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June 24, 2025 41 mins
Ever feel like you don’t know how to help a friend who’s clearly not okay? In this raw and ridiculous episode, Law Smith and Eric Readinger discuss Simon Sinek's concept of "just 8 minutes" — and how it might be enough to help someone feel less alone.
ROI #487 is a caffeine-fueled ramble through fence building, family dynamics, empathy vs. sympathy, and the reality of adult friendships. Expect real talk, wild tangents, and a dose of actionable insights on why checking in (even briefly) can have huge impact.
No fluff. Just ROI: where comedy and business collide like a stubborn post hole digger.
ROI Podcast™ Ep. 487 — A business-meets-comedy look at helping people without burning out yourself.
Law Smith and Eric Readinger get real about:
  • The underrated impact of an 8-minute call
  • How to audit your relationships and set boundaries
  • Why multitasking is nonsense (and what to do instead)
  • Energy vampires and other real-life struggles
  • mental health podcast, ROI Podcast, Simon Sinek, friendship tips, business podcast with humor, personal development, emotional intelligence, men and empathy
 
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Eric Readinger (00:04):
I think I fixed it. I forgot this.

Law Smith (00:12):
You fixed it.

Unknown (00:15):
I think I fixed it. You don't remember the hard out.

Law Smith (00:18):
I know you got it. Some guy emailed you.

Unknown (00:20):
No, that's not I didn't take his shit.

Law Smith (00:24):
Stolen Valor. Nah,

Eric Readinger (00:29):
whatever his name is, body. I hate this arm,
by the way.

Unknown (00:36):
Why
nothing makes it better.

Law Smith (00:41):
Simple job. You gotta do it at the base one. So goes
back a little
bit that one. Yeah, that onedoesn't go back any
further. Well, that's cuz thisstellar way to start.

Unknown (01:00):
You think I do that before
we start,

Law Smith (01:03):
we've spent 20 minutes putting this cool frame
on the video. Really good, thecool ROI frame, if anybody wants
to tell a friend, family, lovedone, about this show, we are the
number one. Business meetscomedy podcast. Comedy meets
business, whatever,entrepreneurship with dick

(01:23):
jokes, real, raw talk. Oh,you're bringing

Unknown (01:25):
back all the greatest hits. I see I gotta give

Law Smith (01:27):
a hottie, yeah. But or re ending, that's our outro.
Doesn't mean I can't use it. Areif you are listening to this in
your ear holes right now, whydon't you hook up a little
review, little subscribe.

Eric Readinger (01:48):
If you're listening to it through any
other rules, tell us about thattoo. Yeah, that's medically
incredible.

Law Smith (01:54):
Can you listen to things through your butthole? I
feel like a lot of people overmy life have told me what things
that you wouldn't think could goup your ass can and
you can absorb it, but chuggingmaybe well our
boy that we used to work withthat said he does coffee
animals. Oh, my God, I forgotabout that. I know you did. I

(02:17):
think about it every day. God,and just how we kept our
composure when he was tellingthat,

Eric Readinger (02:22):
I think that was a secondhand story for me
personally from,

Law Smith (02:27):
you know, you talked to him first, and then I asked
him, oh right, Julie, Oh right.I guess that out, yeah.
So serious about it. Look. It'sone of those things where he
may, he may listen to this show,I don't know. You know, he's
that kind of, he's very sincereguy, yeah, and he's very much

(02:51):
into alternative methods ofhealth and wellness and all
that. And he was really, reallygoing hard in the paint on
coffee enema. Yeah, how great itis for you.

Eric Readinger (03:04):
I'm still not sure that he doesn't have some
kind of gold mine. He said,like, I'm not so sure if he
doesn't fit, like, it could belegit. Honestly. I think, from
what I'm recently, if you wantto go get one, we can not the
coffee enemas. Oh, the otherstuff, I was gonna say the
actual business part

Law Smith (03:22):
of it, I would, I would film that we can get a
modesty curtain. You know,

Eric Readinger (03:29):
I thought we were gonna do that for our

Law Smith (03:30):
like, giving birth,

Eric Readinger (03:32):
to get the bubble fingering. What's that?
Proctologist exam,

Law Smith (03:36):
um, I asked my doctor last week. Said, I don't need to
get it.

Eric Readinger (03:40):
Yes, you do, if you're, if I'm doing it, you
have to do it

Law Smith (03:44):
that you just sound like you're,

Unknown (03:47):
we can do it right here. I

Law Smith (03:49):
know a guy. I don't like your digits very much.

Eric Readinger (03:52):
Not me. Am I gonna do? You know? I want

Law Smith (03:55):
a slender finger. Asian lady, you know? Yeah, I
want Sophie Cunningham from theIndiana Fever really long what?
Long fingers. She's the blondechick that backs up. She's,
they're good one, CaitlinClark's goon. Why do you know
this? Because she's, they putout a lot of hot pics of her out

(04:18):
online. Well, you're saying, atleast we want to fight you a
little. What the WNBA, it's soawesome. I told you, my mom is
the biggest Caitlin Clark fan.Watches every game, and now I
get stuff residually. But thelast I

Eric Readinger (04:33):
mean, I've seen some clips, man, they give her a
hard time. That's for sure,dude,

Law Smith (04:38):
I you have to look at clips that hurt Iowa just going
against dudes. She's reallygood. Yeah, no, no. Like,
there's every WNBA player,really, I could probably hang
with this one, you know, buther, she's really good. Oh,

Eric Readinger (04:53):
I do. You would not beat one WNBA player, and
neither would I. Well,

Law Smith (04:58):
I'm just thinking, like, brute force. You could
just. Post up and just this ass.Look, there, is

Eric Readinger (05:04):
there as big as we are, though, I know, but they
don't have the, they don't havethat leg power. They probably
have more leg power than I got.I look, maybe not you, but like,
still, yeah, you don't have, youdon't have the touch to make up
for it. I'm sorry, yeah, sorry,

Law Smith (05:19):
I could, I could do it. It's like, Big J O gerson's
bit about having two female copscome up, like, what are you
gonna do? You're just there tocall other cops. Yeah,

Eric Readinger (05:29):
yeah, I mean. But I think in basketball, where
it's not just about beating theshit out of them, you're gonna
lose I

Law Smith (05:37):
could pretty bad. Okay, that that does. I was
thinking about this a lot thisweekend, a clip we put out
there. I did get a lot ofpersonal kind of feedback on
about, you know, how we saidthere is a thing going on with
women of our generation. You're41 I'm 40, you know, give or

(06:00):
take a couple years plus orminus from our age, there's a
thing where there's a lot of,like, built up rage within a lot
of chicks. And we were talkingabout, there's a message, you
know, all through their lifegrowing up, that they can do it
all and and be that SarahJessica Parker movie, yeah,
they're the wife, they're themom. They have an awesome house,

(06:24):
like, kept up, you know? Theyhave a career, right? And they
work

Eric Readinger (06:29):
out. I just saw it on Instagram.

Law Smith (06:31):
They keep it tiles. Would you see? Oh, they, you
said them,

Eric Readinger (06:36):
okay, being a girl, yeah, they're good cook.
Here's my day, and then it'slike, 4am wake up, start doing
meal planning or whateverbullshit. And then it's like,
okay, well, that's, yeah, youdon't show the in between parts.
That's 1% of 1% of maybe 1%right? You know, you don't show
all the time it takes you toplan out these shots. It's like

(06:56):
multi camera

Law Smith (06:57):
to me. It's almost like a pipe dream, like
multitasking. There's only arare few that can actually
multitask. Yeah, what does

Eric Readinger (07:03):
that even mean? It's like, the guy who plays the
one man band, who's, like, withthe trombone and the freaking
harmonica. I know

Law Smith (07:11):
what you're talking about. He's got a big bassoon
and, like,

Eric Readinger (07:14):
yeah, exactly, smashes his knee together for
symbols. Yeah, that's,

Law Smith (07:19):
that's how I feel about Prince. When people tell
me, Prince is the like, well, hecould play, he plays every
instrument I'm like, not at thesame time. Yeah, he's over.
Apparently

Eric Readinger (07:28):
he's a great basketball player too. He might
actually be able to beat a WNBAnow,

Law Smith (07:32):
he's slippery. I would have trouble with him. I
could. I'm good defense, but I'mlike Bruce Bowen on the pickup
course, because that's whatevery, every friend, wants to
play with, is play against, man,you're matching up on me. I
gotta you're gonna play D I'mlike, yeah, that's all I got.
Yeah, I'm gonna steal, I'm gonnaboard, I'm gonna dish it back,

(07:55):
maybe hit occasional three likeDan Marley. Maybe you sure about
that by Dan Marley. I mean DanCortez and rock and jock there,
MTV. There it is, 50 pointer.But so I got a lot of feedback
directly to me right about

Eric Readinger (08:12):
that, from men or women. All women, okay, it's

Law Smith (08:15):
got a split which is kind of interesting. That means
it's kind of a good topic in it.Like hypotheticals, if you throw
it out there, you're at dinner,and you throw something out
there, like, would you ratherhave balls for ears or dick for
nose or a sweaty taint, fattaint for a chin? You know that

Eric Readinger (08:33):
good new wrinkle you've thrown in there? Oh, I
haven't told you that one? No, Ithrew in a third one couple
years ago. I'm trying to thinkabout how that would work. But
if

Law Smith (08:41):
you ever see me on stage doing stand up and I throw
that out there, that means Ican't remember any topics to
bring up that or Corolla has agood wine. Would you rather bang
a seven or a threesome with atotal of 11? It can be an eight
and a three could be a 10 and aone. Oh, I don't know. You don't

(09:05):
know that's a tough one. That'spretty good. Just then you
whatever. You try to make iteven. You try to figure out that
hypothetical make it even. So ifyou say the seven, you go, what
about

Eric Readinger (09:16):
12? Yeah. I mean, you're a bookie. You're
laying lines, right? So you're

Law Smith (09:19):
trying to find that that middle ground. So I like
that. It kind of got thatresponse. But it's funny, like

Eric Readinger (09:26):
I had to be, what did the angry one say? The

Law Smith (09:29):
angry ones thought we were misogynistic. And I was
like, I don't think you heardthe whole thing,

Eric Readinger (09:33):
proving my point right? Now, what I'm being a
woman this time, talking to awoman. How do you not know what
I'm doing to think,

Law Smith (09:41):
Well, you got to do a real voice. You did your voice.
I know, but I'm being you. Oh,no, I have your voice. Yeah, you
gotta, you gotta sound like

Eric Readinger (09:50):
a marbles in my mouth. Um, you're too close. I
can't do you. I can't, but Ijust

Law Smith (09:56):
did, um, what? So I. I, I had to explain like, no,
no. To be able to have thisopinion, we have to have empathy
for women. To be able to getthere like you have to
understand the plight weunderstand women. It's a good
save. It's it's honest. Look, Ilook, you have an older sister.

(10:17):
I have two older sisters. Idon't have an older sister. Is
she younger? Yes, she is mindblown. Um, but you had a sister
that was close in age, right?Pretty close. Okay, look, we you
and I know women in a parkinggarage have to Wolverine claw
their keys when they're alone atnight, right? Like those things.

(10:37):
There's a lot of guys that don'tget that. That's a, that's an
empathy kind of line, right?Yes, so my point is, like that
we weren't being misogynistic.It's really compassion, is
really the end of that. It'sempathy to go, whoa. I see this
as an issue, and then compassionto go, that sucks for them.

(10:59):
Yeah,

Eric Readinger (10:59):
okay, I see what you're talking about, right?
Empathy, empathy, then sympathy.They're getting him hammered
with it all the time, right? Andit's just like, that's not,

Unknown (11:09):
but it is fun to see how, leaving it how,

Law Smith (11:12):
like, it's like, probably four people personally
hit me up on either side ofthis, right? You know, a DM or
in person or whatever, right?And I'm like, wow, that's really
interesting, that you can thiscrowd sees it this way. This
crowd sees it this way, right?And it's

Eric Readinger (11:28):
really just a flip side, man, our age, oh, we
don't communicate. Well, we're,yeah, we just have to be tired.
We don't, we don't get anypushback on, you know, we have
to be great fathers and coachthe baseball team and all these
things, and have a job andprovide and all the things that
old school men had to do. Alsothat, yeah, Don't be a pussy.

(11:50):
But also, like, talk to me aboutyour feelings, right? Okay,

Law Smith (11:53):
well, the big one is, know what you're thinking. I
don't. I've never. I have to,like, disclaimer, every woman
I've dated, I go, I'm prettylike, I can catch behavior over
time, but not in the moment. Andso you're gonna have to be
explicitly telling me how you'refeeling, or I'm not gonna get it

(12:14):
right. Or like, joke. I say, I'ma mentalist. That's a joke,
yeah,

Eric Readinger (12:18):
having the first half of the conversation in your
head, and then finishing thethought out loud, and then
expecting you to know what thebeginning part was. Well,

Law Smith (12:28):
when they do the it's fine, I'm fine. You're like, are
you okay? I'm fine, I'm fine.It's right. And you're like,
doesn't seem like you're finethe way you're saying it, yeah,
body language. You expect me tobelieve that, and then you get,
like, a stare because you'rekind of being sarcastic, right?
I don't think it's funny oryou're I don't know other way to

(12:51):
be, because it's like, let's puta little levity into whatever's

Eric Readinger (12:53):
going on. Yeah? You think it would work more
often? Well, women like a guywith a sense of humor, right?
You got to be funny too, but notat inappropriate times. I'd say
every third dating

Law Smith (13:03):
profile I've read has that on there, and I'm like, No,
or the people just like badcomedy, I don't know. Yeah,
exactly.

Eric Readinger (13:13):
He's always doing those movie lines at the
right moment

Law Smith (13:16):
here, here's what I'll say, being funny. Here was
the thought I was getting to wasmen are stronger, and that, you
kind of, we kind of got here bythe WNBA conversation, brute
force. Yes, yeah, not forced. Wedon't plan, really, you and I
definitely don't prep togetherbefore the show. I might write a

(13:36):
couple things down beforehand,but that's about it, that men
are stronger, women are tougher.And I'll make the case for
women. If you want

Unknown (13:50):
what giving birth that that's got. If

Law Smith (13:53):
this was Steve Harvey, let me see, yeah, oh
Lord, let me let me see givingbirth, that'd be Number One
Family Feud. Show me Bert.Number two would be Aunt Flo.

Eric Readinger (14:08):
Okay, well, I'm not arguing it, no, no, but I
think individually, it's hard tosay, it's hard to say.

Law Smith (14:17):
I mean, I've, I've heard this from a lot of female
person if, if men had to dealwith what women deal dealt with,
a lot of shit would bedifferent. There'd be there'd be
abortion drive throughs, there'dbe like, you know, that kind of
line. So you got those two andthen I think the dynamics, and
this is painting with broadstrokes. Obviously, men have the

(14:39):
physical advantage inrelationship. Women have to have
to do mind games. I'm almost onthe other side of this where
you're like, oh, they have to dothe psychology behind a lot of
stuff, a little bit, to havesome

Eric Readinger (14:52):
kind of in regards to their interactions
with a man. Because

Law Smith (14:54):
think about it all right. Let's look at it like
this way, like if there's a guythat is. Stronger and is
psychologically better at thatstuff, kind of like fucking
around a little bit. You know, Idon't know what you want to call
it, for sure, mind games,manipulating, not manipulating,
but like, sure. Okay, thank you.Maybe we've dealt with it so

(15:17):
long that it's just, I thinkit's standard, right, exactly,
but it's one of those thingswhere we're, like, if that's a
relationship with a girl has isweaker in both. That is weird.
That's like, almost old schoolish, like, you know, control
issue kind of thing, right? Verybrute.

Eric Readinger (15:37):
What about one where the woman is stronger, but
the man's a better manipulator,and he uses her to go out and do
his D

Law Smith (15:43):
so, like, like, if we're watching Napoleon Dynamite
and the brother chip, right?Fonda,

Eric Readinger (15:50):
yeah, because she can la Fonda is like, China
from WWE,
or Starla, and then theysquandos crime sprees. Well,
yeah.

Law Smith (15:59):
So that that's the scenario too. That's that's
atypical, I would say, right,

Unknown (16:05):
Yes, I'm fine.

Law Smith (16:07):
So it's like I was just thinking about that a lot
over the last couple of days.For what reason, I don't know,
but I figured that was, like avery dumb guy's way of, kind of
breaking down some of thatstuff. Oh yeah, because I do
this to my daughter. I go, mybecause my daughter tries to
manipulate me already. And I go,man, I'm up here. I got you up

(16:27):
here. She goes, Don't point atyour head, because I've been
doing it since she was two. Igo, dad's pretty good at this
part. The academics. Not so notso good when you guys get on the
street, when you guys get tomiddle school, and it's not math
problems, I'm gonna strugglehelping, y'all. But

Eric Readinger (16:44):
what? When it is math problems, you're gonna help
there too.

Law Smith (16:46):
Math I can do. I can I can knock that. When you
looked at that middle schoolmath, brother, I did it the
other day, actually, I was like,I wonder if I could do algebra.
I just did some basic algebra.Yeah, I just wanted to see

Unknown (17:00):
if I could do algebra for fun. Well, lately, last

Law Smith (17:03):
few years, ti, 83 I have it. No, I don't need to do
sine or cosine or tangent. I

Unknown (17:10):
don't need to do drug wars, drug

Law Smith (17:12):
wars, or make boobies on there. No, it's one of those.
I just was like, there's a thingabout curiosity where I haven't
been seeing it through, and it'slike, why don't I just spend
five minutes see if I could dothis instead of, like, just
fucking around,

Eric Readinger (17:27):
be honest, Doom scrolling. Is that why your
computer's not here? You gotupset and you smashed it?

Law Smith (17:31):
No, I was doing I was running late, and I felt bad.
And then was like, computer

Eric Readinger (17:35):
smasher from algebra. That's what happened. I
wish

Law Smith (17:38):
I, like, almost every day I wonder, like, I want to
take it thing sucks. Bo Jacksonbow, break it like a wooden bat
over my knee, yeah, yeah, andthen go run into the forest and
live off,

Eric Readinger (17:51):
but not at where the lid clothes, like, across,
like, width wise, yeah, withwise, yeah, but not bullshit,
just in half, like, breaking acell phone. Oh, no,

Law Smith (18:00):
no. I would, yeah. I was thinking the first one.
Yeah. I didn't even think theother way with it, open,

Unknown (18:05):
good, yeah,

Law Smith (18:07):
no, so I don't know. I was just glad we covered that.
I was thinking about that Idon't want, I don't want to bury
the league because you got somehot fence talk, yeah? And if
anybody wants to ask a questionon this show, you can go to ROI
show.com hit us in the contactform or 813-755-1198, leave a

(18:28):
voicemail. Wait, what

Eric Readinger (18:30):
you got that? Where'd that come from? The
phone number, that's not yourphone number,

Law Smith (18:33):
is it? I have it? Yeah. You think I just gave out
a random number? No, but I mean,I own it, yes. Oh. Business
Line, show phone, show phone.Business Line, whatever it's the
tokaboga business. Ah, I had tochange it a while back because

(18:54):
those second line apps, theycreep up the price, like,
slowly, and then you're like,I'm paying $40 a month for this.
Oh, yeah. So I got rid of theold one. Um, good, yeah, the
fence, yeah. I didn't mean tobury it with all that, with all
that broad top topics, you know,

Eric Readinger (19:11):
yeah, yes. So Real, great, entertaining things
to come from the fence.

Law Smith (19:19):
Another thought, last thought I was telling my son we
were we were on a call it afamily reunion over the weekend,
and for all the gator footballplayers that played in the 1960s
so it's like there's only, like10 guys left, the guys that are
left. It's a sad matter everyyear. It's a sad game of Guess
who every year. And it's reallysetting in on everybody to the

(19:41):
point where people that wouldn'tsay anything out loud to me
about it now are saying stuffI'm friends with all the kids of
the other players I've beengoing to this every year since I
was a baby, and so it's coolthat we do this, but now it's
kind of just like, hey, whydon't we have a family reunion
with nine other family reunionsgoing. On, yeah, because that,
because it's all grandkids, theadult kids, it's pretty cool.

(20:06):
And so, what's it called? So myson and I,
I go trip, come with me. We'llgo get ready in the hotel room.
Let, let your sister go get herhair braided with the girls or
whatever. And then I was like,Look, man, I'm gonna tell you a
lesson that I you just gonnahave to deal with. You're gonna

(20:27):
have to wait on women. Yeah,you're just gonna have to, oh,
I, dude, I used to say thatevery day at school there's a
Brad Paisley song that pisses meoff. That's about this, because
we would,

Eric Readinger (20:38):
you know, you come to be or you go to the
locker room, two separate lockerrooms, yeah? And then when we
were ready to go out, we'd goout, and we would wait on them
girls a lot, right? And I'd be,I get used to it, right? Get
used to it. Might as well juststop bitching.

Law Smith (20:55):
Yeah, the the earlier I kind of was just like, I need
to figure out patience withthis. You know, it's just gonna
be part of my life. Yeah, as aman, right? I'll be ready. Oh,
they also get mad that if youwait 15 minutes before you all
have to leave and you're notready yet, and you just flop
everything on real quick, infive minutes.

Unknown (21:16):
Oh, yeah. Need to be together. That together?

Law Smith (21:21):
Well, I get her. I get I get if I'm at, if I'm
living with a woman and I'm withher, and it's that thing of
like, All right, ready to go inan hour, I might get ready and
just chill in whatever I'mwearing.

Eric Readinger (21:36):
Yeah, oh, I've, I've learned to enjoy that time
relaxation. You know, you'vedone everything you can. Yeah,

Law Smith (21:42):
I'll write all what, you know I used when pre
smartphone, I would sit with apen and a pad and just write, if
I had this spare 20 minutes,just to kill light a candle or
just do nothing, just

Eric Readinger (21:53):
stare at the wall quietly. That's nice
sometimes. So I

Law Smith (21:56):
thought that was, I was like, this actually is a
good piece of advice to my son,I'm like, the better you deal
with this, and just figure outwhat to do in these weird five
to 30 minutes that you'rewaiting a lot, yeah, the better
your life will be.

Eric Readinger (22:11):
Yeah, there's a lot of that going on, a lot of
lessons being taught.

Law Smith (22:15):
Now, he had one headphone on one ear and one off
like a DJ, and he just goes, Uhhuh. I go, you didn't hear
anything. I said, Did you backto multitasking?

Unknown (22:26):
Yeah, we can't do it. Yeah.

Law Smith (22:29):
Anyway, fence, fences, yeah. Look, you got a
post hole.

Unknown (22:36):
Digger, digger, yes. Dig.

Law Smith (22:40):
Why'd you re pronounce that? Reproduce that.

Eric Readinger (22:43):
Just wanted to make sure we got it. Mm, hmm.
You know what's my call it AItranscript. What do you want to
know? Man, it was exhausting. Ihad to dig out. This is the end
of a your one half long. It wasa month long Mexican standoff
with the neighbors, becauseapparently it was their fence on

(23:08):
my property that was taken downby the hurricanes

Law Smith (23:13):
nine months ago. Yes,

Eric Readinger (23:16):
so finally, bit the bullet and got the
materials, and two weeks later,I mean, it probably, it took two
weeks. That's, I

Law Smith (23:29):
go, that's great that you, you achieve. That's an
achievement. Yes, to me, thatthat's not praised enough. Like,
thank you. You pay off creditcard debt. That should be an
achievement. Yes, like,celebration, yes, a party. I
should have a fence party. Fuckyour birthday. Mine's in two
days. I could give a shit less.I know I don't care, though
that, but I don't give a fuck. Idon't want to do anything. Yeah,

(23:53):
41 who cares for a man? I thinkif you in on a zero, maybe a
five, even

Eric Readinger (23:57):
more ridiculous. You're like, you know, we're
basically like, you're 41 I'm40. You mean, you went out of
your way to

Law Smith (24:02):
say that today earlier? Yeah, I'm a young buck
and you're an old man two days.Okay, well, I'm was factually
right. Yeah, great. This is whywe couldn't be a good gay
couple, because we both have thepsych game going. Yeah, exactly.
We were both getting a hissy

Eric Readinger (24:21):
him. Why does he know what I'm thinking? Physical
fights. Oh, I forgot

Law Smith (24:26):
to tell you. I was down at our Ybor City, beautiful
Seventh Avenue, meeting up withpeople on a Saturday.

Unknown (24:35):
Right, right, stomping grounds. It's

Law Smith (24:37):
like our Bourbon Street or Sixth Street for
Austin. It's what it is forTampa, if anybody's out of the
area. And so I'm down theregoing to meet someone at a bar.
I'm wearing my my hoochie shortsthat I normally wear. Now, yep,
that's kind of your thing. Now,my ladies, my ladies Lulu Lemon
neon shorts. Oh, which gay guyshit on you? No, even better,

(24:58):
dude. So funny. And I was thewrong guy to do this too,
because I just walked throughit, this drunk guy in an Alabama
football shirt, of all things,probably six two, real skinny,
real wiry. He's getting help,propped up by his older gay
boyfriend, who looks likeCostanza and and they're he's

(25:19):
walking him out of this place,this bar, and he sees me walk
in, I'm looking for my friend.Like, was it? Look at this
faggot and his green shorts. AndI was like, Thank you.

Unknown (25:30):
Are you sure they were gay? If he's not gay, like he
had the was it a gay bar?

Law Smith (25:38):
Well, I got confirmation later, because the
people are waiting. They went toa different bar, so I had to go
over there, but they were there.We weren't at the gay bar, my
bad. I just had to stop by. Itwas a resume. It was the
reservoir usually pretty goodabout directions

Eric Readinger (25:51):
and wearing and wearing reservoir bar
accidentally went to the gaybar. It's not a gay bar, it's a
reservoir bar, any bar you'reat. I have look. I've said on
this program, many a

Law Smith (26:01):
time, I like going to gay bars because I get I like
getting whistled at. I like theattention. It's nice. Sometimes
I go on jog past gay bore city,so I get whistled at, okay,
yeah, I I just stand up comedyfor words of affirmation. Back,
yeah, I know that. I'm nostranger to any of that and

(26:21):
saying it on the show. I'm justsaying this guy had the lisp of
all stereotypical lists of a gayguy, and wearing an Alabama it
was threw me off a little bitafter I was like, That was
fucking weird. And he's like,Look at this fucking faggot.

Unknown (26:35):
So was it a wake up call at all, or go harder? I
said, George, no.

Law Smith (26:40):
I said, Thank you. Just kept walking. I didn't
stop. I go, ooh, I'm the wrongperson to do this too, because
he wanted a reaction out of me.Yeah. And then his boy, his
boyfriend, was, like, pullinghim out the door, yeah, as I was
he

Eric Readinger (26:51):
does it. It's crazy that how many even, like,
when I was at school and kidswould be like, coach, are you
gay? I'm like, Oh, this

Law Smith (27:00):
kids at school, your students, yeah?

Eric Readinger (27:04):
Like, yeah, stand kind of gay. Sometimes I
don't really care. And it blewtheir mind that I didn't want to
fight them. Yeah, I'm like, Idon't care. Like, you could
think whatever well, like, fine

Law Smith (27:16):
coach. You gay, yeah. How many times do you think you
think he got asked that in

Unknown (27:24):
two years? 1010, probably,

Law Smith (27:26):
damn dude, the the the nuts on these kids to just
ask that to a fucking grown upat all? Yeah,

Eric Readinger (27:33):
well, I mean, I like to make it a safe space. I
guess it's not weird. It's not abad like, it's not an offensive
question. Well, it's not astaboo now, I guess, yeah,
because he kids at the schoolthat were openly gay, but you
said, like,

Law Smith (27:45):
the the kid that sounds pretty hood that was
asking you that didn't reallycare that his buddy was gay,
right? Does gay stuff orwhatever he said, Whatever he
just said, yeah, yeah. That'skind of open minded in

Eric Readinger (27:57):
a weird way, right? I know it's weird. It's
like using the N word, how muchI heard the N word, and you love
that word. And no, not so much.Post hole diggers, yes, you
know. But anyway, I'd hear itout of children of all races,
and it wasn't ever like a thing.Like, what did you just say?

(28:18):
Now, if I hear a hard R, that'sdifferent, you know, yeah. But
like, why is that

Law Smith (28:23):
different? It just is. Well, I mean, the N word is
power ranking of like, the theworst one I'd say, right, that's
the worst word to say, right? Ifyou're not at all, if you're not

Eric Readinger (28:35):
black with a hard R, yeah, you know. But
like,

Law Smith (28:39):
or Puerto Ricans kind of slide in there. Sometimes
they get to say it. Sometimes,

Eric Readinger (28:43):
yeah, but that's what I'm saying. It's like kids
of all races were who say it,and it was never a problem. But
not Whitey, Whitey kids, whitekids would say it too. Hm, never
even, like, nobody, a or, er,that's what are you paying
attention I heard, er, but if Ihear a hard R, then I'm like,
Whoa. What was that? You know,like, okay, but like, even
there, it was always an a, not ahard R.

Law Smith (29:06):
Well, I've always had that thing from my black friends
that are like, yeah, would yousay it in the car when you're
rapping? And I go, I just skipit, or I say Nougat, or Ninja, I
replace it on my own, yeah,because that one's the I've seen
more drama over that one thanany of the other ones.

Eric Readinger (29:27):
Well, yeah, because, I mean, it's when
there's drama surrounding it.It's used in a certain way.

Law Smith (29:33):
Look, I got friends from deep Alabama that would
stub their toe and say it right.You know exactly. It was an all
purpose. It was a utilityplayer. Word,

Eric Readinger (29:43):
yeah, there's, you know, everybody has their
own backstory as to what they'reusing. The word for lots of
people, it's not good,

Law Smith (29:50):
like Coach gay. Oh, my God. So anything about fit
building fences are tougher thanpeople think, because you want.
You hire someone to do it.Sometimes you go, the fuck,
1000s of dollars to do a woodenfence, right? Or a chain link
fence, and you're like, it'sfucking, it's tough. I've done
it

Eric Readinger (30:10):
once, yeah? Well, it was like, you know,
replacing an old fence. So I hadto dig up all the old posts that
were in concrete in the ground.You know, that was,

Law Smith (30:19):
that's a whole day, at least, oh, multiple days,
bro, like, just concrete,

Eric Readinger (30:23):
yeah. I mean, just trying to dig them up,
smashing them. I had a giant,you know, sledge hammer out
there to smash the things up,disposing of them, you know,
knocking the old fence down.Even, dude, the hardest part
putting a new one up is justhauling the fence panels, not
having. GG, my 67 year old momwas on the other side doing it,

(30:44):
and I was gassed. Don't die

Law Smith (30:47):
here. Yeah, when you're starting to do like, oh
man, if she, if she passes out,I'm really fucked.

Eric Readinger (30:53):
I don't have many more years of her hard
labor. But, well,

Law Smith (30:57):
it's also that thing of, like, at some point you're
like, why don't I have a fuckinglike, wheelbarrow or a wagon to
carry shit, or what are thosedollies, or whatever you're

Eric Readinger (31:05):
like, I have one or and we know we were gonna do,
but it wasn't the worst wasn'tfeasible. It's

Law Smith (31:11):
like the beach one that has the off road tires,
yeah, that you see the thefamily that has their shit
organized,

Eric Readinger (31:17):
yeah? And I don't think about until you see
it again the next time at thebeat right? Or

Law Smith (31:22):
like, and they have the tent that they can put back
in the fucking casing.

Unknown (31:28):
I've never got one of those. It's like, pop up, oh,
I'm

Law Smith (31:30):
talking about the four posts, like the four corner
ones that accordion outdiagonally. And it's like, I've
never been able to put thatthing in correctly the first
time I've put it, you know,like, tried to get the cover on
it, yeah? But same thing, like,you're like, I wish I had a
pickup truck, you know,

Eric Readinger (31:52):
yeah, they have new there. It's like a it's like
a wagon, I guess that turns intoseating

Law Smith (32:01):
for kids, no. For adults, no. It's cool. Is it a
wagoneer? It's

Unknown (32:06):
only 40 bucks
on the online. There's aFacebook

Law Smith (32:12):
ad on the online, but still get out of here.

Eric Readinger (32:16):
I don't think it was. It was like $200 now on
sale for 40

Law Smith (32:21):
don't buy any electronics or mechanical shit
on team. No, yeah,

Eric Readinger (32:27):
but yeah, those things are cool, but fences are
exhausting. Yes, having it allleveled out, got to make it
level. Yeah? That, yep, it willsay my mom was very abreast.
Without level, I had everything,

Law Smith (32:40):
dude. Chicks love level, yeah, even if it's your
mom, you're like, I gotta showyou how level this. Yes, I was,
it's so

Unknown (32:46):
level. Check this out. You

Law Smith (32:48):
want to level up, girl, yeah, I'm sure she was
impressed. I'm sure she wasn'tspaced out. Yeah,

Eric Readinger (32:56):
well, JP had come over also at one point
while I was still putting uppost. Yeah,

Law Smith (32:59):
you were doing this all pretty much solo, though,
yeah. And this was after he

Eric Readinger (33:04):
had borrowed the camera for the 900 time. And
yeah, I was, we don't have thatepisode, and he walked this
fall, and I said, Listen, I'mgonna level with you. Boom, no
response. He didn't get it. Iwas like, cuz I'm holding a
level. Well,

Law Smith (33:20):
the boy's never done a fence. He doesn't get

Unknown (33:24):
it. Fence puns broke, yeah, why
don't you post about it? I know.
Call me post mo law.

Law Smith (33:37):
What's your post up game? Like, I two things, and
then we'll get out of here.These are actual, real businessy
things. Oh, well, one's nobusinessy. Not one's from Simon
Sinek, so not that businessy.He's the Start With Why guy. And
he was talking about he had afriend that was in like, it was
really in the hole, and she keptreaching out to him, and she's

(34:01):
like, I called you. I called youand I need, I just needed you.
And he's like, I don't youdidn't call me. I didn't see
anything. And she's like, Yeah.And he goes, and he looks at his
text from her, it's bunch oftexts. It's like, here's what,
what's up? And basically thestory is she, she said, I tried
to call you. And he's like, whatyou texted, Hey, what's up? I

(34:21):
didn't know you're like, you'rereally in the dumps and
depressed and all this shit. Andthen he talks about this thing
that's kind of interesting.Talking to a friend for eight
minutes helps them feel notalone.
Yeah, that there's a study outthere about that. Like, I'm a,
I'm a my friends from collegethat I call still call me a girl

(34:43):
for calling them all the time,but I'm in the car that you're
good about that I'm in the caron the way to gigs I go. Should
I listen to a podcast or callit? Just randomly call people
and say, what's up? Right? Plus,it's more fun to do that anyway.
And so it's like. Think thateight minutes is really
interesting. When you talkabout, you know, how everyone's

(35:05):
kind of getting a little bitless. I think the since the
pandemic, it's that's still kindof carried where everybody's
kind of keeping themselves alittle bit more. And it's super
easy to do that, you know,

Eric Readinger (35:18):
yeah, that's good. I you know, I talked to
Henry not too long ago, a friend

Law Smith (35:25):
of the program, Henry Hall, wings, wealth, yeah, he
called me the other day. He's

Eric Readinger (35:29):
always one. I'm like, why don't we talk more?
Always makes you feel good aboutmyself.

Law Smith (35:33):
I called him on the reg for weeks and, like, just,
he actually sent a text andapologize that he disappeared,
right? That was on purpose forhim, though. But he's a, he
literally is a tree hugger, goodenergy guy. He was our mascot,

Unknown (35:50):
not literally. Yeah, he did.

Law Smith (35:54):
He told us about a time where he he did like he
has, but he's not all the time.I know, but it was just funny,
just knowing an actual guy thatjust hugged

Eric Readinger (36:02):
trees in my head, I was like, No, we have.
Then I was like, Oh, wait, he

Law Smith (36:05):
told yes, he has, yeah, he told us about doing
either DMT or acid, and thengoing around and being like,
there's energy and everything.There's mushrooms, maybe. And
that's what it was. Oh, I don't,I don't remember the story
exactly. I just remember beinglike, you know, I want to make
fun of it, but he's kind of, Ikind of believe a little bit of

(36:25):
that. I'm not going to go hug atree, but I like it, if it helps
him. Yeah. The other thing is,you know, Ray Dalio is now,
he was a CEO BridgewaterAssociates, and there's a thing
called the leverage principle. Iwon't get into it too much
because we don't have enoughtime, but it's something for

(36:46):
anybody listening to look up,and it's like, there's a lot of
principle. It's a leverageprinciple, how to get like he
was getting frustrated. We're inthis age gap right, where you
get sandwich. They call it thesandwich generation of your
life, or era of your life whereyou have kids, and then you're
going to start taking care ofyour parents kind of thing. And

(37:07):
the later in your 40s you are,that's when these are, like, the
money making years according tohis his kind of theorem, right?
Uh huh. And so you want tomaximize your time the best you
can, to maximize wealth as muchas you can. Okay? And so one
thing on this leverage principlethat I thought was interesting
was audit, you have to auditrelationships in your life. And

(37:30):
if they're not, if they're notenergizing you in any way or
like, it's a temporary thingthey're going through, you know,
put that aside. But like, ifit's something where they're
energy vampires, call itRobinson, you got to kind of
drop

Unknown (37:47):
them, this fucking

Law Smith (37:49):
guy. And we kind of do that naturally in a way, you
know, unconsciously,

Eric Readinger (37:56):
you'd be like, feel good about being like, All
right. Time for my monthlyfriend audit, who has energized
me

Law Smith (38:02):
recently, a relationship. Audit sounds
harsh, because the word audit,oh, just you associate with tax
free Scientology. Yeah, thattoo.

Eric Readinger (38:10):
But is this guy, Scientologist? What is
bridgewater associates? Anyways,

Law Smith (38:16):
it was the number one hedge fund company in the world
because of this, EFT, because ofthis and so he could get like
for what he used to spend onehour on, he would get 50 hours
of output after a while,
delegating out for people whoare better at this specialty,
you know, sounds like a robotperson. No, it just sounds like

(38:39):
a nerd. Oh, you know, what's thedifference? But it's also like a
relationship audit is ashorthand way to say it, but
really it's just sitting downand assessing your life and your
relationships in your life, andgoing, is this good for me?
Right? That's that one thing wewere talking about years ago,
the five people you hang outwith the most influence you. And

(39:01):
then they added to that, whichwas the five people they hang
out with the most or four,because you're probably one of
them, maybe is indirectlycontributing to you, yeah. And
so it's like one of those thingswhere, you know, and I think

Eric Readinger (39:19):
it's more of a natural, subconscious thing that
people do that I don't

Law Smith (39:24):
think you and I have this problem so much, but I
think there's a lot of peopleout there that can't NOT say yes
to whatever

Eric Readinger (39:32):
I people Yes, I know people like people
pleasers. Yeah, exactly. Ilearned a long time ago to just
not give a shit if they don't,you know, like, I'm sorry that
you're you're taking my energyall the time. I can't have that,
right? I just stop worryingabout it.

Law Smith (39:48):
Yeah, I don't like Coke energy around me, even if
they don't do coke, right? Idon't like you're up here too
much. I don't like lazy, becauseI can get down to that real
easy. I could. Yeah, I can bumwith the best of

Eric Readinger (40:01):
it like pretty much however I'm feeling at the
moment. Yeah,

Law Smith (40:04):
well, I, you know, I don't mirror, but I do get

Eric Readinger (40:08):
no, you are the mirror. You do that. You need to
be me. Well, you're you need tobe me. No, you're saying, No,
you're saying that. This iswhere I'm getting confused.

Law Smith (40:18):
No, no, well, no, we, we work well together. They
don't understand it. You'recalm, and I need to get calmer
sometimes. And I'm trying to,you know, get jacked up a little
bit more. Okay, yeah. And I knowyou do you want to do that
sometimes? Yes. So that kind ofworks. That's a good kind of

(40:38):
mutually beneficial thing. Butright? I'm saying, like, you've
had everybody's had someonethat's like, just a drain on
them, family members.

Eric Readinger (40:46):
I was gonna say it's almost always family
members. So you feel like youcan't just not do

Law Smith (40:51):
that for it. Yeah, I'm gonna tell my son, we're not
hanging out anymore. Like, bro,you energize me more. No, he
didn't even energize me anymore.I'm so proud of the boy. He did
the worm in front of 100 peoplethe other night. I was like,
that's like, God damn. What agood what a good boy, yeah, and
he watched the NBA finals withbeing haze me for going for the
Pacers.
I was like, You paper championfucks, yeah, Halbert wrecked his

(41:18):
heel, yeah? And I was like,that's the only reason

Unknown (41:20):
y'all won, yeah, I mean

Law Smith (41:24):
for the Lakers, I know, but if you're born in
Tampa, you could be agnosticBasketball wise,

Unknown (41:31):
yeah, toodaloo be a thunder fan.

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