June 25, 2025 • 48 mins
In this episode of Scene N Nerd, Sarah and Will dive into the latest buzz in the entertainment world, starting with Amazon's new series "We Were Liars." Spoiler alert: Sarah's not a fan! She's got some serious beef with the adaptation, questioning the storytelling choices and character development that left her feeling like she just bit into a stale popcorn kernel. Next up, Will takes a trip down memory lane, sharing his nostalgic vibes from attending a stage adaptation of "Some Like It Hot." He reflects on its classic charm and even spills some tea about his past performances.
And when you think things couldn't get more exciting, they chat about the jaw-dropping news of Jon Bernthal reprising his role as The Punisher in "Spider-Man: Brand New Day." Cue the fan theories about potential crossovers with Daredevil and what it all means for the Marvel universe, and thoughts on Blade! Plus, preview their thoughts on the premiere of Ironheart.
As the episode rolls on, Sarah and Will break down the finale of "The Studio," tackling the last three episodes like pros. They dissect the comedic chaos of the Golden Globes episode, serving up clever commentary on the film industry and Matt's quest for respect in a world dominated by creative artists. They critique the pacing and character arcs, wondering what the future holds for the series as it gears up for Season 2.
With plenty of laughs and insightful commentary, this episode is a must-listen for fans of adaptations, classic cinema, and the behind-the-scenes antics of Hollywood!
0:00 Welcome
1:00 "We Were Liars" review
5:07 Will's stage nostalgia with "Some Like It Hot"
7:10 Jon Bernthal as The Punisher in Spider-Man, Blade update, Ironheart preview
18:36 "The Studio" Episodes 8-finale breakdown
47:10 Closing thoughts
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>> Will (00:00):
Music
>> Sarah (00:13):
Greetings Nerds. This is Scene N Nerd. I'm your host, Sarah Belmont, and with me,
as always, this is our Mr. Producer, Will Polk How are you doing tonight.
Will.
>> Will (00:19):
Doing very well, Sarah. How you doing this evening?
>> Sarah (00:21):
I'm doing good.
I'm. I'm in cooler temperatures. You're in a
heat dome, you know.
>> Will (00:29):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. My. My
sweaty. My sweat is sweating. So.
So dag on hot down here right now. and I think pretty much
anybody who's listening, like, in the eastern United States
or central United States, definitely understands what.
>> Sarah (00:44):
Where.
>> Will (00:45):
What. What I'm saying there. yeah, it's. It's definitely
not. Not very pleasant right now. Yeah.
>> Sarah (00:51):
Okay. So over
the weekend, or like last Thursday, Friday,
Amazon dropped this show called,
We Were Liars, and it's
based off of a book that was very popular
during the pandemic, and it's produced by
Julie Pleck, who
(01:12):
produced and probably the showrunner. I don't know all of the
credit she has, but Julie Pleck is the mastermind,
behind Vampire Diaries and the originals and that
whole thing, so I'm very familiar
with her. and I
kept seeing on my for you page, like,
little clips and everything. and
(01:33):
everyone was like, it's so sad at the end. It's so
sad at the end. Okay. No. No, it's
not. If you really
think about it, people, if you really think
about the story that we were told,
it is not that sad because
it actually makes your main character look like a freaking
(01:54):
idiot. It's just.
It's just so stupid. But. And.
And I. I had known something was
off for a while. I didn't exactly
predict it, so I can't say I didn't see the twist
coming. And then, of course, the night before, I watched the last
episode, which there's only eight episodes, so it's not that
long at all. I'm just like.
(02:17):
I randomly see a clip, and I kind of.
I didn't fully get the explanation, but I was
like, oh, that's where this is headed. Got it.
Okay. Okay. So now I
just have to watch the last episode, which is so stupid.
It. Yeah, I. I was.
I'm a bit angry about this show
(02:37):
because it's one of those shows where
I started watching it and then quickly found
myself. Like, it was noise in the background.
Okay. And then as
I get to the end, like. Like the. Finally
the reveal of what happened to,
Cadence, the. The summer before
(02:59):
which she's been trying to figure out this whole
thing. I mean, she ends up with trauma
to the Point of PTSD and
amnesia that is trauma
responsive. So
you, you find out what happened.
Like, I can see how it would be. I
(03:21):
can see reading the book. This is a very good
story to tell via book.
>> Will (03:26):
Okay.
>> Sarah (03:27):
I have some issues with how they explained it, how they
tell it via show. And, and
I, I saw a lot of Julie Pleck.
Just like, I'm like you. I see what you're
doing here and you
definitely want this show to continue,
but I don't think that's the way the book works. I
(03:48):
know that there's somewhat of a sequel called
the Family of Liars, but.
Or Family of Liars, but at the
same time I'm just. And they, and they kind
of set it up through a few different things in the
finale. But I'm thinking in my head, I'm like,
why do I even care? Because the
(04:08):
current story should be over. It
should be over. And then they did this
weird thing that makes, it makes you think.
It's not. It's just in
comparison to other quote unquote
young adult shows that I've watched recently.
This is, this is not up there. I
(04:28):
mean from what I hear, this was in
competition to Netflix's his new show called the
Waterfront, which is trying to be a new
Yellowstone. So it was either we were liars of
Waterfront, from what I understand. I chose the
better of the two.
>> Will (04:43):
Okay. Yes. Well, I haven't heard of the
Amazon show. I have, I have seen promos
for, for the Netflix show the Waterfront.
>> Sarah (04:50):
But.
>> Will (04:51):
Yeah, yeah, but now I was, I was all.
This weekend was, watched. Well watch
the NBA Finals, you know, so. But
as far as other other television programs,
I actually, I saw
Oldie but Goody, at
the local performing arts center was the
(05:12):
something like the Hot the Musical. And you know,
it's it's the stage adaptation of the old
1959 film that starred Tony Curtis, Jack
Lemmon and Marilyn Monroe. which it
was a big fit of nostalgia for me because when I was in
college actually in my acting class,
we actually actually performed a scene,
(05:33):
from that, from that movie. And
and, and so the basic
story is it's like these two, two friends,
two guys who basically see a mob hit
in Chicago have to go on the run and they have
to, they have to. And. And they
stole away on a
(05:54):
trip, cross country trip with a all girl
chorus. And of course they, they had to dress up. They
disguised themselves as, as women. So
it was Joe and Jerry. And Joe and Jerry
became Josephine and Daphne. So
I, I played the Jack Lemon character and the one
I play. well, in the one scene that we did back
(06:16):
in the college and I actually did, even though
there's a photo of it somewhere out there,
there is a photo of me dressed up as Daphne.
M. playing. Playing, you know, Jerry's character,
as Daphne in the scene that we did from very, very
early in the movie. But, I think the photo has probably been lost to Tom
somewhere. but, yeah, I had a little. I had a little
(06:37):
trip down nostalgia lane this weekend.
>> Sarah (06:40):
Yeah, it sounds like it.
>> Will (06:43):
Yeah.
>> Sarah (06:44):
Speaking, about oldies but goodies, it
was announced that Jon Bernthal will appear as
Punisher in Spider Man. Brand new day.
and my only, my only thought is,
okay, so we should get Daredevil too. Right?
I mean, Matt's already appeared
in, no Way Home.
(07:06):
So, so like,
like, I, I, I definitely
want to understand. And then, and then I go into
this thought process. Well, if you're gonna do,
then based on how Daredevil
Born Again ended,
Spidey has to show up for it to make
(07:27):
any sense in the second season.
>> Will (07:30):
Yeah. You know. Yeah. So I've been thinking about
this too, especially since I saw the news. I think it dropped over the
weekend. And, and of course
there is, you know, as far as, like, in the comics, there is the Amazing,
spider man, 129, which was when
Daredevil, excuse me, not Daredevil, but the Punisher was
first introduced in, in into
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the Marvel universe. And so just
to get back into the comic book lore, the
Jackal, who was a, enemy of Spider man, actually hires
Frank to, to kill Spider man. And in
this particular comic. And, and so
a lot of things happen at the end of the, you know, Frank
and, and Spidey have a couple
(08:12):
showdowns and stuff. But, at the end of the day, Frank
realizes that the, the Jackal actually was manipulating
him. And, and then the sort of, you know, and it
sort of takes them on the path, you know, of course, eventually
we all know that, you know, Frank, is the anti hero,
but, you know, but is friendly towards like, Spider man and other
people in the. As far as. As far as in the Marvel
(08:33):
universe. So. But I wonder, you know, so when I saw this
news, I was like, are they going to adapt that story? Or to your point,
like, you know, given that what we saw in.
At the end of, the last Spider man movie, you know,
Peter's mind is like white bus strange already.
Gonna, like, have some kind of mentor, mentee type of
relationship, you know, to fill in that void that, you know,
that Tony played and then, of course, later, Strange played
(08:56):
in the mcu. So, you know, I was just like,
yeah, I'm starting a theory spiral, too. And also to your point about,
you know, Will. Will he show up? Will Spidey show up in Daredevil?
>> Sarah (09:05):
He has to. Okay, this
can't be a question. Okay, Feige, if you're
gonna do a universe and you're gonna tell
me that Fisk is basically create. Has
created his own island, that is New York,
M. Okay. Because somehow the mayor
has all of this power to do that, and he
(09:25):
manipulated the system, and Spider man is
in New York, and he doesn't help. He
doesn't help. Makes no sense. Makes no
sense. And this is. This is part of the issue with
shared universes. But, like, like,
you. You have to give us something,
and then you can give us everything in Spider Man.
(09:46):
A brand new day.
>> Will (09:47):
Yeah. Yeah. I might
be making this up, but didn't this. In this past season of Daredevil,
Born again? They referenced Spider Man. Yeah.
Okay. Okay. Yeah.
>> Sarah (09:58):
Like. Like, I,
I, I do. And. And we
even see, Daredevil show up in,
In the Spider man show that we watched
earlier this year. Yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah. So. So,
like, all the pieces are here. And. And yes, I
(10:19):
am more curious about Spider
man and Frank's dynamic than Spider
man and Max dynamic, but
I just. And also,
oh, while we're taking requests, because obviously
this is. This is what we're doing here. Karen
Page. Karen Page. We.
(10:39):
We need resolution about what happened.
Okay? And by. And by we,
I mean all of us who are still
holding a torch for
Frank and Karen. Okay. Give us a
damn kiss, people.
>> Will (10:58):
See, this is where. This is where, you know, I don't have any rooting
interest one way or another with. With the shipping there,
so I'm. I'm just sort of like, you do.
>> Sarah (11:06):
You do. You're on my side. Okay? Just. Just
call it. Your vote has already been
cast. I've already signed it over. Okay.
>> Will (11:14):
All right. I handed over a proxy to you. Okay. Okay.
Yeah, I gave him a proxy. Okay.
>> Sarah (11:19):
That's the way this works. Okay.
I just. I mean, I have. I have wanted
the Daredevil crossover, and we're getting
pun. It's just all the pieces are there, and
it's kind of cool because, yeah, like. And
I'm sure a lot of people have talked about this aspect of it is
that Tom Holland was Shooting a movie with
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John Bernthal when he was trying, when
he was doing, they were doing the Spider man casting.
And so Tom Holland read lines with
John Bernthal that ultimately led to him
getting the part. So it's, it's very full
circle. And then that just tells me you better
do some sort of mentor mentees thing,
(12:02):
happening. Even though I, I don't.
This, this just means that Daredevil
season two has so much
set up, so much it has to do
because the Frank that we left
off and we met in season
one, I, I hope
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he's, he's a little bit more, how do we put it
before he goes and meets young Peter Parker.
Okay, I, I
hope, some, some blocks are
put in place, so to speak. So,
and then the. Okay,
okay. Mahershala, Mahershala,
(12:45):
Mahershala, I love you. I love you. but you
gotta let it go.
I'm sorry. I see you in these Jurassic
park trailers. I see you in ScarJo,
and I'm just thinking in my head, what are they doing
in that movie? And if I, I don't,
I don't know. I don't know about this. I
(13:08):
was. If, like, how, how long ago was
it announced now? Six years. Because it was announced
in 2019. Right?
>> Will (13:15):
That's right. Yep.
>> Sarah (13:16):
Yeah. Yeah, it was the
last great hurrah before every, like the world
changed, completely. So,
so. And he's still, he's still
like. You can play Blades, Blade's father
at this point.
>> Will (13:33):
Yeah, A little flashback.
Yeah, yeah. I mean, yeah, it's
funny. So not only. Yeah, because he, you know, he did mention, I
guess to your point about the, Jurassic, what it was. What's
the title for the new Jurassic park movie? I don't know. I, I'm
not, I'm completely off of that universe. But,
but he just basically is like, call Marvel, let them know I'm ready. But
(13:54):
I mean this, this film has gone through
like what, two, three directors, I think
four, maybe a handful of writers. And
interestingly enough, I think David Goyer, who actually wrote
the Blade film back in the day with,
for Wesley Snipes. I was reading, I was reading
interview with him and you know, and of course, you know, people
now really associate him more with DC because of all
(14:17):
the work that he's done, you know, with
I think man of Steel and, and, and Some of
Krypton and you know, and so many other
dc, projects, also that think that other
Suicide Squad movie two, the first one, not the James Gun
one but you know, but he, but he did cut
his teeth on Blade as far
(14:37):
as he's like look, I'm, I'm here if y' all, if
y' all need me to write a script, I'm here. So who knows?
Yeah, everybody, everybody associated with
anything of Bleed, they're like we're
here.
>> Sarah (14:50):
But well it's it's Marvel in general.
I mean Marvel or dc, anytime you're
associated with any big franchise and even though
you're promoting a different product project, it's always like
so I mean an
association is even a stretch. It's like
you're just on the list of people potentially
(15:11):
to get this part
for some reason those like less than five
minute interviews, they seem to run out of
questions very quickly about the actual project of
promotions.
but yeah, what that project.
And like my last point about it is also
(15:32):
we get it Mahershala, technically you were ready
five years ago and that's great.
But that also tells me you
haven't aren't reading the script. And,
and I'm I'm not going just to see you as
Blade. I would actually like to see a good movie.
>> Will (15:52):
Exactly exactly.
>> Sarah (15:54):
Like like are you, have
you seen some of the pieces of trash that have been
produced when you just
are just like just put something together?
Madame Web.
>> Will (16:06):
Yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah.
Oh gosh, yeah yeah, hopefully. Well, I
know, I know next week we'll start start talking
about Ironheart which M is premiering tonight and
seeing things seen seen
mixed reviews about it but you know, so,
but I'm glad that a lot of folks are
(16:27):
really just pushing it. You know I think fandom
and just really were
put you know been pushing the, the, the
advertisement for it. I will say watching NBA Finals given
that it's all you know, they, that the
result ABC is owned by Disney. I will say I did see
more a lot of advertisements during, during the, during the
(16:47):
basketball playoffs for the
for the show. So looking forward to catching it this,
this, this this week. And then I guess they're dropping
first three tonight and then they're dropped the
next the remaining three next Tuesday. So.
>> Sarah (17:02):
Yep yep. Oh the
remaining three next Tuesday.
>> Will (17:07):
Yeah yeah, they just. Yeah.
>> Sarah (17:09):
Oh they changed it again.
>> Will (17:11):
They changed. Yeah yeah so they changed.
Yeah yeah so yeah, I know we didn't get a chance. I didn't,
I didn't mention it on our, on our show. May have posted
on our socials. But yeah, the, the the
slate is the first three tonight, and then the next three
next week. So just.
>> Sarah (17:27):
That actually works in our favor, so.
>> Will (17:29):
Yeah, exactly.
>> Sarah (17:30):
I'm all for it.
>> Will (17:32):
Yeah. I already adjusted our. I already adjusted our schedule. I was like,
okay, just, you know, we know. We know our content
thing going into, you know, the next two weeks. Going into Superman.
>> Sarah (17:41):
Yeah, yeah, Superman. And then this
other little film called, Fantastic Four. It's just an
indie project. It's gonna be very small.
>> Will (17:49):
Yeah. Very, very small.
>> Sarah (17:51):
Very, very small. Yeah, we. July.
July, is looking bright.
but before we get there, we have to close out
the studio. Season one,
starting off with episode eight, the Golden
Globes, which,
out of the three, this was my favorite episode.
>> Will (18:12):
Yeah.
>> Sarah (18:14):
I love the ongoing gag
of all of the acceptance speeches
thanking, Sal. I really like
that. I thought that was. That was
honestly so great.
Towards the end, it got a little overplayed, but I was still
just, like, there for it.
>> Will (18:33):
Yeah. And.
>> Sarah (18:34):
And I. I, think this
continues to go back to
some discussions that we've had in the past. And.
And Matt. Matt is very.
He. They. They did an interesting thing with
his character because there
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is so much ego, but
it's maxed by
this naiveness that I think
viewers can see themselves in. Matt.
>> Will (19:07):
Yeah.
>> Sarah (19:08):
while. While they're able to
also take that. That good quality about
him and then kind of twist
it and then also bring out
the. I'm the big man at the top of the
pyramid,
like. Like I deserve
respect, even though I don't know
(19:31):
how to get it until I ask the other person
and they tell me, well, you gotta write it in their
contracts.
>> Will (19:40):
There was so. Yeah, there was
so many things with that scene with him and Tess
Arandos, who wrote. Who was the CEO of Netflix.
>> Sarah (19:48):
Right.
>> Will (19:48):
So. Yeah. And. And yeah, that.
That, To your point, that's one of the things that
made this episode for me probably of the
bunch might agree, my favorite of the
last three that we. That we watched this week. and
the other thing, too, is I thought about as I
was watching the episode and, you know, and they were having the. The.
(20:09):
The. The M. Interviews, and of course, Zoe Kravitz is there,
and of course she's one of the front runners. But, you
know, when Matt was walking on the red carpet and having the junket
interviews, there was also, like, all the influencers. And I
couldn't help but think about our conversation that we had
last week, about. Yeah, you know,
how they'll just show up but,
(20:29):
you know, do their thing. But also you know,
you know, they're just there on the carpet. But they don't actually. Actually go into
the, Into. Into the ceremonies themselves. They just do their thing
and just move on. But also just, again, how influence of culture is
just really. Is really driving the train so much
these days as far as. As far as films
and TV and casting.
>> Sarah (20:49):
Right, right. But they weren't even allowed in the ceremony.
It's like this weird thing. They're.
They're. They're definitely part of
media and attention and word of
mouth and that whole thing which, which the
movies need. So you. So
you see Matt walk through and,
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and suddenly it's like, oh, well, I'm
used to the old media and how. But I don't
understand this. This new wave of new
media. And then I go through the
golden gates and get into this place where these
people I've worked with and I
admire and all. And like, the
artists, like, all of this emphasis on.
(21:32):
On him going to an award show
where they celebrate work.
And Matt told us from day one, like,
his job is to decide
which movies get made.
>> Will (21:46):
Yeah.
>> Sarah (21:47):
And so what we're finding over the course
of the season and really drives home in this episode
is like, how much
that deciding what movies get made is a
big deal. However,
does that really put you on the team of
the creative artistry
(22:09):
that is filmmaking?
and. And I thought that was. That was really good
because it also parallels
the episode from last week,
with the. At the charity event where
then he's like, he. He's the
spokesperson for the arts.
And. And we see him rejected in that
(22:31):
world because they're all science people.
Right. And now you see him, kind
of rejected in this artist world
because it's like, no, you just count the beans. You're just the
bean counter.
>> Will (22:43):
You're just the bean counter.
>> Sarah (22:44):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, Sal deserves
more recognition than you.
>> Will (22:50):
Yeah, yeah. And
Patty too. I mean, Patty, you know, because. Because
the fact, you know, she got fired as head of the
studio. Studio. And then, you
know, he. Going back to the beginning where he begs her to come
on board to, you know, to help with the,
G. Lee movie, as a producer. And,
you know, she, you know, they have that whole conversation. This is like, you
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know, you know, she can, you know, because she is
the, the producer and the
creative, you know, not she, you know,
she can go up on the stage and, and with the rest of the
folks. But, you know, but to your point, I mean, the
bean counter and, and. And so, and so, of course, going Back
to the comment that he and Sarandos has.
It's like, you know, you know, Sarandos is like, looks at him kind of incredulous.
(23:36):
Like, what do you mean? You're, you're part of the.
You're, you're, you're, you're, you know, you're an artist. He's like,
really, dude, You're a bean counter. Yeah, no, just don't blur.
>> Sarah (23:45):
Yeah, right, right. I think it's
also more like
like the old, old dog being like, oh
boy, you, you have no idea.
You, you don't. You haven't figured it out yet
that like we're,
we're, we're. We're not, we're
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not fully in this circle. It's,
it's just an interesting thing considering.
this is a kind of a
documentary style
type show or work
workplace scenarios show
that is centered around filmmaking. And yet
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the, the characters, the, the staff who we
are following, they're not the artists.
They're not the actors, directors,
or even writers. They're, they're the,
the producers who
do very is. It's very hard to
describe what actually is their
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their job, what they're responsible
for.
>> Will (24:50):
I mean, yeah, you have Matt, the executive who like
picture, you know, is that this
bean counter, you know, the big, the picture of
Patty, you know, the, the studio, you know, she's, she's a
producer. So you know, so yeah, it's making sure that the production
runs on time and, and you know, acquiring,
helping to acquire the talent and
you know.
>> Sarah (25:10):
Well, yeah, but she's not also casting
director either.
>> Will (25:14):
No, no, no.
>> Sarah (25:15):
But like, like producers,
they, they do a little.
Understand, but they also like, it
varies and then you have executive producers and
then at the end of the day they're just the people
who end up putting money forward to fund the project.
>> Will (25:34):
Right, right.
>> Sarah (25:35):
Yeah, exactly. So they're, they're the,
the AMEX card. The, the
other thing about this episode that I
find and I, of course I'm saying this as
Zoe Kravitz appears in three, all
three of these episodes. It's an
ongoing thing.
I noticed that if you think about it,
(25:57):
over the course of this season he,
Seth has pulled in more director
talent than any other
like any other like actors
or, or even when he brings in actors
like Olivia Wilde or even Zoe Kravitz, who
directed her first movie last year year with Blink
(26:19):
Twice. She like there, there are
also actors and actresses who have directed before.
I mean Zach, Zac
Efron and
the, The Franco brother who. I'm blanking.
I was gonna say Dan for some reason, but Dave
Franco. Those two make sense because
(26:42):
of their relationships with Seth Rogen.
Clearly photo friendly, but
I, I find that. And,
and am I right that, did
Seth direct more of these
episodes than actually write these episodes?
>> Will (26:59):
So he and his partner Evan was Elvin
Goldberg. I think it's. Yeah, so they,
I think, I think they split duties. I think
Evan really did a lot of the writing over the course of the
season. To go back and look at the credits. Seth, I think
directed some, but he was,
I think he was more, you know, more
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in front of the camera,
this disco than, Than behind it. Of course,
obviously they're both producers on that and. But you're right,
it truly is like phone a friend. Because
not only that, but another thing that really struck me about this
episode was, the
cross. You know, using cross talent from other,
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Other streaming services. Like, I mean, obviously you had Adam Scott, you
know, severance clearly there, but then, you know, you had,
you had your boy Antony Starr,
and, and and Aaron Morati show up.
You know, there's again, another Seth Rogen. Pretty show
with the boys. But in, you know, you know, so, you know, we
saw that, you know, twice. We see, you know,
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whereas in the past in the old traditional
broadcast model, you would rarely see across
pollination between networks like this. But here,
you know, you, you do, with this, with
this, with this show, which I, you know, which
also really just kind of, you know, stuck out to me a little bit. But you're
right also about. With the directors too, because, you know, he had Zack Snyder show
(28:23):
up as well, so Quinta Brunson, I mean, it was
just like it, it truly was like, you know,
a lot of these creatives, as you, as you were saying,
have. Have worn both hats of both not only working
in front of the camera as far as acting, but also, have
directed various projects as well.
>> Sarah (28:40):
Yeah. Yeah.
and then it's. It's hard with the next two
to really talk about them separately because they just go hand
in hand. But we have, we have
Cinemacon, which is the full setup.
essentially, the crew is headed to Las
Vegas for Cinemacon, where they're gonna give
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a big presentation and,
Matt's idea about an old school
Hollywood. Hollywood, party
go sideways. And
he ends up getting high along with,
Zoe Kravitz and, and,
yeah, and, and pretty much the
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entire crew. And then
that leads to the presentation which
is where, when they actually give their
presentation, at Cinemacon. What,
what I didn't understand is like you guys had
a 7:30 call time.
Yeah, like, like
and then you're in a party. I, I, I didn't
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understand the logistics about that.
but yeah, it's just,
I don't know. I, I still have to figure out
what my gripes are and why these
two episodes, it just felt long.
It felt long and tired for
me.
>> Will (30:04):
Well, I, I, you know, I, the bit
with the shrooms wore very thin for me
after a while. Yeah, I think that was my biggest,
I mean the whole Cinemacon stuff. I mean, you know,
I've said this before about this, about the studio
and especially, you know, you and I both list, as I
said before and I'll I'll just repeat it real quick. You know, you know, I listen
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to entertainment podcasts in this space.
You know, kind of funny. You know, Rocha
and Snyder and Kristian, all, you know, all these
talking, his campia, all these folks talk about
CinemaCon. So it was kind of, you know, so for,
so was interesting. And I was
listening to the Ringer, tv. They,
(30:44):
you know, they had Matt Baloney who, who was,
who, who hosts the talk, the Talk podcast.
Who's that? You know, he was an actual, he's an actual entertainment
reporter who actually appeared in, in, you know, they
had him voice a couple
his things during the season and then he actually
showed up in these, in this episode because they're trying to keep
guilt, you know, keep Griffith, away from him. But
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they were just talking about how in many ways this was
kind of a peek behind the curtain for CinemaCon because you know
we've all heard about, because we, you know, we listen to these
podcasts and these things we've heard about Cinemacon
and you know, you know, the footage to get shown
there and stuff and reactions to it and all that. So,
you know, so from that standpoint, I did like the episodes
because I felt like it was kind of a peek behind the curtain
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as far as a compressed version of what happens there as far as
like, you know, as far as the presentation aspect of it. I don't know about the
parties and all that, but you know, the, the, the actual
presentation that, that Maya put on and
that in the execs that where they were like planning
to, you know, to, to roll out the slate
of films that the studio had, you know, I,
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I did get a sort of flavor like. Oh yeah, I read all about this. So I
think, you know, so if that's how it is, because
Cinemacon is, you know, where the,
you know, the studio showed to the motion
picture trade association, the theaters, I should say
movie theaters association, where they, you know, preview
the films for the year. So, you know, so I did like that
aspect of the episode.
>> Sarah (32:13):
Yeah, I. I'm right there with you. Where
I, I like the, the
concept of it, but
the shrooms of it all. And then the
Griffin part where.
And I love Bryan Cranston. I just. I was
like, not. Not in on
this gag that would never end, and.
(32:35):
And we knew that they would pull it off. And I,
I. I don't know. I kind of.
I kind of feel like what was also
missing was
it can't m. I don't know how
you're gonna feel about this comparison, but I'm gonna throw it out here.
>> Will (32:56):
Yeah, go ahead.
>> Sarah (32:57):
Honestly, looking back on it,
I think my feelings are just all a little
ambiguous because it reminds me about
the Bear season three.
>> Will (33:08):
That's good. Yeah, that's a very good call. Very good
comparison.
>> Sarah (33:11):
It's hard to see, like, okay, well,
now we're at the end, and we have this big, like,
technically, part one and part two finale.
And yet what has Matt learned?
Like, what has the arc been? And
granted, this is season one, so it's more about
all of these characters and really for us to
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understand what's going on. But
I. I still feel like he thinks he's a bit more of
an artist than he should. Yeah,
I. I don't. I don't know what overall
his, arc is.
>> Will (33:49):
Yeah.
>> Sarah (33:49):
And. And that's why it kind of felt
unsatisfying of how they ended it. It's just
because, like, he had this good
speech. He talks at the. In
episode nine, at the beginning with his mom and
about his loneliness a little bit. And
then during the presentation, he
acknowledges, like, like,
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his friends and these people he surrounded
with him, himself with
are like, the true loves of his life.
Not. Not just movies, but I.
I don't know. It just. It didn't land the way I
needed it to. And I think also
over the course of this season, for it
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being a comedy and these days,
especially with the streaming ones, I mean, to bring up the
bear again, you.
Comedies are good not just because
they're able to get you to laugh,
but they also have the tendency to
every now and then give
(34:52):
you a sad clown and.
And really hit you with a
big dramatic moment. That. That
is like a gut punch. Now, maybe
that's, like. Maybe I'm thinking about long
term comedies where they pull out those kind of things
in seasons two or three.
But at the same time,
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I don't know, I feel like this show
mechanically has a lot going for it,
but subsequently,
it's lacking a bit in terms of
like, okay, well, I went on this ride.
I don't really know where I ended up though.
>> Will (35:33):
Yeah, well, yeah, you know, it's,
it's interesting, interesting that you say that because, you
know, when I look back on this, on this show, and
maybe as part, you know, part where you're talking about
like an arc or journey or, or
whatever. On
the one hand, I felt like in many ways this,
(35:54):
this, this, this first season was very
episodic where there was
no like you know, to, you know, you're, you're saying like,
you know, where was the growth or where was the
evolution or those kind of things. You know,
to me it was like each. Even
though they were like. Because, you know, whenever
we first started watching it, like with the Kool Aid film,
(36:16):
you know, it wasn't like they, it was a
serialized. We, you know, we
start from the casting and then we go to this and we
go to that. It wasn't like, you know, every episode
had its own like sort of standalone story. Yeah, there's like the
bigger issues going on with the studio behind it,
you know, but you know, it
wasn't until like really the. These last three where
(36:38):
it was sort of like, okay, yeah, we're pulling, you know, all these little things that happen
throughout the season. Now we're going to pull it together. And then we had this two part
finale that felt like a kind of a
serialized story. so it, you know, so it
felt like for, for me it was kind of like all of a sudden it
felt like it was like a, like a, A hard pivot
from like episodic to like, almost to like. Oh yeah, we,
we did have this sort of through line throughout the season as far as
(37:01):
not through line, but we did have these underlying stories and they just
all kind of wrapped them up in a little bow here at the end with
the Cinemacon and the presentation.
>> Sarah (37:09):
Well, I don't even know if it's,
because. Okay, one of the better episodes
of the season is the, the war,
okay, between Sal and
Emma. and
I got her name right, right?
>> Will (37:29):
S. And Quinn.
>> Sarah (37:30):
Quinn. Quinn. Sal and Quinn.
Yeah, they. And. And yet when I
think about it, it's like,
okay, so we never, like that was episode five. We
never circled back to them. I still don.
>> Will (37:46):
Was like Episodic. It was just like.
>> Sarah (37:48):
Yeah, it's, but, but what I was, what I was getting
at is like even the, when you say
stories like wrapped in together,
I, I just look at them all as callbacks, like
call back to this movie. Because of course it's a
studio. Like we're, they're doing
so many different projects that are all at different states in
production that you're gonna get.
(38:11):
I thought it was a clip, clever thing to do
to sprinkle in like those names and
then bring them out as like
this is our new slate of, of films.
Us knowing like where, where
they are in production. I mean Black Wing hasn't even
filmed. It's just like this is the announcement
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but it's still character wise,
like not even putting Matt out of the
picture. All of the characters, the ensemble
didn't really have a, a clear arc
either. So that's
looking at season two. That's something
that I hope that they develop more of.
(38:56):
especially with Matt and now that
they've established the team, the
workplace, what Continental
is, I, I
just, I, I want to see
more, more of an arc.
>> Will (39:13):
Yeah, yeah, I can see that. I mean, yeah, I mean I
think the other thing too is this,
you know, the,
you know, will they follow up? For example, like, you
know, one of the big things they dropped in this episode was
the whole issue of the studio possibly
being bought by, you know, by a tech company which is kind
(39:34):
of, you know, again another meta reference given that the show
is airing on a tech company. But you know,
platform but you know, but you know, well
those are some of those like
you know, we'll, you know, to see what the, see what the fallout
like you said from and when I think
about it too, it's like, okay, what's, you dropped this big
(39:55):
bombshell that like you're trying to hide
that you know, they're trying to keep the
you know, Matt baloney from like finding out that Amazon
or was was thinking about buying Continental.
And you know, will they follow up on that? And you
know, you know, because it seemed,
you know, that it seemed like the presentation went
(40:16):
really, really well and. Yeah. And so
will they follow up on those kind of things? And you know, like you said, some
of the callbacks to some of the earlier stories, will those
things start getting pulled forward or, or were they
truly just one offs that that
happened and we just won't reference them again?
>> Sarah (40:33):
Right, right. I, I, I think they'll follow
up. From what I've seen I don't
know how they're going to do it though. And
I had a thought and I lost it.
I hate when that happens. But,
but I think, I think they, they have some,
some good, good follow through.
>> Will (40:54):
Yeah.
>> Sarah (40:55):
Yeah.
>> Will (40:56):
Yeah. I mean, one thing that did to you as far
as like, stories and just
We'll think it back to episode eight with the Golden
Globes was Matt and Patty's conversation about like, when
she was crying in the car. And I did like
how they did, you know, show
that kind of low. that was, I guess if there was
(41:16):
like a lowest point for like Matt in the season, that was probably
it. You know, whenever he was, you know, he leaves the
award show and, and then of course,
you know, with the, with the presentation at the end
there and there, you know, he's bailing out Griffith
after he like, you know, uses the Kool Aid rig to
come down and stumped there on the, on
(41:36):
the, with the teleprompter or movies, you know, that. That was
sort of like that celebratory moment that. So I, I
like the way that the season ended, especially when you had that
earlier low that he had was he was just, you know,
alone in his limo just, just, Just crying away.
>> Sarah (41:53):
Yeah. Yeah. Or after,
Ron Howard.
>> Will (41:58):
Yeah.
>> Sarah (41:58):
Verbally assaulted him.
>> Will (42:00):
Yeah.
>> Sarah (42:01):
Or. Or after he
leaves the charity event in a,
>> Will (42:07):
Oh, ambulance. Yeah, that was pretty. Yeah. He says he's had some pretty
low moments. Come to think of it, now I feel like.
>> Sarah (42:13):
I feel like every, A lot of the episodes end with
Matt alone and in a bad
situation mentally, physically. You
know.
>> Will (42:27):
He had his triumphant at Cinemacon.
>> Sarah (42:31):
Yeah. Yeah, he definitely had a, had a
moment of triumph then. And
that, that's really, Now that I have
my thought back, is that something. That's something
that bothered me is
okay, they, they find out
that there's an offer for
Amazon to buy the Continental
(42:53):
Studio. And,
and so then they think, but if we deliver a
good presentation, that
deal will, will be done.
I, I don't understand that logic.
>> Will (43:09):
No. So. No. So no, if it,
if it had flopped. So
that their idea is that.
>> Sarah (43:17):
Right, right. Like that if it had
flopped, then that deal would be done.
>> Will (43:23):
Yeah. Yeah, they're. Yeah.
Well, I think the biggest thing is they, they.
>> Sarah (43:28):
I guess they didn't want to be bought by,
by Amazon, right?
>> Will (43:33):
Well, yeah, they wanted. Well, I think, I think that they're trying
to basically show that this studio is still.
Still relevant. So, that it
just, I guess if it goes off
successfully, the value of the. Of the studio
becomes so high that, you know, that the tech company is just going
to be like, scared off from buying it and they save their jobs
(43:53):
because if they get bought up, they get bought out, obviously they're
all, you know, they're all gonna get like, you know, eliminated.
So.
>> Sarah (43:59):
Okay, I. That. That's a little bit better.
>> Will (44:04):
It's like, it's like. Yeah, it's like all the Paramount stuff
that's going on with Skydance, you know, it's just. It's paralleling a lot
of the things that are happening.
>> Sarah (44:12):
I understand what it's. What it's paralleling.
I just don't know if
the projects that they were
promoting was enough for like, the
Continental. But I also don't have a
good sense of like, what the Continentals
worth was at the start
of the. The season either, if, you
(44:34):
know.
>> Will (44:34):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think it
was,
I think it was sort of. It was sort of in flux, to be
honest. you know, because it seemed like
it, you know, I guess
it was sort of like. I guess like Paramount, you know, they
have these big tent pole, you know, they have these big splashy things,
(44:55):
like, you know, Top Gun and a couple other films
in our. In our universe.
and, you know, it goes back to old legacy Hollywood because, you
know, they still have their old, you know, they still had their big,
you know, production lot and everything like that.
but Griffin was able to, like, you know, he. I guess he was a venture
(45:15):
capitalist or something like that, and he was able to like, you know,
acquire them, print on the cheap. So they were just. He was
just trying to make it a very profitable company.
Yeah, yeah. So I think the idea
was, you know, if they, you know, with. With the slate of
films, they'll just be. They can like, push back
on the narrative that they're just limping along that, you
(45:36):
know, a big predator like Amazon can just come
in and like, just take them over. Like. Like what happened with
mgm.
>> Sarah (45:43):
Right, right, yeah.
>> Will (45:44):
Right, yeah.
>> Sarah (45:46):
well. Well, that is a wrap on the
studio Season one. a good
break and refresher from our. Our
usual stuff, which we will have an
onslaught of throughout, the rest of June
through July or. Honestly.
Yeah, because we're. We're recording on July 1st,
(46:07):
right? Yeah, y. Yeah, yeah, July 1st.
So starting in July, the onslaught begins.
Back to your normal program, people.
>> Will (46:16):
Yeah, Yep. Back to your normal. Yeah, we. We
were. We dipped our toe into some prestige
tv. Well, we always do. I mean, we're going to be going talk. We'll be
talking about the bear next month as well. But, But yeah,
yeah, but we'll get back to your regularly scheduled
nerdom.
>> Sarah (46:33):
And on that note, Will, why don't you tell our listeners where they can find
you?
>> Will (46:37):
Yes, you can find me at, Will on
all the socials at Will W I L L M P.
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You're welcome.
>> Will (47:16):
Sam.
Music
>> Sarah (00:13):
Greetings Nerds. This is Scene N Nerd. I'm your host, Sarah Belmont, and with me,
as always, this is our Mr. Producer, Will Polk How are you doing tonight.
Will.
>> Will (00:19):
Doing very well, Sarah. How you doing this evening?
>> Sarah (00:21):
I'm doing good.
I'm. I'm in cooler temperatures. You're in a
heat dome, you know.
>> Will (00:29):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. My. My
sweaty. My sweat is sweating. So.
So dag on hot down here right now. and I think pretty much
anybody who's listening, like, in the eastern United States
or central United States, definitely understands what.
>> Sarah (00:44):
Where.
>> Will (00:45):
What. What I'm saying there. yeah, it's. It's definitely
not. Not very pleasant right now. Yeah.
>> Sarah (00:51):
Okay. So over
the weekend, or like last Thursday, Friday,
Amazon dropped this show called,
We Were Liars, and it's
based off of a book that was very popular
during the pandemic, and it's produced by
Julie Pleck, who
(01:12):
produced and probably the showrunner. I don't know all of the
credit she has, but Julie Pleck is the mastermind,
behind Vampire Diaries and the originals and that
whole thing, so I'm very familiar
with her. and I
kept seeing on my for you page, like,
little clips and everything. and
(01:33):
everyone was like, it's so sad at the end. It's so
sad at the end. Okay. No. No, it's
not. If you really
think about it, people, if you really think
about the story that we were told,
it is not that sad because
it actually makes your main character look like a freaking
(01:54):
idiot. It's just.
It's just so stupid. But. And.
And I. I had known something was
off for a while. I didn't exactly
predict it, so I can't say I didn't see the twist
coming. And then, of course, the night before, I watched the last
episode, which there's only eight episodes, so it's not that
long at all. I'm just like.
(02:17):
I randomly see a clip, and I kind of.
I didn't fully get the explanation, but I was
like, oh, that's where this is headed. Got it.
Okay. Okay. So now I
just have to watch the last episode, which is so stupid.
It. Yeah, I. I was.
I'm a bit angry about this show
(02:37):
because it's one of those shows where
I started watching it and then quickly found
myself. Like, it was noise in the background.
Okay. And then as
I get to the end, like. Like the. Finally
the reveal of what happened to,
Cadence, the. The summer before
(02:59):
which she's been trying to figure out this whole
thing. I mean, she ends up with trauma
to the Point of PTSD and
amnesia that is trauma
responsive. So
you, you find out what happened.
Like, I can see how it would be. I
(03:21):
can see reading the book. This is a very good
story to tell via book.
>> Will (03:26):
Okay.
>> Sarah (03:27):
I have some issues with how they explained it, how they
tell it via show. And, and
I, I saw a lot of Julie Pleck.
Just like, I'm like you. I see what you're
doing here and you
definitely want this show to continue,
but I don't think that's the way the book works. I
(03:48):
know that there's somewhat of a sequel called
the Family of Liars, but.
Or Family of Liars, but at the
same time I'm just. And they, and they kind
of set it up through a few different things in the
finale. But I'm thinking in my head, I'm like,
why do I even care? Because the
(04:08):
current story should be over. It
should be over. And then they did this
weird thing that makes, it makes you think.
It's not. It's just in
comparison to other quote unquote
young adult shows that I've watched recently.
This is, this is not up there. I
(04:28):
mean from what I hear, this was in
competition to Netflix's his new show called the
Waterfront, which is trying to be a new
Yellowstone. So it was either we were liars of
Waterfront, from what I understand. I chose the
better of the two.
>> Will (04:43):
Okay. Yes. Well, I haven't heard of the
Amazon show. I have, I have seen promos
for, for the Netflix show the Waterfront.
>> Sarah (04:50):
But.
>> Will (04:51):
Yeah, yeah, but now I was, I was all.
This weekend was, watched. Well watch
the NBA Finals, you know, so. But
as far as other other television programs,
I actually, I saw
Oldie but Goody, at
the local performing arts center was the
(05:12):
something like the Hot the Musical. And you know,
it's it's the stage adaptation of the old
1959 film that starred Tony Curtis, Jack
Lemmon and Marilyn Monroe. which it
was a big fit of nostalgia for me because when I was in
college actually in my acting class,
we actually actually performed a scene,
(05:33):
from that, from that movie. And
and, and so the basic
story is it's like these two, two friends,
two guys who basically see a mob hit
in Chicago have to go on the run and they have
to, they have to. And. And they
stole away on a
(05:54):
trip, cross country trip with a all girl
chorus. And of course they, they had to dress up. They
disguised themselves as, as women. So
it was Joe and Jerry. And Joe and Jerry
became Josephine and Daphne. So
I, I played the Jack Lemon character and the one
I play. well, in the one scene that we did back
(06:16):
in the college and I actually did, even though
there's a photo of it somewhere out there,
there is a photo of me dressed up as Daphne.
M. playing. Playing, you know, Jerry's character,
as Daphne in the scene that we did from very, very
early in the movie. But, I think the photo has probably been lost to Tom
somewhere. but, yeah, I had a little. I had a little
(06:37):
trip down nostalgia lane this weekend.
>> Sarah (06:40):
Yeah, it sounds like it.
>> Will (06:43):
Yeah.
>> Sarah (06:44):
Speaking, about oldies but goodies, it
was announced that Jon Bernthal will appear as
Punisher in Spider Man. Brand new day.
and my only, my only thought is,
okay, so we should get Daredevil too. Right?
I mean, Matt's already appeared
in, no Way Home.
(07:06):
So, so like,
like, I, I, I definitely
want to understand. And then, and then I go into
this thought process. Well, if you're gonna do,
then based on how Daredevil
Born Again ended,
Spidey has to show up for it to make
(07:27):
any sense in the second season.
>> Will (07:30):
Yeah. You know. Yeah. So I've been thinking about
this too, especially since I saw the news. I think it dropped over the
weekend. And, and of course
there is, you know, as far as, like, in the comics, there is the Amazing,
spider man, 129, which was when
Daredevil, excuse me, not Daredevil, but the Punisher was
first introduced in, in into
(07:52):
the Marvel universe. And so just
to get back into the comic book lore, the
Jackal, who was a, enemy of Spider man, actually hires
Frank to, to kill Spider man. And in
this particular comic. And, and so
a lot of things happen at the end of the, you know, Frank
and, and Spidey have a couple
(08:12):
showdowns and stuff. But, at the end of the day, Frank
realizes that the, the Jackal actually was manipulating
him. And, and then the sort of, you know, and it
sort of takes them on the path, you know, of course, eventually
we all know that, you know, Frank, is the anti hero,
but, you know, but is friendly towards like, Spider man and other
people in the. As far as. As far as in the Marvel
(08:33):
universe. So. But I wonder, you know, so when I saw this
news, I was like, are they going to adapt that story? Or to your point,
like, you know, given that what we saw in.
At the end of, the last Spider man movie, you know,
Peter's mind is like white bus strange already.
Gonna, like, have some kind of mentor, mentee type of
relationship, you know, to fill in that void that, you know,
that Tony played and then, of course, later, Strange played
(08:56):
in the mcu. So, you know, I was just like,
yeah, I'm starting a theory spiral, too. And also to your point about,
you know, Will. Will he show up? Will Spidey show up in Daredevil?
>> Sarah (09:05):
He has to. Okay, this
can't be a question. Okay, Feige, if you're
gonna do a universe and you're gonna tell
me that Fisk is basically create. Has
created his own island, that is New York,
M. Okay. Because somehow the mayor
has all of this power to do that, and he
(09:25):
manipulated the system, and Spider man is
in New York, and he doesn't help. He
doesn't help. Makes no sense. Makes no
sense. And this is. This is part of the issue with
shared universes. But, like, like,
you. You have to give us something,
and then you can give us everything in Spider Man.
(09:46):
A brand new day.
>> Will (09:47):
Yeah. Yeah. I might
be making this up, but didn't this. In this past season of Daredevil,
Born again? They referenced Spider Man. Yeah.
Okay. Okay. Yeah.
>> Sarah (09:58):
Like. Like, I,
I, I do. And. And we
even see, Daredevil show up in,
In the Spider man show that we watched
earlier this year. Yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah. So. So,
like, all the pieces are here. And. And yes, I
(10:19):
am more curious about Spider
man and Frank's dynamic than Spider
man and Max dynamic, but
I just. And also,
oh, while we're taking requests, because obviously
this is. This is what we're doing here. Karen
Page. Karen Page. We.
(10:39):
We need resolution about what happened.
Okay? And by. And by we,
I mean all of us who are still
holding a torch for
Frank and Karen. Okay. Give us a
damn kiss, people.
>> Will (10:58):
See, this is where. This is where, you know, I don't have any rooting
interest one way or another with. With the shipping there,
so I'm. I'm just sort of like, you do.
>> Sarah (11:06):
You do. You're on my side. Okay? Just. Just
call it. Your vote has already been
cast. I've already signed it over. Okay.
>> Will (11:14):
All right. I handed over a proxy to you. Okay. Okay.
Yeah, I gave him a proxy. Okay.
>> Sarah (11:19):
That's the way this works. Okay.
I just. I mean, I have. I have wanted
the Daredevil crossover, and we're getting
pun. It's just all the pieces are there, and
it's kind of cool because, yeah, like. And
I'm sure a lot of people have talked about this aspect of it is
that Tom Holland was Shooting a movie with
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John Bernthal when he was trying, when
he was doing, they were doing the Spider man casting.
And so Tom Holland read lines with
John Bernthal that ultimately led to him
getting the part. So it's, it's very full
circle. And then that just tells me you better
do some sort of mentor mentees thing,
(12:02):
happening. Even though I, I don't.
This, this just means that Daredevil
season two has so much
set up, so much it has to do
because the Frank that we left
off and we met in season
one, I, I hope
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he's, he's a little bit more, how do we put it
before he goes and meets young Peter Parker.
Okay, I, I
hope, some, some blocks are
put in place, so to speak. So,
and then the. Okay,
okay. Mahershala, Mahershala,
(12:45):
Mahershala, I love you. I love you. but you
gotta let it go.
I'm sorry. I see you in these Jurassic
park trailers. I see you in ScarJo,
and I'm just thinking in my head, what are they doing
in that movie? And if I, I don't,
I don't know. I don't know about this. I
(13:08):
was. If, like, how, how long ago was
it announced now? Six years. Because it was announced
in 2019. Right?
>> Will (13:15):
That's right. Yep.
>> Sarah (13:16):
Yeah. Yeah, it was the
last great hurrah before every, like the world
changed, completely. So,
so. And he's still, he's still
like. You can play Blades, Blade's father
at this point.
>> Will (13:33):
Yeah, A little flashback.
Yeah, yeah. I mean, yeah, it's
funny. So not only. Yeah, because he, you know, he did mention, I
guess to your point about the, Jurassic, what it was. What's
the title for the new Jurassic park movie? I don't know. I, I'm
not, I'm completely off of that universe. But,
but he just basically is like, call Marvel, let them know I'm ready. But
(13:54):
I mean this, this film has gone through
like what, two, three directors, I think
four, maybe a handful of writers. And
interestingly enough, I think David Goyer, who actually wrote
the Blade film back in the day with,
for Wesley Snipes. I was reading, I was reading
interview with him and you know, and of course, you know, people
now really associate him more with DC because of all
(14:17):
the work that he's done, you know, with
I think man of Steel and, and, and Some of
Krypton and you know, and so many other
dc, projects, also that think that other
Suicide Squad movie two, the first one, not the James Gun
one but you know, but he, but he did cut
his teeth on Blade as far
(14:37):
as he's like look, I'm, I'm here if y' all, if
y' all need me to write a script, I'm here. So who knows?
Yeah, everybody, everybody associated with
anything of Bleed, they're like we're
here.
>> Sarah (14:50):
But well it's it's Marvel in general.
I mean Marvel or dc, anytime you're
associated with any big franchise and even though
you're promoting a different product project, it's always like
so I mean an
association is even a stretch. It's like
you're just on the list of people potentially
(15:11):
to get this part
for some reason those like less than five
minute interviews, they seem to run out of
questions very quickly about the actual project of
promotions.
but yeah, what that project.
And like my last point about it is also
(15:32):
we get it Mahershala, technically you were ready
five years ago and that's great.
But that also tells me you
haven't aren't reading the script. And,
and I'm I'm not going just to see you as
Blade. I would actually like to see a good movie.
>> Will (15:52):
Exactly exactly.
>> Sarah (15:54):
Like like are you, have
you seen some of the pieces of trash that have been
produced when you just
are just like just put something together?
Madame Web.
>> Will (16:06):
Yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah.
Oh gosh, yeah yeah, hopefully. Well, I
know, I know next week we'll start start talking
about Ironheart which M is premiering tonight and
seeing things seen seen
mixed reviews about it but you know, so,
but I'm glad that a lot of folks are
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really just pushing it. You know I think fandom
and just really were
put you know been pushing the, the, the
advertisement for it. I will say watching NBA Finals given
that it's all you know, they, that the
result ABC is owned by Disney. I will say I did see
more a lot of advertisements during, during the, during the
(16:47):
basketball playoffs for the
for the show. So looking forward to catching it this,
this, this this week. And then I guess they're dropping
first three tonight and then they're dropped the
next the remaining three next Tuesday. So.
>> Sarah (17:02):
Yep yep. Oh the
remaining three next Tuesday.
>> Will (17:07):
Yeah yeah, they just. Yeah.
>> Sarah (17:09):
Oh they changed it again.
>> Will (17:11):
They changed. Yeah yeah so they changed.
Yeah yeah so yeah, I know we didn't get a chance. I didn't,
I didn't mention it on our, on our show. May have posted
on our socials. But yeah, the, the the
slate is the first three tonight, and then the next three
next week. So just.
>> Sarah (17:27):
That actually works in our favor, so.
>> Will (17:29):
Yeah, exactly.
>> Sarah (17:30):
I'm all for it.
>> Will (17:32):
Yeah. I already adjusted our. I already adjusted our schedule. I was like,
okay, just, you know, we know. We know our content
thing going into, you know, the next two weeks. Going into Superman.
>> Sarah (17:41):
Yeah, yeah, Superman. And then this
other little film called, Fantastic Four. It's just an
indie project. It's gonna be very small.
>> Will (17:49):
Yeah. Very, very small.
>> Sarah (17:51):
Very, very small. Yeah, we. July.
July, is looking bright.
but before we get there, we have to close out
the studio. Season one,
starting off with episode eight, the Golden
Globes, which,
out of the three, this was my favorite episode.
>> Will (18:12):
Yeah.
>> Sarah (18:14):
I love the ongoing gag
of all of the acceptance speeches
thanking, Sal. I really like
that. I thought that was. That was
honestly so great.
Towards the end, it got a little overplayed, but I was still
just, like, there for it.
>> Will (18:33):
Yeah. And.
>> Sarah (18:34):
And I. I, think this
continues to go back to
some discussions that we've had in the past. And.
And Matt. Matt is very.
He. They. They did an interesting thing with
his character because there
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is so much ego, but
it's maxed by
this naiveness that I think
viewers can see themselves in. Matt.
>> Will (19:07):
Yeah.
>> Sarah (19:08):
while. While they're able to
also take that. That good quality about
him and then kind of twist
it and then also bring out
the. I'm the big man at the top of the
pyramid,
like. Like I deserve
respect, even though I don't know
(19:31):
how to get it until I ask the other person
and they tell me, well, you gotta write it in their
contracts.
>> Will (19:40):
There was so. Yeah, there was
so many things with that scene with him and Tess
Arandos, who wrote. Who was the CEO of Netflix.
>> Sarah (19:48):
Right.
>> Will (19:48):
So. Yeah. And. And yeah, that.
That, To your point, that's one of the things that
made this episode for me probably of the
bunch might agree, my favorite of the
last three that we. That we watched this week. and
the other thing, too, is I thought about as I
was watching the episode and, you know, and they were having the. The.
(20:09):
The. The M. Interviews, and of course, Zoe Kravitz is there,
and of course she's one of the front runners. But, you
know, when Matt was walking on the red carpet and having the junket
interviews, there was also, like, all the influencers. And I
couldn't help but think about our conversation that we had
last week, about. Yeah, you know,
how they'll just show up but,
(20:29):
you know, do their thing. But also you know,
you know, they're just there on the carpet. But they don't actually. Actually go into
the, Into. Into the ceremonies themselves. They just do their thing
and just move on. But also just, again, how influence of culture is
just really. Is really driving the train so much
these days as far as. As far as films
and TV and casting.
>> Sarah (20:49):
Right, right. But they weren't even allowed in the ceremony.
It's like this weird thing. They're.
They're. They're definitely part of
media and attention and word of
mouth and that whole thing which, which the
movies need. So you. So
you see Matt walk through and,
(21:09):
and suddenly it's like, oh, well, I'm
used to the old media and how. But I don't
understand this. This new wave of new
media. And then I go through the
golden gates and get into this place where these
people I've worked with and I
admire and all. And like, the
artists, like, all of this emphasis on.
(21:32):
On him going to an award show
where they celebrate work.
And Matt told us from day one, like,
his job is to decide
which movies get made.
>> Will (21:46):
Yeah.
>> Sarah (21:47):
And so what we're finding over the course
of the season and really drives home in this episode
is like, how much
that deciding what movies get made is a
big deal. However,
does that really put you on the team of
the creative artistry
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that is filmmaking?
and. And I thought that was. That was really good
because it also parallels
the episode from last week,
with the. At the charity event where
then he's like, he. He's the
spokesperson for the arts.
And. And we see him rejected in that
(22:31):
world because they're all science people.
Right. And now you see him, kind
of rejected in this artist world
because it's like, no, you just count the beans. You're just the
bean counter.
>> Will (22:43):
You're just the bean counter.
>> Sarah (22:44):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, Sal deserves
more recognition than you.
>> Will (22:50):
Yeah, yeah. And
Patty too. I mean, Patty, you know, because. Because
the fact, you know, she got fired as head of the
studio. Studio. And then, you
know, he. Going back to the beginning where he begs her to come
on board to, you know, to help with the,
G. Lee movie, as a producer. And,
you know, she, you know, they have that whole conversation. This is like, you
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know, you know, she can, you know, because she is
the, the producer and the
creative, you know, not she, you know,
she can go up on the stage and, and with the rest of the
folks. But, you know, but to your point, I mean, the
bean counter and, and. And so, and so, of course, going Back
to the comment that he and Sarandos has.
It's like, you know, you know, Sarandos is like, looks at him kind of incredulous.
(23:36):
Like, what do you mean? You're, you're part of the.
You're, you're, you're, you're, you know, you're an artist. He's like,
really, dude, You're a bean counter. Yeah, no, just don't blur.
>> Sarah (23:45):
Yeah, right, right. I think it's
also more like
like the old, old dog being like, oh
boy, you, you have no idea.
You, you don't. You haven't figured it out yet
that like we're,
we're, we're. We're not, we're
(24:05):
not fully in this circle. It's,
it's just an interesting thing considering.
this is a kind of a
documentary style
type show or work
workplace scenarios show
that is centered around filmmaking. And yet
(24:25):
the, the characters, the, the staff who we
are following, they're not the artists.
They're not the actors, directors,
or even writers. They're, they're the,
the producers who
do very is. It's very hard to
describe what actually is their
(24:46):
their job, what they're responsible
for.
>> Will (24:50):
I mean, yeah, you have Matt, the executive who like
picture, you know, is that this
bean counter, you know, the big, the picture of
Patty, you know, the, the studio, you know, she's, she's a
producer. So you know, so yeah, it's making sure that the production
runs on time and, and you know, acquiring,
helping to acquire the talent and
you know.
>> Sarah (25:10):
Well, yeah, but she's not also casting
director either.
>> Will (25:14):
No, no, no.
>> Sarah (25:15):
But like, like producers,
they, they do a little.
Understand, but they also like, it
varies and then you have executive producers and
then at the end of the day they're just the people
who end up putting money forward to fund the project.
>> Will (25:34):
Right, right.
>> Sarah (25:35):
Yeah, exactly. So they're, they're the,
the AMEX card. The, the
other thing about this episode that I
find and I, of course I'm saying this as
Zoe Kravitz appears in three, all
three of these episodes. It's an
ongoing thing.
I noticed that if you think about it,
(25:57):
over the course of this season he,
Seth has pulled in more director
talent than any other
like any other like actors
or, or even when he brings in actors
like Olivia Wilde or even Zoe Kravitz, who
directed her first movie last year year with Blink
(26:19):
Twice. She like there, there are
also actors and actresses who have directed before.
I mean Zach, Zac
Efron and
the, The Franco brother who. I'm blanking.
I was gonna say Dan for some reason, but Dave
Franco. Those two make sense because
(26:42):
of their relationships with Seth Rogen.
Clearly photo friendly, but
I, I find that. And,
and am I right that, did
Seth direct more of these
episodes than actually write these episodes?
>> Will (26:59):
So he and his partner Evan was Elvin
Goldberg. I think it's. Yeah, so they,
I think, I think they split duties. I think
Evan really did a lot of the writing over the course of the
season. To go back and look at the credits. Seth, I think
directed some, but he was,
I think he was more, you know, more
(27:20):
in front of the camera,
this disco than, Than behind it. Of course,
obviously they're both producers on that and. But you're right,
it truly is like phone a friend. Because
not only that, but another thing that really struck me about this
episode was, the
cross. You know, using cross talent from other,
(27:42):
Other streaming services. Like, I mean, obviously you had Adam Scott, you
know, severance clearly there, but then, you know, you had,
you had your boy Antony Starr,
and, and and Aaron Morati show up.
You know, there's again, another Seth Rogen. Pretty show
with the boys. But in, you know, you know, so, you know, we
saw that, you know, twice. We see, you know,
(28:02):
whereas in the past in the old traditional
broadcast model, you would rarely see across
pollination between networks like this. But here,
you know, you, you do, with this, with
this, with this show, which I, you know, which
also really just kind of, you know, stuck out to me a little bit. But you're
right also about. With the directors too, because, you know, he had Zack Snyder show
(28:23):
up as well, so Quinta Brunson, I mean, it was
just like it, it truly was like, you know,
a lot of these creatives, as you, as you were saying,
have. Have worn both hats of both not only working
in front of the camera as far as acting, but also, have
directed various projects as well.
>> Sarah (28:40):
Yeah. Yeah.
and then it's. It's hard with the next two
to really talk about them separately because they just go hand
in hand. But we have, we have
Cinemacon, which is the full setup.
essentially, the crew is headed to Las
Vegas for Cinemacon, where they're gonna give
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a big presentation and,
Matt's idea about an old school
Hollywood. Hollywood, party
go sideways. And
he ends up getting high along with,
Zoe Kravitz and, and,
yeah, and, and pretty much the
(29:20):
entire crew. And then
that leads to the presentation which
is where, when they actually give their
presentation, at Cinemacon. What,
what I didn't understand is like you guys had
a 7:30 call time.
Yeah, like, like
and then you're in a party. I, I, I didn't
(29:43):
understand the logistics about that.
but yeah, it's just,
I don't know. I, I still have to figure out
what my gripes are and why these
two episodes, it just felt long.
It felt long and tired for
me.
>> Will (30:04):
Well, I, I, you know, I, the bit
with the shrooms wore very thin for me
after a while. Yeah, I think that was my biggest,
I mean the whole Cinemacon stuff. I mean, you know,
I've said this before about this, about the studio
and especially, you know, you and I both list, as I
said before and I'll I'll just repeat it real quick. You know, you know, I listen
(30:24):
to entertainment podcasts in this space.
You know, kind of funny. You know, Rocha
and Snyder and Kristian, all, you know, all these
talking, his campia, all these folks talk about
CinemaCon. So it was kind of, you know, so for,
so was interesting. And I was
listening to the Ringer, tv. They,
(30:44):
you know, they had Matt Baloney who, who was,
who, who hosts the talk, the Talk podcast.
Who's that? You know, he was an actual, he's an actual entertainment
reporter who actually appeared in, in, you know, they
had him voice a couple
his things during the season and then he actually
showed up in these, in this episode because they're trying to keep
guilt, you know, keep Griffith, away from him. But
(31:08):
they were just talking about how in many ways this was
kind of a peek behind the curtain for CinemaCon because you know
we've all heard about, because we, you know, we listen to these
podcasts and these things we've heard about Cinemacon
and you know, you know, the footage to get shown
there and stuff and reactions to it and all that. So,
you know, so from that standpoint, I did like the episodes
because I felt like it was kind of a peek behind the curtain
(31:31):
as far as a compressed version of what happens there as far as
like, you know, as far as the presentation aspect of it. I don't know about the
parties and all that, but you know, the, the, the actual
presentation that, that Maya put on and
that in the execs that where they were like planning
to, you know, to, to roll out the slate
of films that the studio had, you know, I,
(31:52):
I did get a sort of flavor like. Oh yeah, I read all about this. So I
think, you know, so if that's how it is, because
Cinemacon is, you know, where the,
you know, the studio showed to the motion
picture trade association, the theaters, I should say
movie theaters association, where they, you know, preview
the films for the year. So, you know, so I did like that
aspect of the episode.
>> Sarah (32:13):
Yeah, I. I'm right there with you. Where
I, I like the, the
concept of it, but
the shrooms of it all. And then the
Griffin part where.
And I love Bryan Cranston. I just. I was
like, not. Not in on
this gag that would never end, and.
(32:35):
And we knew that they would pull it off. And I,
I. I don't know. I kind of.
I kind of feel like what was also
missing was
it can't m. I don't know how
you're gonna feel about this comparison, but I'm gonna throw it out here.
>> Will (32:56):
Yeah, go ahead.
>> Sarah (32:57):
Honestly, looking back on it,
I think my feelings are just all a little
ambiguous because it reminds me about
the Bear season three.
>> Will (33:08):
That's good. Yeah, that's a very good call. Very good
comparison.
>> Sarah (33:11):
It's hard to see, like, okay, well,
now we're at the end, and we have this big, like,
technically, part one and part two finale.
And yet what has Matt learned?
Like, what has the arc been? And
granted, this is season one, so it's more about
all of these characters and really for us to
(33:32):
understand what's going on. But
I. I still feel like he thinks he's a bit more of
an artist than he should. Yeah,
I. I don't. I don't know what overall
his, arc is.
>> Will (33:49):
Yeah.
>> Sarah (33:49):
And. And that's why it kind of felt
unsatisfying of how they ended it. It's just
because, like, he had this good
speech. He talks at the. In
episode nine, at the beginning with his mom and
about his loneliness a little bit. And
then during the presentation, he
acknowledges, like, like,
(34:11):
his friends and these people he surrounded
with him, himself with
are like, the true loves of his life.
Not. Not just movies, but I.
I don't know. It just. It didn't land the way I
needed it to. And I think also
over the course of this season, for it
(34:31):
being a comedy and these days,
especially with the streaming ones, I mean, to bring up the
bear again, you.
Comedies are good not just because
they're able to get you to laugh,
but they also have the tendency to
every now and then give
(34:52):
you a sad clown and.
And really hit you with a
big dramatic moment. That. That
is like a gut punch. Now, maybe
that's, like. Maybe I'm thinking about long
term comedies where they pull out those kind of things
in seasons two or three.
But at the same time,
(35:15):
I don't know, I feel like this show
mechanically has a lot going for it,
but subsequently,
it's lacking a bit in terms of
like, okay, well, I went on this ride.
I don't really know where I ended up though.
>> Will (35:33):
Yeah, well, yeah, you know, it's,
it's interesting, interesting that you say that because, you
know, when I look back on this, on this show, and
maybe as part, you know, part where you're talking about
like an arc or journey or, or
whatever. On
the one hand, I felt like in many ways this,
(35:54):
this, this, this first season was very
episodic where there was
no like you know, to, you know, you're, you're saying like,
you know, where was the growth or where was the
evolution or those kind of things. You know,
to me it was like each. Even
though they were like. Because, you know, whenever
we first started watching it, like with the Kool Aid film,
(36:16):
you know, it wasn't like they, it was a
serialized. We, you know, we
start from the casting and then we go to this and we
go to that. It wasn't like, you know, every episode
had its own like sort of standalone story. Yeah, there's like the
bigger issues going on with the studio behind it,
you know, but you know, it
wasn't until like really the. These last three where
(36:38):
it was sort of like, okay, yeah, we're pulling, you know, all these little things that happen
throughout the season. Now we're going to pull it together. And then we had this two part
finale that felt like a kind of a
serialized story. so it, you know, so it
felt like for, for me it was kind of like all of a sudden it
felt like it was like a, like a, A hard pivot
from like episodic to like, almost to like. Oh yeah, we,
we did have this sort of through line throughout the season as far as
(37:01):
not through line, but we did have these underlying stories and they just
all kind of wrapped them up in a little bow here at the end with
the Cinemacon and the presentation.
>> Sarah (37:09):
Well, I don't even know if it's,
because. Okay, one of the better episodes
of the season is the, the war,
okay, between Sal and
Emma. and
I got her name right, right?
>> Will (37:29):
S. And Quinn.
>> Sarah (37:30):
Quinn. Quinn. Sal and Quinn.
Yeah, they. And. And yet when I
think about it, it's like,
okay, so we never, like that was episode five. We
never circled back to them. I still don.
>> Will (37:46):
Was like Episodic. It was just like.
>> Sarah (37:48):
Yeah, it's, but, but what I was, what I was getting
at is like even the, when you say
stories like wrapped in together,
I, I just look at them all as callbacks, like
call back to this movie. Because of course it's a
studio. Like we're, they're doing
so many different projects that are all at different states in
production that you're gonna get.
(38:11):
I thought it was a clip, clever thing to do
to sprinkle in like those names and
then bring them out as like
this is our new slate of, of films.
Us knowing like where, where
they are in production. I mean Black Wing hasn't even
filmed. It's just like this is the announcement
(38:33):
but it's still character wise,
like not even putting Matt out of the
picture. All of the characters, the ensemble
didn't really have a, a clear arc
either. So that's
looking at season two. That's something
that I hope that they develop more of.
(38:56):
especially with Matt and now that
they've established the team, the
workplace, what Continental
is, I, I
just, I, I want to see
more, more of an arc.
>> Will (39:13):
Yeah, yeah, I can see that. I mean, yeah, I mean I
think the other thing too is this,
you know, the,
you know, will they follow up? For example, like, you
know, one of the big things they dropped in this episode was
the whole issue of the studio possibly
being bought by, you know, by a tech company which is kind
(39:34):
of, you know, again another meta reference given that the show
is airing on a tech company. But you know,
platform but you know, but you know, well
those are some of those like
you know, we'll, you know, to see what the, see what the fallout
like you said from and when I think
about it too, it's like, okay, what's, you dropped this big
(39:55):
bombshell that like you're trying to hide
that you know, they're trying to keep the
you know, Matt baloney from like finding out that Amazon
or was was thinking about buying Continental.
And you know, will they follow up on that? And you
know, you know, because it seemed,
you know, that it seemed like the presentation went
(40:16):
really, really well and. Yeah. And so
will they follow up on those kind of things? And you know, like you said, some
of the callbacks to some of the earlier stories, will those
things start getting pulled forward or, or were they
truly just one offs that that
happened and we just won't reference them again?
>> Sarah (40:33):
Right, right. I, I, I think they'll follow
up. From what I've seen I don't
know how they're going to do it though. And
I had a thought and I lost it.
I hate when that happens. But,
but I think, I think they, they have some,
some good, good follow through.
>> Will (40:54):
Yeah.
>> Sarah (40:55):
Yeah.
>> Will (40:56):
Yeah. I mean, one thing that did to you as far
as like, stories and just
We'll think it back to episode eight with the Golden
Globes was Matt and Patty's conversation about like, when
she was crying in the car. And I did like
how they did, you know, show
that kind of low. that was, I guess if there was
(41:16):
like a lowest point for like Matt in the season, that was probably
it. You know, whenever he was, you know, he leaves the
award show and, and then of course,
you know, with the, with the presentation at the end
there and there, you know, he's bailing out Griffith
after he like, you know, uses the Kool Aid rig to
come down and stumped there on the, on
(41:36):
the, with the teleprompter or movies, you know, that. That was
sort of like that celebratory moment that. So I, I
like the way that the season ended, especially when you had that
earlier low that he had was he was just, you know,
alone in his limo just, just, Just crying away.
>> Sarah (41:53):
Yeah. Yeah. Or after,
Ron Howard.
>> Will (41:58):
Yeah.
>> Sarah (41:58):
Verbally assaulted him.
>> Will (42:00):
Yeah.
>> Sarah (42:01):
Or. Or after he
leaves the charity event in a,
>> Will (42:07):
Oh, ambulance. Yeah, that was pretty. Yeah. He says he's had some pretty
low moments. Come to think of it, now I feel like.
>> Sarah (42:13):
I feel like every, A lot of the episodes end with
Matt alone and in a bad
situation mentally, physically. You
know.
>> Will (42:27):
He had his triumphant at Cinemacon.
>> Sarah (42:31):
Yeah. Yeah, he definitely had a, had a
moment of triumph then. And
that, that's really, Now that I have
my thought back, is that something. That's something
that bothered me is
okay, they, they find out
that there's an offer for
Amazon to buy the Continental
(42:53):
Studio. And,
and so then they think, but if we deliver a
good presentation, that
deal will, will be done.
I, I don't understand that logic.
>> Will (43:09):
No. So. No. So no, if it,
if it had flopped. So
that their idea is that.
>> Sarah (43:17):
Right, right. Like that if it had
flopped, then that deal would be done.
>> Will (43:23):
Yeah. Yeah, they're. Yeah.
Well, I think the biggest thing is they, they.
>> Sarah (43:28):
I guess they didn't want to be bought by,
by Amazon, right?
>> Will (43:33):
Well, yeah, they wanted. Well, I think, I think that they're trying
to basically show that this studio is still.
Still relevant. So, that it
just, I guess if it goes off
successfully, the value of the. Of the studio
becomes so high that, you know, that the tech company is just going
to be like, scared off from buying it and they save their jobs
(43:53):
because if they get bought up, they get bought out, obviously they're
all, you know, they're all gonna get like, you know, eliminated.
So.
>> Sarah (43:59):
Okay, I. That. That's a little bit better.
>> Will (44:04):
It's like, it's like. Yeah, it's like all the Paramount stuff
that's going on with Skydance, you know, it's just. It's paralleling a lot
of the things that are happening.
>> Sarah (44:12):
I understand what it's. What it's paralleling.
I just don't know if
the projects that they were
promoting was enough for like, the
Continental. But I also don't have a
good sense of like, what the Continentals
worth was at the start
of the. The season either, if, you
(44:34):
know.
>> Will (44:34):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think it
was,
I think it was sort of. It was sort of in flux, to be
honest. you know, because it seemed like
it, you know, I guess
it was sort of like. I guess like Paramount, you know, they
have these big tent pole, you know, they have these big splashy things,
(44:55):
like, you know, Top Gun and a couple other films
in our. In our universe.
and, you know, it goes back to old legacy Hollywood because, you
know, they still have their old, you know, they still had their big,
you know, production lot and everything like that.
but Griffin was able to, like, you know, he. I guess he was a venture
(45:15):
capitalist or something like that, and he was able to like, you know,
acquire them, print on the cheap. So they were just. He was
just trying to make it a very profitable company.
Yeah, yeah. So I think the idea
was, you know, if they, you know, with. With the slate of
films, they'll just be. They can like, push back
on the narrative that they're just limping along that, you
(45:36):
know, a big predator like Amazon can just come
in and like, just take them over. Like. Like what happened with
mgm.
>> Sarah (45:43):
Right, right, yeah.
>> Will (45:44):
Right, yeah.
>> Sarah (45:46):
well. Well, that is a wrap on the
studio Season one. a good
break and refresher from our. Our
usual stuff, which we will have an
onslaught of throughout, the rest of June
through July or. Honestly.
Yeah, because we're. We're recording on July 1st,
(46:07):
right? Yeah, y. Yeah, yeah, July 1st.
So starting in July, the onslaught begins.
Back to your normal program, people.
>> Will (46:16):
Yeah, Yep. Back to your normal. Yeah, we. We
were. We dipped our toe into some prestige
tv. Well, we always do. I mean, we're going to be going talk. We'll be
talking about the bear next month as well. But, But yeah,
yeah, but we'll get back to your regularly scheduled
nerdom.
>> Sarah (46:33):
And on that note, Will, why don't you tell our listeners where they can find
you?
>> Will (46:37):
Yes, you can find me at, Will on
all the socials at Will W I L L M P.
>> Sarah (46:43):
O L K. And you can follow me there too at
SJ Belmont. Sjblm M O N T. Please
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Spotify, YouTube or wherever your podcast. Good night. Geek out.
You're welcome.
>> Will (47:16):
Sam.
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