previous national champion on uh Kawasaki for the race, I think that's epic.
Obviously he won't.
I think Jet's gonna be the current national champion, but the past national champion, Ithink you gotta do it.
And he's been on winning teams before, so.
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I just had a thought.
So when you win designations, you get to run one, two, three the next year, correct?
So Jet or Hunter could potentially be running the three in Eli's last designations.
I hate that.
I hate that.
That's so weird to me, but I'm like, run your normal number.
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there's two 17s to this episode, like we're not dumb.
I don't know.
Some of us are dumb.
I take that back.
uh
a triple digit when they, the year that they won?
Wasn't it like one, wasn't it like one, wasn't it like 101 or something like that or 111or something like that?
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Yeah.
it, America and Europe, have very different views, but ah to bring it back full circle, towrap this bad boy up, ah going back to the top of the episode, Deegan, Deegan doesn't go
this year.
What is the interwebs going to do?
He's.
got zero excuse not to go.
Do we really think he's not gonna go?
(38:15):
I don't know.
don't know.
feel like last year he had no excuse, but then it was like the elbow or whatever.
And yeah, I mean, like, why not?
If you're healthy and you've dominated the outdoors and you dominated Supercross and youlove America, why not?
So I think it's a bad look if he doesn't.
is absolute, I mean, I didn't think last year there was an excuse for it.
(38:37):
This year, there is absolute zero, zero excuse for it.
You can't use the excuse, I need to prepare for Supercross, because I need that Supercrosstitle.
He's got it.
He's gonna back it up easily.
He's gonna move on to 450s for outdoors.
In fact, I think he probably steps up to 450 at Supercross.
(38:58):
I've heard no that's not gonna happen, but it wouldn't shock me.
But I think he defends, right?
The 250, super cross title.
there's zero reason not to go.
And honestly, if he doesn't go, it was a bad look last year.
It's gonna be an even worse look this year.
But at the end of the day, does he care?
(39:19):
Like do you think he really cares?
Because I don't.
Nope.
Nope.
I think when you're that rich and you're that famous and you're that good at what you do,you live in a whole other head space.
So no, I don't think he cares.
Did he really buy that apartment or that condo on top of that building with the pool?
Did you see that?
I did and I'm trying to find some addresses so I can look it up and use my investigativejournalism skills, but it wouldn't surprise me.
(39:46):
No, wouldn't surprise me at all.
I I think that what the Moto Media world is saying that Hayden's bringing in, I think isnot correct.
I think it's low.
And so I think he's fine and can buy real estate wherever the hell he wants.
Yep.
So.
real quick, can we talk before we go, two minutes.
Can we talk about his TikToks?
(40:08):
Oh, I love them.
They're so cringe.
I love them because they're so bad.
Yeah.
And Duke Gomez blowing him out for him.
I loved it.
my gosh.
Like, we're just not the target demo.
Like, I mean, I said this.
Did I talk about like going on TikTok earlier or when we were recording?
I don't know if I was.
I went on TikTok for like five minutes last night because I work for a governmentcontractor.
(40:30):
They block TikTok on my phone.
It's a whole stupid thing.
So I was getting on TikTok on my iPad, like the grandma that I am.
And all
TikTok is just high school girls like digitally BLEEPING Deegan.
Like some girl, she literally went up to Brian Deegan at a race and was like, hi, myfuture father-in-law.
Will you sign this for your future daughter-in-law?
(40:50):
uh It's so gross.
I don't, I mean, everyone knows like I, I'm a Dungee, I'm a Dungee glazer.
Like I have the body issue where he's naked.
I would never do that.
First of all, I like Lindsay too much, but gross.
His, knows what he's doing cause his, he's got a TikTok army behind him, but they're socringe.
(41:12):
yeah.
No, it's pretty bad.
It's yeah, it's pretty bad.
Look at our timer, there you go.
We gotta get outta here.
Well.
dog barking, somebody's at the door, you know, life, life alley.
good.
That's all good.
Dan, we gotta let you go and say goodbye to that pup for me.
But hey, thanks for coming on.
Thanks for chatting.
I love this dynamic.
(41:32):
My Romies love you too.
So I'm hoping that they send their husbands your way to get parts, because we don't knowwhat we're talking about when it's parts.
Thumbs up, two thumbs up.
Heck yeah.
No, no worries.
The Romies love you.
Talk to you soon.
Bye.
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