Mr & Mrs Sno are Splitting Up! - Solo Style! - Scheduling Sin with SnoMilf

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Mrs Sno: You're listening to scheduling sin with me, SnoMilf. (00:00):
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We'll get you a little out of your comfortzone.

Mr Sno: Yeah, it gets me a little out of the comfort zone. (00:06):
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Mrs Sno: Like being pushed out of that. (00:08):
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Sure, there's a but that's a that's abalance.

Mr Sno: Right? I mean, we'll DVP all day long. (00:13):
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All day long. It's not gay if it's in apussy, right?
I mean, what the. Well, hello, Mrs.
sno.

Mrs Sno: Hello, Mr. (00:20):
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sno.

Mr Sno: You know, I'm so glad that you decided to do this episode topless. (00:22):
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Mrs Sno: Oh. (00:26):
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Mr Sno: I wish you would do more of them topless. (00:27):
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Mrs Sno: Yeah, well, we just had a conversation about how you get hard through most episodes. (00:30):
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I do. Maybe you should go bottomless.

Mr Sno: I'd go bottomless almost every time. (00:35):
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It's ridiculous if I wear pants during apodcast.

Mrs Sno: I mean, I find it offensive. (00:41):
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Mr Sno: I do too, and I think our listeners do. (00:43):
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And I think when we enter into when wefinally, finally get our.

Mrs Sno: Studio shows, we're getting. (00:50):
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Mr Sno: Closer. I'm actually, you know, like, it's like we're breathing hard. (00:52):
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I'm, um, getting getting ready to like, putprimer up and paint up and that kind of
stuff. So we're we're getting there.
So when the studio gets done, I think we'regoing to add a little bit of video here and
there.

Mrs Sno: Yeah I've heard. Well right. (01:06):
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Because we have to sell advertisement space.
Yeah. Right. We have to do thisconversation.
We have to sell.

Mr Sno: Ads on your titties. (01:13):
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Mrs Sno: I heart, Mr. H. (01:14):
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What do you.

Mr Sno: How would you price a titty ad? (01:16):
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Oh, is it like, per square inch?

Mrs Sno: I mean, I know I have big titties, but damn, like, that's a lot of things. (01:22):
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I have a lot of inches over here.
I mean, we could.

Mr Sno: Put a lot of ads on there. (01:27):
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I mean, sponsors take note.
Right. We've got a spot for you.

Mrs Sno: It's like. It's like yearbook ads. (01:32):
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You know, like you can sell, like, you know,$20 for an eight inch.

Mr Sno: Um, $20 for an eight inch. (01:39):
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Who wants an eighth of an inch?

Mrs Sno: Nobody. (01:42):
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Mr Sno: Nobody. (01:43):
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Mrs Sno: Nobody. Um, yeah, I think I don't know, like, I guess we could have our listeners, like, (01:44):
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rent out, you know, like, it'd be fun.
Like, will you marry me?
Like, I think we need.

Mr Sno: To do listener shout outs on your. (01:56):
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Mrs Sno: Tits. (01:57):
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Mr Sno: Yeah, like I think when people email us or send us a message or even in discord. (01:57):
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Mrs Sno: Yeah, thanks. Big black cock nine. (02:02):
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Mr Sno: Yeah, thanks. Big black cock. (02:04):
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You know, um.
Yeah. You know, I could see a little.
I could see a little Mr. and Mrs.
Light on your titties there.

Mrs Sno: Yeah. You know, they would enjoy that or a little. (02:12):
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Mr Sno: Deviant action on your titties. (02:14):
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Mrs Sno: Yeah, I definitely think some some. (02:15):
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Lee and Misty would like some space, some.

Mr Sno: Some listing, you know, and then throw some saucy in there. (02:19):
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Oh, you know, saucy kind of.
Right. I think that's where he wants to be.
More or less is right in the middle.

Mrs Sno: I mean yeah, he he's he's seen him. (02:26):
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Mr Sno: He's seen him. He's seen him. (02:28):
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He loves his titties, though.

Mrs Sno: Yeah. I mean, I think that's why he loves Americans. (02:31):
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Mr Sno: I know, I know. He told us so. (02:34):
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I know we flipped him. It's great.
So?

Mrs Sno: So, yeah, the studio is coming along. (02:40):
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We're really excited about that.
I mean, it's been a it's been a long road,but we're making making tracks.

Mr Sno: So speaking of making progress, SnoBall is coming along. (02:46):
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Oh my.

Mrs Sno: Gosh. We have several. (02:49):
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Mr Sno: People signed up already. (02:50):
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We are almost out of single male spots.
I think we have one left at this point.
Yeah, those are very, very limited.
So if you're a single male out there, youbetter get a move on because I think there's
only one left. Yeah.

Mrs Sno: And we met with, uh, not both of them, but one of them. (03:04):
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We may meet with the second one.
Right, right. And the one we met with wasjust.
He was wonderful. Very sweet, very nice,very respectable.
Uh, very tall, very tall.

Mr Sno: He caught up with our entire podcast in, like, a, like, two and a half days. (03:15):
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Yeah, that's commitment right there.
I mean, it's something. I mean, Holy cow.
I mean, good on him, right?
He also, by the way, came up with afantastic idea.
So if you remember back in the WaybackMachine, Lulu, Lulu, Lulu, Lulu.

Mrs Sno: Um, the way. (03:34):
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Mr Sno: Back when we were talking about one of our episodes is called Which Day is Taint Day? (03:35):
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Mrs Sno: Oh, that's. (03:39):
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That was an old one.

Mr Sno: Yeah, it's an oldie, but but, uh, he recommended that we come up with All Taints (03:41):
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day instead of All Saints Day.
Oh, see, and I thought, you know, andconsidering that this whole thing is about
sin, that seems reasonably appropriate.

Mrs Sno: Wow. That's, like, worse than a dad joke. (03:57):
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Mr Sno: I think it's kind of on point, so I want to give him credit for that. (04:00):
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I want to give him credit for that.
So he will be there all night giving outamazing swinger dad jokes at SnoBall, so
don't miss that. Yeah.
Um, I'm pumped to see what's coming nextfrom him.
Yeah, uh, but things are starting to popoff.
The, um, we've got.
So here's the important things for where weare right now as we're recording this right

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now. It's it's the end of August.
The hotel group room rate.
Yeah, is officially only available untilSeptember 5th.

Mrs Sno: Oh, I thought it was later. (04:34):
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Okay. No, it's September 5th.
Another week or so now.

Mr Sno: The hotel has promised us that they're going to try to honor the room rate after September (04:37):
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5th, right, if they have space available.
But there's no guarantee for that.
So a couple things on that.
The hotel room is completely optional.
You absolutely do not have to get a hotelroom.
But we are pointing out that there is notbed play space, right?

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In the room where we're going to be hostingthe party.
So if you think.
You would want bed play space, uh, hotelroom is recommended.
If you're not interested in a local hotel,there are several in the area that we can
suggest to you that are probably availableat lower prices.
So, yeah. Um, you know, we understand that,um, and so we want to support everybody in

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that. The other thing too, is that theticket prices, which were initially, uh, kind
of high, have been, have come down, um, areat 110 for a couple 75 single male, 50 single
female. And we have, um, a couple of offersto sponsor single females.

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Oh, if any single females are out there andare interested in coming, we have a few
people who have offered to sponsor a singlefemale.
Oh, so that's kind of fun.
Yeah. Um, so something to keep in mindthere.
Um, meanwhile, party preparations areunderway.

Mrs Sno: Yes they. (06:03):
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Mr Sno: Are. You got all kinds of fun. (06:03):
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Pineapple.

Mrs Sno: Oh, my gosh, I went to this fun store that I'd never been to. (06:06):
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Um, and they had a ton of, like, summerclearance stuff.
And of course, they had all this pineapplestuff.
And, like, I know, I know, when I went tocheck out with all only pineapple things,
like the only things I bought had pineapplesall over them.
They were like, this lady fucks otherpeople.

Mr Sno: Yeah, absolutely. (06:28):
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Like they comes to the counter with an armfull of swinger shit.

Mrs Sno: Oh my gosh, all of the pineapple stuff. (06:33):
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But I got some really cute things. Reallygood things.
I'm pretty excited about it.

Mr Sno: So that's coming together. (06:37):
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The boudoir shoots with the minis withBridget are available now.

Mrs Sno: Yeah, they're. (06:43):
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Mr Sno: 100 bucks, which is a major discount. (06:43):
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Yeah. And she'll do them. She does.

Mrs Sno: Amazing work. (06:47):
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Mr Sno: She does amazing work. (06:48):
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Mrs Sno: Photos. (06:49):
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Mr Sno: They are optional of course too. (06:49):
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But they're going to be available.

Mrs Sno: So much fun. (06:52):
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Mr Sno: She's so fun. (06:53):
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You're gonna meet her because she's gonna doa demo live, right?
Uh, for everybody at the party.
And then we'll be available to do minis.
And she can do minis either in the room orin your hotel room or, you know, in a variety
of other places. So we will have a hotel.

Mrs Sno: We will have a hotel room available if you don't have one there. (07:09):
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So, yeah, I don't feel like if you don'thave a room, you can't do that.

Mr Sno: Right. We'll have a spot. (07:15):
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And if you want a little more privacy, wecan.

Mrs Sno: Not a. (07:18):
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Mr Sno: Problem. Not a problem. (07:19):
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I think Bridget is actually bringing allsorts of props and little backgrounds and
things that she's going to have in her room,too.
So there's going to be a lot of flexibilitywith that.
Those are available.
You can sign up now.
And the advantage to signing up now is thatyou schedule your time, right.
Right. So if you don't want to wait untilthe end of the night, you can sign up and do

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it earlier, you know, throughout the courseof the party.
So that I really recommend getting signed upwith that.
Um, let's see.
I think I think that's all of it.

Mrs Sno: Yeah. Just. (07:56):
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But, you know, as always, if you have anyquestions, you want to learn more, you're
just interested. Please just reach out andwe'll be more than happy to, to to give you
all the information. But also like if youjust have questions about like what to
expect, I think we're going to be sendingout some email to those who have registered
about like just frequently asked questions,like in terms of directions, where to go,

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what to wear, um, those kinds of things.
Yes.

Mr Sno: And we've gotten a few emails. (08:23):
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The biggest thing that everybody has to dois they do have to email us because even
though, you know, we're we're very muchtalking about it and so forth, it's still a
private party. It's still by invitationonly.
So we need you to email us, give us yourinformation, share us.
You know, a little bit about you.
Um, and the biggest thing is we just want tomake sure everybody's a good fit and they're

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going to have a good time.

Mrs Sno: Absolutely right. Absolutely. (08:45):
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Mr Sno: Um, and so that's, that's the biggest thing that we're after. (08:46):
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You know, it's not a popularity contest oryou know, you don't have to be a Lord knows
you don't have to be a supermodel.
Like, just we.

Mrs Sno: Just want to we just want to keep people safe and comfortable. (08:57):
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That's really what it is. We just want.

Mr Sno: To make sure everybody's gonna have a good time. Um, and the more the earlier you can (09:00):
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sign up, the better. That's really the key,because I think we're going to have a lot of
last minute.
Um. Hey, can I still get in?
Hey, can I still get in? And by then, theroom rates are not going to be available if
you want that. But then also, you guys aredriving me completely insane.

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Like.

Mrs Sno: I don't know if it's obvious that Mr. (09:24):
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sno is a little, little bit of a worrywartsometimes.
And he likes to just know all the thingsright now.
And Last Minute is not really his jam, soit's not my jam.

Mr Sno: I'm a planner. I'm a planner. (09:40):
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I want to know you're coming, I want.
Well, the other thing too.
And another big part of reason not to waitis because we need you to join our discord.
Yes. And we need you to jump into the guestchat so that everybody can start to get to
know each other.

Mrs Sno: Absolutely. (09:54):
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Mr Sno: And we want to see your naughty bits in advance. (09:55):
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Mrs Sno: Ah, yes. There it is. (09:58):
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There it is. That's really what we'relooking at.
To give you a ticket I need, I need.

Mr Sno: There's so many already. (10:04):
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There are so many pretty titties hanging outin the NSFW channel on our discord.
If you haven't been to our discord, you needto join.
Join the conversation.
But we need to see your pretty titties.

Mrs Sno: Right? Of course, all about Mr. (10:20):
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sno wanting to see some titties.
Maybe Mrs. sno wants to see some cocks.

Mr Sno: Who doesn't want to see titties? (10:25):
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Even the girls want to see titties.
Everybody loves titties.

Mrs Sno: Everybody loves titties. (10:30):
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That's. That's another.

Mr Sno: So join SnoBall. (10:32):
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Join the discord and show us your titties.

Mrs Sno: Okay. Way to sell it. (10:37):
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Good job babe.

Mr Sno: I honestly. (10:40):
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What? Really? What more do you need?
So. And enough of that.
So recently we hosted another meet andgreet.

Mrs Sno: Yeah. (10:53):
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Mr Sno: And we've been chatting with some new couples who are, uh, are asking about SnoBall. (10:53):
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Mrs Sno: Yes. Um, I got to, uh, go out to meet one of the couples because you couldn't go. (10:59):
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So you, uh, graciously sent me to go meetthis couple.

Mr Sno: You didn't. I didn't really have. (11:09):
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So that was we were talking to them, and wewere interested in trying to meet with them
as a couple, but I.

Mrs Sno: Think they were interested specifically in SnoBall. (11:18):
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Right.

Mr Sno: Yeah, that's how it started. (11:20):
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But then, you know, we wanted to meet withthem as a couple, like, ahead of time.
Get to know them. Sure.
Um, and as is typical, it was.
Well, I'm available on Tuesday.
Well, we're available on Wednesday.
Well, we don't have childcare on Thursday,but we have childcare on Friday.
Right. Like, this is our life scheduling.

Mrs Sno: And I think. (11:37):
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Mr Sno: This is I think this is everybody's lifestyle life. (11:38):
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Yeah.

Mrs Sno: Um, and they're very similar to us. (11:42):
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You know, they're around our age.
You have younger children, you know?
Yeah.

Mr Sno: Yeah, absolutely. We could totally relate to these folks. (11:46):
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I was talking to the gentleman of thiscouple, and he happened to mention that it
was a Saturday, and it was like, hey, we arekid free for the rest of today, and we have
no plans.
Well, that was not the case for us.
But I said to Mrs.

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sno here, I said, hey, would you have anyinterest in going out and meeting these folks
here? And she was like, goodbye.

Mrs Sno: I don't think it was quite like that. (12:16):
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It was like it.

Mr Sno: Was more like this. See ya. (12:18):
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Um.

Mrs Sno: Adult time. Sure. (12:22):
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Um, you know, and I think the intention ofus, me going out there was, I mean, I think
there was a potential of, like, meeting acouple for play purposes, but it was really
just a meet and greet, like getting to knowthem.
Um, also talking to them about SnoBall, um,and our podcast and all that kind of stuff.
And so when I went out there, I did not goout there with the the no expectations.

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Yeah. No expectations.
I did not go out with the forethought oflike we were gonna really do anything
necessarily. But, you know, alwayspotential.

Mr Sno: Right, right. There's always potential. (12:54):
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You know, it's funny, we talked about this.
Um, everybody says the same thing, and I'mjust as bad as everybody else.
I am really good at getting with couples andpeople and whatever and saying, hey, let's go
have a drink. Let's go out.
Let's go have dinner.

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You know, I'm very good at the, like,friendly social piece.
And I have no problem making that firstinteraction, recommending that we go have a
drink or one thing or another.
Sure, I am terrible at the next step of,hey, do you want to go play?
Unless it's just really, like, reallyblatant, like unless it's like really just

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thick. Obvious.
Yeah, I am terrible at that.
Next. Like, hey, do you want to go play?

Mrs Sno: Well, I think. Well, I mean, it makes sense in that there's no risk or harm in going out (13:44):
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with the expectation of just going to meetpeople.
Right? Right. But I think when you make thestep of let's go get naked, right.
There's the risk of rejection.
Absolutely. There's the risk of that's notreally how I'm feeling right now.

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I'd rather just, like, sit here and shootthe shit with you.
You know what I mean? So it's right.
There's a risk there.
And. And I think there's nothing more.
Um, I mean, just talk about anxietyproducing than sitting across from somebody
being like, damn, I want to see that personnaked.
And you say something and they're like,yeah, right.
Like, I don't want to see you naked.
And you're like, okay, well.

Mr Sno: And invariably the hardest part with a couple is that four way connection. (14:24):
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Yeah. Right. And it's tough.
It is. How many times has it happened whereit's like, well, I think she's really cute.
Uh, well, I'm not I'm not into him.

Mrs Sno: I'm not into him. Or vice versa. (14:36):
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Vice versa. Right.

Mr Sno: And. And then you run into the whole taking one for the team thing and one thing another. (14:39):
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Like the whole taking.

Mrs Sno: One for the team, the whole. (14:44):
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Mr Sno: Full couple swap thing. (14:46):
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It's tough. It's tough.
It's tough to get that connection.

Mrs Sno: So I am obviously met with them and actually going by myself was fun. (14:51):
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I mean, it was really that was.

Mr Sno: Your first time ever. (14:58):
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Mrs Sno: Doing it? First time ever doing that. (14:58):
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Um, and I really connected with the femalebecause I feel like she and I are very
similar in that we're both mothers.
We're both caretakers.
I mean, I think I felt like we reallyconnected in that, that headspace piece.
Right? Like, we she and I really can bothrelate to being in the headspace of, um,

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being being in mom mode, being in parentmode, just being in caretaker like that is
always in the forefront.
And that's just what we do.
And that's, you know, and and we were bothmarried to very horny husbands.
Yeah. And so, so that was something we kindof giggled about.
But um, so it was really, kind of reallygreat to kind of just connect with her.
But I also very much connected with the themale part and it's I'm pretty excited about

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what could potentially come of that.

Mr Sno: So we are exploring some solo play. (15:47):
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Mrs Sno: Yes. (15:51):
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Mr Sno: And we have this is. (15:52):
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Mrs Sno: Something that I think when we started we were like never gonna do. (15:54):
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Mr Sno: Yeah, I know this was in the beginning. (15:57):
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So this this kind of goes back to theevolution of absolutely the lifestyle and
never say never dynamics and things.
Mhm. Um, you're right.
In the beginning we definitely said we wouldnever play separate.
And I don't think we ever really had anyinterest in it.
But as we have progressed in this.
Um, I kind of started it.

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And, and for those who listen to the show,they everybody knows that it started for me,
right, with the female of a couple that wegot to know early on in the lifestyle.
Yeah. And that there was so much build upand, and angst about trying to schedule that.
And then finally it happened and it wasamazing.

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And we kind of experienced that.
But, um, those who listen to the show alsoknow that I am bisexual.
Um, and so there was so I also travel forwork.
Right. And there was a person that I met.

Mrs Sno: Well, let me let's let me back up here for just a second. (17:00):
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So let me talk a little bit about how we gothere.
So in, in meeting with him and having a lotof the conversations, we've obviously started
to explore solo play.
Um, and I think actually what started itmore so was Mr.
sno and his his experience in the lifestyleup to this point.

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Um, and so we've we've talked a little bitabout this in previous episodes, but I will
say this journey for me, I have gained somuch confidence and it has been such a
confidence booster for me.
And I think one of the things that Mr.
sno and I had talked about was how youhadn't gotten a great experience solo or a

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great experience during that time.
Am I saying that right?

Mr Sno: Yeah, I think that's fair. (17:49):
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I so, so much of lifestyle experience iscentered around women.

Mrs Sno: Yeah, it's. (18:01):
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Mr Sno: It's centered around the female of the couple. (18:02):
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She is usually the centerpiece of ofactivities or in, you know, a couple swap.
The girls are usually the main center ofattention.

Mrs Sno: And there's also this this the concept of performance. (18:12):
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Mr Sno: Yeah. That's a factor. (18:17):
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You know, it's, um, women don't have tophysically perform right sexually in the same
way that men do, right?
Um, you know, when it comes to women, Imean, just purely in terms of physical
performance to have sex.
Women, you know, there's lube for that.

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You know, if a woman is.
Yeah, like, if you're not wet, there's lubefor that.
And the rest of it is, if there's no.

Mrs Sno: Physical easier to fake. (18:46):
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Mr Sno: There's it's not so much that it's fake. (18:47):
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There's just no physical barrier.
Sure. Right. Yeah.
When it comes to men, of course.
Um, you know, men have to be able toperform.
Right. And unfortunately, just like withwomen's bodies, it's no different.
But in order for a a person, male orfemale's body to be, you know, react

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sexually, they have to be there mentally.
Right. Right. Women can have sex even ifit's, like, not very good for them because
they're not engaged physically, everythingstill works well.
Right. When it comes to men, there are.

Mrs Sno: Plenty of women that are like thinking about a grocery list while they're getting fucked. (19:22):
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Yeah. Right.

Mr Sno: You know, that happens. But a guy can't really do that. (19:25):
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Right. You know, a guy has to be mentallyengaged in what's going on.
And everybody always makes the stereotypicalassumption that if you touch a man's hand the
right way, he'll be blingy, hard, and offthey go.
Um, and that just isn't reality.

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And I have found for me in the lifestyle.
Um, it's not that I want to necessarily bethe center of attention.
That's not what it is, but what what I havefound is that two things I think I have
massive ADHD, so I am wicked ADHD.
I am wicked distracted.
Yeah. And well.

Mrs Sno: There's a lot going on. (20:05):
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It's hard to focus on you.
Right, right. I get that.

Mr Sno: So wicked distracted. (20:10):
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And then, you know, I tend to get like kindof hot.
So if I'm uncomfortable physically that's achallenge.
And so all these little things pile up that,that can make it difficult for a man to have
as a relaxed, good experience.
I think as a woman, not to say that womenhave it easy because I know you don't, but

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but it is. There are differences.
And so I have not had that, uh, I, you know,up until recently, I have not had that great
experience that you've had yet.

Mrs Sno: Right. And so I think in having these conversations about our experiences and what (20:43):
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we've gained and what we want.
Um, it was it was pretty apparent that, um,I felt like I was having way.
Well, how do I want to say this?
I was I was having a lot of greatexperiences.

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You were having okay experiences, but Ithink there was a part of me that was like, I
want you to have the same great experiencethat I have and what is that going to take?
And so it kind of opened up this wholediscussion about solo play and what does that
look like? And it's funny because Iremember, you know, at the very beginning of
this journey, there was no desire to doanything solo.

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Like we were like, nope, not doing that.
Everything. Like we're going to do all thistogether.
Um, and so when you and I were having thatdiscussion, I was very I was I felt like a
cheerleader. I was like, trying to get myhusband laid.
Right. Like, I was like, go, go, go.
Um, but I really wanted you to seek thatout.
And I really wanted you to have an amazingexperience, because I didn't want you to get

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in your head and not be able to enjoy theexperience.
And I was like, well, does that mean you dosomething without me physically there?
Yeah. And just on your own.
And I think it it was very much a there werea lot of feelings that came up with it,
understandably so.
You know, like the idea of you playing solowithout me present.

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And then it was like, well, do you want tobe there?
Do you not want to be there?
Do you want to be downstairs if we'reupstairs?
Do you? I mean, like all of these questions,just like logistics, but also like, I think
the it was like, what are you going to bemost comfortable with?
And I think the thing about the lifestyleand experiences, um, is you have to be

(22:31):
willing to try things and potentially putthings.
I don't want to say risk things becausethat's kind of a strong word, but maybe it's
not inaccurate.
You have to really be willing to say, we aregoing to try this.
Yep. And it's a we decision not an Idecision.
We are going to try this.
I don't know how I or you are going to feelabout it, but we are going to try this and

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and we we have to decide if this issomething that we want to do again or if for
whatever reason, it's not a good experience,it's not going to be held against the other
person because we decided to do this.
It was not a good fit for us for whateverreason.
And and everybody has to then come back andsay, okay, because what I think potentially
is the risk there is, you know, we decide todo a solo play.

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You have an amazing time.
It's the greatest thing.
And then I'm like, this is terrible.
I don't want to do that ever again.
Right. And so then the other person has tobe willing to say, okay, we are not going to
do this again. And that's really hard.
Well, it.

Mr Sno: Comes back to two things. (23:34):
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It comes back to moving at the speed of yourpartner.

Mrs Sno: Yeah. You know and you don't know until you do it. (23:38):
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It is tough.

Mr Sno: To do that. You know, one of the things I want to point out for the single and the solo (23:42):
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play and the group play piece for me isthat, uh, I enjoy the group social setting.
Yeah. I have a great time at a club or at aparty.
I'm having a lot of fun.
I love to be around group play.

(24:05):
I love to participate in group play, sort ofat the periphery of it.

Mrs Sno: Um, I'm more for the person. (24:10):
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People you're with. Not so much for you.
Yeah, yeah.

Mr Sno: And like, I would much rather in a group play situation, sort of play like a supporting (24:14):
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sexual role. Yeah.
Like that's my not watching per se, but likejust being around and present it it for me
it's more fun and it's less pressure.
You know, I can I can really enjoy that.
But for me to have a real experience, like agood sexual experience for me.

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Yeah. I am much more.
I would much prefer a either a small group,like three people or just me and one other
person. Right. And not in such a chaoticenvironment.
Yeah. The problem with the clubs and partiesand all that stuff is because I have such
wicked ADHD.
I can't focus.
Yeah. And it makes it really hard to enjoythat experience for me.

(25:02):
So solo play, um, kind of fits for me.
And it fits like what I kind of like.
But the I think what's really important withsolo play is and this is something I didn't
really completely grasp until we starteddoing it, is that it?

(25:22):
Although it is solo Play.
It's really in my mind and in the way Iperceive it.
With us, it's really not.

Mrs Sno: Yeah, it's not. (25:30):
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Mr Sno: Solo play because, yeah, I like we just had this experience the other day where we were (25:31):
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set up to have actually a threesome today,and for whatever reasons, it didn't work out.
And your comment was, well, you can go aheadand play.

Mrs Sno: Right. I was just not in the headspace, just not in the headspace. (25:48):
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Mr Sno: And I have no interest in that at all. (25:51):
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Yeah. Zero.
Because for me, even though it is me playingalone with someone else, you're still engaged
with it. You're interested in what's goingon.
We're sending you pictures or video or I'mtalking to you about it before or after.

(26:11):
The idea that you're just off, not engagedwith it at all doesn't work for me.
Yeah. So it's funny how, you know, we callit solo play, and I think people view it as
going off and doing your own thing.
Um, for us, I don't really view it as that.

Mrs Sno: And I think it's it's so different for everybody because we have, you know, some (26:28):
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friends of ours that they individually dosome solo play, but they don't they don't
talk about specifics.
Right. Like, I mean, I think they do talkabout it when they get together like, oh, you
know, but I think they're purposely a littlebit more vague or, you know what I mean,
because the other person doesn't want toknow.

(26:49):
So it just it just depends.
And you just don't know until you do it.

Mr Sno: You don't. And we've we've even known couples. (26:53):
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I heard about a couple a while back who had,I think it was like a 48 hour rule.
You know, you could play with anotherperson, but within 48 hours you had to tell
the other partner, so you can do it howeveryou want.
But for us and I, the reason I say all thisis because for new couples who are

(27:14):
contemplating solo play, which I think is anintimidating and probably one of the most
intimidating aspects of the lifestyle, in myopinion.
Yeah. Because to your point about risk, Ifeel like solo play carries the most risk of
right of feelings.

Mrs Sno: Absolutely. Because there's so much unknown there. (27:33):
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Mr Sno: There's so much unknown there and there, you know, you're your mind is going to swim, you (27:35):
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know, is is my person having more fun withthat other person?
Right. Are they better than me?
Right. Is she more attracted to them thanme?
Right. Um, you know, and.

Mrs Sno: Like, are they. And especially if there's, like, a lot of chatting, right? (27:49):
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Like, what are they talking about?
And and. Right.

Mr Sno: And so, you know, your person is having a very intimate experience with someone else, (27:55):
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which while at the same time might be veryexciting.

Mrs Sno: Yeah. That's the point of it. (28:03):
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Mr Sno: But it's also, you know, it's sort of the good dog and the bad dog, right? (28:04):
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I mean, you have on the one side you havehow much you enjoy it.
And, and frankly, this risk, this, thisteasing with your emotions and teasing with
your feelings is part of why it's fun.
Mhm. At least for me.
Well, it gets you.

Mrs Sno: A little out of your comfort. (28:21):
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Mr Sno: Zone. Yeah, it gets me a little out of the comfort zone. (28:22):
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Mrs Sno: Like being pushed out of that? (28:24):
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Sure. There's a little. That's a that's abalance.

Mr Sno: Well that's it. You know, like, it is a balance. (28:28):
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And I like sticking my toe in theuncomfortable water.
I don't like jumping in.
Sure. And and I think a lot of people canrelate to that.
And solo play is probably, in my view, kindof the last big frontier as far as swinging

(28:48):
in the lifestyle and getting comfortablewith doing things, because doing stuff
together is doing stuff together.
Doing stuff separate is a different animal.
Yeah. So recently those who listen to theshow know that I am bisexual.
That is a part of my life that, you know, Iused to kind of play with that a little bit

(29:08):
when I was a lot, uh, you know, when I was ayounger guy, like, you know, college age and
that kind of thing.
And I hadn't done anything with that side ofmyself In a long time.

Mrs Sno: Well, and I think I remember, you know, there was a lot of hesitation with you even sharing (29:21):
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that part of you with me.

Mr Sno: Oh, absolutely. You know, there's the whole stigma to it. (29:30):
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You know, there's what is she going tothink?
Is it going to turn her off?
Is it going to upset her? Like, you know,that's a kind of, you know, you're it's not
surprising. Like you're kind of, uh, nervousbecause you can't put that genie back in the
bottle. Yeah. You know, but we talked aboutthat, and I shared that with you, um, a long

(29:51):
time ago. Yeah.
And honestly, to my happy surprise, you werekind of excited about it.

Mrs Sno: I was it was funny. (29:58):
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Like the idea of it when you first told me,I was kind of like.
I mean, I wasn't upset by it, but I was kindof like, okay, I don't really know how.
I mean, I wasn't upset, but I was kind oflike, okay, well, I mean, that's that's
different. Um, and then when you start, Iremember this like, we were we were having
sex and you really enjoyed getting off onme, talking about previous people I had been

(30:21):
with, and I remember specifically, youwanted me to go into detail about the things
that I'd done. And I remember, for whateverreason that day we had kind of flipped that.
And I had talked about, tell me about.

Mr Sno: Yeah, you asked. (30:32):
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Mrs Sno: Tell me. Right. Tell me about your experience. (30:33):
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And I got so turned on by that.
And that was really hot.
It was so hot.
And I think it's for me, it's notnecessarily about you being with a male or a
female as much as it's you being sexual.
Right? And that is just hot.
When you see your person be sexual outsideof you, it's it's pretty fucking hot.

Mr Sno: Well and that's for me that's that's kind of always what it was. (31:00):
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Although, you know, it is um, you know, Iconsider myself bisexual sexually only like,
not romantically, but, um.
Yeah. Like, I can enjoy that experience withwith either males or females.
Yeah, recently.

(31:20):
But we hadn't done anything with it.
Like we talked about it for a long time.
We hadn't done anything with it.
We did.

Mrs Sno: Some, some, uh, some, uh, threesomes with they by. (31:24):
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Mr Sno: Mail. Well, that's how it started. (31:28):
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And so if you go back in the podcastepisodes, there is our first by male
threesome. We talked about that.
Um, and that was our very first experiencewhere I kind of came back to that bisexuality
piece. Right. And of course, you were there,right?
Um, but recently I met a person while I wastraveling.

(31:50):
Yeah. And that kind of seemed like it couldgo somewhere.

Mrs Sno: Right. (31:54):
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Mr Sno: And I think there was potential at that time, but you and I hadn't talked about it. (31:55):
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Mrs Sno: Right, right. (32:01):
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Mr Sno: Right, right. And so I came back and I was like, hey, hey. (32:02):
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Mrs Sno: So I was, uh, so there's this situation. (32:07):
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Mr Sno: Yeah. Websites. (32:11):
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Right. And some.

Mrs Sno: Apps rather. (32:14):
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Mr Sno: Um, met this person, and I'm kind of interested. (32:15):
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What do you think?
What did you think? I didn't, I.

Mrs Sno: Basically said, I'm surprised you didn't do it. (32:25):
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Mr Sno: Honestly. You did. Yeah. (32:27):
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You're like. You're like, are you telling meyou already did it?
I said, no, and you're like, why not?

Mrs Sno: Uh, but God love, God love, Mr. (32:32):
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sno. And I say that in the moment, right?
But I think he is so sensitive to.
I'm not going to call my wife when she's athome and, like, full solo parent mode and
say, hey, I'm gonna push the button.
Can I do it? Can I do it?
Like, you're not going to put me in thatposition, right?
No, I've learned my lesson. I'm very, veryaware of that.

(32:52):
And that's I appreciate that.
Which, um. Yeah.
I mean, I think that that speaks to, I thinka lot of our dynamic, but also just the
respect and communication that we have witheach other.
Um, but you we had the conversation and Isaid, you know, if you want to you want to do
that. I think that would be I mean, I was Iwas definitely um, I.

(33:13):
There was no part of me that was, like,upset.
Like, I don't remember. Like there was nonegative feeling to it necessarily.
It was just more, what is that gonna belike?
And then how is that going to be?
And and it's, it's that whole unknown.
Like I'm not physically there.
Well.

Mr Sno: And you can't be because that, you know, it's like in a different state. (33:30):
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Right. It's it's like it was that was goingto be that was going to be very specifically
solo play.

Mrs Sno: Correct. Like very solo. (33:38):
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Like you wouldn't come home for like anotherday or two.

Mr Sno: So let me ask you this. (33:42):
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So here I am proposing this solo play.

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Mr Sno: With a male partner. (33:49):
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Sure. Which is different.
Yeah. Solo play is different.
You not being there is different.
Did you have any hesitation, any feelingsabout that?

Mrs Sno: No, I don't think I had hesitation about it. (34:02):
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I think I, I just, I, I, I.
Think I said as long as you video it.

Mr Sno: Well that's it. You did want video. (34:15):
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Mrs Sno: And I think that's how I, that's how I was a part of it. (34:17):
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Yes. Um, and I remember the day it happenedand talking to you about like, well, when is
it going down and when is he going to bethere, and what are you going to do?
And you know what I mean. Like I rememberkind of building up to it.
And then there was that hour and a half orhowever long that I was just like frothing at

(34:38):
the mouth, like, what's happening?
I want to know, like just like juicy, juicy,juicy, flowing.
Right? Like what's happening.
Right? And then I will never forget the textyou sent.
Well, that was fun.

Mr Sno: Yeah, yeah. (34:51):
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And I was like, so many pictures.
I think one of the, one of the questionsthat's been asked is how do you go about
bringing it up? And I think in our case,well.

Mrs Sno: We had so many I mean, there were so many like pieces leading up to it. (35:07):
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There's been so much. Was not like a coldconversation.
Exactly right. Yeah. You know, we start, Ithink would have been a little more.
Right.

Mr Sno: We've been doing a podcast for over a year and a half now. (35:16):
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So yeah, we're we're into this conversationI think already.

Mrs Sno: So basically you should start a podcast. (35:22):
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But yeah.

Mr Sno: So our answer to this question is start a podcast. (35:24):
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Makes sense. Um, no.
You're crazy. Uh.
I think I my biggest things were.
I have always been bisexual.
I it has always been something that is apart of me.

(35:46):
It is not always something that I havetalked about.
Even with you. Sure.
And even with you, it's been something thatI am.
I'm still sort of awkward and shy about it.
Yeah. You know, we've talked.
It's now happened three times.

Mrs Sno: Well, and it's always been solo and I have gotten video two out of three of the times, (36:03):
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and there was one time that it happened andI did not get any video right.
And I felt a little less connected to it.
I mean, again, not upset, but just lessconnected to it, right?
Um, but what has not happened, and I'mhonestly kind of anxious to see is me

(36:25):
physically being present during that.

Mr Sno: Yeah, that that hasn't, hasn't happened yet, but I think. (36:28):
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Mrs Sno: There's a part of me that I think that'll be really hot. (36:31):
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Mr Sno: Well, you know, what's funny about it is this. (36:35):
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And where I was going with this is I'm stilluncomfortable about this part of myself.
Sure. I'm not ashamed of it.
I'm not.
But. But you can't.
This is not well accepted.

Mrs Sno: Well, there's such a stigma to it. (36:56):
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It's like, oh, there's this married guywho's having sex with men on the side.
Like, there's this, like, belief about it.

Mr Sno: And in the swinger world and the lifestyle world, for women to do this sort of thing, (37:03):
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It's like, who cares?
It's. It's all day, every day.

Mrs Sno: Well, I think that speaks a lot to just male sexuality versus female sexuality. (37:11):
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I think so too.

Mr Sno: So much. And everybody loves it. (37:15):
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I am still struggling a little bit withbeing open about it, even with you, with the
microphones off.
Yeah. You know, when we're talking becauselike like I say, I think it's happened like
three times. And for me to be on the phonewith you and to like, tell you.

(37:35):
Well, and then we did this and then we didthis and then we did.
This is really uncomfortable for me.
Yeah. I there's no.

Mrs Sno: Part of you that gets excited about it. (37:42):
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Mr Sno: I think that I think right now where I'm at with it is the, the uncomfortable is (37:44):
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outweighing the excited part.
Mhm. I you know what's funny about this.
And I don't know how else to explain it.
I'm enjoying sharing this part of me withyou.
And I am enjoying re-exploring this part ofmyself.

(38:06):
I'm not yet comfortable with letting you seeme enjoy it.

Mrs Sno: Okay. I mean, you know, I know what's so funny about that is I feel like I can relate (38:12):
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to that on the other side.
You know what I mean? Like, I think you hadtalked about for so long wanting to watch me
have sex with another man.
Yeah, right. And then there was a part of methat was.
And I remember saying to you, I'm reallyworried about you watching me enjoy it.

(38:34):
Yeah. And how much of a head fuck that'sgoing to be?

Mr Sno: Which is funny, because I still count that as one of the hottest things you've ever said to (38:36):
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me.

Mrs Sno: Right. So it's kind of funny to be on both sides of it, you know what I mean? (38:41):
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Like, that's. Yeah, yeah.
But I also think I think it's I thinkbisexuality in males is more
I'm going to use the word common.
Maybe that's not the right word, but I thinkthere are more men that are more are open to

(39:04):
that or interested in that, but are lesslikely to to say, talk about it.
Right. And I think just based alone on theresponse from our podcast about when you kind
of talked about that for the first time.
Right. And the feedback we got was kind ofincredible.
Like there were so many guys that were like,thank you for talking about this because I

(39:28):
have had these thoughts or I've thoughtabout these things and I've been very, very
hesitant and really reluctant to share themnot only with myself but my partner or in
certain settings. Right. So I think it'sthere are more people and males, I think that
think about it, not necessarily they'rebisexual but are interested and just kind of

(39:49):
exploring sexual play in some ways.

Mr Sno: Well, Heteroflexible right. (39:51):
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I mean, yeah, sexuality is a spectrum.
And there's, you know, you can land anywhereon it and it can shift by the day, right?
One of the one of the things that's beendifficult and it's been difficult, honestly,
with this podcast is this idea that withinthe traditional lifestyle, within traditional

(40:12):
swinging bisexual males are still taboo andare still, um, not very well accepted.
You know, and I have to give credit, thereis a there is a telegram, a bisexual telegram
group that spun off of a telegram chatrelated to a big hotel takeover.

(40:37):
And how long ago did we do that?
That's been the fall of last year, so closeto a year ago.
And this bisexual group on telegram hasstill just, is there active every day?
Yeah. And there's some really amazing peoplein there.
Um, and of all levels of, of interest andit's males and females.

(40:58):
It's not just males.
Um, and I talked to them a little bit aboutthis topic, particularly related to the
podcast, because, you know, if I'm honest,um, you know, we talk about we're not
monetizing this. It's not like we need 9000clicks instead of 8000 clicks.
Yeah. But, you know, I mean, this is alifestyle podcast and swinging and we don't

(41:19):
want to run people off.
Uh, but what they reminded me about and Ithink is legit is that when we started this
in the very beginning, we said we wanted tobe authentic.
Yeah. And honest.
Yes. And so this part of our fun is us.

Mrs Sno: Well, and part of me is kind of like, you know, part of me is like, if there are people (41:40):
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that are listening to this that havelistened to us kind of up to these points,
and they've decided that we're not for them.
I mean, I in some ways I'm like, you'remissing the point.

Mr Sno: You're missing the point. And I mean, if we're not for you, that's perfectly fine. (41:56):
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Mrs Sno: I get that. I'm not saying I'm not trying to convince you this is the only way to be, but (41:59):
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I think it's it's it's being open mindedenough to say, hey, like, that's your
journey, right? Right.
And we want to share our journey and ourexperience.
Good, bad, ugly, all the things.
Um, it doesn't mean it's your journey, butit's just the it's the idea, like, this is
this is real, right?

(42:21):
This is real.
The whole evolution, the whole explorationin your sexuality and your relationship.
Um, it's it's real.
And these things come up and, and it's justwe want to share that.

Mr Sno: And, and in doing this, we are exploring ourselves together. (42:35):
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Yeah. You know, this is an adventure thatwe're taking together.
I mean, whether the, the bisexual piece forme becomes any more or less significant part
of our dynamic, it's not really important.
And it doesn't.

Mrs Sno: Change the fact that you are my person. (42:54):
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Right? Whether you engage with sex withanother female, with another male, with
multiple people.
Again, it does not change that you and I aretogether and 100% committed to each other.

Mr Sno: Right. And from a lifestyle perspective, and this is the part that irritates me, is we (43:11):
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could go play with a couple where the womanis bi and you are straight.
Yeah. And that wouldn't bother you at all?
No, no, I mean, you two would not go down onone another, right?

(43:35):
But who cares, right?
You know, it's. So what if she's bisexual?
Like, what difference does it make?
You know, you're doing what's fun for you.
Everybody's. Everybody's having a good time.
Yeah, it doesn't matter.
But one of the common problems is when oneof the.
When the male of a couple is bisexual, it'soh, we're not into that.

(43:56):
Right. Well, what are you worried about?
Are you worried that I'm going to look atyour dick and like it like.

Mrs Sno: Well, but the other thing is, is like, you have no problem putting your dick next to. (44:00):
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My dick when you're both in my wife, like.
Right.

Mr Sno: I mean, we'll DVP all day long, but it's long. (44:06):
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It's not gay if it's in a pussy, right?
I mean, what the fuck?
You know that game in a pussy, I mean.

Mrs Sno: Yeah, but I think it is funny how, like, don't touch me, man. (44:16):
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But, like, we're all naked and we're.
Fucking each other. Well.

Mr Sno: Not only that. Not only that, but it all comes back to respect and consent. (44:24):
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Yes, right. Just because I happen to likethe way your dick looks does not mean that
I'm going to. Hold you down and suck it.
Okay? If you want me to, I will, but I'm notsaying it.
You're not going to. Be assaulted.

Mrs Sno: Yeah. I mean, like, that doesn't change anything. (44:45):
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Mr Sno: There's this common attitude in couples. (44:47):
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Against bisexual males of couples where it'slike, oh, yeah.
No, we don't want to play with you because,well, it's just my belief.
Like.

Mrs Sno: If I, if I, uh, you know, if I go out with, like, if. (45:00):
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Mr Sno: It's all that. Does that make me gay? (45:03):
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Does that make me gay? Yeah.
Like if I had a foursome.
With a guy who's bisexual, does that make megay?
Yeah. No, no.
It doesn't.

Mrs Sno: The guy had a gay roommate. Does that make me gay? (45:12):
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He's gonna try to convert me.

Mr Sno: It doesn't. Now, if you put it in your ass, maybe so. (45:14):
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Questions, but.
Right.

Mrs Sno: But enjoy it, right? It's fun. (45:20):
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Mr Sno: But that's just it. I, you know, I wish for I wish for everybody that we could be more open (45:21):
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and more accepting.
Yeah. To men in this space, just as we arewith women.

Mrs Sno: I feel like this is this is the part where, you know, the star that goes across. (45:37):
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I know.

Mr Sno: Right? This is the. (45:41):
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Mrs Sno: More you know. (45:42):
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Mr Sno: I know, I know this is our this is our gay PSA. (45:43):
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Um, yeah.
You know, and so.

Mrs Sno: So you have had some experiences and some solo experiences with males, right? (45:51):
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And I'm not gonna lie, getting those videos,I it's so fucking hot.
So fucking hot, you know, watching youreceive and oh my god, like just it was
amazing to watch him I this is I don't evenknow how this is gonna sound.

(46:14):
It was amazing to watch him worship yourbody the way you worship mine.
Yeah, that was fucking hot.

Mr Sno: Yeah, well, and it's just it's so different because that's different. (46:22):
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That that dynamic really doesn't, in myexperience, does not exist in straight play.
Right. It's different.

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Mr Sno: Um, and you know, I think there are some people that wonder like, well, okay. (46:35):
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I mean, is this like a slippery slope thing?
I don't I don't think it is.

Mrs Sno: I don't think it's any more of a slippery slope than you engaging with a female. (46:45):
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You know, I don't think it's any different.
Yeah. Um, and maybe there's that thought of.
Well with other female.
It's. He can get that from you as his wife.
He can't get what a male can offer him.
You know what I mean? It's different, butit's all sex.
Like it's again. Ride or die, you and I,right?

(47:06):
It doesn't matter. Yeah. That's it.

Mr Sno: Um, but I think ultimately the big the biggest thing again like that I that I, I (47:08):
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cannot stress enough is I wish that I wishthat we could get to a point where I could
have this conversation that we're havingright now on a podcast like this, or in a
public forum, and not have to worry aboutturning people off.

(47:29):
Yeah, that's what I wish for.
Yeah, because I know that if the situationwere reversed and you were on here talking
about you having your first lesbianexperience, it would be the highest ratings
this show has ever gotten.
Right, right.
Um, and that sucks, right?
Yeah. Like that that, that thatindifference, that that double standard that

(47:51):
it's like that. Yeah.
Um, but we decided that.
Fuck it. We're just going to talk about itbecause it's who we are.
I think there's plenty of other people outthere who can relate to it.
Sure. In fact, I know there are, becausewe've had a lot of messages from people who
have said that. Yeah.
Um, so.

Mrs Sno: Tell me about your experience in that. (48:10):
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For you, what do you think was one of theparts that was the most, like turns you on
the most compared to like a single female?
Well.

Mr Sno: For one thing. (48:24):
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Mrs Sno: I kind of want some dirty details. (48:25):
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Mr Sno: Yeah. Some dirty details. (48:27):
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Mrs Sno: Okay. You don't have to. I mean, you can go into much depth as you want, I guess, but. (48:28):
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Mr Sno: Well, okay. (48:32):
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Um, I can tell you what it is for me, and Ican't speak for anybody else, but I can tell
you what it is for me.
When I am having sex with a woman that itfeels to me that I am.
How do I say this?
I'm there for her.

Mrs Sno: Yeah. Right. Oh, sure. (48:49):
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Mr Sno: Like the the the my goal. (48:51):
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Although of course I'm having fun andenjoying myself.
But my goal is to pleasure and satisfy her.
Right, right. It feels not.
Not one directional necessarily, but I amdefinitely the giver.
And she is the receiver.

Mrs Sno: You are fucking her. (49:10):
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I am.

Mr Sno: Fucking her. I mean. (49:11):
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Mrs Sno: I guess for lack of better. (49:12):
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Yeah, but I get that.
Yeah. Yeah.

Mr Sno: And it in, in, in the case of playing with another male. (49:15):
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Although I'm not a bottom.
Um, but it feels very, uh, bi directional.

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Mr Sno: Right, right. No pun intended. (49:29):
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Like, it feels very much like both peopleare there for each other.
And, I mean, I'm guessing it's probably thesame way with two women.
Yeah. Like, I'm guessing that that's kind ofthe same vibe.

Mrs Sno: Well, the same versus opposite, right? (49:43):
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I mean, like, I think it's.
Yeah. Yeah.

Mr Sno: Like it's it's it's not so much like a giver or receiver you know, type situation. (49:47):
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Mrs Sno: You're kind of both for both. (49:51):
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Mr Sno: You're both for. (49:52):
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Mrs Sno: Both. Yeah. And that makes sense. (49:53):
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Mr Sno: I have not you know, normally when I have sex with a woman, I don't necessarily feel that, (49:54):
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you know, I'm the center of attention.
I feel like she's the center of attention.
And in in a case with another male, itdoesn't feel like there is necessarily one
center of attention.

Mrs Sno: And I think that really speaks for me why I wanted you to have that experience. (50:10):
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Because being the center of attention, beingwhat it's all about, which I know very much
turns you on, I very much enjoy.
I that's an amazing experience.
It's an amazing feeling.
Yeah. And I, I really, truly, sincerelywanted you to have that experience as well.

(50:34):
Right. And again, what you think, what youthink is going to give you that experience
may not. Right. And sometimes you have tokind of go back and say, well, what is it
that you need to get that experience.
And it may not be what you know what I mean?
Like it's a solo situation necessarily, nota group thing.
Because I think initially, when you thinkabout it in a very stereotypical way, like,

(50:57):
well, every guy wants an orgy, which, okay,sure.
That's I'm not going to say no to that.
But I think when you're really lookingwithin of what is it that I want, what is it
that I need or what I want to enjoy?
It's not necessarily what you think it iswhen you start this process.
I think, well.

Mr Sno: There's a difference between a buffet and a meal. (51:15):
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Yeah, there's a difference.

Mrs Sno: Right? (51:20):
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Mr Sno: And in my mind, a buffet is is just that it's kind of grazing. (51:21):
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It's it's, you know, it's not like you'recompletely into one particular thing.
Like you're just kind of floating aroundenjoying it.
Right. And that's fun.

Mrs Sno: That's great. Oh, it's totally fine, you know. (51:34):
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Mr Sno: But it's different. (51:36):
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It's not the same of that.

Mrs Sno: Right. (51:40):
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Mr Sno: And and for me, the with my ADHD Nature. (51:40):
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I enjoy that, I enjoy that group settingplay, but I enjoy it from a supporting
standpoint. Like I like to be, uh, you know,if you can't be an athlete, be an athletic
supporter, right? I'll be a jockstrap allday long in a in a in an orgy.

(52:03):
I love.

Mrs Sno: It. I will be a jock strap any day of the week in an orgy. (52:04):
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But you know what I'm saying?

Mr Sno: Like, that's that's kind of the difference for me. (52:08):
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Um, here's a question for you.
So I now have done solo play with a male anda female.
Um, did you have any differences in terms ofhow your feelings were related to either one
of those? In other words, was it easier ormore difficult with a male or a female, or

(52:29):
did it did it matter?

Mrs Sno: For me, I for me, it didn't feel different. (52:31):
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Male versus female.
However, what I will say and again, I meanit's just how your brain works, I guess I, I
feel like I would more potentially feelmore, potentially feel more threatened with a
female. Yeah.

(52:52):
Than a male.

Mr Sno: Because you know that. (52:53):
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Mrs Sno: But I knew the female you were with. (52:54):
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Right. Like we knew her.
You have that relationship. Right.
So it didn't that.
So in my mind, there was no threat there.
Right. But the idea of you.
Because we know that couple, right?
So it's a little different. But the idea ofyou playing with a single female, single
female or even a another, a female in awithin a couple that, I don't know, I think

(53:20):
makes me uncomfortable.

Mr Sno: Yeah. So you went out the other night and you met that couple? (53:21):
undefined
Yeah. Um, and now you and he.
Yes. Are having quite the conversation.
Quite by yourselves.
And the two of you are making arrangementsto play together?

Mrs Sno: Correct. (53:36):
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Mr Sno: If you feel like the situation were reversed and I went out and met a couple. (53:37):
undefined
Yeah. That you don't know?
Yeah. And the woman and I were now havingthe same dynamic that you are having with
him.

undefined

Mr Sno: You think you'd feel a little bit uncomfortable? (53:49):
undefined

Mrs Sno: I would, I think I would, especially had I not met them. (53:51):
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Yeah. If I met them, I would not.
Yeah. But if I have not.
Right. Like. And part of having meetingpeople, it's not just physically meeting
them, but it's also knowing that theirdynamic and their relationship.
Yeah. Like this couple that this guy thatI'm talking to, this couple has been together

(54:12):
for, I mean, they're very similar to us.
They've been together forever.
They're very committed to one another.
Like this is very much we we we view it thesame way.
Yeah. And so with that being said, I don'tI'm I'm comfortable with it for that reason.
Right. But I know you haven't had thatexperience, although I think you've talked to
this individual, this male individuallybefore.

(54:34):
So I think you have some sense of it.

Mr Sno: I did. In fact, I'm the one because notoriously you hate chatting. (54:36):
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Mrs Sno: Although I've been very chatty with this. (54:41):
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Mr Sno: Very chatty with him, but you notoriously hate chatting. (54:42):
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Yeah. And so I do most of it with people.
So I did speak to this guy quite a bit.
I mean, not like for a long time, but but weexchanged quite a few messages before I went
out. You went out? In fact, I would neverhave recommended that you go meet anybody by

(55:05):
yourself, right?
Unless I felt like I had a pretty good vibefor him.
Yeah. Um, and so I guess we kind of shortcircuited that a little bit in this case,
because I had already kind of built thattrust with him.
Yeah. Before you got involved.

Mrs Sno: And honestly, I kind of prefer it that way. (55:20):
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I prefer it that way because selfishly,because you're vetting the person.
Right. But also, I think it makes you feelmore comfortable with the idea of me playing
solo.

Mr Sno: Oh, yeah. It honestly, at this point, um, based on having seen the conversations that (55:33):
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you and he have had, both naughty and.

Mrs Sno: Nice. Yes. (55:42):
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Mr Sno: Um, he's been very respectful. (55:43):
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Yes, he's been very, uh, candid.
Um. He's been polite.
Yeah. All, you know, all of these things addup to having a pretty good, feel good vibe.
And if you know, what I think is going tohappen is that you and he are going to meet
up, um, probably without me.

Mrs Sno: Yes. (56:03):
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Mr Sno: And do your thing. (56:04):
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Mrs Sno: Yeah. Which I I'm not gonna lie, I'm incredibly excited about. (56:06):
undefined
But there's a part of me that's, you know,and I was part of this chat with this
gentleman, you know, because he's asked me acouple of times like, well, how do you see
this going down? You know.
He has played solo, I think, in theirrelationship.
I think similar to us, like I think withscheduling, both of them being available at

(56:27):
the same time is not always very easy.
So he has had some solo experiences and shehas had some solo experiences.
Um, and I have not and so I am that, youknow.
He asked me, like, how do you see it goingdown?
I said, well, you know, it's hard for me toreally answer that question because I'm so

(56:48):
used to looking at you during play.

Mr Sno: To looking at me. (56:51):
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Mrs Sno: Correct. I'm so used to looking at you and, um, having having you watch and (56:52):
undefined
watching you enjoy it, but also kind ofshowing off for you.
Right. And that's something I really enjoy.
Like that really kind of gets me going andthis is not that.
So I'm going to be and I said that to himand I said, and of course in a very, very

(57:16):
flirty, sexy way, I said, well, if I don'thave my husband to show off or I guess I'm
gonna have to show off for you.
And so I'm excited about it.
But I'm also kind of I don't know how it'sgoing to go.
I, I'm sure I'll be fine.

Mr Sno: But but it is a very different vibe. (57:30):
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It's a very different vibe.

Mrs Sno: But I could also see the potential guilt coming up. (57:33):
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Mr Sno: Yeah. (57:39):
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Mrs Sno: Like feeling like, what am I doing without my person? (57:39):
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Yeah. I don't know if you had any of thatwhen you're experience.
Um, and again, like, you would be a part ofit in that you would know I was doing it.
You would get probably pictures, texts,videos, whatever.
You know what I mean. Like, we would wewould include you, but it's still it's that,

(58:00):
you know, it's the exact thing that youtalked about.
Like it's this pushing me to beuncomfortable but exciting.

Mr Sno: Yeah, I can tell you that in the solo experiences that I had, it's funny you (58:06):
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mentioned that because with the female, Idid have a little bit of that.
Yeah. Even though you were totally on board,you were totally new about it.
It was very transparent.
And her spouse knew about like it was veryopen ended.

(58:27):
Right? Yeah. Or above board, I mean, andeven still, I think I had that moment of kind
of like, should I be doing this right?
Like, is this okay to do?
Um, interestingly, in the situation with themale play partner, I didn't and I can tell
you the difference.

(58:47):
Yeah. Because with a male play partner, itis purely sex.
Oh, it's 100% physical.

Mrs Sno: That's it. Yeah. (58:55):
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Mr Sno: You know. (58:56):
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Mrs Sno: It's. You have no romantic interest in having a relationship with the male. (58:56):
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Zero. Correct. You know.

Mr Sno: We're not even. (59:01):
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Mrs Sno: I totally get it. (59:01):
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Mr Sno: We're not going to go get a drink. (59:02):
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We're not going to go to dinner.
We're not going to go hang out.
Right. It is purely a play session.
Yeah. In the case with with a female, um,there's a little bit of a relationship there,
which is.

Mrs Sno: There's more intimacy. (59:18):
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Mr Sno: There. There's a little bit more intimacy there. (59:18):
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Right. And I know what's interesting aboutthis is.
And she's going to come on the show, she andher husband are going to come on the show.
They've asked us now twice, and we're soexcited to have them do it.
They want to come in and talk aboutjealousy.
Yeah. And I think that might actually be agreat topic to talk about right after this
episode. Yeah, because one of the thingsshe's mentioned is that her husband goes out

(59:45):
and plays, and she's fine with that, right?
But for her, one of the boundaries is thecuddle pillow talk session afterwards.
She feels like the sex is fine, but weshouldn't necessarily cuddle and talk and
share our life stories and you know.

(01:00:07):
Well, that pillow.

Mrs Sno: Talk, that intimacy pillow talk. (01:00:08):
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Sure.

Mr Sno: Afterwards, that kind of crosses a line. (01:00:09):
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Yeah. And so I'm curious, when you go haveyour experience.
Yeah. I'm very curious to hear later about,you know, I want to hear every stroke.
Um, but then I also want to hear, like, wasit awkward before?

(01:00:32):
Was it awkward after?

Mrs Sno: I could totally picture. (01:00:33):
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And I even even in some of the thethreesomes that we've had with guys that we
have played with before, it's kind of alittle it's kind of an awkward start, you
know what I mean? It's kind of like.

Mr Sno: Well, and it. (01:00:44):
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Mrs Sno: Can be once you get that switch flipped, I think it'll be fine. (01:00:45):
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Mr Sno: But it's especially when it doesn't start out with a social aspect first. (01:00:47):
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Mrs Sno: Yes. You know. Yes. (01:00:52):
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If we don't, if we.

Mr Sno: If we just meet up and we're gonna fuck. (01:00:54):
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Mrs Sno: Yeah. (01:00:56):
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Mr Sno: Then somebody kind of has to say, okay, let's fuck. (01:00:57):
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And then like, you get into it and then it'sfine.

Mrs Sno: Right. (01:01:02):
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Mr Sno: But you know, for everybody just kind of show up cold. (01:01:02):
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Yeah. And be like, okay, let's take ourclothes off.
That there's. That's not natural.
Right. That's not normal.
Right. So I, I'm interested to see I thinkyou do what you want.
I think the two of you should go out in theevening.
Yeah. I think you should go out andessentially have a date.

Mrs Sno: Yeah. (01:01:25):
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Mr Sno: Go have dinner. (01:01:25):
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Go have drinks.

Mrs Sno: Yeah. (01:01:28):
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Mr Sno: Flirt. (01:01:28):
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Mrs Sno: Which is so crazy to think like my husband is just he. (01:01:29):
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Lit. You guys heard it.
He just told me to go out on a date withanother man.
And that's just like, again, when I startedthis, it's like, I'm going to come in.
I'm going to fuck you.
We are not going to make eye contact andthat I'm going to leave.
Right. Right. That's what I thought thiswould be.
Yeah. And there's a but, you know, as muchas, like, I was really nervous about, you

(01:01:52):
know, is this, is this a slippery slope indoing this?
I, I don't think it is.

Mr Sno: At least it isn't. (01:01:58):
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There's a slippery slope somewhere, but Ithink.
Well, yeah. You know, we all we areresponsible to one another to say, okay, this
is it, I need to I need to cool off here alittle bit.
Sure. There was there was a gentleman in ourdiscord server, um, who told a story just
like that, where they were having they had aplay couple that they were playing with and

(01:02:22):
it was going great.
And I think at some point somebody said, uh,you know what?
I think I have feelings here.
Yeah. And it was time to cool things off.
Yeah. Um, but it's kind of like you can'thave one without the other.
Yeah. You know, and the truth.

Mrs Sno: Is a we decision, right? It's a we. (01:02:38):
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Mr Sno: Decision. And if you, you know, you're not you're not going to enjoy it to the fullest (01:02:39):
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if you don't let yourself.

Mrs Sno: Yeah. And that that. (01:02:47):
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So I'm I am I'm anxious to have thisexperience.
I'm really excited to have this experiencebecause I'm not gonna lie, some of the dirty
talk has been pretty fucking hot.
But, um, I'm very excited to just kind of.
Do this 100% for me.
Yeah. Like, even even even though like, I'vehad we've had experiences, you know,

(01:03:12):
threesomes and things and it has been aboutme, which I will own.
It has been about me. Right.
I still feel it's about you because I showoff to you, and I look at you and I engage
with you, and I'm looking you in the eyewhen I'm doing these things.
Right. Like, there's very much a connectionwith you and I.
Despite the fact that there's another personor people in the room.
Right. Um, but this is going to be 100% forme.

(01:03:34):
And so to allow myself to really do that.
Yeah. Is very exciting, but also, like, alittle intimidating.

Mr Sno: Yeah. Do you think, you know, I know you guys have talked about pictures and videos and (01:03:47):
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stuff and sending them to me and potentiallyto his wife and so forth.
Yeah. Do you think that that will take awayfrom the experience, in other words, having
having to quote document it.
You know, that kind of thing. Like will thattake away from that experience or will it add

(01:04:07):
to it?

Mrs Sno: I, I think my answer to that is I, I don't mind taking a couple pictures before, but I (01:04:08):
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think the idea of setting up a video cameraand forgetting it's there is the way is that
I would prefer it to be.

Mr Sno: Yeah. Pro tip that's how I did it. (01:04:20):
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Pro tip.

Mrs Sno: Um, you just set it up and you let it go. (01:04:22):
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Mr Sno: I'm telling you what, I shit you not. (01:04:24):
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It is the best thing you get on Amazon.

Mrs Sno: Go buy one of those little tracks. (01:04:30):
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Go with me.

Mr Sno: You buy a tripod? (01:04:32):
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Yeah. And you buy the little attachment thatholds your cell phone.
Yeah. You charge that bitch up.
You put it in there, you hit go, and youjust forget it's there.
Yeah. Don't be fucking around with trying tohold it and take pictures.
Oh, sure. It's gonna fucking ruineverything.
Just put it there.
Turn it on. Forget about it.
Yeah. And I think that is the, the the leastintrusive way to do it.

(01:04:54):
And actually, as a viewer, I think it's themost natural way to see it.
Yeah.

Mrs Sno: It's like you're there, right? I mean. (01:05:01):
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Mr Sno: Well, yeah. And the video quality is going to be better because it's not like somebody's (01:05:02):
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jittering around in their hands.
Yeah. And I think it's just more natural.
I think it creates a better video.
Yeah. Um, so that's the pro tip.
If you're going to do it.
Tiny tripod.
Turn it on. Forget about it.
Yeah.

Mrs Sno: So, yeah. (01:05:22):
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So I look forward to, uh, Divulging myexperience.
And I mean, I anticipate it's going to be alot of fun, but I'm sure no doubt it will
bring up some thoughts and feelings that I.
You know what I mean? Like that, that I maynot be prepared for or you know what I mean.

(01:05:43):
Like, I would anticipate things coming upbecause it's just the reality of these
situations. Yeah.

Mr Sno: Yeah. Well, more to come on that. (01:05:49):
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Mrs Sno: More to come on that. (01:05:52):
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Mr Sno: I think we should go upstairs and come ourselves. (01:05:56):
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Mrs Sno: Oh, well, there's a thought. (01:06:01):
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Mr Sno: Has he sent you any more messages? (01:06:03):
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So he's been messaging you this entire timehe.

Mrs Sno: Has been here. (01:06:08):
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Let me read my. The latest.
That was pretty, pretty hot.
Um, this is probably.
These two are my favorites.
Um, I sent him a picture of me sitting herewith the microphone because he's aware of the
podcast, and he was, like, very cute.
I wonder what that face looks like while Igrab the back of your head and face.

(01:06:30):
Fuck you. I was like, that is fucking hot.
I'm like, come over now.
Come over now.
Um, and, uh, we kind of giggled aboutadulting as ruining our fantasies, and, uh,
he said he's excited to see when you'reconvulsing in ecstasy on my cock.

(01:06:52):
Yeah. And then he wants a picture of my legsso he can picture what they're going to look
like when they're on his shoulders.
Yeah. Which he'll get that picture here injust a little bit.
Uh, because I will take a picture of my legson your shoulders.
Um, yeah.
So it's, uh. I'm pretty excited, um, aboutenjoying every minute of that.

Mr Sno: I think it's exciting. (01:07:15):
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Mrs Sno: And I love letting you read it. (01:07:17):
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It's so fun. Like, I know you.
You sit there and you're watching me, like,giggle and, like, have these conversations
and you're watching this and you're like,God, I wonder what they're talking about.
It's so hot. And then when I watch you readthem, it's pretty like, again, there's just
there's such a two way street there.
Absolutely. Like, there's so much foreplaythat both of us are enjoying about this.

(01:07:38):
Well.

Mr Sno: And that that's funny too, because I as I am so into this, like I'm so turned on by this, (01:07:38):
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I'm so I'm just fucking over the moonexcited about this whole situation.
Yeah. I'm trying not to make it about me.
It's funny like that seems stupid, but I'mreally trying to let this be about you and

(01:08:02):
for you. Yeah, but it's so hard not to makeit about me because I fucking.
I want to fucking know.

Mrs Sno: Well, you will, you'll get to see it. (01:08:09):
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But after and we talk, we've talked aboutreconnecting and reclaiming, if you will.
But I'm very excited to bring home a very,very used messy pussy to you.
Oh.

Mr Sno: Yeah. We gotta go. (01:08:25):
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Mrs Sno: We gotta go, we gotta go. (01:08:27):
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So, as always, um, reach out to us with yourquestions.
Comments. Um, at snomilf@yahoo.com.
And also please join our discord.
We have so much fun having a lot of funconversations.
And of course the pretty titties and thepretty titties.

Mr Sno: And we can't wait to see you at SnoBall! (01:08:45):
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Mrs Sno: I'm so excited about SnoBall. (01:08:47):
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Mr Sno: Okay, till next time. (01:08:48):
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Mrs Sno: Bye! We want to hear from you. (01:08:49):
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Email us at snomilf@yahoo.com.
That's s n o m i l f At yahoo.com.
You can also join us on our discord and havesome fun interactive conversations with us.
The link is in the show notes.
Talk to you soon!

Mr Sno: Have you ever. You've never been face fucked? (01:09:09):
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No.

Mrs Sno: Well, I mean, you've I mean, sort of. (01:09:12):
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I mean, all right, maybe I need a definitionof face fucking.

Mr Sno: I think I think you need some definitions, because face fucking involves a lot of this. (01:09:16):
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What what what what?

Mrs Sno: Yeah. I don't really know if I like that. (01:09:21):
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