May 28, 2024 • 32 mins
Imagine strutting out the door each morning, confident that your stylish shirt is also your silent warrior in the battle against climate change. In our latest episode, we spill the secrets of a fashion revolution that could see your laundry pile diminish alongside your carbon footprint. We're not just airing out our ideas; we're calling on our community of eco-conscious fashionistas to help refine a concept I've been stewing over for years: the no-armpit-contact shirt. Tackling the woes of sweat and the inefficiency of constant washing, we're threading the needle between style and sustainability. So, grab your thinking caps – or should I say, your non-sweat-absorbing eco-hats – and join us in reimagining the future of fashion.
Who knew brainstorming extraterrestrial fashion could lead to human clothing innovation? We sure didn't, but here we are, chuckling about Xenomorph fashion statements while unearthing practical solutions for our earthly sweat issues. Laugh along as we poke fun at bizarre fashion ideas and then pivot to dissect real-life apparel hacks that could keep your pits pristine. And don't miss our critical look at an Amazon product designed for the sweaty among us. By episode's end, you'll be ready to drape yourself in a Pharaoh-esque tunic or a sleek, odor-resistant "muscle T," all in the name of conquering body odor without sacrificing an ounce of style.
Our conversation isn't just skin-deep; we're wrestling with the energy conundrum America faces as we ironically ramp up consumption amidst dwindling resources. Hear our playful yet poignant take on energy-saving practices that can be as simple (and amusing) as air-drying your newly designed duds. We even touch on Bitcoin's energy hunger and the zany cost of turning to AI for late-night chats. Wrapping up with a controversial wink at extreme climate activism, we underscore the urgent need to rethink our habits – all while keeping it light-hearted. Join us for a romp through the world of sustainable fashion, where saving the planet never looked so good.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey Scott, how's it going?
It's going alright.
How are you doing Awesome?
Oh, my god, dude, I'm soexcited for today, because I've
been thinking about thissolution for so long.
What Like literally?
Speaker 2 (00:12):
years.
I think I originally had theidea years ago, Adam, you know
we've had a podcast going thiswhole time.
Right, why have you not A lotof my ideas?
They percolate.
You had an opportunity theypercolate.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
They're like simmering Okay, they added an
opportunity they percolate.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
They're like simmering, okay, they're
simmering.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Well, now I'm excited .
So this one simmered for a longtime.
I even took some actions on it.
I hired somebody to help mework on it a little bit, and it
didn't succeed though.
So I need to turn it out to thesolutioners, to our huge
audience of creative solutionersneed to give us how, how to do
it.
Okay, the solution is I got tobe upfront with the solution.
(00:49):
The solution is shirts thatdon't touch your armpits.
Wait, that's the solutionshirts that don't touch your
(01:15):
armpits.
Okay, so, like, right now, Ihave a t-shirt on and it's all
crumpled up into my armpit.
Right, if I just put my arms onmy side, there's a whole bunch
of cloth that's crumpled up intomy armpit.
You, you sure that's not a youproblem, but, okay, everyone
does.
All shirts are cut to be, youknow, in the armpit.
Okay, what I noticed is that'sthe only part of the shirt that
smells after a day, maybe aftertwo or three days the whole
(01:37):
shirt kind of smells, but afterone day it's just the armpit
that smells, right?
So that means when I do laundry, most of the laundry is just
cotton t-shirts my the t-shirtsI wear every day.
Okay, so if you don't have thecloth touch the armpit, I could
wear the shirts two or threedays comfortably without
smelling.
I'd still shower, but then Icould just put the shirt I had
(01:58):
on the day before back on orright cycle them through or
whatever.
Yeah, they wouldn't smellbecause the cloth would never
come in contact with the whatare called interstitial zones.
That's where it's.
Interstitial zones are whereskin on skin.
Your body is like, yeah, acrevice, like where your skin is
on skin, and that's where yourbody gets dirty.
It gets dirty in interstitialzones.
Non-interstitial zones don'tget very dirty at all but don't
(02:23):
you?
Speaker 2 (02:23):
I mean, isn't part of what makes it smelly?
Is that, like you're producingsweat and the sweat then is
transferred to your shirt andthen the stuff that goes with
the sweat is also transferred toyour shirt only?
Speaker 1 (02:36):
because it comes in contact with the interstitial
zone but if there's no cloththere?
Speaker 2 (02:42):
yeah, it makes me think that the sweat just kind
of stays in my armpit.
Yeah, it just sits in the hairsof your armpit.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
No, but it'll just stay kind of hang around and
evaporate from your armpit.
It's fine.
Where does it evaporate?
To Like, imagine, if you have atank top on, do your armpits
get all uncomfortable?
No, it's actually morecomfortable when you don't have
cloth up against your armpit allday long.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Okay, but you could also sit around someone who's
got like an odor and then all ofa sudden you start to get that
odor.
I don't know if it's the touch,don't you think?
Just being that close to asweaty armpit Well, you still
need to be clean.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
I mean, I'm not saying change your hygiene, I'm
saying still shower once ortwice a day, you know underarm
deodorant et cetera, but thendon't have the cloth of your
shirt up against the if you themain.
What we're trying to solve hereis climate change.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Okay, we're talking about climate change.
This is, this is not a.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
This is not a hygiene issue.
This is a climate issue.
People use an enormous amountof energy cleaning their clothes
.
If people could just adopt andwe have fast fashion, so people
are buying new clothesconstantly right, if we could
just change the cut of theclothing so that it didn't
(03:58):
require washing half or threetimes as much, we would reduce
the amount of energy used towash and dry clothes by an
enormous amount.
So this is supposed to be aclimate.
We're supposed to start with asolution, but then I have to, at
some point, get to the problemwe're talking about.
I want to do this as a greensolution.
(04:19):
So an environmentalist or justanybody who doesn't want to do
laundry all the time which Ihate doing laundry I'd like to
be able to do laundry half asmuch if I could.
Okay, I would love to haveshirts designed that had no, the
armpits did not have contact,like, the shirt did not have
contact with the armpits.
So what do you think this shirtshould look like?
This is kind of like how does ahorse wear pants Like, does it
(04:41):
wear it up the back two legs, ordoes it wear it up the front
two legs, or does it wear it upall four legs right.
This is kind of like how wouldyou?
Speaker 2 (04:50):
structure.
I've heard that same quandary,but it's how would you put a hat
on an alien from the moviealien, a xenomorph?
Speaker 1 (04:56):
oh yeah, like how would they wear?
Would they wear it on the frontof their head or at the very
top?
Yeah, they put the whole.
Is it a huge big hat all theway?
Speaker 2 (05:03):
yeah, I've seen that version of this, this quandary.
But yeah, what would this shirtlook like?
What I know?
Would it?
I know what?
Would it would it look likesomething so interesting that
you would not be invited out.
So you know, see, that's thething.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
It needs to look cool enough or normal.
It has to look normal or cool,right.
So one idea I have is thepharaoh.
I call it the pharaoh, okay thepharaoh, oh the like the
egyptian pharaoh, yeah yeah,because you know, pharaohs
always have those like circularthings around their heads, like
on like around their necks, likethey kind of just fall over
their shoulders and then theyhave like a kind of wrap around
(05:40):
their belly yes so that's howyou could make a shirt.
Now there's no, nothing wouldbe touched because the wrap
would fall over your armpit andand chest like the thing over
the pharaohs.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
I mean, they live in a real hot zone there.
They would have had to solvethis whole sweat situation.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
I know the pharaoh, so that's the one I call the
pharaoh.
So there would be.
I don't know if it'd beconnected to itself.
I think they'd probably want toconnect.
So the whole thing hadintegrity.
But you'd pull it over and itwould have like this drape thing
over the, over the front andthe and the back, and then it
would have this tubular thinglike a normal t-shirts tube
(06:16):
around the abdomen, like aroundthe belly, and you could tuck it
in or not or whatever, be justlike a shirt below, but it would
have this kind of thing overthe top.
That's one solution.
Another solution is just slitslike just like you just cut them
out like holes.
Yeah, you just cut out the partthat's in contact with the
(06:37):
armpits I don't want.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
I don't want people free pitting that out there,
either me, neither.
I don't want that covered.
I wanted to be covered.
Yeah, I wanted them to keeptheir sweaty pit.
Like you know, I want theirshirt to absorb.
Maybe I don't want my shirt toabsorb my sweat, but I do want
other people's shirts to absorb.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
No, no, you don't want it because then they smell
more.
You're giving more.
Think of the shirt as, like alattice where bacteria can grow.
It's going to be smellier Ifit's just the hair it's.
It's less lattice, it's lessgrowth area for bacteria.
It's going to be less smelly ifit's uh, if it's not in contact
.
So what's another?
Okay?
Speaker 2 (07:10):
so okay, so you're pulling up.
Okay.
I found here I share.
I started sharing my screen.
I found here a listing for atype of shirt.
It's on amazon, but they, whatthey've done is they've sewn an
extra pad into the armpit.
It looks like probably somesort of absorbing sweat pad
situation.
That's not an elegant solution.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
It's not going to work.
It's not going to work.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Yeah, that's going to intensify what you're talking
about.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
It's going to have multiple problems.
One is you're still going tohave to wash the shirt every day
.
Second is it's going to makeyour armpit warmer because you
just had an extra layer of cloth, which means you're going to
sweat more, right?
Second, it's going to be evenmore smelly because now there's
even more cloth, they're allsoaking through a sweat and
getting bacteria, and thenbacteria grows.
At the end of the day it'sgoing to be smelly.
(07:55):
I mean at the end of you know,at the end of a day or two days
or whatever.
It's going to be smelly.
That's see, I've done theresearch.
This does not exist.
This is a solution for themultiverse baby.
This is new.
So we got the pharaoh, the slit.
I think the slit is stupid, sowe're not doing the slit.
Uh, we got the pharaoh.
Okay, I have this kind of thing.
Okay, now the tunic, which is alittle bit like remind me what a
(08:17):
tunic is a tunic is just arectangular piece of cloth with
a head hole and you and you putthe head hole over and you put
the front of pieces of clothwith a head hole.
And you put the head hole overand you put the front of pieces
of cloth in front and the backof the piece of cloth in back,
and then you can cinch it,either with a belt cinch, or you
can do ties and you can tie thesides up, like with one or two
(08:38):
ties on either side, uh-huh.
Okay, here's another option.
All right, okay.
So this interesting thing oflike ties like cross.
Okay, here's another option.
All right, okay.
So this interesting thing oflike ties like cross.
Okay, I'm doing it right now.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
The blanket, just wearing a shawl or a blanket, if
you just put a shawl over yourshoulders.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
you can actually be totally free underneath right.
So the shawl, actually theblanket, is a odor-proof
solution.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
So as long as we're willing to dress like a
blanketed grandma or a LittleCaesar or a Pharaoh King Tut,
then we can save the planet.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
But apart from that, we're screwed with our modern
clothing.
Well, how do we dress now?
Well, how do we dress now?
What?
What's the like?
What's the like?
Goofy name you could make funof the way we dress now what I?
Speaker 2 (09:37):
I don't, I don't know .
I mean, I'm sure it is, butlike right now we dress well,
now we look like sad suburbandweeb children.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
That's what we look like now.
Well, that seems.
All children.
That's what we look like now.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Well, that seems all put upon by well, yours are put
upon to provide a little Caesaryeah, that's, that was a real
person he makes pizzas.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
So are sad suburban children.
They're also real people.
They eat pizzas.
I'm gonna need to cut up someof these and try it and make
yeah let me see what this lookslike I I want to see you wearing
them out and about.
You're seeing my blanketalready.
Yeah, but you're not out inpublic showing off.
I don't wear the blankets inpublic.
Native Americans do.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Also, I think putting a blanket on will make you
imminently more sweaty if youwalk out, well, not if it's cold
Right now.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Not if it's cold, cold right now, out of its cold,
sure, yeah, well, you put onjackets, and jackets also have
this problem.
Jackets, some jackets,especially jackets that are like
form-fitting they go up in yourarmpit too, and then the jacket
gets all smelly.
There are people washing theirjackets.
I don't understand if you washif you wash a jacket a few times
, it gets completely worn out.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
So I like having sleeves and I like having my
torso and I like having themseparate so that I can move
around.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
I feel like.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
I have a more form-fitting.
Maybe that's what I'm missingfrom what you're talking about.
I like the form-f, or I don'tknow what to call it.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
So, imagine this, so imagine this Imagine you've got
like a tube that goes Well.
Imagine you have like a shirtand sleeves and the armpits are
(11:21):
cut out, so there's like a hole.
Okay, but, now you adhere apiece of cloth, like basically
the way the pectoral muscle soif you think of the pectoral
muscle goes from the chest andthen it comes up over the armpit
, right, uh-huh.
So what you do is you create akind of pectoral piece of cloth
(11:43):
and a lateral piece of cloth onthe back that covers from, you
know, from the front and backcovers the armpit.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
And when you raise it , yeah, without touching it,
it's over the front.
You're talking about a pit kilt.
You're talking about an armpitkilt.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Yeah, yeah, essentially it's basically
modeled after the muscles of thearmpit right.
The lateral muscle doesn'tcover the, it doesn't touch the
armpit.
It covers the back of it andthe pectoral muscle covers the
front of it.
So this is sort of right overthat.
You add these cloths and whenyou raise your arm, those two
pieces of cloth kind of foldover and cover the armpit, so
(12:20):
you don't see the armpit whenthe arms are down.
And then when you raise yourarm they tighten right, because
you're raising it.
They become more okay, you knowtighten and that covers over
more or less the armpit.
Maybe there'd be a half inch oran inch opening.
We might see a little haircoming out.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
But that's complicated, natural, but yeah,
so it'd be.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
this is, I think, the best bet.
I think this is our best bet isis the is the kind of batman or
the, whatever you want to callit them?
The anatomical t-shirt?
We call it the anatomicalt-shirt.
Oh, muscle T.
This is the muscle T becauseit's literally following the
muscles.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
What about that surgery?
What about that surgery you canhave that turns off your sweat
glands?
Speaker 1 (13:05):
In your armpit.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Yeah, they can go in there and turn them off.
Like lasers or something Idon't know exactly, but there's
some sort of a shortcut.
It's not a good idea, becausewhat happens is your body
compensates and you startsweating out of other spots like
the people report like they'relike.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
No, my hands are like way sweatier now you can
another surgery to get rid ofthat.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
So, oh man, it's just surgeries after all the
surgeries and it's just going tobe like spraying out of one
spot on your forehead I think weshould like allow our systems
to operate again.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Zootopia we're talking about zootopia,
anti-feudalism here.
We're trying to like let ournatural you know, zootopic lives
succeed without crushing theenvironment and destroying the
environment also without doinglaundry.
Just on a basic level.
I don't want to do.
I do laundry like every maybe10 days or 14 days, and it's all
my cotton t-shirts.
If I could do half of where mycotton t-shirts two days instead
(13:59):
of one day, I would do easilylike, like, like half as much
laundry.
But I can't.
It's terrible.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
There you go.
So this is the muscle.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
So we need the muscle T.
Okay, so this is good Cause.
When we were, when we when westarted this conversation, I did
not have the muscle, I had themuscle.
The muscle T structure was onthe very edge of my imagination.
I was thinking more of thePharaoh, or the slit or the or,
like the cut open or the or theum, you know something a little
(14:30):
bit more the tunic, the tunic.
But but you know, you made me,you really pressed me with the
little caesar comment like, hey,we got to have something that
really fits our modern times,right, and, and that I.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
I appreciate that, scott, you're always pushing me
if I'm going to spend hours andhours in the gym every day,
which I definitely do.
I mean, there's an audio medium, trust me.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
But if I'm gonna do that, then I want.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
I want some form-fitting I want, I don't
want to, so this could be sowhat I'm?
Speaker 1 (14:55):
describing the muscle shirt, the muscle t, the, the
anatomical t, would beform-fitting.
It would have these, it wouldhave these sort of strips of
cloth right here.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
That would be a little bit different, but maybe
even could be a little bit tight, like it could even show off
the deltoid a little I was justgonna say people would
definitely get some with likeenhanced flaps that make like
their their pecs and shoulderslook more just, more defined,
and you're just like oh, what'sgoing on?
Speaker 1 (15:22):
I'm gonna make one of these shirts today.
I'm gonna take one of my.
I want to see this, okay, andI'm gonna and going to, but wait
, where do I?
Speaker 2 (15:29):
oh, I can cut the armpits out, that's easy, but
then I need to make these stripsthat go over the Cut to seven
hours from now when I get astring of text messages where
you're like I was wrong.
It doesn't work.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
I'm trapped, come and help me.
I'm stuck.
A terrible mistake I've becomevenom.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
It's like a venom suit.
Now I have this alter ego.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Now I think this is going to work the muscle T, and
what's interesting about this isbecause it doesn't exist, I
could sell it.
This could be a business model.
Look at that.
And because it didn't, existuntil our conversation.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
I can profit off of it, what as?
Speaker 1 (16:09):
well, ip, ip, ip.
That's not how that works.
That's not how this works.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Oh well, I'm going to mail this podcast episode to
myself in the mail, and thenit's copyrighted.
Is that how that works, I feel,like you're just playing like
childish games.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Like I touched the base first.
Therefore, that's legal Magic.
What else is related?
So what other things like this?
Obviously, our underwear getsdirty, but it's kind of the
whole point of underwear.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
My underwear never touches my armpits, so that's
not part of it okay, so you'resafe.
That's I didn't I don't pull itup that high I pull my
underwear all the way.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Oh no, yeah, I'm a college professor.
I pull it all the way up.
It touches my pocket protectorand my armpits.
Nerdy, but I, if you would havetold me that I'm a computer
science professor when I waslike 14, I would have said you
are crazy.
There's no way I'm a computerscience professor.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
You had to look up from your drawings of tunics and
muscle shirts.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
You're like, absolutely not going to happen.
Sir, I'm a genius fashiondesigner.
That's what I'm going to be.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
I'm bringing back the Pharaoh.
You just watch.
You come and see the Pharaohwhen I'm walking down the
catwalk in the Pharaoh.
Oh, a Pharaoh would walk down acatwalk because they had such
yeah, exactly, they had enormousrespect for cats.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
No, I would have never thought we can't fix
underwear.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
I will reserve judgment.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Underwear gets in touch with your crotch, it's
going to get dirty.
You wash them.
Okay, skid marks aren't goingaway, but you know.
But that's fine, becauseunderwear is so small that you
could.
I mean, if you were going towash an entire load of just
underwear, it'd be like 40 pairsof underwear.
I mean, that's like two monthsworth of underwear.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
I don't think I have it.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Who has that much underwear?
No, nobody.
But if you did want to reallypush the limits, like if we're
talking about pushing theunderwear barrier as far as it
can go, you know?
Oh, sorry, maybe I'm kind ofgoing over your head in one way,
although I think you'llunderstand it once I say it.
Do you know what limitingfactor analysis is?
Speaker 2 (18:09):
No, I think you do, I mean, I can figure Because we
all do limiting factor analysison our laundry, right?
Speaker 1 (18:14):
We think how soon do I need to do laundry?
Well, I'm out of whatever thelimiting factor is.
I'm out of socks.
I therefore have to do thewhole load of laundry.
I'm out of underwear.
I have to do the whole load oflaundry.
I'm out, right.
So so you have to like areverse bottleneck, like yes,
you have to construct your, your, your, your clothing setup so
that you have a.
(18:35):
You don't have a kind of or likea limiting factor that makes
you do laundry all the time.
Right, if you're doing laundryevery five days because you
didn't have socks.
You just buy more socks and nowsomething else can become the
limiting factor, right?
So I'm saying if underwear wasyour limiting factor and all you
had to wash was underwear, likeif you just if we just wore
underwear, if we were like justunderwear, people where everyone
(18:57):
just wore underwear constantlyand that's it, nothing else I
would call myself underwearpeople then we wouldn't have to
do laundry.
We do laundry once a month.
We do 30 pairs of underwear.
Just throw it in, you know, andthen you'd have your one or two
days of laundry underwear, likeunderwear that you have when
you're doing laundry and thenyou'd have a whole new 30 clean
true, you don't have to dolaundry once every 30 days, but
(19:17):
you're not factory.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Get all the like outer stuff towels gets
protected from and like if youjust wore underwear.
You would collect all thethings that make your regular
clothes dirty as well,throughout the day you wash
yourself off shower but youwould collect it on the.
I'm saying the underwear wouldget dirtier faster if that's all
you wore.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
You'd think you'd have to change your underwear
more than once a day.
Scott, how often do you changeyour underwear?
Speaker 2 (19:39):
I don't go out a day.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
I don't go out in only underwear, like a giant man
baby, so you think you'd haveto change your underwear more
than once a day.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
If you're going out and doing stuff in it probably I
don Like your jeans and yourshirts and stuff if you sit down
on things and, yeah, you pickup crud.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
But how often do you wash your pants?
I wash my pants like once every, maybe month.
What they're clean.
Why would I wash them?
Because you take them out andtouch things and sit on things.
This is the beauty of underwearit does.
Oh, you touch things externally, yeah, yeah, but underwear
protects your pants from gettingdirty, from touching the
interstitial zones of your body.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Yeah, and pants protect your underwear from
getting all the crud that's outon a bus stop when you sit down
on there.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
What crud is there?
What's crud?
Speaker 2 (20:25):
On a public bus stop.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Oh, I think famously there's no crud on those.
But I mean, I don't sit on thebed.
I don't sit on the bed in mypants.
Why not?
Because the pants are not thecleanest thing in the world.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
What are you talking about now, though?
Speaker 1 (20:41):
But they're not smelly, which is the key thing,
and they're not visibly dirty.
If they're not smelly and notvisibly dirty, I say fair play,
don't, don't wash, no wash.
(21:01):
That sounds like the science ofthe five second rule.
I don't know that.
That's a real bit of a five,real science.
Okay, I can tell this fivesecond rule.
I know the science of this fivesecond rule is the moisture
content of the thing droppeddetermines the length of time it
can be on the ground.
Okay, because moisture is whatactually collects the bacteria
from the ground.
So if it's a dry like saltinecracker easy 10 second rule, no
problem, you could probably getaway with 30 seconds.
Because it's so dry likesaltine cracker easy 10-second
rule, no problem, you couldprobably get away with 30
seconds.
Because it's so dry that nobacteria is going to transfer.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
I'm willing to leave that dry cracker on whatever
ground it dropped on.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
But, if you drop a flan, like a straight-up wet-ass
flan, right on the ground,you're done, because it's wet.
It's going to soak up all thebacteria, right away it
immediately, yeah, of course,yeah, done, because it's wet,
it's going to soak up all theimmediately.
Yeah, of course, yeah, so it's.
So actually, the five secondrule, this should be a whole
nother solution, this minisolution right here.
The really the five second ruleis a variable thing based on
the moisture content on thesurface, not just the moisture
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content internally, but themoisture content on the surface
of whatever's dropped yeah, wehave a.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
We create a moisture coefficient and then we say
based on the prevalence of thiscoefficient it's a function of
the coefficient and surfaceportion of time.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Yeah, so we can call it SM, so it's F of SM or SFM SF
solutions on the multiverse.
And that's how we get right,right, exactly.
It's the surface function ofthe moisture content.
So it's sfm solutions of themultiverse, everybody.
(22:20):
So the next time you dropsomething, just remember how wet
is that thing, and then startyour clock all right.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
So, armpit, you're gonna make one of these shirts,
you're telling me today.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
I think I'm gonna make the muscles the muscle
shape.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
I want to see where there's strips over because I
will hold, will hold outjudgment.
I will reserve judgment.
I've been wrong before.
Let me see what it looks like.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
I might be like no, that looks.
I think I might have to make apicture of it first.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
You're going to have to diagram.
I mean it's going to.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
I can't imagine you just wing it and it goes perfect
.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
It sounds like it's a little bit complicated.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
It's just Just cut the armpits out and then put
covers over the front of theback, so you don't see it.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
You say that now I want to talk to Adam, who's done
the process, and see if that'show he would describe it.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
It's impossible, it's impossible.
I've tried everything.
No, no, adam, it's impossible.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
I heard you say you just cut out the flap and then
stick it onto the place, stickit on the front.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Okay, it might be hard, but I'm going to do a
graphical.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
I do want to see it.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
I'll do a graphical example of it first.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
I want to see it.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Yeah, that sounds really cool, and then we'll do,
and then we'll try to do a realone.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
I think I want to just show it to a seamstress and
be like make me this, I'll payyou a hundred dollars and then
you don't hear back from thisperson for like several weeks.
And then all of a sudden yousee their new product line for
like billions of dollars and thefashion industry is like
applauding them.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
And you're like, that was mine, it's mine and I'm
like in the and on the groundand like in the street, like
drinking like cognac from abottle, Like if only my shirt
Right.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
You can't even afford to buy your own shirt because
it's so popular and cool now.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Once I had a railroad , made it run made it race
against time.
What Once I had a railroad.
Sorry, sir, can you spare adime?
Speaker 2 (24:13):
What is this?
Speaker 1 (24:14):
That's a song from the Great Depression.
That's a famous song from theGreat Depression.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Ah sorry, I clearly have slipped on my Great
Depression famous song studyings.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
I think you last episode quoted Blues Traveler's
singer, or something that nobodyknows except for you, so I can
quote very well-known famousfolk songs.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
My music reference was within my lifetime and not
the 1930s.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Well, there's nothing wrong with a little Great
Depression ballad.
Arlo Guthrie A little lament no, not Arlo Guthrie.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
What.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Woody Guthrie.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Who's Arlo Guthrie?
Speaker 1 (24:57):
no, not arlo guthrie, what woody guthrie?
Who's arlo guthrie?
His son, who was a 60s folksinger.
But woody guthrie was the morekind of 30s and 40s.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
I didn't realize arlo guthrie was the child of
nepotism apparently yeah, he waskind of a nepo baby nepo baby
I've seen him in concert and Inamed my cat after him.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Arlo is named after arlo guthrie, but not woody nope
, nope, okay.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Well then, I made the wrong reference woody guthrie
pretend, I said that, woodyguthrie yeah amazing reference.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Good, pull scott.
That was a great one, scott.
Good, cut, not too deep, nottoo, not too shallow right right
in this spot.
Okay, so everybody keep itclimaty.
I mean, the main point of thissolution is everyone should be
thinking about everything theycan possibly do to fix the
climate.
We're, like, really in trouble.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
The ultimate thing.
I don't know that we got messedup.
It is we were sticking on theshirts a lot, but you're saying
fewer loads of laundry meansless water used.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Yes, Well, water doesn't matter.
What matters is electricity,electricity matters, yeah, what
matters matter, what matters?
Electricity electricity, itmatters.
Yeah, what matters is carbon.
I mean sure, water's fine.
Yes, okay, yes, multimodalenvironmentalism you think about
lots of things, but the keything is like if we used up a
lot of water, that wouldn't likewe'd just get more water.
But climate, the climate change, will actually make it so there
isn't enough water there toeven get.
(26:10):
It's like very bad.
And then when you don't wantany, when you do want water,
then there's flooding.
I, that's what climate changebasically causes.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Flooding Extremes and then droughts.
We don't do well with extremes.
We like that moderate middlezone.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
We're going to keep doing climate solutions I make
light of all this, but this ishorrible.
We are in trouble.
Do you know that under Biden weare the greatest oil-producing
nation, nation not just in theworld, but in the world in
history?
Yeah, america is producing moreoil by fracking and doing other
.
We are exporters of oil.
(26:45):
As much oil as america burnsevery day to run their cars and
run their everything.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
We export oil well, that's cool, we pumped out of
the ground.
Yeah, well, at least we'llnever run out of it, if you were
to try, no we if you were todesign.
You know, use more of it as itruns low.
We use more of it faster thanwe're.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
That should be you know, you know what's a good
idea?
Actually, here's an idea.
This is a really good idea.
Oh okay, there's this.
Oh my god, I just had the bestfucking solution ever.
Oh, maybe I'll do it as anotherepisode.
That's hilarious.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
That's hilarious all right, craziest idea, but we
don't have time to go into it.
Stay tuned, everybody, I'll doit.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
I'll do a bunch more climate solutions because, yeah,
things are not getting better,they're getting worse and we
like we all need to like startdoing like.
We need to like start wearingshirts with no throwing molotov
cocktails is what we start needto start doing.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
But yeah all right, everybody keep it climaty, keep
those armpits yeah, or you couldput it you know what's free you
know what is something everyonecan do.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
That's super easy.
We don't do old solutions, butI will just end with it stop
working out.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
If we stop working out, we won't sweat keep working
out.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
it's healthy.
What you can do is just thedryer actually uses way more
electricity than the washer,true?
So all you have to do is go onAmazon and buy a really nice.
They're really nice.
You can buy these strings thatgo across your laundry room and
you pull it across and you canhang with hangers, hang all your
clothes and then just leave thedoor open in your laundry room.
(28:14):
They'll dry over like a day ortwo and then you just take them
all down and and fold them andthe cloths, the cloths a little
stiff.
If it's really stiff, throw itall in the laundry, in the dryer
at the end, put it on a coldcycle and just have it like
fluff it up with some manual dry.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
I mean like dry your clothes without.
If you do that, it actuallymakes a significant difference
to your to to like the energyload of the honestly, though, I
think that the better appeal forthat is that it makes a
significant difference to yourlike energy bills like oh yeah,
yeah, you'll save a lot of moneyrunning a dryer versus drying
your clothes by you know theslow way.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Yeah, massive impact on the electric bill and if you
have to, if you have to use thedryer, try to use it between 10
am and 4 pm.
That's six hours of drying.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
That's a lot.
Well, just try to use it inthat window.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Just do what you need everybody.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Don't use that whole time if you don't need it.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Because that's when no one's using electricity,
because everyone's at work andthere's very little electricity
used, and so the load is low tobe used, and so the load is low,
and so a lot of that energy isactually alternative energy
Solar and wind is being used atthat time.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
And the more energy you save with your dryer
everybody, the more energy youcan use in Bitcoin mining.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
So we think that.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
That's a good what?
Oh wait, you're giving meeyeballs.
Don't do that, Don't do that.
No Bitcoin mining.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
You could actually limit your use of ChatGPT too.
Actually, I've heard that usingChatGPT every time you hit
enter in ChatGPT Makes youdumber.
Does it make you dumber?
No, it doesn't make you dumber.
It uses a ton of electricity.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
I don't know the exact amount but it's a lot.
I think it might make youdumber, I don't know.
I'll hold out on that one.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Other things are making me dumber, like watching
too much TV.
Okay, everybody, thanks.
Keep it climaty.
Do your part.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
Also throw Molotov cocktails.
Thanks for joining in.
Oh, don't do that part.
Yes, don't do that, we didn'tencourage that at all.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Property violence is merited, oh boy, not human
violence, don't hurt anyone, butproperty violence definitely
merited at this point.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
All right, well welcome.
This has been an anarchism fromthe multiverse.
This is not anarchism.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
This is literally the solution to solving, to not
having anarchy.
Anarchy will emerge if we don'tstop fossil fuel crap.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
We must use sensitive , targeted things like Molotov
cocktails.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Yeah, or maybe Molotov cocktails is the wrong
implementation.
Things which have famouslynever gotten out of hand.
But definitely property damageis merited at this point.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
You're just saying Viva La Revolution.
Yeah, c, c, no big deal, justViva, viva La.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Revolution, la Revolution.
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
All right, everybody have a a good one.
See you next time.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Thank you.
Hey Scott, how's it going?
It's going alright.
How are you doing Awesome?
Oh, my god, dude, I'm soexcited for today, because I've
been thinking about thissolution for so long.
What Like literally?
Speaker 2 (00:12):
years.
I think I originally had theidea years ago, Adam, you know
we've had a podcast going thiswhole time.
Right, why have you not A lotof my ideas?
They percolate.
You had an opportunity theypercolate.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
They're like simmering Okay, they added an
opportunity they percolate.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
They're like simmering, okay, they're
simmering.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Well, now I'm excited .
So this one simmered for a longtime.
I even took some actions on it.
I hired somebody to help mework on it a little bit, and it
didn't succeed though.
So I need to turn it out to thesolutioners, to our huge
audience of creative solutionersneed to give us how, how to do
it.
Okay, the solution is I got tobe upfront with the solution.
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The solution is shirts thatdon't touch your armpits.
Wait, that's the solutionshirts that don't touch your
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armpits.
Okay, so, like, right now, Ihave a t-shirt on and it's all
crumpled up into my armpit.
Right, if I just put my arms onmy side, there's a whole bunch
of cloth that's crumpled up intomy armpit.
You, you sure that's not a youproblem, but, okay, everyone
does.
All shirts are cut to be, youknow, in the armpit.
Okay, what I noticed is that'sthe only part of the shirt that
smells after a day, maybe aftertwo or three days the whole
(01:37):
shirt kind of smells, but afterone day it's just the armpit
that smells, right?
So that means when I do laundry, most of the laundry is just
cotton t-shirts my the t-shirtsI wear every day.
Okay, so if you don't have thecloth touch the armpit, I could
wear the shirts two or threedays comfortably without
smelling.
I'd still shower, but then Icould just put the shirt I had
(01:58):
on the day before back on orright cycle them through or
whatever.
Yeah, they wouldn't smellbecause the cloth would never
come in contact with the whatare called interstitial zones.
That's where it's.
Interstitial zones are whereskin on skin.
Your body is like, yeah, acrevice, like where your skin is
on skin, and that's where yourbody gets dirty.
It gets dirty in interstitialzones.
Non-interstitial zones don'tget very dirty at all but don't
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you?
Speaker 2 (02:23):
I mean, isn't part of what makes it smelly?
Is that, like you're producingsweat and the sweat then is
transferred to your shirt andthen the stuff that goes with
the sweat is also transferred toyour shirt only?
Speaker 1 (02:36):
because it comes in contact with the interstitial
zone but if there's no cloththere?
Speaker 2 (02:42):
yeah, it makes me think that the sweat just kind
of stays in my armpit.
Yeah, it just sits in the hairsof your armpit.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
No, but it'll just stay kind of hang around and
evaporate from your armpit.
It's fine.
Where does it evaporate?
To Like, imagine, if you have atank top on, do your armpits
get all uncomfortable?
No, it's actually morecomfortable when you don't have
cloth up against your armpit allday long.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Okay, but you could also sit around someone who's
got like an odor and then all ofa sudden you start to get that
odor.
I don't know if it's the touch,don't you think?
Just being that close to asweaty armpit Well, you still
need to be clean.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
I mean, I'm not saying change your hygiene, I'm
saying still shower once ortwice a day, you know underarm
deodorant et cetera, but thendon't have the cloth of your
shirt up against the if you themain.
What we're trying to solve hereis climate change.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Okay, we're talking about climate change.
This is, this is not a.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
This is not a hygiene issue.
This is a climate issue.
People use an enormous amountof energy cleaning their clothes
.
If people could just adopt andwe have fast fashion, so people
are buying new clothesconstantly right, if we could
just change the cut of theclothing so that it didn't
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require washing half or threetimes as much, we would reduce
the amount of energy used towash and dry clothes by an
enormous amount.
So this is supposed to be aclimate.
We're supposed to start with asolution, but then I have to, at
some point, get to the problemwe're talking about.
I want to do this as a greensolution.
(04:19):
So an environmentalist or justanybody who doesn't want to do
laundry all the time which Ihate doing laundry I'd like to
be able to do laundry half asmuch if I could.
Okay, I would love to haveshirts designed that had no, the
armpits did not have contact,like, the shirt did not have
contact with the armpits.
So what do you think this shirtshould look like?
This is kind of like how does ahorse wear pants Like, does it
(04:41):
wear it up the back two legs, ordoes it wear it up the front
two legs, or does it wear it upall four legs right.
This is kind of like how wouldyou?
Speaker 2 (04:50):
structure.
I've heard that same quandary,but it's how would you put a hat
on an alien from the moviealien, a xenomorph?
Speaker 1 (04:56):
oh yeah, like how would they wear?
Would they wear it on the frontof their head or at the very
top?
Yeah, they put the whole.
Is it a huge big hat all theway?
Speaker 2 (05:03):
yeah, I've seen that version of this, this quandary.
But yeah, what would this shirtlook like?
What I know?
Would it?
I know what?
Would it would it look likesomething so interesting that
you would not be invited out.
So you know, see, that's thething.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
It needs to look cool enough or normal.
It has to look normal or cool,right.
So one idea I have is thepharaoh.
I call it the pharaoh, okay thepharaoh, oh the like the
egyptian pharaoh, yeah yeah,because you know, pharaohs
always have those like circularthings around their heads, like
on like around their necks, likethey kind of just fall over
their shoulders and then theyhave like a kind of wrap around
(05:40):
their belly yes so that's howyou could make a shirt.
Now there's no, nothing wouldbe touched because the wrap
would fall over your armpit andand chest like the thing over
the pharaohs.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
I mean, they live in a real hot zone there.
They would have had to solvethis whole sweat situation.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
I know the pharaoh, so that's the one I call the
pharaoh.
So there would be.
I don't know if it'd beconnected to itself.
I think they'd probably want toconnect.
So the whole thing hadintegrity.
But you'd pull it over and itwould have like this drape thing
over the, over the front andthe and the back, and then it
would have this tubular thinglike a normal t-shirts tube
(06:16):
around the abdomen, like aroundthe belly, and you could tuck it
in or not or whatever, be justlike a shirt below, but it would
have this kind of thing overthe top.
That's one solution.
Another solution is just slitslike just like you just cut them
out like holes.
Yeah, you just cut out the partthat's in contact with the
(06:37):
armpits I don't want.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
I don't want people free pitting that out there,
either me, neither.
I don't want that covered.
I wanted to be covered.
Yeah, I wanted them to keeptheir sweaty pit.
Like you know, I want theirshirt to absorb.
Maybe I don't want my shirt toabsorb my sweat, but I do want
other people's shirts to absorb.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
No, no, you don't want it because then they smell
more.
You're giving more.
Think of the shirt as, like alattice where bacteria can grow.
It's going to be smellier Ifit's just the hair it's.
It's less lattice, it's lessgrowth area for bacteria.
It's going to be less smelly ifit's uh, if it's not in contact
.
So what's another?
Okay?
Speaker 2 (07:10):
so okay, so you're pulling up.
Okay.
I found here I share.
I started sharing my screen.
I found here a listing for atype of shirt.
It's on amazon, but they, whatthey've done is they've sewn an
extra pad into the armpit.
It looks like probably somesort of absorbing sweat pad
situation.
That's not an elegant solution.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
It's not going to work.
It's not going to work.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Yeah, that's going to intensify what you're talking
about.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
It's going to have multiple problems.
One is you're still going tohave to wash the shirt every day
.
Second is it's going to makeyour armpit warmer because you
just had an extra layer of cloth, which means you're going to
sweat more, right?
Second, it's going to be evenmore smelly because now there's
even more cloth, they're allsoaking through a sweat and
getting bacteria, and thenbacteria grows.
At the end of the day it'sgoing to be smelly.
(07:55):
I mean at the end of you know,at the end of a day or two days
or whatever.
It's going to be smelly.
That's see, I've done theresearch.
This does not exist.
This is a solution for themultiverse baby.
This is new.
So we got the pharaoh, the slit.
I think the slit is stupid, sowe're not doing the slit.
Uh, we got the pharaoh.
Okay, I have this kind of thing.
Okay, now the tunic, which is alittle bit like remind me what a
(08:17):
tunic is a tunic is just arectangular piece of cloth with
a head hole and you and you putthe head hole over and you put
the front of pieces of clothwith a head hole.
And you put the head hole overand you put the front of pieces
of cloth in front and the backof the piece of cloth in back,
and then you can cinch it,either with a belt cinch, or you
can do ties and you can tie thesides up, like with one or two
(08:38):
ties on either side, uh-huh.
Okay, here's another option.
All right, okay.
So this interesting thing oflike ties like cross.
Okay, here's another option.
All right, okay.
So this interesting thing oflike ties like cross.
Okay, I'm doing it right now.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
The blanket, just wearing a shawl or a blanket, if
you just put a shawl over yourshoulders.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
you can actually be totally free underneath right.
So the shawl, actually theblanket, is a odor-proof
solution.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
So as long as we're willing to dress like a
blanketed grandma or a LittleCaesar or a Pharaoh King Tut,
then we can save the planet.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
But apart from that, we're screwed with our modern
clothing.
Well, how do we dress now?
Well, how do we dress now?
What?
What's the like?
What's the like?
Goofy name you could make funof the way we dress now what I?
Speaker 2 (09:37):
I don't, I don't know .
I mean, I'm sure it is, butlike right now we dress well,
now we look like sad suburbandweeb children.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
That's what we look like now.
Well, that seems.
All children.
That's what we look like now.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Well, that seems all put upon by well, yours are put
upon to provide a little Caesaryeah, that's, that was a real
person he makes pizzas.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
So are sad suburban children.
They're also real people.
They eat pizzas.
I'm gonna need to cut up someof these and try it and make
yeah let me see what this lookslike I I want to see you wearing
them out and about.
You're seeing my blanketalready.
Yeah, but you're not out inpublic showing off.
I don't wear the blankets inpublic.
Native Americans do.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Also, I think putting a blanket on will make you
imminently more sweaty if youwalk out, well, not if it's cold
Right now.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Not if it's cold, cold right now, out of its cold,
sure, yeah, well, you put onjackets, and jackets also have
this problem.
Jackets, some jackets,especially jackets that are like
form-fitting they go up in yourarmpit too, and then the jacket
gets all smelly.
There are people washing theirjackets.
I don't understand if you washif you wash a jacket a few times
, it gets completely worn out.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
So I like having sleeves and I like having my
torso and I like having themseparate so that I can move
around.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
I feel like.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
I have a more form-fitting.
Maybe that's what I'm missingfrom what you're talking about.
I like the form-f, or I don'tknow what to call it.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
So, imagine this, so imagine this Imagine you've got
like a tube that goes Well.
Imagine you have like a shirtand sleeves and the armpits are
(11:21):
cut out, so there's like a hole.
Okay, but, now you adhere apiece of cloth, like basically
the way the pectoral muscle soif you think of the pectoral
muscle goes from the chest andthen it comes up over the armpit
, right, uh-huh.
So what you do is you create akind of pectoral piece of cloth
(11:43):
and a lateral piece of cloth onthe back that covers from, you
know, from the front and backcovers the armpit.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
And when you raise it , yeah, without touching it,
it's over the front.
You're talking about a pit kilt.
You're talking about an armpitkilt.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Yeah, yeah, essentially it's basically
modeled after the muscles of thearmpit right.
The lateral muscle doesn'tcover the, it doesn't touch the
armpit.
It covers the back of it andthe pectoral muscle covers the
front of it.
So this is sort of right overthat.
You add these cloths and whenyou raise your arm, those two
pieces of cloth kind of foldover and cover the armpit, so
(12:20):
you don't see the armpit whenthe arms are down.
And then when you raise yourarm they tighten right, because
you're raising it.
They become more okay, you knowtighten and that covers over
more or less the armpit.
Maybe there'd be a half inch oran inch opening.
We might see a little haircoming out.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
But that's complicated, natural, but yeah,
so it'd be.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
this is, I think, the best bet.
I think this is our best bet isis the is the kind of batman or
the, whatever you want to callit them?
The anatomical t-shirt?
We call it the anatomicalt-shirt.
Oh, muscle T.
This is the muscle T becauseit's literally following the
muscles.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
What about that surgery?
What about that surgery you canhave that turns off your sweat
glands?
Speaker 1 (13:05):
In your armpit.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Yeah, they can go in there and turn them off.
Like lasers or something Idon't know exactly, but there's
some sort of a shortcut.
It's not a good idea, becausewhat happens is your body
compensates and you startsweating out of other spots like
the people report like they'relike.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
No, my hands are like way sweatier now you can
another surgery to get rid ofthat.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
So, oh man, it's just surgeries after all the
surgeries and it's just going tobe like spraying out of one
spot on your forehead I think weshould like allow our systems
to operate again.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Zootopia we're talking about zootopia,
anti-feudalism here.
We're trying to like let ournatural you know, zootopic lives
succeed without crushing theenvironment and destroying the
environment also without doinglaundry.
Just on a basic level.
I don't want to do.
I do laundry like every maybe10 days or 14 days, and it's all
my cotton t-shirts.
If I could do half of where mycotton t-shirts two days instead
(13:59):
of one day, I would do easilylike, like, like half as much
laundry.
But I can't.
It's terrible.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
There you go.
So this is the muscle.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
So we need the muscle T.
Okay, so this is good Cause.
When we were, when we when westarted this conversation, I did
not have the muscle, I had themuscle.
The muscle T structure was onthe very edge of my imagination.
I was thinking more of thePharaoh, or the slit or the or,
like the cut open or the or theum, you know something a little
(14:30):
bit more the tunic, the tunic.
But but you know, you made me,you really pressed me with the
little caesar comment like, hey,we got to have something that
really fits our modern times,right, and, and that I.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
I appreciate that, scott, you're always pushing me
if I'm going to spend hours andhours in the gym every day,
which I definitely do.
I mean, there's an audio medium, trust me.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
But if I'm gonna do that, then I want.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
I want some form-fitting I want, I don't
want to, so this could be sowhat I'm?
Speaker 1 (14:55):
describing the muscle shirt, the muscle t, the, the
anatomical t, would beform-fitting.
It would have these, it wouldhave these sort of strips of
cloth right here.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
That would be a little bit different, but maybe
even could be a little bit tight, like it could even show off
the deltoid a little I was justgonna say people would
definitely get some with likeenhanced flaps that make like
their their pecs and shoulderslook more just, more defined,
and you're just like oh, what'sgoing on?
Speaker 1 (15:22):
I'm gonna make one of these shirts today.
I'm gonna take one of my.
I want to see this, okay, andI'm gonna and going to, but wait
, where do I?
Speaker 2 (15:29):
oh, I can cut the armpits out, that's easy, but
then I need to make these stripsthat go over the Cut to seven
hours from now when I get astring of text messages where
you're like I was wrong.
It doesn't work.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
I'm trapped, come and help me.
I'm stuck.
A terrible mistake I've becomevenom.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
It's like a venom suit.
Now I have this alter ego.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Now I think this is going to work the muscle T, and
what's interesting about this isbecause it doesn't exist, I
could sell it.
This could be a business model.
Look at that.
And because it didn't, existuntil our conversation.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
I can profit off of it, what as?
Speaker 1 (16:09):
well, ip, ip, ip.
That's not how that works.
That's not how this works.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Oh well, I'm going to mail this podcast episode to
myself in the mail, and thenit's copyrighted.
Is that how that works, I feel,like you're just playing like
childish games.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Like I touched the base first.
Therefore, that's legal Magic.
What else is related?
So what other things like this?
Obviously, our underwear getsdirty, but it's kind of the
whole point of underwear.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
My underwear never touches my armpits, so that's
not part of it okay, so you'resafe.
That's I didn't I don't pull itup that high I pull my
underwear all the way.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Oh no, yeah, I'm a college professor.
I pull it all the way up.
It touches my pocket protectorand my armpits.
Nerdy, but I, if you would havetold me that I'm a computer
science professor when I waslike 14, I would have said you
are crazy.
There's no way I'm a computerscience professor.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
You had to look up from your drawings of tunics and
muscle shirts.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
You're like, absolutely not going to happen.
Sir, I'm a genius fashiondesigner.
That's what I'm going to be.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
I'm bringing back the Pharaoh.
You just watch.
You come and see the Pharaohwhen I'm walking down the
catwalk in the Pharaoh.
Oh, a Pharaoh would walk down acatwalk because they had such
yeah, exactly, they had enormousrespect for cats.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
No, I would have never thought we can't fix
underwear.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
I will reserve judgment.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Underwear gets in touch with your crotch, it's
going to get dirty.
You wash them.
Okay, skid marks aren't goingaway, but you know.
But that's fine, becauseunderwear is so small that you
could.
I mean, if you were going towash an entire load of just
underwear, it'd be like 40 pairsof underwear.
I mean, that's like two monthsworth of underwear.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
I don't think I have it.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Who has that much underwear?
No, nobody.
But if you did want to reallypush the limits, like if we're
talking about pushing theunderwear barrier as far as it
can go, you know?
Oh, sorry, maybe I'm kind ofgoing over your head in one way,
although I think you'llunderstand it once I say it.
Do you know what limitingfactor analysis is?
Speaker 2 (18:09):
No, I think you do, I mean, I can figure Because we
all do limiting factor analysison our laundry, right?
Speaker 1 (18:14):
We think how soon do I need to do laundry?
Well, I'm out of whatever thelimiting factor is.
I'm out of socks.
I therefore have to do thewhole load of laundry.
I'm out of underwear.
I have to do the whole load oflaundry.
I'm out, right.
So so you have to like areverse bottleneck, like yes,
you have to construct your, your, your, your clothing setup so
that you have a.
(18:35):
You don't have a kind of or likea limiting factor that makes
you do laundry all the time.
Right, if you're doing laundryevery five days because you
didn't have socks.
You just buy more socks and nowsomething else can become the
limiting factor, right?
So I'm saying if underwear wasyour limiting factor and all you
had to wash was underwear, likeif you just if we just wore
underwear, if we were like justunderwear, people where everyone
(18:57):
just wore underwear constantlyand that's it, nothing else I
would call myself underwearpeople then we wouldn't have to
do laundry.
We do laundry once a month.
We do 30 pairs of underwear.
Just throw it in, you know, andthen you'd have your one or two
days of laundry underwear, likeunderwear that you have when
you're doing laundry and thenyou'd have a whole new 30 clean
true, you don't have to dolaundry once every 30 days, but
(19:17):
you're not factory.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Get all the like outer stuff towels gets
protected from and like if youjust wore underwear.
You would collect all thethings that make your regular
clothes dirty as well,throughout the day you wash
yourself off shower but youwould collect it on the.
I'm saying the underwear wouldget dirtier faster if that's all
you wore.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
You'd think you'd have to change your underwear
more than once a day.
Scott, how often do you changeyour underwear?
Speaker 2 (19:39):
I don't go out a day.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
I don't go out in only underwear, like a giant man
baby, so you think you'd haveto change your underwear more
than once a day.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
If you're going out and doing stuff in it probably I
don Like your jeans and yourshirts and stuff if you sit down
on things and, yeah, you pickup crud.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
But how often do you wash your pants?
I wash my pants like once every, maybe month.
What they're clean.
Why would I wash them?
Because you take them out andtouch things and sit on things.
This is the beauty of underwearit does.
Oh, you touch things externally, yeah, yeah, but underwear
protects your pants from gettingdirty, from touching the
interstitial zones of your body.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Yeah, and pants protect your underwear from
getting all the crud that's outon a bus stop when you sit down
on there.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
What crud is there?
What's crud?
Speaker 2 (20:25):
On a public bus stop.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Oh, I think famously there's no crud on those.
But I mean, I don't sit on thebed.
I don't sit on the bed in mypants.
Why not?
Because the pants are not thecleanest thing in the world.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
What are you talking about now, though?
Speaker 1 (20:41):
But they're not smelly, which is the key thing,
and they're not visibly dirty.
If they're not smelly and notvisibly dirty, I say fair play,
don't, don't wash, no wash.
(21:01):
That sounds like the science ofthe five second rule.
I don't know that.
That's a real bit of a five,real science.
Okay, I can tell this fivesecond rule.
I know the science of this fivesecond rule is the moisture
content of the thing droppeddetermines the length of time it
can be on the ground.
Okay, because moisture is whatactually collects the bacteria
from the ground.
So if it's a dry like saltinecracker easy 10 second rule, no
problem, you could probably getaway with 30 seconds.
Because it's so dry likesaltine cracker easy 10-second
rule, no problem, you couldprobably get away with 30
seconds.
Because it's so dry that nobacteria is going to transfer.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
I'm willing to leave that dry cracker on whatever
ground it dropped on.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
But, if you drop a flan, like a straight-up wet-ass
flan, right on the ground,you're done, because it's wet.
It's going to soak up all thebacteria, right away it
immediately, yeah, of course,yeah, done, because it's wet,
it's going to soak up all theimmediately.
Yeah, of course, yeah, so it's.
So actually, the five secondrule, this should be a whole
nother solution, this minisolution right here.
The really the five second ruleis a variable thing based on
the moisture content on thesurface, not just the moisture
(21:44):
content internally, but themoisture content on the surface
of whatever's dropped yeah, wehave a.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
We create a moisture coefficient and then we say
based on the prevalence of thiscoefficient it's a function of
the coefficient and surfaceportion of time.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Yeah, so we can call it SM, so it's F of SM or SFM SF
solutions on the multiverse.
And that's how we get right,right, exactly.
It's the surface function ofthe moisture content.
So it's sfm solutions of themultiverse, everybody.
(22:20):
So the next time you dropsomething, just remember how wet
is that thing, and then startyour clock all right.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
So, armpit, you're gonna make one of these shirts,
you're telling me today.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
I think I'm gonna make the muscles the muscle
shape.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
I want to see where there's strips over because I
will hold, will hold outjudgment.
I will reserve judgment.
I've been wrong before.
Let me see what it looks like.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
I might be like no, that looks.
I think I might have to make apicture of it first.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
You're going to have to diagram.
I mean it's going to.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
I can't imagine you just wing it and it goes perfect
.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
It sounds like it's a little bit complicated.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
It's just Just cut the armpits out and then put
covers over the front of theback, so you don't see it.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
You say that now I want to talk to Adam, who's done
the process, and see if that'show he would describe it.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
It's impossible, it's impossible.
I've tried everything.
No, no, adam, it's impossible.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
I heard you say you just cut out the flap and then
stick it onto the place, stickit on the front.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Okay, it might be hard, but I'm going to do a
graphical.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
I do want to see it.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
I'll do a graphical example of it first.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
I want to see it.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Yeah, that sounds really cool, and then we'll do,
and then we'll try to do a realone.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
I think I want to just show it to a seamstress and
be like make me this, I'll payyou a hundred dollars and then
you don't hear back from thisperson for like several weeks.
And then all of a sudden yousee their new product line for
like billions of dollars and thefashion industry is like
applauding them.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
And you're like, that was mine, it's mine and I'm
like in the and on the groundand like in the street, like
drinking like cognac from abottle, Like if only my shirt
Right.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
You can't even afford to buy your own shirt because
it's so popular and cool now.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Once I had a railroad , made it run made it race
against time.
What Once I had a railroad.
Sorry, sir, can you spare adime?
Speaker 2 (24:13):
What is this?
Speaker 1 (24:14):
That's a song from the Great Depression.
That's a famous song from theGreat Depression.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Ah sorry, I clearly have slipped on my Great
Depression famous song studyings.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
I think you last episode quoted Blues Traveler's
singer, or something that nobodyknows except for you, so I can
quote very well-known famousfolk songs.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
My music reference was within my lifetime and not
the 1930s.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Well, there's nothing wrong with a little Great
Depression ballad.
Arlo Guthrie A little lament no, not Arlo Guthrie.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
What.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Woody Guthrie.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Who's Arlo Guthrie?
Speaker 1 (24:57):
no, not arlo guthrie, what woody guthrie?
Who's arlo guthrie?
His son, who was a 60s folksinger.
But woody guthrie was the morekind of 30s and 40s.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
I didn't realize arlo guthrie was the child of
nepotism apparently yeah, he waskind of a nepo baby nepo baby
I've seen him in concert and Inamed my cat after him.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Arlo is named after arlo guthrie, but not woody nope
, nope, okay.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Well then, I made the wrong reference woody guthrie
pretend, I said that, woodyguthrie yeah amazing reference.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Good, pull scott.
That was a great one, scott.
Good, cut, not too deep, nottoo, not too shallow right right
in this spot.
Okay, so everybody keep itclimaty.
I mean, the main point of thissolution is everyone should be
thinking about everything theycan possibly do to fix the
climate.
We're, like, really in trouble.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
The ultimate thing.
I don't know that we got messedup.
It is we were sticking on theshirts a lot, but you're saying
fewer loads of laundry meansless water used.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Yes, Well, water doesn't matter.
What matters is electricity,electricity matters, yeah, what
matters matter, what matters?
Electricity electricity, itmatters.
Yeah, what matters is carbon.
I mean sure, water's fine.
Yes, okay, yes, multimodalenvironmentalism you think about
lots of things, but the keything is like if we used up a
lot of water, that wouldn't likewe'd just get more water.
But climate, the climate change, will actually make it so there
isn't enough water there toeven get.
(26:10):
It's like very bad.
And then when you don't wantany, when you do want water,
then there's flooding.
I, that's what climate changebasically causes.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Flooding Extremes and then droughts.
We don't do well with extremes.
We like that moderate middlezone.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
We're going to keep doing climate solutions I make
light of all this, but this ishorrible.
We are in trouble.
Do you know that under Biden weare the greatest oil-producing
nation, nation not just in theworld, but in the world in
history?
Yeah, america is producing moreoil by fracking and doing other
.
We are exporters of oil.
(26:45):
As much oil as america burnsevery day to run their cars and
run their everything.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
We export oil well, that's cool, we pumped out of
the ground.
Yeah, well, at least we'llnever run out of it, if you were
to try, no we if you were todesign.
You know, use more of it as itruns low.
We use more of it faster thanwe're.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
That should be you know, you know what's a good
idea?
Actually, here's an idea.
This is a really good idea.
Oh okay, there's this.
Oh my god, I just had the bestfucking solution ever.
Oh, maybe I'll do it as anotherepisode.
That's hilarious.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
That's hilarious all right, craziest idea, but we
don't have time to go into it.
Stay tuned, everybody, I'll doit.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
I'll do a bunch more climate solutions because, yeah,
things are not getting better,they're getting worse and we
like we all need to like startdoing like.
We need to like start wearingshirts with no throwing molotov
cocktails is what we start needto start doing.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
But yeah all right, everybody keep it climaty, keep
those armpits yeah, or you couldput it you know what's free you
know what is something everyonecan do.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
That's super easy.
We don't do old solutions, butI will just end with it stop
working out.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
If we stop working out, we won't sweat keep working
out.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
it's healthy.
What you can do is just thedryer actually uses way more
electricity than the washer,true?
So all you have to do is go onAmazon and buy a really nice.
They're really nice.
You can buy these strings thatgo across your laundry room and
you pull it across and you canhang with hangers, hang all your
clothes and then just leave thedoor open in your laundry room.
(28:14):
They'll dry over like a day ortwo and then you just take them
all down and and fold them andthe cloths, the cloths a little
stiff.
If it's really stiff, throw itall in the laundry, in the dryer
at the end, put it on a coldcycle and just have it like
fluff it up with some manual dry.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
I mean like dry your clothes without.
If you do that, it actuallymakes a significant difference
to your to to like the energyload of the honestly, though, I
think that the better appeal forthat is that it makes a
significant difference to yourlike energy bills like oh yeah,
yeah, you'll save a lot of moneyrunning a dryer versus drying
your clothes by you know theslow way.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Yeah, massive impact on the electric bill and if you
have to, if you have to use thedryer, try to use it between 10
am and 4 pm.
That's six hours of drying.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
That's a lot.
Well, just try to use it inthat window.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Just do what you need everybody.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Don't use that whole time if you don't need it.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Because that's when no one's using electricity,
because everyone's at work andthere's very little electricity
used, and so the load is low tobe used, and so the load is low,
and so a lot of that energy isactually alternative energy
Solar and wind is being used atthat time.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
And the more energy you save with your dryer
everybody, the more energy youcan use in Bitcoin mining.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
So we think that.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
That's a good what?
Oh wait, you're giving meeyeballs.
Don't do that, Don't do that.
No Bitcoin mining.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
You could actually limit your use of ChatGPT too.
Actually, I've heard that usingChatGPT every time you hit
enter in ChatGPT Makes youdumber.
Does it make you dumber?
No, it doesn't make you dumber.
It uses a ton of electricity.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
I don't know the exact amount but it's a lot.
I think it might make youdumber, I don't know.
I'll hold out on that one.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Other things are making me dumber, like watching
too much TV.
Okay, everybody, thanks.
Keep it climaty.
Do your part.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
Also throw Molotov cocktails.
Thanks for joining in.
Oh, don't do that part.
Yes, don't do that, we didn'tencourage that at all.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Property violence is merited, oh boy, not human
violence, don't hurt anyone, butproperty violence definitely
merited at this point.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
All right, well welcome.
This has been an anarchism fromthe multiverse.
This is not anarchism.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
This is literally the solution to solving, to not
having anarchy.
Anarchy will emerge if we don'tstop fossil fuel crap.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
We must use sensitive , targeted things like Molotov
cocktails.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Yeah, or maybe Molotov cocktails is the wrong
implementation.
Things which have famouslynever gotten out of hand.
But definitely property damageis merited at this point.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
You're just saying Viva La Revolution.
Yeah, c, c, no big deal, justViva, viva La.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Revolution, la Revolution.
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
All right, everybody have a a good one.
See you next time.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Thank you.
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