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Welcome to Revealing Jesus. Are you hungry to learn more about our beautiful Savior Jesus?
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I am your host, Christina Perera, lover of Jesus, apostolic leader, licensed and ordained
minister, author, podcaster, and Kingdom Party planner. Did you know that the Bible declares
that grace and peace are multiplied to us in the knowledge of Jesus? And that simply
means the more we learn about our beautiful Savior, the more we will experience all He
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died to give us. Join me for all things the King and his Kingdom, including revelatory
teaching, interviews with Bible ministers, media leaders, authors, and more. Come discover
the beauty of God displayed all across the body of Christ. Together we are revealing
more of Jesus to a hurting world today.
Hey everybody, thanks so much for tuning into this week's episode of Revealing Jesus with
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Christina Perera. I am your host Christina and I'm so excited to have you with me here
today. I hope and I pray that you are doing well right where you are and enjoying the
continuously flowing favor of grace pouring from our beautiful Savior and Father in Heaven.
I've got a great show for you today. We're going to continue doing our summer throwback
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series and I missed you guys so much last week. You'll have to forgive me, there was
no episode because I was recovering from COVID. But thanks be to God, I am doing well. You
can, I'm sure, still hear it in my voice, but I have to say this has been the fastest
recovery I have ever experienced with Him. So I'm so thankful for that and I'm so thankful
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to be back with you guys this week and releasing another one of my favorite episodes. You know,
when I was going back and looking through episodes, this one just stood out to me. It
was a conversation that I had with singer-songwriter couple Cody and Julie Oliver. They had just
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released a couple of singles called Good Ground and The God Who Redeems and it was so sweet.
We had this amazing conversation about all of the places where God has redeemed their
lives and their testimonies. And I have to say, you guys, I have been looking back at
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my own testimony over the course of this year and I am seeing so many places where God has
redeemed so many things for me and He's still continuing to redeem. And you know, I'm so
thankful that that's who He is and you know, life can be hard. It can be challenging. It
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can be unpredictable. We do have an enemy and you know, we do live in a fallen world,
but He is the God Who redeems and I'm so, so thankful for that. And so if you need to
have God redeem a place in your life today, which who doesn't, right? I want you to listen
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to this episode and be sure to tune in to the prayer in the end and listen to their
song. It's so powerful. But before we get started, I want to give a quick shout out
to our Christina Perera Ministries sponsors, Gopher Ministries, who provides all of our
equipment rental, Life Changing Productions, who helps put together evangelistic events
to reach our city for Jesus, Harvest Family Network, through which I am licensed and ordained,
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Davis Financial Services, who does all of our financial accounting. I hope and I pray
that these episodes have blessed you. I pray that as you're listening, your faith is
encouraged and inspired and I invite you to sow back into this ministry so we can keep
bringing you these faith building episodes. You can find out more information on how to
sow back into this ministry at christinaperera.org slash donate or link in the show notes. Without
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further ado, let's listen in on my conversation with Cody and Julie Oliver.
Hey everybody, thanks so much for tuning into this week's episode of Revealing Jesus with
Christina Pereira. I am your host Christina and I'm so happy to have you with me here
today. I hope and pray that you are doing well right where you are and enjoying the
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continuously flowing favor of grace pouring from our beautiful Savior and Father in heaven.
I've got a great show for you today. I have two amazing leaders in the body of Christ
with me today. They are worship pastors at Resurgent Atlanta and they have a new album
coming out in August called Come and Move. Welcome to the podcast, Cody and Julie Oliver.
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Hi, thank you for having us. Hey, how are you? I'm so happy to have you with me here
today. It's been such a pleasure and honor to listen to your worship songs. I've been
really enjoying them. I've told our listeners a lot about you. Is there anything that you
can share with them? Maybe something personal just to help get to know you guys?
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Yeah, so we've been married almost five years. Both sets of our parents are pastors and our
first year of marriage we helped plant two churches which was a lot of fun. Quite the
adventure. Yeah, very much an adventure. Yeah. And with those, both of those churches were
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our parents. They had dreams at separate times from the Lord to plant churches and they asked
for help and we said yes and we've now been at one of those for the last five years and
we have a son. He's two years old. He's Ninja Walter Isaac. He's amazing. And we went on
the way. We don't know if it's for or growing up but they're doing January. Oh my goodness.
Congratulations. The family is growing. Thank you. So yeah. Oh, that's so wonderful. I love
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that you guys are just a ministry family and you know your parents are involved and it's
become part of your marriage and part of your life and just living out loving Jesus. That's
so beautiful. I love it. Well, you guys have two amazing singles out right now and I got
to listen to them on YouTube. Good Ground and Redeem It All. I absolutely loved them.
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I really connected with the Redeem It All. Can you tell me a little bit about your heart
and your passion for writing that? Yeah. Yeah. Thank you by the way. That's so awesome. I'm
glad you were able to listen to them. Redeem It All. A lot of these songs on this project
over the last three years, us being worship pastors at this church, we began to just kind
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of seek the Lord and pray about, you know, hey, there's some messages that are being
spoken and testimonies being shared that are really stirring some hunger and stirring just
conversation about how good the Lord is. And we kind of felt not a need but just an interest
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to start writing some songs around those messages and testimonies and bringing them to our house
and saying, hey, this is what we've been going through as a community and seeing the Lord
have breakthrough in and let's worship them together through these things. And Redeem
It All was a message that was brought by my mom. And you know, I think this is kind of
her quote unquote life message. You know, she's throughout her life, she began to notice
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that the Lord was able to redeem things in her life, meaning time or relationships or
even dreams that she had in her heart that, you know, know that they'll be fulfilled.
It may just look completely different and how the Lord will redeem those things to actually
come to pass. And, you know, even going through scripture and, you know, from Old Testament
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to New Testament, believing that redemption is one of the greatest stories that he tells
throughout the word. And so we started just kind of, you know, worshiping in our home.
And that's how all these songs were written. It's just at our piano in our house with,
you know, a kid show on the background and a baby screaming and having fun. But yeah,
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we wrote that song and out of that message. And it was just one of those ones that we
knew, man, people singing this or having connection, the Holy Spirit, they're having an encounter
with the Lord. And we had feedback from it that, you know, we didn't as pastors kids
and also as worship pastors, you don't, we didn't tell anybody, Hey, this is like our
song that we wrote, you know, honest feedback. You don't want the like pounds. So like, good
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job, but you know, right. Yeah. You know, songwriters and worshipers, you're like, give
us a honest feedback. Cause if it's, it's bad, we'll go back and worship. Right. And,
and the feedback from, from both good grounding, redeeming all were just so good. And from
all of them, actually, I mean, we, that was kind of our, our process of getting forward
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to this album is we would come and introduce a very rough version of the song in our, in
our church on a Sunday morning. And our team was awesome because I was sending them voice
memos at, you know, Thursday morning, like, Hey, just bring some creativity and, and all
these songs just started to formulate within our, within our church. And yeah, redeeming
all is just, we feel like that's a very, very special one. And we, we feel that it's going
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to become a, a very personal song for a lot of people to, and provoke, provoke their courage
and provoke their, their, their faith to ask the Lord to see things in their life be restored,
be redeemed. And we've already started to see that. And with the release of that song
have had an influx of testimonies, which have been, I mean, just blown us away, which has
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been amazing. Amazing.
Yeah. I love all of that so much. I can really relate to that. I'm such a worshiper at heart.
And a lot of times when I worship here at home, it's literally my daughter wanting to
dance with me and my dogs. And if you could see it, it's so anointed, but it's so chaotic.
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And I love that you guys kind of made it just a project, a team project. And I think that's
beautiful. Like having a community of believers come together and, you know, really pour out
the Lord's heart and lead us into the, into worship. Cause worship can be such a community
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experience, you know, so deep and profound. And what an amazing message from your mom
that he redeems it all. And oftentimes we, we think about God as just a redeemer of our
eternal salvation, but he's truly a redeemer in everything. What a great message. You have
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a story, a testimony of almost dying in a car accident, but your mom just held onto
faith and said, no, God's going to redeem this. Can you share that with our listeners?
Yeah. My mom's awesome. Just sweet shout out to, to Tiri. She's great. She's really awesome.
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But yeah, we, we, I was five months old and my family, we were traveling back from Georgia
to Texas. And we were, we were in a car accident in the very early hours of the morning and
the Jeep we were in flipped eight times and my mom and I both rejected and my mom broke
her back and shattered her leg punctured of the lung. And I think there's one other thing
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that I'm forgetting, but she comes to you on the highway. She's for her first thing
is Lord, I want to hear my baby cry. And this bright light appears to her and says, Hey,
do not fear. Like your son does not experience the pain that you do. He's dead. And for whatever
reason in her spirit, something just left out of her and just declared the thing. It's
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Psalms one 18 17. No Cody will not die, but he will live and proclaim the wondrous works
of the Lord. And as soon as she said that, that light just kind of like vacuumed up immediately.
And in that moment, we, we definitely believe that that was Satan disguised as an angel
of light. And I think there's a reference to that second Corinthians 11, I believe it
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because I just sucked up and she, you know, passes out and comes to in the hospital. And
then the upward battle of recovery for both her and I began, you know, I think they told
my family that, you know, if I would survive as a five month or year old, it would be,
you know, mentally challenged or handicap for the rest of my life. And, and, but both
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my mom and I have had complete recoveries. My mom has run two full marathons. And I'm
actually walking and living out what she declared over me in that, that moment and being worship
leader and been leading worship now since I was 12 or 13 years old. And so that's really,
really amazing. And then kind of even tying it back into the redeem at all thing. I mean,
26 years later to that date, the date that that car accident happens, my wife goes into
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labor with our starts having contractions for our firstborn son. And so for that, we
were just like, man, that date has been redeemed. I mean, in a lot of ways that was kind of like,
don't look at that date on the counter for, you know, everybody involved. You know, let's
just get through that. And now it's like, oh my gosh, like what was super, super dark
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in a very traumatic memory for all of our families now been turned around to a very joyful
and new life beginning for our family. And, and so that just ties into that whole redeem
at all message. I mean, just even things like that to, to, to see the Lord turn a significant
date around from bad to good is just beautiful. And it's just who he is. It's his nature, but
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that's the crazy testimony. And now we're kind of living in that thing she declared over us,
which is really, really cool. Yeah. Oh my gosh. I know you guys can't see it,
but I was tearing up when you talked about that date being redeemed and it's now your,
your son's birthday. And that's so crazy and amazing. That is just like Jesus.
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Yeah. Yeah.
It's so in his nature. If we will just give him the broken, the hard, the traumatic, all of it,
he can redeem absolutely every single piece in ways that we can't even fathom. And absolutely,
absolutely. I love that. And I love that your worship music is coming out of a deep place
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of faith and intimacy with him. Julie, can you talk about the seeking the presence of the Lord
and your worship songs? I love that you guys honor that so much. And I think there's such,
such power in that. We should pursue that. I'm a, I'm a presence seeker as well. There's nothing
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like his presence. Can you share how that's impacted your worship? Absolutely. You know,
I think I was, I was privileged to grow up in a home with, with parents who really honored
the presence and honored the word of God and, and, you know, helped me recognize what that was and
understand from a young age, you know, something we believe is that there's no junior Holy Spirit
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that the Holy Spirit can, can speak to kids, you know, however young and, and we shouldn't always
just assume that, oh, they don't understand, like, you know, children can have incredible
encounters with the Lord at any age. And so they raised me with that knowledge and just awareness
to, to honor the Lord and to, and to know the word of God, because to know the word of God is to
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learn about his character and his nature and you learn how he speaks. So it's easy to hear the tone
of his voice whenever he speaks to you. So I think in worship, you know, worship is just ministry to
the Lord. And when you're leading it's ministry to the people in the room to lead them back to him,
to, to say, Hey, let's put our eyes back on Jesus and, and worship at its core is, you know,
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it's reverence, it's adoration, but it's an agreement with who God is. And so I think God
deserves to be worshiped for who he is, not something that we make him out to be. And,
and I just think that he loves us and he loves our uniqueness in our worship,
but there's a purity that comes whenever we lay ourselves down and whenever we say, you know,
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not my will, but yours be done less of me and more of you. So I think in corporate settings or,
you know, when we're in a group, when we're leading at church ministry to the Lord is always our first
priority of saying, Hey, if even if nobody else was in the room, I'm going to give you a call or
if people are in the room, 50, a hundred people, however many, I'm still going to put my gaze back
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on you. And that just unlocks something in the spirit whenever we make him our priority and
whatever capacity of leadership that you may be in, whether you're the pastor, whether you're the
worship leader, whether you're someone, you know, standing on the front row, your worship unlocks
things in the spirit because we're two or three gathered together. So is he. And so I think having
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that unity of purpose of we're here, not to sing a feel good Christian song and, you know, good 15
minutes, let's go home, but really just to meet with him there and to commune with him and really
just recognize his presence and, and honor him there. I think that's our heart for worship is
ministry to him and then ministry to people in that ministry to people is just equipping them.
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And so I think that when, especially when we're writing our songs, we have to understand the
weight of we often learn how to think about God from what we sing about God. And so we always want
our songs to be, you know, rooted in biblical truth and again, to worship God for, for who he really
is. And so, but yeah, that's what we love to do. I love that. Oh, go ahead. No, you go ahead. Sorry.
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No, that's okay. I think even just, you know, prioritizing presence over everything else. I
mean, that's, that's kind of the foot that we lead lead from at our local church. And yeah,
I don't even know what I was going to add onto it, but yeah, you did great.
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So good. I love that so much. And, you know, it's for me, I'm such a worshiper and
I'm a, a fiery preacher. And it, to me, like, it doesn't really matter what we're doing.
We should all be pointing people to Jesus in every capacity. And I absolutely love that so much,
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you know, and I found in my own experience, if we point people to Jesus, Jesus will take care of a
lot of the ministry to people. And if we just glorify him, and I love that you mentioned that
fixing our gaze, no matter where we're at in the audience, will unlock heaven and attract, you know,
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attract the attention of the Holy Spirit. And when we glorify Jesus, you know, that's when the Holy
Spirit is so attracted to it. And he comes in, you know, just moves among us when we're glorifying
the beautiful son. So that's so good. That's so good. Well, is there anything burning on your
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heart that you'd like to share with our listeners today?
I don't know. I think that there's just a passion stirring for worshippers who want to worship in
spirit and truth again. Not that, you know, there has been a break in, you know, no one's worshipping
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the rocks are crying out. That's not what I'm saying. I think that there's just this hunger for
depth that's stirring right now that we can see. And no matter what, you know, denomination or
stream of church you find yourself in, there's something that the Holy Spirit's just drawing us
to have a deeper level of worshiping in spirit and truth. And I think that entails a hunger for the
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Word of God, and that entails a hunger for His presence. To say, you know, Holy Spirit, come and
do what you want to do. One of our main songs that's not out yet, the title of our album is
called Come and Move. And it's just an invitation to say, Lord, here's our best. Would you come?
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And do what you only can do. You know, we put our sacrifice of praise on the altar, and we know
that you'll come with your fire. And so that's just our prayer right now for our church, for the
global church. And I know that we're not alone in that. I think that many people may be feeling
that right now, just a stirring for depth again, in worship, in presence, in our time together.
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You know, we're not satisfied just with the surface level stuff anymore, you know, because that
doesn't satisfy this deep hunger that He's put there in us. And so I just think that appetite is
just growing. So, absolutely. That's a great point. You know, I always tell people, it's, we don't
have time to play church anymore. We just don't. And the most beautiful thing is that hunger, that
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deep hunger that you talked about, it's never been satisfied by the superficial, by the Wednesday
night potlucks and all of that stuff. It's never been satisfied by that. We've just had so many
other things to distract us from that. And those distractions are quickly going away. And we are
being faced with circumstances that are so far beyond our control that we are realizing how
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desperate we've always been for the presence of God. You know, a lot of times in worship, you know,
I just was having some time with Him before we got on the call here today. And a lot of times when
we're in His presence, we realize how deeply hungry we've been, how starved for love, how,
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and I spend time with Him every day, multiple times a day. And I'm still like, oh, how am I so
hungry? But you know, that's the beautiful thing. The more you eat, the hungrier you get for His
presence. Have you guys experienced that in your omis? Cody?
Of course. I think there's been seasons where, I mean, even when, you know, I accepted Jesus when I
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was, you know, when I was four years old, I remember, you know, knowing that my dad was
a Christian, and I was like, I want to know Jesus. And so I had the privilege of, from a young age,
walking with the Lord. And there have been seasons throughout my, you know, my childhood and my
teenage years where, you know, they're leading a youth group of six kids in a back room and singing
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the only song I knew how to play on the guitar when I was 11, which was from the inside out.
But I remember being, which is such a great, that's a great song.
I know it's so good. I love it. It brings back a lot of fun vocal cracks and just all the things.
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Such a good, good season. But I mean, from 12 to 15, 16 years old, I just remember being so hungry
to worship the Lord that, you know, growing up playing sports and friend groups and all these
different aspects of my life changed because I was like, I had a fresh encounter with the Lord,
and it drew me into this place of, man, I really want to know who he is. And I think even for myself
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in this, to be a little bit maybe vulnerable, I think in this last maybe three or four years,
I'm re-going, you know, having an invitation from the Lord to go, hey, you have been,
you believe certain things that you've been taught, which you believe them, but let's,
let's kind of sift through that. And that way you can better articulate why you do so that you can
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either in moments of conversation, you can either witness or that you can stand firmer on what you
already do believe. And I think there's an invitation there, even just what Julie said,
that spirit and truth that, you know, it will never die out. There will be seasons where I'm
going to go straight into the word and want to do that every day and do devotions and, you know,
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go through, you know, chapter by chapter stuff in the Bible. And then there'll be seasons where
I'll sit at the piano and just sit in his presence and worship him and allow that. So that, that,
that relationship is just there. And I think as you, you grow in a hunger and a desire to just be
with him and become like him, that invitation is just there and you can just go and spend time
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with them and get fed. But then, like you said, you know, the, the more you eat, the more you get
hungry. That's just how it works in the kingdom of God. You know, I think, yeah, you hit on the head
if you're hungry or whatever you say. He said, I'm super hungry, but I'm never going to be satisfied
because it's just how he operates. Yes. Yeah, it's okay. And he's so beautiful. And you know,
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the most amazing thing is we don't have to wait until worship on Sundays. We can connect with him
right in our houses, just like you guys had talked about when we first started this conversation.
Yeah. And I know that I love, you know, when I worship at home, I turn on YouTube and you guys
have an awesome YouTube channel where you have your songs out. And that's sort of really amazing
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way that, you know, people can go and connect with you guys and connect with the presence of the Lord.
And, you know, if you just open your Bible and I love to just say, Lord, here I am. And he's already
there. It turns my attention to what's already there. You know what I mean? Absolutely. So good.
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Well, would you guys pray for our listeners before they go that they could experience
his presence and connect with him either, you know, on Sundays or in their homes or
however they like. Yeah. Well, Lord Jesus, yeah. Thank you for meeting with us this morning
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directing this conversation, Lord, for anybody listening, wherever they're listening,
that you would just be meeting with them right now. Or just
open up ears for them to hear you this morning. Or just start a hunger to seek your face,
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to worship you in spirit and in truth. Or would you just strengthen them?
That you would just lead them in their life and in their walk and in their decision making.
And I just feel like a new wave of perseverance is being added this morning.
Whatever you're going through, whatever trial or whatever circumstances before you that
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consider it pure joy. The Lord will use it to work things out for good and to show you
things about his nature and his faithfulness and show you things that he's put inside of you.
You know, Lord, we just ask that you would just mark us as presence people. That we would just
be so hungry for your face, your presence, your word. That when we go out and about in our daily
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walks or in our, there would be something different and that people would be able to feel the presence
of the Lord. And it would engage us in conversations to witness about you. And that's what we're going
to do. We're going to be able to feel the presence of the Lord. And it would engage us in
conversations to witness about you and to lead people and point people to you and your goodness
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in the cross. We love you, Lord. We give you all the praise. We thank you for what you're doing in
our lives and what you have done and what you will do. We give you all the glory. Thank you.
Julie, do you want to add anything? Sure. Yeah, Father, I just ask that for all the
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the parents right now who have kids in the home or have kids just returning to school,
Lord, that their homes would just become presence centers. That they would have such
heavy encounters with you as they worship, as they pray, as they read your word, Lord, that
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they would have the thought, I never knew I could meet you here like I have felt in other places
and other environments. I thank you that your presence goes beyond the four walls of the church.
It even goes beyond the four walls of our home. So as we get filled up with you,
Lord, that we would be presence carriers, spirit carriers to everywhere we go.
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And from this overflow that people would come to know you, Lord, that I ask you for friends
and that we've been praying for for years would be saved in Jesus' name, that they would come to
know you, that they would see your goodness and your faithfulness and your love just radiating
just radiating from us, God. What I ask you just just for supernatural miracles
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right now, Lord, thank you. We just stand in agreement for what people are praying for as
they're listening right now. Yes, we just say yes and amen in Jesus' name. Amen. Amen. Thank you
guys both for praying. Those are both some powerful prayer prayers and you are absolutely correct.
You know, I can feel the presence of the Lord where two or three are gathered in his name.
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He is there in the midst. And, you know, I always pray that on these podcasts that people will
not only learn about Jesus and who he truly is, but they will really encounter him.
So thank you for those prayers. Of course. So good. Well, I hope and I pray that today's episode
has blessed you. I will have links from today's podcast and resources in the show notes on
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cpnshows.com under revealing Jesus with Christina Pereira. There you can find additional resources
to connect with us and our special guest, Cody and Julie Oliver, and find out more information
on their new album, Come and Move, that will be out in August. Until next week, may grace be with
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you. May grace and peace be multiplied to you in the knowledge of Jesus. God bless.
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Lord, I see that you move in my life and in my heart. There are things you're a time,
things I thought were too far gone. But throughout our history, it's time after time.
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And without fail, you always remind me redemption's your favorite story to tell.
So I lift my eyes, oh I lift my head, I know that you'll fulfill your promises. If the story
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isn't good, the story's not over. If you, you can restore all things, you can turn bitter into sweet.
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So I stand upon this belief that you are God who redeems. And you can return what is lost,
you can make right and bring home. If I ask, then I will receive. If you are God who redeems.
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Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, you will redeem it all. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, you will redeem it all.
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More than ever ceased, even in my darkest night
I know, I know that you're working
For you have good plans for mine
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The story's unfolding
And though I only see in time
I'll trust in you
And as I surrender
You are making all things clear
So I'll lift my eyes
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So I'll lift my head
And I know that you'll fulfill your promises
If the story isn't good
The story's not over
If you, you can restore
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All things
If you can turn bitter into sweet
So I'll stand
Upon this full of me
That you are God who redeems
If you can return
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What is lost
You can make right
Every wrong
If I ask
Then I will receive
Oh yes, you are God who redeems
Oh, oh
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Oh, oh
You will redeem it all
Oh, oh
Oh, oh
Oh, oh
Oh, oh
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For who you are
And all that you will do
Is all my soul
Is all my soul can do
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For who you are
And all that you will do
So I'll lift my eyes
So I'll lift my head
And I know that you'll fulfill your promises
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If the story isn't good
It's not over
Yes, you're restoring relationships tonight
You're restoring dreams we've created
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Yes, you're restoring families
Oh, because you're such a good God
It's just who you are, it's in your nature
If the story isn't good
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The story's not over
If the story isn't good
The story's not over
Oh, because you
You can restore
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All dreams
Because you can turn fear into sleep
So I'll stand
Upon this belief
That you are a God who redeems
And you can return
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Right to us
Because you can make right
Every hope
If I ask
Then I will receive
Oh, yes, you are a God who redeems
Oh, oh
Oh, oh
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You still will redeem it all
Oh, oh
Oh, oh
Oh, oh
You still will redeem it all
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Can we sing that bridge together?
Yes, oh
So, oh
So, oh
So, oh
So, oh
So, oh
So, oh
So, oh
So, oh
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So, oh
So, oh
So, oh
My soul thanks you
For who you are
All that you will do
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So, oh
My soul thanks you
You are in all that You live to.
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You are in all that You live to.
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You are in all that You live to.
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You are in all that You live to.
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You are in all that You live to.
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And I thank You, Father. And I thank You, Holy Spirit.
And I pray all of these things in Your beautiful Son's name. Amen.
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