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Unknown (00:00):
It's called sweat equity. Sweat
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you are listening to the sweatequity podcast, good
Eric Readinger (00:28):
to go randomly. Apparently it's all reading
gurus today, my kids decidedthey wanted to join in and be
producers, so I got both of themsitting here, you guys? Yeah,
clearly said you didn't want tobe on camera. Now they're about
to knock everything over tryingto get on camera. Are you trying
to say hi to your cousin?
Red Readinger (00:50):
That's awesome. Don't
Eric Readinger (00:51):
worry about background, no, looks great.
Looks great. Background, Nope,you're good. Looks great. Okay,
yeah, cool. Um, so we'll justget right into it. It's a very
special episode of a podcast.There's going to be changes to
the podcast. Nothing crazy. Lawis still alive, but there will
(01:14):
be some I don't want to say muchmore than that. I'm just teasing
it out. But what better way tokind of make a transition to do
a familial podcast. First thingI'd like to do, though, is a
lightning round questions. Idon't know if you got a chance
to listen to the podcast before,but we like to throw some some
(01:36):
things out there. Get a gagewhat what's going on? What time
do you wake up in the morning?
Red Readinger (01:42):
This morning, or every morning,
Eric Readinger (01:44):
every morning on on average. You know, 630
Red Readinger (01:48):
to seven this morning was about 530 just ready
to get going. Okay,
Eric Readinger (01:55):
so if you're putting on a movie that you want
a guaranteed laugh, What movieare you putting on?
Red Readinger (02:00):
Oh, man, anything. Adam Sandler, that's
going to be to the top, HappyGilmore or Billy Madison,
Eric Readinger (02:06):
okay, sounds about right? Checks out. That's
a writing. Great answer. Howabout a cry? Guaranteed cry
movie.
Red Readinger (02:15):
Fill the dreams comes to mind. Wow. You
Eric Readinger (02:18):
are related to us.
Red Readinger (02:22):
I don't know, slip us in Seattle. I mean, we
get a little romantic, okay,
Eric Readinger (02:29):
this guy, God, what do you think about him? Say
it again. God, what do you thinkabout God? Oh, boy,
Red Readinger (02:36):
oh, oh, well, I always say dog speed, baby. I
don't know. I think it'sdifferent for everyone. And for
me, it's, it's, it's nottraditional. If that makes
sense, your view is nottraditional, correct? My view of
(02:57):
God is not traditional. Okay?
Eric Readinger (02:59):
I'd say, I mean, you know, I could, I could kind
of agree with that for myself.Um, have you ever seen anything
supernatural, UFO, a ghost,anything cool?
Red Readinger (03:12):
Yeah, I haven't, personally, but a buddy of mine
who's like, one of my, one of mybesties, solid blue orb one
time, and I really am like, Holymackerel, yeah, yeah. So I'm
going with it with his answer onthat, yeah, wanting to believe
Eric Readinger (03:28):
it's yeah. Oh, it's happening more and more. I
mean, I pretty much made abranch off podcast just talking
about that stuff.
Red Readinger (03:33):
But, yeah, cool.
Eric Readinger (03:36):
So we're talking to Red redinger, who normally,
law gets lazy and makes theguests do the plugs, but your
family, so I'll do it for you,but we, I came across you on
LinkedIn. Our last name is notcommon at all. I was like, okay,
(03:56):
see what's up with this guy. Youknow, I saw you had, I had a
business, whatever reached out,connected. I was like, oh, you
know, want to go on the podcast.Is blind. Let's just, let's see
what happens. Like, if yourfamily, you'll be fine with it,
you know? So, yeah, it's been acouple delays now at this point,
but, you know, I will. I'm not ahuge fan. I don't know if you
(04:20):
got to listen to listen to theshow before, about the what
advice you would give your 13year old self? Question that we
do, I'd like to modify it whereyou're, like, on a trolley or
something somewhat slow, butyou're moving past your 13 year
old self. You got about five to10 seconds to kind of yell
something at your 13 year oldself. You got to kind of make it
(04:43):
stick. Knowing your 13 year oldself got to get their attention.
You don't get to tell them, It'syou, it's me from the future.
You don't get to do that, butyou get to tell yourself one
thing as you're rolling by. Whatwould that be?
Red Readinger (04:58):
Don't go with the flow. Oh, swim upstream. Do
something different. Be who youare. I mean, it's definitely
look deeper. Take the road lesstraveled. It's going to be all
in that same vein, that it'sbeing normal is overrated. I'd
(05:19):
say it's, yeah, you'll, you'llfind out that you, you're,
you're not like the others,eventually. So the sooner you
do, the better.
Eric Readinger (05:29):
It's very that that answer hits home. You know
it sounds familiar. So you knowwhat direction you want to go
in. Do you want to talk aboutPreen? Do you want to talk about
ultra marathons, because I couldget into that. But, you know,
I'd like to get you a little bitof a plug before we get too far
into the other fun stuff.
Red Readinger (05:49):
Yeah, I would love to to get my sister and
praying a shout out. I justbegan a role in the business
development, which actually ismorphed into the Director of
Client Services, which is alittle bit more, you know, hands
on, polished about, you know,current clients, and then also
(06:11):
future clients, prospectiveclients. We are a architecture
and design studio based in LAand we specialize in restaurants
slash bar slash interesting,creative spaces. We make
beautiful, immersive, one of akind, bespoke design. So it's
basically like anything inside aspot, to the exterior, but
(06:34):
really down to the furniture,the colors, the textures, the
lighting, just about everything.We were award winning
international yada yada, etc.That's awesome. Yeah, it's cool.
Eric Readinger (06:47):
I mean, Director of Client Services for
restaurant. I mean, that soundslike a badass job. I mean, it's,
is it, how are you doing fixingclient problems? Or do you get
to expense account? Woo theclients. Keep them happy on that
end, because that would beawesome for you. Yes,
Red Readinger (07:05):
a little of everything. Honestly, it's my
older sister's firm. She's beenthe the principal and founder
since 2005 and she's a creativeI'm went to school for finance
and economics. I've been insales for the last eight years.
So I My role is to reduce herstress and however that looks,
(07:29):
I'm the nice guy, the mean guy,whichever guy you need me to be
on that person. But overall, wewant what's best for our
clients. We want to makesomething awesome. We want to
see them in business for yearsand years and years, and that's
the big part of it, isatmosphere, experience and just
having a place that peoplereally want to go back to. So,
(07:50):
yeah, it's a little ofeverything. It's great. I love
to eat, yeah?
Eric Readinger (07:56):
I mean, it sounds like a real Yeah. I mean,
yeah, do you have any clientsthat are like, stand out that
you're really proud of?
Red Readinger (08:07):
Yeah? So actually, the oh shoot, I forgot
which publication just did this,but the best fast casual in
America is how and raise, andthat's their first one was in
Chinatown, LA, and it'sbasically Nashville chicken. So
it's like hot chickensandwiches. We did their second
(08:28):
one in Pasadena. And it's, it'sphenomenal. So, yeah, holidays,
it's cool, yeah, fast casualrestaurant. But it's, it is
fire. So if you ever get out toLA, holler at me.
Eric Readinger (08:39):
Oh, I got a feeling these kids are going to
make me take them out there,just for the number one fast
casual restaurant in America, inAmerica family kind of they're
over it. They're like, when canwe leave? So, yeah, I mean,
that's, that's really cool.That's an awesome job. Really
happy for you. But it was like,man, you know what? If it was
(09:01):
really boring, but that soundsawesome, you know, don't want to
have to drag it out of you,like, we do some guests, you
know. So, ultra marathons,
Unknown (09:12):
yeah,
Eric Readinger (09:14):
how did you, how did you get into that? I mean
that it sounds crazy. I I feelyou like I used to do, longest I
ever did was a half marathon,okay? And I was like, Yeah, I
get it, you know, sort of thing.And I was like, that's good for
me. But yeah, I want to hearabout that, that sort of
(09:37):
journey. What pay
Red Readinger (09:43):
attention Well, I mean, running is one of the most
boring things you can do, right?Like, there's not a ball to
chase, there's not, there's not,there's not anything so, right?
Personally, I hated runninglike, like, everybody that's a
instead. Be a kind of a commonstatement by runners is that
(10:03):
they never really liked runningoriginally, um, and I think what
brought it all together was, Iwas early 20s, and I have an
uncle who's run. He's now atlike, over 400 marathons. Holy
when I had he came to Texas torun the Dallas White Rock
(10:26):
marathon, way back when I'mlike, thinking about it and
literally being like, this guydid that. But he was in a group
called the 50 states marathonclub, with the intention to run
one marathon in every state. Andsomething about the travel
aspect, the goal, the mag like,yeah, it's point two miles, but
(10:47):
you're doing it times 50, andthen each time you're getting a
new location. I remember beingin elementary school and looking
at the map on the wall and beinglike, Man, I want to go to every
one of those states and just seewhat they're like, like, what's
the difference? Like, what iswhat's cool about Michigan, you
know? So fast forward to my mycollege days. I'm like, Man,
(11:10):
this 55 year old dude can dothis. I think I could do it, you
know. So he kind of like, madesomething so immense, and in
high level and next level reallyseemed to be achievable from
from my perspective. And then itwas that it was like, it was, it
was literally a self like dare,actually the literal dare from
(11:34):
my roommate to see if we coulddo the half marathon in our
hometown. And it was like, twoweeks in advance. And I was
like, Well, I Oh, nice, two
Eric Readinger (11:44):
weeks. Okay, were you running at all before
that? No, okay,
Red Readinger (11:51):
yeah, just be awesome, jumping fences. I think
I did two six mile runs beforethe my 30s.
Eric Readinger (12:00):
Yeah, I mean, yeah. So, you
Red Readinger (12:03):
know, kept a nine minute mile pace. I think I came
in right at two hours, dude. I
Eric Readinger (12:08):
mean, it's, we're not running at all. It's
awesome. I'm just trying
Red Readinger (12:11):
to hang on with everybody else there. You know
what? I mean, you're doinguntil, like, you you're hurting.
And I was definitely hurting,like, afterwards, that feeling
of after the finish of my first13 mile or half marathon and the
finish of my first 100 miler,the the pain were about the
same, really? No,
Eric Readinger (12:32):
I mean, you know, it is such a weird thing
because, you know, they've done,what's the guy, Dean, Dean
carnaz. Yeah, he's, uh, youknow, they looked at him and
they're like, you know, if hekeeps eating and drinking water,
like, effectively, he could runforever. Like, I don't know
about sleeping, uh, you know,that's who knows about the
(12:55):
sleeping part. But like, they'relike, physically, he should be
able to just go forever and hetries. I mean, you know, it
sounds like you're getting theretoo, but that's what's great.
Can you not audibly yawn at thepodcast? Please, come on. These
are,
Red Readinger (13:15):
don't yawn into the mic at least. I
Eric Readinger (13:17):
mean, I know the mics off. I could feel it,
though. Yeah, it's too old guystalk about running really far. I
get it all right. We
Red Readinger (13:26):
already admitted it's boring, yeah,
Eric Readinger (13:29):
I mean, but still, I want to know more about
it. So for one thing, the thegoal aspect, resonates for me
like that was always somethinglike, I always like to have that
goal in the future, you know,that's coming up. Prepare for
that in you know, that wasalways motivating for me. But to
(13:53):
get, you know, I'm gonna, Idon't want to fill in the story
for you, but you must have beenlike, okay, you know, do a
marathon in every state, youknow, what's next? What's the
step up from a marathon? How fardid you go? Yeah, that's
Red Readinger (14:07):
what's crazy. So I probably got five or six
marathons in, and then someonetold me about trail running, and
it's, it's different, you know,it's, yeah, on dirt, like it's
just anything that's not roadand, you know, that got me, I
actually should pause and say Iheard about the Hash House
Harriers, which is a beerdrinking running group, first
(14:29):
before I heard about trailsYeah, sounds pretty good. Make
the timeline correct, and I gotinto beer drinking and running
first before I got into trailrunning. But it's all, it's all
about the recovery process. Butanyway, the Yeah, it must have
been Yeah, six or seven, eightmonths before my, or I should
(14:51):
say, after my first marathon,before I was like, starting into
seeing how it would be to run ontrails. And then that's where
the ultras come in. Is theyusually have, like a marathon or
a 50k in trails, and that'susually the lowest distance, or
the shortest distance. And thenit's in addition to the 50k they
(15:13):
have a 50 mile or and, or 100kand, or 100 mile or happening
simultaneously. And you candecide which one you want to do.
So the first, first one that Irecollect was October of like,
2007 and it was called the PaloDuro. That is
Eric Readinger (15:30):
when I ran my first triathlon. Swear to God, I
was like, Don't say 2007 bro.And that's yes. Is that right?
What
Red Readinger (15:39):
year are you born? Eric, hold
Eric Readinger (15:40):
on a second. No, I'm sorry, that's not right.
That doesn't make sense. Okay, Iwas just looking for a
synchronicity. I was born in 83I'm 40,
Red Readinger (15:51):
same.
Eric Readinger (15:52):
Okay, all right, that's ours. We'll do the family
tree part after the runningpart. Okay, because I do want to
figure it out. I know. Okay, so,so wait you those were all those
distances you laid out just now.Those were all on trails.
Red Readinger (16:11):
Yeah. So those are that. I mean, it's just the
way that race organizations putit on. They're like, yo. We'll
have a shorter distance, a 50koption, will throw out a 50 mile
option, which is usually just asecond, third loop, right? So
then they already have these aidstations set up. And so it's
like, Yeah, bring your bringyour kids. They can do the 50k
(16:31):
while you're out there doing the50 mile, or, you know, whatever.
It's just so that they can, youknow, appease all distances and
all people. But that first onein Palo Duro, which is a state
park in the panhandle of Texas,um, our start was 630 and they
had a 50 mile or start at 6amand I'm like, shit. And it's
(16:53):
always this, like question. Imean, I think that's the biggest
thing about these distance racesor achieving anything, is asking
yourself, can I do this? Yeah,and so
Eric Readinger (17:03):
am I going to get lapped by the people who
started before
Red Readinger (17:06):
me? No kidding, and usually answered yes by the
front runner,
Eric Readinger (17:10):
or Yeah, or the people who yeah exactly the
people who started after you.They're like, catching up.
Red Readinger (17:14):
We call them FRBs. Uh. FRB is a front running
bastard, yeah, yeah,
Eric Readinger (17:23):
they're they're motivating. I'll give
Red Readinger (17:26):
profanity was allowed on this mic. Very much.
So, okay, yeah, sorry, it's yournah. He's
Eric Readinger (17:31):
fine. I'm sleeping now he's awake. Yeah,
yeah, he's
Red Readinger (17:35):
already gone. Anyway, yeah, that was my first.
My first attempt was a 50k andit went great. I mean, you're
out there and the sun's rising,and you're just like a kid, you
know, you're just out thereenjoying the day, and you gotta
watch out for rocks and rootsand and different things. And as
opposed to road race, whereyou're there's a mile marker
(17:57):
every mile, and it's flat, orit's, you know, it's just
smooth, and it's all aboutspeed. And I have my watch on
and I'm clicking off the miles,but on the trails, there's no
mile markers. You just before,you know it an hour, two hours
have just gone by, and you're atthe next aid station and you're,
they're handing you peanutbutter jellies or sandwiches or
(18:19):
giving you a coke. Like, thefood is much better in an ultra
okay, they give you chips,snacks, candy, like it's, it's
pretty funny. I mean, it's allabout, I mean, yeah, you can
pretty much eat whatever youwant, right? Calories? Yeah,
yeah, get it in and, and, to behonest, it's really not much
more rocket science than that.It was seeing the guys line up
(18:42):
at 6am and we still had 30minutes, never the 50 miler
start off, and I'm like, shit,you know? Why didn't I sign up
for that? It only took meprobably another month to find
another one that was going to bemy 50 miler. So cool, like it
escalated quickly, as they say,and, and it still has to be
(19:03):
honest, I ran my my furthestdistance at the beginning of
May, and that was a 250 milercalled the CoCo Donna.
Eric Readinger (19:11):
Oh, yeah, I was wondering how what's the
farthest you've gone
Red Readinger (19:14):
in Arizona? So that was in one and we call this
in one shot. You know what Imean? Like, yeah, they have
sleep stations along the way. Soyou can take a nap, you can take
it. You can take a five hour napif you want. You can take a 10
hour nap, depending on if youcan make the cut offs. So the
cut offs start to come intoplay, and so that really reduces
the amount of time you can kindof either, you know, take time
(19:35):
off feet, take your shoes off,whatever you need to do. I
finished in just under 85 hours,and I had about four four hours
of sleep. Wow, in that amount oftime I'm
Eric Readinger (19:46):
doing all that math right now, holy,
Red Readinger (19:48):
it's low per mile, but, like three miles,
yeah, I
Eric Readinger (19:53):
mean, that's man,
Red Readinger (19:55):
but, but is it? Yeah, it's the long game. It's
the aggregate. All that time andlack of sleep.
Eric Readinger (20:05):
Is it competitive in any way? Or is it
just straight, like everybodywants to just get done? Or is
there that couple guys are like,Well, what do
Red Readinger (20:13):
and win? There are, and it's awesome, you know,
because, yeah, if you're at thefront, and they have their own
camaraderie. They have their own
Eric Readinger (20:26):
the boys club, the winners club, winner circle.
Red Readinger (20:28):
And they want each other to succeed. They want
to push each other so they theyhave something that me in the
mid pack back and pack, if youwant to call it, we just, we
just want to have fun and rightmeet people, or it's, it
actually becomes a suffer fest.Like, I've got probably five to
eight trail Bros and gals thatI've met out there just
suffering, yeah,
Eric Readinger (20:49):
oh, there's some, there's some bonding, some
crazy bonding that happens whenyou suffer physically together,
you know? Like, I mean, not thesame, but like me and my friends
have been sick in the same hotelroom where it was like,
everybody, everything is comingout of everybody, everywhere. We
all are now brothers of somekind. I don't know if you want
to call it, you know, virusdiarrhea, brother, you know. But
(21:11):
like, just, there's somethingbehind, going through the ship
with somebody that's just like,All right, well, we always have
that, you know? We will
Red Readinger (21:19):
always have that. And well, it would be a shared
experience, you know what Imean, where you probably held
their hair or held their handRight exactly? Yeah. I
Eric Readinger (21:28):
mean, so for you, like, when between trail
running and just running, youknow, flat surface for your
brain, what do you feel like?Helps you better, because I
would imagine it's much moreprobably meditative, being on
the flat terrain just kind ofsame thing, you know, where it's
(21:50):
repetitive, it has its ownbenefits. And then being out on
a trail where you're having tofocus on, you know, if you're
not paying attention, you breakyour ankle sort of thing. And
like, to me, there's also, like,you know, goodness for your
brain with that. So, like, I'mcurious what, what you find
best,
Red Readinger (22:09):
you know, I can definitely zone out in any
terrain and you just, it becomesreally natural, I would say,
when you're when you're whenyou're just analyzing the ground
and making sure your feet areproperly set on a on a flattish
spot, or, you know, you're goingto have to tweak your toes up a
little bit to step up on thatrock and up that hill, or
(22:30):
whatever you're doing. Um, yeah,the the road marathons are quite
a little bit better, because youdon't have to be looking down.
But you also find yourselflooking at like I did the LA
Marathon this couple years now,but that was kind of like my
last road marathon I can recall.But it's all like, Oh, let me
look around and see thesedifferent things. So you're,
you're, you're definitelydistracted, but your brain is
(22:52):
always in the back just ticking,you know. So thinking about what
you're like, you know,definitely fluctuating back and
forth between your pace and yourtempo and your heart rate and
how you feel, right? Also, whatam I going to do later? Yeah,
exactly. Did I call that person?Or, you know, did I make plans
to meet up after this, or let metake a selfie with this, this,
(23:14):
you know, clown that's in aclown suit running next to me?
Or, you know, there's, there'salways just something
interesting going on at amarathon. And then you're
looking for signs. People areholding that sign. It's like,
this is the worst parade I'veever been right. That's about my
favorite one,
Eric Readinger (23:31):
yeah, or yeah, just right at that moment, you
know, there's a little kidholding that you could do it. I
was like, yeah, and do it. Youknow, what little kid you're
right. 14 more miles, you know,don't
Red Readinger (23:42):
poop, don't poop your pants. Yeah.
Eric Readinger (23:45):
I mean, how often? So, I mean, when you're
running an ultra marathon, howoften do you gotta go and I
mean, I'm sure you've got itdown to a science where you know
exactly what to eat and whenit's coming out. Seriously,
Red Readinger (23:56):
I still eat just whatever, but I have one of
those. What
Eric Readinger (24:04):
do you call them? Yeah,
Red Readinger (24:06):
no, no. The other way around. We're on. Oh, okay,
so you are already, if I'm notat the house, I'm probably not
going to go, you know what Imean? So I like to have my own
private, private space, privatetimes I'll be backed up for and
that's alright, you know, withme out there, I do carry wet
wipes, a zip up bag and sometoilet paper, though, just not
(24:29):
everywhere.
Eric Readinger (24:29):
I'm going to clip this part and send it to my
dad. He's going to be like what.He's definitely one of us.
Red Readinger (24:41):
But, you know that's, that's part of being
outdoors. And, you know, whenyou gotta go, you gotta go,
yeah?
Eric Readinger (24:46):
So, so, I mean, do you get, like, do you take
you do 100 miles? Do you do thatone shot? Pretty much, no
problem at this point.
Red Readinger (24:56):
Yeah, yeah. That's, that's, that's my
favorite distance. Um. Theyprovide an awesome buckle for
every finish and then or every100 miler. So you get a cool
buckle, you have a reallyawesome experience. It's usually
overnight. It's alwaysovernight, sorry, the time, the
time cut offs are in the 26 to30 hour range. A friend of mine
(25:20):
just ran one in in southwestColorado this past weekend, and
they had a 52 hour cut off. Soit started on Friday morning as
opposed to Saturday morning, butit was all over. Basically,
you're going up, oh man, so, butthat one, I wouldn't recommend
to anybody,
Eric Readinger (25:37):
plus just the air, that's a whole different
ball. Like, dude, that's justlike crazy. Yeah,
Red Readinger (25:43):
the weather was nasty. There's always some hail
in the mix. You know, it's coldat night, so, yeah, your body
goes to the ringer on that one.But no, it's, it's my favorite
distance definitely, becauseit's achievable. And it's one of
those that I love to break itup. I do, like, basically
intense. So every time I get to10 miles, I'm like, Alright, 10%
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done, 20% done, sure. And youjust, you kind of just go at it
like that. And, yeah, that is myfavorite distance. Some of the
other ones, like a marathon, I'mlike, damn, I woke up to go run
for four hours.
Eric Readinger (26:18):
Yeah. I mean, that one's like, whatever to you
now. I mean, like, do you getsleepy? Like, I'm just curious.
I'm trying to put myself in theposition where it's like, All
right, I've been running for 20hours. Like, I'm still running,
but, I mean, your brain has gotto be just crazy at that point.
Like, you get any crazy, like,changes, like, like,
hallucinations, anything. Yeah,
Red Readinger (26:39):
yeah. Definitely at times, especially if I go
into it like that, that Fridaywas a busy work week, or
stressful work week, or I'm notgetting enough sleep, that
weekend is going to be tough.That's one of the main things,
is like, making sure you getenough sleep going into one but,
yeah, I've seen like, I mean, mybig hallucination is all the
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like a like a stump, like a treethat's cut down, or something
like that turns into something,usually dead animals. That's
kind of a scary little at thisCoco Donna in May, I saw just
there were these boulders. And Iwas like, are those Buffalo? And
it was the middle of the day,and I'm like, I think there's,
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there's buffalo over there. Andmy pacer was like, those aren't
buffalo. I mean,
Eric Readinger (27:25):
if you go to the I bet if you go to the finish
line of one of these things,you'll find a button. Everybody
must be tripping out coming overthat thing, just like Insanity.
Because, yeah, I mean, goingjust that long without sleep,
not to mention running theentire time, people must be
bonkers.
Red Readinger (27:41):
Yeah, there's a lot of stories about different
things they see. And it's atthis point it's like,
Eric Readinger (27:47):
I mean, you talk just like, just them just
haven't seen something andthinking of something else, sort
of stuff, or anything crazier.If there's something crazy, I
got to know about that.
Red Readinger (27:57):
No, I wish it
Eric Readinger (28:01):
was even boring 100 miles. Yes,
Red Readinger (28:03):
keep his tie. Would you guys do something
awesome, please? No, I haven'theard of anything like legendary
where you're like, Oh, I can'twait to see that one day, but
it's the same old story. Theyjust see different and you're
like, alright,
Eric Readinger (28:18):
I mean, do you have it? Did you have you seen
anything that's just like acrazy story that would, you
know, something that youwouldn't think would happen, or
anything like that? I don'tknow. I mean, I'm sure you've
seen people mess themselves,that sort of thing. I'm sure
that happens. But, you know, Idon't know, attacked by a
buffalo that's
Red Readinger (28:39):
more of a story, of a story, like the message of
each other, like the messing ofyourself, you know? Yeah,
please. I'm, I'm so glad theback of the Packers aren't like
thinking they can go so fast,because I'm a middle pack
runner, maybe a little bit aboveaverage than middle, but I'm not
at the front. But so we're not,you know, and we're not
competing for prize money oranything. So people are a little
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bit more like reasonable aboutthat. And to be honest, I don't
think I have anything to wowyou. As far as, like, scary
situations, bear chases or likeanimal Yeah, like
Eric Readinger (29:17):
no bear chases mine. All right,
Red Readinger (29:21):
just recently in Montana, there, you know, hail
storms and lightning storms arefreaking scary. I
Eric Readinger (29:27):
bet hail coming down on, I mean, yeah, what is,
what's the procedure there? Findan underpass, Overpass,
Red Readinger (29:35):
get under a tree. You know, just get next to a
tree to have some protection andcover your head, your face. So,
yeah, that's that's fun, butthey're pretty quick. You know
what? I mean? That's how thosethe storms roll in Colorado.
They come through, they're therefor 15 minutes, and then they're
off,
Eric Readinger (29:51):
do their damage, and they're out. I just scare
Red Readinger (29:54):
the shit out of you so you don't even have to go
anymore. Yeah?
Eric Readinger (29:58):
So before we get out. Here, do we want to try and
figure out how we're related?Yeah, I don't know. I feel like,
you know, we can stick tograndpa's, since it's all ready,
you
Red Readinger (30:10):
know, where did you what you're in Florida now,
where did you got? Where didyour your parents and
grandparents? So
Eric Readinger (30:15):
my dad's from Williamstown, Pennsylvania.
Okay, okay. Okay. And hisparents live there too. So,
like, I didn't know. I was like,who give me a list of your
grant, your dad, your grandpa'suncles? Or, I forget what I
asked somewhere. I was like,this would do? This will work.
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I'll figure it out. For Bear.I'm like, so lost the list, by
the way, where from?
Red Readinger (30:41):
Like, my dad's dad, who would be, like, born in
1908 or something, is from Iowaand so, I mean Iowa and Pierre,
I guess. Yeah,
Eric Readinger (30:52):
it's the same, same geography,
Red Readinger (30:56):
you know. But we were raised in, but that was
raised in Texas, born 4019 45but shit, you know, they I was
expecting easier.
Eric Readinger (31:13):
Oh, you're my brother.
Red Readinger (31:17):
No, yeah, that
Eric Readinger (31:20):
we're in it. It's probably not as
entertaining to everyone as wewould hope. But, you know, we
could figure it out. I'm sureit's, you know, it'll be fun for
us
Red Readinger (31:29):
many though. You know what? I
Eric Readinger (31:30):
mean, yeah, that's why I was like, oh yeah,
we gotta make this happen. Imean, it's all red, red egg, or,
you know, I teach PE and theycall me coach red, like it's,
you know, weirdly enough, thecolor red, I'm not a huge fan.
Yeah, do you,
Red Readinger (31:45):
um, you say ger, reading girl, yeah, sure. Girl,
okay, okay, so it's funny, mydad says reading her. No, my dad
says reading jur. And my uncle,his brother says reading her,
Eric Readinger (31:58):
yeah. I mean, I kind of just let it slide.
However, most people give it asoft g. And I was like, whatever
you got all the letters good foryou. I'm here. You know I'm
supposed to be
Red Readinger (32:11):
you'll have to ask your your dad. I know the
maiden name of like, the our, Idon't know my grandfather's
grandfather's wife was pray, F,R, E, y, fray got it. If that
ever that could help, maybe,definitely reach back out and
we'll
Eric Readinger (32:31):
see. Alright, yeah, next time you come back
on, I'll have a nice chart, youknow, with all type of
Red Readinger (32:38):
genealogy thing, I'll have to find out where
that's at. Oh yeah, it goes, itgoes back to Germany, right?
Eric Readinger (32:46):
I did know that so we could start at Germany and
go from there. Probably, yeah,maybe let's skip this. Get to
America. Then, you know, let'sget skip the German part, and
then the German part. Bring thatup. My grandpa found a World War
World War Two okay for theAmericans.
Red Readinger (33:07):
Yeah, for the record,
Eric Readinger (33:09):
but yeah, man, this was fun. Glad, glad we got
to make it happen. I appreciateyour time, and I appreciate you
too. Yeah, I'll keep in touch.We'll figure out how we're
related one way or another.
Red Readinger (33:19):
Cool. And yeah, if you come out to LA man,
holler at me and we'll Yeah,
Eric Readinger (33:23):
I want to see some nice architecture at these
restaurants, other otherrestaurants. Man, we got tons of
other ones. Sounds good. Man,all right. Have a good night.
You too.
Unknown (34:00):
Now you.
It's called sweat equity. Sweat
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you are listening to the sweatequity podcast, good
Eric Readinger (00:28):
to go randomly. Apparently it's all reading
gurus today, my kids decidedthey wanted to join in and be
producers, so I got both of themsitting here, you guys? Yeah,
clearly said you didn't want tobe on camera. Now they're about
to knock everything over tryingto get on camera. Are you trying
to say hi to your cousin?
Red Readinger (00:50):
That's awesome. Don't
Eric Readinger (00:51):
worry about background, no, looks great.
Looks great. Background, Nope,you're good. Looks great. Okay,
yeah, cool. Um, so we'll justget right into it. It's a very
special episode of a podcast.There's going to be changes to
the podcast. Nothing crazy. Lawis still alive, but there will
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be some I don't want to say muchmore than that. I'm just teasing
it out. But what better way tokind of make a transition to do
a familial podcast. First thingI'd like to do, though, is a
lightning round questions. Idon't know if you got a chance
to listen to the podcast before,but we like to throw some some
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things out there. Get a gagewhat what's going on? What time
do you wake up in the morning?
Red Readinger (01:42):
This morning, or every morning,
Eric Readinger (01:44):
every morning on on average. You know, 630
Red Readinger (01:48):
to seven this morning was about 530 just ready
to get going. Okay,
Eric Readinger (01:55):
so if you're putting on a movie that you want
a guaranteed laugh, What movieare you putting on?
Red Readinger (02:00):
Oh, man, anything. Adam Sandler, that's
going to be to the top, HappyGilmore or Billy Madison,
Eric Readinger (02:06):
okay, sounds about right? Checks out. That's
a writing. Great answer. Howabout a cry? Guaranteed cry
movie.
Red Readinger (02:15):
Fill the dreams comes to mind. Wow. You
Eric Readinger (02:18):
are related to us.
Red Readinger (02:22):
I don't know, slip us in Seattle. I mean, we
get a little romantic, okay,
Eric Readinger (02:29):
this guy, God, what do you think about him? Say
it again. God, what do you thinkabout God? Oh, boy,
Red Readinger (02:36):
oh, oh, well, I always say dog speed, baby. I
don't know. I think it'sdifferent for everyone. And for
me, it's, it's, it's nottraditional. If that makes
sense, your view is nottraditional, correct? My view of
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God is not traditional. Okay?
Eric Readinger (02:59):
I'd say, I mean, you know, I could, I could kind
of agree with that for myself.Um, have you ever seen anything
supernatural, UFO, a ghost,anything cool?
Red Readinger (03:12):
Yeah, I haven't, personally, but a buddy of mine
who's like, one of my, one of mybesties, solid blue orb one
time, and I really am like, Holymackerel, yeah, yeah. So I'm
going with it with his answer onthat, yeah, wanting to believe
Eric Readinger (03:28):
it's yeah. Oh, it's happening more and more. I
mean, I pretty much made abranch off podcast just talking
about that stuff.
Red Readinger (03:33):
But, yeah, cool.
Eric Readinger (03:36):
So we're talking to Red redinger, who normally,
law gets lazy and makes theguests do the plugs, but your
family, so I'll do it for you,but we, I came across you on
LinkedIn. Our last name is notcommon at all. I was like, okay,
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see what's up with this guy. Youknow, I saw you had, I had a
business, whatever reached out,connected. I was like, oh, you
know, want to go on the podcast.Is blind. Let's just, let's see
what happens. Like, if yourfamily, you'll be fine with it,
you know? So, yeah, it's been acouple delays now at this point,
but, you know, I will. I'm not ahuge fan. I don't know if you
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got to listen to listen to theshow before, about the what
advice you would give your 13year old self? Question that we
do, I'd like to modify it whereyou're, like, on a trolley or
something somewhat slow, butyou're moving past your 13 year
old self. You got about five to10 seconds to kind of yell
something at your 13 year oldself. You got to kind of make it
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stick. Knowing your 13 year oldself got to get their attention.
You don't get to tell them, It'syou, it's me from the future.
You don't get to do that, butyou get to tell yourself one
thing as you're rolling by. Whatwould that be?
Red Readinger (04:58):
Don't go with the flow. Oh, swim upstream. Do
something different. Be who youare. I mean, it's definitely
look deeper. Take the road lesstraveled. It's going to be all
in that same vein, that it'sbeing normal is overrated. I'd
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say it's, yeah, you'll, you'llfind out that you, you're,
you're not like the others,eventually. So the sooner you
do, the better.
Eric Readinger (05:29):
It's very that that answer hits home. You know
it sounds familiar. So you knowwhat direction you want to go
in. Do you want to talk aboutPreen? Do you want to talk about
ultra marathons, because I couldget into that. But, you know,
I'd like to get you a little bitof a plug before we get too far
into the other fun stuff.
Red Readinger (05:49):
Yeah, I would love to to get my sister and
praying a shout out. I justbegan a role in the business
development, which actually ismorphed into the Director of
Client Services, which is alittle bit more, you know, hands
on, polished about, you know,current clients, and then also
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future clients, prospectiveclients. We are a architecture
and design studio based in LAand we specialize in restaurants
slash bar slash interesting,creative spaces. We make
beautiful, immersive, one of akind, bespoke design. So it's
basically like anything inside aspot, to the exterior, but
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really down to the furniture,the colors, the textures, the
lighting, just about everything.We were award winning
international yada yada, etc.That's awesome. Yeah, it's cool.
Eric Readinger (06:47):
I mean, Director of Client Services for
restaurant. I mean, that soundslike a badass job. I mean, it's,
is it, how are you doing fixingclient problems? Or do you get
to expense account? Woo theclients. Keep them happy on that
end, because that would beawesome for you. Yes,
Red Readinger (07:05):
a little of everything. Honestly, it's my
older sister's firm. She's beenthe the principal and founder
since 2005 and she's a creativeI'm went to school for finance
and economics. I've been insales for the last eight years.
So I My role is to reduce herstress and however that looks,
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I'm the nice guy, the mean guy,whichever guy you need me to be
on that person. But overall, wewant what's best for our
clients. We want to makesomething awesome. We want to
see them in business for yearsand years and years, and that's
the big part of it, isatmosphere, experience and just
having a place that peoplereally want to go back to. So,
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yeah, it's a little ofeverything. It's great. I love
to eat, yeah?
Eric Readinger (07:56):
I mean, it sounds like a real Yeah. I mean,
yeah, do you have any clientsthat are like, stand out that
you're really proud of?
Red Readinger (08:07):
Yeah? So actually, the oh shoot, I forgot
which publication just did this,but the best fast casual in
America is how and raise, andthat's their first one was in
Chinatown, LA, and it'sbasically Nashville chicken. So
it's like hot chickensandwiches. We did their second
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one in Pasadena. And it's, it'sphenomenal. So, yeah, holidays,
it's cool, yeah, fast casualrestaurant. But it's, it is
fire. So if you ever get out toLA, holler at me.
Eric Readinger (08:39):
Oh, I got a feeling these kids are going to
make me take them out there,just for the number one fast
casual restaurant in America, inAmerica family kind of they're
over it. They're like, when canwe leave? So, yeah, I mean,
that's, that's really cool.That's an awesome job. Really
happy for you. But it was like,man, you know what? If it was
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really boring, but that soundsawesome, you know, don't want to
have to drag it out of you,like, we do some guests, you
know. So, ultra marathons,
Unknown (09:12):
yeah,
Eric Readinger (09:14):
how did you, how did you get into that? I mean
that it sounds crazy. I I feelyou like I used to do, longest I
ever did was a half marathon,okay? And I was like, Yeah, I
get it, you know, sort of thing.And I was like, that's good for
me. But yeah, I want to hearabout that, that sort of
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journey. What pay
Red Readinger (09:43):
attention Well, I mean, running is one of the most
boring things you can do, right?Like, there's not a ball to
chase, there's not, there's not,there's not anything so, right?
Personally, I hated runninglike, like, everybody that's a
instead. Be a kind of a commonstatement by runners is that
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they never really liked runningoriginally, um, and I think what
brought it all together was, Iwas early 20s, and I have an
uncle who's run. He's now atlike, over 400 marathons. Holy
when I had he came to Texas torun the Dallas White Rock
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marathon, way back when I'mlike, thinking about it and
literally being like, this guydid that. But he was in a group
called the 50 states marathonclub, with the intention to run
one marathon in every state. Andsomething about the travel
aspect, the goal, the mag like,yeah, it's point two miles, but
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you're doing it times 50, andthen each time you're getting a
new location. I remember beingin elementary school and looking
at the map on the wall and beinglike, Man, I want to go to every
one of those states and just seewhat they're like, like, what's
the difference? Like, what iswhat's cool about Michigan, you
know? So fast forward to my mycollege days. I'm like, Man,
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this 55 year old dude can dothis. I think I could do it, you
know. So he kind of like, madesomething so immense, and in
high level and next level reallyseemed to be achievable from
from my perspective. And then itwas that it was like, it was, it
was literally a self like dare,actually the literal dare from
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my roommate to see if we coulddo the half marathon in our
hometown. And it was like, twoweeks in advance. And I was
like, Well, I Oh, nice, two
Eric Readinger (11:44):
weeks. Okay, were you running at all before
that? No, okay,
Red Readinger (11:51):
yeah, just be awesome, jumping fences. I think
I did two six mile runs beforethe my 30s.
Eric Readinger (12:00):
Yeah, I mean, yeah. So, you
Red Readinger (12:03):
know, kept a nine minute mile pace. I think I came
in right at two hours, dude. I
Eric Readinger (12:08):
mean, it's, we're not running at all. It's
awesome. I'm just trying
Red Readinger (12:11):
to hang on with everybody else there. You know
what? I mean, you're doinguntil, like, you you're hurting.
And I was definitely hurting,like, afterwards, that feeling
of after the finish of my first13 mile or half marathon and the
finish of my first 100 miler,the the pain were about the
same, really? No,
Eric Readinger (12:32):
I mean, you know, it is such a weird thing
because, you know, they've done,what's the guy, Dean, Dean
carnaz. Yeah, he's, uh, youknow, they looked at him and
they're like, you know, if hekeeps eating and drinking water,
like, effectively, he could runforever. Like, I don't know
about sleeping, uh, you know,that's who knows about the
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sleeping part. But like, they'relike, physically, he should be
able to just go forever and hetries. I mean, you know, it
sounds like you're getting theretoo, but that's what's great.
Can you not audibly yawn at thepodcast? Please, come on. These
are,
Red Readinger (13:15):
don't yawn into the mic at least. I
Eric Readinger (13:17):
mean, I know the mics off. I could feel it,
though. Yeah, it's too old guystalk about running really far. I
get it all right. We
Red Readinger (13:26):
already admitted it's boring, yeah,
Eric Readinger (13:29):
I mean, but still, I want to know more about
it. So for one thing, the thegoal aspect, resonates for me
like that was always somethinglike, I always like to have that
goal in the future, you know,that's coming up. Prepare for
that in you know, that wasalways motivating for me. But to
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get, you know, I'm gonna, Idon't want to fill in the story
for you, but you must have beenlike, okay, you know, do a
marathon in every state, youknow, what's next? What's the
step up from a marathon? How fardid you go? Yeah, that's
Red Readinger (14:07):
what's crazy. So I probably got five or six
marathons in, and then someonetold me about trail running, and
it's, it's different, you know,it's, yeah, on dirt, like it's
just anything that's not roadand, you know, that got me, I
actually should pause and say Iheard about the Hash House
Harriers, which is a beerdrinking running group, first
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before I heard about trailsYeah, sounds pretty good. Make
the timeline correct, and I gotinto beer drinking and running
first before I got into trailrunning. But it's all, it's all
about the recovery process. Butanyway, the Yeah, it must have
been Yeah, six or seven, eightmonths before my, or I should
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say, after my first marathon,before I was like, starting into
seeing how it would be to run ontrails. And then that's where
the ultras come in. Is theyusually have, like a marathon or
a 50k in trails, and that'susually the lowest distance, or
the shortest distance. And thenit's in addition to the 50k they
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have a 50 mile or and, or 100kand, or 100 mile or happening
simultaneously. And you candecide which one you want to do.
So the first, first one that Irecollect was October of like,
2007 and it was called the PaloDuro. That is
Eric Readinger (15:30):
when I ran my first triathlon. Swear to God, I
was like, Don't say 2007 bro.And that's yes. Is that right?
What
Red Readinger (15:39):
year are you born? Eric, hold
Eric Readinger (15:40):
on a second. No, I'm sorry, that's not right.
That doesn't make sense. Okay, Iwas just looking for a
synchronicity. I was born in 83I'm 40,
Red Readinger (15:51):
same.
Eric Readinger (15:52):
Okay, all right, that's ours. We'll do the family
tree part after the runningpart. Okay, because I do want to
figure it out. I know. Okay, so,so wait you those were all those
distances you laid out just now.Those were all on trails.
Red Readinger (16:11):
Yeah. So those are that. I mean, it's just the
way that race organizations putit on. They're like, yo. We'll
have a shorter distance, a 50koption, will throw out a 50 mile
option, which is usually just asecond, third loop, right? So
then they already have these aidstations set up. And so it's
like, Yeah, bring your bringyour kids. They can do the 50k
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while you're out there doing the50 mile, or, you know, whatever.
It's just so that they can, youknow, appease all distances and
all people. But that first onein Palo Duro, which is a state
park in the panhandle of Texas,um, our start was 630 and they
had a 50 mile or start at 6amand I'm like, shit. And it's
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always this, like question. Imean, I think that's the biggest
thing about these distance racesor achieving anything, is asking
yourself, can I do this? Yeah,and so
Eric Readinger (17:03):
am I going to get lapped by the people who
started before
Red Readinger (17:06):
me? No kidding, and usually answered yes by the
front runner,
Eric Readinger (17:10):
or Yeah, or the people who yeah exactly the
people who started after you.They're like, catching up.
Red Readinger (17:14):
We call them FRBs. Uh. FRB is a front running
bastard, yeah, yeah,
Eric Readinger (17:23):
they're they're motivating. I'll give
Red Readinger (17:26):
profanity was allowed on this mic. Very much.
So, okay, yeah, sorry, it's yournah. He's
Eric Readinger (17:31):
fine. I'm sleeping now he's awake. Yeah,
yeah, he's
Red Readinger (17:35):
already gone. Anyway, yeah, that was my first.
My first attempt was a 50k andit went great. I mean, you're
out there and the sun's rising,and you're just like a kid, you
know, you're just out thereenjoying the day, and you gotta
watch out for rocks and rootsand and different things. And as
opposed to road race, whereyou're there's a mile marker
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every mile, and it's flat, orit's, you know, it's just
smooth, and it's all aboutspeed. And I have my watch on
and I'm clicking off the miles,but on the trails, there's no
mile markers. You just before,you know it an hour, two hours
have just gone by, and you're atthe next aid station and you're,
they're handing you peanutbutter jellies or sandwiches or
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giving you a coke. Like, thefood is much better in an ultra
okay, they give you chips,snacks, candy, like it's, it's
pretty funny. I mean, it's allabout, I mean, yeah, you can
pretty much eat whatever youwant, right? Calories? Yeah,
yeah, get it in and, and, to behonest, it's really not much
more rocket science than that.It was seeing the guys line up
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at 6am and we still had 30minutes, never the 50 miler
start off, and I'm like, shit,you know? Why didn't I sign up
for that? It only took meprobably another month to find
another one that was going to bemy 50 miler. So cool, like it
escalated quickly, as they say,and, and it still has to be
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honest, I ran my my furthestdistance at the beginning of
May, and that was a 250 milercalled the CoCo Donna.
Eric Readinger (19:11):
Oh, yeah, I was wondering how what's the
farthest you've gone
Red Readinger (19:14):
in Arizona? So that was in one and we call this
in one shot. You know what Imean? Like, yeah, they have
sleep stations along the way. Soyou can take a nap, you can take
it. You can take a five hour napif you want. You can take a 10
hour nap, depending on if youcan make the cut offs. So the
cut offs start to come intoplay, and so that really reduces
the amount of time you can kindof either, you know, take time
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off feet, take your shoes off,whatever you need to do. I
finished in just under 85 hours,and I had about four four hours
of sleep. Wow, in that amount oftime I'm
Eric Readinger (19:46):
doing all that math right now, holy,
Red Readinger (19:48):
it's low per mile, but, like three miles,
yeah, I
Eric Readinger (19:53):
mean, that's man,
Red Readinger (19:55):
but, but is it? Yeah, it's the long game. It's
the aggregate. All that time andlack of sleep.
Eric Readinger (20:05):
Is it competitive in any way? Or is it
just straight, like everybodywants to just get done? Or is
there that couple guys are like,Well, what do
Red Readinger (20:13):
and win? There are, and it's awesome, you know,
because, yeah, if you're at thefront, and they have their own
camaraderie. They have their own
Eric Readinger (20:26):
the boys club, the winners club, winner circle.
Red Readinger (20:28):
And they want each other to succeed. They want
to push each other so they theyhave something that me in the
mid pack back and pack, if youwant to call it, we just, we
just want to have fun and rightmeet people, or it's, it
actually becomes a suffer fest.Like, I've got probably five to
eight trail Bros and gals thatI've met out there just
suffering, yeah,
Eric Readinger (20:49):
oh, there's some, there's some bonding, some
crazy bonding that happens whenyou suffer physically together,
you know? Like, I mean, not thesame, but like me and my friends
have been sick in the same hotelroom where it was like,
everybody, everything is comingout of everybody, everywhere. We
all are now brothers of somekind. I don't know if you want
to call it, you know, virusdiarrhea, brother, you know. But
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like, just, there's somethingbehind, going through the ship
with somebody that's just like,All right, well, we always have
that, you know? We will
Red Readinger (21:19):
always have that. And well, it would be a shared
experience, you know what Imean, where you probably held
their hair or held their handRight exactly? Yeah. I
Eric Readinger (21:28):
mean, so for you, like, when between trail
running and just running, youknow, flat surface for your
brain, what do you feel like?Helps you better, because I
would imagine it's much moreprobably meditative, being on
the flat terrain just kind ofsame thing, you know, where it's
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repetitive, it has its ownbenefits. And then being out on
a trail where you're having tofocus on, you know, if you're
not paying attention, you breakyour ankle sort of thing. And
like, to me, there's also, like,you know, goodness for your
brain with that. So, like, I'mcurious what, what you find
best,
Red Readinger (22:09):
you know, I can definitely zone out in any
terrain and you just, it becomesreally natural, I would say,
when you're when you're whenyou're just analyzing the ground
and making sure your feet areproperly set on a on a flattish
spot, or, you know, you're goingto have to tweak your toes up a
little bit to step up on thatrock and up that hill, or
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whatever you're doing. Um, yeah,the the road marathons are quite
a little bit better, because youdon't have to be looking down.
But you also find yourselflooking at like I did the LA
Marathon this couple years now,but that was kind of like my
last road marathon I can recall.But it's all like, Oh, let me
look around and see thesedifferent things. So you're,
you're, you're definitelydistracted, but your brain is
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always in the back just ticking,you know. So thinking about what
you're like, you know,definitely fluctuating back and
forth between your pace and yourtempo and your heart rate and
how you feel, right? Also, whatam I going to do later? Yeah,
exactly. Did I call that person?Or, you know, did I make plans
to meet up after this, or let metake a selfie with this, this,
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you know, clown that's in aclown suit running next to me?
Or, you know, there's, there'salways just something
interesting going on at amarathon. And then you're
looking for signs. People areholding that sign. It's like,
this is the worst parade I'veever been right. That's about my
favorite one,
Eric Readinger (23:31):
yeah, or yeah, just right at that moment, you
know, there's a little kidholding that you could do it. I
was like, yeah, and do it. Youknow, what little kid you're
right. 14 more miles, you know,don't
Red Readinger (23:42):
poop, don't poop your pants. Yeah.
Eric Readinger (23:45):
I mean, how often? So, I mean, when you're
running an ultra marathon, howoften do you gotta go and I
mean, I'm sure you've got itdown to a science where you know
exactly what to eat and whenit's coming out. Seriously,
Red Readinger (23:56):
I still eat just whatever, but I have one of
those. What
Eric Readinger (24:04):
do you call them? Yeah,
Red Readinger (24:06):
no, no. The other way around. We're on. Oh, okay,
so you are already, if I'm notat the house, I'm probably not
going to go, you know what Imean? So I like to have my own
private, private space, privatetimes I'll be backed up for and
that's alright, you know, withme out there, I do carry wet
wipes, a zip up bag and sometoilet paper, though, just not
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everywhere.
Eric Readinger (24:29):
I'm going to clip this part and send it to my
dad. He's going to be like what.He's definitely one of us.
Red Readinger (24:41):
But, you know that's, that's part of being
outdoors. And, you know, whenyou gotta go, you gotta go,
yeah?
Eric Readinger (24:46):
So, so, I mean, do you get, like, do you take
you do 100 miles? Do you do thatone shot? Pretty much, no
problem at this point.
Red Readinger (24:56):
Yeah, yeah. That's, that's, that's my
favorite distance. Um. Theyprovide an awesome buckle for
every finish and then or every100 miler. So you get a cool
buckle, you have a reallyawesome experience. It's usually
overnight. It's alwaysovernight, sorry, the time, the
time cut offs are in the 26 to30 hour range. A friend of mine
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just ran one in in southwestColorado this past weekend, and
they had a 52 hour cut off. Soit started on Friday morning as
opposed to Saturday morning, butit was all over. Basically,
you're going up, oh man, so, butthat one, I wouldn't recommend
to anybody,
Eric Readinger (25:37):
plus just the air, that's a whole different
ball. Like, dude, that's justlike crazy. Yeah,
Red Readinger (25:43):
the weather was nasty. There's always some hail
in the mix. You know, it's coldat night, so, yeah, your body
goes to the ringer on that one.But no, it's, it's my favorite
distance definitely, becauseit's achievable. And it's one of
those that I love to break itup. I do, like, basically
intense. So every time I get to10 miles, I'm like, Alright, 10%
(26:04):
done, 20% done, sure. And youjust, you kind of just go at it
like that. And, yeah, that is myfavorite distance. Some of the
other ones, like a marathon, I'mlike, damn, I woke up to go run
for four hours.
Eric Readinger (26:18):
Yeah. I mean, that one's like, whatever to you
now. I mean, like, do you getsleepy? Like, I'm just curious.
I'm trying to put myself in theposition where it's like, All
right, I've been running for 20hours. Like, I'm still running,
but, I mean, your brain has gotto be just crazy at that point.
Like, you get any crazy, like,changes, like, like,
hallucinations, anything. Yeah,
Red Readinger (26:39):
yeah. Definitely at times, especially if I go
into it like that, that Fridaywas a busy work week, or
stressful work week, or I'm notgetting enough sleep, that
weekend is going to be tough.That's one of the main things,
is like, making sure you getenough sleep going into one but,
yeah, I've seen like, I mean, mybig hallucination is all the
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like a like a stump, like a treethat's cut down, or something
like that turns into something,usually dead animals. That's
kind of a scary little at thisCoco Donna in May, I saw just
there were these boulders. And Iwas like, are those Buffalo? And
it was the middle of the day,and I'm like, I think there's,
(27:21):
there's buffalo over there. Andmy pacer was like, those aren't
buffalo. I mean,
Eric Readinger (27:25):
if you go to the I bet if you go to the finish
line of one of these things,you'll find a button. Everybody
must be tripping out coming overthat thing, just like Insanity.
Because, yeah, I mean, goingjust that long without sleep,
not to mention running theentire time, people must be
bonkers.
Red Readinger (27:41):
Yeah, there's a lot of stories about different
things they see. And it's atthis point it's like,
Eric Readinger (27:47):
I mean, you talk just like, just them just
haven't seen something andthinking of something else, sort
of stuff, or anything crazier.If there's something crazy, I
got to know about that.
Red Readinger (27:57):
No, I wish it
Eric Readinger (28:01):
was even boring 100 miles. Yes,
Red Readinger (28:03):
keep his tie. Would you guys do something
awesome, please? No, I haven'theard of anything like legendary
where you're like, Oh, I can'twait to see that one day, but
it's the same old story. Theyjust see different and you're
like, alright,
Eric Readinger (28:18):
I mean, do you have it? Did you have you seen
anything that's just like acrazy story that would, you
know, something that youwouldn't think would happen, or
anything like that? I don'tknow. I mean, I'm sure you've
seen people mess themselves,that sort of thing. I'm sure
that happens. But, you know, Idon't know, attacked by a
buffalo that's
Red Readinger (28:39):
more of a story, of a story, like the message of
each other, like the messing ofyourself, you know? Yeah,
please. I'm, I'm so glad theback of the Packers aren't like
thinking they can go so fast,because I'm a middle pack
runner, maybe a little bit aboveaverage than middle, but I'm not
at the front. But so we're not,you know, and we're not
competing for prize money oranything. So people are a little
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bit more like reasonable aboutthat. And to be honest, I don't
think I have anything to wowyou. As far as, like, scary
situations, bear chases or likeanimal Yeah, like
Eric Readinger (29:17):
no bear chases mine. All right,
Red Readinger (29:21):
just recently in Montana, there, you know, hail
storms and lightning storms arefreaking scary. I
Eric Readinger (29:27):
bet hail coming down on, I mean, yeah, what is,
what's the procedure there? Findan underpass, Overpass,
Red Readinger (29:35):
get under a tree. You know, just get next to a
tree to have some protection andcover your head, your face. So,
yeah, that's that's fun, butthey're pretty quick. You know
what? I mean? That's how thosethe storms roll in Colorado.
They come through, they're therefor 15 minutes, and then they're
off,
Eric Readinger (29:51):
do their damage, and they're out. I just scare
Red Readinger (29:54):
the shit out of you so you don't even have to go
anymore. Yeah?
Eric Readinger (29:58):
So before we get out. Here, do we want to try and
figure out how we're related?Yeah, I don't know. I feel like,
you know, we can stick tograndpa's, since it's all ready,
you
Red Readinger (30:10):
know, where did you what you're in Florida now,
where did you got? Where didyour your parents and
grandparents? So
Eric Readinger (30:15):
my dad's from Williamstown, Pennsylvania.
Okay, okay. Okay. And hisparents live there too. So,
like, I didn't know. I was like,who give me a list of your
grant, your dad, your grandpa'suncles? Or, I forget what I
asked somewhere. I was like,this would do? This will work.
(30:36):
I'll figure it out. For Bear.I'm like, so lost the list, by
the way, where from?
Red Readinger (30:41):
Like, my dad's dad, who would be, like, born in
1908 or something, is from Iowaand so, I mean Iowa and Pierre,
I guess. Yeah,
Eric Readinger (30:52):
it's the same, same geography,
Red Readinger (30:56):
you know. But we were raised in, but that was
raised in Texas, born 4019 45but shit, you know, they I was
expecting easier.
Eric Readinger (31:13):
Oh, you're my brother.
Red Readinger (31:17):
No, yeah, that
Eric Readinger (31:20):
we're in it. It's probably not as
entertaining to everyone as wewould hope. But, you know, we
could figure it out. I'm sureit's, you know, it'll be fun for
us
Red Readinger (31:29):
many though. You know what? I
Eric Readinger (31:30):
mean, yeah, that's why I was like, oh yeah,
we gotta make this happen. Imean, it's all red, red egg, or,
you know, I teach PE and theycall me coach red, like it's,
you know, weirdly enough, thecolor red, I'm not a huge fan.
Yeah, do you,
Red Readinger (31:45):
um, you say ger, reading girl, yeah, sure. Girl,
okay, okay, so it's funny, mydad says reading her. No, my dad
says reading jur. And my uncle,his brother says reading her,
Eric Readinger (31:58):
yeah. I mean, I kind of just let it slide.
However, most people give it asoft g. And I was like, whatever
you got all the letters good foryou. I'm here. You know I'm
supposed to be
Red Readinger (32:11):
you'll have to ask your your dad. I know the
maiden name of like, the our, Idon't know my grandfather's
grandfather's wife was pray, F,R, E, y, fray got it. If that
ever that could help, maybe,definitely reach back out and
we'll
Eric Readinger (32:31):
see. Alright, yeah, next time you come back
on, I'll have a nice chart, youknow, with all type of
Red Readinger (32:38):
genealogy thing, I'll have to find out where
that's at. Oh yeah, it goes, itgoes back to Germany, right?
Eric Readinger (32:46):
I did know that so we could start at Germany and
go from there. Probably, yeah,maybe let's skip this. Get to
America. Then, you know, let'sget skip the German part, and
then the German part. Bring thatup. My grandpa found a World War
World War Two okay for theAmericans.
Red Readinger (33:07):
Yeah, for the record,
Eric Readinger (33:09):
but yeah, man, this was fun. Glad, glad we got
to make it happen. I appreciateyour time, and I appreciate you
too. Yeah, I'll keep in touch.We'll figure out how we're
related one way or another.
Red Readinger (33:19):
Cool. And yeah, if you come out to LA man,
holler at me and we'll Yeah,
Eric Readinger (33:23):
I want to see some nice architecture at these
restaurants, other otherrestaurants. Man, we got tons of
other ones. Sounds good. Man,all right. Have a good night.
You too.
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