June 4, 2025 • 52 mins
In this episode of Scene N Nerd, Sarah and Will tackle the highly anticipated final season of "Stranger Things," discussing Will's mixed feelings about the series and the emotional weight of its characters. They reflect on the show's journey, the importance of time apart, and the clever narrative ties that link back to the very first episode. Expect a lively debate about the show's impact and what to expect in the upcoming episodes.
Shifting gears, the duo dives into the latest news on "One Piece" Season 2 and the excitement surrounding the introduction of beloved characters. Additionally, they share their thoughts on the upcoming season of The Boys spin-off "Gen V."
They also share their thoughts on the new series "The Studio," exploring its unique take on the film industry and the challenges of balancing art and commerce. With a mix of humor and genuine insights, Sarah and Will analyze how the show captures the essence of filmmaking in today’s landscape while maintaining an authentic voice.
As a special treat, Sarah and Will discuss their recent rewatch of "Rogue One" following the conclusion of "Andor." They explore how the two narratives intertwine and enhance each other, providing a richer understanding of the characters and themes that resonate throughout the Star Wars universe.
With engaging discussions and a few laughs, this episode is perfect for fans of "Stranger Things," "One Piece," "Rogue One," and anyone interested in the behind-the-scenes world of cinema!
0:00 Intro
0:30 "Stranger Things" Season 5 discussion, "One Piece" and "Gen V" Season 2 updates
9:55 "Rogue One" rewatch after "Andor"
28:51 "The Studio" Episode 1 review.
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>> Will (00:00):
Music
>> Sarah (00:13):
Greetings Nerds, This is Scene N Nerd. I'm your host, Sarah
Belmont. and with me, as always, is our Mr. Producer, Will Polk How are you doing
tonight, Will?
>> Will (00:18):
Doing very well, Sarah. How you doing this Tuesday evening?
>> Sarah (00:21):
I'm doing good, but. So,
Okay. I don't know if our listeners have noticed,
but a few weeks ago, Will made
an executive decision and kicked all of our news
items to the end of the show, which I'm
fine with. I am perfectly fine with.
But now
(00:42):
it's when he does these little things where
I'm like, we're really going to save that for the end of the
show. That's a great opener. Why
does Will hate Stranger Things?
>> Will (00:53):
Let's start right there. Okay. I Don't hate
Stranger Things.
>> Sarah (00:59):
Well, okay, you. You
may not hate it, but
I'm just.
>> Will (01:05):
I've just forgotten what the hell happened with it. It's just been,
like, what, 10. It's been like, 10. 10 years. And,
like, it's like.
>> Sarah (01:13):
Okay, you don't remember
the mo. The only thing that I arguably
remember. Well, I remember a
few things. Vecna, the Big
Bad, was what we found
out was, like, the original
was also created by the same people who created 11.
And like, they. They had
(01:36):
a relationship of sorts, and
she. So. So they tied it very
cleverly all the way back to the first episode, to the
pilot episode. So that's. That's everything going on with
11, and that's the only important stuff because
90 of what happens in seasons three
and four revolving around 11 does
(01:56):
not matter except for that fact.
Okay, then. Then the other most
important thing, the. The
only reason why I remember season four
and, and season four has stuck with me is
because of Sadie Sink and
her whole, like, Vecna going after
(02:18):
her and. And then. And then us not
knowing if she's alive or dead
because we see in her mind, like, she's
unconscious, in a coma, and
she's no longer in that living room
space. So I remember things.
I do agree with you. Like,
Stranger Things is one of those shows where
(02:42):
hits the. The, the zeitgeist,
and then it disappears. And then you. You're
like, oh, like I've forgotten about you.
But every time we come
back to it, I feel like, for better or for
worse, like, especially season four, I was
checked out after season three, but.
But like Maya Hawk, I remember, was the
(03:04):
only reason why I liked season three.
and was still someone on board. Maya
and. And Steve like
their dynamic. So. So the.
For whatever reason, I feel like it's one of
those shows where honestly, I think time apart is
important.
>> Will (03:23):
Yeah.
>> Sarah (03:24):
and then it'll hit. And, and,
and this is the last time it'll hit. And it's coming
in three parts. We got the first part
now. Now all I hear is parts. So you're
gonna have to fill me in on how many episodes we're
expecting on, what was it, November
26th, this Christmas Day.
And New Year's.
>> Will (03:46):
Yeah, New Year's Eve. So it's eight. It's eight episodes for
the final season.
>> Sarah (03:50):
Each.
>> Will (03:52):
No, total.
>> Sarah (03:54):
Total. So how many parts? Like
part one we're getting how many? no, there's three
parts.
>> Will (04:01):
Right.
>> Sarah (04:02):
So how did they divide it?
>> Will (04:04):
I don't, I haven't looked to see how they
have broken it down, but I did look to see what was the
episode count. It was like eight episodes.
>> Sarah (04:13):
Okay.
>> Will (04:14):
Yeah.
>> Sarah (04:14):
Okay. I wonder which one got short.
Probably the New Year's Eve. It is probably going to
be 332. Yeah,
yeah. Okay, that makes sense.
>> Will (04:26):
yeah, because I would think one of them would be like a very
like feature, almost a feature length, you know,
ending or, or, or, or beginning. So.
>> Sarah (04:34):
Yeah, yeah. The New Year's. The New Year's Eve is going to be
like that one. The ending, the,
the like and, and, but we don't know
episode links because I remember season four, especially
the second half of season four, it was like,
whoa, we may be
getting four episodes, but they were like
(04:55):
two hours long each.
>> Will (04:57):
So, so yeah, so I went quickly, while we
were talking, I went to netflix.com because
they, they did the big to dumb release that they're
big like streaming thing over the
weekend. and so it's going to be four
episodes on November
26th.
>> Sarah (05:15):
Right?
>> Will (05:16):
That's on Christmas. And the finale will be New Year's
Day, a New Year's Eve.
>> Sarah (05:20):
Oh, so they go, they went four, three,
one. But that one episode will probably be
three and a half hours long.
>> Will (05:27):
Probably.
Exactly, exactly.
>> Sarah (05:33):
And I will probably fast forward 40 minutes of
it.
>> Will (05:37):
Yeah, you know, I, ah, I did. Yeah, because I guess,
you know, they did have their big event over the weekend and that
they did have a, I guess a sizzle reel
that had maybe basically was like a recap
of like, I did watch it. It just had like a recap. It just pretty
much everything up to this point and then just
a few, just a hand. Just a handful
(05:58):
of scenes. Not even a handful, just
a tease of scenes, for the final season, which, you know,
which obviously you know, which makes, makes total sense and
you know it's one of those things everybody's gonna tune in. So you don't need a
full. You don't need a trailer?
>> Sarah (06:11):
No, no, no. also at that event
and also what we are expecting to arrive now
in 2026, early 2026 is
One Piece season two. Did they show
anything? I mean, I, I know we got teased the
character because I forget the character's name,
but they showed up.
>> Will (06:30):
Yeah, Tony. Tony Chopper, which apparently.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I know
the Internet's went nuts because apparently, you
know, both of us are, are non
watchers of the. Or readers of the manga
or watch or animated stuff.
So we're coming to a fresh, you know,
(06:51):
eyes, no backstory, but I just
know all the fandom and we're
very, very excited with the news of this particular character showing up.
So.
>> Sarah (07:00):
Yeah.
>> Will (07:00):
So, yes, if you're a one piece,
aficionado and can, you know, can fill us in on
just what the backstory is, for for
this character. please, I'm happy to, Happy to
hear it. So just, just hit it in the comments or, or hit
us on our socials.
>> Sarah (07:16):
Yeah, but, but limit because don't
spoil.
>> Will (07:19):
That's for.
>> Sarah (07:20):
Yeah, like, like, sure, sure.
Give it grace. I know that's like, that's the
hardest thing to do. And you know this. Like,
you, you want to tell people information,
but then again, you have to be. You can't
spoil anything because a, part of the reason
why I liked One Piece Season one is because I, I
(07:40):
didn't have any, any
sense of the world. Like, they really
had to develop it for me and flesh out
the live action version of this world
and, and I had to get into it that way
as opposed to, oh, well, I'm gonna watch this
show. So let me do a,
(08:01):
What is One Piece 101?
Like, it's. I don't know. I, I'm.
But so, so I've done the same thing.
Yeah. Yeah, little overviews are good. But.
But be careful. we don't have to wait
for 2026 for the next one. But we are
anticipating it, I think in September of
(08:22):
this year, Gen V Season two. And I did
watch the trailer
and. Yeah. Yeah, like,
let's go.
>> Will (08:32):
Yep, exactly. Yeah, I,
I really, you know, really enjoyed that
trailer. and you know, it did. Obviously we
did. We sadly did lose a chance.
Pernomo, as he was sadly heading to
film season two and had that tragic motor,
motorcycle accident. But, but you know, they
did work it, you Know, we did see how they were going to work it into
(08:54):
the, in the trailer and, but also, you know,
we do see a new superintendent for the school and,
and since. And also the tie ins
to the, the previous, season of the
Boy. So, yeah, I'm like, I'm with you.
Like, let's go.
>> Sarah (09:12):
Yep. Yep, let's, let's go.
>> Will (09:15):
So, yeah, but the first, yeah, but the
first three episodes will drop September 17th and
then the ballot, the remaining five will,
air each Wednesday, concluding, on October
22nd.
>> Sarah (09:29):
All right, well, now that we're done talking about
things that are new and ahead, we must
revisit the past because Will made me.
and we both have rewatched Rogue
One A Star Wars Story, because
obviously we've Finished Andor Season 2
Not Too Long ago.
and, and so Will, Why don't you kick us
(09:51):
off on this revisit to this movie?
>> Will (09:53):
Yeah, well, before I hit the rewatch of
the whole of, Rogue One, we're also covering the studio
tonight. So we're basically going to the galaxy far, far
away and then we're also going to be
talking about Rogue One, which, Yeah, I just really
wanted to just know your thoughts
after watching
(10:14):
Andor. What was,
what was your initial impression with Rogue One
whenever you first watched the film and then now
after Andor. How has that changed
your, your, your thoughts about the movie?
Sarah?
>> Sarah (10:31):
Okay, okay. Everyone heard the question
and everyone knows that I'm being gonna be honest.
my initial impression of the movie. I, I, loved
Rogue One. I remember watching it in theaters, having
a blast re watching it after
and, or season two. Did not like it as much.
Did not like it as much for
(10:52):
so many reasons.
but, but yeah, yeah, so, so that
is that. Yep, that is my
answer. Yeah.
>> Will (11:02):
No, I mean, and that's, that's, I appreciate your
honesty. I mean, I, you know, I,
I, I've watched it twice now after, after
I watched it immediately after I finished Andor.
And, and then I watched it again,
this, this, this past weekend. And I
will say I think after the initial
(11:24):
high of like coming off of
season two of Andor. Yeah.
And I even said before it definitely hits different.
and, and I still think it does. I mean, I think it
definitely fleshes out a lot of things
and we'll, you know, we can get into it as we, as we discuss it
(11:45):
here tonight. But, but on second
re. Watch after having a, having a
week or so after, after the finale
of Andor, I, I definitely
There are some definite things with it
where that, that. That high
that I had before, some of the
(12:06):
elements, all of this. Elements of the. Of. Of
Rogue One, don't hit.
Don't work as
well for me. But also, But there are some
things that. That really double down my
feelings about
other. Other. Other aspects of the film. And one of the first ones
(12:27):
is, you know, really
Cassian's journey. To me, really, I think
Andor definitely makes Cassian's journey
and the Cassian Andor that we see and
in Rogue One, I. I, feel like it definitely elevates
his story before because I remember when I initially watched
Rogue One and especially thinking back to 20, guess
(12:49):
19 or 18, when they like were going to have this
series, you know, it. It.
I, was like Of the characters in this film, you
know, I always
thought it was generous of his film. And, and that's the other
thing too. Even with Cassian's story being
fleshed out more, I still feel like this,
(13:11):
that. That Rogue One is still Jen's story.
>> Sarah (13:17):
Yeah. Yeah.
M.
But they're.
>> Will (13:23):
But they're. Yeah.
>> Sarah (13:28):
What were you gonna say?
>> Will (13:29):
No, but, but, but, but, but no, I still feel
as Jen story. But also. I see. But
also, I think especially on the second re watch,
the. The parallels between the two characters
are just even more pronounced to me now than they
were when I did the initial re watch, a couple weeks ago.
>> Sarah (13:47):
Yeah. Yeah.
I just. I mean, like
coming off of Andor season two, I. I think
Andor is a bit judgmental of Jin.
I, do that. And honestly, upon
re watching, I don't think this is movies anybody's story.
Like, they great. it's
(14:10):
so quick. Everything is so quick.
And I feel like the final battle
lasts at least half of the movie, if not like a
good third of the movie long. So, so
they. I was. That's what took me back.
Like, I was like, whoa. I don't. I thought,
(14:30):
man, we. We barely get anything.
And. And it's just like introduce this
character, introduce this character, introduce this character.
This character, this MacGuffin. This, this.
And to get the crew together to get
them all on Jetta and everything. Like,
yeah, it's Jin's story because
(14:51):
the father aspect of course, and
the Krennic, like. And I do appreciate
overall all of the dialogue about
like, which side are you on?
And the. The grayness
in this movie. And I think that's what I enjoyed about
it the first time I watched it. But the
(15:13):
second time I just I was,
I was sitting there like, well, and or now that I know
your story and how you came here, like,
who are you to call Jen the flip flopper
when like a year prior
you were ready to to abandon the
rebellion? You're a
bit high and mighty to be like,
(15:35):
I don't know, there was just a few things
and then some of the dialogue
just the rebellion was built on hope. I'm
just like, okay, I feel like I've heard this line
now 600 times, so can
we ixnay on it? and it's just I,
I think that I know
(15:55):
everyone compares this movie to
like a war film,
which, which is true. And, and, and
I think that in, in a lot
of war films, I'm gonna, I'm gonna pull a
Nolan Dunkirk. So
Dunkirk isn't about any of the
soldiers. It's about the event.
(16:18):
It's an event based movie. Pearl
harbor, like
really that should have been about the event,
but they tacked on a full love
triangle and all of this other stuff. So
it was about the event and like an hour
and a half of bs.
(16:38):
So, so in this movie, I think to
an extent if I, I feel like
part of the angle was like this is more
about rectifying
how these plans got to where they needed
to go in solving this mystery and
also why, why it was so
(16:59):
easy to destroy the Death Star, like
to retcon all of that.
Like they, they,
they skimmed and they gave us like,
like surface, level characters. But
I, I just have a hard time after re
watching it and just spending what
(17:19):
felt like 1800 hours with Andor
that this
movie is, is not anyone's story.
I mean it does say a Star wars story. It's
about this, how to
defeat the Death Star and like everyone
else. And I think also because everyone dies.
(17:41):
So like they're gonna
only spend so much time they, they have like what,
25 characters set up in this
movie.
>> Will (17:51):
There were a lot. There were a lot. I will, I agree with you on the
point. I guess that's the other thing too. I think,
that I, I, that I agree with you that it was
a felt and even it, that this was an ensemble
film. but also I would even say that andor
was in a lot of ways an ensemble show. because
you know, we, you know, when we think about the rich tapestries
(18:13):
of, of characters that, that
we, that we, we learn about
over the course of, of the, of the two
seasons, you know, you know, we definitely get some more
establishment of, you know, Krennic, especially
in season two.
you know, so at least whenever we see his journey, you know,
(18:33):
we see, critics, you know,
ambition.
>> Sarah (18:39):
really we got. Sorry to cut you
off, but we got way more Krennic in this movie
than we did Andor. However, I
will say his scenes in Andor are better
than his scenes in this movie. Yeah,
it's weird to me, but like. And
maybe it's because we got too much of Krennic
(18:59):
arguably. So like he.
I felt like he was more
of a villain. and probably because
Tarkin wasn't really around during
Andor, at least from m. What we saw. So.
>> Will (19:15):
So.
>> Sarah (19:15):
But. But so. So there wasn't
that. And. And then you had Deidre and
Cyril. So
Krennic was. Came.
Came out there and fully
filling that. That. That next
boss level villain while.
(19:37):
While in Rogue One. Like he.
He could. He. He's. He's the Cyril of
Rogue One.
>> Will (19:44):
Yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah. He's like. Yeah. Especially whenever he gives the line
we stand here amid, M. My achievement, you know, not
yours. Especially when he's. When he's talking to Tarkin. So.
>> Sarah (19:56):
Right.
>> Will (19:56):
You know, so he's just, you know, his. His ambition, you
know, and it was just to your point, you know,
where you know, in. In. In. In
and. Or he was definitely, you know, more center stage because, you know,
we. We whole
you know, Cal Kite backstory and you
know, how is. ISB
(20:17):
was him being a part of the director at
Built. You know, building it. But I will say I will
like. But one thing I do like the hell that andor,
With all the. All the. All the breakdowns and security
and stuff, Whenever you approach. When you see it
know, in. In. In. In Rogue One and how
Vader comes in and like takes over, you know,
(20:38):
the project and stuff. As far as. Because of all the security
failures and everything else. I think it definitely,
you know, show. It reminds me of the conversation
that. That Krennic and part of. Had in Andor. As
far as, you know, save the. Save the speech and the groveling for the.
You know, for Palpatine.
>> Sarah (20:54):
Yeah. Yeah. Like. Like also Darth
Vader's in this movie and
comes and. And we see one of the more iconic
Darth Vader sequences at the end.
So I, I think. I think
it's That's the thing about
Star wars and its villains. It can create really good
(21:15):
villains, but there's always the next one
which. And they always seem to undermine
the previous one that they built Up So it's just
this weird thing and arguably with the
heroes it's a very similar pattern but A
very large galaxy. So.
>> Will (21:32):
Yeah.
>> Sarah (21:33):
So yeah.
>> Will (21:34):
Yeah. Another thing too is just thinking about
grin and then we can We can talk about a couple other things.
But the other thing. The other thing that, that really hit
harder for me as far as when I was saying things hit hard
for me after watching it was just whenever Crank was
looking up at Scarif and seeing the Death Star right before
it, but right before firing on Scariff, just
(21:54):
to just the. To your point about
people you know having their
I guess their moments and the next guys, you know
next in line is Stant is ready to fill in the void.
you know and how. I guess
with both, both shows, both Andor
and also the film of. Of. Of Rogue
(22:16):
One it just really reinforces just
how you know, how expendable and just
basically just a cog and a will that, that how
during that the Empire treated
their. Their sub. Their. Their. Their. Their.
Their subjects. Not only the people,
you know, as far as these planets, but also Just. Just
(22:36):
the people, you know, the Imperial soldiers, you
know in the bureaucracy of, of the
>> Sarah (22:47):
Yeah.
>> Will (22:47):
But what do you think about that? You know we did have a little bit of
the Force, and more. More of the
Force as far as this
show. Then the you know, brief glimpse that we had
in Rogue One. Then we, then we had an
Andor with the Force healer. What were your impressions of that? You
think it was the right amount? You know. Did it not make any
(23:08):
difference to you one way or another? you know, especially
Cassian's You
know, reaction to the faith healer versus you know,
when we. We see Kurt Kirk
who is like you know, one of the wills who like you would you know, guarded the
Jedi Temple there on ah. On Jeddah.
>> Sarah (23:25):
Did he have a different reaction?
>> Will (23:29):
I think he you know.
You know that was where I was. I, I was looking
for that and I didn't really. Yeah,
see. Yeah, I didn't you know given how they
sort of set that up in Andor with the. With ah
the An episode.
>> Sarah (23:46):
Yeah, in the. In Andor Season two. Yeah, two.
>> Will (23:49):
Yeah. You know I did you know I was. I was looking for
that with, with the In. In Rogue One and didn't really
see it as far as the Cassian's
reaction. I think other than I guess when they were first
in Jetta.
>> Sarah (24:01):
Ah.
>> Will (24:01):
I mean he, he wasn't as taken
aback by it, I guess as he was that he, you
know, that. That his reaction was toward the faith
healer there on the camp Yin. As far as my
Star wars rankings, as far as films and stuff, it's still. I think it's
still. It's still in my top, like,
five. I, think it,
you know, after. After season two of
(24:23):
Andor, I was feeling like, you know, it. It was
like, you know, still Empire still number one for me.
But, But I think.
I think I've slid New Hope back up just a little
bit over it again. And now I think it's probably my
third favorite of the bunch.
>> Sarah (24:42):
I think that, I would have
gotten more out
of it and more appreciation because, like,
to go back to our conversation about the
series finale of Andor, like,
I. I did admit that I wanted to watch Rogue
One immediately after it, which is what a
prequel, a good prequel should do. Now, did I know?
(25:04):
Because Will told me
we were doing this, so I withheld, and
I think that's where a, mistake was made.
But I do think that if you're gonna watch
Andor, like, you're gonna inevitably
watch Rogue One, like,
shortly after it, they go hand in hand.
(25:25):
And I think that,
And. And that's. That's good. That's good. I
think as an isolated film,
having seen Andor,
it just. Again,
you're getting. You're getting it. the
story is so quick, and.
(25:47):
And it is all about setting up this
big event that goes on. And we all
know how I feel about Spectacle,
and it also. It's not a
character piece and. Or arguably is
more of a character piece. And then.
But Rogue One is more about
(26:07):
just retconning and making things
right with.
>> Will (26:11):
Yeah, well, I did. I did say,
like. I did say that. Really.
It really. I guess if you. If. If you wanted to, like, look at it
in the. In the sense of, like, TV series or
whatever, just like, it's like a finale.
It's like we did all this setup, and then,
you know.
>> Sarah (26:30):
Yeah, it's. It's like what Stranger Things Season
four, that that final episode will be like. It'll
be that. That kind of finale.
So to that extent, I do.
I mean, I feel like I. I spent a lot of time
berating Andor. And I will say, like,
honestly, re. Watching Rogue One, made me,
(26:50):
like, Jin a lot less as well, because
when I say, like, I saw a lot of hypocrisy with
Andor, I. I didn't mean in the sense that
he was wrong.
I Meant more like, I know more about him,
so some of the things he's saying and doing ain't adding up.
while with Jyn, I was like, I know the same about
(27:12):
you. And, yeah, you're. You
are like one minute poor.
Like, she. I don't. I don't feel like
there's any growth, which is really weird. I.
There's so many. Like, I could probably spend an
hour really nitpicking, but I
won't. we'll move on. But
(27:33):
yeah, like. Like I had
again. I still remember seeing in
theaters and that experience and
really being all in on that
movie. This is just time
away. and probably just
over consumption of Star wars
for me.
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So. On that note, we will move
on to the studio. Season
one, Episode one, the promotion.
Matt Renick is named the new head of
Continental Studios and put in charge of a project that
threatens public humiliation.
So we are going to, for the next
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couple of weeks, be breaking down, the
new show, the studio. The
season's already over. All episodes
have aired. but we are. So we're playing catch
up. And, this is a
bit out of our regular
genre oriented film and
TV show recaps, but,
(28:38):
I've heard a lot of good things about it and Will agreed
that maybe we should sp. Change it up just
a little bit. because we will be getting back
into the superhero stuff in only a few
weeks.
>> Will (28:51):
Yeah.
Yeah.
>> Sarah (28:53):
And. And so.
Hm. Okay. I. I
enjoyed the first episode.
A few things though.
>> Will (29:03):
Yeah.
>> Sarah (29:04):
If I'm. If I look back
at my experience, I,
I have to say I don't think I laughed out
loud a single time. And this is a comedy,
so. Take that. With what he made, there was
just something about the humor. It's. I wasn't. I
wasn't like annoyed or frustrated or was like.
(29:26):
No, the hu. The. The
dialogue is really fast.
The. I was also very much
distracted throughout the entire episode
because. And I am, I'm kind
of curious to hear your thoughts on this. But
the entire episode and what I was not expecting
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the score.
They. They played
jazz up temple. Jazz
music throughout the entire episode.
There's one scene where they pulled it back and it
turned into a piano. score.
And. And I was. I was
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distracted because it wasn't
like you could barely hear it. No. I
felt like there were at times when the dialogue
was competing with this music.
I was like torn into two.
But at the same time I appreciated it
because it allowed
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momentum. And
it's something also that
in looking back At a lot of the things we've
covered over the last years. Few years,
we haven't had a lot of. Like, we've had
scores, but they're usually played over the
course of montages or
(30:50):
like, subtly, played during a
long pause in a scene after somebody says
something. But this. It was just like,
was pacing the entire episode
as. As we watch Matt deal with this
promotion and deal with. I, don't know.
(31:10):
Kool Aid. Kool Aid.
>> Will (31:13):
So.
>> Sarah (31:14):
So I, I did it. I.
I'm still very curious about where we're
going with this, but honestly, it
wasn't the humor that was, like, my big
takeaway. It was just about the use of music
and, and not like
music here on the radio, but like a real
score to
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underscore all of this. This.
This very small show about.
About one person trying,
to make the movies he wants, but also
what the studio wants, which the studio just wants to
make a lot of money. But I don't know what were some of your
big takeaways. Will.
>> Will (31:57):
Yeah. You know, it's funny that you. That you brought up about
the score because I think, you know, for it.
For me, it complimented it like, like, for. For when
I. When I think about it, because it didn't overtake the story.
Because sometimes, Sometimes the scores, they'll overtake things
and, you know, and. And all. But, But
my. It's funny. You know, I. I messaged you. I
(32:18):
didn't watch the show until last night. And,
Not because I just. Not because I wasn't interested. It was just.
Just how. How things broke for me. But I,
I had. So I. I did laugh out loud. I. I
mean, there. I truly. And
whenever I was watching the episode,
And I know whenever it was initially released, I think
(32:38):
they did episodes one and two back to back. But,
But that being said, when I was watching it, I was like,
oh. I was like, first of all,
thank you for suggesting this, because this, this. This show
seemed like it was, like, made for us,
in a sense. And, you know, and. And even though, like
you said, I mean, maybe the. Even if
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you didn't laugh out loud, funny. It is a dramedy.
but. But there's definitely some humor. You know, there
are elements in it that just. Just to me, just.
Just really, really worked. and. And.
And it reminded me of a
show, that. I don't know if you've ever heard of a. Call my
Agent.
>> Sarah (33:19):
No.
>> Will (33:20):
Yeah. So there's a show. There's a show on
Netflix. Well, it's originally from France and
it's now. And it's, it's. It's a global show now.
I mean, there's like other countries spin offs
of it, where,
it's about, it's about a, an agency
entertain, you know, who. People who represents, stars. So
(33:41):
they've just like this show, you know, they have like,
who is. They have the, it's the.
It actor or actress, director,
you know, in the entertainment industry in France.
And, and so when I was watching this, watching the
studio also reminded me
of that show. but this, but this time
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it was on the studio side as far as the
executives who are green lighting projects and, and all
that. So I, you know, so I
was. So once, once I, Once it started,
I was already kind of predisposed to like liking this.
And, and so whenever, whenever I started
watching it, I will say whenever, whenever
(34:22):
it began and we saw it didn't start
how I expected it to, with the whole, with the whole Will Polk
Dano, like, action movie scene, the scene
there with the fighting and all that kind of stuff. I mean,
I like the way it started because it was just like a guy.
It really. Since it is a studio and it really was the
production aspects of it. It just.
(34:44):
I was like, oh, okay, we got this. You know,
we got this. And then, you know, I also love how like Seth
Rogen, you know, Matt Remnick, his character was just
like rolling up there, trying to give notes, and Peter
Berg was just like, no, no, no. You know, and they were just kind
of blowing him off. So. So for me, it was
just like. Is it. It started
(35:05):
off, you know, in a way, I was like, oh, yeah,
I'm gonna like this.
>> Sarah (35:13):
Yeah, yeah. What. So
speaking about that opening, there's a tie in
when he goes to talk to Patty, who he
replaced. And Patty is played by Catherine
o' Hara, who apparently we're
just Catherine o' Hara Summer because we just had her in
Last of Us and now we're getting her as Patty.
(35:33):
Yeah. So
it's great. I love that tie in. And I mean,
Katherine Han, I, is also in this,
AKA Agatha. I. And
I. Maybe that was something that,
if I'm being honest, I love Katherine Han for
some reason. And. And
(35:54):
Agatha was last summer. So you would think I
would be like, somewhat over it. But I
think she. I like, I cannot.
She. I will always relate her to
Agatha.
Like, like, for me, I was
just like, girl, you're trying too hard in the
show. You're not working for me.
>> Will (36:17):
Oh, she totally. I think her character's name is Maya. I
think, yeah, totally worked for
me. I was just, like, digging it. It just like, reminded me of,
like, why Katherine Hahn is just so, This is such an
amazing performer. because I, I didn't.
I. I hear what you're saying. I think, you know, for about
maybe the first couple moments there,
(36:38):
yeah, it was like, okay, I had to reorient myself.
But. But once we really got into it, especially when they
came up. When she came up with the promo that they were going
to like, show, the. The
studio, the press, the CEO.
Yeah, yeah. Brian Cancer's character, CR's character.
I was like, oh, yeah. yeah. I mean, all of that
(36:58):
and just also, just the whole scene with the whole bit where they're, like, trying
to like, make it, you know, even. Even with Seth Rogen's
character was just like, you know, seeing the promo at first and trying to,
like, try to figure out how this.
How that. That promo, you know,
because he's, you know, it's that tension of trying to
be, you know, trying to, like,
(37:19):
make. Be an Al tour and make these, like,
you know, films that are, you know, you know,
movies versus film, you know,
and, you know, trying to make these things.
I, you know, I. I thought she really, really sold,
you know, to me, she really sold it as far as being that marketing
person. And whenever they were having the back and forth as far as
(37:39):
just like, you know, you know, whatever.
The back and forth about whether or not this is
going to work or not. As far as how do you. How do you. How do you. How do
you market Steve Busimi and then how they could even.
And even trying to figure out.
>> Sarah (37:54):
Yeah, yeah, that. That stuff. Stuff is
good because they did say a lot
of stuff that, audience educated
audience members usually
want to say. Like, like.
And. And all these are all
factors, like the mechanics,
of getting a film not made,
(38:17):
but even greenlit, and
trying to think about, like, okay, you're. This
is a product at the end of the day, and you're trying
to sell it to an audience. So,
yeah, you may want a. An
actor who, is quote,
unquote, well known to like,
(38:37):
a niche group, but that won't sell a
movie. I mean, we always talk about movie stars, granted,
movie stars. There's also the current
conversation that movie stars are dead. And
like, it's more about the IP
and the franchise, which they get into the
IP and, And the. The other
ongoing bit is this whole discussion about
(38:59):
like Barbie making a ton of
money and. But. But
Barbie also, like, there's a lot of
factors into it and it's not just
because, like, of Greta Gerwig,
like, I didn't really buy into that point that
Matt made. Like, and it's not
because of Margot Robbie or Ryan Gosling.
(39:22):
It's. It's because it.
It's. I still have yet to see the movie, but from
what I understand, it's a good movie. A, it is.
>> Will (39:31):
Yep. It is.
>> Sarah (39:33):
So. So B, it also. Because
it's about a doll. It's marketed to
children, but it's also for the parents.
Like, and it came out right to.
And it came out as Connor counter programming
for Oppenheimer and then you had Barbenheimer.
So like, there were so many factors. And
(39:54):
so I'm curious to see how much they
continue down that. All of that,
like, that was a once in a lifetime.
but hearing the pitches about Kool Aid,
and you get your Jamestown version,
the Martin Scorsese evil
dark version, and then you get like
(40:15):
the. The the other version
from Nic Fuller. And.
And it's just. It's just like,
yeah, yeah, this makes sense. This adds up.
And I think. I think the. That
what really has this show going for it and probably why
a lot of people first looked into it
and got hooked is
(40:37):
authenticity. Like. Like Seth
Rogen's behind it. He's been in the game for a while,
like wearing multiple hats, so
he A, has access to a lot of people
already flaunting it. And B,
you know that he's gonna come at
it from a very authentic place.
(41:01):
and so. And so it'll. It'll. I, ah.
Like know
the humor for whatever reason did not hit for
me in this one episode, but the story
overall again has me very interested
and curious. And I think there's
that. It's. It's also a
(41:23):
fresh breath, fresh air.
Yeah, I mean, I mean this
isn't a show where I'm gonna sit here and break down
every single scene and Easter egg and all of that,
because it's not that kind of show. It's much more
of like a bear where we're gonna get a few
episodes and go over like a character
arc, one or two depending on what
(41:45):
happens. But it's. It's also not
layered in mythology and
and stuff, that.
That are. Is in other shows.
But.
>> Will (41:57):
Yeah, no, I completely agree. I think that's part. I think,
you know, after. After
coming off, the Last of Us And. Andor.
And, you know, even, you know, and also before that,
we had Daredevil. So we've just had,
I think so far this year, we've
had two shows that are not. That are
(42:18):
truly, like, original
stories or original, like, you know, original
type things. Paradise and now
the studio. And I think they're. And this
is why I always. I.
And I will give
proper hat tip to you for suggesting that we
(42:39):
do these things, because I think it is a nice palette
cleanser from, from the.
The IP driven, you know, content
that's out there. Because. Yeah, because, I mean,
you know, because watching this show, it's just like, oh, yeah, you
know, because. Not, you know, clearly,
because we have, you know, Our
(43:00):
primary focus here on the pod is the big
IP driven kind of things. And so to
have this satire
come after, you know, just back to. Back to, Back to
back of, Of. Of the big ip, I was
like, this is a real palate cleanser. And I just, like, I just, I just really
enjoyed it. And just seeing that discuss, you know, seeing that
(43:21):
tension that, that, you
know, Matt Remnick has about,
you know, wanting to, like,
have true art
versus the, the popcorn, you know,
thing that, you know, the Kool Aid store, you know, the Kool Aid, you
know, just get butts and seats and, you know, I'll spend
(43:42):
$10 million, you know, to get our.
That was the other funny thing too, was just like,
oh, he was just trying to use this. Literally making
it up, this as he went along. Just like, you
know, we spent $10 million to buy sores
script. And then he's like, yeah, I bought it to,
like, to kill it. And it really.
>> Sarah (44:02):
Yeah, yeah, it was, it was a very smart
way to get the character out of that situation.
yeah, it's very well written, but
I. So I don't
think now I haven't seen
enough of this show to know for sure. But
I don't. I don't necessarily think that
(44:25):
he wants to be an auteur. Like,
I think that he just wants to make good movies.
Like, I just
feel like from what we
saw and the way it's spoken about
is that
(44:45):
you.
I, I, I think, because he's also a
studio person, so he's not behind the camera.
He's not, he's not in front of the
camera as an actor, so. And they always
talk about. Actors and directors always talk about
story, storytelling and wanting to.
(45:05):
So I just feel like
Matt and the way they've introduced
the studio to us, like, they're
in the business of making movies now.
What grits greenlit, like what movies get.
Get made. That. That's the big
concept that's getting brought. Like, it all
falls on him. Decide to decide what gets made and
(45:28):
what doesn't like. And so
then we're presented with this IP and it's like,
okay, you got to build a story and then you got these
two different versions going on in very
unexpected ways. So
I don't even know if it's a conversation yet
fully about, like, IP
(45:49):
versus versus original
storytelling because arguably Martin
Scorsese's wasn't even original because that's about
an. An actual event that did happen.
Like, and probably have had several
iterations already done before, but this is a brand
new retelling, blah, blah, blah. And so.
And just because of all of that,
(46:12):
just because something's original doesn't mean it's good.
And, and what? Earlier this year, we were talking about
your friendly neighborhood spider man, and we were just
like, this isn't original. But it feels
so refreshing.
>> Will (46:25):
Yeah. Yeah, exactly.
>> Sarah (46:27):
Like, it's, it's so
right now, given everything that
has happened in terms of sports, specifically
comic book movies and TV shows and
franchises and those known ips,
this explosion.
It's an, it's an interesting conversation because I don't,
(46:48):
I don't feel like a
good movie and a,
A, an IP are mutually exclusive.
Like, there are a lot of good movies that are based on
IP are not original.
But there is something to be
said for how that is,
(47:10):
is drenching the marketplace and
allowing fewer original ideas
to get made less and less. Like,
I wonder if this,
this show will go into
the romantic comedy area because
I, There is a subtle conversation
going on right now about how, like,
(47:33):
romantic comedies are few and far between, but
like 10, 15 years ago, it
was like every other week a new one was coming out and
it was like a. Mechanisms before
McConnas.
>> Will (47:49):
Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. You know, as we,
as we, as we dive deeper into the. I guess
it's ten episodes. yeah, first
season has. I, I'm hopeful that we will, we will
get. Get that. Because, I mean, I think even Matt,
to your point, I think even Matt, Seth, Rogen's character even made
that point. It's just like, you know, you can, you can
(48:09):
have block, you know, you can have good films. And I, you know, they're
not mutually exclusive.
>> Sarah (48:13):
no, no.
>> Will (48:15):
And so I think that's what he was. I think that's the tension that, like you said,
oh yeah, maybe I was. When I was, when I was saying
I'm. He was, you know, he was, you know, he,
whenever he was, you know, trying to
shoehorn his vision of like. Yeah, making
good films. But also I gotta make a
shitload of money to keep my job. Otherwise I'm end up like Patty.
(48:35):
You know, when he fell upon Scorsese, he was trying to like, you
know, that's what I thought was so well, why this
pilot was just so well written
to really, you know, hit that point of what we were just talking about
here. It's like you can have a good film, but I
can also, you know, but I can also, you
know, just because it's artsy fartsy doesn't necessarily mean
(48:56):
it has to be, you know, you know, you know,
go, go broke. I mean it could all, you know, you can have a great film
and it can also be based off the Kool Aid, which
I thought that was just like, you know. Oh
yeah, you know, so.
>> Sarah (49:11):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So. So for the next
two weeks we will be doing
neck, three episodes each week.
and then we're gonna go back to one offs as
Ironheart will begin at the end of this month.
So, and, and just for warning to our
listeners, we are entering when
(49:31):
Ironheart begins our schedule will be very
chaotic. We will be jumping
around from Tuesday nights to Thursday nights
to a Wednesday night, back to a Thursday night.
So, so just, just forewarning,
and bear with us as we try to hit
everything as freshly as possible because
(49:53):
we got two giant movies also in
July as we're trying
to wrap up, a few different shows.
so, so stay tuned. But for, for the
next two weeks at least we're going to be talking about the story
studio, and we hope you,
you are along for the ride. So on that note, Will,
(50:13):
why don't you tell our listeners where they can find you?
>> Will (50:16):
Yes, you can find me on all the socials at
Will and Polk, W I L L M P O
L.
>> Sarah (50:22):
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Geek out. You're welcome.
Music
>> Sarah (00:13):
Greetings Nerds, This is Scene N Nerd. I'm your host, Sarah
Belmont. and with me, as always, is our Mr. Producer, Will Polk How are you doing
tonight, Will?
>> Will (00:18):
Doing very well, Sarah. How you doing this Tuesday evening?
>> Sarah (00:21):
I'm doing good, but. So,
Okay. I don't know if our listeners have noticed,
but a few weeks ago, Will made
an executive decision and kicked all of our news
items to the end of the show, which I'm
fine with. I am perfectly fine with.
But now
(00:42):
it's when he does these little things where
I'm like, we're really going to save that for the end of the
show. That's a great opener. Why
does Will hate Stranger Things?
>> Will (00:53):
Let's start right there. Okay. I Don't hate
Stranger Things.
>> Sarah (00:59):
Well, okay, you. You
may not hate it, but
I'm just.
>> Will (01:05):
I've just forgotten what the hell happened with it. It's just been,
like, what, 10. It's been like, 10. 10 years. And,
like, it's like.
>> Sarah (01:13):
Okay, you don't remember
the mo. The only thing that I arguably
remember. Well, I remember a
few things. Vecna, the Big
Bad, was what we found
out was, like, the original
was also created by the same people who created 11.
And like, they. They had
(01:36):
a relationship of sorts, and
she. So. So they tied it very
cleverly all the way back to the first episode, to the
pilot episode. So that's. That's everything going on with
11, and that's the only important stuff because
90 of what happens in seasons three
and four revolving around 11 does
(01:56):
not matter except for that fact.
Okay, then. Then the other most
important thing, the. The
only reason why I remember season four
and, and season four has stuck with me is
because of Sadie Sink and
her whole, like, Vecna going after
(02:18):
her and. And then. And then us not
knowing if she's alive or dead
because we see in her mind, like, she's
unconscious, in a coma, and
she's no longer in that living room
space. So I remember things.
I do agree with you. Like,
Stranger Things is one of those shows where
(02:42):
hits the. The, the zeitgeist,
and then it disappears. And then you. You're
like, oh, like I've forgotten about you.
But every time we come
back to it, I feel like, for better or for
worse, like, especially season four, I was
checked out after season three, but.
But like Maya Hawk, I remember, was the
(03:04):
only reason why I liked season three.
and was still someone on board. Maya
and. And Steve like
their dynamic. So. So the.
For whatever reason, I feel like it's one of
those shows where honestly, I think time apart is
important.
>> Will (03:23):
Yeah.
>> Sarah (03:24):
and then it'll hit. And, and,
and this is the last time it'll hit. And it's coming
in three parts. We got the first part
now. Now all I hear is parts. So you're
gonna have to fill me in on how many episodes we're
expecting on, what was it, November
26th, this Christmas Day.
And New Year's.
>> Will (03:46):
Yeah, New Year's Eve. So it's eight. It's eight episodes for
the final season.
>> Sarah (03:50):
Each.
>> Will (03:52):
No, total.
>> Sarah (03:54):
Total. So how many parts? Like
part one we're getting how many? no, there's three
parts.
>> Will (04:01):
Right.
>> Sarah (04:02):
So how did they divide it?
>> Will (04:04):
I don't, I haven't looked to see how they
have broken it down, but I did look to see what was the
episode count. It was like eight episodes.
>> Sarah (04:13):
Okay.
>> Will (04:14):
Yeah.
>> Sarah (04:14):
Okay. I wonder which one got short.
Probably the New Year's Eve. It is probably going to
be 332. Yeah,
yeah. Okay, that makes sense.
>> Will (04:26):
yeah, because I would think one of them would be like a very
like feature, almost a feature length, you know,
ending or, or, or, or beginning. So.
>> Sarah (04:34):
Yeah, yeah. The New Year's. The New Year's Eve is going to be
like that one. The ending, the,
the like and, and, but we don't know
episode links because I remember season four, especially
the second half of season four, it was like,
whoa, we may be
getting four episodes, but they were like
(04:55):
two hours long each.
>> Will (04:57):
So, so yeah, so I went quickly, while we
were talking, I went to netflix.com because
they, they did the big to dumb release that they're
big like streaming thing over the
weekend. and so it's going to be four
episodes on November
26th.
>> Sarah (05:15):
Right?
>> Will (05:16):
That's on Christmas. And the finale will be New Year's
Day, a New Year's Eve.
>> Sarah (05:20):
Oh, so they go, they went four, three,
one. But that one episode will probably be
three and a half hours long.
>> Will (05:27):
Probably.
Exactly, exactly.
>> Sarah (05:33):
And I will probably fast forward 40 minutes of
it.
>> Will (05:37):
Yeah, you know, I, ah, I did. Yeah, because I guess,
you know, they did have their big event over the weekend and that
they did have a, I guess a sizzle reel
that had maybe basically was like a recap
of like, I did watch it. It just had like a recap. It just pretty
much everything up to this point and then just
a few, just a hand. Just a handful
(05:58):
of scenes. Not even a handful, just
a tease of scenes, for the final season, which, you know,
which obviously you know, which makes, makes total sense and
you know it's one of those things everybody's gonna tune in. So you don't need a
full. You don't need a trailer?
>> Sarah (06:11):
No, no, no. also at that event
and also what we are expecting to arrive now
in 2026, early 2026 is
One Piece season two. Did they show
anything? I mean, I, I know we got teased the
character because I forget the character's name,
but they showed up.
>> Will (06:30):
Yeah, Tony. Tony Chopper, which apparently.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I know
the Internet's went nuts because apparently, you
know, both of us are, are non
watchers of the. Or readers of the manga
or watch or animated stuff.
So we're coming to a fresh, you know,
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eyes, no backstory, but I just
know all the fandom and we're
very, very excited with the news of this particular character showing up.
So.
>> Sarah (07:00):
Yeah.
>> Will (07:00):
So, yes, if you're a one piece,
aficionado and can, you know, can fill us in on
just what the backstory is, for for
this character. please, I'm happy to, Happy to
hear it. So just, just hit it in the comments or, or hit
us on our socials.
>> Sarah (07:16):
Yeah, but, but limit because don't
spoil.
>> Will (07:19):
That's for.
>> Sarah (07:20):
Yeah, like, like, sure, sure.
Give it grace. I know that's like, that's the
hardest thing to do. And you know this. Like,
you, you want to tell people information,
but then again, you have to be. You can't
spoil anything because a, part of the reason
why I liked One Piece Season one is because I, I
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didn't have any, any
sense of the world. Like, they really
had to develop it for me and flesh out
the live action version of this world
and, and I had to get into it that way
as opposed to, oh, well, I'm gonna watch this
show. So let me do a,
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What is One Piece 101?
Like, it's. I don't know. I, I'm.
But so, so I've done the same thing.
Yeah. Yeah, little overviews are good. But.
But be careful. we don't have to wait
for 2026 for the next one. But we are
anticipating it, I think in September of
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this year, Gen V Season two. And I did
watch the trailer
and. Yeah. Yeah, like,
let's go.
>> Will (08:32):
Yep, exactly. Yeah, I,
I really, you know, really enjoyed that
trailer. and you know, it did. Obviously we
did. We sadly did lose a chance.
Pernomo, as he was sadly heading to
film season two and had that tragic motor,
motorcycle accident. But, but you know, they
did work it, you Know, we did see how they were going to work it into
(08:54):
the, in the trailer and, but also, you know,
we do see a new superintendent for the school and,
and since. And also the tie ins
to the, the previous, season of the
Boy. So, yeah, I'm like, I'm with you.
Like, let's go.
>> Sarah (09:12):
Yep. Yep, let's, let's go.
>> Will (09:15):
So, yeah, but the first, yeah, but the
first three episodes will drop September 17th and
then the ballot, the remaining five will,
air each Wednesday, concluding, on October
22nd.
>> Sarah (09:29):
All right, well, now that we're done talking about
things that are new and ahead, we must
revisit the past because Will made me.
and we both have rewatched Rogue
One A Star Wars Story, because
obviously we've Finished Andor Season 2
Not Too Long ago.
and, and so Will, Why don't you kick us
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off on this revisit to this movie?
>> Will (09:53):
Yeah, well, before I hit the rewatch of
the whole of, Rogue One, we're also covering the studio
tonight. So we're basically going to the galaxy far, far
away and then we're also going to be
talking about Rogue One, which, Yeah, I just really
wanted to just know your thoughts
after watching
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Andor. What was,
what was your initial impression with Rogue One
whenever you first watched the film and then now
after Andor. How has that changed
your, your, your thoughts about the movie?
Sarah?
>> Sarah (10:31):
Okay, okay. Everyone heard the question
and everyone knows that I'm being gonna be honest.
my initial impression of the movie. I, I, loved
Rogue One. I remember watching it in theaters, having
a blast re watching it after
and, or season two. Did not like it as much.
Did not like it as much for
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so many reasons.
but, but yeah, yeah, so, so that
is that. Yep, that is my
answer. Yeah.
>> Will (11:02):
No, I mean, and that's, that's, I appreciate your
honesty. I mean, I, you know, I,
I, I've watched it twice now after, after
I watched it immediately after I finished Andor.
And, and then I watched it again,
this, this, this past weekend. And I
will say I think after the initial
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high of like coming off of
season two of Andor. Yeah.
And I even said before it definitely hits different.
and, and I still think it does. I mean, I think it
definitely fleshes out a lot of things
and we'll, you know, we can get into it as we, as we discuss it
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here tonight. But, but on second
re. Watch after having a, having a
week or so after, after the finale
of Andor, I, I definitely
There are some definite things with it
where that, that. That high
that I had before, some of the
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elements, all of this. Elements of the. Of. Of
Rogue One, don't hit.
Don't work as
well for me. But also, But there are some
things that. That really double down my
feelings about
other. Other. Other aspects of the film. And one of the first ones
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is, you know, really
Cassian's journey. To me, really, I think
Andor definitely makes Cassian's journey
and the Cassian Andor that we see and
in Rogue One, I. I, feel like it definitely elevates
his story before because I remember when I initially watched
Rogue One and especially thinking back to 20, guess
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19 or 18, when they like were going to have this
series, you know, it. It.
I, was like Of the characters in this film, you
know, I always
thought it was generous of his film. And, and that's the other
thing too. Even with Cassian's story being
fleshed out more, I still feel like this,
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that. That Rogue One is still Jen's story.
>> Sarah (13:17):
Yeah. Yeah.
M.
But they're.
>> Will (13:23):
But they're. Yeah.
>> Sarah (13:28):
What were you gonna say?
>> Will (13:29):
No, but, but, but, but, but no, I still feel
as Jen story. But also. I see. But
also, I think especially on the second re watch,
the. The parallels between the two characters
are just even more pronounced to me now than they
were when I did the initial re watch, a couple weeks ago.
>> Sarah (13:47):
Yeah. Yeah.
I just. I mean, like
coming off of Andor season two, I. I think
Andor is a bit judgmental of Jin.
I, do that. And honestly, upon
re watching, I don't think this is movies anybody's story.
Like, they great. it's
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so quick. Everything is so quick.
And I feel like the final battle
lasts at least half of the movie, if not like a
good third of the movie long. So, so
they. I was. That's what took me back.
Like, I was like, whoa. I don't. I thought,
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man, we. We barely get anything.
And. And it's just like introduce this
character, introduce this character, introduce this character.
This character, this MacGuffin. This, this.
And to get the crew together to get
them all on Jetta and everything. Like,
yeah, it's Jin's story because
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the father aspect of course, and
the Krennic, like. And I do appreciate
overall all of the dialogue about
like, which side are you on?
And the. The grayness
in this movie. And I think that's what I enjoyed about
it the first time I watched it. But the
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second time I just I was,
I was sitting there like, well, and or now that I know
your story and how you came here, like,
who are you to call Jen the flip flopper
when like a year prior
you were ready to to abandon the
rebellion? You're a
bit high and mighty to be like,
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I don't know, there was just a few things
and then some of the dialogue
just the rebellion was built on hope. I'm
just like, okay, I feel like I've heard this line
now 600 times, so can
we ixnay on it? and it's just I,
I think that I know
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everyone compares this movie to
like a war film,
which, which is true. And, and, and
I think that in, in a lot
of war films, I'm gonna, I'm gonna pull a
Nolan Dunkirk. So
Dunkirk isn't about any of the
soldiers. It's about the event.
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It's an event based movie. Pearl
harbor, like
really that should have been about the event,
but they tacked on a full love
triangle and all of this other stuff. So
it was about the event and like an hour
and a half of bs.
(16:38):
So, so in this movie, I think to
an extent if I, I feel like
part of the angle was like this is more
about rectifying
how these plans got to where they needed
to go in solving this mystery and
also why, why it was so
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easy to destroy the Death Star, like
to retcon all of that.
Like they, they,
they skimmed and they gave us like,
like surface, level characters. But
I, I just have a hard time after re
watching it and just spending what
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felt like 1800 hours with Andor
that this
movie is, is not anyone's story.
I mean it does say a Star wars story. It's
about this, how to
defeat the Death Star and like everyone
else. And I think also because everyone dies.
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So like they're gonna
only spend so much time they, they have like what,
25 characters set up in this
movie.
>> Will (17:51):
There were a lot. There were a lot. I will, I agree with you on the
point. I guess that's the other thing too. I think,
that I, I, that I agree with you that it was
a felt and even it, that this was an ensemble
film. but also I would even say that andor
was in a lot of ways an ensemble show. because
you know, we, you know, when we think about the rich tapestries
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of, of characters that, that
we, that we, we learn about
over the course of, of the, of the two
seasons, you know, you know, we definitely get some more
establishment of, you know, Krennic, especially
in season two.
you know, so at least whenever we see his journey, you know,
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we see, critics, you know,
ambition.
>> Sarah (18:39):
really we got. Sorry to cut you
off, but we got way more Krennic in this movie
than we did Andor. However, I
will say his scenes in Andor are better
than his scenes in this movie. Yeah,
it's weird to me, but like. And
maybe it's because we got too much of Krennic
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arguably. So like he.
I felt like he was more
of a villain. and probably because
Tarkin wasn't really around during
Andor, at least from m. What we saw. So.
>> Will (19:15):
So.
>> Sarah (19:15):
But. But so. So there wasn't
that. And. And then you had Deidre and
Cyril. So
Krennic was. Came.
Came out there and fully
filling that. That. That next
boss level villain while.
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While in Rogue One. Like he.
He could. He. He's. He's the Cyril of
Rogue One.
>> Will (19:44):
Yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah. He's like. Yeah. Especially whenever he gives the line
we stand here amid, M. My achievement, you know, not
yours. Especially when he's. When he's talking to Tarkin. So.
>> Sarah (19:56):
Right.
>> Will (19:56):
You know, so he's just, you know, his. His ambition, you
know, and it was just to your point, you know,
where you know, in. In. In. In
and. Or he was definitely, you know, more center stage because, you know,
we. We whole
you know, Cal Kite backstory and you
know, how is. ISB
(20:17):
was him being a part of the director at
Built. You know, building it. But I will say I will
like. But one thing I do like the hell that andor,
With all the. All the. All the breakdowns and security
and stuff, Whenever you approach. When you see it
know, in. In. In. In Rogue One and how
Vader comes in and like takes over, you know,
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the project and stuff. As far as. Because of all the security
failures and everything else. I think it definitely,
you know, show. It reminds me of the conversation
that. That Krennic and part of. Had in Andor. As
far as, you know, save the. Save the speech and the groveling for the.
You know, for Palpatine.
>> Sarah (20:54):
Yeah. Yeah. Like. Like also Darth
Vader's in this movie and
comes and. And we see one of the more iconic
Darth Vader sequences at the end.
So I, I think. I think
it's That's the thing about
Star wars and its villains. It can create really good
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villains, but there's always the next one
which. And they always seem to undermine
the previous one that they built Up So it's just
this weird thing and arguably with the
heroes it's a very similar pattern but A
very large galaxy. So.
>> Will (21:32):
Yeah.
>> Sarah (21:33):
So yeah.
>> Will (21:34):
Yeah. Another thing too is just thinking about
grin and then we can We can talk about a couple other things.
But the other thing. The other thing that, that really hit
harder for me as far as when I was saying things hit hard
for me after watching it was just whenever Crank was
looking up at Scarif and seeing the Death Star right before
it, but right before firing on Scariff, just
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to just the. To your point about
people you know having their
I guess their moments and the next guys, you know
next in line is Stant is ready to fill in the void.
you know and how. I guess
with both, both shows, both Andor
and also the film of. Of. Of Rogue
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One it just really reinforces just
how you know, how expendable and just
basically just a cog and a will that, that how
during that the Empire treated
their. Their sub. Their. Their. Their. Their.
Their subjects. Not only the people,
you know, as far as these planets, but also Just. Just
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the people, you know, the Imperial soldiers, you
know in the bureaucracy of, of the
>> Sarah (22:47):
Yeah.
>> Will (22:47):
But what do you think about that? You know we did have a little bit of
the Force, and more. More of the
Force as far as this
show. Then the you know, brief glimpse that we had
in Rogue One. Then we, then we had an
Andor with the Force healer. What were your impressions of that? You
think it was the right amount? You know. Did it not make any
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difference to you one way or another? you know, especially
Cassian's You
know, reaction to the faith healer versus you know,
when we. We see Kurt Kirk
who is like you know, one of the wills who like you would you know, guarded the
Jedi Temple there on ah. On Jeddah.
>> Sarah (23:25):
Did he have a different reaction?
>> Will (23:29):
I think he you know.
You know that was where I was. I, I was looking
for that and I didn't really. Yeah,
see. Yeah, I didn't you know given how they
sort of set that up in Andor with the. With ah
the An episode.
>> Sarah (23:46):
Yeah, in the. In Andor Season two. Yeah, two.
>> Will (23:49):
Yeah. You know I did you know I was. I was looking for
that with, with the In. In Rogue One and didn't really
see it as far as the Cassian's
reaction. I think other than I guess when they were first
in Jetta.
>> Sarah (24:01):
Ah.
>> Will (24:01):
I mean he, he wasn't as taken
aback by it, I guess as he was that he, you
know, that. That his reaction was toward the faith
healer there on the camp Yin. As far as my
Star wars rankings, as far as films and stuff, it's still. I think it's
still. It's still in my top, like,
five. I, think it,
you know, after. After season two of
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Andor, I was feeling like, you know, it. It was
like, you know, still Empire still number one for me.
But, But I think.
I think I've slid New Hope back up just a little
bit over it again. And now I think it's probably my
third favorite of the bunch.
>> Sarah (24:42):
I think that, I would have
gotten more out
of it and more appreciation because, like,
to go back to our conversation about the
series finale of Andor, like,
I. I did admit that I wanted to watch Rogue
One immediately after it, which is what a
prequel, a good prequel should do. Now, did I know?
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Because Will told me
we were doing this, so I withheld, and
I think that's where a, mistake was made.
But I do think that if you're gonna watch
Andor, like, you're gonna inevitably
watch Rogue One, like,
shortly after it, they go hand in hand.
(25:25):
And I think that,
And. And that's. That's good. That's good. I
think as an isolated film,
having seen Andor,
it just. Again,
you're getting. You're getting it. the
story is so quick, and.
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And it is all about setting up this
big event that goes on. And we all
know how I feel about Spectacle,
and it also. It's not a
character piece and. Or arguably is
more of a character piece. And then.
But Rogue One is more about
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just retconning and making things
right with.
>> Will (26:11):
Yeah, well, I did. I did say,
like. I did say that. Really.
It really. I guess if you. If. If you wanted to, like, look at it
in the. In the sense of, like, TV series or
whatever, just like, it's like a finale.
It's like we did all this setup, and then,
you know.
>> Sarah (26:30):
Yeah, it's. It's like what Stranger Things Season
four, that that final episode will be like. It'll
be that. That kind of finale.
So to that extent, I do.
I mean, I feel like I. I spent a lot of time
berating Andor. And I will say, like,
honestly, re. Watching Rogue One, made me,
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like, Jin a lot less as well, because
when I say, like, I saw a lot of hypocrisy with
Andor, I. I didn't mean in the sense that
he was wrong.
I Meant more like, I know more about him,
so some of the things he's saying and doing ain't adding up.
while with Jyn, I was like, I know the same about
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you. And, yeah, you're. You
are like one minute poor.
Like, she. I don't. I don't feel like
there's any growth, which is really weird. I.
There's so many. Like, I could probably spend an
hour really nitpicking, but I
won't. we'll move on. But
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yeah, like. Like I had
again. I still remember seeing in
theaters and that experience and
really being all in on that
movie. This is just time
away. and probably just
over consumption of Star wars
for me.
(27:55):
So. On that note, we will move
on to the studio. Season
one, Episode one, the promotion.
Matt Renick is named the new head of
Continental Studios and put in charge of a project that
threatens public humiliation.
So we are going to, for the next
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couple of weeks, be breaking down, the
new show, the studio. The
season's already over. All episodes
have aired. but we are. So we're playing catch
up. And, this is a
bit out of our regular
genre oriented film and
TV show recaps, but,
(28:38):
I've heard a lot of good things about it and Will agreed
that maybe we should sp. Change it up just
a little bit. because we will be getting back
into the superhero stuff in only a few
weeks.
>> Will (28:51):
Yeah.
Yeah.
>> Sarah (28:53):
And. And so.
Hm. Okay. I. I
enjoyed the first episode.
A few things though.
>> Will (29:03):
Yeah.
>> Sarah (29:04):
If I'm. If I look back
at my experience, I,
I have to say I don't think I laughed out
loud a single time. And this is a comedy,
so. Take that. With what he made, there was
just something about the humor. It's. I wasn't. I
wasn't like annoyed or frustrated or was like.
(29:26):
No, the hu. The. The
dialogue is really fast.
The. I was also very much
distracted throughout the entire episode
because. And I am, I'm kind
of curious to hear your thoughts on this. But
the entire episode and what I was not expecting
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the score.
They. They played
jazz up temple. Jazz
music throughout the entire episode.
There's one scene where they pulled it back and it
turned into a piano. score.
And. And I was. I was
(30:08):
distracted because it wasn't
like you could barely hear it. No. I
felt like there were at times when the dialogue
was competing with this music.
I was like torn into two.
But at the same time I appreciated it
because it allowed
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momentum. And
it's something also that
in looking back At a lot of the things we've
covered over the last years. Few years,
we haven't had a lot of. Like, we've had
scores, but they're usually played over the
course of montages or
(30:50):
like, subtly, played during a
long pause in a scene after somebody says
something. But this. It was just like,
was pacing the entire episode
as. As we watch Matt deal with this
promotion and deal with. I, don't know.
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Kool Aid. Kool Aid.
>> Will (31:13):
So.
>> Sarah (31:14):
So I, I did it. I.
I'm still very curious about where we're
going with this, but honestly, it
wasn't the humor that was, like, my big
takeaway. It was just about the use of music
and, and not like
music here on the radio, but like a real
score to
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underscore all of this. This.
This very small show about.
About one person trying,
to make the movies he wants, but also
what the studio wants, which the studio just wants to
make a lot of money. But I don't know what were some of your
big takeaways. Will.
>> Will (31:57):
Yeah. You know, it's funny that you. That you brought up about
the score because I think, you know, for it.
For me, it complimented it like, like, for. For when
I. When I think about it, because it didn't overtake the story.
Because sometimes, Sometimes the scores, they'll overtake things
and, you know, and. And all. But, But
my. It's funny. You know, I. I messaged you. I
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didn't watch the show until last night. And,
Not because I just. Not because I wasn't interested. It was just.
Just how. How things broke for me. But I,
I had. So I. I did laugh out loud. I. I
mean, there. I truly. And
whenever I was watching the episode,
And I know whenever it was initially released, I think
(32:38):
they did episodes one and two back to back. But,
But that being said, when I was watching it, I was like,
oh. I was like, first of all,
thank you for suggesting this, because this, this. This show
seemed like it was, like, made for us,
in a sense. And, you know, and. And even though, like
you said, I mean, maybe the. Even if
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you didn't laugh out loud, funny. It is a dramedy.
but. But there's definitely some humor. You know, there
are elements in it that just. Just to me, just.
Just really, really worked. and. And.
And it reminded me of a
show, that. I don't know if you've ever heard of a. Call my
Agent.
>> Sarah (33:19):
No.
>> Will (33:20):
Yeah. So there's a show. There's a show on
Netflix. Well, it's originally from France and
it's now. And it's, it's. It's a global show now.
I mean, there's like other countries spin offs
of it, where,
it's about, it's about a, an agency
entertain, you know, who. People who represents, stars. So
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they've just like this show, you know, they have like,
who is. They have the, it's the.
It actor or actress, director,
you know, in the entertainment industry in France.
And, and so when I was watching this, watching the
studio also reminded me
of that show. but this, but this time
(34:02):
it was on the studio side as far as the
executives who are green lighting projects and, and all
that. So I, you know, so I
was. So once, once I, Once it started,
I was already kind of predisposed to like liking this.
And, and so whenever, whenever I started
watching it, I will say whenever, whenever
(34:22):
it began and we saw it didn't start
how I expected it to, with the whole, with the whole Will Polk
Dano, like, action movie scene, the scene
there with the fighting and all that kind of stuff. I mean,
I like the way it started because it was just like a guy.
It really. Since it is a studio and it really was the
production aspects of it. It just.
(34:44):
I was like, oh, okay, we got this. You know,
we got this. And then, you know, I also love how like Seth
Rogen, you know, Matt Remnick, his character was just
like rolling up there, trying to give notes, and Peter
Berg was just like, no, no, no. You know, and they were just kind
of blowing him off. So. So for me, it was
just like. Is it. It started
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off, you know, in a way, I was like, oh, yeah,
I'm gonna like this.
>> Sarah (35:13):
Yeah, yeah. What. So
speaking about that opening, there's a tie in
when he goes to talk to Patty, who he
replaced. And Patty is played by Catherine
o' Hara, who apparently we're
just Catherine o' Hara Summer because we just had her in
Last of Us and now we're getting her as Patty.
(35:33):
Yeah. So
it's great. I love that tie in. And I mean,
Katherine Han, I, is also in this,
AKA Agatha. I. And
I. Maybe that was something that,
if I'm being honest, I love Katherine Han for
some reason. And. And
(35:54):
Agatha was last summer. So you would think I
would be like, somewhat over it. But I
think she. I like, I cannot.
She. I will always relate her to
Agatha.
Like, like, for me, I was
just like, girl, you're trying too hard in the
show. You're not working for me.
>> Will (36:17):
Oh, she totally. I think her character's name is Maya. I
think, yeah, totally worked for
me. I was just, like, digging it. It just like, reminded me of,
like, why Katherine Hahn is just so, This is such an
amazing performer. because I, I didn't.
I. I hear what you're saying. I think, you know, for about
maybe the first couple moments there,
(36:38):
yeah, it was like, okay, I had to reorient myself.
But. But once we really got into it, especially when they
came up. When she came up with the promo that they were going
to like, show, the. The
studio, the press, the CEO.
Yeah, yeah. Brian Cancer's character, CR's character.
I was like, oh, yeah. yeah. I mean, all of that
(36:58):
and just also, just the whole scene with the whole bit where they're, like, trying
to like, make it, you know, even. Even with Seth Rogen's
character was just like, you know, seeing the promo at first and trying to,
like, try to figure out how this.
How that. That promo, you know,
because he's, you know, it's that tension of trying to
be, you know, trying to, like,
(37:19):
make. Be an Al tour and make these, like,
you know, films that are, you know, you know,
movies versus film, you know,
and, you know, trying to make these things.
I, you know, I. I thought she really, really sold,
you know, to me, she really sold it as far as being that marketing
person. And whenever they were having the back and forth as far as
(37:39):
just like, you know, you know, whatever.
The back and forth about whether or not this is
going to work or not. As far as how do you. How do you. How do you. How do
you market Steve Busimi and then how they could even.
And even trying to figure out.
>> Sarah (37:54):
Yeah, yeah, that. That stuff. Stuff is
good because they did say a lot
of stuff that, audience educated
audience members usually
want to say. Like, like.
And. And all these are all
factors, like the mechanics,
of getting a film not made,
(38:17):
but even greenlit, and
trying to think about, like, okay, you're. This
is a product at the end of the day, and you're trying
to sell it to an audience. So,
yeah, you may want a. An
actor who, is quote,
unquote, well known to like,
(38:37):
a niche group, but that won't sell a
movie. I mean, we always talk about movie stars, granted,
movie stars. There's also the current
conversation that movie stars are dead. And
like, it's more about the IP
and the franchise, which they get into the
IP and, And the. The other
ongoing bit is this whole discussion about
(38:59):
like Barbie making a ton of
money and. But. But
Barbie also, like, there's a lot of
factors into it and it's not just
because, like, of Greta Gerwig,
like, I didn't really buy into that point that
Matt made. Like, and it's not
because of Margot Robbie or Ryan Gosling.
(39:22):
It's. It's because it.
It's. I still have yet to see the movie, but from
what I understand, it's a good movie. A, it is.
>> Will (39:31):
Yep. It is.
>> Sarah (39:33):
So. So B, it also. Because
it's about a doll. It's marketed to
children, but it's also for the parents.
Like, and it came out right to.
And it came out as Connor counter programming
for Oppenheimer and then you had Barbenheimer.
So like, there were so many factors. And
(39:54):
so I'm curious to see how much they
continue down that. All of that,
like, that was a once in a lifetime.
but hearing the pitches about Kool Aid,
and you get your Jamestown version,
the Martin Scorsese evil
dark version, and then you get like
(40:15):
the. The the other version
from Nic Fuller. And.
And it's just. It's just like,
yeah, yeah, this makes sense. This adds up.
And I think. I think the. That
what really has this show going for it and probably why
a lot of people first looked into it
and got hooked is
(40:37):
authenticity. Like. Like Seth
Rogen's behind it. He's been in the game for a while,
like wearing multiple hats, so
he A, has access to a lot of people
already flaunting it. And B,
you know that he's gonna come at
it from a very authentic place.
(41:01):
and so. And so it'll. It'll. I, ah.
Like know
the humor for whatever reason did not hit for
me in this one episode, but the story
overall again has me very interested
and curious. And I think there's
that. It's. It's also a
(41:23):
fresh breath, fresh air.
Yeah, I mean, I mean this
isn't a show where I'm gonna sit here and break down
every single scene and Easter egg and all of that,
because it's not that kind of show. It's much more
of like a bear where we're gonna get a few
episodes and go over like a character
arc, one or two depending on what
(41:45):
happens. But it's. It's also not
layered in mythology and
and stuff, that.
That are. Is in other shows.
But.
>> Will (41:57):
Yeah, no, I completely agree. I think that's part. I think,
you know, after. After
coming off, the Last of Us And. Andor.
And, you know, even, you know, and also before that,
we had Daredevil. So we've just had,
I think so far this year, we've
had two shows that are not. That are
(42:18):
truly, like, original
stories or original, like, you know, original
type things. Paradise and now
the studio. And I think they're. And this
is why I always. I.
And I will give
proper hat tip to you for suggesting that we
(42:39):
do these things, because I think it is a nice palette
cleanser from, from the.
The IP driven, you know, content
that's out there. Because. Yeah, because, I mean,
you know, because watching this show, it's just like, oh, yeah, you
know, because. Not, you know, clearly,
because we have, you know, Our
(43:00):
primary focus here on the pod is the big
IP driven kind of things. And so to
have this satire
come after, you know, just back to. Back to, Back to
back of, Of. Of the big ip, I was
like, this is a real palate cleanser. And I just, like, I just, I just really
enjoyed it. And just seeing that discuss, you know, seeing that
(43:21):
tension that, that, you
know, Matt Remnick has about,
you know, wanting to, like,
have true art
versus the, the popcorn, you know,
thing that, you know, the Kool Aid store, you know, the Kool Aid, you
know, just get butts and seats and, you know, I'll spend
(43:42):
$10 million, you know, to get our.
That was the other funny thing too, was just like,
oh, he was just trying to use this. Literally making
it up, this as he went along. Just like, you
know, we spent $10 million to buy sores
script. And then he's like, yeah, I bought it to,
like, to kill it. And it really.
>> Sarah (44:02):
Yeah, yeah, it was, it was a very smart
way to get the character out of that situation.
yeah, it's very well written, but
I. So I don't
think now I haven't seen
enough of this show to know for sure. But
I don't. I don't necessarily think that
(44:25):
he wants to be an auteur. Like,
I think that he just wants to make good movies.
Like, I just
feel like from what we
saw and the way it's spoken about
is that
(44:45):
you.
I, I, I think, because he's also a
studio person, so he's not behind the camera.
He's not, he's not in front of the
camera as an actor, so. And they always
talk about. Actors and directors always talk about
story, storytelling and wanting to.
(45:05):
So I just feel like
Matt and the way they've introduced
the studio to us, like, they're
in the business of making movies now.
What grits greenlit, like what movies get.
Get made. That. That's the big
concept that's getting brought. Like, it all
falls on him. Decide to decide what gets made and
(45:28):
what doesn't like. And so
then we're presented with this IP and it's like,
okay, you got to build a story and then you got these
two different versions going on in very
unexpected ways. So
I don't even know if it's a conversation yet
fully about, like, IP
(45:49):
versus versus original
storytelling because arguably Martin
Scorsese's wasn't even original because that's about
an. An actual event that did happen.
Like, and probably have had several
iterations already done before, but this is a brand
new retelling, blah, blah, blah. And so.
And just because of all of that,
(46:12):
just because something's original doesn't mean it's good.
And, and what? Earlier this year, we were talking about
your friendly neighborhood spider man, and we were just
like, this isn't original. But it feels
so refreshing.
>> Will (46:25):
Yeah. Yeah, exactly.
>> Sarah (46:27):
Like, it's, it's so
right now, given everything that
has happened in terms of sports, specifically
comic book movies and TV shows and
franchises and those known ips,
this explosion.
It's an, it's an interesting conversation because I don't,
(46:48):
I don't feel like a
good movie and a,
A, an IP are mutually exclusive.
Like, there are a lot of good movies that are based on
IP are not original.
But there is something to be
said for how that is,
(47:10):
is drenching the marketplace and
allowing fewer original ideas
to get made less and less. Like,
I wonder if this,
this show will go into
the romantic comedy area because
I, There is a subtle conversation
going on right now about how, like,
(47:33):
romantic comedies are few and far between, but
like 10, 15 years ago, it
was like every other week a new one was coming out and
it was like a. Mechanisms before
McConnas.
>> Will (47:49):
Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. You know, as we,
as we, as we dive deeper into the. I guess
it's ten episodes. yeah, first
season has. I, I'm hopeful that we will, we will
get. Get that. Because, I mean, I think even Matt,
to your point, I think even Matt, Seth, Rogen's character even made
that point. It's just like, you know, you can, you can
(48:09):
have block, you know, you can have good films. And I, you know, they're
not mutually exclusive.
>> Sarah (48:13):
no, no.
>> Will (48:15):
And so I think that's what he was. I think that's the tension that, like you said,
oh yeah, maybe I was. When I was, when I was saying
I'm. He was, you know, he was, you know, he,
whenever he was, you know, trying to
shoehorn his vision of like. Yeah, making
good films. But also I gotta make a
shitload of money to keep my job. Otherwise I'm end up like Patty.
(48:35):
You know, when he fell upon Scorsese, he was trying to like, you
know, that's what I thought was so well, why this
pilot was just so well written
to really, you know, hit that point of what we were just talking about
here. It's like you can have a good film, but I
can also, you know, but I can also, you
know, just because it's artsy fartsy doesn't necessarily mean
(48:56):
it has to be, you know, you know, you know,
go, go broke. I mean it could all, you know, you can have a great film
and it can also be based off the Kool Aid, which
I thought that was just like, you know. Oh
yeah, you know, so.
>> Sarah (49:11):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So. So for the next
two weeks we will be doing
neck, three episodes each week.
and then we're gonna go back to one offs as
Ironheart will begin at the end of this month.
So, and, and just for warning to our
listeners, we are entering when
(49:31):
Ironheart begins our schedule will be very
chaotic. We will be jumping
around from Tuesday nights to Thursday nights
to a Wednesday night, back to a Thursday night.
So, so just, just forewarning,
and bear with us as we try to hit
everything as freshly as possible because
(49:53):
we got two giant movies also in
July as we're trying
to wrap up, a few different shows.
so, so stay tuned. But for, for the
next two weeks at least we're going to be talking about the story
studio, and we hope you,
you are along for the ride. So on that note, Will,
(50:13):
why don't you tell our listeners where they can find you?
>> Will (50:16):
Yes, you can find me on all the socials at
Will and Polk, W I L L M P O
L.
>> Sarah (50:22):
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