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Rekha Magon (00:00):
Honestly looking back now, I personally feel like the universe forced me to lay in bed for five months and to really, like, tune in to myself and tune in to like that inner voice that's telling you what you're meant to be doing, but you're not. You're just not tuned in to listen, and I feel that's why I feel like that those five months of my life were such a blessing, because I needed that experience to tune in and to listen to what I feel like. You know, it was messages from within telling you what you're meant to be doing with your life. So to be fully honest, like I think I just needed to slow down. I needed to tune in. And I love that you said
Hilary DeCesare (00:46):
tune in 10 times, because this is one of my go to tools that I teach people
Welcome to Relaunch to a Rich Life The show where powerful stories spark powerful shifts. Today's guest is Rekha Magon, a woman who traded spreadsheets for slow travel and turned a moment of stillness into a movement. She started with an accounting scholarship, climbed the ranks to senior auditor at KPMG, and it was during bed rest, while pregnant with her first child that everything shifted, everything changed, a laptop hanging above her hospital bed, and a life altering idea was born. So now she's reinventing education, rewriting the rules of work, life balance and helping families live and learn from anywhere in the world. How good does that sound? Rekha story is bold. She's brilliant, and exactly what you need to hear if you've ever felt the call to do life differently. So let's dive in. Hey, Rekha, how's it going? So glad to have you here.
Rekha Magon (02:03):
Thank you. Hilary, it's a pleasure to be here. Oh
Hilary DeCesare (02:06):
my gosh, this is going to be so much fun. And we discussed this before where, you know, these, these types of jobs that were very, you know, male dominated. I mean, you look at what you've been able to do with senior auditor at KPMG, very large. For those that don't know, consulting house, I was at Oracle high tech. I am so fascinated with the most significant relaunch that has literally shaped you. And we're going to dive into the twists and turns and the beds that it took you to. So let's go straight away into that and share with us how and in what happened during this relaunch.
Rekha Magon (02:50):
Sure. I mean, yeah, like you mentioned. You know, I started my career off in the corporate world. KPMG recruited me really early on within my first year of university, so I worked with them every summer, and then obviously started with them full time after I graduated. And you know, it was a great job, right? It was well paying, very stable full of opportunities to climb that corporate ladder. But despite all of that, I think I knew, like inside myself pretty early on, that something just felt off right, like I didn't, I didn't feel like what I was doing with my day lit me up in any way.
(03:32):
And I think, you know, things really shift when you get pregnant, you know, or you start think, you think of life really differently when all of a sudden, now you're responsible for this, for this other life. So when I got pregnant, and I was, like you mentioned, I was put on really strict bed rest very early on. So for basically five months straight, I had to lie on an incline, so my legs had to always be higher than my torso, and I had to lay in this position for five months. I wasn't allowed to get up to use the bathroom. I wasn't allowed to even sit up to eat a meal. I just had to stay in this position for five months straight.
Hilary DeCesare (04:13):
I can't even imagine you being a type A personality. You having this like it almost is. And I can say this because I had twins, and they initially said you're going to be on bed rest. And I thought it was like a death, you know, sentence, like, what? What am I going to do? Yeah, but like, you had this, like they you knew there was five months left, and when they told you that what was going through your mind,
Rekha Magon (04:41):
hey, you know, the first, I think the first day or two, like, it was a shock, you know? And we were, like, it was a total shock, because we were, we were actually leaving. We were flying to India The next morning, and I wasn't even supposed to see my doctor that day. We I just on a I actually was really excited to find out if we're having a boy or girl. And we were around that time. And I was like, ah, before you leave, like, please just see me. I just want to find out, you know, what the sex of the baby is before we leave. So I wasn't even supposed to see my doctor. Called her randomly the morning before flight. So that, in itself, was such a blessing, because had I not gone to the doctor that day and she had, had she not done this test, the baby would have never survived. She said, the minute the plane would have landed, I would have gone into labor and lost the baby. So it was a miracle on its own that I even went to see the doctor the day before this flight. And so, you know, here I was all of a sudden, told I'm not allowed to, you know, get off bed. And at first, you know, you're scared. Is a baby going to survive? What am I going to do for five months? How can I say this? So you kind of get kind of overtaken by fear, right? I would say for the first day or two that that's how I felt and and then I realized, oh my god, I still have this like soul inside my body, like this little human that's inside me.
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So I can either choose to stay in a state of fear and and, you know, let that influence the baby, or I can make, you know, change my consciousness, make this the best opportunity of my life, and turn it to gratitude. So I kind of like, I think, because I was pregnant, it motivated me to just change my mindset right off the bat, so that the this innocent baby wasn't taking on any negative or fearful thoughts. So and then from there on, like, I just everything just changed. Like, I let myself kind of wallow for a day or two, you know, like, watch some Netflix, and then I was like, Okay, I'm done. Like, we're gonna, we're gonna shift this around. So my my husband and my brother are, were these tech guys back then? So they found this, like laptop stand that hung from the ceiling. And there I was, you know, for five months with this laptop hanging over my head. I knew I wasn't being lit up, you know, by being an auditor. And I said, Okay, this is my opportunity. You know, the universe. I probably wasn't listening to the signs before that were coming my way, and now here I am with five months with nothing to do but a laptop over my head to really figure out, hey, what am I meant to be doing, you know, with this life?
(07:16):
And yeah, then that's when I was on bed rest. Is when I developed my first company, so it was called the mindful scholar. I to give you some context. I was brought up in this environment where I grew up with a lot of travel, a lot of mindfulness and community service as an upbringing, and I knew how deeply that shaped who I was and who I was becoming as a child, so I wanted to create that same kind of rich and intentional childhood for my own children. So I started off with this mindfulness company. And this was before mindfulness was a thing. So my first company was a mindfulness platform that brought social and emotional learning to public school system. That company went on to, you know, become win Canada's ninth ed tech innovation award. And the momentum really kind of launched me into the world of, I would say, impact driven entrepreneurship and like, how fulfilling that is to work on something that, you know, makes a difference in other people's lives.
Hilary DeCesare (08:20):
So that was going, let's, let's talk about this. Because you're on bed rest, you've got your computer over your head. And, yeah, what did you do? You know, in today's world, you could go ahead and, you know, tap into AI and you get prompts and it could, you know, help you. Well, this is the type of company you should be starting, but you didn't have that. And what did you do to kind of narrow it down? So for those that right now are thinking about maybe starting a business or maybe maybe relaunching into a different type of venture, how did you approach this
Rekha Magon (08:58):
good question? I guess honestly, at that point, when I was like, I think I for a while, I didn't know what I wanted to do up until that point, you know, like, I kind of struggled. I knew, I knew I didn't want to do auditing or accounting anymore, but I didn't have a clear message on what it is I could do instead. And that was one of my biggest, struggles, and honestly, looking back now, I personally feel like the universe forced me to lay in bed for five months and to really like, tune in to myself and tune in to like that inner voice that's telling you what you're meant to be doing,
(09:40):
But you're not you're just not tuned in to listen. And I feel that's why I feel like that. Those five months of my life were such a blessing, because I needed that experience to tune in and to listen to what I feel like. You know, it was messages from within telling you what you're meant to be doing with. Your Life. So to be fully honest, like I think I just needed to slow down. I needed to tune in. And I love that you said
Hilary DeCesare (10:08):
tune in 10 times, because this is one of my go to tools that I teach people, is how to tune in in a four step process so you can elevate your energy to be able to access that higher self that you were cast into that is so you're speaking my language. Girl, this is so good, but I know that coming from where you came from, you had to unlearn some things in order to actually build this new life. What exactly would you say that you couldn't carry forward into this new opportunity?
Rekha Magon (10:44):
Yeah, I think I had to definitely unlearn, you know, this belief system that's ingrained in us from our young, young age, that success comes from climbing up a corporate ladder and staying in one place and really sacrificing. You know, it's unsaid, but it's really there, right? People are, you know, you're kind of brought up to think that, oh, well, you have to sacrifice your personal fulfillment for stability, right? It's all about stability, and like, making your way up that ladder. And, you know, with with years, you'll, you'll eventually make enough money, and then when you retire, you can figure out what it is that fulfills you.
(11:20):
So I think it's, it was really unlearning that belief that wasn't mine, that I somehow inherited along the way. And, you know, realize that actually freedom, connection and then alignment with my own purpose, matters way more than any of that. So I think it was also a process of, kind of like releasing guilt, you know, because, at least as a woman, I don't know if as a woman or or maybe everyone feels like this, but sometimes when you prioritize your own joy, you feel guilty, or I felt guilty, at least like, why am I? I shouldn't be prioritizing my own joy, you know.
(11:57):
And I think another challenge that I had to, had to overcome, in my own mind, was the idea that parenting and professional ambition are mutually exclusive. Like, you know, like you're either an amazing parent or you have an amazing career, like you can't those two things cannot overlap, and then obviously, just with entrepreneurship, you know, trusting that doing something differently won't necessarily lead to fulfill its failure, but can lead to fulfillment.
Hilary DeCesare (12:28):
So it's interesting, as you said, that because there was that moment, then after five months, that's a huge accomplishment, right? And you have this, this baby, and what happened then? I mean, what did you do? Did you immediately just go back into your company? Did you take some time off? What was going through your head as you're thinking about the next part of your relaunch? Yeah,
Rekha Magon (12:55):
so once, once the baby was born, it was crystal clear, like I wasn't going back to the corporate world, you know, like I was gonna, I was gonna go, go full fledge with, with this startup. But it also was, like, crystal clear to me that, like, I'm a mom and an entrepreneur, you know, like they're not two separate, separate identities there, it's one. And for me at least, especially at that point, like, Mom was number one, you know, so, like, I was building a mindfulness company, but, you know, when he was really young, my number one priority was to be mindful to my child, right, and to what my child needed.
(13:33):
So I always put that first and then, like, okay, whatever, like, whatever else needed to to be built up for the company came and, and it came really naturally, right? Because I think I merged the two, and that was that was really powerful. And it was funny, though, like, I so, you know, he was small, building this company. Everything was going great. Was, wait, wait, you know, getting these awards. And, you know, he went off to kindergarten, right? So he started kindergarten. And, you know, he it wasn't like, it wasn't anything I imagined. Like here, I thought, I'm solving education by building a tool that's going to go into the education system and, like, help it. I very quickly realized that, oh, wait a minute, like, within a few weeks, I'm like, Oh, the education system, I felt didn't just need another tool. It felt like it needed to be rebuilt from the ground up.
(14:29):
That was my experience the minute he started kindergarten, you know. But I kind of like, it's like, okay, that's what I feel. But again, wasn't trusting my gut, wasn't listening to that, to that inner voice, and just kept, you know, pushing through my company, was doing great. It was winning these awards. And, you know, it's funny, he was, he was probably, like, five or six, and one night he's about to go to bed. And you know, I find kids really open up in those, like quiet moments, which are true, to fall asleep. And I thought he was sleeping, and he turned over to me, like, 20 minutes later, and out of nowhere, he was. Like Mama, my, my, what do you say? My heart and soul keep asking me, when will mama start homeschooling me? And I remember being
Hilary DeCesare (15:12):
no way. And I was like, say, what now? Who are you? Yeah, it really
Rekha Magon (15:20):
like, I remember I didn't sleep that entire night because I was like, here. I felt like, honestly, I felt like a bit of a hypocrite. I'm like, here I am building mindfulness solutions for kids all around the world, and I'm not even being mindful of what my own child needs at this moment. And, you know, and I saw literally that night. Like, I paused everything. I went, and I'm the type of person that goes really deep into rabbit holes. So like, I went through this deep rabbit hole of, like, homeschooling, and what are the curriculums out there? And, you know, how do you do it? And then I was still chicken, you know, I didn't pull him out of school right away. I would kind of like cheat the system.
(15:58):
So I would like, pretend he was sick for a week and test out one curriculum, then send it to school again for another month, and then pull them out another week and test out a different curriculum. And because I was too scared to, like, rip off the band aid right then and there, but then, after, like, a good, good six to nine months, I decided to pull him out. And went full full into homeschooling, and he basically became like my petri dish, right where we tested every curriculum, from Waldorf to the finished system to Reggio Emilio. And I just kind of figured out, like started figuring out what worked, what didn't work, and how you could really educate in a completely new way.
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And you know, the more I did that, the more I also felt like, you know why I started questioning or being inspired by the idea that education, community, family and global living, because when you start homeschooling, you can travel and go wherever you want and educate from wherever you want. All of that can actually really come together beautifully to give families a much richer and more connected way of living. And you know, with time, that vision just became much more louder than my fear. Let
Hilary DeCesare (17:14):
me ask you something that's really interesting is that you really are changing the face of education. And one of the things that I've done in the past is I had a company that was an Internet safety company to keep kids safe online. It's kind of early on, and it I had to go into a lot of schools see how the Internet and social was playing a part. There's laws to keep kids off of certain sites, just to keep them, you know, safe. But for you, you had this opportunity to home school your child. So firsthand, you're seeing what is really working what is not. And once you created that, when you knew, like, oh my gosh, this is really impacting my son. What did you do? What was the next part of okay, now where do I take this? How do I it's not just my son, but how do I now open it up to the
Rekha Magon (18:16):
masses? Yeah. So initially, after I started homeschooling, I helped launch a learning center in Montreal with some other homeschool moms that were were working on a project. So that was kind of like the first doorway to bringing it to more kids than just my own. And then my business, my now business partner, and the CEO of boundless, he approached me and he's like, Hey, Rick, I have this idea, and I feel like you're already kind of living the lifestyle. You're traveling, you're educating your kids, you know, why don't we make this kind of lifestyle more, you know, accessible to families around the world? So him and I started, we, you know, found another, another co founder, and we just went all in. It was, it was a really, it was just like, Okay, we're gonna make this happen. And within, you know, six to nine months, we launched our first location.
Hilary DeCesare (19:08):
So are you seeing that this is kind of the direction are you seeing? A lot more families are homeschooling. I know COVID For sure, people started to go in that direction. But now that we're, you know, a few years out, what do you what are you seeing now? And where do you hope that this continues to go? Yeah,
Rekha Magon (19:26):
I think COVID, honestly, was one of those moments in time where parents, for the first time, got a front row seat to what education actually looks like for their children. And, you know, I think it was also one of the first times where they were they noticed that, hey, my kids are not actually that engaged in like, what they're learning and like, there's really this lack of love for learning, lack of engagement. There's no personalization. It just felt like they're on this conveyor belt. But, you know, with the divide between family and education, there's very little, few off. Opportunities where you get to actually see and feel that. So I look at COVID as really the starting point.
(20:07):
I think of a movement where parents started to want something different, not only for education and for how their kids learn, but also for how they live their lives as a family, right? Like are they tied to one location for 18 years of their life, until their child graduates from high school, you know, or you know, through COVID, people then could work from anywhere, and their kids could technically go to school from anywhere. So that's actually when we launched boundless. Was during COVID, and it was amazing to see how many people came out. And then it's almost like an addictive lifestyle. Once you start living this way and you're you're free to live in, you know, any of the countries that we're in, and move to another one and continue your child's education without any disruption.
(20:57):
It's really hard to go back to a traditional lifestyle where, you know, you're just kind of on that conveyor belt. So I think COVID was definitely had a huge impact in starting this kind of movement of digital nomad families. And now I think it's just, it's taking off. I mean, we launched, it's only been three years, and we've had over 1000 families register with our programs. We're at seven different locations, you know, fully operational, selling out, you know, like, much earlier than we anticipated. So I definitely think there's, you know, this is a growing movement, and only will continue to grow.
Hilary DeCesare (21:38):
What do you think the percentage of home schooled kids is versus kids that are going to an actual school, not an actual school, but a school that they are going, you know, out of the home into a school. Yeah,
Rekha Magon (21:52):
I don't know that percentage off the top of my head, to be honest, but what we do see is, and you know, it's beyond just homeschoolers as well, right? There's a lot of families. I think there's a huge percentage of families, especially in the States, that are doing online school, right? So they're still registered with a with a full on school, but they're, again, not stuck to one location. And I think there's a lot of models coming out, like ourselves as well, that are hybrid models, you know? So you're integrating some academic, academic services from different organizations, and then still having that in person education. I think there's a lot of new models coming out. And even organizations like ourselves, we're more than halfway through being accredited, right? So we're no longer considered a homeschool program. We will be considered a fully worldwide recognized educational system that families can plug in, in and out of. So I think, you know, with more, I think entrepreneurial spirit coming into the education space, which it wasn't really there in the past. There are a lot of new models, a lot of new ways to educate that are coming to the surface and now being fully accredited. So how old your son right now? My son just turned 13.
Hilary DeCesare (23:17):
Okay? And so from you said, now you're looking to get accredited. How does your son if he continues to be homeschooled until the time that he graduates, and if it's not accredited, how does he if he wants to follow it up with additional education? Do you keep homeschooling him through college, university. Is it at that point? You're kind of like, where does it go from there? Well,
Rekha Magon (23:52):
so actually, in boundless life, we just this year my son 1013, we launched a middle school program. So this was the first time we've always serviced kids one to 12. As of this year, we launched a middle school program. So it was actually a traveling middle school program. We accepted 20 students from around the world. They registered with us for a year, and the entire group moved to three countries. So we started off in Bali for three months. The whole group moved to see those for three months, and now we're all here in Montenegro for three months.
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So same group of teenagers and their parents are just their parents, no, and their parents, the whole family, we had a leading educator that followed this group across the three countries, and it's been it's been incredible. And what we did for this program, and what we'll continue to do as we grow, is we partnered, like I mentioned, with an online accredited school, so the English, math and sciences are being done in our academic studios through a third party that has, you know, all the accreditation, and it's fully recognized. And then what we focus on during what we call boundless discovery hours is project based units that really focus on soft skills, executive. Functioning competencies. How can kids communicate properly? How can they be problem solvers?
(25:06):
How can they, you know, be effective researchers and like, you know, do design thinking. So really kind of focusing on those soft skills that I believe is what's going to make a huge difference in this kind of unknown future that we're all stepping into, so that they get the best of both worlds. They get this hybrid model of top notch academics, and then, as well as project based and personalized place based learning. So they're learning from all of the amazing countries that we're in well, and that
Hilary DeCesare (25:37):
also, when you tie in AI to that into the curriculum. It's amazing where this can go, especially with the hands on in countries, like you said, three different countries, that's incredible. How are you seeing AI is impacting what you're working on with boundless life?
Rekha Magon (26:00):
Yeah, AI is amazing. You know, I think I the way we look at AI is we look at it as a tool, right? So, like, how can we use AI to not only empower children to to, you know, use it as an effective tool, but even our staff members, right? So we use a platform that allows educators to see where there are learning gaps in different children's learning using AI, and then those learning gaps are you're able to fill those learning gaps through AI, because you know, one thing that's always gotten me is any parent who has more than one child will tell you that you know their two Children even though they're brought up with the same parents, the exact same environment are completely different, right? So why is our education system teaching every kid that was born in the same year the exact same way it makes it's never made sense to me. It never
Hilary DeCesare (26:54):
made sense to me either. And I've got three kids, and my husband has two, so we got five, and they are all so different in terms of how they learn
Rekha Magon (27:05):
exactly. So, you know, in our education centers, not only are a classroom multi ages, right, so that you're not just being grouped into a group of kids that were born the exact same year as you, but we also make sure that our education is personalized, so that you're really meeting every kid where they're at and not teaching to the age, but teaching to the ability. That's where
Hilary DeCesare (27:30):
it has to go, right? Because we put 30 kids into one classroom, and all different all different educational levels, they all have different ways of learning. I know my daughter is an auditory learner, like 95% so when she hears something, she remembers it. But if she's reading it, it doesn't, unless she reads it out loud, or can kind of pretend in her mind that she's reading it, so she hears it, it doesn't, it doesn't sink in. And then I've got my son, who is opposite, like, Just give him the hardcore numbers and let him look at something so things I really believe. And again, having a company in this space, it's such a slow roll, though. Why does it take so long to change this academic process. What do you think is the real reason, and what are you doing to try to try to speed it up a bit?
Rekha Magon (28:30):
I think it takes so much time because I think our society is very fear based. You know, people are scared of change. They're scared of trying something new. I think the first thing is, mindset has to be shifted. You know, like every other industry has changed, but education is still built. You know, was built during the Industrial Revolution. Is hasn't changed, right? We're still treating kids like they're part they're factory workers in a factory, and it just, it doesn't make sense. So I think you almost need like people that are a little bit crazy to like and try something just radically new.
(29:10):
And with time, we are gathering the stats and the data to show that this different approach to education, you know, I believe, is 10 times more impactful, you know, like the amount of resilience and adaptability that you see just just you innately get by just living a lifestyle like this. Forget even the education itself, just the lifestyle you know of like immersing yourself in a Balkan country like we just got here three days ago, and it's like it's so different than any other country. Fo r you, too many countries, this is
Hilary DeCesare (29:45):
the greatest part. It's not just for your student. It's for you. It's for your husband. It's like, Wow, I can't even imagine, you know, the family unit as you learn things together, as you learn the cultural I mean, it's. Yes,
Rekha Magon (30:00):
it is, honestly, as for a family, I think it is the most beautiful experience, at least it has been for ours, because you're taking yourselves out of your comfort zone, right like back and we're from Montreal, born and raised both my husband and I and my my parents are five minutes down the street. His parents are five minutes down the street. Our siblings are there. Our entire we have an amazing community, and I love them to death, you know, but to pull yourselves out of that comfort zone of everything that you know and just dive into the unknown, the amount of connections that that makes between your family unit of like
Hilary DeCesare (30:37):
trying to figure out how to buy groceries when everything's in Greek, or anything,
Rekha Magon (30:42):
or you're trying to work the washing machine for the first time that you have, there's no Instructions in English, you know. Like those shared new experiences as a family brings you together in such a deep, deep way that you cannot experience, I think, when you're back in your own environment, you know. So it's, it's been a, truly a blessing, even just for our own family. You know,
Hilary DeCesare (31:05):
I'm right now reading a book, and it's so it's called the comfort zone, create a life you really love with less stress and more flow. And it talks about, it's Christine Kristen Butler, and it is so fascinating, because it really discusses this whole concept of what excitement interest, the more you can get out of comfort, the more you can get to a place where you're like excited, and your brain is lighting up. You learn more. You You know, you continue to have that like quantum leaving. So I think it's incredible. Now, as we're wrapping up here, where can people find out more about you?
Rekha Magon (31:55):
So I mean, to find out more about boundless you would go to our website about
Hilary DeCesare (32:01):
the about Foundation, about boundless life.
Rekha Magon (32:05):
Boundless life, it's boundless dot life. Is our website, www, boundless dot life. We're on Instagram, we're on Facebook or on LinkedIn. You can find us anywhere. The website will give you a lot of information, and if you're interested from the website itself, you can book a discovery call with anyone from our family sales rep, and they will walk you through, you know what our programming looks like and what's available across the globe. And
Hilary DeCesare (32:31):
so if there are people out there saying, Wow, are my kids too old now, is there a you said you were doing Middle School? Is there High School? Are there programs that you can keep moving all the way until they're going off to college, university. Right
Rekha Magon (32:45):
now we're focused on we can serve ages one to 14. So we just launched the Middle School, which is 1314 with the partnerships that we're working on currently, in terms of like the hybrid model, we are signing partnerships with online schools that service all the way up to high school, so that we can continue to grow and, yeah, keep classes, you know, with time, add classes for the older ages as well. But we really believe in quality, you know. So we've already grown really quickly in a short amount of time. So we just want to make sure that we every new thing we do. We do it properly. We take our time, and we, you know, iron out all the kinks before we open up the next classroom
Hilary DeCesare (33:27):
well. And I also think with your son, as he ages up, there might be some high school type of entering into your world. I just have this feeling. But anyway, this has been fascinating. It's so interesting, and you so eloquently talk about it, and something that usually can be very confusing, and so many people don't know the alternatives and some of the options that are out there. So again, for those that are like, You know what? This might be? Something good. Maybe it's a niece, nephew, you know, relative.
(34:02):
Share this because it is, and I've seen it firsthand with some of my friends who did this, the kids are off the chart, like experienced and balanced, and it it really does end up impacting not only the child, but also the family unit. So I admire you so much. And you know what the Silver Linings the fact that you know you had to be in bed for five months. I mean, it was a really incredible relaunch for you and for the 1000s that you've helped getting into this. So anything that you want to share last thought as we as we end our show,
Rekha Magon (34:49):
yeah, I mean, I just want to say thank you. This is really, really nice conversation. You know, the way I look at it is, we're not just about traveling, right? We're really about Re. Writing the script for modern family life, right? What can how can families live? And to us, it's about building this ecosystem that nurtures learning and fosters really deep friendships with people from around the world, and most importantly, you know, creates an environment where families can be fully present, right?
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I don't think in this I think in this day and age, the thing people need the most is to not have to choose between, you know, growing your business, or working and togetherness. I think there are models like ourselves and others out there that create an ecosystem where you can have it all. You can be fully present with your family and still work and still send your kids to school. So I think, yeah, just final thoughts, is amazing, trying to unite the world more than separate. It. Recogn,
Hilary DeCesare (35:55):
thank you for being on relaunch to a rich life. What a great show, and so informative. And I think that we all needed to understand direction, direction of you know, possibilities of where education can take you no matter what you're doing. So thank you again for being here and until next week, everyone relaunch into your next best self and think about what are your possibilities? How are you going to get out of your own comfort zone? We'll talk to you again next week.