Blerd Trek: Unlocking Sci-Fi Cinema - Dive Deep with CinnCine's Subrina Wood! - Scene N Nerd

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>> Will (00:17):
Greetings nerds, fellow Trekkers, Blerds
and Trekkies and everyone in between. This
is Will Polk, host of Scene N Nerd Presents Blerd Trek. And
I'm very, very excited tonight to have with me
Sabrina Wood from the Sci Fi Sisters and
also host of the CinnCine
Go Sci Fi podcast. So welcome to, welcome to

(00:37):
the show. It's good to meet you.

>> Sabrina Wood (00:39):
Thank you, thank you. I'm really excited to be here,
Will.

>> Will (00:43):
Yeah, yeah, I know. before we were recording we were
talking about various comic cons and, and,
and some of the, the movie that you're going to be kicking
off your, I guess, second season about. But we'll get into that in
a little bit, as we, you know, go deeper into the
conversation tonight. But yeah, so yeah, thank
you, to your, to your team for reaching out, to do this

(01:03):
collaboration. Really excited to, to do this with you
and you know, enjoyed watching, Sci
Fi Sisters. you guys are, are, you know, as far
as obviously we all have Star Trek in common but also
other other things in the genre as well. And you
guys are very, very well known
quantity, out there people. you know,

(01:23):
you know you have everyone from Anson
Mount.

We are. Right.

>> Will (01:30):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly.
yeah, I know you had Terry, Farrell recently again
celebrating the celebration DS9.

she is so nice. Yes. That was so funny because when
she came on we do we use Streamyard also
and when she came on we just all started
fan girling. It was just horrible.

>> Will (01:51):
Yeah. Yeah.

Dax is here just. She is, you know,
she's somebody that, she's just like. You think she's
going to be just funny, nice,
beautiful, just so much fun
to have her in the room. Great energy. I love
her.

>> Will (02:10):
Yeah. Yeah, that, yeah. You know, given that we, we're just
a few days removed from celebrating the 32nd
anniversary of Deep Space Nine. it's you know.
Yeah yeah, I I did a rewatch of the, of the,
of the Emissary. It's just. Oh,
those m. Those milestone like
episodes or events in Trek

(02:31):
history, you know, you gotta, you gotta like
you know, gotta take time to, to, to re.
Watch and you know the thing that Well, before
I jump into my thoughts. What, what is it? Let me ask you.
Which version of Trek is your favorite version of track or
favorite series?

See, I have problems with this all the time because as I
was, we were talking a little earlier and I am an original,
I'm an OG girl. Like I am the 10 year
old that saw the first
episode of Star Trek. So,
Kirk is my guy, you know, TOS is it. I
mean, I've seen that like 29 bazillion

(03:06):
times. But then Deep Space Nine
comes out and rocks my world. And we have, you know,
Captain Cisco's like, that's a whole nother story.
So he's in my heart too. And then we have my
girl. So Nequa Martin Green coming in there. It's Captain Burnham.
So I, I can't pick a franchise. I. Those are
my three, those are my things, you know,

(03:26):
where I really feel an affinity
to the captain, let's put it that way. I mean, it
shows. Yes, I love all three shows, but those
three particular captains,
man. Yeah, I would go, I would follow. they
said, you know, you know, are we gonna go? We're gonna get court martial.
I would be like, yeah, I'm going.

>> Will (03:47):
He'll be like, Kirk. Whenever he stole the Enterprise In Star Trek 3,
it's like, yep, I'll be.

Right on the ship. Yep.

>> Will (03:53):
Yeah, just be like, sulu, am I. Give us the word.

And yeah, I'm like, burn them. Let's go. Let's go through
the whole wormhole. Let's go. 900. Yep, 900 years.
Let's go, girl. Where we going?

>> Will (04:03):
Yeah, for real, for real. Yeah. You know, for me, you
know, TOS definitely has a special place in my heart because
that's, you know, I, I was a kid growing up
in the syndicated world. so of course watching the
shows in the evenings, you know, they had the local
TV station had their, you know, either it was
either 7:00 at night or sometimes,

(04:24):
or 11 or 11:30 after the late local news.
And they would have, they had actually had.

In Boston.

>> Will (04:30):
Yeah. And, and they had actually had a set
built, for the show. And,
and, and so they had a, they had a host, and he
would introduce the episodes. Yeah, this was in, this
is in Charlotte and and, yeah,
wbtv. And they would have H A
Thompson, he would like, host the show

(04:50):
and introduce the episode and, and
then, have a little break and. Yeah, so that was, that was my
experience growing up.

That is very different. I've never heard any city
doing it that way. I've seen her, I've heard cities like, you
know, being faithful and playing it. But had
a set in a host.

>> Will (05:08):
Yeah, but, but the thing for me
was with the original series is once
we got, you know, once you got the, once we got our first,
vcr and you Know, we're able to, like,
go to Blockbuster or whatever, the local video store to rent
them. I never realized how chopped up those.
Those things were, those old
episodes until I was able to watch the

(05:30):
uncut versions on
VHS tapes. you know, and used
to.

Used to drive me crazy because I saw the original
full versions when they went into
syndication. You know, you usually didn't get the opening, the cold
open. They cut that out. And then they would shorten
a lot of scenes. So sometimes I would go, wait a minute. Didn't this
thing start differently the last time? And then by the time, you know,
you watch syndication so much you forgot about it.

(05:56):
And then, you know, come around now and you're
seeing it in streaming and it's like, oh, they've repl. They fixed it.
They gave me all of it back again. And some of it you hadn't seen in
years. But I tell you a funny story about taping
it, because like, like I said, I. I saw the. The originals in
all those years when it was. Yeah,
my girlfriend went into, the Peace Corps, and she was

(06:16):
stationed in Ghana, Africa, and we
would send her care packages. And I remember once
taping with a cassette tape, you know, taking the little
microphone, putting it up to the speakers of the television and
taping the audio of a Star Trek
episode and putting the cassette in box with, you
know, toilet paper and tuna fish and whatever else we send

(06:36):
in her and mailing it over. And don't, you know,
when she came back from Ghana, she said, you don't know
how many times we listened to that tape
you sent over of Star Trek. She said it went
to all of the volunteers that were stationed
all near her, you know, and now when I'm thinking of it, it
sounds like, you know, hi, Bob. You know, like,

(06:58):
you know, they have this one. I don't
remember what episode it was, but they were all
so grateful for that. That cassette that we
made of Star Trek.

>> Will (07:08):
Yeah.

Crazy.

>> Will (07:10):
Yeah. Ah, I mean, that's, you know, that's. That. That's the thing about this
fan base. It's just so, so passionate and so.
And people just figure out so many ways and, you know, and I
love how all of us have our, Our
entry points into Star Trek, whether
it's someone like you who, you know, grew up, literally
grew up on the original series. Someone like me

(07:30):
who came along, you know, late 70s, early
80s, watching the thing.

Original series, but I still grew up.

>> Will (07:38):
On the original series. but, yeah, yeah,
but, but, yeah, but Deep Space Nine is my favorite and
one thing I noticed when I was watching the the
Emissary again is
just how so the. How
they just laid that that foundation. And,
and then when you think about what to leave behind when we do

(07:58):
get full circle at the end with the closing of the series,
how how just perfectly contained
the. That series. That series really really was.
And, and and I'm glad that people
are, are discovering it now.
Oh ah. You know, because it was always sort of.
And it's still some. To some degree you

(08:18):
know, the, the redheaded stepchild of the franchise because
this it is so different.
But but at the same time I was just like, you know, one, I
hold the pilot holds up really really well. But
two, just how how really how
beginning, middle and end that that series really had.
And and I'm glad to see them you know give some love now like

(08:38):
Lower decks and some other some of the new track. But Yeah, but that,
that's the DS9 is my favorite one.

You know, even though you mentioned that if, you
know. Yeah it's funny that you mentioned that
holding up really well because I think it is one of the shows that
you can watch now. You know, they're all, you know,
decades years old now. that
you don't find so much cringe
as you find in some of the old other series where they'll
say something or there's some scene or something and you're like

(09:06):
what were they thinking when they made this one?
And, and I can't really think of
a episode where you saying
that in a DS9 where you're just like, oh,
they got it so wrong. Yeah.

>> Will (09:20):
Yeah. There are no, there are no cos of honor in
DS9.

Thank you. Thank you so much, my brother.

>> Will (09:27):
Oh my God. Yeah yeah, we're gonna talk
about that.

Listen to the Sci Fi Sisters. we got a surprise for
you about that one.

>> Will (09:35):
Okay, I'll have to look that one up. I think I'll have to look that
episode up. But but speaking of the Sci Fi sisters, let's talk
about your, your spin off show because that's why we
we're here. I know you're starting your, your upcoming season.
and I listened to most, I've listened to most of the
first season of Cine Cine. Cine was it.
How's it Senna Cine Cin

(09:55):
C. Okay.

Double sin
squared.

>> Will (10:01):
Yeah. Since squared. I got it right to think the first time. But
But yeah. So yeah. So Sabrina, let
me just tell me how what inspired you to
do this spin off show, from the
sci fi.

I tell you. Well, Simpsons is short
for the Cinnamon Cinephile, which is
a, you know, avatar I created
about, oh, five, or six. A couple, maybe a couple of years
before I met up with the rest of the sci fi sisters.
So. So I have been a film buff
since time began. Like before Star
Trek, I was. I wanted to.

(10:36):
I watched like every Humphrey Bogart movie. I watched any kind of
classic movie. My mother loved film. She named me
after the movie Sabrina with Audrey Hepburn.
even though I got a U instead of an A. Yeah, I was named after
that movie. And she told me all the time and when it came on tv,
just she and I would watch that thing and, oh my God, I love
Audrey Burn. So I grew up loving films

(10:56):
and Boston, was a great town
because we had a lot of movie theaters. That whole, you
know, rebirth of the 30 films came out when I was
in college, maybe, you know, in the Brattle Theater.
And we had the Orson Wells. We had all these theaters that were showing all
these old school ball comedies. So I was just
into it. And then, Way lady and I went off and became

(11:16):
an accountant. So, you know, there you go. I had to get a job.
but later I
always had. It was. I remember, quite frankly, this is how
it happened. I was getting divorced and
I was really. That's just like, not in a good place. And my
girlfriend said, think of something that you've
done all your life that you really enjoy, that you would
do without getting paid. And I was like, watch

(11:39):
movies. I would. That's what I would do without being
paid. She said, well, what can you do about watching movies? And
I said, well, I could, I could write about them, I could talk about
them, you know, And Internet had come out by then, kids. yeah, the
Internet had come out by this time. So I,
Yeah, I think I started just kind of like posting
about movies. And then, my girlfriend and

(12:00):
I was sitting there like, you know, I gotta get a name. I can't just keep doing this at
Sabrina and all that. And then we, were sitting around and I
said, I'm a real cinephile. And then we were trying to think of
names, you know, colors. I wanted something that people would know
automatically that I was black when you heard the name. And so
we said, we came up with Cinnamon File.
And that was the
birth of the Cinnamon Cinema.

(12:22):
So started with a Facebook page.
Yeah, you know, then I just started
like, you know, writing a blog and then I had
my own podcast. And, and then
I met, then Discovery came out and I met the rest of the sisters
and we, you know, we just kind of went sci fi and I,
I kind of let the movie thing die,

(12:42):
because it was a lot of work putting the Sci Fi sisters out there.

>> Will (12:45):
Yeah.

And, we were thinking about doing a YouTube channel.
And, you know, I said to, the rest of the sisters, I said, well, you
know, would you guys mind if I kind of like
resurrected the cinnamon cinephile thing and brought it over
to Sci Fi sisters? They were like,
we were waiting for you to figure it out.
so we just kind of, instead of making it classic, we switched it

(13:07):
to sci fi and cut it to Simpson, and
here I am. So that's what happened.

>> Will (13:13):
Yeah. Yeah. So how so
given, given that you're a huge film buff and we, when you were talking
about that, I couldn't help but think, I know recently I, think I was
sober. Denzel Washington was talking about some of the great
directors. And, you know, he has a theater background
and he's really not much of a movie buff, you know,
whenever he, with his career.
And but now he's like, I think

(13:35):
he's wanting to get more directing and stuff and he's, you know, he's starting to
branch out into that. So thinking about you
as a film fan and, you know, who are some of
your favorite filmmakers as far as
directors? I know, of course you, you
mentioned, you know, you're named after Sci.

Fi or in general?

>> Will (13:53):
Just, both in general and in sci fi.

Oh, okay. Well, the first
director that always comes up, it's William Wyler. I
know people are going to say, who but
William Wyler? I, I, When I was in college,
the very first film class I ever took, we had a
professor named Ken Happy. And I went to the College of the Holy
Cross in Worcester, Massachusetts. Yay, Saders.

(14:16):
And he had a class on
William Wyler. And, you know, he
made the Little Foxes with Bette Davis. He made the Best Years of
Our Lives with Scene N Andrews, all these great films. And
William, oh my God, I was in there. He made the
Heiress with,
Montgomery Cliff.

(14:36):
I went into this class because, you know, it
wasn't even for credit, if I'm not mistaken. No, it was no credit. It was
like a three hour on Wednesday night at school, like
we're gonna do, we were in there and we, we were in
a little film, you know, like a studio, and they
would, he would show the movie and Talk about it. And I just
lost my mind. So William Wyler would probably

(14:57):
be, my top number one. And after that
is Alfred Hitchcock for sure. you
know, Rebecca and all that stuff. But of the
new ones, I really like Christopher Nolan.
If, if Christopher Nolan has made the movie, I'm
going to see it. That's. I don't care
how complicated it gets or how
disbelief it is. I mean, I'm, I'm there for

(15:19):
him. That's. That's it. So I, I love that.
I love that guy. But, yeah, so those are my, those are my big
three right there.

>> Will (15:27):
Cool. Cool.

I. You know, I just saw the, the six six,
Triple eight with Tyler Perry. I so want to like him, but
Good lord.

>> Will (15:34):
Yeah.

That movie was okay. That's okay.

>> Will (15:37):
Yeah.

Trying to think of somebody else, but yeah.
Oh, well.

>> Will (15:40):
Yeah.

Now wait a minute. Let's go back. Jordan Peele.

>> Will (15:45):
Yeah.

Nope.

>> Will (15:48):
I did too. I did too. That was such an under
appreciated film.

M. People just didn't get it.

>> Will (15:56):
I don't think so. Yeah, yeah, I, Yeah,
because I saw the trailer and I was just like, okay, this is,
this. I could, I think this is going to be something that I
can, I can really get, get into. And then
when, when I, when I was sitting there in the theater watching it and
just, it just, just pulled me in. and,
and, and, and, and you're right. I think

(16:16):
folks just did not get it. And I know he says, you know,
he's still trying to like, you know, he's such,
you know, his filmography is such that people are still trying
to, you know, get. For him to like, can he,
can he replicate, blanking, on the
title now?

But, yeah, Get Out.

>> Will (16:34):
Exactly.

Yeah, yeah, they're waiting for get out too.

>> Will (16:38):
Yeah, they're waiting for get out too. But yeah, but, but
yeah, you know, but I just, I take each one of his
projects now on his own merit and I think, no, even though
it's no get out, but it's definitely one that I was just like.
Yeah, I, I really enjoyed it. It was definitely one of my
top films of that year. for sure.

Oh, yeah. well, you know. Yeah, it's
like films are so expensive nowadays,
you know, like Ryan Coogler even too, when you think about it.
Ryan, who is an absolutely amazing director
also. they only have like, they have less than a half
dozen films under their belt. I mean, one of his films is
Black Panther, but he's got what, like six, seven

(17:15):
films? This is so expensive. They Take so much
time. It's not like back in the old days that. That I Like
in the, you know, the 40s and 50s, where you were pumping
them out, you could make three films in a year, you know, and.
And you had time to experiment. You had time to do a different
genre. You had time to. Well, let me try it. Let me
m. Try a film noir. Let me try a comedy. Let me try a

(17:35):
love story. But you don't have that. You don't
have that,
luck anymore. What am I. What's the word I'm looking for? You don't have that. That
opportunity anymore. It's like, yeah, people want. People want to know,
what kind of director are you? What kind of film do you make? And
if you make two that are similar, well, you just better keep going, you
know. And if you make something that's off and out of the box, they're like,

(17:56):
whoa, wait a minute. That's not what I was like. I
said, tyler Perry's got it down. He's gonna make the same damn movie over and over and
over again.

>> Will (18:03):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. He knows
it's gonna. If you cash those checks,
he's picking it out.

Just don't go to the movie. But, you know, my boy is. He's doing what
he wants to do. But, you know, but I think
that's one of the sad things about
filmmaking today. They don't have the luxury
of finding out what kind of director they
are and all the different genres. Like, you know, you used
to, you know, if you were at a studio back in the day and they
were just giving you assignments and you could just like, pump out

(18:34):
films, you know, because. Yeah, you know, that's. That's what
you. You're the B list guy. You're making this, you're making that,
you know, but.

>> Will (18:40):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Is that. That's. That.
That's so true. I mean, I think you. You know, people are more
in the lane. I mean, I guess, you know,
when you see, you know, I guess Nolan is sort of, you know, he.
He's at that place now where he can. He can go
whatever direction he wants to go into. So. But,
But for many directors, yeah, I mean, they. They

(19:01):
really are stuck into that place. And then, you
know, it's hard for them to. To. To
jump if you're not artur. You know, then.

Yeah, it's hard for them to get the money to, you know, to.

>> Will (19:12):
Yeah, I mean, I guess that's why I think, you know, with, like,
when you Think. When I think about that, like, a 24, I think, is one of
the studios that does take chances.

Oh, my God, I love them so much.

>> Will (19:22):
Yeah. you know, when you think about the Daniels, you
know, to give. Be able to do, you know, everything
everywhere and some of the other things, and there's some, you
know, there's some hits, there's some misses, but at least they. They're willing to take chances.

On.

>> Will (19:35):
On.

They did the, What was the one with, Oh, my God, I'm
blanking. the Black Panther movie that they did
about m. The brother that was
shot and killed. That one. That was
824.

>> Will (19:48):
Yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah.

It was like, okay. They can turn on a
dime and make things and, you know, okay, I'm
gonna let you go look up this movie because it was an A24 and it was
the craziest movie I ever saw. It was hilarious. Nobody else
will see this movie except my movie Chingu. Girl, if
you're out there listening and you know who you are, the
movie was called Lamb,

(20:13):
and I'm writing it down all I'm gonna say,
lamb, a 24. Watch it.
Give me a call when you've seen it.

>> Will (20:21):
I will do so. I will do so. I will, I will watch it
and I will message you guys and, maybe we'll. Maybe we can do a,
I'll mention to my podcast partner too, and we can see what we can do about
maybe doing a. Maybe. Maybe we can be
like, sabrina, what.

Did you tell me to watch? I mean, I, I have friends that used
to watch it. After I, I told what it was about, they were like, oh, no,
we're not watching that. I was like, oh, no, you got to see this. This movie is
crazy.

>> Will (20:44):
speaking of movies and stuff and, and talking about genres, so
what, you know what, as far as film
critique and sci fi exploration,
you know, because I, you know, looking at some of the titles you've had on your
podcast, you, know, there's it, you know,
you've had everything from Akira to, to
just recently, Blade Runner with David Living, you know, talking about
David Livingston about that. So what, what, how do

(21:07):
you develop that unique blend of the
two as far as just like doing a critique?

Well, it's a combination.
Combination of my favorite movie that I loved when
I was growing up. Usually then the guests will.
Sometimes, you know, when I ask certain people to come on, like for
example, David, Livingston, he.
He was like, I. I want to do Blade Runner. I Was like, well,
of course, Mr. Livingston, whatever you want to
do. same thing with Brandon Schultz, who's from the writers room

(21:35):
of Discovery. He wanted to do Children of Men.
And I'm like, yeah, great. Okay. It wasn't
on my list, but, those are great films. So we, we did
what they wanted to do. So that's probably why I get a weird mix.
Godzilla was mine. Akira was mine.
I, I just love those two movies. And
I, wanted people to

(21:57):
see classic sci fi in my first
season. The stuff that, you know.
Let's go back. You want to talk about a story aging
well? I mean, these movies, like,
them. Like the first giant bug movie
ever made. Yeah, let's do it. Giant
ants in the desert. Yeah.

(22:17):
So, and I think what
I love about these films is that they usually just have, like, one plot.
It's like a giant ant in the desert. We got to kill it or it's going to kill us.
That's it. You know, we're not on any multiple plot.
There's nothing you got to figure out. It's just kill the ants.
I love it. And, and. But they were great stories, and
we did that one with, David Gerald, who wrote

(22:40):
the Trouble with Tribbles, and.
Yeah, and David just broke it down for us. I mean,
he just was into that movie. So, I just
love talking to people that are really knowledgeable about
either screenplays or writing or
directing and getting that
background. I mean, you know, it's fun to talk with your friends about
a movie, but when you talk to somebody who

(23:02):
makes them and has written them, it's.
It's really interesting to see what they see.

>> Will (23:08):
Yeah. Yeah, that was gonna be my next question. It was like, what, you know,
what, what criteria. You answered it. as far as the
criteria used for your, your guest, have you had
it to that point? Have you had any
discussions with your guests that has changed
your perspective on a film?

Yeah. Blade Runner, which is not one of my favorite
films. it had not been until it was picked.
You know, it was, it was not on my list. And I don't, I, I,
I've seen it, you know, and I was like, okay,
but doing my own research on it.
And then even. And when we were talking, I was talking to
David, it was, I said something, and like, I said, well, did you think he

(23:45):
really was. Because I was still figuring out things while
when I was talking to him. So, you know, that
movie was fairly.
That was a, that was a good one. I really enjoyed that because
I wasn't playing. That was, I was learning all these new things about
that film, and it was. I was really impressed with that film.

>> Will (24:03):
Yeah.

You know, like, still, if I knew. But I, I Even
Godzilla, I always liked that
film, but I did not know the deep history of it and
a lot of the meaning behind it and
what went into the making of that film. So when we
did that particular interview with, my friend Kay
Leah, a lot of people

(24:24):
said, you know, I. I have seen this movie, but I
never knew it was all this. I said, yeah, it's a,
incredibly important film, so it
needs to be known. So I love that. I love
discovering that about a movie. The.

>> Will (24:37):
Yeah.

What it really means.

>> Will (24:39):
Yeah, that's a good point about both. Godzilla
in particular, because, you know, it was really not, you know,
and I guess that's one of the great things about sci fi as a
genre because it can be an allegory for.
For many things. And of course, you know, that, you know,
Godzilla really was, you know, part of Born
in the Nuclear Age is really,
you know, starting to come on and.

(25:03):
Because I. When I first time I saw Gojira.
Ah, I guess if you want to go, you know, to use the original, term, you know,
original title for it. I.
For many years, like, I had the same kind of thing. I
was just like, oh, yeah, big monster, you know, you know, big Kaiju.
Okay, cool. But ye.
Like, yeah, but then. Yeah, but then,

(25:23):
you know, but several, years ago, I was
watching. We were. I was watching with my wife, and we were like. That was one
of the, you know, we. We really got into the history of, like, what the. What
the meaning of that. That movie was with the. The
original. And, Yeah, and when you. When. When you
see it in that vein,
you know, it definitely takes it to a whole another

(25:43):
level.

Yeah. Yeah.

>> Will (25:45):
What.

It all represented what the Japanese were trying to say. And, you
know, and. And I think another reason why,
of earlier decades is, you know,
every film is made from a particular
person's point of view, the director or the producer
or what they're going through
right then and there, it always. It always

(26:06):
colors the filmmaking. You know, sometimes, you know, when you find out who
a producer is or director, you may say, I don't even want to see
that you know what's coming, or you think you know what's
coming. But, you know, so knowing
what was going on in the world that these people were
living in when they made this movie
is something I really love. To
explore because it, it really,

(26:29):
it really makes it different for you, you know,
and sometimes you could forgive stuff that may be cringy now
when you watch it or, you know, you
understand things that maybe you just glossed right over. And
you didn't get the fact that this
meant something because, like we always say, like, I, I'm
a film student, you know, with this

(26:49):
film school for screenwriting. But one of the things
that always said in clout, if it's not on
the page, it's not on the screen. So
if they write something in that script, it's there
for a reason, or if you put it on the
screen, it's there for a
reason. So you, you know, when you're watching a movie,
you really have to get it because, you know, if

(27:12):
you've ever been on a crew,
there's nothing that's an act that accidentally gets
filmed. Maybe, but you know, you've got to set up the
shot. You're putting with people in there. You're doing
something at a particular time of day, at a particular
frame speed, whatever. You know, when you say
action, this is what you want them to see and there's a

(27:32):
reason. So getting behind all
that just fascinates me.

>> Will (27:37):
Yeah, yeah. So, yeah, I know you mentioned
earlier, you know, it's a film critique, you know, as far as
film analysis, what do you think makes a
good sci fi
film as far
as, as far as storytelling, as far as the special effects? I mean,
is it a combination of the two? I mean, what, whatever.

(27:57):
You're looking at a sci fi movie and, and
yeah, yeah.

And then, you know, it's gotta have, it's gotta have the story.
That's the base, you know, that's the base. Like
when, if I'm doing a review of a film,
did I like this to. Did I
give two shakes about whether
these people did whatever they were trying to do? And it can be as
ridiculous. You know, one of the things I like about sci fi is you

(28:22):
can suspend belief. Like, it doesn't have to
be scientifically possible. Like if it's implausible,
like, that would never happen or you can't do that. I'm like,
even better. This is the science fiction
of it. Like, give me a premise and
follow it. Follow it all the way through to the end. Like,
don't change facts now and don't bring in something
at the last minute that's going to change this whole thing. You told me

(28:45):
that the world has two moons and it goes around this way. Or whatever you
told me, that's what I'm thinking is going to happen all the way through this movie. So
the science, as you tell me, has
to be consistent. The story has to be good. I have to
care about those actors or the scene, or I have to
have some sense of urgency that. Yes, we gotta,
Like this movie I'm watching right now, we gotta build these engines to move the

(29:05):
Earth away from the sun that's going nova. I'm like, okay, that's
a mission. All right, I'm on with this. Let's
go. So don't give me something
where I can't understand, even though I'm a
Christopher Nolan freak, that I can't quite
what's going on. If I'm. If I'm not
following, like, why is he putting the

(29:26):
serum in there? Like, I don't know. And I don't mean
that. Ah, you know, you can have it as a thriller where I have.
I'm putting clues together, that's one thing. But
by the end of that movie, I better know what happened, you know, So
I. I do like a satisfying ending. I really hate
ambiguous endings. I just don't like
them.

>> Will (29:44):
Yeah. And. Yeah, I mean.

Yeah, I just, you know, end the movie for me. Please. Please. Tell the
entire story.

>> Will (29:50):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I know some films
sometimes depending on. I guess a lot of times it depends.
For me, I guess it depends on the film because if
it's. If there. If. If we
have ambiguous endings, if.
If. If the. If. If it was
earned, then I can deal with it. But if
it's. But if it's just sort of like you're doing it for the

(30:13):
sake of doing it, then, I just.

Right, Exactly. Will.
Exactly. Yeah. If you. What did you say? You
gotta earn it. Yeah, I like that. I like. I'm Use that. I'm stealing that
from you.

>> Will (30:25):
Feel free to do so. Yeah, I, have no product
authorship in, in that. But, you know, it's funny you
mentioned, we were talking about storytelling,
and. And all. And I think, you know, that's one of the
things that on our podcast, we really. We.
We just talked last night. We just talked about what
if, M for Marvel Season three. And.

(30:46):
And one of the things my. My podcast partner Sarah
talked about was there was an episode in the first season
that to this day, it just, you know,
it resonates with her and it just stays with her. And I think
that's another thing. And for me, that's. I'm that same Way
too. Where, like, you know, look like,
for example, putting together our top top,

(31:06):
five shows of 20, 24, you know,
what's some of the criteria? And for me, you know,
we, you know, we. We were also just talking about we. At the end of the
year, we were talking about doing prophecy, and one of the questions came up
was, you know, you know, we finished.
We did our list before doing prophecy ended.
And the question came up, you know, did. Did

(31:27):
that show change our list or whatever?
And I'm like, well, well, no. I
mean, and, and. And as we were
discussing it, I was blanking on the character's name and I was
just like, oh, you know,
it is one of those things where if a show,
whatever work of art, whether it's a book, whether it's a song,

(31:47):
whatever, whatever it is, for me to make an
impression, it's got to stick with me. Like, you know, I'm
just. If, If it's one of those things that
just. I'm, just driving down the road and one thing,
you know, like,
I'm. What will I really motivate a character? X. Do
xyz, you know, you know, those. Those kind of
things that just, you know, where a story just really

(32:10):
stays with you. And also, to your point about storytelling
is, it. You know,
one of my biggest quibble is when
screenwriters or writers rooms
break their own. Break
the rules of storytelling and
not be consistent with what they're. You know, if you set

(32:31):
up. If you set things up in your universe to be a certain way,
it should. It should remain a certain way.
unless, you know, and if you do bring in something
like, you know, fans, you know, fan
service in bringing a character, for example,
if you're going to bring in a character,
make it, make it, make it, make it

(32:53):
a reason why. For the story.

Part of that story. Give him a part in that
story.

>> Will (32:59):
Yeah, not just the show. Oh, yeah, we got, you know, xy,
you know, you know. Oh, we got so and so show up just
for the sake of showing up. No, but make it part of the story as
far as making it moving forward. So those are some. That's some of the things that
really get to me whenever I'm watching something and it's
like, okay, you just had this
person show up just. Just because it's a Member
Berry versus, like, oh, this really advances the

(33:22):
story.

Right? You could do a clip to advertise this
thing, and that's the only time you see this guy is in that clip
anyway.

>> Will (33:29):
Yeah.

I tell you, the one. The one,
thing that came out last year that
really got all the Sci Fi Sisters was
supercell.

>> Will (33:39):
Oh, we. Yes, we really enjoy that one, too.

Oh, my God. Now, that was some
storytelling.

>> Will (33:46):
Yeah, that actually made my top five list of the
year.

Definitely, definitely. And I'm waiting. And, like, why did
we only get. What was this, eight episodes?

>> Will (33:56):
Something like that. Yeah. Yeah, it was
ended on a cliffhanger.

do we know we're getting second season? Like, what are you doing to us?
I need to know.

>> Will (34:03):
M. Yeah, Netflix did renew it. I was so
happy to see that. while we were covering it, did see
that Netflix renewed it because I was like, man, there's a lot
more story in that show. that was definitely.

Yes.

>> Will (34:15):
Yeah. Yeah, that was definitely a diamond that,
you know, more people needed to talk about because that was just.
I. That I really enjoyed that show.

Yeah, I gave. We gave Rap man all the
props because, you know, they had, what, six
characters that. And they really
told each character's story so that at the
end, when they all became, like, the crew,
you were like, oh, yeah, here we go.
You know, so.

>> Will (34:43):
Yep, for sure.

And even. Even, you know, the. The
plot, like, what are you. What are you up against? And, you know, we were
just. We were. Yeah, this is urgent. Yeah, we got to do
something. It was. It was phenomenal mixing
in things that are happening today. Mixing in, you know,
a. A story about medical,
you know, inconsistencies or how black people are treated with

(35:04):
certain diseases. so it was just.
It was just phenomenal. I thought it was. And the music was
great, too, man. I wanted that sound.

>> Will (35:12):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, I'm glad
you brought that up, because that was one of the things I did want to talk to you
about. It's. As far as science fiction being a place
for social commentary. And Sip of Cell is definitely
one of those shows that, to me,
you know, you know, really bring up. People hear about Sickle
Cell, but no, you know, but to take that

(35:32):
particular genetic or
Twitter and build a story around it,
and. And I just like the way
that they, you know, how these people's
powers came, you know, came. Ah, there are
little mini origin stories for all those folks. You
know, how do you see the genre handling current?

(35:52):
You know, Supacell is one thing, but just
bigger, more, maybe globally, especially given
that, you know, you guys do a lot of reviews and commentary on
a lot of different things on your show,
your own show, but also on the Sci Fi
Sisters. How do you feel as far
as the genre as a whole is
treating current real world issues? I mean there's just so many things like

(36:15):
climate change, there's you know, technology with
A.I. you know, I think about that with like
Mission Impossible, yeah, last, last
summer, you know, social
inequality. How do you think the genre is doing as far
as, you know, bringing a, well, continue
with that historical allegory. Yeah,

I, I think sci fi is
probably the only genre that's doing anything but you
know, everybody else is just slashing and burning. It's just
crazy. I, I, I find, you
know, three body problem, things like that. You
know, movies coming in from China, movies coming in from
Korea, movies coming in from, you know, Great Britain. Even,
even we just had a Rwandan film called Neptune's

(36:57):
Frost and just a, this is
a, a musical. Sci fi Afro.
Futuristic musical science fiction. Yes. I have not seen it
yet. Will, who I'm writing it down to, someone suggested
this movie to me, Neptune's
Frost, from Rwanda.
And it's like nothing. I'm hearing that it's like nothing.
It's got so many, so many film

(37:20):
festivals, they've given this thing awards. It's crazy.
So I I just, it's hard to find it
though. I, I have to get a copy of it somehow. I'll let you
know where it' yeah.

>> Will (37:30):
Yeah, but please let me know.

Yeah, but yeah, I think sci fi is saying a lot and
it always has been the genre that has that said a lot. You
know, even, even with you know, same sex
romances or climate change, I mean, you know,
social issues, you
know, natural issue, natural disaster
issues. what was the one I just saw? And it was

(37:52):
talking about the person
couldn't hear. I don't know. But you know a
lot of different stories and the, and like,
like this one supercell with a disease where
people had not heard of it and now this was like really
educating a lot of people about what sickle cell was like. A lot. I
think a lot of people thought it was like polio, that it had been eradicated.

(38:13):
I'm black. And I even thought oh, sickle cell
isn't that big a deal anymore. But yes it is. It's still out there.
It just, it doesn't get any attention because it's all
black people. But yeah, I think science fiction is
really at the, at the
forefront of telling stories and
they, you know, they've been ringing the bell on climate change
forever. We're sitting here right now watching these Palisade,

(38:36):
fires out in California and I just can't
but think that, you know, the fact
that it is so dry, the fact that the winds are up to 90 miles an
hour, the fact that, you know, the complete streets are burned, it's
like, okay, how many times do we have
to see all these crazy weather
effects? I mean, D.C. is sitting under like 8 inches of snow.

(38:56):
We haven't had this much snow and I don't know how long, but you know, all of a
sudden we just get this like, okay, what is going on? We
don't get snow like this. But, the,
the science fiction is definitely doing
it and I, and I think even when
it's a superhero movie, which I put in
a, you know, that's a sub genre of sci fi

(39:17):
for me. you know, and a superhero movie
has ruled for the last few years in the box
office. But you know, we're seeing a little lull
right now. But you know, we got Superman out now
though, so here we go. We've got, you know, Deadpool just came out.
But, they still try to tell
something more. Even the last, Black Panther
story was trying to tell a different, you know, trying

(39:39):
to tell something else about the earth and what's,
what's, what's at stake. So, bravo. Sci
fi, it's, it's always been at the forefront. It's just,
I think this is pro. I think it's a golden age of
sci fi. Like a lot of people looking
at it that never did. I, you know, I don't
think we could have really gotten this many podcasts and everything off the

(39:59):
ground, talking about science fiction if it
wasn't this particular time with Marvel and
DC and, and Paramount and
even Apple, all of them coming up with incredible
ships.

>> Will (40:11):
Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Yeah. It really is. I think it is a really
golden age for content. I know people use the word
content, but it's a double edged sword.
But that, that, that framing shows
and movies and books and stuff like that way. But it
really is. I, think we, we even
after, you know, granted we've made it through the strikes and

(40:32):
Covid and everything else. But you know, I really feel like this
year and, and beyond is going to be a
good rebound m. That
and will continue. you know, as far
as getting good, getting good things out there for
sure. speaking of podcast. Yeah, speaking of
podcasts and stuff. So tell me about sort of the development as far

(40:53):
as, you know, some of the behind the scenes
things that you do to prepare for your,
for ah, your, your show. I know, obviously
beyond watching the film, but I know you talked
earlier about Blade Runner, for example, doing your own research. So what, what
are some. How, what, what goes into the
sausages.

I do is, is download the script.
I usually try to find the shooting script of the film.
That's, that's step one. And I like to read the
script if I have not seen the movie before,
which has never happened actually. But,
no, actually the first One of the second season is
called the Wandering Earth 2. And it is

(41:30):
a, a Chinese dystopian, you
know, blowing up everything sci fi.
I have not seen this before. I will try
to find this, the script and see. I like to see if there's
a difference or change or, you know,
what the screenwriter wrote versus what gets on the,
what gets on the, the screen. And it's

(41:50):
usually very eye opening when you compare the script to the
screen because if it's a
different writer, like, what did we do?
we did the one where the Fantastic Voyage, written
by, Jerome Bixby, who wrote a few Star Trek episodes.
He did Mirror, Mirror. That's Jerome Bixby. And so he wrote
Fantastic Voyage. And we were like reading, you know, his

(42:11):
script, and it was based on someone else's idea,
but we read that script and then you see the movie and
you see the different changes and things and what, what, what made
it into the film and what didn't, what got changed? Who got
combined, you know, characters together. And it's really
fascinating to me, like, why, you know, for cost? For this or for
that? so that's the first thing. I usually read the script. I usually watch
the movie. A couple of times I watch the movie, just watch

(42:34):
it through, just let me, just let it
wash over me. And then I'll watch it again with
pen in hand and I'm making notes.
then I do research. Then I do research
on the film. I try to find articles about it. You know, I
go into IMDb, I, I read, you know, trivia about
it. I, and I look up the stars, I look up the

(42:55):
directors, I look up everybody. You know, it's just
a whole big thing. And I, and I love every
second of it. People would
think, oh, my God, that's a lot of work. I'm like, I
can't get enough of it. I love doing deep
research on films. I just love
it.

>> Will (43:12):
That's awesome. That's awesome too. What's been the
audience feedback, for, for you,
on the show, as far as, you know, comments and
just social media and other things, you know,
what's, you know, listeners,
watchers. What, what, what are people.

I think a lot. Yeah,
yeah, they, they, they really appreciate, like,
as we were saying earlier, they really appreciate the
film more. A lot of people had, ah, already seen the
film, like when we were talking about, Children
of Men. And you know, Brandon
Schultz loves that movie
and, I do too. And a lot of people, you

(43:51):
know, they may have seen it, they don't remember it or, you know, they're like, you
know, what is this, children? But when we explained what was going on
and then talked about the actual making of the film and some
of the shots of the film, like the, you know, that one
shot, like, oh, my God, it's like
Chef's Kiss. Jesus. Yes. people
went back and watched the movie and then, you know, made comments that, oh,

(44:13):
my God, you really. This is such a great film. And I
think I, I would like my listeners to
have their level of film
appreciation raised that you're
not just watching a movie and eating the popcorn. You know, you're
looking at the cuts and you're looking at
the camera angles and you're looking at the lighting and
you're looking at the costuming. And, you

(44:35):
know, maybe you have to watch the movie twice, but
hey, that's a good thing. you know, maybe
watch it once the story and the second time you're getting all the
aesthetics and the beauty of
filmmaking that I just think it's one
of the greatest art forms ever.

>> Will (44:52):
Yeah. Yeah. As, as far as, as you, as you're planning your
second season, have there been
any recommendations that you. From, from
your audience that, you're going to incorporate,
into your. Into the show?

I haven't heard. Yeah, well, gosh, I don't know how
many people want us to do like, Planet of the Apes.
Logan's, run has been suggested. There's so many. I
got. I got to do 14 episodes. And, this
is so many to pick from. But Logan's Run is
like m. You know, I don't know what else I can say
about Planet of the Apes that's been so done

(45:26):
that, you know, maybe. But, you know,
it's. It's always good. I. You know, the thing. Okay, here's what I
was thinking to do if, if not
just Planet of the Apes, I wanted to do a Charlton Heston
trilogy. What do you Think of this idea, Will, because I wanted
to do Planet of the Ape, Soy and Green and
Omega man, which he made all three in a span

(45:46):
of maybe five years. And I was like, yep. What was going on
with Charlton at this time that he was making?

>> Will (45:53):
That's a great idea. Yeah.
Yeah.

well, maybe you should do it with me.

>> Will (45:58):
Okay. Maybe, you know, I need to watch Soul and Green
again. I. Oh, gosh, it's probably been about
15 years or so since the last time.

I.

>> Will (46:06):
Probably longer since I've watched that film.
And, you know, of course, it's been parodied and just like
Planet of the Apes, so, you know, so many times. But,
you know, I'll be down for that.

Yeah. All right. We might just have come up with an episode here.
Yeah. The Chuck Heston
trilogy, because Story and
Green, that's a story. And I. You know, and
I'll tell you honestly, I don't know whether it's based on a book or whatever.
I really don't know anything about the background of that movie. And I would
like to know, because it's an amazing story.

>> Will (46:38):
Yeah.

Omega Man, I know, is based on another book.
Ah. A very famous book. and then, you know, like, I Am
Legend is pretty much the same story again,
but, I believe that's right. I think. Yes.
so I would like to. I would kind of like to go deeper into those
three with Chuck, because I. You know, despite how
he went out, Charlton Nelson was one of

(46:59):
my favorite. Come on, Judah. Ben
Hur. Listen.
Listen.

>> Will (47:05):
For sure. For sure. Yeah.

Guy.

>> Will (47:08):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's. You know,
they don't make them, like. They don't make him like him anymore. Right. I'm not
talking about his politics or whatever. It's just as far as
exactly that. That era
of filmmaking with so many people.

That film was directed by whom?
William, Wyler.

>> Will (47:25):
Weller. That's right. Oh, that's right.
Ah.

Oh, my God.

>> Will (47:32):
Yeah.

After I get off of here, because I haven't seen that in
ages.

>> Will (47:37):
Yeah. Yeah. And I think, you know, I think Solen Green. I can't remember if the
book. I, think. I, don't know if it was novelization from the film
or Vice or if they took it. yeah, and
folks down in the chat, you know, let us know because I. I don't
know right off the top of my head. Of course it'll come to me, like, right after
we get done recording here. But, yeah, that's.
That era, was definitely, yeah. They don't make them

(47:58):
like that anymore. They really don't.

Yeah, the sci fi that was coming out in the 70s, like, that was
really dark.

>> Will (48:05):
Yeah.

You know, you had like, Andromeda Strain and, you
know, Green and. Oh, man,
you know, the ending to these movies were not
good.

>> Will (48:16):
No, no. Clockwork Orange is another one.

yeah, it was rough. It was rough.

>> Will (48:21):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, those
dystopian films were. Yeah,
it's like a whole. Yeah, yeah,
yeah, for sure, for sure. So in the time we
have left here, tell me, so speaking of your
second season, when will it kick off and what other
projects do you, have coming? I know, I think, I know when I was

(48:42):
talking with, Derek, who was on our
show a few weeks ago, talking. We were talking about his show
on the, on your, on your network, your podcast network.
When. When are you guys going to be returning?

we're gonna start the first, sense and go. Sci
Fi episode will, will drop on January
29th at 9:30pm
live with Dr. Chandra Prescott
Weinstein. And we will be doing The Wandering Earth 2.
That is the one where we're gonna build engines and put them on the
Earth and on moon and push the moon off and push
the Earth out to the solar system because the sun is going to

(49:16):
go nova. I mean, why wouldn't you
want to see this movie? Yeah,
from China, which I, they can make a
film. I tell you, the CGI in this one
is great. I'm not a huge
fan of a lot of CGI films,
but, this is spot on. This is
like, wow, wow.

(49:39):
So a very kind of Independence Day feel.
you know, a little bit of. A little bit of,
foundation. There's a lot of, A lot of
a, Ah, lot of memories, getting kicked off
here. So check this movie out. Wandering Earth
2. It is a prequel of the Wandering Earth.
This is. Even though this is two, this one happens before

(49:59):
Wandering Earth. And
the theme this year for the season is. Is
international. I, I really want to bring in
more films from sci fi around the
world. You know, I want to do Attack the Block, which
is, you know, located in, In
London. I, want to do Train to
Busan, in Korea district,

(50:22):
nine, South Africa. So,
you know, and all of them telling dystopian
stories.

>> Will (50:30):
Oh, you know. Yeah, well,
you know, they're, They're. They're could be.
Not. Not that I, you know. Well, you know, that may be
the mood. I'll just, I'll just put it I'll just leave it there.
Yeah. That many people may be filling these
days.

Right, right. But you know, if it's not. If it's
not, international, then I definitely want to. I want
to show more films that have black
cast, black storytellers or something like
that. You know, being a sci fi sister, being the cinnamon cinephile.
Let's get that out there. But, you know, I always want. I always
want to. I always want to spotlight the black people,

(51:06):
because I think there's some storytellers that don't get,
don't get the platform. And that's one of the
reasons why I became a film reviewer. It's,
Did you know that of all the film reviewers in
the United States, only 4% of them are black females?

>> Will (51:23):
Really? What that low?
4.

Wow. So if you have a
story that is a lead by. Of a
black female telling like a romance or something, the
chances that you'll get it reviewed, that it'll make it into Rotten
Tomatoes and get the required
five reviewers to review it so that it gets
on the meter and people look at it is slim and
none.

>> Will (51:47):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, that's a
film that you.

Need to watch that got like, no attention.
None. Because it's black female
leads, fast colors.

>> Will (51:59):
Yeah, I haven't heard of it.

Lorraine Tucson. And if you know those two
names, I love you. but Google, you know, everybody knows her. If
you see her, she's been in Belle. She was in, the
Marvel series, with
Loki. What's it, you know, when they would go back and forth.
Yeah. and, this movie is about,
you know, this family of black women who have
superpowers and climate change is involved.

(52:26):
Unfortunately, this movie was directed by a female.
It stars black females. And so it got like no review,
no press, no play, hardly any
distribution. When, ah, it came out, they. They opened
it in 25 movie theaters
total.

>> Will (52:41):
Really.

So everybody's like, well, but go and watch Fast
Color because it is. It was one of the best sci fi
films to come out back in. But nobody saw
it.

>> Will (52:50):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. This first I've heard of it. So.
Yeah. And to your point, I mean, that's just,
the. Is criminally, how
underrepresented, black reviewers and black
female reviewers in particular are.
Are, in. In the. In the film, in, you
know, space. you know, because.
Yeah, I mean, you know, because, you know, and just Even looking at

(53:12):
YouTubes and other things, I mean, you know, I think, it's great
that you. That the Sci Fi sisters came together because,
you know, and that's one of the reasons why I did sort of my kickoff show.
Because one of the things I found for myself was
with watching Picard, I was just like, there
was just a. Not many black
male, female people out there reviewing these

(53:32):
shows and talking about these shows and having our perspectives
and. And. And
so, you know, it was just.

Oh, I'm telling you.
Yeah, yeah,
yeah, it was. You know, people were loving
it. And we said. I said this always, like, really being
hostile to black actors in this. Is anybody
noticing how many black people are getting killed in this.
In this show? You just. First seeing. You just killed

(54:02):
the black alien boy. Like, you knifed him. You
knifed him. He was there for 20
seconds. I said, well, why bother putting all that makeup on him if you could
just go and kill him off anyway? I said, just make him a troll. Put some spots
on and call it a day. You gave him all these prosthetics and then
you killed him. I was like. Anyway. But, yeah,
Picard had a.
We do. There was a lot of things in that that just kind of rubbed us the wrong

(54:24):
way from the beginning, and we just thought. Thought was a little better than
that. But, yeah, we like to call out when they're doing
that, you know, it's like, no. Ah, no, no, no.

>> Will (54:32):
Yeah, no, no. Yeah, for. I think,
you know, I know the third
season was. Was,
one that, You know, it was sort of that eighth
season of the Next Generation everybody had hoped for.
So it did redeem itself. But, But at the end of the
day, it's still, you know, I have an honest thought.

They went and got Beverly. Thank you.

>> Will (54:55):
Yeah. Yeah. For real. For real. But honestly, I haven't
rewatched it since, Since I watched it the first time. I.
I just wanted to, you know, there's some things I'll go back and revisit. I've
revisited Discovery. I've revisited
you, obviously. Strange new worlds, but even
lower decks.

But they did DS9 wrong on that one,
too. They just, they just. I don't understand. You
know, they just made like. You went back and got the
DS9 storyline, and you didn't bring anybody from
DS9 or, any character from DS9
in to tell that story. You know, you
didn't bring. You got shape shifters and
whatever going on. You know,

(55:32):
okay, whatever.

>> Will (55:34):
Yeah, they're like, well, we had wharf, but. Yeah, but we're
starting on tng. Yeah. Yeah. There's so many
things that were part of that third season
tng. Yeah, yeah. my wife never.
She, she didn't get a chance to fully watch DS9, so
whenever those, those elements of the third season were
popping up, I was like, yeah, I was like. I, I was like

(55:54):
over there having, like, my nerd fit, and then, and so
I would have to like, you know, the whole the Dominion War, changeling
arc. I mean, all that kind of stuff. I'm like, yeah, so we
gotta have a. We gotta have us. You. This is a
gap in her. Star Trek and she's a big fan,
but, yeah, herself.
Star Trek lore. I was like, I gotta, I gotta. I, I need

(56:14):
to fill that gap for you, sweetie.

Now, did you watch Star Trek before she married you or
after?

>> Will (56:21):
Before. Before he grew up with. Yeah, yeah,
her father was a big fan and, so, yeah,
she. Yeah, so, yeah, so she's
dating.

The guy that doesn't know Star Trek.

>> Will (56:32):
Yeah, she's. She's a big fan. we have, we have a. We have a rule
in our house that, we. We can't watch.
We. You know, whenever a new show is on, we have to. We have to
watch it together, so.

Oh, my. Okay.

>> Will (56:44):
Yeah, yeah, so, yeah, so it's, it's
definitely. We can't. Yeah,
yeah, that's a good.

I mean.

>> Will (56:52):
Yeah, yeah, so that's a good rule. But I have to tell them, like, look, you know,
there's a 40 hour, you know, we got, we can't go too long
because, you know, the Internet. Yeah, that's true.

Don't be taking all day to see the Dag on thing if I gotta wait
for you. So let's go here.
Yeah, set a time and let's be there.

>> Will (57:09):
Yeah. Speaking of, Speaking of Trek, before. Before we go,
I, I know there's the. Is, it. The Trek Talks, the big, fundraiser,
that's coming out. Yeah, you guys are gonna be a part of that. Yeah,
yeah, yeah. Tell me, Tell us. Tell. Tell
the folks a little bit more about that.

Yes, yes, Trek Talks, which is, the
brainchild of Bill, and Dan from,
Trek Geeks, is a fundraiser for the Hollywood Food
Coalition. Also, not just, not just Bill and Dan, but also
John Billingsley from, You know him as Dr. Flocks
and a lot of other people in Star Trek that are on that board. That's how I
met Dave David Livingston. He was on the board a few years
ago for Trek Talk. So, you know,

(57:44):
Gene, John Roddenberry's Son, everybody's on this thing.
So all trying to raise money for the Hollywood Food Coalition,
which does a really fantastic job of
feeding, homeless people in la, which
I think is going to really ramp up
right now. I mean, I'm so frightened for what's going on in LA right now.
So my heart is going out to them. So this will be a really

(58:05):
crucial fundraiser. So people, please listen. It's going
to be on,
January 19th.

>> Will (58:14):
Yeah, yeah, I guess over the King weekend. Yeah, yeah.

and, we are doing the Hype show. And
Tamia is also moderating the Discovery
reunion panel. We're going to be, all over there. That is
behind the scenes being one of the producers. And last
year we raised about a hundred thousand dollars for the
Hollywood Food Coalition. And so this year we're looking
to do even better. And I, I
mean it is going to be us

(58:39):
mashing lineup. So get ready, we will hype
it up officially for you. But, it's, it's, it's
always so exciting to do Trek Talks because
it's, they just get everybody and it's going to be, just going to be
great. So that's, that's one thing we're going to be doing.
And the other
thing is

(59:01):
we're going to be doing Trek Long Island. We're going to be there
in, May. We're going to be doing awesome conversations. but, like I said,
the show's gonna kick off our podcast. We'll be kicking off
later on this month, and on the
24th. And so we'll be back on every
other week schedule on the Trek Geek Network.
And yeah, Trek Talks is going to be January
18th from. Okay,

(59:22):
9:45am Pacific Time or
12:45pm Eastern Time.
So January 18th. 18th. Not
what I said earlier you. That. Okay, there, see, I fixed
it.
And we'll, be doing that Hype show, at 9, at
12:45. That'll be us. So, get ready for
that. And we are just really excited. Yeah, we've

(59:45):
got the podcast coming. We've got the live show coming up. We're going to be
doing a little thing on we're all excited for
section, 31. Section 31. The.
So get ready for that. You know, my show's kicking off, Derek,
and we have, elfquest two Moon two
Two Moons and a microphone with Tanya, which
has become one of my favorite things. I am so

(01:00:07):
into ElfQuest because of Tanya Scott Thomas.
love that show. So, I never knew anything
about ElfQuest until, you know, Tanya came
along and I was hanging out with us and telling us about. I m. Was like
this. With these elves. I can't even get into this. What. But now I'm
like, no, I want a name. I gotta read it. I got. I got the
book. That's great.

>> Will (01:00:27):
That's great. Yeah. That's
awesome. That's awesome. Yeah, I'm not a big, you
know, familiar. I'm just. I. I know it entitled only. And that's.
That's about my, My. The extent of it.

>> Sabrina Wood (01:00:37):
But, you know, I'm sorry, you know what I said.

>> Will (01:00:40):
I know ElfQuest and like, title only that. But
I never.

Yeah, yeah, you do better than me. I never even
knew, like, what, but you know what I'm
telling you. Have you watched Tanya's show? Please
watch her show, because she is so knowledgeable
about that. And I was watching because.
So we're. We're producing the show. So I'm watching it, and I
didn't know anything about it. I'm listening to her and I'm going like, oh,

(01:01:04):
damn, m. I got to get into these books
now. There is some really deep storytelling and those
fans are as loyal, Star Trek fans.
So we did a show why Star Trek fans
would love Elfquest. And it was really. If you
are a Trekkie, I think Elfquest would
really appeal to you.

>> Will (01:01:25):
Great, great. Well, thanks for the tip. I will, I will. I will
check that out because I'm always looking for. For new things to pick
up and, and all. But,
well, before as we close out here,
thank you for, for being here. I. I
really, really enjoyed having you on. I
hope we can do this again.

Yeah.

>> Will (01:01:44):
and now we've got an episode.

That we're gonna do. We're doing that trilogy.
Ah, you may think we're not doing. We're doing that.

>> Will (01:01:51):
I'm. Hey, just name. Name the time and place. I will,
I will be there.

Okay, but follow up on that.

>> Will (01:01:59):
Please do. Please do. But. Yeah, but thank you so much for, for being
on Scene N, Nerd Presents, Blerd Trek. before you. Before we, before
we sign off, tell everyone
on socials, Internet and all that kind of stuff.

Yes, you can find the Sci Fi Sisters at sci fi
sisters dot com. That's S
Y-F-Y-S I S
T-A-S dot com. You can find us
on Instagram and
blue, sky and Threads as Sci Fi
Sisters. And, also make sure you Check

(01:02:31):
us out on our YouTube channel, which is Sci Fi
Sisters. YouTube network YouTube
channel. And of course you can find us on the Trek Geek
Network as Sci Fi Sisters. So
just remember S Y F Y S I
S T A S
thank.

>> Will (01:02:48):
You, thank you, thank you. Yes. And be sure
to follow them and check their workout they're doing.
You will if you're a fan of not only Star Trek but
other things in the genre, you, you will find something there
on the Sci Fi Sisters. They have something for everybody.
Great show, can't speak highly
enough of them. And be sure to check them out,

(01:03:09):
follow them and be sure to
subscribe not only to their work but also subscribe to
our channel here on YouTube. Of course we're
also. You can see us below, you can find us
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be sure to rate, follow, subscribe
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(01:03:30):
the socials, my socials at Will and Polk W
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social other social networks as well. And
with that, thank you so much for,
for watching. Please leave a comment in the
chat if you want to suggest a film for

(01:03:53):
Sabrina to review. And and with
that, live long and
prospect.

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