Conversations with people who are living with purpose and having a positive impact in our world. Host Steven Moe asks about their life journeys and what has shaped them into who they are today.


June 10, 2023 74 mins

Mitch Shaw is a co-founder of Upstream, a business which harnesses the power of social procurement to fund charities.  With around $250,000 given out already, it is an impressive example of innovation in a start-up which merges business, charity and philanthropy.  Wearing my other hat as a lawyer I helped them set up 5 years ago so it was special to hear about how far they have come with pushing the boundaries of this idea.  

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This is not an interview but instead an interesting panel which discussed Community Housing with a focus on financing, structuring and legal considerations with Judith Bullin, James Palmer, Natalia Garstecka, Adelaide Brown and Stephen Hart.  Thanks to the Community Housing Aotearoa team for the conference which had 450+ attending and you can learn more about them here: Community Housing | Nga Wharerau o Aotearoa

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This conversation with Historian Rowan Light is from a few years ago and in this episode have pulled out the part where we discussed the meaning of ANZAC Day, the role of history and historians and why we commemorate certain events and not others - check out his book Anzac Nations.  I hope you enjoy this as this is published on 25th April 2023 as we remember the past today: Lest We Forget.  

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Esha is a catalyst for change through highlighting stories of people approaching business differently.  She has just written a book "Working to Restore: Harnessing the Power of Regenerative Business to Heal the World" so in this conversation we discuss the book and how - and why - she wrote it.  However, we start with her background and life story - moving to the US as a child, growing up in an immigrant family, studying English at...

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This is the audio of an article I just wrote for The Spinoff - you can access the text here which also has a lot of links to all the things mentioned in the article as well:

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Aimee is the co-founder of Girls who Grow and co-chair of Future Farmers New Zealand.  In this conversation we hear about her background and growing up in a farming community, what she studied and how her career has led to this point.  We had a positive energy filled conversation about what the future may hold and I hope you enjoy it - if you do, then check out some of the 343 other episodes of seeds

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March 10, 2023 68 mins

Leanne has co-authored a new book "Human Work: five leadership mindsets for humanising workplaces".   Before we talk about that we first have a conversation about her background and life growing up and the influences that have shaped her.   Seeds is a project to hear about the 'why' behind what people do and this conversation was no different - perhaps even with more rabbit holes of curiousity than normal!  I really enjoyed it and ...

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This was recorded 8th March as part of the Entre Annual Launch night and was a panel discussing what they have learned as entrepreneurs.  The insights come from Saskia van der Peet (Real Girls in Tech / Farmgate Foods), Jack Wood (Komodo Wellbeing), Ben Scales (KiwiFibre), Rohan Mathias (FoodFuse).

To find out more about the work of Entre and their competitions and support for entrepreneurs visit Home | Entre - they play a key role...

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Jennifer Hamlin loves animals and in this episode we talk about her childhood, her relationship with animals, we get philosophical about our role in the World and how we relate to them and then she tells us about her life story and what has led her to New Zealand and what she does today.  In particular we talk about the work of the Allied Veterinary Professional Regulatory Council of New Zealand, which she founded and now chairs.  ...

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Jeremy Nurse has led a fascinating life and we hear all about his background and working as a farmer and what led to establishing the 180 Degrees Trust.  They do amazing work with youth to help improve their outcomes.

If you enjoy this there are hundreds of other stories on seeds podcast.

Site: Youth Charity Christchurch | 180 Degrees Trust


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Janet Cole is the Manager at the Kaipātiki Project and in this conversation we hear about her life story and work focussed on impact initiatives that lead to environmental and community outcomes.  The Project is described as follows: "Based in Auckland’s North, Kaipātiki Project is an innovative eco-hub, growing a sustainable future for people and nature. We do this by empowering people, inspiring connection with nature and enablin...

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In this discussion we talk about struggles with banks - how can we make it better for "For-Purpose" organisations?  What is needed for Banks and Charities and other groups to better interact?

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The Race Relations Commissioner Meng Foon joined the last Impact Call and in this episode we hear about the work they are doing.  In his role he is responsible for leading the work of the Human Rights Commission in promoting positive race relations.  It was great to hear in detail what they are involved in today.  If you like this content then make sure to check out the 330+ other interviews in the back catalogue at

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Jen Margaret is an advocate and educator for Te Tiriti o Waitangi and in this interview we hear about her life story and how she came to do this work.  We also learn all about Groundwork and the work they do - what is the place for Pākehā educating and advocating for Te Tiriti.  I really enjoyed this conversation and if you do as well maybe tag someone else in and check out the other interviews at 

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November 28, 2022 18 mins

Rory joined the latest Impact Call to share about Safe Surfer so this is a shorter than normal episode of seeds where he explains what they are up to in providing protections for young people online.


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In this conversation with Diane Ducarme we discuss the links between our diet and health and migraines, and how her time in China helped her uncover principles ignored in Western medicine.  We also hear about her childhood, learning 7 languages and travel around the world before she settled in New Zealand.  I really enjoyed this conversation #333 and if you do as well why not check out other interviews at

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Lloyd has developed the DOT Scorecard and in this conversation we talk about his life and background and then about what 'diversity' really means.  I really enjoyed this conversation and if you do as well make sure to check out the 332 others in the back catalogue.

Lloyd's website which includes lots of resources: Diversity of Thought - Diversity of Thought Scorecard


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This is a short little conversation with Francesca Allen who I unexpectedly met at Queenstown Airport…why?  Have a listen to find out, and what happened next.  We also talk about the wisdom she would pass on to her grandchildren. 

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In this conversation I hear from Dr Peter Loerscher who is an expert on tax with a focus on the implication for immigrants moving to New Zealand.  We also discuss growing up among Roman ruins, what it was like starting a career during so many transitions in Europe of the 1980s and 1990s, why he moved to New Zealand, how treaties are negotiated between countries and a lot more.  If you enjoy this then check out some of the other int...

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In this episode we hear from a panel of Founders on their journeys.  Very often we just hear the glamorous part of the journey of Founders of start-ups. In this session we will be hearing some of the other parts too - no sugar coating, no glitz, just the reality of being an entrepreneur. Sharing are three founders who are each at different stages of the journey- Elise Hilliam from MenuAidSarah Grant from Magic Beans, and Nathan T...

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