June 11, 2025 • 55 mins
In this episode of Scene N Nerd, Sarah and Will dive into their latest TV binges.
Sarah starts the show with her thoughts on "Motorheads" and its intriguing blend of mystery and nostalgia, highlighting the unexpected twists and the darker themes that unfold as the plot progresses. Sarah shares her thoughts on the character dynamics, especially regarding the twins and their portrayal, while reflecting on the show's potential for a second season.
Shifting gears, they chat about "Ginny and Georgia" Season 3, with Sarah expressing her frustrations over character arcs and the show's handling of friendships. Expect some passionate opinions on the direction of the story and the significance of character relationships as they dissect the season's developments.
They also explore the K-drama "Our Unknown Soul," praising its unique narrative structure and the performances of its lead actresses. Sarah shares her enjoyment of the show’s ability to draw parallels between the characters' past and present, while Will highlights the challenges of watching foreign language dramas and the importance of subtitles over dubs.
As they wrap up their discussions, the duo dives into the latest episode of "The Studio," focusing on the comedic yet chaotic filming process that unfolds. They reflect on the show's clever commentary on Hollywood, character egos, and the industry’s quirks, while also predicting future cameos and plot twists.
Finally, they touch on the latest updates regarding "The Last of Us" Season 3, revealing insights from the showrunners and speculating on what fans can expect next. With plenty of laughter and insightful commentary, this episode is a must-listen for fans of teen dramas, K-dramas, and the intricacies of the entertainment industry!
0:00 Welcome
1:00 Sarah's "Motorheads" review, "Ginny and Georgia" and "Our Unknown Soul" thoughts.
17:34 The Studio" Episodes 2-4 review
48:03 "The Last of Us" Season 3 update
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>> Sarah (00:00):
music
(00:10):
Greetings
nerds. This is Scene N Nerd. I'm your host, Sarah Belmont, and with me, as
always, is our Mr. Producer, Will Polk How are you doing tonight,
Will?
>> Will (00:20):
Doing very well, Sarah How you doing this evening?
>> Sarah (00:22):
I'm doing good.
>> Will (00:24):
That's good.
>> Sarah (00:26):
Yeah. So.
>> Will (00:28):
Yeah. Yeah.
>> Sarah (00:31):
So I'm, like, going through
a, lot of TV show binges right now.
>> Will (00:36):
Oh, cool.
>> Sarah (00:38):
so I don't know if you've heard about this show. It's
not a Will show. It's definitely more my lane.
but on Amazon prime, there's a show, this new
show called, Motorheads.
>> Will (00:49):
No.
>> Sarah (00:51):
Yeah, it's with Ryan Philippe. He's like the notable
actor in it. and it's
kind of a. A teen.
It's. Yes, it is a teen drama.
and. But they, they. It's
about a town and some history, and
a lot of the adults of
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these kids, are
wrapped up in a. Somewhat of a mystery
from when they were children. And so you
have. They. They do a good job, I have to
say, of the writers of paralleling the.
The present and like, that idea that history
repeats. and,
(01:33):
I kept, like, this has probably been out for a
month now, if not maybe three weeks. And
it. They released all of the episodes at once. It's 10
episodes, about an hour each episode. So it was.
It was fairly long. And. And I was good. I didn't
binge it. Oh. Like,
Like. Well, you know, I had some stuff come up
last week, so I didn't like straight binge, but
(01:55):
I did, get through it within a week.
because everyone kept saying the ending was
really good. And I'm gonna,
I'm gonna say this.
>> Will (02:09):
Should I put a spoiler alert warning up or.
>> Sarah (02:12):
I haven't decided yet. I haven't decided yet.
so I just. I
just. I. I did not see it coming. I did
laugh when it happened. it is a good ending,
but at the same time, I'm just like. That got
dark. That was
a bit excessive.
So I don't know. But.
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But yeah, I, I can see why there was a lot of talk about
it, and I'm glad I wasn't spoiled or anything.
it was decent and I, I do hope it. I do
hope, and I think it will be getting a season two
for sure. especially since, Man,
I'm blanking on. The Summer I Turned Pretty
is wrapping up its series
(02:55):
this year. So Motorheads
will be like the Amazon's continued
teen drama. So,
like, as a replacement makes sense. and, I mean,
there are Plenty of female characters in that show,
too. It's not completely a male driven. I
mean, the. The leads are technically two
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twins. Even though they look. They arguably
don't look alike. Bother me.
Like, you could get some.
>> Will (03:24):
So where is. Or are they supposed to be
identical twins or this?
>> Sarah (03:29):
I mean, once a boy, one's a girl. You can't get too identical with
that, of course. But I was
also just like, can we get like
some sim. Like, there should be some
features that are. Are similar.
And to me, I was just like,
but. But, I can tell
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why they got casted in the sense.
So, so I did that and then,
unknowingly, because I was on the fence about
starting it at all. I, I
binged this weekend,
Ginny and Georgia, season three.
>> Will (04:08):
Okay.
>> Sarah (04:09):
And I think it was sometime last year
when I binged the first two seasons. I was late to this
show that the. The third
season is the best season so far.
and I,
I just want to say, if anybody watches the show,
what you're hearing about Max is actually
(04:29):
absolutely correct. Maxine deserved better.
I just, I don't. I was thinking, I was
watching this the whole time, and I was just like,
thinking to myself, what did she do something
to piss off the writers?
Because out of nowhere,
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like, like she's, quote unquote,
Jenny's best friend. And for the two seasons,
and arguably throughout this, this season,
you see that. You see, like, her undying.
And boy, was Ginny just,
like, basically told her, we're not that close
anymore. It's like, okay, I'm
confused. I. I just. I
(05:13):
think a lot of viewers are leaving this season like
a team Jenny. And
spoiler alert, it's Joe's baby. Okay?
I don't want to hear any of this nonsense about it
being the mayor's baby, okay? It's Joe's
baby. And if they don't do that, then
they want to stretch out the series.
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We know Joe's end game, so whatever.
Anyway, so we've been doing that. But on top of this, on top
of all this, Will, like, I. I'm telling
you, I'm going through binges right now.
>> Will (05:49):
I, hear it sounds like it.
>> Sarah (05:50):
Yeah.
>> Will (05:51):
I have nothing. Yeah.
>> Sarah (05:53):
I finally have found this
seer, a very decent. And
I'm knocking on wood because I don't want to jinx it. K
Drama, called An Unknown
or Our Unknown Soul on
Netflix. And I
like it because it is
basically two twin girls,
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women. I mean, they're in their 20s, their
later 20s, so they're women,
the identical, identical twins,
basically played by the same matrix. I mean,
they switch places because, because
both of them have their own different
struggles and it's just following this
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year of them switching, having swapped places
and places for, reasons
and, and then it flashes back to their childhood
because there's some drama back then. And so I
just, I'm really enjoying
the, the
parallels between past and present. And
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also the actress is doing a pretty good job
because I
can tell who is who. I
mean, I know who switched places, of course,
but in the past it's
harder because they haven't swapped places, but
I can tell who is who
based off of little nuances. And it's not played by
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the same actress, thank God they didn't do
that. it's played by a different
actress. And. And
yet I, I do feel like
both present and past, the actresses do
a good job about subtle
nuances between these two
twins because the characters themselves are
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different. So it's, it's really
interesting. And, and there are a few
characters who can tell them apart and then there's a
few characters who can't. So it's, Yeah,
I, I don't know. I really like it. And then on top
of that, I'm taking my time with that one.
>> Will (07:59):
Okay.
>> Sarah (07:59):
But, I'm. I have it on my back burner because I
keep hearing about it and from what I've seen, it looks really
good. But I'm going to definitely be
checking out, Good Boy, which is another K
drama, but it's on Amazon prime starring
Park Bo Gum who.
And, and so. And I'm looking forward to that because
(08:20):
it's. From what I understand, it's
about some ex athletes
who somewhat
find themselves in the police
and it's just like they're dealing with this
not good enough type mentality.
(08:40):
I don't know. But
I, Like I said, I've yet to watch a single minute of it. I've only
seen a few, few different things that has me
like put it on the list. And hey, for all I know
it could be a no go after the first
episode because we all know how many times that
happens to me specifically with K
dramas. So.
>> Will (09:01):
Yep.
>> Sarah (09:02):
so yeah, I've just been going through a lot of
binges about like, I felt
like arguably it was a
slow start of the year.
>> Will (09:13):
Yeah.
>> Sarah (09:14):
And June, I wasn't expecting this much
content, but. But
I just like one thing after another after
another, so.
>> Will (09:23):
That's awesome. Yeah. Yeah, I know, I know you
haven't I know we haven't had. We haven't done the what are we watching
Segment in a while. Because. Yeah, you're right. I mean, you. You.
You really early. You know, we had a
regular rotation, but nothing really was striking your
fancy as far as, the checkout. But now it sounds
like, Sounds like you have like, gotten several.
(09:44):
Finished several things and got. Got a couple things in the
queue that, that will carry you forward for. For
the rest of the month and then some.
>> Sarah (09:52):
Or. Or I will just. Now that I've spoken it out into
the universe, it. I will just, like, put it off.
do I. Do I want to? So, I
mean, because I could have. I could have started Good Boy this
weekend. I could have continued on. Like,
(10:14):
I'm behind technically with Unknown Soul, but
there's something about the difference
between starting a new show.
>> Will (10:22):
Yeah.
>> Sarah (10:22):
And then going on, like, with
Jenny and Georgia. I. I'm in season three,
so I'm like, I know what I'm gonna get,
and. And I can play it on the background. Like, I know how
I am. Like, I know it's gonna be a binge.
It's gonna be plain. I'm gonna be able to do other things.
>> Will (10:41):
Yeah.
>> Sarah (10:42):
Me dramas. That's one. Also. Also another thing. Because I
don't speak the language, I have to be paying
attention.
It's very hard.
>> Will (10:52):
Yeah. There is that little thing. Yeah. Subtitles.
>> Sarah (10:55):
Yeah. Yeah. And then it's like, o.
Do the, The, the.
The dubbed. And it's like, no, no, no,
I can't do that.
>> Will (11:05):
I can't do that. No, no, I can't.
No, it just. It just messes it up. I remember I was watching
Lupin and, And I think maybe to see
the first season and. And I was
like, put on. I put on the dub version
and then I was like, oh, hell no. Let's go back to the French. I mean, yeah,
because it's just. And it seemed like, speaking of benches,
(11:27):
finally. We finally got back to. Because
of the studio. I went back and started watching, as I
mentioned it last week, called my agent, the,
French, drama. It's also on Netflix and
has spun off. And so I started watching,
again this past weekend and just like, you know, this is such a good.
This is such a good show. And but to your point,
(11:48):
speaking of languages and stuff, I was like, oh, yeah, but I always just watch it in the
original French and just have the subtitles.
>> Sarah (11:53):
Yeah. Yeah. the only
show I've ever watched with
dubbed Happened last year
when I randomly, on Amazon, put on
Maxton hall, because I kept hearing about it,
but I didn't know it was foreign language.
So for whatever reason,
(12:14):
completely by accident, my Amazon prime knew
I didn't speak German, or. I'm sorry. I'm sorry if
it's Dutch. I'm not. I'm technically. Not really sure.
I'm pretty sure German, but I could be wrong.
so. Or watch. It's probably some other. It's.
It's definitely. It's definitely not English
and it's not British, but it is over there
(12:35):
in Europe. Okay. Yeah, okay. But
I. For. For whatever reason,
like, I didn't know it was foreign language. So I'm
watching the first episode and I'm hearing these
voices, and I'm like, every now and then I'll be like,
is this. Like, did they screw
up?
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Like, I don't.
>> Will (12:57):
I don't understand. It's my stream. It's my. Is my
Internet like, the stream, like, dragging?
>> Sarah (13:03):
Exactly. So here's the funny thing.
As soon as I figured it out, I then
turned on subtitles. I think I might
have lasted one episode, maybe not even an
episode. And then I switched it back to dub. Because
here's. Here's my logic. The.
The storyline of Maxton hall, it's.
(13:25):
It's Team Soap. I don't need to be paying
attention.
So I. As much as it, like, is
bothersome, I'm not going to be paying ATT through
most of it anyway. So having
hearing the like, like. And by the
by, midway through, I got used to it. Like,
(13:45):
clearly, I was just like, oh, I've gone through one
episode. Might as well go through this. through the whole thing.
it. It's similar to what I'm finding
when you hear a song in a
language. Right. okay. In a different
language now. And then you hear
that. That song, that same song. There's the
(14:07):
English version or whatever language is
your first language. Right.
>> Will (14:12):
Right.
>> Sarah (14:13):
Now, what I'm
finding is that
my preference, and a lot of people have said
this online, is that whatever language you
hear the song in first, that
is the language, that is the version
that is always the true version of the
song. And anything else, it just doesn't
(14:36):
sound right. Yeah, it's so
interesting. It's so interesting.
>> Will (14:42):
It. It really is. It really. It really is. I. You know, just
to show my genic sensibilities here,
it's like, 99 lift balloons. When I heard the German version, the original, I
was like, yeah. And then I heard the Heard the,
the mtv, dub version. I was like, nah,
nah, gotta, gotta have the original.
>> Sarah (15:00):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like,
like I, I hear a Korean
version of a song. But
what they don't tell you is a lot of K pop artists
also do Japanese songs.
Oh, original Japanese songs.
And then people, because it's all about the money,
then later they'll do the Korean version.
(15:23):
If I hear the Japanese version
first, that is the correct version.
Regardless of the Korean version. It
always sounds different. And there are actually
my preferred version. And then
sometimes lately we
get the Korean version,
(15:44):
the Japanese version. Oh, and the English version.
I hardly ever listen to the English versions of
these songs unless like,
that is the initial version, like 17's
Darling. I, I'm pretty sure they, they.
I don't think they've ever released that as a Korean version
though. Pretty sure. But it's, it's
(16:05):
just. And then I, I saw on Tick Tock other
people who listen to that kind of music
have also said the same thing, that they never realized
it. But it always goes back to like that
first version you hear
because the words are different suddenly and you're
like, you're probably saying the same thing in a different
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language. It just doesn't flow the same. It doesn't flow.
>> Will (16:29):
Yeah, it's just. Yeah, it's just. Yeah, it just. Yeah. it really
doesn't flow. It's like, yeah, it's the original cut of
anything and then. Or like, or even
like, it's like when someone just. Even in
the same language. But this covers a song
and, and yeah, and the COVID just,
just never like, just never captures that
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essence of the, of the original. I mean.
>> Sarah (16:52):
Yeah.
>> Will (16:52):
Ah, it's just. I totally get what you're saying.
>> Sarah (16:54):
Yeah. I mean, and it's ironic considering
we're about to talk about the studio and
we get into that whole idea of original and
art and everything. But
to start like the second episode, the oner
where the filming of an intricate sun
sunset shot becomes complicated by Matt's set
(17:15):
visit.
I kept thinking I was
looking forward to this episode.
>> Will (17:23):
Yeah.
>> Sarah (17:23):
And then it started. It's a good
episode. Don't get me wrong. Don't get me wrong,
but it's really hard for me
to watch one, one shot and not
immediately go to adolescence.
>> Will (17:39):
You know what? I put that in my notes. I totally did the
same. I felt the same thing.
>> Sarah (17:44):
It, it's just, it's like, it's like you're, you're
watching it and you're like, this is good.
If it had come out before adolescence,
I probably would be responding to it a lot
differently. But when you see
the ad, the workmanship, and not that they did
anything bad, it's just that you
you're starting to understand with this show, like
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there's going to be a concept and then
they're going to like really
bring that concept to life. So the fact that this is
called the One or because Matt's obsessed with wanting
to watch this one shot occur for
a movie they're working on and
it's all shot. The irony is that it's all
(18:28):
shot in one take, which, which is
clever. And then especially towards the end when you
start, when the, when the interruptions
really start to escalate between him
interrupting the scene by, by wanting
to talk to Greta, to them finding
out that the car was parked in the wrong
spot. Which was a great callback because I had forgotten about
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that by the time we got there. But at the
same time I'm just like, I, can't
because I don't
know if I'll ever look at a one again and
not compare it to adolescence.
>> Will (19:06):
Yeah. So I, I, I, I thought, like I said
as I thought about adolescence and and I think there was a
couple, maybe it was some other things
that we've talked recently where there's been like the one
shot. But you're right, I mean it definitely
for the, the, the comet. The comedy of
errors and, and Matt just
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wanting to, you know, to be there for it and
then, and all, and also like all the other
things around him
showing up as far as like the, you know,
the publicity as far as you and, and,
and everything you with
the, you know, with the car. I mean like as soon as the car, like since
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they got like parked there and then when the show ended, the
episode ended, I was like, they're not going to be able to fit. That's
going to be, that's going to be the, the, the, the
crescendo of all the fuck
ups. Because they parked the car right there
because they were already running late and, and,
and just, you know, just from the, from, to get. Everything
was just like just
(20:10):
messing up. Yeah.
>> Sarah (20:11):
Well, what was the best up
out of all of them in this episode?
>> Will (20:17):
Oh God. Oh.
Man. So the car is definitely one of my tops.
>> Sarah (20:25):
Really? Even though you had, but, but
>> Will (20:28):
It'S still the execution of it. This worked beautifully.
It was the execution. Yeah.
>> Sarah (20:33):
Got it.
>> Will (20:34):
Because, yeah, because you know, you had all these, you know, because of course
you had, you Know you have Matt. I will say I did like
the one where he, like, you know, crashed and like, busted his
face.
>> Sarah (20:44):
Yeah.
>> Will (20:45):
Yeah.
>> Sarah (20:45):
What I Like what I liked about that
one was that. Was that I,
as an audience member
was like, they did a really good job with that one.
When he comes out of the bathroom or wherever they were
talking and. And. Or
wherever he was talking with Sal and immediately
sees Greta. And I'm, as an audience member still
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like, okay, everything's fine. And then so it catches me off
guard too when they're like. He just
interrupted like, That. That execution, I thought.
Because a lot of the other stuff
did seem a bit like. Especially with the, Not
the cigarette, but the blonde. I was just like,
see where that's going?
>> Will (21:28):
Yeah. I just love that he was just trying to get. You know, he just kept trying
to give Sarah the note, you know, about the blunt.
And then. And then also like early on in
the episode, whenever he. Whenever
they were, trying to set up the,
The, Others. The. His executive
studio, his own special, like, thing. Get her. Get
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her. Get him away from her so she can just focus on the shot.
Because I mean, the thing about. About the. The
winner here too was they only. Basically
whenever. As soon as she. And when
Sarah, Poli and the director of photography
started talking about they only have enough light for, you know,
for a couple shots, I was like, oh, boy. Except
as I was like.
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I was like, the shots gonna get messed up somehow some
way. They're not gonna. They're gonna run out of light. And it's just like. It just kind of
just spiral. Spiral from there because it was just.
But whenever. But the other. The other one too
was whenever he was. You know, whenever he was with. Trying to
whisper and. And she. And. And
Greta could hear. Hear the whispering and stuff, and it
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took her out of the scene. I mean,
it was just so many things about why. And. And I've,
got the little still up here like Catherine o' Hara. Like, you.
You know, Patty looking at. Looking at Matt like, you schmuck. I
mean, just. Just. Just. Just get. Just go
already, because you're just messing everything up. But he just. You know,
he was just so, like. Whenever
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Sarah, like, told. You know, agreed with him about
the blunt, and then Greta also agreed with it. You know,
it was just like, oh, he's like, I'm. I'm. I'm helpful here. And it,
Just like. It was just encouraging him to like, just.
Just be just a pest there and just. It just messed
everything up. But.
>> Sarah (23:11):
The whispering one I thought was the weakest
out of all of them. that and the blunt,
arguably, for everything that you just said about
that, because those were the most
foreshadowed. But looking back on it now,
it's a good, It's a good episode to follow out
the pilot and to also then be
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followed up by the note, because what
we're seeing is
between the oner and the note is,
more. They delve more into his ego
and. And you would think coming off of the pilot,
like, he doesn't have that big of an ego or anything
(23:52):
because he seems like, oh, I just want to make really
good movies. But
with the note, he.
He, He finds himself in this position where
he has to do his job well.
He has to do his one job, which
is, to be honest, to a filmmaker. And in
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this case, it was Ron Howard about,
About a movie that, went on way
too long and had this extra. This
extra. What was it, like an extra
30 minutes for 40 minutes?
>> Will (24:27):
Yeah, it was. Yeah. I mean, I loved. Yeah, I
love. That was so great because it's like
one last thing about the. The one or two, which, you know,
which. How meta this show is.
it, You know, so Sarah Poly, she. She,
you know, she directed Women Talking. And it was. No, she was a
writer of Women Talking, if I recall. But this. But she
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also was an actor and. But you
know how, like, the thing that I really appreciate about this
show is like, all the things that go into the relationships of Hollywood.
and, and. And so in real life, this was like
her first acting gig in like 17 years. She did it as a
favor to Seth Rogen because they're, you know, they're good friends and stuff.
And, and that's another thing that I think this, that the show
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has like, also the.
Really gets into some of the. The. The. The. The
relationships that people have, whether it's good, bad or
in between, and it really, you know, comes to a head. You know, we see
that also with, with the note, as far
as, just, you know, how
good or bad experience can.
(25:30):
Can like basically like color. Color,
your, Your professional, outlook on things
like, and how hard it was for Matt to give Ron Howard this
note.
>> Sarah (25:43):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
>> Will (25:45):
Yeah,
yeah.
>> Sarah (25:48):
I mean.
>> Will (25:49):
Yeah, yeah.
>> Sarah (25:51):
Oh, no, you go ahead.
>> Will (25:52):
No, no, but I was just. Yeah, because I mean, the thing about the
note in particular, so, you know, because.
And I guess Matt was just so
worried about ruining the relationship with
Matt with, with Ron Howard because he, he
thinks Back to like whenever a
beautiful m. He was, he was a lowly PA
(26:12):
or. And he was like first
giving his thoughts at a screening about about
A Beautiful Mind and he was like wanting to give the, the,
the, the this, you know, suggestion about
Will Polk Bettany's character. Right, right. Yeah,
yeah. Imaginary. Yeah, yeah.
Oh, go ahead.
>> Sarah (26:33):
Oh yeah, it's so, so, yeah, so he,
he gave a note as a young PA to Ron
Howard. And the reaction to that
of Ron Howard cursing him out
prevents him from in his, present
day wanting to give a similar
note, albeit the correct
note ironically, to Ron
(26:56):
Howard about this specific new
movie that he's working on. but again,
like I was saying before, it's all about his ego
because he.
>> Will (27:06):
Okay, yeah, go ahead, go ahead,
finish your thought. I had a thoughts about the ego too.
>> Sarah (27:14):
Okay, well now I'm curious about what your thoughts because
I, I thought I'd started, but I'm confused.
>> Will (27:19):
Yeah, so what I was just going to say. I don't know if it's so
much ego. For me it's, it is a bit of ego, but it's also
a lot of insecurity.
>> Sarah (27:27):
Right? Yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah. Insecurity, ego.
he, he. Yeah, yeah.
So, so why do you. I guess. Well,
are we gonna debate about that? I don't know. yeah,
well, he has an ego.
>> Will (27:46):
Because like, you know, it's, it's like, like for example,
going back to the, the suggestion with the, with the
blunt and the oner. I mean, you know, whenever.
>> Sarah (27:57):
He'S, he has, ah, he's a bit
naive, I guess. Yeah, so.
Yeah, yeah,
but because he thinks he's doing the right
thing.
Like, like the irony between this
episode, the note and the oner is
(28:18):
that he was doing all the wrong
things unknowingly. Like,
like I, I feel like with this episode
it's more about ego. Like.
Yeah, it's insecurity. But he
doesn't, you have to remember, he doesn't think
that Ron Howard remembers it.
>> Will (28:38):
Right.
>> Sarah (28:39):
He, he honestly. And they set that up
perfectly where he honestly feels like
because everyone else is telling him that, oh, Ron
Howard likes you. Oh, this. And he himself
feels like, oh, I'm in this good spot. I don't have to go
back there. Unfortunately though,
I have to give him this note and I don't want
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to because this guy likes me
and I don't want him to then
like. And obviously it
does like to then remember
what I said before because in the past
it was the wrong note in the present.
It's the right note. So, like,
(29:20):
the. The. The. Yeah, it's an
insecurity because he. He.
Well, I don't know. I don't know if he really
thinks that it was the
wrong note to. To give at the,
In this episode, like when he was,
younger. There's too many notes.
>> Will (29:43):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well,
I think it was. I mean, well, what I
say, Because he's trying
to. And it goes back to like the pilot with. With.
With. With the studio president,
the owner. I mean, you know, he's not, you know,
he's trying, you know, he's. He's wanting to, like,
(30:04):
have a blockbuster, you know, and.
And so. And he's, you know, and he's fresh in the job.
All the stuff that happened with Patty, you know, as far as how,
you know, how she got, ceremoniously fired.
And. And so, you know, he's not really, you know, he's.
He's very insecure in his position as
studio head. And, you know, and. And so. And I love
(30:24):
the way they, like, set up. Set up this.
The. The episode because, you know, they go into. There. They're
going into screener, and, you, know, they had
that. That great moment. You know, Antony Mackie, you
got, you know, you know, Franco and.
And they're like, oh, yeah, yeah. And then, you know, and then, like
you said, it's just like it goes into the
(30:44):
ending that never ends. Like, we've. Which again,
is just a great reference on, like, run times and.
And. And you know how movies just. Just don't end
these days. So, you know, and then he.
So whenever it was time to give the note,
like, he. You, know, he was like. You said he was
cute. He was still thinking about the, you know,
(31:05):
the chewing out he got by Ron before
trying to, like, get everybody else to, like, you know, to do the
dirty work for him. But, you know, but at the end of the
day, you know, it was the right call. And even. Even, like, it's funny
when Antony Mackey even came into the room and he was just like
this. This thing sucks. I mean, everybody is in
agreement, but at the end of the day, they were so afraid of
(31:26):
pissing off the filmmaker.
because like you said, I mean, it was just set, you know,
because.
>> Sarah (31:34):
Because. Yeah,
yeah, yeah. Like, there. There. There's
always an insecurity that's
overcompensated by an ego.
>> Will (31:44):
Yeah.
>> Sarah (31:45):
And that power struggle within
Hollywood and all of these different players
of this Game
for Matt. It's interesting that you brought up in the pilot him
being insecure in his job because
there's the other side of that pilot and the other version
of Matt where Matt, like, went, got the meeting
(32:06):
with Scorsese,
managed to get. Try to get on track
the movie he wanted to get. Like, I don't
know if it's insecure. Like, yes, it's
there. There's aspects of insecurity. But
I. I think what they're doing with this
character and this person, with
(32:28):
this character is that
a balance of him being a
very naive. I want to be the one
who determines what films to make.
And then having all of these different.
Whether it be the, The real.
Arguably the real head of the studio
(32:51):
telling him what movies he will
choose to make. or
them. M. Or Maya saying, I can't market this.
You gotta come up with something better. or Sal
being like, you gotta think more in
this lane. or Patty
basically kind of mentoring, but
also just telling him he's a. Every
(33:13):
five seconds. Like, there's all of these
other forces that I think are
building more of the insecurity. Because you also
don't go from being a PA
all the way to the head of a studio without
developing an ego. I mean, that when he
tells, When he comes up with this idea,
(33:34):
like, oh, we, Yeah, I
purchased that script for 5 million or
$10 million because A, he could.
And B, then he masked it with
this lie. Like, I. I think there is
a lot of ego. And I think that that's
why it was a good
(33:55):
scene when, quote, unquote,
the real Ron Howard shows up and
realizes what's going on. And then you get this.
These two forces coming together,
clashing in that way. And. And
you can see Matt. I. I like
the. I like how the, The. The
(34:15):
whole sequence that. That is being
discussed in this entire episode
is, kind of an
homage to. By the end of this episode
with Matt being like, oh, well, I really
lost that one. But he didn't because
Ron eventually takes the sequence out of the
movie, and then threatens Matt
(34:37):
and says, if you ever do this to me again, I will destroy
you. No, take it,
take it. And then. And then we even
get more ego, occurring with the
missing real as. And we,
Another director, Olivia Wild,
Who. Speaking. Steals are real. Did
(34:58):
you figure out that it was Olivia
before or. At what point did he figure out that it was
Olivia?
>> Will (35:05):
about halfway through. I think I figured
it out. Because,
it was just. I think. Yeah, it was. And
whenever, they. Zach Efron, you know, I
couldn't help but, like, think of, hello, darling.
and also when they were like, you know, given all the. She went full
Fincher whenever they were talking with the, the guy who
(35:25):
earlier about the can. As far as the whole perfectionist
note in the scene and her,
you know, just getting, you know, getting
that her, you know, she did the cameo and it was just excellent.
So, yeah, so I started piecing it together, but I think it was just
a. You know, the cool thing about this
show is whenever they do, like, you
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know, set things up, you know, each.
Each episode, this is like. Like in
this one, it was like, playing off the whole, you know, film noir,
you know, detective story kind of thing. you know,
Matt was kind of like. Was stepping in as, like, Bogey, you
know, Humphrey Bogart or something like that. So I.
I just really like the way they. They sort of set this.
(36:08):
Just, you know, set things up,
organically. not only from the story
standpoint, but also from the sets and the.
The wardrobe. I mean, thinking back to, you know, the oner.
you know, just that trying to, like, dress down and ended up
looking like, you know, just like, you know, just a studio hand. And they didn't even
realize he was. Because he got rid of his suit. there
(36:29):
little. Little things like that are just like, the little details that I really
appreciate about this show.
>> Sarah (36:36):
Yeah, I.
I go back and forth on it. M.
Sometimes it comes off as a bit gimmicky to me.
and I don't know why, but it doesn't
play as original. I do
like how they normalize.
like the idea that, like, you have this
(36:59):
sequence in this episode called the Missing Reel,
where, they cut to Matt
in a trench coat and it's voiceover.
And then about 10 seconds later, Sal calls
him over and he. He
says something like, why are you talking to that
voice recorder? And it's like my therapist says, whenever
(37:19):
I'm going through spinning now, I have to, like,
journal. so. So, like,
I can appreciate when they do things like
that. but sometimes once I
figure out what the. What the
gimmick is, then I'm just, like, looking for
it and it becomes less. Less
(37:40):
obvious. That's why I appreciate with the note
how there really wasn't that much
of a gimmick. And it felt more
like something a studio
would experience on a. On a
regular basis. feedback, whether
it's to A director or. Or. And it's not
like, also, I just want to go back to it and
(38:02):
say, like, arguably. So they
didn't just choose a new director. They. It was about
giving a. A note to a director
who's so well known as Ron Howard.
Yeah, it would. It would be
like if we actually saw them make the Jamestown
movie and he had to give a note up to Martin
(38:22):
Scorsese. I mean, come on. Like,
so. So I. I think that.
That overall, is what I find
so fun about this show is
the cameos and the.
The. They're not. They're not trying to
make this. No, this is clearly Hollywood, and
(38:44):
Seth Rogen has so many friends and that
he's getting all of these cameos. And
the other thing, that
in watching these three episodes
following last week with the pilot is.
I am surprised, pleasantly surprised,
that there has been no mention
(39:05):
of Kool Aid in these three episodes.
>> Will (39:08):
That's right.
>> Sarah (39:10):
So. Because from the pilot,
you think to yourself, oh, that's gonna be
like, maybe the first half. Half of this season or
something. But no, we. They, like,
they. They're doing a good job. Like, that was the premise.
And I'm sure we'll get there. I'm sure we'll circle
back around to that. But.
(39:30):
But they have plenty of other projects
in the works at various states of being
filmed and everything, so I,
I really think that, that that was a
good choice as well, which leads the,
like, this is still the first season, so
it's. You're still creating this world
(39:50):
in this dynamic.
now. Now for the big reveal. Did I laugh
at any point? No. I don't know what it
is with me in this show. I'm. For some reason,
I like the humor, but I'm not laughing,
if I'm being honest. I don't know why.
>> Will (40:07):
Maybe. Do you need a. Do you need a laugh track? I mean, I
definitely find myself laughing out loud with this,
show. You know, obviously, like, whenever. With.
When Opie. Opie,
like, taunted Matt. I mean, it was just like,
damn, Opie. Opie's. Opie's an.
But, But, yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's. I.
(40:30):
There's. There's definitely. You
know, I think it's. For me, it's just really working
as a satire because I guess, you know, we. We both, like,
watch a lot of. You know, we. We
obviously watch a lot of tv, movies and stuff. What. You know, we
both listen, the various podcasts
about entertainment. Entertainment industry and stuff. So I think
(40:51):
for me, it's just, it's just, I think that's why it's just like
working because it's like all the stuff that like you,
you, you, you see like play out on social
media or in these discussions
that you know, whenever, you know, if we're watching like
Rocha and you know, Jeff Snyder, I'm talking a hot mic or some of those
kind of things like that it to me is, I think that's
(41:11):
why it's just, it's a satire is just working so, so well
for me.
>> Sarah (41:15):
Yeah.
>> Will (41:16):
and I have those kind of. But I do have those laugh out loud moments.
you know, not saying like I'm like chuckle fest like all 30 or
40 minutes throughout the episode but whenever,
whatever the moments do, whatever they, whenever they hit for me, they,
they, they, they hit.
>> Sarah (41:30):
Yeah.
>> Will (41:30):
I'm just saying that they don't hit for you. Like you said. Maybe it's not, you
know, it's just, you know, it's just how we just express ourselves.
I mean because you just said it, you do find, you do find it
humorous. It's just.
>> Sarah (41:40):
Yeah, yeah, I just for
whatever reason, it's like the fact that we all know
you've probably cried at more movies than I have.
>> Will (41:48):
Yeah, yeah. I'm just more of a. Yeah, I just wear
my emotions on my sleeve.
>> Sarah (41:52):
Yeah, yeah, you're much more,
you're much more easy to cry and
laugh and me, I'm much more stubborn and it's
like you're gonn. Okay, you
don't get this for cheap. But
it's just something that I
put out there because a, we
(42:13):
don't cover comedies as much as we
cover other like dramas and
especially genre science fiction and all
of that kind of fantasy as well.
So. And, and arguably I
think, I think comedy
is so much harder just
(42:34):
because we, we all, a lot of like, we
all grew up with the sitcoms, the 30
minute sitcoms and that is not what this
show is.
It's definitely not. However, there
is like a very, there is a familiar
kind of almost officey,
(42:54):
feel about it, where,
where I'm glad they didn't go full documentary
but it is a workplace comedy
and so they,
there is that somewhat familiarity there
but also much more modern and
current and as you said, satire
(43:15):
about it that brings it all in.
And so it, it's just,
it's. And, and I would say
like we talk about the bear, which the bear is
coming back in just a few weeks and we will get to
season four eventually.
and I. The bear,
(43:38):
which I always make fun of Golden Globes because
I'm like, it's a dark
comedy, but I'm like, it's not a comedy.
It's not. It really? Because, yeah,
cousin is funny, and. And there are a few
other characters, like, funny doesn't mean
comedy. I think the studio is more of
a comedy than bears.
>> Will (44:00):
Oh, yeah, totally. Totally.
>> Sarah (44:01):
Yeah. Yeah, it definitely is.
>> Will (44:04):
Yeah. I mean, what if for. For next
cycle of the Emmys. I mean, this. This show is definitely going
to be, Will
be in the comedy category correctly,
and m. You know, and maybe give, Oh, gosh,
Justin. What? The show with Gene Smart.
yeah. Hex. Yeah. yeah, you know,
(44:26):
this. This will give. Probably get. Finally give Hacks a run for the money.
>> Sarah (44:29):
Well, I mean, hacks just had it easy.
Hacks hasn't been on air for that long. It's already.
It's. What. How many seasons is Hackson?
>> Will (44:37):
I think it's second. Third.
>> Sarah (44:39):
I think it's third.
>> Will (44:41):
Yeah.
>> Sarah (44:42):
Which it. It only won last year because
the bear was out of running because it had a horrible third season.
Yeah, yeah, so. So
the. Because it's. It's really the bear that has been
sweeping them for the last, like, two years
in that category. So. So.
>> Will (45:02):
Yeah, yeah, true. Yeah. I was gonna say that
Abbott elementary is another one.
>> Sarah (45:06):
Yes. Yeah, Abbott. Abbott elementary
is definitely up there.
so. Which I'm glad. I think,
over saturation, we talk about a lot and.
Which I'm sure the studio is going to reference at some
point,
especially in a genre of film and
(45:28):
TV that we love to talk about, so
I.
>> Will (45:32):
Can'T wait for that one.
>> Sarah (45:33):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. And
then Antony Starr shows up. That would be great,
because, you know, I think there really needs
to be a boys cameo. Like, not a
full boys cameo, but just
because of the satire of it all.
>> Will (45:52):
Yeah, Maybe. Maybe season two. Maybe either
Antony Starr or, Or
Eric Kripke or, Or
even get, you know, Carl Urban, you
know, just show up.
>> Sarah (46:06):
Right? Yeah. Yeah.
>> Will (46:07):
Those would be the three I would like to see.
>> Sarah (46:09):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
>> Will (46:11):
So Jack Clear would be too. Too easy, too
obvious.
>> Sarah (46:15):
Yeah. So that. Well, they're probably gonna do it.
>> Will (46:18):
Yeah, yeah. I mean, the show has been renewed for a second
season, so.
>> Sarah (46:21):
Yeah. Yeah. So it's. Whether it
wins big awards or not, it's
definitely gonna get a second season.
yeah, but. But yeah, and
we will just next week, continue with the next
three episodes wherever they may take us.
And, Because you wanted to move the news to the
(46:42):
Bottom. you have a last
of us season three update.
>> Will (46:47):
Yeah, just a. Just a real quick one as we, As we
wrap up here, with news. So,
as we. The
last of us, the. The showrunners, and,
Bella were at a FYC event. Since
we're. Since we were just talking. Talking Emmys and
whatnot. And, So, did give us a
(47:08):
little, update on possible third season.
they did confirm that it will be. Will be
Abby's season.
>> Sarah (47:17):
yeah.
>> Will (47:17):
And. Yeah. and, you know, I think Neil
Druckmann just basically said this past season was very hot.
This. And this one, he said it's going to be like a wetter
season. So I don't know what he meant by that, but I guess, you
know, obviously it'll be telling the story from. From. From
Abby's perspective. and he's like, you
know, he's like. It's a more a quote. It's more of a drink
of water season than a fire season.
(47:40):
Mazen backed him up. I'm reading from an article from Vulture.
It's a wetter season than a hotter season, and anyone who plays video
games knows water levels are a pain in the butt. So
I, haven't played the game, but we'll see.
yeah, I'm trying to see if there's any other. Other notes. I
mean, basically. Oh, they. Seems like the script hasn't
been finished yet, from the fyc, from the. From the
(48:02):
interview that I've written here.
but, So, yeah, it's going to be a while before. Before we get to
it, but as
we suspected. So. But yeah, that. That just.
That was just a little thing I just happened to see today. it
was, mentioned. Mentioned
at their fyc,
(48:23):
presentation as they are, you know, getting ramping
up for Emmy, nomination season.
>> Sarah (48:30):
Yeah. Pedro's gonna get nominated.
Oh, probably. Probably. The show will probably get nominated.
I don't think it'll win. It was so controversial this
season. nor do I necessarily think
it should win. but
Pedro will probably win if.
Depending on, like, what the competition is.
>> Will (48:51):
Yeah.
>> Sarah (48:52):
but I. I expect him to be nominated
and potentially. Potentially win.
yeah, Mao, that was a massive, like,
big giveaway. had no idea that it would be
Abby season.
>> Will (49:05):
Like, well, shocking for.
Shocking. Not shocking for folks who have played the game,
but for folks who are. Who. Who
never have played the game.
>> Sarah (49:16):
No, you can't. You can't say that because,
you know. You know that if you haven't Played the game and
you've watched this show and you're obsessed with this show
or even if this season you have
talked to people like Will, you
yourself spoiled yourself with some stuff.
I. I just, I'm like no, no, no.
(49:38):
I. By the end of that anybody. Regardless, it was.
It's pretty much you have to be
very low intellect to not
realize what.
>> Will (49:48):
Yeah, true, true. But, but
the main reason why I brought it up when I saw the article
today, I, I really brought it up because I just have. I
thought back to our conversation about the show a few weeks ago
and.
>> Sarah (50:01):
And will hate season two.
>> Will (50:04):
Yeah, it's. It's. Well, I was
thinking more to the point how
I, I really. Your,
your, your call I think was going to be correct where that ah,
they should have done Abby Story Season 2 and then.
Yeah, and that's why I brought that up today because I was
just like. When I saw that I was like. I just, I just wanted, I
(50:26):
just wanted to get it on the record just like
that. I, think you're right that
I said it maybe I m even may have said a couple weeks back,
but definitely just wanted to reiterate that
you're right. I think they, when they. When all is said and
done, we'll. Whenever we look back on this, on
the series, we'll say
(50:46):
that they made a misstep by not having Abby's story
first in season two.
>> Sarah (50:51):
Yeah, yeah. And. And
that. That's. I think that's
arguably regardless of how season
three even goes. But
I see why they did it. They just. For whatever reason
they made so many more creative choices in
season one that
(51:11):
for what. For some reason they stuck
way too much to the script in season two
and there was arguably not as much
creativity which led to kind
of a. And. And
arguably the first
game had less of
(51:32):
a controversial opinion. It's more
beloved than the second game. So you
would have thought they would have
made more creative choices with the second game
considering the feedback that the game players
had. M. So
I, I don't know. But then again
I, I mean at the end of the day
(51:55):
the creatives behind this show in this
game, like they are really.
I'm not saying they are stupid. They are very creative
and very talented people.
I just don't know why.
Why they didn't make sense some choices that they did.
And once you think about it
(52:16):
and realize how this could have
gone if they had just swapped the
perspectives
like, like it. Arguably
it. It could make a better story. But
we We shall see. We're still on board with
it. It's just.
>> Will (52:34):
Oh, yeah.
>> Sarah (52:34):
Oh, yeah, yeah. And who knows? His hiatus,
the fact that the third season hasn't even been fully
written. I'm like, what are you guys doing?
So much time to write seasons two and three.
>> Will (52:47):
Yeah. And Kate, Deborah's like, engaged. She's
filming Godzilla, a Godzilla movie right now. So, you
know, so it's gonna. Yeah. So again,
it'll be like, you know, 20, 30 by the time we get the third season.
>> Sarah (52:59):
Oh, no, no. That's when the next Spider man
across the universe or beyond the universe, we're gonna get. We're
gonna get season three of the Last of Us before that.
Trust me.
>> Will (53:08):
Yeah.
>> Sarah (53:11):
All right, well, on that note, Will, why don't you tell our listeners where they
can find you?
>> Will (53:15):
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Greetings
nerds. This is Scene N Nerd. I'm your host, Sarah Belmont, and with me, as
always, is our Mr. Producer, Will Polk How are you doing tonight,
Will?
>> Will (00:20):
Doing very well, Sarah How you doing this evening?
>> Sarah (00:22):
I'm doing good.
>> Will (00:24):
That's good.
>> Sarah (00:26):
Yeah. So.
>> Will (00:28):
Yeah. Yeah.
>> Sarah (00:31):
So I'm, like, going through
a, lot of TV show binges right now.
>> Will (00:36):
Oh, cool.
>> Sarah (00:38):
so I don't know if you've heard about this show. It's
not a Will show. It's definitely more my lane.
but on Amazon prime, there's a show, this new
show called, Motorheads.
>> Will (00:49):
No.
>> Sarah (00:51):
Yeah, it's with Ryan Philippe. He's like the notable
actor in it. and it's
kind of a. A teen.
It's. Yes, it is a teen drama.
and. But they, they. It's
about a town and some history, and
a lot of the adults of
(01:12):
these kids, are
wrapped up in a. Somewhat of a mystery
from when they were children. And so you
have. They. They do a good job, I have to
say, of the writers of paralleling the.
The present and like, that idea that history
repeats. and,
(01:33):
I kept, like, this has probably been out for a
month now, if not maybe three weeks. And
it. They released all of the episodes at once. It's 10
episodes, about an hour each episode. So it was.
It was fairly long. And. And I was good. I didn't
binge it. Oh. Like,
Like. Well, you know, I had some stuff come up
last week, so I didn't like straight binge, but
(01:55):
I did, get through it within a week.
because everyone kept saying the ending was
really good. And I'm gonna,
I'm gonna say this.
>> Will (02:09):
Should I put a spoiler alert warning up or.
>> Sarah (02:12):
I haven't decided yet. I haven't decided yet.
so I just. I
just. I. I did not see it coming. I did
laugh when it happened. it is a good ending,
but at the same time, I'm just like. That got
dark. That was
a bit excessive.
So I don't know. But.
(02:35):
But yeah, I, I can see why there was a lot of talk about
it, and I'm glad I wasn't spoiled or anything.
it was decent and I, I do hope it. I do
hope, and I think it will be getting a season two
for sure. especially since, Man,
I'm blanking on. The Summer I Turned Pretty
is wrapping up its series
(02:55):
this year. So Motorheads
will be like the Amazon's continued
teen drama. So,
like, as a replacement makes sense. and, I mean,
there are Plenty of female characters in that show,
too. It's not completely a male driven. I
mean, the. The leads are technically two
(03:15):
twins. Even though they look. They arguably
don't look alike. Bother me.
Like, you could get some.
>> Will (03:24):
So where is. Or are they supposed to be
identical twins or this?
>> Sarah (03:29):
I mean, once a boy, one's a girl. You can't get too identical with
that, of course. But I was
also just like, can we get like
some sim. Like, there should be some
features that are. Are similar.
And to me, I was just like,
but. But, I can tell
(03:50):
why they got casted in the sense.
So, so I did that and then,
unknowingly, because I was on the fence about
starting it at all. I, I
binged this weekend,
Ginny and Georgia, season three.
>> Will (04:08):
Okay.
>> Sarah (04:09):
And I think it was sometime last year
when I binged the first two seasons. I was late to this
show that the. The third
season is the best season so far.
and I,
I just want to say, if anybody watches the show,
what you're hearing about Max is actually
(04:29):
absolutely correct. Maxine deserved better.
I just, I don't. I was thinking, I was
watching this the whole time, and I was just like,
thinking to myself, what did she do something
to piss off the writers?
Because out of nowhere,
(04:50):
like, like she's, quote unquote,
Jenny's best friend. And for the two seasons,
and arguably throughout this, this season,
you see that. You see, like, her undying.
And boy, was Ginny just,
like, basically told her, we're not that close
anymore. It's like, okay, I'm
confused. I. I just. I
(05:13):
think a lot of viewers are leaving this season like
a team Jenny. And
spoiler alert, it's Joe's baby. Okay?
I don't want to hear any of this nonsense about it
being the mayor's baby, okay? It's Joe's
baby. And if they don't do that, then
they want to stretch out the series.
(05:38):
We know Joe's end game, so whatever.
Anyway, so we've been doing that. But on top of this, on top
of all this, Will, like, I. I'm telling
you, I'm going through binges right now.
>> Will (05:49):
I, hear it sounds like it.
>> Sarah (05:50):
Yeah.
>> Will (05:51):
I have nothing. Yeah.
>> Sarah (05:53):
I finally have found this
seer, a very decent. And
I'm knocking on wood because I don't want to jinx it. K
Drama, called An Unknown
or Our Unknown Soul on
Netflix. And I
like it because it is
basically two twin girls,
(06:15):
women. I mean, they're in their 20s, their
later 20s, so they're women,
the identical, identical twins,
basically played by the same matrix. I mean,
they switch places because, because
both of them have their own different
struggles and it's just following this
(06:36):
year of them switching, having swapped places
and places for, reasons
and, and then it flashes back to their childhood
because there's some drama back then. And so I
just, I'm really enjoying
the, the
parallels between past and present. And
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also the actress is doing a pretty good job
because I
can tell who is who. I
mean, I know who switched places, of course,
but in the past it's
harder because they haven't swapped places, but
I can tell who is who
based off of little nuances. And it's not played by
(07:19):
the same actress, thank God they didn't do
that. it's played by a different
actress. And. And
yet I, I do feel like
both present and past, the actresses do
a good job about subtle
nuances between these two
twins because the characters themselves are
(07:41):
different. So it's, it's really
interesting. And, and there are a few
characters who can tell them apart and then there's a
few characters who can't. So it's, Yeah,
I, I don't know. I really like it. And then on top
of that, I'm taking my time with that one.
>> Will (07:59):
Okay.
>> Sarah (07:59):
But, I'm. I have it on my back burner because I
keep hearing about it and from what I've seen, it looks really
good. But I'm going to definitely be
checking out, Good Boy, which is another K
drama, but it's on Amazon prime starring
Park Bo Gum who.
And, and so. And I'm looking forward to that because
(08:20):
it's. From what I understand, it's
about some ex athletes
who somewhat
find themselves in the police
and it's just like they're dealing with this
not good enough type mentality.
(08:40):
I don't know. But
I, Like I said, I've yet to watch a single minute of it. I've only
seen a few, few different things that has me
like put it on the list. And hey, for all I know
it could be a no go after the first
episode because we all know how many times that
happens to me specifically with K
dramas. So.
>> Will (09:01):
Yep.
>> Sarah (09:02):
so yeah, I've just been going through a lot of
binges about like, I felt
like arguably it was a
slow start of the year.
>> Will (09:13):
Yeah.
>> Sarah (09:14):
And June, I wasn't expecting this much
content, but. But
I just like one thing after another after
another, so.
>> Will (09:23):
That's awesome. Yeah. Yeah, I know, I know you
haven't I know we haven't had. We haven't done the what are we watching
Segment in a while. Because. Yeah, you're right. I mean, you. You.
You really early. You know, we had a
regular rotation, but nothing really was striking your
fancy as far as, the checkout. But now it sounds
like, Sounds like you have like, gotten several.
(09:44):
Finished several things and got. Got a couple things in the
queue that, that will carry you forward for. For
the rest of the month and then some.
>> Sarah (09:52):
Or. Or I will just. Now that I've spoken it out into
the universe, it. I will just, like, put it off.
do I. Do I want to? So, I
mean, because I could have. I could have started Good Boy this
weekend. I could have continued on. Like,
(10:14):
I'm behind technically with Unknown Soul, but
there's something about the difference
between starting a new show.
>> Will (10:22):
Yeah.
>> Sarah (10:22):
And then going on, like, with
Jenny and Georgia. I. I'm in season three,
so I'm like, I know what I'm gonna get,
and. And I can play it on the background. Like, I know how
I am. Like, I know it's gonna be a binge.
It's gonna be plain. I'm gonna be able to do other things.
>> Will (10:41):
Yeah.
>> Sarah (10:42):
Me dramas. That's one. Also. Also another thing. Because I
don't speak the language, I have to be paying
attention.
It's very hard.
>> Will (10:52):
Yeah. There is that little thing. Yeah. Subtitles.
>> Sarah (10:55):
Yeah. Yeah. And then it's like, o.
Do the, The, the.
The dubbed. And it's like, no, no, no,
I can't do that.
>> Will (11:05):
I can't do that. No, no, I can't.
No, it just. It just messes it up. I remember I was watching
Lupin and, And I think maybe to see
the first season and. And I was
like, put on. I put on the dub version
and then I was like, oh, hell no. Let's go back to the French. I mean, yeah,
because it's just. And it seemed like, speaking of benches,
(11:27):
finally. We finally got back to. Because
of the studio. I went back and started watching, as I
mentioned it last week, called my agent, the,
French, drama. It's also on Netflix and
has spun off. And so I started watching,
again this past weekend and just like, you know, this is such a good.
This is such a good show. And but to your point,
(11:48):
speaking of languages and stuff, I was like, oh, yeah, but I always just watch it in the
original French and just have the subtitles.
>> Sarah (11:53):
Yeah. Yeah. the only
show I've ever watched with
dubbed Happened last year
when I randomly, on Amazon, put on
Maxton hall, because I kept hearing about it,
but I didn't know it was foreign language.
So for whatever reason,
(12:14):
completely by accident, my Amazon prime knew
I didn't speak German, or. I'm sorry. I'm sorry if
it's Dutch. I'm not. I'm technically. Not really sure.
I'm pretty sure German, but I could be wrong.
so. Or watch. It's probably some other. It's.
It's definitely. It's definitely not English
and it's not British, but it is over there
(12:35):
in Europe. Okay. Yeah, okay. But
I. For. For whatever reason,
like, I didn't know it was foreign language. So I'm
watching the first episode and I'm hearing these
voices, and I'm like, every now and then I'll be like,
is this. Like, did they screw
up?
(12:56):
Like, I don't.
>> Will (12:57):
I don't understand. It's my stream. It's my. Is my
Internet like, the stream, like, dragging?
>> Sarah (13:03):
Exactly. So here's the funny thing.
As soon as I figured it out, I then
turned on subtitles. I think I might
have lasted one episode, maybe not even an
episode. And then I switched it back to dub. Because
here's. Here's my logic. The.
The storyline of Maxton hall, it's.
(13:25):
It's Team Soap. I don't need to be paying
attention.
So I. As much as it, like, is
bothersome, I'm not going to be paying ATT through
most of it anyway. So having
hearing the like, like. And by the
by, midway through, I got used to it. Like,
(13:45):
clearly, I was just like, oh, I've gone through one
episode. Might as well go through this. through the whole thing.
it. It's similar to what I'm finding
when you hear a song in a
language. Right. okay. In a different
language now. And then you hear
that. That song, that same song. There's the
(14:07):
English version or whatever language is
your first language. Right.
>> Will (14:12):
Right.
>> Sarah (14:13):
Now, what I'm
finding is that
my preference, and a lot of people have said
this online, is that whatever language you
hear the song in first, that
is the language, that is the version
that is always the true version of the
song. And anything else, it just doesn't
(14:36):
sound right. Yeah, it's so
interesting. It's so interesting.
>> Will (14:42):
It. It really is. It really. It really is. I. You know, just
to show my genic sensibilities here,
it's like, 99 lift balloons. When I heard the German version, the original, I
was like, yeah. And then I heard the Heard the,
the mtv, dub version. I was like, nah,
nah, gotta, gotta have the original.
>> Sarah (15:00):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like,
like I, I hear a Korean
version of a song. But
what they don't tell you is a lot of K pop artists
also do Japanese songs.
Oh, original Japanese songs.
And then people, because it's all about the money,
then later they'll do the Korean version.
(15:23):
If I hear the Japanese version
first, that is the correct version.
Regardless of the Korean version. It
always sounds different. And there are actually
my preferred version. And then
sometimes lately we
get the Korean version,
(15:44):
the Japanese version. Oh, and the English version.
I hardly ever listen to the English versions of
these songs unless like,
that is the initial version, like 17's
Darling. I, I'm pretty sure they, they.
I don't think they've ever released that as a Korean version
though. Pretty sure. But it's, it's
(16:05):
just. And then I, I saw on Tick Tock other
people who listen to that kind of music
have also said the same thing, that they never realized
it. But it always goes back to like that
first version you hear
because the words are different suddenly and you're
like, you're probably saying the same thing in a different
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language. It just doesn't flow the same. It doesn't flow.
>> Will (16:29):
Yeah, it's just. Yeah, it's just. Yeah, it just. Yeah. it really
doesn't flow. It's like, yeah, it's the original cut of
anything and then. Or like, or even
like, it's like when someone just. Even in
the same language. But this covers a song
and, and yeah, and the COVID just,
just never like, just never captures that
(16:50):
essence of the, of the original. I mean.
>> Sarah (16:52):
Yeah.
>> Will (16:52):
Ah, it's just. I totally get what you're saying.
>> Sarah (16:54):
Yeah. I mean, and it's ironic considering
we're about to talk about the studio and
we get into that whole idea of original and
art and everything. But
to start like the second episode, the oner
where the filming of an intricate sun
sunset shot becomes complicated by Matt's set
(17:15):
visit.
I kept thinking I was
looking forward to this episode.
>> Will (17:23):
Yeah.
>> Sarah (17:23):
And then it started. It's a good
episode. Don't get me wrong. Don't get me wrong,
but it's really hard for me
to watch one, one shot and not
immediately go to adolescence.
>> Will (17:39):
You know what? I put that in my notes. I totally did the
same. I felt the same thing.
>> Sarah (17:44):
It, it's just, it's like, it's like you're, you're
watching it and you're like, this is good.
If it had come out before adolescence,
I probably would be responding to it a lot
differently. But when you see
the ad, the workmanship, and not that they did
anything bad, it's just that you
you're starting to understand with this show, like
(18:07):
there's going to be a concept and then
they're going to like really
bring that concept to life. So the fact that this is
called the One or because Matt's obsessed with wanting
to watch this one shot occur for
a movie they're working on and
it's all shot. The irony is that it's all
(18:28):
shot in one take, which, which is
clever. And then especially towards the end when you
start, when the, when the interruptions
really start to escalate between him
interrupting the scene by, by wanting
to talk to Greta, to them finding
out that the car was parked in the wrong
spot. Which was a great callback because I had forgotten about
(18:51):
that by the time we got there. But at the
same time I'm just like, I, can't
because I don't
know if I'll ever look at a one again and
not compare it to adolescence.
>> Will (19:06):
Yeah. So I, I, I, I thought, like I said
as I thought about adolescence and and I think there was a
couple, maybe it was some other things
that we've talked recently where there's been like the one
shot. But you're right, I mean it definitely
for the, the, the comet. The comedy of
errors and, and Matt just
(19:26):
wanting to, you know, to be there for it and
then, and all, and also like all the other
things around him
showing up as far as like the, you know,
the publicity as far as you and, and,
and everything you with
the, you know, with the car. I mean like as soon as the car, like since
(19:47):
they got like parked there and then when the show ended, the
episode ended, I was like, they're not going to be able to fit. That's
going to be, that's going to be the, the, the, the
crescendo of all the fuck
ups. Because they parked the car right there
because they were already running late and, and,
and just, you know, just from the, from, to get. Everything
was just like just
(20:10):
messing up. Yeah.
>> Sarah (20:11):
Well, what was the best up
out of all of them in this episode?
>> Will (20:17):
Oh God. Oh.
Man. So the car is definitely one of my tops.
>> Sarah (20:25):
Really? Even though you had, but, but
>> Will (20:28):
It'S still the execution of it. This worked beautifully.
It was the execution. Yeah.
>> Sarah (20:33):
Got it.
>> Will (20:34):
Because, yeah, because you know, you had all these, you know, because of course
you had, you Know you have Matt. I will say I did like
the one where he, like, you know, crashed and like, busted his
face.
>> Sarah (20:44):
Yeah.
>> Will (20:45):
Yeah.
>> Sarah (20:45):
What I Like what I liked about that
one was that. Was that I,
as an audience member
was like, they did a really good job with that one.
When he comes out of the bathroom or wherever they were
talking and. And. Or
wherever he was talking with Sal and immediately
sees Greta. And I'm, as an audience member still
(21:08):
like, okay, everything's fine. And then so it catches me off
guard too when they're like. He just
interrupted like, That. That execution, I thought.
Because a lot of the other stuff
did seem a bit like. Especially with the, Not
the cigarette, but the blonde. I was just like,
see where that's going?
>> Will (21:28):
Yeah. I just love that he was just trying to get. You know, he just kept trying
to give Sarah the note, you know, about the blunt.
And then. And then also like early on in
the episode, whenever he. Whenever
they were, trying to set up the,
The, Others. The. His executive
studio, his own special, like, thing. Get her. Get
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her. Get him away from her so she can just focus on the shot.
Because I mean, the thing about. About the. The
winner here too was they only. Basically
whenever. As soon as she. And when
Sarah, Poli and the director of photography
started talking about they only have enough light for, you know,
for a couple shots, I was like, oh, boy. Except
as I was like.
(22:12):
I was like, the shots gonna get messed up somehow some
way. They're not gonna. They're gonna run out of light. And it's just like. It just kind of
just spiral. Spiral from there because it was just.
But whenever. But the other. The other one too
was whenever he was. You know, whenever he was with. Trying to
whisper and. And she. And. And
Greta could hear. Hear the whispering and stuff, and it
(22:32):
took her out of the scene. I mean,
it was just so many things about why. And. And I've,
got the little still up here like Catherine o' Hara. Like, you.
You know, Patty looking at. Looking at Matt like, you schmuck. I
mean, just. Just. Just. Just get. Just go
already, because you're just messing everything up. But he just. You know,
he was just so, like. Whenever
(22:53):
Sarah, like, told. You know, agreed with him about
the blunt, and then Greta also agreed with it. You know,
it was just like, oh, he's like, I'm. I'm. I'm helpful here. And it,
Just like. It was just encouraging him to like, just.
Just be just a pest there and just. It just messed
everything up. But.
>> Sarah (23:11):
The whispering one I thought was the weakest
out of all of them. that and the blunt,
arguably, for everything that you just said about
that, because those were the most
foreshadowed. But looking back on it now,
it's a good, It's a good episode to follow out
the pilot and to also then be
(23:32):
followed up by the note, because what
we're seeing is
between the oner and the note is,
more. They delve more into his ego
and. And you would think coming off of the pilot,
like, he doesn't have that big of an ego or anything
(23:52):
because he seems like, oh, I just want to make really
good movies. But
with the note, he.
He, He finds himself in this position where
he has to do his job well.
He has to do his one job, which
is, to be honest, to a filmmaker. And in
(24:14):
this case, it was Ron Howard about,
About a movie that, went on way
too long and had this extra. This
extra. What was it, like an extra
30 minutes for 40 minutes?
>> Will (24:27):
Yeah, it was. Yeah. I mean, I loved. Yeah, I
love. That was so great because it's like
one last thing about the. The one or two, which, you know,
which. How meta this show is.
it, You know, so Sarah Poly, she. She,
you know, she directed Women Talking. And it was. No, she was a
writer of Women Talking, if I recall. But this. But she
(24:48):
also was an actor and. But you
know how, like, the thing that I really appreciate about this
show is like, all the things that go into the relationships of Hollywood.
and, and. And so in real life, this was like
her first acting gig in like 17 years. She did it as a
favor to Seth Rogen because they're, you know, they're good friends and stuff.
And, and that's another thing that I think this, that the show
(25:09):
has like, also the.
Really gets into some of the. The. The. The. The
relationships that people have, whether it's good, bad or
in between, and it really, you know, comes to a head. You know, we see
that also with, with the note, as far
as, just, you know, how
good or bad experience can.
(25:30):
Can like basically like color. Color,
your, Your professional, outlook on things
like, and how hard it was for Matt to give Ron Howard this
note.
>> Sarah (25:43):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
>> Will (25:45):
Yeah,
yeah.
>> Sarah (25:48):
I mean.
>> Will (25:49):
Yeah, yeah.
>> Sarah (25:51):
Oh, no, you go ahead.
>> Will (25:52):
No, no, but I was just. Yeah, because I mean, the thing about the
note in particular, so, you know, because.
And I guess Matt was just so
worried about ruining the relationship with
Matt with, with Ron Howard because he, he
thinks Back to like whenever a
beautiful m. He was, he was a lowly PA
(26:12):
or. And he was like first
giving his thoughts at a screening about about
A Beautiful Mind and he was like wanting to give the, the,
the, the this, you know, suggestion about
Will Polk Bettany's character. Right, right. Yeah,
yeah. Imaginary. Yeah, yeah.
Oh, go ahead.
>> Sarah (26:33):
Oh yeah, it's so, so, yeah, so he,
he gave a note as a young PA to Ron
Howard. And the reaction to that
of Ron Howard cursing him out
prevents him from in his, present
day wanting to give a similar
note, albeit the correct
note ironically, to Ron
(26:56):
Howard about this specific new
movie that he's working on. but again,
like I was saying before, it's all about his ego
because he.
>> Will (27:06):
Okay, yeah, go ahead, go ahead,
finish your thought. I had a thoughts about the ego too.
>> Sarah (27:14):
Okay, well now I'm curious about what your thoughts because
I, I thought I'd started, but I'm confused.
>> Will (27:19):
Yeah, so what I was just going to say. I don't know if it's so
much ego. For me it's, it is a bit of ego, but it's also
a lot of insecurity.
>> Sarah (27:27):
Right? Yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah. Insecurity, ego.
he, he. Yeah, yeah.
So, so why do you. I guess. Well,
are we gonna debate about that? I don't know. yeah,
well, he has an ego.
>> Will (27:46):
Because like, you know, it's, it's like, like for example,
going back to the, the suggestion with the, with the
blunt and the oner. I mean, you know, whenever.
>> Sarah (27:57):
He'S, he has, ah, he's a bit
naive, I guess. Yeah, so.
Yeah, yeah,
but because he thinks he's doing the right
thing.
Like, like the irony between this
episode, the note and the oner is
(28:18):
that he was doing all the wrong
things unknowingly. Like,
like I, I feel like with this episode
it's more about ego. Like.
Yeah, it's insecurity. But he
doesn't, you have to remember, he doesn't think
that Ron Howard remembers it.
>> Will (28:38):
Right.
>> Sarah (28:39):
He, he honestly. And they set that up
perfectly where he honestly feels like
because everyone else is telling him that, oh, Ron
Howard likes you. Oh, this. And he himself
feels like, oh, I'm in this good spot. I don't have to go
back there. Unfortunately though,
I have to give him this note and I don't want
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to because this guy likes me
and I don't want him to then
like. And obviously it
does like to then remember
what I said before because in the past
it was the wrong note in the present.
It's the right note. So, like,
(29:20):
the. The. The. Yeah, it's an
insecurity because he. He.
Well, I don't know. I don't know if he really
thinks that it was the
wrong note to. To give at the,
In this episode, like when he was,
younger. There's too many notes.
>> Will (29:43):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well,
I think it was. I mean, well, what I
say, Because he's trying
to. And it goes back to like the pilot with. With.
With. With the studio president,
the owner. I mean, you know, he's not, you know,
he's trying, you know, he's. He's wanting to, like,
(30:04):
have a blockbuster, you know, and.
And so. And he's, you know, and he's fresh in the job.
All the stuff that happened with Patty, you know, as far as how,
you know, how she got, ceremoniously fired.
And. And so, you know, he's not really, you know, he's.
He's very insecure in his position as
studio head. And, you know, and. And so. And I love
(30:24):
the way they, like, set up. Set up this.
The. The episode because, you know, they go into. There. They're
going into screener, and, you, know, they had
that. That great moment. You know, Antony Mackie, you
got, you know, you know, Franco and.
And they're like, oh, yeah, yeah. And then, you know, and then, like
you said, it's just like it goes into the
(30:44):
ending that never ends. Like, we've. Which again,
is just a great reference on, like, run times and.
And. And you know how movies just. Just don't end
these days. So, you know, and then he.
So whenever it was time to give the note,
like, he. You, know, he was like. You said he was
cute. He was still thinking about the, you know,
(31:05):
the chewing out he got by Ron before
trying to, like, get everybody else to, like, you know, to do the
dirty work for him. But, you know, but at the end of the
day, you know, it was the right call. And even. Even, like, it's funny
when Antony Mackey even came into the room and he was just like
this. This thing sucks. I mean, everybody is in
agreement, but at the end of the day, they were so afraid of
(31:26):
pissing off the filmmaker.
because like you said, I mean, it was just set, you know,
because.
>> Sarah (31:34):
Because. Yeah,
yeah, yeah. Like, there. There. There's
always an insecurity that's
overcompensated by an ego.
>> Will (31:44):
Yeah.
>> Sarah (31:45):
And that power struggle within
Hollywood and all of these different players
of this Game
for Matt. It's interesting that you brought up in the pilot him
being insecure in his job because
there's the other side of that pilot and the other version
of Matt where Matt, like, went, got the meeting
(32:06):
with Scorsese,
managed to get. Try to get on track
the movie he wanted to get. Like, I don't
know if it's insecure. Like, yes, it's
there. There's aspects of insecurity. But
I. I think what they're doing with this
character and this person, with
(32:28):
this character is that
a balance of him being a
very naive. I want to be the one
who determines what films to make.
And then having all of these different.
Whether it be the, The real.
Arguably the real head of the studio
(32:51):
telling him what movies he will
choose to make. or
them. M. Or Maya saying, I can't market this.
You gotta come up with something better. or Sal
being like, you gotta think more in
this lane. or Patty
basically kind of mentoring, but
also just telling him he's a. Every
(33:13):
five seconds. Like, there's all of these
other forces that I think are
building more of the insecurity. Because you also
don't go from being a PA
all the way to the head of a studio without
developing an ego. I mean, that when he
tells, When he comes up with this idea,
(33:34):
like, oh, we, Yeah, I
purchased that script for 5 million or
$10 million because A, he could.
And B, then he masked it with
this lie. Like, I. I think there is
a lot of ego. And I think that that's
why it was a good
(33:55):
scene when, quote, unquote,
the real Ron Howard shows up and
realizes what's going on. And then you get this.
These two forces coming together,
clashing in that way. And. And
you can see Matt. I. I like
the. I like how the, The. The
(34:15):
whole sequence that. That is being
discussed in this entire episode
is, kind of an
homage to. By the end of this episode
with Matt being like, oh, well, I really
lost that one. But he didn't because
Ron eventually takes the sequence out of the
movie, and then threatens Matt
(34:37):
and says, if you ever do this to me again, I will destroy
you. No, take it,
take it. And then. And then we even
get more ego, occurring with the
missing real as. And we,
Another director, Olivia Wild,
Who. Speaking. Steals are real. Did
(34:58):
you figure out that it was Olivia
before or. At what point did he figure out that it was
Olivia?
>> Will (35:05):
about halfway through. I think I figured
it out. Because,
it was just. I think. Yeah, it was. And
whenever, they. Zach Efron, you know, I
couldn't help but, like, think of, hello, darling.
and also when they were like, you know, given all the. She went full
Fincher whenever they were talking with the, the guy who
(35:25):
earlier about the can. As far as the whole perfectionist
note in the scene and her,
you know, just getting, you know, getting
that her, you know, she did the cameo and it was just excellent.
So, yeah, so I started piecing it together, but I think it was just
a. You know, the cool thing about this
show is whenever they do, like, you
(35:46):
know, set things up, you know, each.
Each episode, this is like. Like in
this one, it was like, playing off the whole, you know, film noir,
you know, detective story kind of thing. you know,
Matt was kind of like. Was stepping in as, like, Bogey, you
know, Humphrey Bogart or something like that. So I.
I just really like the way they. They sort of set this.
(36:08):
Just, you know, set things up,
organically. not only from the story
standpoint, but also from the sets and the.
The wardrobe. I mean, thinking back to, you know, the oner.
you know, just that trying to, like, dress down and ended up
looking like, you know, just like, you know, just a studio hand. And they didn't even
realize he was. Because he got rid of his suit. there
(36:29):
little. Little things like that are just like, the little details that I really
appreciate about this show.
>> Sarah (36:36):
Yeah, I.
I go back and forth on it. M.
Sometimes it comes off as a bit gimmicky to me.
and I don't know why, but it doesn't
play as original. I do
like how they normalize.
like the idea that, like, you have this
(36:59):
sequence in this episode called the Missing Reel,
where, they cut to Matt
in a trench coat and it's voiceover.
And then about 10 seconds later, Sal calls
him over and he. He
says something like, why are you talking to that
voice recorder? And it's like my therapist says, whenever
(37:19):
I'm going through spinning now, I have to, like,
journal. so. So, like,
I can appreciate when they do things like
that. but sometimes once I
figure out what the. What the
gimmick is, then I'm just, like, looking for
it and it becomes less. Less
(37:40):
obvious. That's why I appreciate with the note
how there really wasn't that much
of a gimmick. And it felt more
like something a studio
would experience on a. On a
regular basis. feedback, whether
it's to A director or. Or. And it's not
like, also, I just want to go back to it and
(38:02):
say, like, arguably. So they
didn't just choose a new director. They. It was about
giving a. A note to a director
who's so well known as Ron Howard.
Yeah, it would. It would be
like if we actually saw them make the Jamestown
movie and he had to give a note up to Martin
(38:22):
Scorsese. I mean, come on. Like,
so. So I. I think that.
That overall, is what I find
so fun about this show is
the cameos and the.
The. They're not. They're not trying to
make this. No, this is clearly Hollywood, and
(38:44):
Seth Rogen has so many friends and that
he's getting all of these cameos. And
the other thing, that
in watching these three episodes
following last week with the pilot is.
I am surprised, pleasantly surprised,
that there has been no mention
(39:05):
of Kool Aid in these three episodes.
>> Will (39:08):
That's right.
>> Sarah (39:10):
So. Because from the pilot,
you think to yourself, oh, that's gonna be
like, maybe the first half. Half of this season or
something. But no, we. They, like,
they. They're doing a good job. Like, that was the premise.
And I'm sure we'll get there. I'm sure we'll circle
back around to that. But.
(39:30):
But they have plenty of other projects
in the works at various states of being
filmed and everything, so I,
I really think that, that that was a
good choice as well, which leads the,
like, this is still the first season, so
it's. You're still creating this world
(39:50):
in this dynamic.
now. Now for the big reveal. Did I laugh
at any point? No. I don't know what it
is with me in this show. I'm. For some reason,
I like the humor, but I'm not laughing,
if I'm being honest. I don't know why.
>> Will (40:07):
Maybe. Do you need a. Do you need a laugh track? I mean, I
definitely find myself laughing out loud with this,
show. You know, obviously, like, whenever. With.
When Opie. Opie,
like, taunted Matt. I mean, it was just like,
damn, Opie. Opie's. Opie's an.
But, But, yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's. I.
(40:30):
There's. There's definitely. You
know, I think it's. For me, it's just really working
as a satire because I guess, you know, we. We both, like,
watch a lot of. You know, we. We
obviously watch a lot of tv, movies and stuff. What. You know, we
both listen, the various podcasts
about entertainment. Entertainment industry and stuff. So I think
(40:51):
for me, it's just, it's just, I think that's why it's just like
working because it's like all the stuff that like you,
you, you, you see like play out on social
media or in these discussions
that you know, whenever, you know, if we're watching like
Rocha and you know, Jeff Snyder, I'm talking a hot mic or some of those
kind of things like that it to me is, I think that's
(41:11):
why it's just, it's a satire is just working so, so well
for me.
>> Sarah (41:15):
Yeah.
>> Will (41:16):
and I have those kind of. But I do have those laugh out loud moments.
you know, not saying like I'm like chuckle fest like all 30 or
40 minutes throughout the episode but whenever,
whatever the moments do, whatever they, whenever they hit for me, they,
they, they, they hit.
>> Sarah (41:30):
Yeah.
>> Will (41:30):
I'm just saying that they don't hit for you. Like you said. Maybe it's not, you
know, it's just, you know, it's just how we just express ourselves.
I mean because you just said it, you do find, you do find it
humorous. It's just.
>> Sarah (41:40):
Yeah, yeah, I just for
whatever reason, it's like the fact that we all know
you've probably cried at more movies than I have.
>> Will (41:48):
Yeah, yeah. I'm just more of a. Yeah, I just wear
my emotions on my sleeve.
>> Sarah (41:52):
Yeah, yeah, you're much more,
you're much more easy to cry and
laugh and me, I'm much more stubborn and it's
like you're gonn. Okay, you
don't get this for cheap. But
it's just something that I
put out there because a, we
(42:13):
don't cover comedies as much as we
cover other like dramas and
especially genre science fiction and all
of that kind of fantasy as well.
So. And, and arguably I
think, I think comedy
is so much harder just
(42:34):
because we, we all, a lot of like, we
all grew up with the sitcoms, the 30
minute sitcoms and that is not what this
show is.
It's definitely not. However, there
is like a very, there is a familiar
kind of almost officey,
(42:54):
feel about it, where,
where I'm glad they didn't go full documentary
but it is a workplace comedy
and so they,
there is that somewhat familiarity there
but also much more modern and
current and as you said, satire
(43:15):
about it that brings it all in.
And so it, it's just,
it's. And, and I would say
like we talk about the bear, which the bear is
coming back in just a few weeks and we will get to
season four eventually.
and I. The bear,
(43:38):
which I always make fun of Golden Globes because
I'm like, it's a dark
comedy, but I'm like, it's not a comedy.
It's not. It really? Because, yeah,
cousin is funny, and. And there are a few
other characters, like, funny doesn't mean
comedy. I think the studio is more of
a comedy than bears.
>> Will (44:00):
Oh, yeah, totally. Totally.
>> Sarah (44:01):
Yeah. Yeah, it definitely is.
>> Will (44:04):
Yeah. I mean, what if for. For next
cycle of the Emmys. I mean, this. This show is definitely going
to be, Will
be in the comedy category correctly,
and m. You know, and maybe give, Oh, gosh,
Justin. What? The show with Gene Smart.
yeah. Hex. Yeah. yeah, you know,
(44:26):
this. This will give. Probably get. Finally give Hacks a run for the money.
>> Sarah (44:29):
Well, I mean, hacks just had it easy.
Hacks hasn't been on air for that long. It's already.
It's. What. How many seasons is Hackson?
>> Will (44:37):
I think it's second. Third.
>> Sarah (44:39):
I think it's third.
>> Will (44:41):
Yeah.
>> Sarah (44:42):
Which it. It only won last year because
the bear was out of running because it had a horrible third season.
Yeah, yeah, so. So
the. Because it's. It's really the bear that has been
sweeping them for the last, like, two years
in that category. So. So.
>> Will (45:02):
Yeah, yeah, true. Yeah. I was gonna say that
Abbott elementary is another one.
>> Sarah (45:06):
Yes. Yeah, Abbott. Abbott elementary
is definitely up there.
so. Which I'm glad. I think,
over saturation, we talk about a lot and.
Which I'm sure the studio is going to reference at some
point,
especially in a genre of film and
(45:28):
TV that we love to talk about, so
I.
>> Will (45:32):
Can'T wait for that one.
>> Sarah (45:33):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. And
then Antony Starr shows up. That would be great,
because, you know, I think there really needs
to be a boys cameo. Like, not a
full boys cameo, but just
because of the satire of it all.
>> Will (45:52):
Yeah, Maybe. Maybe season two. Maybe either
Antony Starr or, Or
Eric Kripke or, Or
even get, you know, Carl Urban, you
know, just show up.
>> Sarah (46:06):
Right? Yeah. Yeah.
>> Will (46:07):
Those would be the three I would like to see.
>> Sarah (46:09):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
>> Will (46:11):
So Jack Clear would be too. Too easy, too
obvious.
>> Sarah (46:15):
Yeah. So that. Well, they're probably gonna do it.
>> Will (46:18):
Yeah, yeah. I mean, the show has been renewed for a second
season, so.
>> Sarah (46:21):
Yeah. Yeah. So it's. Whether it
wins big awards or not, it's
definitely gonna get a second season.
yeah, but. But yeah, and
we will just next week, continue with the next
three episodes wherever they may take us.
And, Because you wanted to move the news to the
(46:42):
Bottom. you have a last
of us season three update.
>> Will (46:47):
Yeah, just a. Just a real quick one as we, As we
wrap up here, with news. So,
as we. The
last of us, the. The showrunners, and,
Bella were at a FYC event. Since
we're. Since we were just talking. Talking Emmys and
whatnot. And, So, did give us a
(47:08):
little, update on possible third season.
they did confirm that it will be. Will be
Abby's season.
>> Sarah (47:17):
yeah.
>> Will (47:17):
And. Yeah. and, you know, I think Neil
Druckmann just basically said this past season was very hot.
This. And this one, he said it's going to be like a wetter
season. So I don't know what he meant by that, but I guess, you
know, obviously it'll be telling the story from. From. From
Abby's perspective. and he's like, you
know, he's like. It's a more a quote. It's more of a drink
of water season than a fire season.
(47:40):
Mazen backed him up. I'm reading from an article from Vulture.
It's a wetter season than a hotter season, and anyone who plays video
games knows water levels are a pain in the butt. So
I, haven't played the game, but we'll see.
yeah, I'm trying to see if there's any other. Other notes. I
mean, basically. Oh, they. Seems like the script hasn't
been finished yet, from the fyc, from the. From the
(48:02):
interview that I've written here.
but, So, yeah, it's going to be a while before. Before we get to
it, but as
we suspected. So. But yeah, that. That just.
That was just a little thing I just happened to see today. it
was, mentioned. Mentioned
at their fyc,
(48:23):
presentation as they are, you know, getting ramping
up for Emmy, nomination season.
>> Sarah (48:30):
Yeah. Pedro's gonna get nominated.
Oh, probably. Probably. The show will probably get nominated.
I don't think it'll win. It was so controversial this
season. nor do I necessarily think
it should win. but
Pedro will probably win if.
Depending on, like, what the competition is.
>> Will (48:51):
Yeah.
>> Sarah (48:52):
but I. I expect him to be nominated
and potentially. Potentially win.
yeah, Mao, that was a massive, like,
big giveaway. had no idea that it would be
Abby season.
>> Will (49:05):
Like, well, shocking for.
Shocking. Not shocking for folks who have played the game,
but for folks who are. Who. Who
never have played the game.
>> Sarah (49:16):
No, you can't. You can't say that because,
you know. You know that if you haven't Played the game and
you've watched this show and you're obsessed with this show
or even if this season you have
talked to people like Will, you
yourself spoiled yourself with some stuff.
I. I just, I'm like no, no, no.
(49:38):
I. By the end of that anybody. Regardless, it was.
It's pretty much you have to be
very low intellect to not
realize what.
>> Will (49:48):
Yeah, true, true. But, but
the main reason why I brought it up when I saw the article
today, I, I really brought it up because I just have. I
thought back to our conversation about the show a few weeks ago
and.
>> Sarah (50:01):
And will hate season two.
>> Will (50:04):
Yeah, it's. It's. Well, I was
thinking more to the point how
I, I really. Your,
your, your call I think was going to be correct where that ah,
they should have done Abby Story Season 2 and then.
Yeah, and that's why I brought that up today because I was
just like. When I saw that I was like. I just, I just wanted, I
(50:26):
just wanted to get it on the record just like
that. I, think you're right that
I said it maybe I m even may have said a couple weeks back,
but definitely just wanted to reiterate that
you're right. I think they, when they. When all is said and
done, we'll. Whenever we look back on this, on
the series, we'll say
(50:46):
that they made a misstep by not having Abby's story
first in season two.
>> Sarah (50:51):
Yeah, yeah. And. And
that. That's. I think that's
arguably regardless of how season
three even goes. But
I see why they did it. They just. For whatever reason
they made so many more creative choices in
season one that
(51:11):
for what. For some reason they stuck
way too much to the script in season two
and there was arguably not as much
creativity which led to kind
of a. And. And
arguably the first
game had less of
(51:32):
a controversial opinion. It's more
beloved than the second game. So you
would have thought they would have
made more creative choices with the second game
considering the feedback that the game players
had. M. So
I, I don't know. But then again
I, I mean at the end of the day
(51:55):
the creatives behind this show in this
game, like they are really.
I'm not saying they are stupid. They are very creative
and very talented people.
I just don't know why.
Why they didn't make sense some choices that they did.
And once you think about it
(52:16):
and realize how this could have
gone if they had just swapped the
perspectives
like, like it. Arguably
it. It could make a better story. But
we We shall see. We're still on board with
it. It's just.
>> Will (52:34):
Oh, yeah.
>> Sarah (52:34):
Oh, yeah, yeah. And who knows? His hiatus,
the fact that the third season hasn't even been fully
written. I'm like, what are you guys doing?
So much time to write seasons two and three.
>> Will (52:47):
Yeah. And Kate, Deborah's like, engaged. She's
filming Godzilla, a Godzilla movie right now. So, you
know, so it's gonna. Yeah. So again,
it'll be like, you know, 20, 30 by the time we get the third season.
>> Sarah (52:59):
Oh, no, no. That's when the next Spider man
across the universe or beyond the universe, we're gonna get. We're
gonna get season three of the Last of Us before that.
Trust me.
>> Will (53:08):
Yeah.
>> Sarah (53:11):
All right, well, on that note, Will, why don't you tell our listeners where they
can find you?
>> Will (53:15):
Yes, you can find me on all the socials at Will
and Polk. W I L L M P O.
>> Sarah (53:21):
L K. And you find me there, too at S.J.
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