Welcome to Shut the Backdoor, brought to you by Redox. Shut The Backdoor is a healthcare security podcast dedicated to keeping health data safe, one episode at a time. Hosted by Jody Maberry and Meghan Mcleod and featuring special guests to discuss the most critical topics for healthcare security.
"Companies have been very quick to implement AI but not necessarily understand the true risks or the necessary guardrails that have to be in place."
Episode Chapters
[00:46] Understanding Mythos and Agentic Systems
[02:18] A Double-Edged Sword for Vulnerability Management
"Security doesn't stop with one customer. You have to think about all of them."
[01:18] Responding to customer compromises with care and context
[02:46] Protecting all customers when one is compromised
[03:41] How organizations learn about breaches in real time
[05:45] Containing risk b...
"If you're behind on updates, you're vulnerable."
Episode Highlights
[00:53] macOS security myths and built-in protection limits
[01:40] How fake installers and malvertising trick users
[02:39] Why trusted searches can still lead to malware
[04:44] Adding proactive security beyond Apple defaults
[06:06] Why personal devices create organizational risk
"Communication is one of the biggest parts of making vulnerability management work."
Episode Highlights
[00:44] Start with understanding your environment and technology stack
[01:21] Prioritizing vulnerabilities based on risk and business impact
[03:16] Tracking vulnerabilities without overwhelming engineering teams
"Security needs to continue to function regardless of that leader being there or not."
Notable Moments
[00:01] Leadership transitions in security are common
[02:17] Preparing documentation and shared access early
[04:53] Systems knowledge must outlive one person
[07:17] New leadership brings fresh perspective
[09:50] Build programs ready for eventual transition
"Good security tools don't replace people. They help people focus on what actually matters."
Notable Moments
[02:22] AI as a Security Teammate
[03:41] Cutting Through Alert Fatigue
[07:16] Continuous Testing with AI Agents
[11:33] Connecting the Dots Across Systems
[16:51–20:36] Ov...
"AI is making attacks faster, more efficient, and more convincing, and that's something everyone needs to be paying attention to."
Notable Moments
[01:27] AI accelerating attacks and phishing
[02:34] Prompt injection and AI misuse
[04:19] Shadow AI and visibility risks
[04:55] Ransomware and extortion trends
[06:35] Infrastructure and virtualization risks
"The main reason people get into trouble is they don't deal with things when they're small."
Episode Highlights
[00:01:22] Why time management, empathy, and discipline are inseparable
[00:02:04] The "layering effect" and how unresolved issues create anxiety
[00:04:35] Why dealing with problems immediately reduces long-term stress
[00:07:17] Daily planning, reflect...
"Good security habits should reduce stress, not add to it."
Notable Moments
[0:00–2:17] Holiday phishing scams and why "too good to be true" usually is
[2:33–3:53] AI voice cloning and the rise of deepfake phone scams
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"Third parties are a common entry point for cyber attacks. This is something you really want to make sure you have under control."
Notable Moments
[00:01:15] Third-party due diligence and security...
"Cybersecurity is a shared responsibility. One organization's defense can strengthen an entire community."
Notable Moments
00:01:00 – What an ISAC is and how it began
00:02:40 – How Health ISAC has grown globally
00:04:44 – Top threats facing healthcare today
00:09:25 – AI's role in both defense and attacks
"We're not trying to avoid AI because of the scary security issues; we're trying to deploy it securely so we can unlock its true potential."
Notable Moments
01:09 – Rene Brandel on why he began hacking Y Combinator AI agents to find security gaps.
02:30 – How quickly AI systems can be breached without strong security oversight.
"There aren't that many things that really are impossible. We just have to set aside boundaries and figure out how to make them real."
Episode Highlights
[02:53] Bob on managing creativity and building environments where big ideas thrive
[05:27] Disney embedding safety and security into their culture
[10:20] Brainstorming approach for tackling "impossible" chall...
"If we can scale AI for better use, it can make the world a better place rather than just your daily personal life."
Notable Moments:
[01:27] Marina explains her AI project with indigenous communities in New Zealand
[03:26] Researching AI responses in abortion counseling
[07:43] Ten weeks in Namibia studying environmental scienc...
"DEF CON is one of those places where you walk in expecting to learn one thing and walk out realizing the possibilities are far greater than you imagined."
Notable Moments
[02:24] – Trevor explains what DEF CON is and why it's unique.
[04:36] – The rise of inclusivity and community groups like WISP and Diana Initiative.
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"Hospitals don't just store data. They safeguard stories, care plans, and lives. When ransomware hits, it's not just a system crash, it's a trust collapse."
Notable Moments
"Security isn't proprietary. Sharing what works makes us all safer."
Notable Moments
01:29 – Rise in ransomware and the case for collaboration
03:41 – Why reinvention puts you at risk
05:12 – The danger of building relations...
"We have to make sure AI doesn't just automate what we've always done. It should elevate what's possible."
Notable Moments
00:40 – What's pushing us to talk about AI now?
04:22 – A call for AI mission statements
08:18 – When tools lead before people: the risk of reactive adoption
11:05 – Defining ...
"DLP is not just a tool that we have. It's also the ongoing education that we have for our employees to further minimize the occurrences of data mismanagement."
Having strong Data Loss Protection (DLP) systems stops bad actors while also protecting employees from making accidental mistakes too. Every day, we put trust in the secure flow of health data. However, no matter wha...
"That's when it starts getting really scary. This is no longer just an email trying to get some gift cards. This stuff can lead to the bigger attacks that then can directly impact patient care."
Notable Moments
01:02 Phishing: Persistent Cybersecurity Threat
03:27 Cybersecurity's Evolving Threats
09:15 Phishing Scams: Calls and Video
10:23 Ri...
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