Ep. 9 - Interview: Bradi Bowers - Real Housewives of Moto

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I found you, which I was like, damn it, I need to go back to my personal one and figureout like when I found you because I, I mean, it was years ago.
I know that, but then when you were pregnant, when, what is Max's birthday?
We're close.
of 2017.
so I was a month behind you because I remember being like when you would share updates, Iwas like, we are so close.

(00:22):
And I was just like, my gosh, this is so cool.
There was a couple of people, think like Paige Brayton Beckham is born around the sametime.
like everybody's journeys.
And I was like, my gosh, I love this.
I just felt so like connected to you guys as like mothers.
And then like when you started posting about postpartum depression, I was like, oh, thisis a girl's girl.
Like she gets it.
And my gosh.

(00:44):
We're all struggling.
it's a nightmare.
It is truly a nightmare.
that just hooked me from there.
was like, sign me up.
I guess it was like, year did Tyler and Cooper having their shit?
I remember watching that and there was a clip that they did that was like, I'm not here tomake friends.
And I was just like, I don't understand how a guy like that gets a girl like Brady.

(01:09):
It was, oh, you know.
think you can change people.
Girl, that's a good problem us women have.
So, anyhow, I'll do a whole intro.
This will get clipped.
This is not going on there.
But ah I want to start with just like who you are, where were you born and raised?
How'd you end up where you are?
So let's start at the beginning.

(01:31):
Who is Brady?
Okay.
I actually, I'm from Florida.
I'm from Orlando, Florida.
So, you know, uh during COVID I moved back here from divorce and then obviously the worldshuts down.
So I am back in Florida.
uh I do love Florida.
mean, being in California for around 10 years definitely, you know, brings a differentlifestyle just to anyone.

(01:55):
You know, you can go to the mountains, you can go to the beach, you can, you know, snow,whatever you need to do.
uh
Orlando, Florida, all my family lives here.
So we have a lot of help with Maxwell and I mean, we're back so.
That's so funny.
Did you go to high school in Orlando?
I have lived in Florida my whole life.

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I went to college here and then as soon as I graduated college, I moved to California in2012.
So, I was, yeah.
big moves.
Okay, and then modeling, where does modeling come in?
Where's, what's the timeline with that?
I started modeling whenever I was 13 years old.
I was with an, yeah, I was with an agency.
I would go down to Miami a lot.

(02:38):
Um, actually, you know, me and my, one of my still current best friends.
Um, I was 13, about to be 14.
She's almost four years older than me.
And she was like a sister role model.
And like, we'd go down to Miami all the time for like, you know, casting calls and jobs.
And then I was kind of like, maybe I won't do this.
And then this is how far I'm like, I don't even want to.

(02:59):
give my age but like, geez Louise, I had my space.
I had my space account.
Yes.
And like, if you made me mad, you're bottom of the top eight or you're off.
Um, and that's actually that's actually how I met Kelly Louch is actually through thatsame girlfriend.
And she was dating a wake border.
So she was older.

(03:21):
I feel like I looked older whenever I was younger because I was so tall.
And then I hung out with older people and Kelly Louch was like, Can you come work but Iwasn't of age.
And so we waited a few years, obviously.
And so I was about to be 18 the first time I worked for Kelly.
But it all started with MySpace, which half of these kids now probably listening are like,what is MySpace?
But it was the best coding thing ever.

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I thought I was working for Google.
Literally.
I was like, oh my god.
But whenever I tell people, oh, and they're like, how long have you been with Monster?
How long have you worked
Kelly Louch.
I'm like my space face.
So if you can't do the math and just move on.
Um, but yeah.
so funny.

(04:05):
Gosh, I had somebody ask me the other day, one of the girls that I work with, like myteam, I have a girl on my team who's 24, and she was like, was Myspace like a real thing
or is it just like a meme?
And I was like, I can't, I can't.
That just made me feel so old.
She's like, is it real?
I'm like, no, it was real.
Yes, that's it.
No, really.
And I remember it was like a big deal when you like removed Tom from your top eight, youknow, and it's like, oh, now you're like a real, real, oh my gosh.

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Wasn't he like permanently on there and then all of sudden like you could get rid of himand everyone's like trash?
yes, lit.
my gosh.
I literally remember coming home from school and like everybody on.
Do you have a Zanga?
Do remember what Zanga was?
It was like a.
I was like the little emo kid, so I had a full on Zanga.
I remember people were like you can remove Tom.
You can have eight full people like yeah, no, I get it.

(04:50):
That's so funny.
Yeah.
So my taste things got me into, you know, monster energy and just action sports.
And obviously my career is definitely due to Kelly Louch.
mean that, you know, she was like a mother figure for me.
And then, you know, I just carried on for, think it was like my, did my last race lastFebruary and I don't even say we haven't broken up, but like my life has gotten hectic.

(05:15):
But yeah, last year was my last year was my 15th year with her.
And so like,
That's crazy.
That's a long relationship.
That is.
And that it's so successful and that you guys like each other.
And I mean, that's a lot of female energy, you know, in such a male dominated space.
Like, how do you navigate that?
I mean, I've, you know, I've done my research.
I've listened, I've re-listened to all the, the Brady media in the, you know, modosphere.

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Like, how do you, how do you deal with like new girls coming in and you had saidsomething, you were like, it's always a new blonde.
And I was like, I love that.
You're like, oh no, it's a new blonde who's getting the axe.
So like, how do you deal with newbies?
Like.
What is that like?
I will say like one of my strengths is my gut.
And I'm also like a girl's girl.
So like I can pretty much figure you out within just a couple seconds of just observingyou.

(06:04):
I'm very observational.
uh And you would just know immediately.
And so like me and Kelly would have this unspoken eye contact.
Like I don't need to say anything.
Also, I think sometimes like people think I'm a little cold when you first meet me, butI'm really just like,
let me observe you.
Let me watch your actions.
Let me watch your interactions.
Like let me see like if like what you're saying here matches what you're saying overthere.

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Like, you know, cause people are chameleons a lot, especially females.
Um, and for me, like, you know, we would get a lot of girls that were from pageantsbecause you know, they're, they're poised and they can hold themselves together.
But the negative part with girls in pageants is they're competing against each other.
That's what they know.
So
you come in, I'm not a pregnant girl.

(06:51):
My, my mouth is literally a sailor.
am my father's daughter.
I wouldn't, I wouldn't be good in this space, but like, you know, these girls come in andlike, we're not competing.
Nobody gets a trophy.
We're all going to be on a podium.
We're all going to have a chance to do something.
Nobody is better than anyone else.
We're all, we're all getting paid.

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So like, you just do your job and then you go home.
like,
you trying to like be caddy to me does nothing.
And so like, you know, I could look at Kelly and Kelly, you know, also would be like, I'mvery sarcastic.
So like, you know, new girls would come in and like, I am very witty.
And sometimes I'm also shocked at what I said.

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And she'd be like, whatever she says, like, take it with a grain of salt.
Like she doesn't mean it.
And I'm like, maybe I do.
She's like, stop.
Maybe I do mean it, you know?
she was like, please stop.
yeah, like with new girls, like it was always fun and interesting.
Cause like, I maybe should have been a psychologist cause I love to just like study peopleand like know why you do what you do.
Yeah.

(07:53):
you've got a good read on people, you know?
So that's definitely not something you can learn.
Like you've got to have that like innate in you.
And especially like the number of people that you're interacting with when you're working,like that's so much energy coming at you.
And like, we're going to talk about hair, but like that's so much energy and like people'slike positive and negative energy.
Like that's a whole world.

(08:13):
Like I know nothing about, so like I work in marketing.
I sit behind my computer all day.
Like I don't have to deal.
If I don't want to deal with somebody I'm like,
close the computer, you know, like you can't walk away.
That's incredible.
So long ass career, we are still working it.
You are a mom, which is where I really fell in love with Brady.
I was telling Brady before we started recording.
So uh Brady's daughter, Maxwell and my son, Kai are, we figured a month apart.

(08:39):
I remember, I don't know that we had never interacted like Brady, Brady and I have nevermet.
think there was like in passing at
uh a press conference.
was like, I don't know if she knows who I am, but like you're passing me the microphone.
I'm like, that's my girl.
So we've never actually met, but I felt so bonded to Brady throughout the pregnancies andI had no idea like what was going on with your marriage and Tyler will get there.

(09:02):
ah But then afterwards, like you were so vulnerable about postpartum depression and justlike the emotional shit show that we go through as like first time moms and having
newborns and
I just remember like, have to tell this girl like how inspired I am by her because of hervulnerability and her rawness.
And there's just such a taboo about talking about like female mental health.

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And then coupled with the fact that you're like this gorgeous six foot tall, likeAmazonian warrior woman, you know, people are like, yeah, she's got all her shit together.
Everything's perfect.
And it's like, no, that's not the case.
like walk me through, my first question is that I'm curious about, I'm going to ask allthe Moto moms, how did you decide
when to have Maxwell and like did it line up with Tyler's racing and like how do youthat's my first question how did you guys decide and what's the timeline and if we need a

(09:52):
clip we can clip
so I, we, at one point we were deciding that we wanted to get pregnant and I had been onbirth control actually for a really long time because you know, that's what your doctor
does.
You got an emotional problem, birth control.
you got a heavy menstrual birth control.

(10:12):
like you got an A on your test, birth control.
Like they're just always throwing it at you.
So I've always was on birth control also.
Like my mom took me to the doctor and you know, where are we evolved and helped, whichthat's a whole deal now.
But you know, back in the day, you just did what your doctor told you.
So here my mom is and I'm on birth control and we're doing this and whatever.
And like, that was just the way of life.
um Get off birth control and you know, I couldn't get pregnant and no.

(10:40):
Yep.
Well, my, you know, my levels were so low because I had been on it for so long.
My body was so used to being stimulated by.
Mm-hmm.
Yep.
longer was producing things.
So that was a whole journey in itself.
Actually, I got put on like a progesterone pill, you know, they're like, let's try thisfirst.
Let's just see what happens.
I remember the first week I was on it, I was actually going to Japan with Monster torelease Monster in Japan.

(11:05):
And we had a 13 hour flight from LA and I was with Kelly.
And I'm like, I am not well and now I am not well in Japan.
Like now I need to go figure out what
I don't even know what I need, like this progesterone had made me so sick.
So, know, from the beginning, like wasn't a great journey for me.
I also think looking back now, like God was protecting me and I just really wanted afamily.

(11:28):
uh And then finally, at one point I said, you know what, like, I don't know if this is forme, like, I'm not going to try.
And I thought, I thought for sure I wanted a child at 30 years old.
I was so much in my career.
And I was thriving and I was so successful, but like there were so many things too withMonster.
Like I was going so many places in different countries and like there was so much on mybucket list that I wanted that I was like, you know what?

(11:54):
30 years old would be a good age for me.
So like I need to pump the brakes and I need to do stuff for myself.
And then life throws you a curve uh ball and next thing you know, I was pregnant and I waslike, shit, what do I do now?
Like I'm pregnant and I had.
I gave up a plan to start a new plan and then you know, that's what life does for you.
for a little bit I was freaking out like I wasn't ready for this.

(12:18):
Like I finally had, know, stopped trying and here I was.
uh And so with Maxwell, definitely timing was not well.
We also were having cracks in our marriage then.
And like as anyone know, like a child does not save a marriage.
So like it was just like a lot of layers.
It wasn't a lot of layers in the mix, like, you know, I wasn't going to come out and saythis on Instagram, but you know, now total open book and I've always been open book, but

(12:49):
like, you know, obviously there's just some things you just, you keep inside your walls.
Yeah.
yeah.
Man, that is so hard.
um I think that, so I've dabbled in the birth world.
I am like super, super passionate about like supporting moms and supporting moms goingthrough infertility and figuring out, you know, what your birth plan is and breastfeeding
and like what your body is like afterwards and like all of that.

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Like, it's so funny between like moto and that.
And like, also like, love crocheting.
I'm like an 80 year old woman or like a 15 year old boy.
Like my personality can't decide what it is.
So like.
When I'm watching you guys from afar as just a fan of the sport and just a fan of theindustry and thinking about lining up timelines with your then husband's career and the
hormones that go with it and literally you're making a living off of your body.

(13:35):
That's your business.
um Don't even start about international travel.
That sounds like a nightmare.
What was it like being pregnant?
Did you enjoy it?
I think about the black dress, the maternity shoot.
that's like burned into my brain.
I just remember being like, this woman is stunning.
Like stunning.

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So side note, loved it.
But how was pregnancy and you know, becoming a mom for you?
Um, like I said, I did struggle in the beginning because I was like, now it's not a partof the plan.
I am such a planner.
Give me a goal and I will reach it and I will do it.
So now I'm like, how, I mean, as I think any like maybe wife, girlfriend, potential girlthat wants to be like in this industry, ah especially for what I did for a line of work.

(14:21):
Yes.
My body was my job.
Like I think people think, these girls just show up.
I'm not, I mean, I'm naturally a lanky person because I'm tall, but like,
I mean, you know, I can't eat whatever I want to do.
I have to work out.
have to put time into myself, not as much anymore, but you definitely during, you know, init.
And then all of a sudden you're like, I'm growing a human inside of me.

(14:42):
Like everything is out of whack.
Nothing is normal.
And I was shifting.
Well, also as most women in the sport know, if you have someone that is your partner, um,your life can change tomorrow.
There could be.
you know, as we've seen two people become, you know, paralyzed this year, your life willinstantly change or if they get hurt and they're like, you know, whatever their contracts

(15:09):
are, like, you know, now we're getting docked money.
Like it was a very high, it's a high and low sport.
It is a very risky place.
And I think, you know, yeah, if you're a top writer, you're making good money.
But like we all know after probably fifth place,
Mm-hmm.
your life for really nothing whenever you look at the grand scheme of things.

(15:30):
Um, so for me, I was, I always wanted to work to knowing what like tomorrow could change.
And then now I'm pregnant.
So I'm like, where's my limit with this?
So for me, it was definitely hard.
I actually worked for Ashley Grant's mom during the week, which nobody knew becauseactually Tyler was racing for some Yamaha team and something happened.
And I just,

(15:51):
I never could count on the sport as a financial stability for me.
And like, I'm just not raised that way.
I am a workhorse.
Um, so I was like, I will go get a job during the week.
worked for Ashley Grant's mom, Monday through Thursday, Friday through Sunday.
I worked for monster and I was so sick.
am like never sick.
And I am like dying sick.
I'm throwing up.
Like I can't even drink water.

(16:12):
I had like something where like, I basically lost 15 pounds my first trimester.
Cause I just, it was brutal.
And
Yeah, yes.
And I'm like, I have to race and Kelly goes, you need to get your what is going on, go tothe doctor.
But knowing I'm pregnant, I'm like, can't tell her.
And obviously, you never know.
And she's like, Can you please go to the doctor?
What is with you?

(16:32):
And I'm like, Yeah, I will totally go to the doctor.
Um, I already know what's wrong with me.
And so she's like, get it together.
So you know, actually, I think I was probably three and a half, four months pregnantbefore I told Kelly, because I
didn't want to lose my job.
I loved my job.

(16:52):
Like again, workhorse.
So I probably told Kelly like, yeah, three and a half, four months.
I was like, Hey, like, I want to tell you something.
And she was like, it better be what I think it is.
I'm like, okay, well, it definitely is.
But we're wearing a corset.
So like, we'll tie that baby tight.
And so around like, around six and a half, I was like, probably six months, I was like,all right, like I gotta, I gotta go home.
And so yes, I worked Monster until I was six months pregnant.

(17:15):
So it's like,
It was very hard to watch my body change in an atmosphere around these girls.
And you're like, my God, like I am exploding.
Like all of a sudden out of nowhere, you your ligaments start giving and your belly isgrowing and all of these things.
And luckily I am tall, so I hit it really well for a while, but it was, uh it's crazy tothink back and think I was pregnant for six months working.

(17:37):
That's incredible.
Like I remember listening to something, some interview that you gave and you were justtalking about like, like your shoe choice when you're on your feet so long and just
thinking about like, okay, not only like your feet aching on a normal day, but like you'readding an extra human, your ligaments are all loose, you know, you're exhausted, you feel
like crap, you know, you need to snack every five seconds, but you can't like, that isinsane.

(17:59):
Like, I have so much respect.
and I, and nobody knew around me, right?
But there's, um, there's a guy at Kawasaki and I'm pretty sure he's still at Kawasaki.
I couldn't see him leaving, but his name is Theo.
And I was like, Theo, I have to tell you something, but you can't tell anyone, which likehe is like my, my ride or die.
Like everyone was always like, it's like Brady, his wife and like, whatever.

(18:22):
Like Theo was just like such a good human to me.
And like, just, I do, I loved him.
Yes.
And I was like, I think I'm pregnant.
Hmm
don't, and like, we don't really have a lot of options to eat all day or even have water.
And so he would be like bringing me oranges and snacks and waters.
And everyone's like, what is this guy doing?
Bringing you food or like water and checking on you all the time.

(18:43):
I'm like, he just genuinely cares.
That's so sweet.
Yeah, and he held it in.
He never told anyone.
Yeah.
shout out Theo.
If you're still at Cowee, I'm gonna find your boss and say you deserve a raise.
Just, you know, from seven years ago.
such a good family to me as well.
They were.
that.

(19:03):
So at this time, things are not great with Tyler.
This is not the Tyler show.
We all know what happened there.
He knows from the jump.
You tell him early on, you're just freaking out.
Is he supportive?
Is he in his own head?
What was that conversation like?
You know, I will always tell people Tyler was probably the best to me while pregnant withMax.

(19:28):
I will also say, you know, Tyler to me versus Tyler to his daughter, they're two differentpeople.
Like he does show up for her in like ways that like he never showed up for me.
Like, which I would 100 % take that like she deserves everything.
But whenever you look at it, you're like, if he wanted to, he would like

(19:50):
And that's where, know, I like with girls, you know, obviously again, like I having adaughter, like you want her dad to show up for them.
So I am 100 % so proud of that part.
But like you do look back and you're like, huh.
Yeah, that's brutal.
Goodness, I cannot even believe, I mean, that's just so intense.
So what we get to, we get to, you know, Q3 of 2020 or 2017.

(20:13):
It's such a blur for me too, because I'm like, I was becoming a first time mom and youknow, what is her birth story like?
Did you enjoy that?
I mean, like I know for me, like my first was a C-section and I remember the day, like itwas day four of his life where like my hormones just took a nose dive.
And I was like, I don't like this.
Like, I hate this.
Like, what is going on in my head?

(20:33):
What's going on in my body?
So like, what was her birth story?
You could share as much or as little.
I am a self-proclaimed birth nerd.
And then like, what were those early indicators of like, I don't feel quite right.
Maxwell's birth story is probably my favorite because it happened so fast.
It happened so fast and I was like, oh my God, I would so rather do labor than ever bepregnant again, right?

(20:56):
So was like my pregnancy, I was sick the whole time.
I couldn't eat.
It was really rough on me, but labor, I was like, we're done, let's go.
And I just remember I was like, okay, I'm ready to go home.
And then whenever I got home, I was like, let me go back.
And they're like, you can't come back.
And I was like,
My one thing, you know, now like with clients or, you know, women, I'm like, stay theextra day, even if you think you're ready to go home, stay the extra day, please, for the

(21:22):
of God, stay, you need as much help and as much recovery time as possible.
Because as soon as you go home, that's when she gets real.
Yeah, good night.
cannot even, I can't even imagine.
there is no racing around then unless Tyler was doing like off season races.
so what is it?
What is, I'm trying to think.
It's a blur.

(21:44):
Yeah.
was the end of everything.
I think it goes later now, but then no.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I was like, we didn't have SMX.
We didn't have all that.
But I was like, I can't remember if he had gone back to Europe or whatnot.
So you come home and you're like, WTF?
Like, is this?
What is this little tiny person that now is like tethered to me and I'm responsible for?
What?
How are you feeling?
How are you feeling about your body?
How are you feeling about going back to work?
I have all the questions.
I'll slow down.

(22:05):
I I think, think too, like, you know, they're always like, especially like for me, right?
Being you look at your body every day and you hold yourself accountable per your body.
Like everyone was like, do not look at yourself.
Like it will be etched in your brain.
Do not look at yourself.
So what's the first thing I do?
I'm like, I'm looking at myself.

(22:27):
This is a big comeback story.
oh but like, whenever I got home, you know, for us, like we had no family.
So it was really hard.
And like my friends, a lot of my friends never had kids, so they're useless.
Like, so that part was really hard.
And Maxwell's Maxwell's always been like, I remember calling my mom and I was like, it'sbeen changed.

(22:48):
She's been fed and she will, she just is staring at me.
Like I thought they slept like
Yeah.
gosh.
sleeper.
And so then come, you know, fall, yeah, Tyler was going to Germany.
So now I'm like the stay at home mom.
I don't know what I'm doing.
I have zero help.
Like I am literally going on Google, like how to survive, how to this, my child's this, isthis normal?

(23:14):
Reddit pages.
Like Google very much helped me become the mom I am today.
So shout out.
But I um remember
immediately being like, want go back to work.
you know, Maxwell was born in August, like late August.
And then I was back at uh Monster Cup in October, like there was no time.

(23:35):
And I, I, um I give myself a lot of credit.
I didn't then but like now knowing like who I was and what happened, like I, I am veryproud of myself.
I mean, that is, it's a big thing, like
You know, it's, hard already.
And then I was just like, ah again, like I told you before, like I am a workhorse andthat's what I love.

(24:00):
And I find value in myself by working.
Um, but like, yeah, I think even still now watching Maxwell, know, she watches me in mycurrent day and I hope to God, like whatever she gets is, you know, work ethic.
So we'll see on that.
Yeah.
not to see.
She's got a warrior for a mama.
So, all right.
So this is end of 2017.

(24:22):
Got max at home.
Things are mentally not feeling great.
Like that's when you started sharing.
That's when I was picking up on, this girl is going through the same thing that I am.
And like, I don't, if you haven't walked through postpartum, your brain is not a safespace.
Like your brain is lying to you, which is such a weird thing to explain to somebody thatdoesn't know like what's going on.
And I don't know if you had like the intrusive thoughts, but like I would be holding myson, like walking down the stairs.

(24:45):
I'm like, what happens if I like just drop him down the stairs?
And not that I wanted to hurt him, but like those are the crazy thoughts that come intoyour head.
Like, I don't know.
Did you experience any of that where you're just like, what is my brain?
I started noticing one, was like, I know I was exhausted.
So was like, I'm exhausted.
And then I, you know, I was back at Monster and I was also back working for Ashley Grant'smom.

(25:07):
So like, I was back into things trying to figure out and navigate my life.
But that's just like what we do, we're human.
Like this is, this is how it's supposed to go.
Other people do it.
So you should be able to do it.
You're good at this, like whatever.
And ah once I started to stop,
breastfeeding and things were starting to shift again, which you know, they don't tell youabout how many shifts you're going to take.

(25:28):
And everyone's just like, it's so great.
And this is so lovely.
I would do it again.
And then I'm like, okay, everyone else is so perfect.
Why am I not feeling that way?
And I remember, you know, going back online and seeing if I was normal.
And then I like, you know, talk to my doctor and she was like, I think you're okay.
Like you don't have like, I wasn't

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I wasn't depressed where I'm like, want to hurt myself.
I want to hurt my child.
But I was having those and like, was like, okay, I'm going to go to Target and at Target.
What if this happened?
Do what do I do?
Like, and so then I just had basically, like, you know, they don't really talk about thepostpartum anxiety.
They just say you have PPD.
I had a lot of postpartum anxiety.

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I wasn't depressed.
I was exhausted and a little depressed.
Like this is my life.
But like,
the anxiety of every thought I would have these visions that I'd get in this car accident.
And was this white car, which I had a white car.
So then I would stop driving.
And then next thing you know, like you're, you're staying in and you're not, you're not,you're, you're, the walls are closing in on you, but like you're, you're, you're anxious.

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So like you're in this rotation.
And so I actually read a book and you know, I had a couple of doctors and you know, wefigured it out and
I just at that moment was like, I have a following and I have women followers and they'relooking at me and I am one of those girls right now that acts like this is perfect.

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And I am dying inside.
So when I came out about postpartum, I still have people to this day.
I mean, I'm almost eight years out of this that are like, you touched me.
And I actually, my client this morning that I was with,
Um, you know, I was living in California at that time, but her husband, grew up with, andhe reached out to me like, you know, forever ago and was like, I'm sharing this post, my

(27:19):
wife needs to talk to you.
And like, even, even today, like she was like, isn't it just so crazy that like, you know,Bobby sent me your story and like, it just brought me so close to you.
And I just immediately felt like I knew you.
And obviously I didn't know you at all.
I knew you from like you being from the hometown, but like, I've never felt closer withsomebody.
And.
exactly how I felt.

(27:40):
Yeah.
And so I remember.
you do that?
Why would you put your personal information?
But you know, that generation, they kept everything inside their house where ourgenerations like, let me help, let me explain, let me, you know, share, we were over
shares.
I am a yapper to by default, I just I am.

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And the outreach that I had, though, and I definitely felt power in that, that like, if Ican help just
one person and make someone feel normal because you I was looking at other wives thatportrayed this perfect household.
That's not real because I was suffering like how many other people are suffering and likethey didn't know.

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Yeah, I mean, like I'm like literally tearing up just like, oh, I'm like, I'm so proud,like just proud from afar because yeah, there's such a taboo about talking about like, I
don't know, like female mental health in general, let alone like, you know, postpartumpostpartum depression, postpartum anxiety.
I got postpartum OCD, which I thought my OCD was like under control.

(28:43):
And then I became a mom and it was like, I'm neurotic.
Like I'm on another level.
You don't know who you are.
You don't trust yourself.
And then the fact that like you were, you had no support.
were
you Tyler was in another continent.
that's just, it's just a recipe for disaster.
Like it's just like, yeah, everything that could go wrong.
Good.
You know.
what's going wrong.
And I'm like, literally, I'm like, I'm like, literally, yeah, I'm like, you're gone.

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And then you're like, you're fine.
And I'm like, you're not here doing this.
And then I remember him being gone.
And you know, like, everything's crumbling on me.
And next thing you know, I get my first menstrual cycle.
And I was like, if God does not hate me, he does now.
And you're alone.
And you're just like, oh, my goodness gracious, like, what is happening?

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And I think anyone
Yeah, and like being alone and in those intrusive thoughts of like what is happening likeit was very real and raw and like I just really wanted like I said I wanted to help people
and make them feel like they were not alone.
I freaking love that.
I honestly like everything that I've heard from you through social media, throughinterviews and things like that.

(29:53):
I love hearing you guys, you ladies combat the modeling stereotypes and things like that.
And I'm like, look at what this woman did who had this platform and was like going throughhell, going through the depths of it.
And not only being like, hey, I'm like a badass woman and I'm smart and like, don't touchme.
listen to what I'm going to do with my platform.
And I just think that's like incredible because so many people, know, or so many women arejust going to suffer in silence and think that like, yeah, this is, this is normal,

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whatever.
And then here's Brady being like, nah, it's normal, but it's not like go get the help youneed.
And I, that was one of things that I just kept coming back to that I was like, okay, ifthis woman was gorgeous woman who was jet setting all over the world and has this tiny
human.
I remember
When you came back, I'm glad you said it was Monster Cup because I was like, was itMonster Cup?
That would have been like six weeks, but that's when I remember it.

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I'm like, holy crap, the bounce back, it's incredible.
ah Just thinking you took the time to do that when you absolutely did not have to openyourself up to that vulnerability.
Now knowing what you're going through in your marriage, you're not sleeping, you're noteating, Tyler's another continent, you've got this tiny human depending on you.
It's just incredible.
More kudos.

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too, like you know, I think too, like you know, with Instagram now, like you look atpeople and like we don't really see them as humans.
And I just want everyone, whenever they encounter me, like, you know, I always get like,you're just so pretty.
I'm like, I mean, yeah, that's cool, I guess.
But like, but like I'm smart, I'm witty, I'm a good mom.

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Like I am all these things.
And I am human.
I also suffer.
I also have, you know, intrusive thoughts like, and
I think on Instagram we're so quick to just post, like they say, the highlight reel.
And I just wanted, I just want people to know that whatever you're going through, there'sprobably someone who, probably 10 people going through it, they're just too scared to say

(31:45):
anything.
Yeah.
And I mean, especially in an industry like Modo where, I mean, it's so dog eat dog.
let's take, you know, monster off the table entirely.
Like let's talk about Modo.
Like, you know, most of these guys are on one, two, three year contracts.
If you're really lucky, Kenny, I guess, if you really luck out with Honda, you get a fiveyear, but like how your financial instability is up in the air.

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Like that's so stressful.
And then thinking like every little thing, like, is it going to affect a contract?
Is it going to affect this?
Is it, know, um, it's just like that.
that so many things that you have to think about where all you want to do is like, I justwant to get my brain right.
And I just want to like take care of this tiny human and enjoy this tiny human.
I don't know if you felt this, but I felt like my early days of postpartum were such ablur that like I didn't get to like enjoy it because I was just so, I was just such a

(32:29):
mess, you know?
Like it's so sad.
Um, I feel like I've redeemed it a little bit, but like I even look back at pictures, likewhen I was in the hospital with my son.
Like I have no memory of being in the hospital.
Like I have memories of like being on the operating table because he was a C-section andthen like leaving and the same thing with you.
You're like, wait, what, what?
Hold on.
No, I don't want to leave.
Like, can I come back?

(32:50):
Like what?
Like you're going to let me leave with this thing and like no training, nothing, you know?
Um, I mean, that's just, it's so much to juggle and then, you know, to go back to work,you know, I went back to work, you know, in like scrubs behind my computer with my breast
pump going, like you went back for the whole world to see like that.
That is so heavy.

(33:10):
Like that's some trauma.
like, what if some, you know, and then the internet's mean, right?
Like, I think people also don't, you know, they don't realize, you know, I am putting mylife out there, but I also have accepted that like, when I do, it can be positive, it can
be negative.
And like, for the most part, I've had a lot of positive, but I also think I, I think I doa good job.

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I definitely have real, you know, pulled myself back now um and have a little bit of mylife.
private, like I don't over share too much online.
let you see what I want you to see.
And sometimes like, you know, even now, like there's some people that think they know howthings are, but like, it's just, I don't share it because having, you know, as I've

(33:55):
learned, having privacy and in your life is, it's, it's good.
Yeah, it's healthy.
feel like people, I don't want to throw the men under the bus, but I feel like they thinkthat they have some kind of level of access to you ladies.
I've watched it from afar.
So I've been going to the races since 2011.

(34:15):
And I've watched it, I've watched you guys from a distance and not so much you guys, butthe men that you interact with and just keeping a straight face with some of the crap that
you guys have dealt with, that is an art form.
I don't know how you do it because I would just be like, I'd probably be in jail if I hadyour job, honestly.
I'd be like, I'm going to kill someone.

(34:36):
Like, this is not OK.
think, yeah, I definitely think, you know, with me, if you do know me, like I am veryspicy.
Like you will know immediately, do not touch me.
I remember, I remember I was pregnant and I was, I think Atlanta, isn't Atlanta in aconvention center?
It was like Atlanta or St.
Louis.
It was one of them.
And like a 14 year old boy comes up and takes a photo and grabs my boob.

(34:59):
And I literally slapped him on the back of his head out of reaction.
And he goes, did you just hit me?
And I said, yes.
Yes, and I would like to speak to your mother.
of here.
But like some girls, just like, okay, I don't want like they, you know, they're maybethey're not controversial or like, you know, they don't like to fight.
I love a good fight.
And I'm like, excuse me, like, you're not gonna treat me that way.

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And then like, I can't respond back.
And I just remember like, you know, obviously, I was a very good fit for Monster for along time.
But, you know, they have my back on that one.
They're like, hell yeah, you should beat him up.
I'm like, yeah.
But it was it's hard.
Like people do feel like they
Because you put yourself online that they are so it's acceptable to do or say anythingthey want to do.

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And you're like, yeah, absolutely not.
Correct.
Yeah.
Like I'm just there to like a wax figure.
Yeah.
Oh, hell no.
No, no, no, no.
I like immediately would have been like, cool, yes, I hit you and I would like to speak toyour mother and probably your father, if we're honest.
literally, was like, ah excuse me, you are raised completely wrong.

(36:03):
Absolutely not.
But yeah, that was a moment.
That was a moment.
my gosh.
That just, it like makes my skin crawl.
Like I'm just like, ugh.
Like I have experienced one just infinitesimal amount of what you've experienced just frombeing like on this side of Instagram and now having like the keyboard warriors and like,
we're not going to talk about which demographic or which rider following it is.

(36:26):
I think everybody who is following Supercross can probably figure out which is the mostlike divisive rider right now.
But like, holy crap, the keyboard warriors, like, do you not think that like there's ahuman on the other side of this, like that you're interacting with?
Like either you know and you don't care or you don't know.
I can't decide which is worse.
I think knowing and not caring, ah it's just, so, it's so cringy.
And honestly, like interacting with you and some of the other like moms in the industry,like it's just been so, I don't know.

(36:52):
Like it brings me joy because I'm like, you guys are so real and you're really likegifting us with the stories that you're sharing with us because
You know, we hear everything about the writers.
We know them inside and out, and it's all about the men, and it's all about them, and it'sall about their accolades.
And it's like, no, these women are actually holding down the fort, have careers of theirown, are literally 3D printing humans, and then going back to work six weeks later.

(37:15):
It's like, can we give them a nod?
I mean, just becoming a mom, going back to work, you're raising Max, what does that looklike?
mean, she is a spitfire.
I have a redhead too.
My four-year-old is a redhead, and I'm like,
What is it about the redheads, man?
Like, why are they so spicy?
uh I look at Maxwell and I'm just like, this is me.

(37:38):
And this is how people feel about, if I feel this way about her, that's how people feelabout me.
Like maybe I should change.
ah She's so much like me and she's so quick witted and she's so like, so sarcastic.
And sometimes I'm like, I, like my brain can't even, you know, react to what she justsaid.
Cause she's also so fast, which I think it's a very.

(38:01):
high intelligent quality to have.
uh And I just like never want to break her spirit because I'm like, you are going to be anexcellent woman one day and you're not a people pleaser and people are not going to take
advantage of you.
So you do you baby girl.
I love it.
I love it.
I remember like you posted a picture when she was going to kindergarten and she had like alizard or a dinosaur backpack or something.

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I can't remember what it was.
And I was like, Brady is doing all the most in the mothering that this girl is like, I'mto go to kindergarten and I'm going to have whatever kind of backpack I want.
also the hamster sagas.
Holy cow.
Like I've been in tears with like the snowball content, like, cause it's so relatable.
I will always let her be herself.

(38:45):
Someday she brushes her hair, someday she's in my makeup.
Like sometimes she looks like Adam Sandler.
Sometimes she's like a 13 year old girl.
it's very, I love watching her and her little personality because like you don't know whatyou're gonna get with her.
And I love it.
And you know, we're remodeling this house, which I think if you follow me on Instagram,we're doing it.

(39:06):
And we have
this interior designer and she goes, Hey, like I would love to do something from Maxwell'sroom.
What does she like like butterflies?
I was like, frog frogs, lizards.
said we have this hamster.
said like we love hamsters.
And she was like, Oh, so like nothing like too girly.
was like, I mean, if you did like she's not a bow girl, like don't put bows on the wall.

(39:26):
Like she is very much like tomboy but a girl at the same time.
And she was like, Okay, so like I will.
uh I will look for that.
I'm like, thanks.
Yeah, tell me what you come up with.
She is.
She's adorable and she reminds me so much of my daughter and like just, yeah, you don'twant to crush their little spirits.
You know, what whatever whatever came out in that little body like that's all them and wejust have the privilege of raising them like my mentality on motherhood is really just

(39:54):
like these kids are not our own.
Like I, you know, I won't get into my whole like faith journey, but I really feel like ourkids are rented.
You know, like we are renting them and we get to, you know, steward them the best we canand.
Gosh, the things that they innately come out of the womb doing.
It's just, you know, one of things I put on my list, I was like, what's one thing thatMaxwell does that when you look at her, you think, oh crap, that's me?
Like, it sounds like literally everything.

(40:17):
um Everything besides bugs.
Like I don't do bugs.
Like that is her journey.
But pretty much everything Maxwell does, I remember being a kid and I was like, like Isaid, I'm a yapper by default.
And I remember my aunt asked me if I was ever going to come up for air.
And like Maxwell, like from the time she wakes up in the morning to, and then by the timeI get her from school, like if your kid has done something at school, I know about it.

(40:45):
Ha!
Like we just got, we just got her yearbook and then she, know everything.
So like my friends will call me and be like, Hey, what did Maxwell say happened at schooltoday?
And I'm like, Oh, like she is like the number one source.
And like, even when my girlfriend got pregnant, she was like, obviously I want to tell youI'm pregnant, but can you please not tell max because she's literally she Maxwell is TMZ.

(41:08):
She'll be like, let me tell you about my mom's friend.
And then one day last year in first grade, her teacher messages me and she was like,
Hey, Maxwell said Cole Svendel is gonna come in for a meet and greet.
I'm like, no, he's not.
And she was like, oh my God, like we got so excited.
said, so when she comes home, I'm like, hey, like Courtney is like my best friend.

(41:29):
So like her husband is Cole, but he is a human to us.
Like we don't go, you're not his PR.
Like he is not coming to first grade.
Like you can't sign him up for things because then you make him look bad.
And so like that was a whole thing.
So she was like, you know,
Maxwell is like my personal TMZ representative.
I'm like, my God, 100%.

(41:50):
I love that.
That's so funny.
That's, feel like that's, so my daughter goes to kindergarten next year and I feel likethat's going to be the same thing.
Like she brings home all the tea and I'm just like, I don't even, I mean, my daughter's inpreschool, so like they have a little more turnover, but like anytime they have a new
friend, like she's, you know, she already tells me where she lives and what her backpackis and da da da da and what stuff she brought to school.
And I'm just like, my gosh, like you guys are so funny, you know, and you can't teachthat.

(42:12):
Like you can't teach, I don't know, like.
For me, at least, I feel like it's like a love of people.
Like there's an innate sense of like a love of people, but also balancing what I'm hopingshe probably received from you is like being able to read people well.
Like when she's older and she can be like, yeah, I love people, but also like I can clockyou, you know?
That's a really powerful woman right there.

(42:33):
uh So kudos.
I'm, I'm, I am.
I am excited to see like what she develops into because I mean, it's a lot already atseven and like sometimes like I don't even treat her like a seven year old because it's
just, she is so mature, which I will say is probably from our lifestyle from an early agefor her traveling and going and being a part of dinners.

(42:55):
And then, you know, our lifestyle now, like we're back and forth to Arizona.
Like she is a very well traveled.
human being and then she has been exposed to a lot of things other people are like theyare you know they go to school they come home they have a little lunch they take a nap and
like well that's that's a normal seven-year-old life and Max was over here like I'm goingbackstage here my mom's doing this like we go here we do that like I've done this and like

(43:18):
other kids are like what like it is yeah yeah which I would say I would I would give youknow to the industry for you know also helping develop her in a way that like
I didn't grow up that way.
I'm sure you didn't grow up that way.
It's just like our lifestyle now.
And like all of these kids are experiencing like weekend travels and RV hangs and all ofthese things.

(43:39):
That's not normal.
Yeah, no, I mean, but at the same time, like it's incredible.
you know, we're, we're in that timeline.
Like what does work look like for you?
Like before, you know, max is in public school, like where, where does the timeline ofthings with Tyler?
Like what is, what are her early, you know, kind of pre kindergarten years look like?
And what does, what does Brady's mom life look like?
Well, know, COVID obviously shaped everything.

(44:01):
know, ah Maxwell is very extrovert.
then when, you COVID happened, I knew I was filing for divorce.
uh I knew where that was going.
And, you know, that goes back to postpartum and having someone who either supports you orthinks you're crazy or throwing it in your face.
I mean, ah if you actually go and look at my Instagram now, you wouldn't find thosepostpartum posts because they were being used against me.

(44:24):
Ah!
what does this have things because it's not like any woman chooses to go through thosechanges.
And I just wish a man could go through an ounce of what women go through during likethose, just those phases.
Like, like, you know, I know, like, I mean, I'll say it like women are crazy.
And if you don't think you're crazy, then you're probably past crazy.

(44:45):
Um, like we, you know, we could go and pull our blood and our hormones could be one wayand then go tomorrow and it's completely shifted.
Mm-hmm.
just, and we navigate that every single day.
and so COVID happens, we, um, are not doing obviously well.
And I am like, well, Maxwell is extrovert.

(45:08):
California is completely shut down.
Can we live this way?
Can we both afford to not live in California or can we both like, you know, not beingtogether, living separately and living in California.
I mean, California is expensive.
You're not working because there's no races.
I'm not working because there's no modeling jobs.
The world is shut down.
How do we survive?
So like we both agreed that Florida would probably be the best thing for Maxwell and ourpivot, you know, our pivoting of a relationship and like there's nothing better than

(45:38):
needing free help, you know, paying for a babysitter is not cheap anymore.
So yeah, we did.
We moved to uh Florida and COVID.
We actually lived together in COVID.
which was, you know, obviously very interesting navigating, um, a divorce and, know, allof the things.
then next thing you know, like we're doing the races in Salt Lake city.
And I obviously was picked and, you know, monster puts us in, you know, an Airbnb and,know, we stayed there for like a month or two, you know, and park park city for that time,

(46:08):
which was great.
It was phenomenal.
and for like max, you know, extrovert.
And she has to be in some kind of EPK and then she's like in all of her stuff.
You know, Florida, think was a really good move for her.
don't know, like, maybe everything would would be different staying in California.

(46:29):
Like the shift for us, you know, it was big, it's huge, you know, she still remembers acouple things like, as, you know, arguments and living in the same home.
And so
you know, navigating that still, you know what I mean?
Like we never, like there's one fight that she remembers, but I'm very good at likekeeping things away from her because you know, she's a child and it's not her business,

(46:52):
but like as she's gotten older, like that girl is TMZ.
So she hears everything and knows everything.
And, but yeah, like for her, like that COVID shift, which I think for any kids was, youknow, it was a big deal in their lives.
I think for us, was definitely for better to have COVID.
I couldn't imagine if the world didn't shut down.

(47:13):
It definitely helped slowed me down and my thoughts and my values and where I wanted to befor her.
Yeah.
I definitely think, you know, we were, I say lucky in a sense.
Like can't imagine having kids who were like middle schoolers going through COVID.
You know, we had like three year olds and just like the damage that it did.
And like, we will not go down that rabbit hole, but I just, it's irreparable.

(47:36):
Like you can't come back from that.
So I'm so grateful that like you guys were like, all right, we need to make a shift andlike a shift wall, like everything else in your life is like the most difficult thing
ever.
literally crumbling.
I'm like, I don't know what is the plan, like everything, you know, everything will alwayswork itself out hard, easy, whatever.

(47:56):
Like everything comes in flows.
And I definitely think even for Maxwell to watch, like, I don't, I think people that arelike naive and they've never had hardships, like it doesn't build character.
And, you know, even like who she is now, like,
She's strong and then like there's some things that she has been exposed to or been aroundand you know, I think it's some of the reason why she is, know, who she is.

(48:21):
And I definitely think she's going to be a, you know, a great human when she's of age tomake her own decisions.
Yeah.
Does she know like how incredible you are?
Like, does she know how big a deal you are?
Because I'll tell her, bring her on the pod.
She can be TMZ and I'll tell her how awesome her mom is, but.
um I will say one thing Maxwell is really good at is keeping me humble.

(48:43):
um We were at my story about Maxwell, think she was like four or five more at Starbucksand like I'm grabbing our drinks and the girl goes, my God, you literally look like a
Barbie doll.
And Maxwell goes, my God, no, she does not.
And I was like, Hey, can you just shut it for a minute and like, let me have my moment.

(49:05):
And she was like, no.
And I was like, uh
And then like the other day, like she, can't remember.
we were golfing and my client's son works at the golf course that we're at and I got newgolf clubs.
So I've been working on mine.
So I was hitting Jason's and you know, Maxwell's hitting them and she barely ever goes.
And she's like, I'm, I am doing so good.
And like, his name's Griffin.

(49:26):
And he was like, you look so much more comfortable with your own golf clubs.
And she goes, no, she doesn't.
She's doing terrible.
And I'm like, can you for a minute?
Like, let me have a moment again.
And I'm like, she's really good at humbling me.
I'm like, ugh.
But she is in her own way, at night.
Maxwell is very independent.

(49:48):
I'm so shocked.
She does her own thing.
The other day, my girlfriend's over, and then she's like, does Maxwell need help?
And I'm like, one thing I've learned about Maxwell is you do not help her until she asksfor it.
Mm-hmm.
was like, well, it doesn't sound good in there.
And I was like, I think she's grabbing the blender off of the top counter.
But like, again, you cannot, you can't, you can't ask her for help.

(50:09):
She'll be like, no, I got it.
And then next thing you know, like you hear the blender and she goes, wow, she's got it.
She's like, you just let her do that.
And like, no, from an early age, like Maxwell is just a do it herself.
And like, she'll be struggling at the airport and they'll be like, ma'am, your daughter.
And I'm like, no, she will like literally like, be like, I got it.
Like until that child asks you for help, like I have learned to not help her because sheis a do it herself.

(50:36):
Yeah, that's incredible.
mean, truly it does.
speaks to you.
It speaks to how you've raised her and, uh-oh, hold on.
Oh, it told me you had an incoming phone call.
Weird.
Hold on.
No, you're good.
That's weird that it tells me that.
Brady Bowers has an incoming phone call.
Thanks, Riverside.
That's creepy.

(50:57):
So creepy.
What level of information they gave us there.
I'll get this all out.
So that is 2020-ish.
Were the residency?
No, they were in 2021, Salt Lake City?
It's such a blur.
Was it 2020?
that was 20, yes.
No, no, what's it?

(51:20):
21, 20.
20.
was.
think, no, 21 was normal.
And I only know that because I had filed a divorce and I had a birthday party and I had adivorce party all at the same time.
So 21, the world was open.
Gosh, that's so, okay, so I live in Dallas, yes, and Arlington was in early February.

(51:42):
So was like before everything shut down.
So that year like was normal.
And then we had like the three in Dallas, three in Houston, whatever.
Gosh, what a blur.
I just, also like, I have questions about the Salt Lake City.
Like we said, we're not gonna talk dirt bikes, but like the testing, like were you guysreally testing like every day coming into the stadiums?
Like, and I mean like,

(52:02):
with the whole 18 inch Q-tip touches your brain.
my gosh.
know, even for me, you know, into 21, you know, they were still testing and you know, formonster, they were like, you have to be vaccinated or they won't let you in.
And I was like, well, I guess I'll see you guys later because I just didn't agree with it.
I knew that it would eventually pass.

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Like it just wasn't worth risking my health for this vaccine that like, just, I just knew.
was a hoax.
Like none of it made sense to me.
You know, some people freaked out, you know, maybe lost family members and I'm, you know,sorry for that.
But like, I was like, I'm not going to risk my health for like one a job that I don't knowhow much longer I'm going to do.
And I would extremely regret getting vaccinated.

(52:44):
And then like next week you're done using me.
So then what now I have this vaccine and I don't work like that makes zero sense.
So even in 21, I was like, I would pay like I didn't, but I offered, was like, I will payfor the testing.
don't care.
And they're like, well, it's just a risk that we fly you and then you do have COVID andthen we can't use you.

(53:05):
And I'm like, I'm good.
I haven't been sick all through 2020, 21.
The only time I've ever been sick was pregnancy.
you know, they gambled on me and I did.
I tested every weekend and from what I know, I've never had COVID.
I mean, it's so wild to me.
Thinking about it as a parent and thinking about, there's a few writers, think the Tomacshad had their first daughter thinking about living in Salt Lake City and whatever level of

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fear you had about COVID, but then also hearing it from every angle, I'm sure from everyboss, everything they were doing, and then having to race on top of it or work in your
case.
That's just such a, it's such a shit show, pardon my French.
Yes.
we were the first major sport that came back.
So like, we want to hang our hat on that.
That was incredible.
Um, but at the same time, like they were like, yeah, there was 900 people, you know, inthe, in the Salt Lake city residency or some, some, you know, insane number, and there

(53:59):
wasn't a single positive case.
was like, interesting, like not going to touch that with a 10 foot pole, but likeinteresting.
had nearly a thousand people, you know, all in various camps and in various teams andvarious circles of, of very close overlap.
And there was no cases.
So, um,
Good job, Supercross.
We'll just, we'll say that.

(54:20):
Goodness.
So we made it through, we made it through COVID.
We are in 21, 22.
Divorce is messy and proceeding and you are continuing to work and you are, where is homebase at that point?
Where's, where's, where's home?
still we were still here in Florida.
And, you know, in that time, too, I wasn't in 2020.

(54:41):
Work was still kind of like, scarce, like they were like, let's do Instagram posts withyou girls, like, especially girls, like that was my main income for 14 years.
So like, they're like, how can we help the girls that like, this is their job, this istheir income.
So we were doing like paid Instagram posts for them.
And like, monster as a company through COVID really pulled through for like us girls werea lot of companies are like, oh, those girls snooze you lose.

(55:02):
And then
I was like, always, in 2019, I said, you know, I think I want to go to hair school, butlike timing wise and what it takes.
And then I had Maxwell, like it just wasn't playing out.
And then when COVID happened and being in Florida, like my friends are like, just do it.
So I was like, you know what?
Like, okay, perfect.
I'll go to hair school to pass time.
Like I, again, I'm a doer.

(55:23):
I was like, okay, this is what I'll do.
And then like, yeah, like maybe the world will open up and I'll just do like styling forbrides and photo shoots or whatever.
And I graduated in, you know,
from cosmetology school in 21.
And I didn't really know where it was gonna take me.
like now, you know, I'm what I finished school in 21.
So four years of doing it, like I should have done this job a long time ago.

(55:49):
Like it is therapeutic for me.
I think it's therapeutic for them.
Like I love my job.
And like how many people can say that?
I mean, my job is so taxing on my body, just like Supercross was.
So I think that part of my life prepared me for now because I stand all day and just likeSupercross, know, us girls are out there from like 10 a.m.

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till the night shows done.
Like we get like a 30 minute break, but like that's about it.
We're standing for like 11 hours, you know, like 11 hours.
We're out there and we're smile.
you know, we could be having the worst day and we're out there and like, you would neverknow it.
And so like, yeah, now, you know, like my lifestyle now is definitely doable from the pastprevious 15 years.

(56:38):
Yeah.
Well, like what an incredible shift too, because it's like your job, you know, withMonster and modeling was like literally like pumping up these other people, these other
guys, which like that's a whole other thing.
Also, like I'm so curious, like what that was like, like when things were good with youand Tyler and you have to like be on the podium and be like, great, this person just won a
hundred thousand dollars, must be nice.
Like, like that's a whole thing.

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Like this is where my brain goes from a mom perspective, but then, you know,
Now you're shifting to like, this is me.
Like I'm not, I'm not pumping anybody else up except myself and my skills and likeclaiming that back.
Like how does, how does that feel?
Like it's got, it's gotta be really liberating.
I can, I would only assume.
I definitely think in the shifts of becoming like a single mom um and where I'm at, likeI'm the main character and I'm not having to share it.

(57:27):
And I think definitely if you are around like my previous marriage or whatever, like, andI think any of the current marriages, it is very much about them.
It's about them, it's about their sleep, it's about their schedule.
They don't want to be stressed or whatever.
And I think
always kind of been like a main character energy.

(57:48):
And so like, if you're someone who has an insecurity and or introvert or whatever, you aregoing to struggle with with me, like, um even in COVID, like Theo would check in on me or
certain people from Cali would check in on me.
And that would make someone mad.
Because but I'm like, I'm a relationship girly like

(58:11):
can just text you and just be like, I'm thinking of you.
I don't need you to respond.
But like anybody that is close to me, I am very loyal.
And I'm a really good friend.
Like I everyone says you want Brady to fight for you.
You don't want Brady to fight with you.
And that is true.
Literally, we were strangers until an hour ago, and I'm like, I see that.

(58:32):
It's your energy.
I don't know what it is, but I can see it, and I'm so here for it.
Again, Max, she's so lucky to have you.
Goodness gracious.
It's funny why you're saying that.
I will never, ever blow out a woman, but I messaged someone in the industry who has ahusband in the industry, and they responded.
was like, hey, I really love your story, blah, blah.

(58:53):
I mean, literally, this is what this is for.
And she said,
Hey, my husband, who is the writer, doesn't think this is a good idea or he doesn't wantme speaking out.
Like, I can't remember what the wording was and I was just like, ew.
Like, that made me sad.
Like, at first I was like, ick, but then I was like, no, it's really like sadness.
Like, I'm like, I don't know.
given she's, 35, she's much younger than me.

(59:14):
So, you know, not much, but she's definitely younger than me.
And I'm like, that made me so sad, you know, because I'm like, I don't want to talk aboutyour husband.
Like, I don't want to talk about Derphex.
I want talk about you and I want to talk about what it's like, you know, going to.
However, 31 races a year, you know?
I do think, obviously I've experienced my 20s and being, my 30s are by far my favorite.

(59:34):
And I go back and I look at my 20s and I'm like, if you are not a strong human being andyou don't have a backbone, like your identity, you don't have one.
And like you have no substance because like you're consumed by what is currently in frontof you.
And it's sad.
Yeah.

(59:55):
never that way.
And I do know quite a few that I'm like, well, what do you like to do?
What is your favorite thing to do?
If you could go do something, what is it that you would choose for yourself?
And I do think majority in our industry, mean, I'm surrounded by people that have, youknow, famous football or, you know, singers or anything, our industry, I do believe is

(01:00:19):
very toxic.
And I believe, you know,
mostly from the parents.
And that's a lot of exposure that I'm around a lot of things.
And like, you know, I pray for, you know, families bringing their kids up into it now thatyou could be the change because I do think a lot of these kids suffer.

(01:00:41):
And like when I say kids, a lot of them are, know, in their high twenties, almostthirties.
And I wish that correct.
Like they don't, they don't even know what they like and
You know, I always watch these people, whether oh you're an Olympian or like I said, aretired football or baseball or whatever, they have no identity.

(01:01:03):
And the shift is very hard.
And I have now become this woman and I don't, I don't know if I should be proud of it, butlike I'm the woman that they see went through the trials and errors and like they are
asking me for advice.
And like, I really probably should be like a divorce counselor, like just for people.
or like relationships because it's like the come down is hard.

(01:01:28):
The come down of these relationships that like have always been this high because youknow, they're significant other it's always been about them.
And then how quickly our industry and just industries in general, they replace you andyou're you're nowhere to be found.
And they're not those people that once were checking on you aren't checking on youanymore.
And even I will say, I haven't struggled, but there's times where I'm like,

(01:01:51):
dang, like, I didn't work since last year and like, nobody checks on me and like, I put somuch effort into you and like, it is crazy how fast like, you are replaced, like everyone
is replaceable.
And I knew that like, that's why I always wanted, you know, to do hair or have somethingdifferent because I knew my ship was coming being a mom to Maxwell, and she was becoming

(01:02:11):
this person of sports and friends and like, she's my priority.
Um, and it is
pretty crazy when you're like, dang, they don't check on you anymore.
I hate that.
I hate that.
I mean, you're totally right.
mean, it's anything that you're, you know, putting your identity in, excuse me, andespecially like, you know, the wives of the girlfriends or whatever, like they're hitching

(01:02:34):
their wagon to someone whose entire identity is going to shift when their career is over,you know, and for moto or, you know, football or anything like that, like that, that
change is coming, you know?
And I think that some people in moto have, you know,
gracefully graduated from racing.
Like I think about the Braitons we were talking about.
I love Paige Brayden.
Like she was pregnant with her son at the same time as us.

(01:02:55):
And I think about JB and you know, but so many times I don't think people are realizingthat like, Hey, it's really hard for these athletes to retire, to graduate, whatever.
But like, what are the women behind the scenes who have like made their husband, theirentire identity.
And now that's over.
Like, what do you do to your point?
Like, what do you like?
Like what's your favorite meal?
You know, like

(01:03:16):
Yep.
Yep.
And they're like, well, and most of them are like, well, they like when I do this, I'mlike, no, what do you like?
I'm asking you.
And it is it is really sad.
And, know, I always thought like, too, like, I was the anomaly.
Like, you know, I worked my life was not to clean your goggles.
It was not to clean your boots.

(01:03:36):
I wasn't there to make you a sandwich.
And you know, maybe, maybe that was a fail in in my marriage, or and maybe somebody wouldhave been better to suit that.
It just wasn't me and it never was me and you met me doing this job.
So like I was from the beginning, never going to lose my identity.
And I also believe for myself and my theory is I believe there is power and financial.

(01:04:05):
And if I have my money, you don't have power over me.
Like, and that is a power balance.
And I also have my own.
positive and negatives about that myself.
like for me, you know, money is freedom.
And oh my gosh, like I'm like, so literally, um, and like, I, I definitely like, know, inthe shift from like going from, know, my race, my racing modeling career and everything

(01:04:33):
with, with monster to now, I again, get to help these younger girls that are like,
in these hard moments of their life.
And I will say like, you know, I've never done a drug and you know, I've always been asocial drinker.
And if I can be any kind of example to anyone, I have no tattoos.

(01:04:53):
Like I am as clean as they come.
And you know, when you're younger and even like from 15 to, you know, 25, you're stillinfluenced by so much.
And if I can be your example to not do something.
And like, think I'm cool.
I mean, my daughter doesn't, but like, I think I'm a, I think I'm a good example.

(01:05:18):
And if I can show you that you don't have to be a follower and like, I've been exposed toa lot of things in this industry that shouldn't happen.
And I shouldn't be able to like say that, like, I'm not proud of it, but I've been arounda lot of things and I have a lot of knowledge, but like, I definitely feel like I have a
very strong mentality and like, no matter what, like with, you know, this industry, I dothink like,

(01:05:40):
There's a lot of, you know, people pleasing.
Like I don't want to like not do something because they're doing it and whatever, but likethose people will drop you tomorrow.
And that was always like my mentality too is doing it myself.
Yeah, no, I love that.
um I remember when you first started posting about Blondes by Brady.
If I was a blonde girl, I'd be there in a heartbeat.
uh

(01:06:02):
terrible, terrible marketing.
But like, um, I do I do have brunettes and they always start with, Hey, my friend goes toyou and absolutely loves you but I have brown hair.
I take all colors.
Um, it's just my marketing in my in my brain because I was in COVID.
I was a blonde and I'm like, I need someone that's not scared of germs or dying to come domy hair.

(01:06:25):
Like I have these roots like I was working like you know, one of the slim picks to work.
Someone needs to come foil this hair ASAP.
And so then, and my brain is always going in business.
I'm like, what can I do?
Because if you are a brunette and you had gray hairs, you're going to CVS and you're doingit yourself or ordering it to your door at that point.

(01:06:46):
There was money and a strategy of being like, one, I'm a blonde.
I understand it.
All my friends do hair.
And I'm like, blondes come back six, eight, 12 weeks.
Mm-hmm.
So true.
uh
in the beginning, everyone, know, um people like that were surrounding me.

(01:07:09):
And then like, worked at the salon for a while and she's like, you're never going to havea business doing blonde hair.
And one thing you're never going to tell me is that I can't do something.
And I will show you and like, I probably have.
like over 200 clients right now.
And like, you know, most of them are blonde.
And I can say I do not have one bad client.

(01:07:34):
Like when we talked about my life right now, like I am extremely blessed with where I'm atin a short amount of time doing hair.
I never assisted, you know, one of the big things is that you need to go and assist for ayear and you're gonna learn.
And I'm like, no, we have
knowledge at our fingertips every day.

(01:07:54):
I still scroll TikTok to this day to learn certain things.
And I learned so much from TikTok.
And I'm a very visual learner.
It's actually how I learned golf.
I have watched so much golf and I watch where like the ball is and their hand positions orwhatever.
But like, I'm golfing the other day just like at the range I'm hitting balls.
And like one of these like old PGA players like who I have my headphones and I didn'thear.

(01:08:17):
And like I was like, what and he goes, do you play?
And I'm like, no, no, no.
Like my handicaps probably like the highest you could get.
Like I don't play, but like I do practice and he goes, you look like you got great form.
have you, who, who's been your coach?
I'm like, no one.
And that's the same thing for my hair and my business.
paid for people's subscriptions to watch them that were successful.

(01:08:38):
And like, that's where I learned.
And that's like, maybe if you're my client and you don't want to learn that right now, butlike that's the true.
Like, and I always believe.
You get better the more you do.
Me sitting and watching someone show me what they're doing does not teach me anything.
I'm not learning while I'm going.

(01:08:58):
And I thoroughly do.
I love my job.
I love my clients.
Like every single one of them is just like a family member to me.
Yeah, it's great.
It's great.
So you are in your, I was gonna say glow up area, but there was never anything to glow upfrom other than drama.
So you were in very much like your glow up era to me.

(01:09:20):
So like, where do you meet Jason?
How does that happen?
Like, I wanna have a moment for this engagement ring.
We talked about this on Instagram.
Like it is incredible.
Like it is beautiful.
Like where'd you guys meet?
What is co-parenting like?
You're renovating a house, which like.
My husband and I built a house two years ago and I say, you can get through building ahouse together and not either kill each other or get divorced, you're good.

(01:09:43):
So what is that like?
Speak to the Jason world.
So I file for divorce in 21, February of 21.
Cause like when we moved here, if you have a child, you have to wait six months and likethe DMVs were closed.
So I had no residency until that was open.
So I don't wait six months and I filed divorce, you know, February of 21.

(01:10:05):
And originally Tyler and I had an agreement of a settlement.
And so my attorney is like, in 60 days, like this will be completed, like paperwork orwhatever, but you just got to wait the 60 days.
And I'm like, in 60 days, I'm 30.
And I was like, I'm not like, I give main character energy, but like, I mean, if everyoneknows Britney Chosun, like I can't do that.

(01:10:28):
Like I can't like, I'm not an entertainer.
Like I think I could be a good comedian.
Oh my.
like she like, like she's like, put the attention on me.
I'm not that way.
Like, I think I could be like, I'm a really good comedian one on one.
But like, in a group setting, I'm like, don't, I can't do it like a speech, like, don'tput that on me.

(01:10:48):
and so I was like, you know what, like, I'm going to be divorced, I'm gonna be 30.
Like, this is a whole new chapter of my life.
And Scottsdale just opened and I love Scottsdale.
So me and my girlfriends are like, you know, it's
COVID, you know, it's coming to a close, things are opening, like, let's just do my 30thbirthday in Scottsdale.
Well, you know, doing NASCAR, uh I have some drivers that had like stayed at a house.

(01:11:14):
So I was like, Hey, like me and like 12 girls want to go to Scottsdale.
Do you have any recommendations?
They're like, write this Instagram page.
And I was like, all right, deal.
So I write them in February and I'm like, Hey, like 12 of us girls are having a party forme.
It's my birthday.
We would love to rent or if you're willing to host and like we'll post about it, like,know, whatever, like your vibe is like, just let me know.

(01:11:37):
they're like, my God, I'm so sorry.
Like we sold it.
And I was like, Oh, dang.
Um, all right.
Well that's out of the, you know, that's out of the picture.
And so then, you know, I go on whatever.
Well, I still had followed this Instagram page.
That's literally like it's real estate.
Like there's no personal information about anyone on this page.

(01:11:58):
And.
you know, later on in the year, like this page kept like responding to my stories.
And I was like, I was so like against men.
Like I was like, I also like a lot of people um probably don't know this about me.
But I lived with my parents with Maxwell for a year because I was having to figure out mylife.
Our divorce wasn't good financially.

(01:12:19):
I mean, we co parent really well.
And a lot of people don't know that about me.
Something I didn't post on Instagram, like
incredible.
life.
So I was living with my parents for a year, you going to school, I wasn't divorced yet,like, just a relationship was not on the radar.
And then there's this person I'm like, okay.
And then probably like later in the year, like, they're like, I don't want to talk onInstagram anymore.

(01:12:44):
And I was like, we're talking like what I didn't I didn't consider this talking.
I thought like you were just replying.
And I was just kind of being nice back because I was like, what if he?
No, I know nothing.
And I'm like,
just gonna be nice because whoever this is, if they come to a NASCAR race, I don't wantthem being like bad girl.
It's like, you know, a B word, but like, just didn't know you.

(01:13:05):
And then finally, like, probably in like, August or like September or something.
Yeah, he was like, you know, I just, like, I don't want to talk anymore on Instagram.
Like, here's my phone number.
And I was like, wait, what?
Like, I know nothing about you.
Like, yeah, are you male?
Are you female?
Like, um, and I was like,
Literally and I was like, my God, said no offense, like, um I'm, I want to, yeah, wholiterally, who are you?

(01:13:32):
I know nothing about you too.
Like I just like, I'm, I'm not in that point of my life yet, but like, and so we kepttalking like on Instagram, like, you know, just again, replying to stories.
And then I was sitting at a convention one day with my girlfriend and it's a tech techconvention.
Like there are great clients of mine and I'm like, I'm bored.
Mm-hmm.

(01:13:52):
And so I text this man and I was just like, it's Brady.
And immediately he sent me this long paragraph and I was like, Oh God, like, Oh my God.
Like, uh, I regret this, but then when I read it, when I read it, I was like, do I evenread this like block?
Um, but he's like, you know, I, the, number 12 is so significant in my life.

(01:14:16):
And he goes into the spiel, but he's like, your first text to me was on 1212 and like,
I don't need any more signs in my life.
I mean, I've been watching you for like a year and everything about you and your moralsand your politics and you're so free, there's no fear in you.
I think I already know you.

(01:14:36):
And I was just like, okay, good thing I didn't block him.
And then from there on, I was definitely taking it slow.
I definitely had a lot of thoughts.
I just wasn't ready again.
Sure.
Yeah.
and like who I was, like, I don't think you will like me.
Like, I just don't think I can give a relationship a good go.

(01:15:00):
And it was great.
you wouldn't like me?
That's an interesting thought.
Um, just, was um jaded.
I was so jaded and I was just not a nice person to male species.
Like I just thought you all men are trash.
Like, I mean, I, I still, I still sometimes believe, you know, guys are just disturbing.

(01:15:23):
Um, but like, right.
I'm just like, no, like nothing, nothing surprises me anymore.
Throughout my life.
I have learned.
always be on the swivel.
Nothing surprises you.
Um, but yeah, so then from there on out, it just kind of like kept, you know, goingthrough and like we would just spend like, I was still working monster.

(01:15:44):
was doing the hair thing.
I was working on my business.
had Maxwell, you know, Florida is a strong 5050 state like my schedule even still like Iam on a hamster wheel and everyone loves to hear that because of our hamster stories but
like, I am I'm constantly I'm constantly on a roll.
And I have always been and I don't know if I'll ever live a life that's like doingnothing.

(01:16:07):
No, I can't see it.
can't see it.
so you guys date, get engaged, get this house.
He has a son, correct?
He has three children.
has two that, yeah, his oldest just turned 18 like a week ago.
And then he has a 15 year old daughter and then he has a nine year old son.
I mean, I'm not gonna make the obvious like Brady Bunch joke, but like you guys areadorable.

(01:16:30):
God, literally we're like, so his two oldest live in Washington state and he moved toArizona during COVID.
And so like when we are all together, we literally are always like, let's go Brady Bunch.
and it's, it's definitely a lot of scheduling.
It's a lot of people.
It's a lot of, it's a lot of movement.
It's not, it's not easy.

(01:16:51):
Yes.
You've got in other states.
mean, you've got co-parents that are about to be in other continents again.
Like that's a lot of logistics.
Like how, how do you manage that?
Like with the Renault on top of it, I'm putting the big, the big star on the Renaultbecause I'm like, it is such a pain in the ass to build a house.
can't even imagine like starting with a house and being like, cool, we're gonna completelytear this down and build it back up while we're working other jobs and have tiny humans.

(01:17:16):
Like it's.
It's a grind.
Um, have to be very organized.
Like everything is in, you know, my notes app or my calendar.
and it's, it's really strategic.
It's very hard.
Like, um, this week has been a very hard week for me, like, cause I just like, I do redeyes here and then I go straight into working and then I go straight into mothering and

(01:17:38):
then I'm back into working and then I'm flying again and then back home.
And, know, um, I mostly go to Arizona for now.
whole reason for the house bill because Jason has to have like a certain kind of officethat's approved by his work.
He does private he does private wealth.
So like, there's just certain things with private wealth and like people security that youhave to have it like, can't just bring his laptop and his papers here to my house.

(01:18:00):
Like, it just, doesn't work that way.
And like, you know, actually, the first time I ever went to Jason's house, I don't likepeople that video game.
And I was like, there's something there's something wrong with this man.
Like, I just know there is.
And so the first time I ever went to Jason's house, he had like these four monitors and Iwas like, bingo, bingo.
He's a gamer.

(01:18:20):
Oh my God.
I was like, how do I abort mission and go home?
So then he was like, is something he was, is something wrong?
And I said, I have a question, like a serious question.
Do you play video games?
And he just dies laughing and he goes, what?
I said, all the computer screens, like, do you play like Call of Duty?
Like with your friends or something like you're 50 years old, like what?
And he was like, No, I run stock markets.

(01:18:43):
Oh, my God.
I said I literally was about to confirm changing my flight back home.
And he was like, my God.
He was like, uh you're crazy.
And I was like, Yep, I bet you.
And um, yeah, so it's been like really funny.
And so yeah, like, that's what the reno is, like, you know, Jason is older than me, as youknow, he's 20 years older than me.

(01:19:04):
So
For him, like he's in his life where he's about, know, he wants to retire and he lives, helives comfortably in what he wants.
He wants a golf course, he wants a gym and he needs an office, which my, my house didn'tprovide.
And so in time, right.
So, you know, to come down here, we were constantly like blowing money on hotels or doingstuff because like, I didn't have a pool and like, you bring your kids and like, kids are

(01:19:28):
bored.
so
You know, we mostly go to Arizona because we're in a country club there and like, it'ssuch a kid oriented place.
Like, you know, we can take our kids to the driving range and we take a football andeveryone's playing football.
Like our country club in Arizona is not like, it's very young and it's very like urban.
guess you could say like everyone has golf carts with loud music and they're wrapped andthey're like raised.
It's not like you don't have to tuck in your t-shirt.

(01:19:50):
Like it's very relaxed, but like a very clean place.
Like, I mean, if you're spending X amount of money for a golf membership, you know how toact.
Like it's just the obvious.
So.
It's been really fun doing that.
I will say doing my job, being a mom, flying back and forth and this house, Renell, it'svery testy, especially because like with Jason, he's not a FaceTime-er.

(01:20:12):
So like I'm showing him something.
He's like, that's concrete.
I'm like, that's our tile brother.
It's like, what are you talking about?
He's like, I can't see it.
looks like concrete.
I'm like, my God.
And so like we both get frustrated with each other because I will say we're very much thesame human.
Like we're both independent individuals.
And like, I don't back down, he doesn't back down.
And like, some people are probably like, guys argue a lot, but it's not arguing.

(01:20:33):
It's just like, we're both opinionated.
So.
Yes.
I lived the other relationship where I thought opposites attract and it very much didn't.
So, you know, there's pros and cons with each, but I would definitely say like we can getsome, you know, shit done.
Like we definitely are, you know, it's, it's a, it's, it's strenuous on the relationship.

(01:20:57):
Like, I hope like, did you go to the house today?
And it's not close to my current house.
It's 30 minutes away.
So 30 minutes there to do whatever I need to do.
And then 30 minutes home.
So I run my client.
So like between working and going there and coming back and having the time, like it's,it's definitely a lot on me.
And I, I love to be busy, but there's some days where I'm like, maybe I do want to be astay at home wife.

(01:21:20):
Like, I'm like, Oh, but do I?
Yeah.
I was like, I think I could be like a stay at home, like mom stay at home life for like aday and be like, all right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Have you seen, I'm sure you've seen it, but there's like some, you know, viral reel orwhatever.
That's like, find you a man that gives you the option to be a stay at home mom or to dowhatever you want.

(01:21:40):
Like not the one that's like, you're going to stay home.
You're going to make me a sandwich.
And I'm like, Oh, no truer statement.
Like find you a man that matches your energy, which like from afar, from, from a fly onthe wall here, like I'm like, y'all match each other's energy.
I love it.
Um, actually, gosh, what, Oh, you posted a video of Jason's like walking around on thephone.
That's me.

(01:22:01):
I walk around on the phone and my husband's like, are you doing?
Like hold still sit still What are you doing?
But we are the same way like we're we fight and people from the outside even my mom islike, are you guys okay?
And I'm like, oh no, this is just like how we are like this is just how we communicate Youknow and it works for us and it doesn't work for everybody.
But oh my gosh when I saw that video I was like, holy crap.
That is our marriage to like it's so funny

(01:22:22):
literally, and like, I'm like, uh he has, by the way, I have a client at noon.
So I have like 20 minutes, but ah he has this interior designer that's worked for him forlike 20 years.
And so like they, she's in Washington state, he's in Arizona, I'm here.
And so one day Jason calls me and he's just like, you know, just M Fing like Michelledoesn't get it.

(01:22:44):
She's this, she's that.
And then next thing know, I can see she's calling me I'm like, you two are like siblingsthat I didn't want.
like, and so she's like, he's so mean.
he's this and I'm like, what is our goal?
Meanwhile, I'm working right?
So like, I have it on speakerphone.
I tell my client, said, whatever Jason says, don't take it to heart.
Like, he's just such a matter of fact person.

(01:23:05):
And like, it'll probably sound like he's yelling at me, but he's just saying like, what inthe actual is going on?
But like, he's not mad at me.
Like, he knows I'm not building the house.
He knows I'm not doing it.
But like, he's also far away.
So he just needs answers.
And he needs like a bullet point presentation.
like, that's the way it is.
So like, I'll always have to preface to like, I'll be like, Hey, I'm working and you're onspeakerphone.

(01:23:31):
So, then all of a sudden, like, and then for him, like me and his daughter joke all thetime, because like, you know, obviously he's older.
like, social media is not like his thing.
And so then, you know, I'll get him on video or something.
And it's like,
We always said like, maybe he just needed like an Instagram girlfriend.
Cause it's like, he's like loves to be an entertainer, but like with him, I'm like, youdon't understand.

(01:23:53):
It's like TikTok, know, like we need, like we need it fast.
Like you need to, yes, I need your point and I need to be entertained.
want to laugh everything within a split second where he's over here, like giving me aminute long voicemail.
And I'm like, I didn't listen.
I didn't listen.
What was the point?
And he's like, seriously?
Like I worked hard on that.
And I'm like, no, you lost them.

(01:24:14):
If I posted that you would have lost your audience.
So like you got to be fast.
And like for him, he's like, but no, like they want to see all of it.
I'm like, they don't.
They want to see what it looked like before.
What does it look like now?
And so like, it's been really funny, like to watch him in like the social media worlds andyou know, like if he gets tagged in something, he repost it immediately.
And I'm just like, and me and my girlfriend laugh.

(01:24:36):
We're like, what if you were like bashing him?
Like he would repost it without even a thought.
He just like, she tagged me in that repost.
And I'm like, you didn't have to.
And he's like,
my gosh.
I gotta do what I gotta do.
And I'm like, it's so funny.
It's really funny.
Yeah.
anti-Jason video and then at the end be like, just kidding.
I love Brady.
K, thanks.
Bye.
Share immediately.

(01:24:58):
I love that.
my gosh.
I love that.
goodness.
Well, hey, I want to respect your time, but I sent you three questions that I am going toask all of our mamas that come on.
um Again, if we can crop, we can edit.
As I'm saying this, I'm snapping in the background so I can get my audio mark to edit.
Don't even start on how much I freaking hate.
editing.
I'm like, I wanted to do this.

(01:25:19):
oh It's such a nightmare.
Like we luckily like the girl that I'm doing like the like normal weekly pods with like wejust do it in one shot because we're just, you know, moto fans and we just shoot the ship.
But yeah, like the actual editing part of it.
That's what I was talking to Monica Ramsey about.
I was like, have fun.
It sucks.
So I'm asking all of our mamas this um first one.

(01:25:40):
What is one thing you wish you could admit to other women more often without guilt orjudgment?
No pressure.
I mean, this one I go in so many different ways because like for me, there's no guilt andthere's no judgment on anything.
And like, you know, like, I just, I always like my clients will be like, I mean, don'tjudge me, but I went through his phone and I'm always like, there is no judgment.

(01:26:02):
Go through the phone.
Like I think, I think if your guts telling you something, you do it.
And I think that's one thing with girls.
like, I think like, yeah, follow your gut, go through the phone, do it like cause yourlife.
could be better or it could be worse.
Like you don't want to be the naive girl.
So doing hair and knowing what I know, I think that would be my number one thing.
Go through the phone, follow your gut.

(01:26:23):
I want that embroidered on a pillow.
Go through the phone.
You know, I love it.
I love it.
No, it's no more.
It's no longer blondes by Brady.
It's go through the go through his phone.
Go through his phone.
follow that handle immediately.
Oh no, I love that.
That's so, it's so true though.
You know, like women, like there's something, there's something intuitive.

(01:26:43):
Like it's just, it's part of our nature, you know?
And if you're at a point where like your relationship causes you to have curiosities aboutsaid phone, like that's all you need right there, you know?
will say another thing too.
It's like, again, like what a lot of my clients come to or like people on the internet islike, you know, everyone presents, you know, again, pregnancy.
I don't really feel guilt or judgment on anything.

(01:27:03):
So this one's a little hard for me because I am a very open book and very relatable toanyone.
But like another thing that's hard is like when people are pregnant and they're like, I'mnot enjoying it.
And I'm and that's my thing.
Not everyone loves it and it's okay.
And you're a normal.
So that would be another one too.
love that.
love, mean, obviously I love, I love everything to do with, with birth and pregnancy andyeah, freaking say it, you know?

(01:27:26):
I think there's a lot of, there's a lot of guilt and, you know, shame and story buryingand that.
And I just, I'm like, no, no, like you're a woman.
You have these feelings and these natural instincts, like speak to them and let them fly.
You can love your babies and hate being pregnant.
mean, that's the truth.
Like, mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Well, I completely agree with that one.

(01:27:48):
Next one, you have $1,000 to spend.
Nobody gets an opinion on how you spend it.
And you can't be responsible.
You can't pay bills.
What are you buying?
Okay, is Maxwell with me?
Give me a Maxwell one and then give me a solo mom one, two for one.
It's so true.
that girl I'm like, you need a job.

(01:28:09):
You are a she will order stuff on Amazon through her Alexa, like she is good at blowingsome money.
But if Maxwell is not with me, this one's hard for me because if anyone knows me, I am afinancial guru.
I do not blow money.
I'm very frugal.
So this one like gave me anxiety.
Like I was like $1,000 a spin like I'm like,

(01:28:32):
I would put it in my stock.
I would put it in my Roth IRA.
Like, I know, I'm like immediately.
I don't know.
I do love shoes.
I love shoes and like, um I love a good classic handbag.
I don't have, I'm not an abundance girlie, but like I'd probably do something that'sreally classy that I would have for a long time.

(01:28:53):
Yeah.
like, look at the Birkins.
Goodness, like, they hold their value literally globally.
uh Yeah.
What color would you get?
Yeah.
that kills me.
Oh.
Yeah.
like well yeah but I probably get orange orange like they're blue yeah orange or they'reblue
classic.

(01:29:13):
I, it's so funny.
This is like the closest I think I've ever been to like somebody who's like super stardom.
But when Chloe Kardashian was married to Lamar Odom and she would played for the Mavs, wehad courtside seats next to her and she had a yellow, like Lakers yellow, even though he
had already wasn't with the Lakers and he was with the Mavs.
And I was like, I, at that point I was like, I don't under, I didn't understand it.

(01:29:34):
And then I saw it in person and I was like, like,
it took my breath away, which I'm like, okay, that speaks to, I get it now, you know?
And it wasn't even like, it wasn't even like, my gosh, it's Chloe.
It's like, it's a Birkin and it's like highlighter yellow and it's gorgeous.
Like I get it.
It's so funny.
one on my list of things that I want.
It's like, think, again, I'm pretty responsible with my money, but I would definitely dosomething that makes money.

(01:29:59):
Yeah, no, I like it.
I like it.
You got to be true to your brand, you know, you can't can't can't steer off.
So all right, last one to truth and a lie.
And we're going to we're not we're not going to say what the lie is.
a lie.
Okay.
um Two truths and a lie.
um Let's just see.

(01:30:20):
Two truths and a lie.
My marriage took 60 days to be divorced.
Let's just say that.
To be divorced was 60 days.
um
to be truth, I literally knew these and then like, you know, when someone asks you likewhat you want to do and then you're like, I don't know what I like to do.
Um, yeah, literally like, uh, I want more children.

(01:30:47):
I have questions now.
Okay, so Maryan's took 60 days.
I want more children and...
uh
Maybe someone would shock us about a race day.
I like there's so much juicy tea from a race day.
True or not?

(01:31:07):
I know, I'm like, oh, that one's in its own category.
um
And my first race was Daytona.
Okay.
So if you're like a super sleuth could go, okay.
Okay.
I mean, I'm going to, I'm going to crop the date out of it.

(01:31:29):
I'm just, we're going to say it was your first race was Daytona.
And then if you're a real Brady diehard, you could go, you know, in the depths of, of thesocials and go back.
And I, know, it's so funny.
I have, I have the shirt.
I have the red, white and blue shirt, the red, white and blue bathing suit shirt.
And I was trying to find it.
classic.
my god, like, and it's so funny.
I told my husband, like, what year was that?

(01:31:51):
Gosh, forever ago.
But I remember telling him I was gonna buy it and he was like, are you gonna wear it?
Yeah.
we, I think I shot that stuff in 20, maybe 2018.
I think it was a year after Max was born.
did those.
Yeah.
telling my husband I was gonna get it.
He was like, you gonna wear it?
And I was like, well, first of all, hell yes, I'm gonna wear it, because I love Brady.
But I was like, too, you don't have to wear it.
She still gets the money.
That's the point.

(01:32:12):
I want to support this woman that I think is incredible.
So I have the shirt somewhere.
We've moved four times in four years.
And so I'm like, I have a vague idea of which storage unit it's in.
But I was like, dang it, I should have gotten it.
I still, I still get people that send me that they're wearing it.
And I'm like, the fact that that shirt has held up that long, good for you.
Like they're like, no, it's my favorite shirt.

(01:32:33):
Like it's Memorial Day shirt.
It's a 4th of July shirt.
Like it's, it's a voting day shirt.
I'm like, you wear that voting?
my God.
oh It's not the shirt that I would pick for going to vote, but love America.
Heck yeah, brother.
oh
love it.
That's so funny.
then you know, it's actually kind of mind blowing to me.
I know I got to go real quick.
But like, the fact is, I'm like, how many people still have like my poster in their garageor they have the t shirt and like, you don't really think about how many people actually

(01:33:00):
bought those.
mean, Diana is on a whole nother level.
But like, just for me on my level, I'm just like, you know, I only did like the one roundof them.
But like, how many are still out there?
Like, you know, like, it's just mind blowing that like I'm in someone's garage.
Oh my gosh, I'm gonna run that as a poll.
Like, do you have the shirt?
Where is it?
Do you have a calendar?
Like, I wanna know.

(01:33:20):
Like, I have a friend that we met later in life, and he's in the moto, and he's got one ofDiana's posters in his garage, like, buried behind stuff, and I was like, I couldn't,
like, her face was covered, oh, come on.
But I was like, wait, hold on.
I was like, who is that?
That's too funny.
Diana alone, right?
Like she's just a mogul in herself.
And like, I've always looked up to her and you know, she's definitely, she's a, she's agood role model.

(01:33:45):
I love it.
I love it.
So are you, ma'am.
I hope you know that.
You are a role model and you're a freaking badass.
And I am just, I am so excited to have done this with you.
I'm so thankful that you agreed to come on and just have this chat and you know, thanksfor, thanks for hanging out this morning.
I know, thank you for having me and I'm so happy for you.
And I mean, this is such a big deal for our sport and just women in the sport getting tobe recognized.

(01:34:09):
And we all have different journeys and we all have different roles and it makes the sportgo round.
Mm-hmm.
Yes, ma'am.
Well, I...

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