October 28, 2024 • 41 mins
Bible literacy is paramount to counter misleading teachings and foster a true understanding of God's Word. Only when we embrace Jesus, who is grace Himself, can we prophesy correctly, always pointing to Jesus. Join Christina Perera for an enlightening episode of Revealing Jesus, as she welcomes back Jared Laskey, host of Adventures in the Spirit and founder of Fireborn Ministries. This episode dives deep into the role of Christian media, discerning prophetic voices, and the necessity of Bible literacy in the modern age. Christina and Jared discuss the transformative power of living a life devoted to Jesus and how media can be a tool for spreading the gospel effectively.
Christina and Jared explore the theme of reformation within Christian media, focusing on the need for genuine prophetic voices that lead followers closer to Jesus. They discuss prevalent issues such as Bible illiteracy and the dangers of self-proclaimed prophetic messages circulating on platforms like TikTok. Their discussion emphasizes the importance of personal revival, understanding one’s identity in Christ, and living in the fullness of God’s graces. Jared shares his vision for a new wave of Christian programming that brings heaven to earth while staying rooted in scriptural truth and outreach. "Revival and awakening need to flow out everywhere we go... the focus is to reveal Jesus." - Jared Laskey Listen to the end for powerful prayer!
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Welcome to Revealing Jesus! Are you hungry to learn more about our beautiful Savior Jesus?
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I am your host, Christina Perera, lover of Jesus, apostolic leader, licensed and ordained
minister, author, podcaster, and Kingdom Party planner. Did you know that the Bible declares
that grace and peace are multiplied to us in the knowledge of Jesus? And that simply
means the more we learn about our beautiful Savior, the more we will experience all He
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died to give us. Join me for all things the King and his Kingdom, including revelatory
teaching, interviews with Bible ministers, media leaders, authors, and more. Come discover
the beauty of God displayed all across the body of Christ. Together we are revealing
more of Jesus to a hurting world today.
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Hey everybody! Thanks so much for tuning into this week's episode of Revealing Jesus with
Christina Perera. I am your host Christina, and I'm so excited to have you with me here
today. I hope and I pray that you are doing well right where you are and enjoying the
continuously flowing favor of grace pouring from our beautiful Savior in Father in Heaven.
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I've got a great show for you today. I have an amazing friend with me back on the podcast.
He's been on this podcast a couple of times. We just get along so well. He loves the Holy
Spirit. He is the host of adventures in the Spirit, and he is the founder of Fireborn
Ministries. Please help me welcome back Jared Laskey. Jared, welcome back!
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Well, thank you so very much, Christina. It's an honor and a pleasure as always to be on
Revealing Jesus and to reveal Jesus to your audience, your listeners, your viewers, and
see where the Holy Spirit takes us. But quick question, what is a Kingdom Party Planner?
I saw that on your intro. What is a Kingdom Party Planner?
So, it was so interesting because the Holy Spirit actually told me to say that. And so,
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I have a huge evangelistic heart. And the Bible says that all of heaven rejoices when
one person repents and turns to Jesus and accepts Him as their Savior. And so, you know,
when I first started out in ministry, we would play in gospel events, I would call them.
And so, we would do events like the King's Table and cookouts for Christ. And we would
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share testimonies, and we would invite people in. And it was a really, really fun season.
It was a hard season, but it was really fun. It's something I still love to do. But you
know, there's times and seasons where God shifts us into new things. And so, but yes,
I am a Kingdom Party Planner. I love it. Well, as the scripture says that
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the angels in heaven rejoice when one sinner repents and turns to the Lord Christ Jesus.
I'm paraphrasing just a little bit there. But that is a Kingdom Party, so I love it.
So yeah, awesome. I know, isn't that funny? I love the Holy Spirit. He's always got, he's
always very witty and very funny and very joyful. I know, isn't it amazing? So, you
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know, you've been doing adventures in the Spirit for a long time. And you know, I've
been doing Revealing Jesus now for four years. And you know, we've been coming into this
season, you know, a lot of us pioneers, you know, and I believe you're one of them. The
Lord had us doing some things like Kingdom Party planning and revealing Jesus and adventures,
adventures in the Spirit. But what is the Lord putting on your heart to do new in this
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season? Oh my gosh, I'm going to take it next level.
Okay. This is secret between you and me and your
audience. Well, you know that we're all connected here, right? So I'm no longer going to speak
right here. But I think people, people could see the
direction that I want to take it and the direction I want to go. I want to step into more media,
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TV broadcasting. And so I think Adventures in the Spirit will step into that. Now I'm
not sure if it will be the podcast form or format, but that's real easy. Like even if
I changed the show and everything about it, because Christina, Christian TV needs to change.
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Okay. And I've been to a YWAM, Youth with a Mission film school a few years ago and
learned a lot in those three months about videography, about film, editing, screenplay,
all that, and seeing the keys to keep people's attention. And God bless all those programs
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out there. I got friends who've got TV shows. I've been on studios and stuff like that.
And you know, promoting, you know, you got to promote your books. You got to promote
your brand. You got to promote Jesus Christ above all. But for me, for Adventures in the
Spirit, I want to take it into a type of a TV show interview with some other shots and
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some travels and stuff like that. So I know that you were, is this a secret for your audience?
Are we spilling secrets right now? You were interviewed by the 700 Club, CBN. Amen. So
you know, I want something kind of similar to that programming. And I was a student at
Regent, so I've seen, you know, been acquainted with some of the programming that they have
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there. They're reaching hundreds of millions of people for Jesus under the late great Pat
Robertson's vision. So God bless his ministry and the legacy is he has left behind. But
I've seen some of the keys. And so I want to step into something new and a show that
is different than the rest. And but it's still servant hearted, it's still focused on the
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Holy Spirit, but also the prophetic. But Christina, we need a reformation in the prophet. Yeah,
I know. You and I have had conversations on the phone. I want the pure prophecy. I want
the pure points to Jesus. I've seen too many people repost prophetic words and act as their
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act as if it's their own word, not give credit where credit is due. Now as a seminary student,
as a college student, we know we need footnotes for all our sources. For some reason in a
prophetic community, people are not citing their sources, right? They're trying to take
things on their own. They're not saying, oh, they're like, hey, this is my word, or they're
regurgitating something else that they've heard rather than getting a fresh word from
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the presence of God themselves. But then there's some wacky things promoted as doctrine is
practice right now that I'm like confused about. We just had this amazing comment that
showed up, you know, for like a week, right? That you can look off in the horizon for see
it better through your camera phone and stuff. But we got a perfect view of it out here.
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Christians weren't going wacky about this compared to what? Six, seven months ago, they're
going wacky about this moon thing. And then there's another moon and there's another,
there was another eclipse and there's going to be 200, 300 some odd more eclipses in the
next 10 years. But for some reason, people on Tik Tok, these people who don't have the
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accountability, they don't have the relationships, they're just throwing it out there on Tik
Tok, making people think that it's the end of the world, that Jesus is coming, that the
rapture is going to happen right after this thing. But notice how they're silent now,
but nobody is correcting the prophetic in those circles. Now, maybe in other circles.
I'm just, I'm just like, you know what, things have got to change. And I see too much of
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it pointing to people rather than to Christ himself. And so I kind of just want to switch
things back into more of an evangelistic thing. I just want to win souls for Jesus. Amen.
The programming, I just want to focus on that and sure people receive a baptism of the Holy
Spirit healings through those, those programs, but there, there has to be a shift because
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I think too many prophetic ministries are pulling people to themselves a little too
much rather than, and just gaining followers and say, you know, are you following that
person, that brand, that personality, or do you want to follow Jesus? Yeah. I'll get off
my soapbox right now. I'm sorry. No, it's good. It's good. It was stirring some stuff
in me and you know, it's so interesting because I feel like if we're spilling secrets right
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now, you know, this whole way that we're doing, revealing Jesus now, you saw my new intro
video, this is new. And I feel like he's moving me into that, that part of it as well. And
I'm so excited. And you know, Jared, I think it's amazing to see our generation taking
up the torches of media ministry and using it to reach people for Jesus. And I agree.
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So many things have to change. You know, I was on Instagram the other day and I saw somebody
posting a dream they had about Christians being in hell. And I was like, Oh my gosh.
You know, I was like, Lord, this is just, I can imagine the fear that it imparted to
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some believers out there. And, and Jesus wants us to live with a confident, confident expectation
of salvation. It's based on Christ's alone and what he's done and the finished work.
And you know, I am all for holiness, but the most holy people are the people who are devoted
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to Jesus. You know, I was walking with the Lord yesterday and he said to me, I've got
a lot of followers, but I don't have a lot of devoted ones. And there's a big difference.
There's a big difference. And Jared, I, what we were talking about was this plague of Bible
illiteracy, that, that people are so illiterate in what the word of God says, that they see
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something like that on TikTok, on Instagram, and they can't discern whether this is really
God, you know, or it's the enemy. And if you are Bible illiterate, you cannot discern,
what a true prophetic word means because the true prophetic will point to Jesus. The Holy
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Spirit always declares what Jesus has done for us and what he's purchased for us and
who we are now in him. And so the Bible actually says that the work of the Holy Spirit is three
things. One, he comes to convict the world of the sin of not believing in Jesus, of rejecting
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him. Right? We all were under that category when we first became believers, right? We
were convicted to the truth and the reality of Jesus Christ and what he's done for us.
Okay. Number two, as a believer, the role of the Holy Spirit is to convict believers
of righteousness and what God has done for us. The Holy Spirit takes everything that
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Jesus has and has done and makes it known to us. And number three, the Holy Spirit convicts
the enemy that he has been judged and his time is short. And so if we are not Bible
literate, when we see these things come across our feeds, it can cause fear. It can cause
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so many different things. It can cause people to question their salvation. You know, I believe
that Jesus is coming. Don't get me wrong. I believe he's coming, but my eyes are not
focused on the moons. My eyes are focused on the people who are going to get left behind
if they don't hear the truth and the revelation of Jesus and become devoted followers of Christ.
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So you know, I feel like as new covenant believers, that's where we need to focus. We, our eyes
shouldn't be on the signs coming in the heavens. We know lift up our eyes. Our redemption is
drawing near. Our eyes need to be focused on the great commission and the people that
God has placed in front of us. Time is short. Time is short.
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Yeah. Well, I'm in wholehearted agreement with you. The unfortunate thing is people
are pulling them, people to themselves. And a lot of what I've seen is the biggest, some
of the biggest voices that last a few months know how to market. And it has nothing to
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do with anointing. It has nothing to do with character. And you're right about biblical
illiteracy. It's rampant. And I mean, I'm a theologian. I've got some degrees in this
and I don't want to, you know, I've got them hanging up on my wall, right? Like three of
them. Okay. But I need to get in the word every single day and Christians need to get
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in the word every single day rather than relying on someone else's opinion or I even step here.
This is kind of heavy. We need to hear the voice of God for ourselves every day between
us and him, but not everything probably 95, 96% of what he tells you is between you and
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him. Even if he's, even if he's giving you insight into the future. Okay. Do you really
have to post it? And then when it actually happens, do you really have to say, Hey, I
posted this back then. Look at me. Do we really have to announce it with trumpets? Yeah. No,
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we don't. You know, like people, people will know the genuine from the real. I've had prophets
tell me before Jared, you know, you don't need titles. You don't need any of that. Just
people will know. People will know and say conversations. Okay. Like you and I can talk
about Jesus, talk about Holy spirit all day long signs and wonders, you know, our love
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for Christ Jesus all day. We could share stories about what Jesus did, you know, but you, you
and I both know that we don't have to walk in with our credentials, with our titles.
Yeah. People will automatically start talking about things. It's an invitation. The Holy
spirit's moving on them and inviting us to partner with what he's doing in their life,
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whether it's for them to come to Christ, whether it's for them to receive the baptism of the
Holy spirit, whether it's an answer to some question about apologetics in the scripture,
or maybe they're talking about dreams. Like just people naturally talk about their dream.
I had this dream last night, I had this dream last night. And then I'm like, well, Jesus,
you know, is the interpreter. God interprets dreams. And so I have them share it. And then
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God interprets the dream through me as we see in the scripture, you know, some people
like, I interpret, I interpret, I, I just, I that, well, it's Jesus through you. That's
that I just want to point to him, but people will just naturally do this rather than us
tooting our own horn or unfortunately people throw people under the bus all the time, you
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know, and then there's this competition, unhealthy competition that, that I, I don't work with
the drama. I don't deal with the drama. There's still that it's fallible people, you know?
But I think with, you know, people there's, there's people that want the pure, but then
there's also the people that too far on the judgment side of the house. How many times,
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how many times have they tried to say that this judgment is going to be here now? And
I've been through like, I don't know, 40 of them last 40 years.
Yeah. Well, and the truth is, is it goes back to spending time with Jesus. It goes back
to spending time in the word. And so if you actually read when Jesus came, when he, when
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he began, officially began his ministry, he actually opened the scroll and he read from
Isaiah and Jesus actually read this portion of scripture. He didn't read the entire passage
from Isaiah because it wasn't time for the entire passage from Isaiah. So what Jesus
read is the spirit of the Lord is upon me because he has anointed me to proclaim good
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news, you know, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, all the way down. Isaiah. I don't have it
in front of me right now, but Isaiah 61. Yes. But he specifically stopped right before my
bed. Isaiah 53, 62, someone, someone correct me. I'm getting my Bible. I'm a theologian.
I'm like, Oh, I can't even reference. Hold on. But you're on a roll. Don't stop Christina.
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No, no, no, no. So listen, so listen. So he specifically stopped right before that portion
in Isaiah came to and the day of judgment of our God, he stopped right after the acceptable
year of the Lord's favor. And right now, my friends in the new covenant, right now in
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the church age, we are living in the acceptable year of the Lord's favor. And what that means
is the free blowing grace of our Lord Jesus Christ is raining right now. There will come
a day when it is time for the rest of that prophecy to be fulfilled and the day of judgment
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of our Lord will come. But notice the heart of God. And so specifically Isaiah states
the acceptable year of the Lord's favor and the day of judgment of our God. A year is
much, much longer than a day. And so if you look at those two contrasts, you can see that
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the heart of our Lord Jesus Christ is for mercy, for goodness, for salvation, for healing,
deliverance, everything he came and died to give us. You see, he wants us living in those
things, living in the day. I mean, living in the year of his favor. But make no mistake,
those who choose not to live in his favor and accept his salvation, there will be coming
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a day of judgment where all of these things will happen. And you see God in his mercy,
he's giving us this church age, this year of his acceptable favor to tell people about
the goodness of God, the favor of God, the grace of God before the day of judgment comes
because God in his mercy sent his son to receive the judgment that was due to you. Right. And
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those who accept his sacrifice and say, Lord, thank you for being my savior. Thank you.
Thank you so much. We will not be here on the day of judgment because we will be with
the Lord and his favor and his goodness and his kindness and his mercy. You know, the
Bible says that it will take an eternity for God to show us the mercy, the grace and the
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kindness that he has towards us in Christ Jesus. And that's the truth. And that's what
we need to proclaim while we still have the chance.
And for the Christian, you'd mentioned how some people are fear, you know, Christians
in hell that that Christians fear not because of what Christ Jesus has done for us as he
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took all the judgment on himself. He took the wrath of God upon himself. He became sin
for us. He imputed righteousness into us. And when it comes to the great white throne
judgment, the end of the end where everything is unveiled, Christians are rewarded. Yes.
Nonbelievers are judged. Christians are rewarded. Now there are things that we did in our body.
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Yes, our whole life is going to be unveiled before Christ Jesus. But I think it's going
to be more of what lessons did you learn? What did you learn? And then did you have
Christ Jesus? So when he sees when he unveils all those things, he's seeing Christ in us,
the hope of glory. So Christians are rewarded. We don't have to fear. Now there are things
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in this life that happen. There are health things, there's emergencies, there's all
kinds of things in this life. But Christina, I had a near death experience what a year
and a half ago. And what I saw, what I experienced was the most sublime peace in the midst of
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the pain that took place. And the cloud of witnesses and the realities of, of, you know,
I didn't see into heaven, but the cloud of witnesses that were there with me in that
situation, there was still the most peace. I was describing it to my wife. I was like,
it was, you know, what I'd felt was the deepest peace I've ever felt in my life. Now another
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time that I'd felt similar peace was going to Mother Teresa's tomb in Calcutta, you
know, where it was the most peaceful place and her quotes were on the wall. But that
peace is the shalom of Christ Jesus. So Christians have that peace. And so I just want to like
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share the hope of Christ Jesus and let Christians know, hey, fear not now. You're going to be
rewarded. You will enter into heaven, but it's not about getting us dying and going
to heaven. It's about bringing heaven to earth. Heaven will combine heaven, that plane of
reality, that existence, the heavenly abode of God is brought to this earth as this earth
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is renewed. When I was younger, I thought it was going to be like nuclear war, this
planet, boom, you know, like star wars, the whole planet explodes, but it's not this earth
is renewed like gold refined enough fire. It's impurities are taken out and it's renewed,
made new, restored to the original God's intention from the Garden of Eden worldwide. So that
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shows me even now, our task is to bring heaven to earth and heaven into us because Christ
Jesus is in our hearts, in our spirits, our spirits are saved. And then we are the carriers
of the arc of the covenant. We are the carriers of the presence everywhere we go. And we bring
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heaven to earth, which is why we need to see healing signs, wonders, miracles everywhere
we go, salvations everywhere we go. But that's not the focus. The focus as your podcast is
named is to reveal Jesus.
So good. And you know, it's so interesting what's coming up in my heart right now is
that the majority of Jesus's ministry, two thirds of his ministry, the Bible says he
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went about doing good, healing all who are oppressed of the devil for God was with him.
And so, you know, what causes repentance? What causes people to change their mind about
God? It's God's goodness, God's favor, God's mercy, God's kindness, God's undeserved healing,
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God's undeserved deliverance. And we have, we have to get back to preaching the new covenant
of grace because it's, it's the grace of God that we will sing forever for all eternity.
Purity is the lamb who was slain. It's the covenant of grace engraved on the hands of
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Jesus Christ that stand. It's the open hand of grace nailed that stands for all eternity.
And that's what we worship the lamb of God in the midst of the throne who was slain.
And oh my goodness, where are the preachers and the teachers proclaiming this? Where are
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they? I'm one, but I know of a few other voices, but the Bible says that in the last days,
yes, there will be signs and wonders, but it will also be filled with the glory of the
knowledge of the son of God. Oh my gosh. Oh, can you imagine Jared? You know, I've been
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preaching about this revival of God's goodness, of God's mercy, God's glory, God's all of
these beautiful things for four years, four years, Jared. And I'm telling you earlier
this year, this wave of God's goodness that I'd only seen in the spirit is, is crashing.
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Every time I close my eyes, it's upon me every time, every time. And he is wanting to be
good to people while he still can. He is wanting to snatch people from the fire while he still
can. And you see, as the prophetic, we should be pointing to him because the Holy spirit
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always points to Jesus. The Holy spirit never comes to glorify a man or a woman. He only
comes to glorify Jesus. And so when we preach and we teach about Jesus, the Holy spirit
loves to just invade the space so that, that, that, that he's testifying, he's witnessing
that this person is truly a servant of God. And that's how we can discern the pure prophetic
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from the mixture, from the judgment. He lightened me up today.
Amen. Well, you mentioned grace and I'd heard it said that grace, and this is like a deep
theological profound term that grace is getting what you don't deserve.
Oh, a hundred percent. But I think, I think that's important. I don't think that that's
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the full thing because when we're outside of Christ, we receive his grace. We don't
deserve it, but we receive his grace. But now in Christ, he's given us more than we
deserve. He's given us the riches, the treasures, the, the, the profound intimacy with Christ
Jesus. So now that we're in Christ, yes, we are saved by grace through faith, not by works,
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right? We're saved by grace, but now in Christ, because it's Christ in us, we deserve, we,
he were given the abundance of heaven and then mercy is not getting what you deserve.
Right? We, we need the grace and we need the mercy. Right? So we've, maybe we've done horrible
things, horrible sins, but now, you know, we deserved a punishment, but because of Christ
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Jesus, he gave us grace. He gave us mercy. And then that overflow from him flows out
of us. And everywhere we go, we pour out his grace. We poured out his mercy and people
start coming up to us and asking us questions and sharing their dreams and asking questions.
Like, what is this hope in you? What do I see in you? You know, like for me, I, you
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know, there, there are people that I could look in their eyes and I learned this in India
when I was 18 years old, look into people's eyes. You could see what their faith is. You
could see who's they are and who they are. You see Christ in them, the hope of glory.
And then everywhere we go, the abundance, the overflow pours out of us and people, people
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start flocking to it. And we, we, you know, I've been, I was talking to a friend of mine
for coffee this morning. And so I'm on my second cup, but I was talking to my friend
for coffee today and it's just like, you know, yeah, I want revival. I want awakening. I
want it all, but it has to flow out of the churches. It has to flow out of the four walls.
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Now church buildings are only a 2000 year old concept. Revival and awakening is taking
place everywhere we go. It takes place in our homes. Okay. With our kids, with our family,
that's the first place it's supposed to take place is in our homes, in our boat. But then
it flows out in the grocery stores. It flows out when we're driving. Okay. You know, because
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there's been so we're talking about from the conversation about how churches had revival,
but the neighbors just thought it was a bunch of people parking there. It's revival. It
should flow out to the neighbors. It should flow out to your Jerusalem. Acts one eight,
your Jerusalem. It should flow out to your Judea. It should flow out to your Samaria.
It should flow out to the ends of the earth. And that's one of the things like for me,
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it's like, I'm here in Arizona. I need something that reaches my Jerusalem right now. I'm reaching
the Judea and Samaria. I'm reaching the outermost parts of the earth, but what am I doing locally?
So that's also another thing that I'm strategizing about, but that's revival on awakening needs
to flow out everywhere we go. And as I said, you know, hopefully I'm not messing people's
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theology up, go to church. Okay. Go to church, go to the one that your family loves, enjoys,
and that Jesus is glorified that preaches the Bible, that stands on the word of God,
the truth of God, but also be prepared if there is no church walls, be prepared because
there are millions of Christians in other countries still meeting in caves, still sneaking
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around to go pray together for five hours a day before they go to work, still being persecuted.
And we've got it easy here and we promote revival and you and I, you and I do conferences.
We do seminars, we do webinars, we do all that, but I'm very careful with the word
revival. It's like, okay, is this a one day revival or is this a Jesus revival that's
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going to change and transform lives and grow and, you know, just explode and expand and,
you know, be a sovereign move of God. I don't want to put my stamp of approval on what God
has already put his stamp of approval on.
You know, and it's so interesting. I think the true mark of living in revival is often,
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are we stewarding that personal revival for us? I know for me, when the Spirit of God
showed up in my bedroom, it lit my life on fire and he's never left. And I just want
to say this is that we are designed to live in that constant flowing grace. And Jared,
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I prefer to look at the new covenant like this. It's all grace. It's all grace. Yes,
I was saved by grace, but guess what, Jared? I'm healed by grace. Guess what? I have favor
because of grace. Guess what? I have deliverance because of grace. Guess what? Everything I
touch prospers because of grace, because it was not of my own doing. I deserved none
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of it. And yet I got all of it because of the doing of one and his name is Jesus Christ.
And so that's how I prefer to look at it. And you know, that that's a safe place. That's
a safe place. Understanding that makes you safe for promotion because you know what,
when God puts you in front of those people, you know that you don't deserve to be there,
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Jared, but he has put you there because he is so favored you because you've so looked
to him and not yourself, you know, and it's now him that's flowing through you because
when we look to him, he's blowing and he makes us radiant. And you're right. People look
at us and they're like, oh my gosh, you're glowing from the inside out. Well, guess what?
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That's because it's Jesus, you know, and it's no longer us. And you know, the more that
we live in that personal revival, stretching ourselves out across that out, that that altar
every day where his devoted ones, devoted ones, you know, the Lord said to me yesterday,
there's a difference in following and being devoted, devoted stretches out across the
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altar even when it's not going well, devoted stretches out and bows down when they persecute
you devoted stretches out when, when he says go and you don't want to go and you, you,
you don't understand how you're going to go or what you're going to do or what you're
going to say. Devoted goes anyway. And that's the difference between being a devoted follower
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of Jesus and simply someone who was following an Instagram profile because it spoke of a
word that tickled their ears and they thought sounded good in the moment, but they had no
substance of the word of God. If you understand that what these people were saying was erroneous,
that's the difference. It's the fruit to the fruit. You know, is there good fruit? Is this
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glorifying Christ Jesus? Is this revealing the character and nature and will and word
of God? Like I've got some acronym out there about the W's, you know, the word, the will,
the ways of God is this revealing? Is this revealing Jesus? And some of it, some of it
right now isn't, but yeah, Jesus have your way. Yeah, that's, that's all I can say. You
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know, I've been asking so many questions. You know, we've got some people who need some,
some prayer. And so I see his name is Steven. Let's pray for Steven, Jared, before we go.
And then if you would pray for all the people who are going to listen to this later, let's
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pray for Steven and then let's close it out. Okay.
Steven, Steven, Steven. I think I've, I don't think I've personally met Steven before, but
Holy Spirit touched Steven right now in Jesus name. We agree with him. Jesus heal his lungs
from asthmatic, C O P D and the right knee pain in Jesus name. You love Steven. May your
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healing virtue pour into Steven. Lord, we command his body. Our bodies were made from
the dust to the earth and we could command the earth. We have dominion over the earth.
So we command knee pain gone in Jesus name. Yeah. May Steven also breathe the breath of
life. We pray against this asthmatic C O P D in Jesus name, pour out your spirit upon
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Steven. May he breathe the new breath of life. You breathed into Adam's nostrils in the garden
of Eden, breathe into Steven's nostrils may flow into his lungs in Jesus mighty name.
Amen. Now I even pray just for like a rest or a new lungs. Okay. New lungs, new lungs
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in Jesus name. Yeah. Oh, by faith we appropriate that. So give him new lungs, man. I'm healed
and whole in Jesus name. Jesus name. Yeah. Father, I just, I just see your healing anointing
flowing right now. And father, I just release it into Steven father. I command even the
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tissue in his lungs to just be rejuvenated now in Jesus name. And I speak a Shalom peace
to his immune system. Father, I thank you that it will no longer attack erroneous substances.
Father, I thank you for a Shalom peace. And if there are any issues that have created
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this, any stress, any emotional things, God that have created this, I command healing
to his soul now in Jesus name. And what I'm seeing right now in the spirit is a DNA structure.
So Lord, if there's any missing column, but anything missing in that DNA molecule in that
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DNA structure, we command all those synapses, all that stuff. And she, you know, Jesus,
you know, the scientific terms. I don't command the healing and the DNA, anything that was
inherited. Jesus name, we command it gone and Jesus. So bring healing to the DNA structure.
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And I also, you know, I've seen this before that in our DNA structure is the name of Yahweh.
Yeah. Personal name of Christ. So, you know, Steven, you knew him before the foundation
of the earth. So bring forth healing in that DNA. We claim to be near Jesus in Jesus name.
Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. And God, I just thank you for just awakening those dead parts of
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his lungs. Ooh. Yeah. Father, I thank you for just deep breaths, just awakening, awakening
the tissue to breathe deep. Yahweh. Yeah. Thank you, Lord. Yeah. Thank you, Lord.
I'd like to say, if you don't mind, Christina, I'd like to say if anybody doesn't have a
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relationship with Jesus, call out to him personally, right now, say Jesus, your Lord, turn away
from your sins. Tell him that you're sorry. Tell him to repent of your sins and commit
yourself wholeheartedly to Christ Jesus and start talking to him. You confess with your
mouth Jesus is Lord, believe in your heart. God raised him from the dead. You are saved,
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secure, you're safe in him and then ask for Holy Spirit to fill you up and give you more
and more of Christ Jesus to reveal the word of Christ Jesus to you, to plug you into a
great community of believers and to have as much of the Holy Spirit in your life as possible
in Jesus name. Whether you're watching this from, I know David Raj from India, talked
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to him quite a few times. So if you're watching this from India, Brazil, whatever other places
are you listening into this on the audio podcast platform of revealing Jesus, give your life
to Jesus or ask the Holy Spirit to fill you up and reveal Christ to you.
Amen. So good. So good, my friend. Thank you so much for being here with me today. This
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was so fun. I was about to say fun too. Yeah, it's a lot of fun. It's always fun when we
get together and we have spirit-filled friends because it's like we have this communion together,
this deep connection, even though I haven't known you very long and we've maybe only had
five conversations, but that's just the beauty of the kingdom and the beauty of Christ within
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you, Christ within me and the Holy Spirit around us.
Well, we should do a conference revealing Jesus Holy Spirit fest or something.
I love it. I'm down for it. I'm down for it. And healing too, because I feel like we need
that. Yeah.
Of course.
Healing prophetic, revealing Jesus.
And miracles.
Yes, and discernment and Bible literacy. I have no idea what I'm going to call this episode.
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Just putting that out there.
Just shooting the breeze with Jared and Christina.
Oh, good. Well, thank you so much for tuning into this week's episode of revealing Jesus
with Christina Perera. I will have links from today's show notes where you can connect with
us and our special guest, Jared Laskey of Adventures in the Spirit. Until next week,
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Hey everybody! Thanks so much for tuning into this week's episode of Revealing Jesus with
Christina Perera. I am your host Christina, and I'm so excited to have you with me here
today. I hope and I pray that you are doing well right where you are and enjoying the
continuously flowing favor of grace pouring from our beautiful Savior in Father in Heaven.
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I've got a great show for you today. I have an amazing friend with me back on the podcast.
He's been on this podcast a couple of times. We just get along so well. He loves the Holy
Spirit. He is the host of adventures in the Spirit, and he is the founder of Fireborn
Ministries. Please help me welcome back Jared Laskey. Jared, welcome back!
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Well, thank you so very much, Christina. It's an honor and a pleasure as always to be on
Revealing Jesus and to reveal Jesus to your audience, your listeners, your viewers, and
see where the Holy Spirit takes us. But quick question, what is a Kingdom Party Planner?
I saw that on your intro. What is a Kingdom Party Planner?
So, it was so interesting because the Holy Spirit actually told me to say that. And so,
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I have a huge evangelistic heart. And the Bible says that all of heaven rejoices when
one person repents and turns to Jesus and accepts Him as their Savior. And so, you know,
when I first started out in ministry, we would play in gospel events, I would call them.
And so, we would do events like the King's Table and cookouts for Christ. And we would
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share testimonies, and we would invite people in. And it was a really, really fun season.
It was a hard season, but it was really fun. It's something I still love to do. But you
know, there's times and seasons where God shifts us into new things. And so, but yes,
I am a Kingdom Party Planner. I love it. Well, as the scripture says that
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the angels in heaven rejoice when one sinner repents and turns to the Lord Christ Jesus.
I'm paraphrasing just a little bit there. But that is a Kingdom Party, so I love it.
So yeah, awesome. I know, isn't that funny? I love the Holy Spirit. He's always got, he's
always very witty and very funny and very joyful. I know, isn't it amazing? So, you
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know, you've been doing adventures in the Spirit for a long time. And you know, I've
been doing Revealing Jesus now for four years. And you know, we've been coming into this
season, you know, a lot of us pioneers, you know, and I believe you're one of them. The
Lord had us doing some things like Kingdom Party planning and revealing Jesus and adventures,
adventures in the Spirit. But what is the Lord putting on your heart to do new in this
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season? Oh my gosh, I'm going to take it next level.
Okay. This is secret between you and me and your
audience. Well, you know that we're all connected here, right? So I'm no longer going to speak
right here. But I think people, people could see the
direction that I want to take it and the direction I want to go. I want to step into more media,
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TV broadcasting. And so I think Adventures in the Spirit will step into that. Now I'm
not sure if it will be the podcast form or format, but that's real easy. Like even if
I changed the show and everything about it, because Christina, Christian TV needs to change.
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Okay. And I've been to a YWAM, Youth with a Mission film school a few years ago and
learned a lot in those three months about videography, about film, editing, screenplay,
all that, and seeing the keys to keep people's attention. And God bless all those programs
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out there. I got friends who've got TV shows. I've been on studios and stuff like that.
And you know, promoting, you know, you got to promote your books. You got to promote
your brand. You got to promote Jesus Christ above all. But for me, for Adventures in the
Spirit, I want to take it into a type of a TV show interview with some other shots and
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some travels and stuff like that. So I know that you were, is this a secret for your audience?
Are we spilling secrets right now? You were interviewed by the 700 Club, CBN. Amen. So
you know, I want something kind of similar to that programming. And I was a student at
Regent, so I've seen, you know, been acquainted with some of the programming that they have
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there. They're reaching hundreds of millions of people for Jesus under the late great Pat
Robertson's vision. So God bless his ministry and the legacy is he has left behind. But
I've seen some of the keys. And so I want to step into something new and a show that
is different than the rest. And but it's still servant hearted, it's still focused on the
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Holy Spirit, but also the prophetic. But Christina, we need a reformation in the prophet. Yeah,
I know. You and I have had conversations on the phone. I want the pure prophecy. I want
the pure points to Jesus. I've seen too many people repost prophetic words and act as their
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act as if it's their own word, not give credit where credit is due. Now as a seminary student,
as a college student, we know we need footnotes for all our sources. For some reason in a
prophetic community, people are not citing their sources, right? They're trying to take
things on their own. They're not saying, oh, they're like, hey, this is my word, or they're
regurgitating something else that they've heard rather than getting a fresh word from
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the presence of God themselves. But then there's some wacky things promoted as doctrine is
practice right now that I'm like confused about. We just had this amazing comment that
showed up, you know, for like a week, right? That you can look off in the horizon for see
it better through your camera phone and stuff. But we got a perfect view of it out here.
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Christians weren't going wacky about this compared to what? Six, seven months ago, they're
going wacky about this moon thing. And then there's another moon and there's another,
there was another eclipse and there's going to be 200, 300 some odd more eclipses in the
next 10 years. But for some reason, people on Tik Tok, these people who don't have the
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accountability, they don't have the relationships, they're just throwing it out there on Tik
Tok, making people think that it's the end of the world, that Jesus is coming, that the
rapture is going to happen right after this thing. But notice how they're silent now,
but nobody is correcting the prophetic in those circles. Now, maybe in other circles.
I'm just, I'm just like, you know what, things have got to change. And I see too much of
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it pointing to people rather than to Christ himself. And so I kind of just want to switch
things back into more of an evangelistic thing. I just want to win souls for Jesus. Amen.
The programming, I just want to focus on that and sure people receive a baptism of the Holy
Spirit healings through those, those programs, but there, there has to be a shift because
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I think too many prophetic ministries are pulling people to themselves a little too
much rather than, and just gaining followers and say, you know, are you following that
person, that brand, that personality, or do you want to follow Jesus? Yeah. I'll get off
my soapbox right now. I'm sorry. No, it's good. It's good. It was stirring some stuff
in me and you know, it's so interesting because I feel like if we're spilling secrets right
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now, you know, this whole way that we're doing, revealing Jesus now, you saw my new intro
video, this is new. And I feel like he's moving me into that, that part of it as well. And
I'm so excited. And you know, Jared, I think it's amazing to see our generation taking
up the torches of media ministry and using it to reach people for Jesus. And I agree.
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So many things have to change. You know, I was on Instagram the other day and I saw somebody
posting a dream they had about Christians being in hell. And I was like, Oh my gosh.
You know, I was like, Lord, this is just, I can imagine the fear that it imparted to
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some believers out there. And, and Jesus wants us to live with a confident, confident expectation
of salvation. It's based on Christ's alone and what he's done and the finished work.
And you know, I am all for holiness, but the most holy people are the people who are devoted
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to Jesus. You know, I was walking with the Lord yesterday and he said to me, I've got
a lot of followers, but I don't have a lot of devoted ones. And there's a big difference.
There's a big difference. And Jared, I, what we were talking about was this plague of Bible
illiteracy, that, that people are so illiterate in what the word of God says, that they see
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something like that on TikTok, on Instagram, and they can't discern whether this is really
God, you know, or it's the enemy. And if you are Bible illiterate, you cannot discern,
what a true prophetic word means because the true prophetic will point to Jesus. The Holy
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Spirit always declares what Jesus has done for us and what he's purchased for us and
who we are now in him. And so the Bible actually says that the work of the Holy Spirit is three
things. One, he comes to convict the world of the sin of not believing in Jesus, of rejecting
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him. Right? We all were under that category when we first became believers, right? We
were convicted to the truth and the reality of Jesus Christ and what he's done for us.
Okay. Number two, as a believer, the role of the Holy Spirit is to convict believers
of righteousness and what God has done for us. The Holy Spirit takes everything that
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Jesus has and has done and makes it known to us. And number three, the Holy Spirit convicts
the enemy that he has been judged and his time is short. And so if we are not Bible
literate, when we see these things come across our feeds, it can cause fear. It can cause
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so many different things. It can cause people to question their salvation. You know, I believe
that Jesus is coming. Don't get me wrong. I believe he's coming, but my eyes are not
focused on the moons. My eyes are focused on the people who are going to get left behind
if they don't hear the truth and the revelation of Jesus and become devoted followers of Christ.
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So you know, I feel like as new covenant believers, that's where we need to focus. We, our eyes
shouldn't be on the signs coming in the heavens. We know lift up our eyes. Our redemption is
drawing near. Our eyes need to be focused on the great commission and the people that
God has placed in front of us. Time is short. Time is short.
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Yeah. Well, I'm in wholehearted agreement with you. The unfortunate thing is people
are pulling them, people to themselves. And a lot of what I've seen is the biggest, some
of the biggest voices that last a few months know how to market. And it has nothing to
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do with anointing. It has nothing to do with character. And you're right about biblical
illiteracy. It's rampant. And I mean, I'm a theologian. I've got some degrees in this
and I don't want to, you know, I've got them hanging up on my wall, right? Like three of
them. Okay. But I need to get in the word every single day and Christians need to get
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in the word every single day rather than relying on someone else's opinion or I even step here.
This is kind of heavy. We need to hear the voice of God for ourselves every day between
us and him, but not everything probably 95, 96% of what he tells you is between you and
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him. Even if he's, even if he's giving you insight into the future. Okay. Do you really
have to post it? And then when it actually happens, do you really have to say, Hey, I
posted this back then. Look at me. Do we really have to announce it with trumpets? Yeah. No,
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we don't. You know, like people, people will know the genuine from the real. I've had prophets
tell me before Jared, you know, you don't need titles. You don't need any of that. Just
people will know. People will know and say conversations. Okay. Like you and I can talk
about Jesus, talk about Holy spirit all day long signs and wonders, you know, our love
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for Christ Jesus all day. We could share stories about what Jesus did, you know, but you, you
and I both know that we don't have to walk in with our credentials, with our titles.
Yeah. People will automatically start talking about things. It's an invitation. The Holy
spirit's moving on them and inviting us to partner with what he's doing in their life,
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whether it's for them to come to Christ, whether it's for them to receive the baptism of the
Holy spirit, whether it's an answer to some question about apologetics in the scripture,
or maybe they're talking about dreams. Like just people naturally talk about their dream.
I had this dream last night, I had this dream last night. And then I'm like, well, Jesus,
you know, is the interpreter. God interprets dreams. And so I have them share it. And then
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God interprets the dream through me as we see in the scripture, you know, some people
like, I interpret, I interpret, I, I just, I that, well, it's Jesus through you. That's
that I just want to point to him, but people will just naturally do this rather than us
tooting our own horn or unfortunately people throw people under the bus all the time, you
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know, and then there's this competition, unhealthy competition that, that I, I don't work with
the drama. I don't deal with the drama. There's still that it's fallible people, you know?
But I think with, you know, people there's, there's people that want the pure, but then
there's also the people that too far on the judgment side of the house. How many times,
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how many times have they tried to say that this judgment is going to be here now? And
I've been through like, I don't know, 40 of them last 40 years.
Yeah. Well, and the truth is, is it goes back to spending time with Jesus. It goes back
to spending time in the word. And so if you actually read when Jesus came, when he, when
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he began, officially began his ministry, he actually opened the scroll and he read from
Isaiah and Jesus actually read this portion of scripture. He didn't read the entire passage
from Isaiah because it wasn't time for the entire passage from Isaiah. So what Jesus
read is the spirit of the Lord is upon me because he has anointed me to proclaim good
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news, you know, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, all the way down. Isaiah. I don't have it
in front of me right now, but Isaiah 61. Yes. But he specifically stopped right before my
bed. Isaiah 53, 62, someone, someone correct me. I'm getting my Bible. I'm a theologian.
I'm like, Oh, I can't even reference. Hold on. But you're on a roll. Don't stop Christina.
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No, no, no, no. So listen, so listen. So he specifically stopped right before that portion
in Isaiah came to and the day of judgment of our God, he stopped right after the acceptable
year of the Lord's favor. And right now, my friends in the new covenant, right now in
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the church age, we are living in the acceptable year of the Lord's favor. And what that means
is the free blowing grace of our Lord Jesus Christ is raining right now. There will come
a day when it is time for the rest of that prophecy to be fulfilled and the day of judgment
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of our Lord will come. But notice the heart of God. And so specifically Isaiah states
the acceptable year of the Lord's favor and the day of judgment of our God. A year is
much, much longer than a day. And so if you look at those two contrasts, you can see that
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the heart of our Lord Jesus Christ is for mercy, for goodness, for salvation, for healing,
deliverance, everything he came and died to give us. You see, he wants us living in those
things, living in the day. I mean, living in the year of his favor. But make no mistake,
those who choose not to live in his favor and accept his salvation, there will be coming
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a day of judgment where all of these things will happen. And you see God in his mercy,
he's giving us this church age, this year of his acceptable favor to tell people about
the goodness of God, the favor of God, the grace of God before the day of judgment comes
because God in his mercy sent his son to receive the judgment that was due to you. Right. And
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those who accept his sacrifice and say, Lord, thank you for being my savior. Thank you.
Thank you so much. We will not be here on the day of judgment because we will be with
the Lord and his favor and his goodness and his kindness and his mercy. You know, the
Bible says that it will take an eternity for God to show us the mercy, the grace and the
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kindness that he has towards us in Christ Jesus. And that's the truth. And that's what
we need to proclaim while we still have the chance.
And for the Christian, you'd mentioned how some people are fear, you know, Christians
in hell that that Christians fear not because of what Christ Jesus has done for us as he
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took all the judgment on himself. He took the wrath of God upon himself. He became sin
for us. He imputed righteousness into us. And when it comes to the great white throne
judgment, the end of the end where everything is unveiled, Christians are rewarded. Yes.
Nonbelievers are judged. Christians are rewarded. Now there are things that we did in our body.
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Yes, our whole life is going to be unveiled before Christ Jesus. But I think it's going
to be more of what lessons did you learn? What did you learn? And then did you have
Christ Jesus? So when he sees when he unveils all those things, he's seeing Christ in us,
the hope of glory. So Christians are rewarded. We don't have to fear. Now there are things
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in this life that happen. There are health things, there's emergencies, there's all
kinds of things in this life. But Christina, I had a near death experience what a year
and a half ago. And what I saw, what I experienced was the most sublime peace in the midst of
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the pain that took place. And the cloud of witnesses and the realities of, of, you know,
I didn't see into heaven, but the cloud of witnesses that were there with me in that
situation, there was still the most peace. I was describing it to my wife. I was like,
it was, you know, what I'd felt was the deepest peace I've ever felt in my life. Now another
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time that I'd felt similar peace was going to Mother Teresa's tomb in Calcutta, you
know, where it was the most peaceful place and her quotes were on the wall. But that
peace is the shalom of Christ Jesus. So Christians have that peace. And so I just want to like
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share the hope of Christ Jesus and let Christians know, hey, fear not now. You're going to be
rewarded. You will enter into heaven, but it's not about getting us dying and going
to heaven. It's about bringing heaven to earth. Heaven will combine heaven, that plane of
reality, that existence, the heavenly abode of God is brought to this earth as this earth
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is renewed. When I was younger, I thought it was going to be like nuclear war, this
planet, boom, you know, like star wars, the whole planet explodes, but it's not this earth
is renewed like gold refined enough fire. It's impurities are taken out and it's renewed,
made new, restored to the original God's intention from the Garden of Eden worldwide. So that
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shows me even now, our task is to bring heaven to earth and heaven into us because Christ
Jesus is in our hearts, in our spirits, our spirits are saved. And then we are the carriers
of the arc of the covenant. We are the carriers of the presence everywhere we go. And we bring
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heaven to earth, which is why we need to see healing signs, wonders, miracles everywhere
we go, salvations everywhere we go. But that's not the focus. The focus as your podcast is
named is to reveal Jesus.
So good. And you know, it's so interesting what's coming up in my heart right now is
that the majority of Jesus's ministry, two thirds of his ministry, the Bible says he
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went about doing good, healing all who are oppressed of the devil for God was with him.
And so, you know, what causes repentance? What causes people to change their mind about
God? It's God's goodness, God's favor, God's mercy, God's kindness, God's undeserved healing,
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God's undeserved deliverance. And we have, we have to get back to preaching the new covenant
of grace because it's, it's the grace of God that we will sing forever for all eternity.
Purity is the lamb who was slain. It's the covenant of grace engraved on the hands of
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Jesus Christ that stand. It's the open hand of grace nailed that stands for all eternity.
And that's what we worship the lamb of God in the midst of the throne who was slain.
And oh my goodness, where are the preachers and the teachers proclaiming this? Where are
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they? I'm one, but I know of a few other voices, but the Bible says that in the last days,
yes, there will be signs and wonders, but it will also be filled with the glory of the
knowledge of the son of God. Oh my gosh. Oh, can you imagine Jared? You know, I've been
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preaching about this revival of God's goodness, of God's mercy, God's glory, God's all of
these beautiful things for four years, four years, Jared. And I'm telling you earlier
this year, this wave of God's goodness that I'd only seen in the spirit is, is crashing.
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Every time I close my eyes, it's upon me every time, every time. And he is wanting to be
good to people while he still can. He is wanting to snatch people from the fire while he still
can. And you see, as the prophetic, we should be pointing to him because the Holy spirit
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always points to Jesus. The Holy spirit never comes to glorify a man or a woman. He only
comes to glorify Jesus. And so when we preach and we teach about Jesus, the Holy spirit
loves to just invade the space so that, that, that, that he's testifying, he's witnessing
that this person is truly a servant of God. And that's how we can discern the pure prophetic
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from the mixture, from the judgment. He lightened me up today.
Amen. Well, you mentioned grace and I'd heard it said that grace, and this is like a deep
theological profound term that grace is getting what you don't deserve.
Oh, a hundred percent. But I think, I think that's important. I don't think that that's
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the full thing because when we're outside of Christ, we receive his grace. We don't
deserve it, but we receive his grace. But now in Christ, he's given us more than we
deserve. He's given us the riches, the treasures, the, the, the profound intimacy with Christ
Jesus. So now that we're in Christ, yes, we are saved by grace through faith, not by works,
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right? We're saved by grace, but now in Christ, because it's Christ in us, we deserve, we,
he were given the abundance of heaven and then mercy is not getting what you deserve.
Right? We, we need the grace and we need the mercy. Right? So we've, maybe we've done horrible
things, horrible sins, but now, you know, we deserved a punishment, but because of Christ
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Jesus, he gave us grace. He gave us mercy. And then that overflow from him flows out
of us. And everywhere we go, we pour out his grace. We poured out his mercy and people
start coming up to us and asking us questions and sharing their dreams and asking questions.
Like, what is this hope in you? What do I see in you? You know, like for me, I, you
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know, there, there are people that I could look in their eyes and I learned this in India
when I was 18 years old, look into people's eyes. You could see what their faith is. You
could see who's they are and who they are. You see Christ in them, the hope of glory.
And then everywhere we go, the abundance, the overflow pours out of us and people, people
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start flocking to it. And we, we, you know, I've been, I was talking to a friend of mine
for coffee this morning. And so I'm on my second cup, but I was talking to my friend
for coffee today and it's just like, you know, yeah, I want revival. I want awakening. I
want it all, but it has to flow out of the churches. It has to flow out of the four walls.
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Now church buildings are only a 2000 year old concept. Revival and awakening is taking
place everywhere we go. It takes place in our homes. Okay. With our kids, with our family,
that's the first place it's supposed to take place is in our homes, in our boat. But then
it flows out in the grocery stores. It flows out when we're driving. Okay. You know, because
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there's been so we're talking about from the conversation about how churches had revival,
but the neighbors just thought it was a bunch of people parking there. It's revival. It
should flow out to the neighbors. It should flow out to your Jerusalem. Acts one eight,
your Jerusalem. It should flow out to your Judea. It should flow out to your Samaria.
It should flow out to the ends of the earth. And that's one of the things like for me,
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it's like, I'm here in Arizona. I need something that reaches my Jerusalem right now. I'm reaching
the Judea and Samaria. I'm reaching the outermost parts of the earth, but what am I doing locally?
So that's also another thing that I'm strategizing about, but that's revival on awakening needs
to flow out everywhere we go. And as I said, you know, hopefully I'm not messing people's
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theology up, go to church. Okay. Go to church, go to the one that your family loves, enjoys,
and that Jesus is glorified that preaches the Bible, that stands on the word of God,
the truth of God, but also be prepared if there is no church walls, be prepared because
there are millions of Christians in other countries still meeting in caves, still sneaking
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around to go pray together for five hours a day before they go to work, still being persecuted.
And we've got it easy here and we promote revival and you and I, you and I do conferences.
We do seminars, we do webinars, we do all that, but I'm very careful with the word
revival. It's like, okay, is this a one day revival or is this a Jesus revival that's
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going to change and transform lives and grow and, you know, just explode and expand and,
you know, be a sovereign move of God. I don't want to put my stamp of approval on what God
has already put his stamp of approval on.
You know, and it's so interesting. I think the true mark of living in revival is often,
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are we stewarding that personal revival for us? I know for me, when the Spirit of God
showed up in my bedroom, it lit my life on fire and he's never left. And I just want
to say this is that we are designed to live in that constant flowing grace. And Jared,
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I prefer to look at the new covenant like this. It's all grace. It's all grace. Yes,
I was saved by grace, but guess what, Jared? I'm healed by grace. Guess what? I have favor
because of grace. Guess what? I have deliverance because of grace. Guess what? Everything I
touch prospers because of grace, because it was not of my own doing. I deserved none
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of it. And yet I got all of it because of the doing of one and his name is Jesus Christ.
And so that's how I prefer to look at it. And you know, that that's a safe place. That's
a safe place. Understanding that makes you safe for promotion because you know what,
when God puts you in front of those people, you know that you don't deserve to be there,
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Jared, but he has put you there because he is so favored you because you've so looked
to him and not yourself, you know, and it's now him that's flowing through you because
when we look to him, he's blowing and he makes us radiant. And you're right. People look
at us and they're like, oh my gosh, you're glowing from the inside out. Well, guess what?
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That's because it's Jesus, you know, and it's no longer us. And you know, the more that
we live in that personal revival, stretching ourselves out across that out, that that altar
every day where his devoted ones, devoted ones, you know, the Lord said to me yesterday,
there's a difference in following and being devoted, devoted stretches out across the
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altar even when it's not going well, devoted stretches out and bows down when they persecute
you devoted stretches out when, when he says go and you don't want to go and you, you,
you don't understand how you're going to go or what you're going to do or what you're
going to say. Devoted goes anyway. And that's the difference between being a devoted follower
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of Jesus and simply someone who was following an Instagram profile because it spoke of a
word that tickled their ears and they thought sounded good in the moment, but they had no
substance of the word of God. If you understand that what these people were saying was erroneous,
that's the difference. It's the fruit to the fruit. You know, is there good fruit? Is this
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glorifying Christ Jesus? Is this revealing the character and nature and will and word
of God? Like I've got some acronym out there about the W's, you know, the word, the will,
the ways of God is this revealing? Is this revealing Jesus? And some of it, some of it
right now isn't, but yeah, Jesus have your way. Yeah, that's, that's all I can say. You
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know, I've been asking so many questions. You know, we've got some people who need some,
some prayer. And so I see his name is Steven. Let's pray for Steven, Jared, before we go.
And then if you would pray for all the people who are going to listen to this later, let's
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pray for Steven and then let's close it out. Okay.
Steven, Steven, Steven. I think I've, I don't think I've personally met Steven before, but
Holy Spirit touched Steven right now in Jesus name. We agree with him. Jesus heal his lungs
from asthmatic, C O P D and the right knee pain in Jesus name. You love Steven. May your
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healing virtue pour into Steven. Lord, we command his body. Our bodies were made from
the dust to the earth and we could command the earth. We have dominion over the earth.
So we command knee pain gone in Jesus name. Yeah. May Steven also breathe the breath of
life. We pray against this asthmatic C O P D in Jesus name, pour out your spirit upon
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Steven. May he breathe the new breath of life. You breathed into Adam's nostrils in the garden
of Eden, breathe into Steven's nostrils may flow into his lungs in Jesus mighty name.
Amen. Now I even pray just for like a rest or a new lungs. Okay. New lungs, new lungs
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in Jesus name. Yeah. Oh, by faith we appropriate that. So give him new lungs, man. I'm healed
and whole in Jesus name. Jesus name. Yeah. Father, I just, I just see your healing anointing
flowing right now. And father, I just release it into Steven father. I command even the
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tissue in his lungs to just be rejuvenated now in Jesus name. And I speak a Shalom peace
to his immune system. Father, I thank you that it will no longer attack erroneous substances.
Father, I thank you for a Shalom peace. And if there are any issues that have created
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this, any stress, any emotional things, God that have created this, I command healing
to his soul now in Jesus name. And what I'm seeing right now in the spirit is a DNA structure.
So Lord, if there's any missing column, but anything missing in that DNA molecule in that
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DNA structure, we command all those synapses, all that stuff. And she, you know, Jesus,
you know, the scientific terms. I don't command the healing and the DNA, anything that was
inherited. Jesus name, we command it gone and Jesus. So bring healing to the DNA structure.
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And I also, you know, I've seen this before that in our DNA structure is the name of Yahweh.
Yeah. Personal name of Christ. So, you know, Steven, you knew him before the foundation
of the earth. So bring forth healing in that DNA. We claim to be near Jesus in Jesus name.
Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. And God, I just thank you for just awakening those dead parts of
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his lungs. Ooh. Yeah. Father, I thank you for just deep breaths, just awakening, awakening
the tissue to breathe deep. Yahweh. Yeah. Thank you, Lord. Yeah. Thank you, Lord.
I'd like to say, if you don't mind, Christina, I'd like to say if anybody doesn't have a
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relationship with Jesus, call out to him personally, right now, say Jesus, your Lord, turn away
from your sins. Tell him that you're sorry. Tell him to repent of your sins and commit
yourself wholeheartedly to Christ Jesus and start talking to him. You confess with your
mouth Jesus is Lord, believe in your heart. God raised him from the dead. You are saved,
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secure, you're safe in him and then ask for Holy Spirit to fill you up and give you more
and more of Christ Jesus to reveal the word of Christ Jesus to you, to plug you into a
great community of believers and to have as much of the Holy Spirit in your life as possible
in Jesus name. Whether you're watching this from, I know David Raj from India, talked
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to him quite a few times. So if you're watching this from India, Brazil, whatever other places
are you listening into this on the audio podcast platform of revealing Jesus, give your life
to Jesus or ask the Holy Spirit to fill you up and reveal Christ to you.
Amen. So good. So good, my friend. Thank you so much for being here with me today. This
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was so fun. I was about to say fun too. Yeah, it's a lot of fun. It's always fun when we
get together and we have spirit-filled friends because it's like we have this communion together,
this deep connection, even though I haven't known you very long and we've maybe only had
five conversations, but that's just the beauty of the kingdom and the beauty of Christ within
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you, Christ within me and the Holy Spirit around us.
Well, we should do a conference revealing Jesus Holy Spirit fest or something.
I love it. I'm down for it. I'm down for it. And healing too, because I feel like we need
that. Yeah.
Of course.
Healing prophetic, revealing Jesus.
And miracles.
Yes, and discernment and Bible literacy. I have no idea what I'm going to call this episode.
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Just putting that out there.
Just shooting the breeze with Jared and Christina.
Oh, good. Well, thank you so much for tuning into this week's episode of revealing Jesus
with Christina Perera. I will have links from today's show notes where you can connect with
us and our special guest, Jared Laskey of Adventures in the Spirit. Until next week,
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may grace and peace be multiplied to you in the knowledge of Jesus. God bless.
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