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May 15, 2022 49 mins
In this episode, you’ll hear Katja share her story of finding her roots and falling in love with Finnish culture, and how sauna and cold swimming changed her life. Through the lens of her books (The Finnish Way, Everyday Sisu), Justin and Katja unpack what it means to carry and practice sisu, how integrating hot and cold practices can change your life. 

Order Katja’s new book, Everyday Sisu, and  The Finnish Way

 

00:05:00:00 - Katja shares her story, falling in love with Finnish culture

00:11:00:00 Justin and Katja discuss sauna and equality

00:13:36:00 What is sisu? 

00:17:00:00 Justin reads a selection from Katja’s new book, Everyday Sisu

00:20:00:00 Finding your sisu practice

00:25:00:00 Why would someone go winter swimming? 

00:41:45:00 Getting your sisu practice started



About Katja Pantzar

Helsinki-based writer, editor and broadcast journalist Katja Pantzar was raised in Canada with stints in New Zealand and the UK. Her areas of specialism range from wellbeing and resilience to sustainability, design and business. Her 2018 book, The Finnish Way, has been translated into 23 different languages and published in countries including the US, the UK, Germany, China, Japan and France. It takes readers on a journey to Finland and explores simple and sensible ways to boost well-being inspired by the Nordic lifestyle through a unique concept of courage and strength called sisu. Her newest book, Everyday Sisu: Tapping into Finnish Fortitude for a Happier, More Resilient Life, was published on March 15th by Penguin Random House US. Through expert interviews and fact-based information, Everyday Sisu examines how we can better support our mental and physical health while taking care of each other and our planet.

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