October 30, 2024 • 18 mins
We're back!! Did you miss us? In this first episode of season 7, our OG co-host Keith, along with our new Gen Z co-host Katelyn, discuss why we felt the need to revive the Saved-ish Podcast, what it means to be saved, and whether or not salvation is something you need to continually work to maintain.
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Welcome to the Saved-ish Podcast,where we have conversations about
being young, Christian and imperfect.
Before we get into this thing, I wantto acknowledge the elephant in the room.
About three years ago, we recorded anddropped an episode Money Moves, where
we talked about how to manage your moneywhile also, staying true to your faith.
And then we went on pretty much athree and a half year break and we
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did not really tell you guys about it.
We ghosted you, and I justwant to acknowledge that.
I want to take, you know, therighteous approach to this thing and
be the Christian that I'm supposedto be and blame it on my kids.
I have two kids and when you have twokids, three years ago by like that.
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And so let's just be real.
It wasn't that long, for the peoplewho DM'ed me, not Saved-ish, me, to
tell me that they wanted the pod back.
I heard you.
I appreciate you guys.
And, and in all seriousness, we aresorry for the lack of communication,
but we are excited that we are back.
With that said, I do want to acknowledgethat Kiana will not be a co host anymore.
(01:26):
She has a ton of things goingon, including her amazing
business, Kickin' It With Ki.
She's doing it really bigin the mindfulness space.
And so I definitely encourage you allto support her in any way that you can.
But yeah, we're back.
And so I'm excited and I would loveto introduce you all to somebody
very special, our brand new cohost.
(01:46):
Someone who was born in a year thatstarts with two, which is crazy.
Katelyn so Katelyn, hi,welcome to Savedish.
I'm excited to have you here.
I know we've had our conversations,we've connected, but I definitely
want you to have your moment tointroduce yourself to the people
so they know who's talking to them.
First of all, not too much on the year.
Yes, I was born in 2001.
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But you also were born in the eighties.
But yeah.
Hey y'all.
My name is Katelyn Robertson.
I'm a student at Howard.
I'm originally fromBaton Rouge, Louisiana.
And I've been going to Bethel since 2019.
So yeah, that's a little bit about me.
All right, Louisiana, 2019.
The podcast is called Saved-ish.
So let's talk about it.
Walk me through your faith walk upto this point and kind of help me
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understand like where you are now.
And I'll do some kind of catchingup because I know not everybody used
to listen or used to watch, becausewe got cameras now, which is crazy.
And so I'll also chime in and make surepeople know what I'm up to as well.
Yeah.
So my faith walk started pretty early.
I started, I guess, pursuing Christianityand salvation around like five or six.
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My dad, he's a minister.
So grew up in the church,that church, very often.
And he ironically was over thekids ministry, so I'd be begging
to get baptized every Sunday andhe'd be like, no, like, what is
your purpose in getting baptized?
Just get dipped in water?
Well, that's not good enough, you know?
And so, like, he really took the timeto talk to me about what salvation is,
and that's recognizing how Jesus diedfor our sins because of the love that
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he has for us and his obedience to theFather and how we can accept that gift
for free and have eternal life in Him.
Which is a big concept to understand,I guess, for a five or six year old.
But if you break it down simpleit's really also not that hard for a
five or six year old to understand.
So yeah, so I guess that'slike the initial start of
my faith walk with Christ.
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And then from there, it's just beenlike different levels of like getting
to know Him in different aspectsthrough trials, through good times and,
you know, different facets like that.
That's awesome.
So you think that at five or six, likeyou made a conscious decision to give your
life to the Lord and you don't feel atall like you were pressured or kind of, I
don't know, I want to be sensitive, right?
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Because, you know, I'm raising children.
I want to make sure they know, knowGod, but also want to balance it a bit,
you know, to not force them into it.
Because I know personally, I don'tknow that my real relationship with
God began until I was probably 18, 19in college and I had stopped going to
church with my parents and I decidedthis was something I needed for myself.
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And so I'm wondering how at fiveor six versus now, like, looks
different in terms of your faith walk.
Yeah.
I feel like I definitelywasn't pressured into it.
It's my parents, the way they revealedchristianity and salvation to me is
like this is what God has done for us.
This is how we accepted it.
This is our relationship with Christand of course like we would love
for you to also accept that giftbecause of the love we have for you
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and we know how great the gift is.
But it wasn't like you have to be youknow a Christian like you have to be saved
so I think in that liberty and freedomI was able to really like digest it for
myself even more so at a young age.
I think the second part to answer thatquestion would be more like having
an early calling in my life you know,the whole part of being sanctified
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and set apart and God wanted to use mefrom a young age in different spaces.
I feel like I needed to be called at ayoung age or I needed to be exposed to
it early and accept the gift of salvationso that he couldn't use me, growing up.
So, were you like the kid who like ledthe choir and preached sermons and stuff?
I was that kid, leadingdevotions and standing...
There was the corner of Lobdell and...
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I can't remember the other corner,but it was right by my church.
And on Saturday mornings me andmy dad and another minister at my
church would park at the corner.
We had signs that said like,honk if you love Jesus and
pull over if you want prayer.
And like, I would like literally sitthere and pray with people and for
people what they were going through.
And I was like eight or nine doing that,which sounds crazy, but I just was that
kid, like, I just love Jesus so much.
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It sounds a little crazy.
It does sound crazy.
I know.
On the block for Jesus at eight.
Exactly.
Exactly.
I get it.
I get it.
You talked about Christianity, but then,you said "saved" and I'm curious what
that means to you and like where youfeel you are on the, I don't know if
it's a spectrum or if it's just finite.
You know, you're saved or you're not.
Where do you stand on that?
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I feel like it's more soa cycle versus a spectrum.
Cause the spectrum is linear.
A cycle is continuous.
So there's always different points.
You see what I'm saying?
Like it's more like circular.
Am I losing you?
No, I keep talking.
I'm picturing.
So we have a circle instead of a line andin that circle we have ebbs and flows.
So like my walk with Christ hasn'talways been linear or the same, or
like everything is peaches and cream.
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But I always come back around to thatoriginal point of like, why accepting
salvation, you know, why I'm choosingto live this Christ like life now is
every moment in that circle the same?
No, but we, it alwayscomes back around to it.
I don't know that...
No, it does.
And I guess when I have, I guess whatyou would call different points on
the cycle where I don't feel as savedor I don't feel as close to God.
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I guess to me, it's like, are youstill saved in those moments or
like, did you lose it and regain it?
Or does it not matter kind ofwhere you are on the circle?
You still have that status and isit something you can just claim
and have it going forward without?
I guess for me, it's like it's like sayingyou in shape, you can be in shape one day,
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but the next day you still have to choose.
To live a healthy lifestyle and do thethings that for me and my faith walk, I've
gone months without exercise and thosespiritual muscles are those same muscles.
In hindsight, I'm like, well,maybe I wasn't for that season.
But I don't know.
It's one of those thingsthat's hard to really
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But I feel like there's even beautyin that because it's like, even in
those, like, moments where you don'tfeel as close to God or, like, as
saved, which I personally don't think.
I think once you make thatdecision, like, you're cool,
you're good, you're in the game.
Really?
In my opinion.
This is my opinion.
I don't know if it's a scriptureor not, but it's my opinion.
Let me state that.
But I think even in the times where,like, you're, you don't feel as close
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to God, the fact that you can feel thatconviction is your confirmation that you
are still saved, if that makes, like,you're not numb, like, that's the Holy
Spirit telling you, hey, like, you donestrayed a little too far, let's come
on back home, you know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
And I mean, if we're getting to likethe word, you know that people always
go back to confess and believe, right.
And I think the confess fitsneatly into, all right, I got
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saved on July 5th, you know, 2000,whatever, but that believe for me,
some days, some months, some years,other days, especially when I look
at, you know, and you're not supposedto let the world, you know, move
you so much, but you see certainthings and it makes it harder for me.
And so, you know, the, the savedproposition, that's why I love that
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this thing is called Saved-ish.
That's why I love that.
We kind of acknowledge that.
It wavers.
That you may not everbe all the way there.
Yeah, I guess for me, it's the belief partwhere I don't know if I'm always saved
and it's always something I have to kindof come back to and sometimes that takes
a lot longer than than I wish it did.
Yeah, that's fair.
But I feel like that's also, I guess,playing beauty in the ashes again.
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It's like that highlights God'spatience with us, even in times where
we doubt him or we're like, you know,not unsure about maybe what we believe
or what he can do in our lives.
Like, he still finds a way to confirmhim, confirm himself, his word
and show his love and compassion.
And even in those doubtful moments, youknow, so he's like, I understand, you
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know, you may be questioning me, butI proved myself over and over again.
And he doesn't have to, he really doesn't.
He can just be like,I'm God and that's it.
Deal with it, but he's patientenough with us to do that.
So am I the only onethat has these doubts?
No.
I feel like you're like the therapistand you're giving me the comfort and
reassure me so I'm wondering if youyou know, I've had those those seasons
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those moments or episodes in your life.
We're like, ah You know, it's gotreal, you know, no pun intended,
but like life got hard andyou may be strayed away a bit.
Yeah, my junior year in college, I feellike I completely strayed away from God.
I mean, not completely, like,I still believe in God and
stuff like that, but like.
My devotions were withhim were non existent.
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I wasn't coming to church and if Iwas, I was logging in and like doing
something else in the background.
So church was just white noise.
It was no intentionality behindmy relationship with him.
So and there were a lot of things thatI did become numb to because of the
lack of exercise in that muscle or likebeing in communion with God constantly.
And you know, when you straythat far away, I guess it's
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kind of like, I don't know.
I don't know if you've ever been to likeSeaWorld, but it's like the splash zones.
Like you sit far enough in theback, like you can't feel the
splash, but if you're in the front.
No.
Let me make it make sense.
That was a strange analogy.
Like, straying that far away fromGod, if he's like, you know, if I'm
not in a splash zone, I don't feellike if there's like the Holy Spirit,
like, Hey, conviction, I'm not feelingit because I've strayed so far.
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I'm not in the splash zone.
Does that make sense?
I think so.
And I think it reminds me of, youknow, and earlier I talked about the
break we took, you know, during COVIDwhen we got in like stay at home mode.
I went from going to church on a regularbasis to streaming church to sometimes
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streaming church to It's been a few weekssince I've even thought about church.
And I think that probably contributedto the fact that the podcast
took a break among all the otherthings, you know, people were,
were not able to meet in person.
But selfishly, I think that's oneof the reasons I'm excited about the
podcast coming back because it servedas like something to, to make me
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tighten up in terms of my faith walk.
Like I'm not a preacher.
I'm not in any ministries.
I can't sing, I don't dance really butthis forces me to like jump into my Bible
and have conversations like this, thateven though I'm often like expressing
doubt or some of the things that areuncomfortable about my faith walk,
they usually bring me closer to God.
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And so I am excited to be back on it.
So how would you say you dealt with..
You said the podcast kind of, like,gave you excitement to kind of
start back up being more, I guess,disciplined in your faith walk.
So the break between thosethree years, like, did you
notice a difference right away?
Was there a difference?
How did you stay steadfast?
Like, how did you handle all that?
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Yeah, I definitely, I think, like Isaid, that first, probably year post
last episode of Saved-ish, I wasn'tactively engaged in my faith at all.
And I, you know, I jokedearlier, I had a pretty.
convenient excuse of, you know, myyoungest daughter was born into 2020.
So we had, you know, anewborn and a two year old.
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And so that was pretty much my excuse,not to do anything I didn't want to do.
And it took a while for me to realizethat I was kind of longing for those
relationships with the people at churchin any way, you know, even Bible study.
I used to really love our Biblestudies, but that kind of fell off.
And it was never the same over Zoom,and so I just kind of stopped attending.
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But after a while, I definitely feltthat weight of, you need to come back.
Especially with all thestuff going on in the world.
And I watch a lot of news.
I listen to podcasts about all the stuffgoing on in the world, and that can
make you question your faith even more.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
So like I moved away, of course,from home for college, and you're
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exposed to so much, especiallygoing Howard, like you're in D.
C.
There is just such a stark difference fromlittle old Baton Rouge and growing up in a
Christian school and Christian household.
And it was like, Whoa, youknow, like you believe this?
And then like, especially whenpeople start to talk about what they
believe and it kind of makes sense.
I'm like, Huh?
Yeah, you know, and thenthey like question you.
Well, why do you believe what you believe?
Well, I have been told this my whole life.
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Do I really believe this?
You know, and then I feel like that's howGod really comes in and he's like, okay,
well, let me tell you why you believelike, I know you've kind of been like
coached or you've been like exposed tome all your life, but once he gets you
separated from that comfortable nest,that's where he can really grow your
relationship with him versus leaningon grandma's prayers and mama's faith
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and all that kind of other stuff.
So I guess kind of just like nesting untilyou can spread your own wings to fly.
Yeah, and I think about that a lot likeif I wasn't born in the city and in the
environment that I was where I was, youknow, introduced to God early and that
kind of grew as my parents' relationshipwith God grew, would I even be here?
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Would I be believe in this orwould I have found another path
that just felt more true to me.
And then just in general, I havedoubts rooted in that, like, okay,
if I was born in a different country,none of this would exist in my world.
And I would've probably foundsomething that I feel as strongly
as I do about my faith, that'ssomething completely different.
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Yeah, yeah.
And like you said, you go to college,you get introduced to all the other ways
and people are really good at framingtheir thing in a way that makes a lot
of sense and discrediting your thing.
You know one person that I watch alot to get news from is Bill Maher
and he's like an avid atheist.
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He pokes fun at anybody who hasany religion, but he is smart.
You know, like, he's,he's very charismatic.
He's good at buildinga case for something.
And so sometimes when I watch him, like,I feel a little like naive or like,
yeah, why would I believe X, Y, and Z?
And I have to kind of remindmyself what my foundation is, and
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then remind myself, like, I don'tknow what his life looks like.
Like he might be miserable and justtrying to bring people to that place.
Yeah, but it is something Ideal with on a regular basis.
But I think we wanted to use thisto introduce you to the viewers,
to the listeners and also just kindof get us ready for what I think is
going to be a really exciting season.
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We're going to be talking about somevery timely things, elections, war heavy
stuff, but things that I think, and Iactually have had people express to me
that they miss the podcast because of,and they would like to hear it kind of
framed and discussed by people who arebelievers, but not necessarily preachers.
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And so I'm excited to provide thatto our people and welcome again.
Glad be here.
I like to talk anyway,so why not do it for God?
All right, guys.
Thank you for listeningto the Saved-ish podcast.
You can follow us on Instagram,Twitter, also known as X now,
and YouTube at SavedishPod, andthat's all one word SavedishPod.
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And we hope that this conversationhas been fruitful, and we look forward
to growing to the next episode.
Y'all tune in for the next one.
We've got some treats.
Welcome to the Saved-ish Podcast,where we have conversations about
being young, Christian and imperfect.
Before we get into this thing, I wantto acknowledge the elephant in the room.
About three years ago, we recorded anddropped an episode Money Moves, where
we talked about how to manage your moneywhile also, staying true to your faith.
And then we went on pretty much athree and a half year break and we
(00:42):
did not really tell you guys about it.
We ghosted you, and I justwant to acknowledge that.
I want to take, you know, therighteous approach to this thing and
be the Christian that I'm supposedto be and blame it on my kids.
I have two kids and when you have twokids, three years ago by like that.
(01:03):
And so let's just be real.
It wasn't that long, for the peoplewho DM'ed me, not Saved-ish, me, to
tell me that they wanted the pod back.
I heard you.
I appreciate you guys.
And, and in all seriousness, we aresorry for the lack of communication,
but we are excited that we are back.
With that said, I do want to acknowledgethat Kiana will not be a co host anymore.
(01:26):
She has a ton of things goingon, including her amazing
business, Kickin' It With Ki.
She's doing it really bigin the mindfulness space.
And so I definitely encourage you allto support her in any way that you can.
But yeah, we're back.
And so I'm excited and I would loveto introduce you all to somebody
very special, our brand new cohost.
(01:46):
Someone who was born in a year thatstarts with two, which is crazy.
Katelyn so Katelyn, hi,welcome to Savedish.
I'm excited to have you here.
I know we've had our conversations,we've connected, but I definitely
want you to have your moment tointroduce yourself to the people
so they know who's talking to them.
First of all, not too much on the year.
Yes, I was born in 2001.
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But you also were born in the eighties.
But yeah.
Hey y'all.
My name is Katelyn Robertson.
I'm a student at Howard.
I'm originally fromBaton Rouge, Louisiana.
And I've been going to Bethel since 2019.
So yeah, that's a little bit about me.
All right, Louisiana, 2019.
The podcast is called Saved-ish.
So let's talk about it.
Walk me through your faith walk upto this point and kind of help me
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understand like where you are now.
And I'll do some kind of catchingup because I know not everybody used
to listen or used to watch, becausewe got cameras now, which is crazy.
And so I'll also chime in and make surepeople know what I'm up to as well.
Yeah.
So my faith walk started pretty early.
I started, I guess, pursuing Christianityand salvation around like five or six.
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My dad, he's a minister.
So grew up in the church,that church, very often.
And he ironically was over thekids ministry, so I'd be begging
to get baptized every Sunday andhe'd be like, no, like, what is
your purpose in getting baptized?
Just get dipped in water?
Well, that's not good enough, you know?
And so, like, he really took the timeto talk to me about what salvation is,
and that's recognizing how Jesus diedfor our sins because of the love that
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he has for us and his obedience to theFather and how we can accept that gift
for free and have eternal life in Him.
Which is a big concept to understand,I guess, for a five or six year old.
But if you break it down simpleit's really also not that hard for a
five or six year old to understand.
So yeah, so I guess that'slike the initial start of
my faith walk with Christ.
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And then from there, it's just beenlike different levels of like getting
to know Him in different aspectsthrough trials, through good times and,
you know, different facets like that.
That's awesome.
So you think that at five or six, likeyou made a conscious decision to give your
life to the Lord and you don't feel atall like you were pressured or kind of, I
don't know, I want to be sensitive, right?
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Because, you know, I'm raising children.
I want to make sure they know, knowGod, but also want to balance it a bit,
you know, to not force them into it.
Because I know personally, I don'tknow that my real relationship with
God began until I was probably 18, 19in college and I had stopped going to
church with my parents and I decidedthis was something I needed for myself.
(04:17):
And so I'm wondering how at fiveor six versus now, like, looks
different in terms of your faith walk.
Yeah.
I feel like I definitelywasn't pressured into it.
It's my parents, the way they revealedchristianity and salvation to me is
like this is what God has done for us.
This is how we accepted it.
This is our relationship with Christand of course like we would love
for you to also accept that giftbecause of the love we have for you
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and we know how great the gift is.
But it wasn't like you have to be youknow a Christian like you have to be saved
so I think in that liberty and freedomI was able to really like digest it for
myself even more so at a young age.
I think the second part to answer thatquestion would be more like having
an early calling in my life you know,the whole part of being sanctified
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and set apart and God wanted to use mefrom a young age in different spaces.
I feel like I needed to be called at ayoung age or I needed to be exposed to
it early and accept the gift of salvationso that he couldn't use me, growing up.
So, were you like the kid who like ledthe choir and preached sermons and stuff?
I was that kid, leadingdevotions and standing...
There was the corner of Lobdell and...
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I can't remember the other corner,but it was right by my church.
And on Saturday mornings me andmy dad and another minister at my
church would park at the corner.
We had signs that said like,honk if you love Jesus and
pull over if you want prayer.
And like, I would like literally sitthere and pray with people and for
people what they were going through.
And I was like eight or nine doing that,which sounds crazy, but I just was that
kid, like, I just love Jesus so much.
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It sounds a little crazy.
It does sound crazy.
I know.
On the block for Jesus at eight.
Exactly.
Exactly.
I get it.
I get it.
You talked about Christianity, but then,you said "saved" and I'm curious what
that means to you and like where youfeel you are on the, I don't know if
it's a spectrum or if it's just finite.
You know, you're saved or you're not.
Where do you stand on that?
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I feel like it's more soa cycle versus a spectrum.
Cause the spectrum is linear.
A cycle is continuous.
So there's always different points.
You see what I'm saying?
Like it's more like circular.
Am I losing you?
No, I keep talking.
I'm picturing.
So we have a circle instead of a line andin that circle we have ebbs and flows.
So like my walk with Christ hasn'talways been linear or the same, or
like everything is peaches and cream.
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But I always come back around to thatoriginal point of like, why accepting
salvation, you know, why I'm choosingto live this Christ like life now is
every moment in that circle the same?
No, but we, it alwayscomes back around to it.
I don't know that...
No, it does.
And I guess when I have, I guess whatyou would call different points on
the cycle where I don't feel as savedor I don't feel as close to God.
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I guess to me, it's like, are youstill saved in those moments or
like, did you lose it and regain it?
Or does it not matter kind ofwhere you are on the circle?
You still have that status and isit something you can just claim
and have it going forward without?
I guess for me, it's like it's like sayingyou in shape, you can be in shape one day,
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but the next day you still have to choose.
To live a healthy lifestyle and do thethings that for me and my faith walk, I've
gone months without exercise and thosespiritual muscles are those same muscles.
In hindsight, I'm like, well,maybe I wasn't for that season.
But I don't know.
It's one of those thingsthat's hard to really
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But I feel like there's even beautyin that because it's like, even in
those, like, moments where you don'tfeel as close to God or, like, as
saved, which I personally don't think.
I think once you make thatdecision, like, you're cool,
you're good, you're in the game.
Really?
In my opinion.
This is my opinion.
I don't know if it's a scriptureor not, but it's my opinion.
Let me state that.
But I think even in the times where,like, you're, you don't feel as close
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to God, the fact that you can feel thatconviction is your confirmation that you
are still saved, if that makes, like,you're not numb, like, that's the Holy
Spirit telling you, hey, like, you donestrayed a little too far, let's come
on back home, you know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
And I mean, if we're getting to likethe word, you know that people always
go back to confess and believe, right.
And I think the confess fitsneatly into, all right, I got
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saved on July 5th, you know, 2000,whatever, but that believe for me,
some days, some months, some years,other days, especially when I look
at, you know, and you're not supposedto let the world, you know, move
you so much, but you see certainthings and it makes it harder for me.
And so, you know, the, the savedproposition, that's why I love that
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this thing is called Saved-ish.
That's why I love that.
We kind of acknowledge that.
It wavers.
That you may not everbe all the way there.
Yeah, I guess for me, it's the belief partwhere I don't know if I'm always saved
and it's always something I have to kindof come back to and sometimes that takes
a lot longer than than I wish it did.
Yeah, that's fair.
But I feel like that's also, I guess,playing beauty in the ashes again.
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It's like that highlights God'spatience with us, even in times where
we doubt him or we're like, you know,not unsure about maybe what we believe
or what he can do in our lives.
Like, he still finds a way to confirmhim, confirm himself, his word
and show his love and compassion.
And even in those doubtful moments, youknow, so he's like, I understand, you
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know, you may be questioning me, butI proved myself over and over again.
And he doesn't have to, he really doesn't.
He can just be like,I'm God and that's it.
Deal with it, but he's patientenough with us to do that.
So am I the only onethat has these doubts?
No.
I feel like you're like the therapistand you're giving me the comfort and
reassure me so I'm wondering if youyou know, I've had those those seasons
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those moments or episodes in your life.
We're like, ah You know, it's gotreal, you know, no pun intended,
but like life got hard andyou may be strayed away a bit.
Yeah, my junior year in college, I feellike I completely strayed away from God.
I mean, not completely, like,I still believe in God and
stuff like that, but like.
My devotions were withhim were non existent.
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I wasn't coming to church and if Iwas, I was logging in and like doing
something else in the background.
So church was just white noise.
It was no intentionality behindmy relationship with him.
So and there were a lot of things thatI did become numb to because of the
lack of exercise in that muscle or likebeing in communion with God constantly.
And you know, when you straythat far away, I guess it's
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kind of like, I don't know.
I don't know if you've ever been to likeSeaWorld, but it's like the splash zones.
Like you sit far enough in theback, like you can't feel the
splash, but if you're in the front.
No.
Let me make it make sense.
That was a strange analogy.
Like, straying that far away fromGod, if he's like, you know, if I'm
not in a splash zone, I don't feellike if there's like the Holy Spirit,
like, Hey, conviction, I'm not feelingit because I've strayed so far.
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I'm not in the splash zone.
Does that make sense?
I think so.
And I think it reminds me of, youknow, and earlier I talked about the
break we took, you know, during COVIDwhen we got in like stay at home mode.
I went from going to church on a regularbasis to streaming church to sometimes
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streaming church to It's been a few weekssince I've even thought about church.
And I think that probably contributedto the fact that the podcast
took a break among all the otherthings, you know, people were,
were not able to meet in person.
But selfishly, I think that's oneof the reasons I'm excited about the
podcast coming back because it servedas like something to, to make me
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tighten up in terms of my faith walk.
Like I'm not a preacher.
I'm not in any ministries.
I can't sing, I don't dance really butthis forces me to like jump into my Bible
and have conversations like this, thateven though I'm often like expressing
doubt or some of the things that areuncomfortable about my faith walk,
they usually bring me closer to God.
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And so I am excited to be back on it.
So how would you say you dealt with..
You said the podcast kind of, like,gave you excitement to kind of
start back up being more, I guess,disciplined in your faith walk.
So the break between thosethree years, like, did you
notice a difference right away?
Was there a difference?
How did you stay steadfast?
Like, how did you handle all that?
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Yeah, I definitely, I think, like Isaid, that first, probably year post
last episode of Saved-ish, I wasn'tactively engaged in my faith at all.
And I, you know, I jokedearlier, I had a pretty.
convenient excuse of, you know, myyoungest daughter was born into 2020.
So we had, you know, anewborn and a two year old.
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And so that was pretty much my excuse,not to do anything I didn't want to do.
And it took a while for me to realizethat I was kind of longing for those
relationships with the people at churchin any way, you know, even Bible study.
I used to really love our Biblestudies, but that kind of fell off.
And it was never the same over Zoom,and so I just kind of stopped attending.
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But after a while, I definitely feltthat weight of, you need to come back.
Especially with all thestuff going on in the world.
And I watch a lot of news.
I listen to podcasts about all the stuffgoing on in the world, and that can
make you question your faith even more.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
So like I moved away, of course,from home for college, and you're
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exposed to so much, especiallygoing Howard, like you're in D.
C.
There is just such a stark difference fromlittle old Baton Rouge and growing up in a
Christian school and Christian household.
And it was like, Whoa, youknow, like you believe this?
And then like, especially whenpeople start to talk about what they
believe and it kind of makes sense.
I'm like, Huh?
Yeah, you know, and thenthey like question you.
Well, why do you believe what you believe?
Well, I have been told this my whole life.
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Do I really believe this?
You know, and then I feel like that's howGod really comes in and he's like, okay,
well, let me tell you why you believelike, I know you've kind of been like
coached or you've been like exposed tome all your life, but once he gets you
separated from that comfortable nest,that's where he can really grow your
relationship with him versus leaningon grandma's prayers and mama's faith
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and all that kind of other stuff.
So I guess kind of just like nesting untilyou can spread your own wings to fly.
Yeah, and I think about that a lot likeif I wasn't born in the city and in the
environment that I was where I was, youknow, introduced to God early and that
kind of grew as my parents' relationshipwith God grew, would I even be here?
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Would I be believe in this orwould I have found another path
that just felt more true to me.
And then just in general, I havedoubts rooted in that, like, okay,
if I was born in a different country,none of this would exist in my world.
And I would've probably foundsomething that I feel as strongly
as I do about my faith, that'ssomething completely different.
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Yeah, yeah.
And like you said, you go to college,you get introduced to all the other ways
and people are really good at framingtheir thing in a way that makes a lot
of sense and discrediting your thing.
You know one person that I watch alot to get news from is Bill Maher
and he's like an avid atheist.
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He pokes fun at anybody who hasany religion, but he is smart.
You know, like, he's,he's very charismatic.
He's good at buildinga case for something.
And so sometimes when I watch him, like,I feel a little like naive or like,
yeah, why would I believe X, Y, and Z?
And I have to kind of remindmyself what my foundation is, and
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then remind myself, like, I don'tknow what his life looks like.
Like he might be miserable and justtrying to bring people to that place.
Yeah, but it is something Ideal with on a regular basis.
But I think we wanted to use thisto introduce you to the viewers,
to the listeners and also just kindof get us ready for what I think is
going to be a really exciting season.
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We're going to be talking about somevery timely things, elections, war heavy
stuff, but things that I think, and Iactually have had people express to me
that they miss the podcast because of,and they would like to hear it kind of
framed and discussed by people who arebelievers, but not necessarily preachers.
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And so I'm excited to provide thatto our people and welcome again.
Glad be here.
I like to talk anyway,so why not do it for God?
All right, guys.
Thank you for listeningto the Saved-ish podcast.
You can follow us on Instagram,Twitter, also known as X now,
and YouTube at SavedishPod, andthat's all one word SavedishPod.
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And we hope that this conversationhas been fruitful, and we look forward
to growing to the next episode.
Y'all tune in for the next one.
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