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August 21, 2025 31 mins

In Episode 484 of Relentless Health Value, host Stacey Richter talks with Dave Chase from Health Rosetta about the three most pressing questions faced by self-insured employers today. 

The discussion covers how to verify if a benefits advisor truly protects employer interests, avoiding personal liability when third-party administrator contracts have hidden conflicts, and identifying if employers are being systematically overcharged on pharmacy costs despite PBM guarantees. 

The episode emphasizes the importance of accessing comprehensive data to identify conflicts and transparency in reporting, and it highlights open source resources available to create high-performance health plans. The conversation also mentions noteworthy related episodes and cases to provide further context and insights.

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16:18 The Marshall-Hickenlooper bill called the Price Tags Act.

16:50 Summer Short with Elizabeth Mitchell.

17:36 How do plan sponsors figure out if they are being overcharged for pharmacy benefits?

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