March 31, 2025 • 29 mins
Would you know what to do if someone stopped breathing? In this episode of Spotlight Houston, host Blanca Quezada talks with Gail Gould, also known as the CPR and Safety Lady. Gail is a nationally certified CPR and first aid instructor who has spent more than 30 years teaching life-saving skills to over 10,000 people in Houston and beyond.
Gail shares how she started her career in CPR training, why she’s so passionate about emergency response education, and how everyone—including kids, parents, teachers, and businesses—can benefit from learning CPR. She explains the key difference between a heart attack and cardiac arrest, and why acting fast with CPR is critical in saving a life.
Gail also talks about real stories from her students who used their CPR and choking relief training in real emergencies. She shares how CPR can help people of all ages, including infants and older adults, and even pets. She also discusses safety tips to help prevent emergencies from happening in the first place—like food safety for children and water safety around pools.
Other topics include how the Good Samaritan law protects people who give CPR, what to do in cases of severe bleeding using Stop the Bleed techniques, how CPR is taught in schools, and the importance of EKG screenings for young athletes.
To learn more about Gail Gould and how to take a CPR or safety training class, visit her website at https://www.cprandsafetylady.com or call 713.364.9438.
Key Topics Covered:
- The difference between heart attacks and cardiac arrest
- Why fast action is critical in an emergency
- CPR training for adults, teens, and children
- Choking relief for infants, kids, and adults
- Life-saving techniques for pets
- What to do in bleeding emergencies (Stop the Bleed)
- How CPR training saves lives: real student stories
- Good Samaritan law protections
- Risk factors like loneliness and safety tips to prevent emergencies
- EKG screenings and hidden heart conditions in young athletes
- How to get CPR certified in Houston
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Heart attack and cardiac arrest are not the same thing. A
person having a heart attack does not need CPR. A
person having a heart attack is conscious. They are breathing.
They may be experiencing respiratory distress, but they are conscious.
They are breathing. They do not need CPR. They need
immediate medical attention for within the first hour of the
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onset of their symptoms. That means someone needs to call 911.
A person in cardiac arrest is not conscious. They
are not breathing. They need immediate CPR in early
defibrillation. So heart attack and cardiac arrest are
not the same thing.
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Thank Thank you for joining us for another episode of spotlight Houston, where we bring
you the best people, places, and events in Greater Houston. In this
episode, we're diving into an important topic that could save lives,
literally. Host Blanca Quesada is joined by Gail Gould, who's
also known as a CPR and safety lady. Gail is a nationally
certified CPR and first aid instructor with more than thirty years of
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experience and a passion for helping people feel confident during emergencies.
Together, they talk about how CPR works, why it's important for everyone
to learn it, and what to do when someone is choking or bleeding.
Gail also shares powerful stories from her students, tips on keeping
kids safe, and even how CPR can help pets. This
episode is packed with helpful information for families, teachers, and anyone who
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wants to be ready in a crisis. This is episode one thirty one with an
original air date of Monday, 03/31/2025.
Spotlight Houston is brought to you by Storyzone Media. And now here's your
host, Blanca Quesada. Hi, and welcome to Spotlight
Houston. It's great to have y'all back. I'm Blanca
Quesada. And today, I I was thinking,
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do you really know how to save the life of someone having a
heart attack? I wouldn't know what to do, but, you
know, of course, I've seen movies and TV shows
where somebody is performing CPR, but I don't know how
to do that. And the other thing is I've never seen
someone having a heart attack, so I wouldn't know what was
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going on either. And and and what to even
do and be afraid to even touch the person.
So it I think it could be a very scary situation
to be in. And and also making that
incredible decision to try and help,
and also at the same time, be afraid of doing it
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because we may make make it more difficult or
actually harm the person. I don't know. I think I
would feel very helpless. So today,
I've invited Gail Gould. She is a
CPR and safety lady, and I'm so happy that she's here
because she has been a professional with over thirty
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years of experience in CPR and safety
training. And I believe she's trained over
10,000 people or more than 10,000 over the years.
And she'll be sharing her experience in life saving techniques.
And that it'll help us make that life changing decision
comfortably and and in any emergency that
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we may find ourselves. So, Gail, welcome to the show.
It's great to have you. Thank you for inviting me to be here, Block.
I'm so, so glad that you asked me so I can share some of
my wisdom and expertise on this subject. And you're absolutely right.
Less than 50% of Americans know how to perform CPR. Not
very many people know how to perform CPR. And a
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little under five hundred thousand people each
year here in The United States will suffer a sudden
cardiac arrest where they need CPR. So it's a leading cause of
death. The American Heart Association estimates, Blanca, between a
hundred thousand and two hundred thousand lives could be saved
if more people stepped up to the plate to provide CPR.
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So I always tell people in my class, welcome to class. You'll be able to
join the army of people who are able to step up and save a life.
Now you brought up something very important here that I do wanna distinguish the difference.
Heart attack and cardiac arrest are not the same thing. A
person having a heart attack does not need CPR. A
person having a heart attack is conscious. They are breathing.
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They may be experiencing respiratory distress, but they are
conscious. They are breathing. They do not need CPR. They
need immediate medical attention for within the first
hour of the onset of their symptoms. That means someone needs to call
911. A person in cardiac arrest is not
conscious. They are not breathing. They need immediate
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CPR and early defibrillation. So heart attack
and cardiac arrest are not the same thing. Heart attack is
the main reason that causes adults to go into cardiac
arrest. Yeah. I think the media has kind of confused people and
they'll call it a heart attack, but basically a heart attack, the person
is still conscious and a person who's conscious of breathing does not need
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CPR. Oh, okay. Thank you for clarifying that because
in a situation like that, it's like, okay, what do I do? What do I
do? You get all excited and scared and you're
really not thinking about the symptoms that the
person has. You just want to maybe get into action and
do something, or you may retreat back and
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be afraid to do anything because you might do more harm
than good. Well, I'm also glad you brought that up because we tell people
all the time, Blanca, do not worry about hurting the victim. The
most harmful thing you could do is do nothing at all. So do not worry
about hurting the victim. When you're administering CPR, chest impressions,
you may hear things pop, crack. Your hands may feel like they're
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sinking, and do not let that deter you. It's very common to
crack ribs, crack the stardom, but do not let that deter
you. The worst thing, the wrong thing for people to do
is go run for help. Yeah. So it's call 911.
Right? You call 911 immediately, and now they can
actually give you instructions over the phone how to perform hand
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sanitizer CPR, which is CPR with no breathing. But what you
don't wanna do is go run for help because as you're running for
help, the person's brain is starting to die. The brain can
only go around four minutes without
a continuous supply of blood and oxygen before it starts to die. Somebody's
been laying there ten minutes. No breathing up blood flow. Brain death is
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certain. So you don't wanna run for help. You wanna immediately call
911 and start chest compressions because those chest compressions
are what gonna it's gonna push the blood up to the brain, and that's the
blood and oxygen up to the brain. That's what's gonna hopefully keep the person's
brain alive until it gets help arrives. Yeah.
Another concern that some people that may know CPR
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may not want to help because they're afraid
that, you know, something terrible is going to
happen and they're going to get sued for trying to
help. I'm glad you brought that up because that is an important consideration.
In fact, American Heart Association, I've recently did a survey and they
asked people, like, what is the main reason you don't wanna give others
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CPR? And the majority people answer was fear of
litigation, but it's a no brainer because you're covered
under the Good Samaritan law. You act in a reasonable improved manner.
You act in good faith. You're not trying to do the conversation. You're covered under
the Good Samaritan law, so you really don't have to worry about being successfully
sued. Now, if you said to give the person a tracheotomy where you make a
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whole, that's a whole other thing, or you pound on their
chest, like you see on TV in the movies, kind of precordial
thump, that's not reasonable and prudent, but just as long as you act in a
reasonable and prudent manner, object of faith, not in charge of the
conversation, you are covered under the good Samaritan
law. One of the cool things about social media is I had someone reach out
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to me three, four years ago from Lithuania, and she
was on my social my Instagram account, which is the CPR and safety lady. She
said in Lithuania, you have to show proof of a CPR
first aid card in order to get a driver's license. Wow. That's
great. It is good, but not here in United States. Now 27
states have passed legislation that requires all high
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school seniors to take a CPR class before they can graduate,
a thirty minute CPR class. And, so that's good. I mean,
it'll train thousands and thousands of teenagers to be able
to join the army of good Samaritans who are able to step up and save
a life. Well, Gail, thank you. Thank you so much for
mentioning the law a little bit ago. And, because I this is
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the first time I've heard of that. Oh, really? Oh, yeah. Yeah. I'd never heard
of that. No one would wanna do it otherwise. Yeah. No. I would
probably stand back and be afraid to do anything.
But now that I know, it certainly makes a difference. Before
we get more into the show, I just wanna let people
know that you've been doing this for over thirty
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years. You have a lot of experience in training,
and you'll be sharing a lot more with us. And
so we can take a lot of information
from you. But why did you get into
CPR training? How did you even become the CPR and
safety lady? Well, I started CPR training thirty
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five years ago, and I just finished graduate school
at University of Houston in 1989. And
I have a graduate degree in exercise exercise science
and health promotion. And I'd just gotten married. So I
decided that I wanted to try and start my own business. And,
this was back in the day, 1989, where you could actually call people on the
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phone and speak to people on the phone. You did not have to email
them. And I remember sitting in my office on the Second
Floor, and I just cold call people. I'd say, are you interested? When
I say people, I'm talking about corporations, oil and gas companies,
engineering firms, Fortune 500 companies. And I'd say, are you
interested in tobacco cessation? They kinda go, well, maybe
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weight management, stress management. Then I would say, are
you interested in CPR first aid? Everybody said yes.
Everybody wanted CPR first aid. So this is, you know,
1989 and Chevron has been my client for over twenty
years. Bechtel has been my client probably for twenty five
years. And that's when I started with them was way, way back.
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And, and so kind of started off slow and then it just
kind of grew over the years. And then I became the CPR and safety
lady. When my son was born twenty one years
ago, when I was 49 years old, my husband and I
adopted a newborn baby. It took us eight and a half years
to find him. And boy, once he came, I thought to myself, nothing's
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going to happen to him. Nothing's going to get him on my way. So eight
and a half years is a long time to wait for a baby. And that's
when I really delved into pediatric emergencies.
And I really started focusing because, you know, blood, it's best to never
need CPR in the first place. Right. And then things we can all
do to reduce the risk of needing CPR. For instance,
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with kids, don't give your young children under the age of four foods they can
choke on. If you have a swimming pool in your backyard, make
certain you have two fences, one around the yard, one around the swimming
pool. Most toddlers drown in backyard residential pools.
Don't be like my neighbor. I know. Put your toddler in
your lap and drive around with your child in your car, in the
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in your lap, in the front seat of the car. Very dangerous thing to
do. So and with adults, heart attack is the main
reason that adults go into cardiac risk. So, you know, don't use
any kind of tobacco. Manage your blood pressure. Reduce your cholesterol.
If physically fit, even just a modest weight loss could have a significant impact
on your health. And the one risk factor that most people don't know about
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is loneliness. People who are lonely, people who feel
socially isolated from others around them or are more likely to
die from a heart attack. So feeling socially and emotionally connected
to others around them is a huge, really important risk factor
for heart disease. And what's interesting is some of these initial studies
done on loneliness were actually done here in Houston back in the nineteen
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eighties, funded by some wealthy Houstonians like Gerald Hines and some
others. They're actually done by a childhood friend of mine who's now a
famous cardiologist, New York best time seller seller.
So, yeah, that that I think that's really interesting. It's a major risk
factor. So it's best to never need CPAP in the first place. Yeah. And
another misconception is that it's mostly the
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elderly people that that that get going to cardiac
arrest or have a heart attack. But we can't
assume that because we've heard of teenagers,
young people having young Young people are not having heart attacks.
What happens to young people very often are they have these
abnormal arrhythmias that they don't know what they're doing. Like for instance,
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in August of this year, '20 this year, 2024,
there was a 14 year old at Marshall Middle School,
HIC Marshall Middle School, who went into cardiac arrest in the
gym of Marshall Middle School. And, it's unclear as to whether he
received CPR. What is very clear when they arrived with the AED,
the battery was dead when he died. Horrible,
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tragic story. Most likely what happened to him, he had an
abnormal arrhythmia he was born with, didn't know about it, and that's what
happened. Same thing happened to LeBron James' son. His son was
playing basketball at University of Southern California two years
ago, went into cardiac arrest. Obviously, University of Southern
California has an excellent emergency action plan, and they saved
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him. And that's how he discovered he had this abnormal arrhythmia. It was
kinda weird because LeBron Jameson, Brian James, he's an elite
athlete. I'm sure he's had numerous EKGs, but he had what's called
intermittent arrhythmia and the arrhythmia did not show up in
EKG. But, it happened at cheerleader at Katie Taylor High
School two summers ago. Same thing happened to her. In
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fact, so many kids block have gone into cardiac arrest
at Katie Independent School District. They purchased their
own EKG machines now and they're screening kids
throughout the district. Wow. I didn't know
that. That's And I I think Alief Independent School District
also has EKG machines. Yeah. My son had two EKGs. One,
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he was 13, one when he was 19, and thank goodness he came out
clean by times. But I know the guy that does these screening, Scott Stevens,
and he says usually like, when my son was screened two years ago in Aleve,
Four Hundred kids got screened with EKG that day. Eight needed further testing.
That's about two percent. Wow. Wow. Well,
kids need to get that done as well. It's so so
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it's so important. It's on the sports physical, and
someone's parents opt out of it because they think, oh, they're a teenager. They
don't need an EKG, but they really do. Right. Twenty three
thousand teenagers this year will go into sudden cardiac arrest,
and about ninety two hundred of them are sport are athletes.
Yeah. And even older people, but they're
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still young. Maybe they're in their forties or thirties, fifties
who have problems. If I know I've met people whose kids
were teenagers fainted a couple times, and, yeah, they took them to
cardiologist to make certain that they didn't have a problem with their heart. But
one in three hundred student athletes has an undetected heart problem.
So you're absolutely right. It's not just old out of shape people this happens to.
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Yeah. It definitely happens to young people as well. And that's why all schools
in Texas are required to have AEDs, automated external
to shareholders, and they use them. HISD after that unfortunate
death in August, their lawyers got involved. They had to fuss
up. A 70, their eighties were nonworking.
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Yeah. Have you found yourself in a situation where
you've had to use your skills? I have. I have. I've
administered choking relief, also known as the
Heimlich maneuver to my son twice and once to a stranger.
And I've attended I think I've had four people pass out
during CPR training. They didn't stop breathing, but I had a pregnant
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woman. This was so scary. A pregnant woman fifteen
to seventeen years ago. I swear, I think she was doing, like, three
days. I mean, she was so pregnant and she passed out during CPR
training and everybody in the classroom got up and ran out of the room like
they were running a race. I think they thought she was gonna deliver a baby
and they wanna give her privacy. Yeah. So I called somebody back in because she
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was very large. She was in the chair and I got her on the floor
and thank God she was breathing. I was just like, I was so and she
was breathing. So we called she woke up after about thirty, forty
seconds. I've had four people pass out during CPR
training in the past thirty five years. Four people. Yeah.
Wow. I that's amazing. That's amazing. But I
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guess after thirty years working on this training
and you would encounter something like this. Blanca,
I love what I do. It's very gratifying. I get
couple emails, phone calls every year. Oh my
goodness. The thing you showed me how to do, I had to save my child
or my husband or my coworker or my friend. It's
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usually with choking relief, the high molecular maneuver. Many
more people choke than go into cardiac arrest. So, and then
five years ago, I met a loving Houston mom
who lost her infant to choking. She was feeding her eight
month old and the eight month old started choking. She had no idea what
to do. So she handed the baby to her husband, ran for
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help. Mistake number one, by the time she got back home, her baby
had died. Just a whole Oh, how sad. Very sad. She
and I became, we became good friends. And, even though we're from
different generations, different cultures, and about a year after that
happened, she called me and she said, I
need to take a CPR class. I'm pregnant again.
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So I was so proud of her. That had to be so hard for her
to take a CPR class because Yeah. She knew yeah. She known what to do.
Her baby would still be here. But she knows as we are people of faith,
They're very brave, courageous people. Now she is a beautiful
baby girl. Yeah. Oh, thank goodness. Thank
goodness. Yes. It was, it all turned out okay. But I'm so sorry. She
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had to go through that experience. Just a horrible. Houston
Chronicle did the big story on what happened to her and then
how we, our relationship, how we sort of committed this, the relationship between
the two of us. It was a really sweet, it was a really sweet story.
And I'm sure you've probably I mean, after training 10,000
people, you've probably gotten so many testimonials
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about how you helped them in situations that they found
themselves in. I have. In fact, this is about three years
ago. It was Sunday morning, 8AM. Someone texted me
a video. I was like, who sent me a video at 08:00 on Sunday morning?
And it was someone who'd been in my class the year before Blanca, and she
was crying in the video. And she was like, thank
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God I took the CPR class from you last year. My nine
month old was choking. I think he was either nine months or a year choking
on a piece of nectarine. It was a hard piece of nectarine. She
said my husband had no idea what to do. She said, had I not taken
the class, I would have no clue what to do. She said, so thank you
so much. I'm so grateful that I knew how to save my child. Yeah.
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But you also train people or have courses in
situation where someone is bleeding. Yes. There there is a
relatively new course called stop the bleed, and I'm a stop
the bleed instructor. And, I think the statistic is
thirty five percent of all prehospital deaths are due to uncontrolled
bleeding. So today, especially, we all need to know
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how to control life threatening bleeding. And, you
basically teach people how to control bleeding either with pressure,
packing wound, or using a tourniquet. In fact, I'm doing a stop the
bleed training at a church in two weeks. Yeah.
And that's something that we can use if we'd come up on an accident or
something. An accident. Or just in your kitchen.
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Yeah. I know. I've sliced my finger with a mandolin a couple of years ago.
Oh my goodness. I threw it out. I got rid of that happened. I was
like, I mean, there was, I don't like those things. It was, there was
some pretty major bleeding going on, but you know, I met a
preschool teacher about a year ago. She told me, she goes, I
she was in one of my classes. She goes, I was in Downtown Houston,
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in Midtown Houston at one in the morning. I was like, nothing good happens after
midnight. And she said, the guy next to me got shot. She
said, and no one was helping. And she said, so I took his t shirt
and packed it into the wound and just apply pressure to the fleece
arrive. I was like, that was so nice of you. But yeah, I mean, oh
my goodness. You only have to watch your news for five minutes or read the
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newspaper. Right. For five minutes and and see that
people are being shot. And just yesterday, three
teenage girls tried to stab their mom because the mom turned off
Wi Fi. Yes. Unthinkable. Unthinkable. I just
I was kinda shocked when I shocked but not shocked. But
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So well, then you've
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got a lot of trainings going on different things for
different situations, but it's helped a lot of
people. So thank you for doing that and for doing it for so
long. So do you work with the Heart
Association or the Red Cross as well? I do. I I
work with, I don't work for them, but, you know, I'm part of their
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committees. I'm on one committee with American Heart
Association. I've been involved and volunteer with American Heart for
thirty five years. I'm an American Red Cross instructor. I'm
an American Safety Health Institute, a medic instructor.
And then I was a national safety instructor, National Safety Council. So
those are the four nationally or internationally recognized organizations
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that provide CPR training. Some instructor, But the courses I most
often do now are American Heart Association
and American Safety Health Institute, ASHIA MEDIC. Those are the
courses that train a lot of the first responders. A lot of first
responders, manufacturing facilities, you use ASHIE meta
courses, and I've been real happy with them. But in fact, I'm getting
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ready to be the chair of a southwest committee
for American Heart Association. So they'll that they'll but I've been
in several different roles for the American Heart, but I don't work for them. It's
just volunteer positions. So have you ever taught
teenagers as well? Have I ever what? Taught teenagers?
Oh my gosh. All the time. I love I trained lots and lots of Girl
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Scouts. And in fact, when my son was in middle school in Spring
Branch ISD, they asked the parents to
come teach electives. So I thought, okay, I'll teach CPR.
So I taught CPR every week for three years
to the sixth, seventh, and eighth graders. I loved it. It was so much
fun. It was so much fun. And I, I thought middle school for my
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son was gonna be a black hole. It was just a wonderful experience. He
had, I had a wonderful time. He had a wonderful time, but I love teaching
teenagers. Yeah. Because they're so, especially middle schoolers, there's,
they're so funny. Yeah. And I'm sure they have thousands of questions.
Oh, they had great questions. Excellent questions.
But, yeah, I I love teaching teenagers. It's so much fun. We
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usually say about 10 and older. 10 is about the youngest you should
really have someone take a CPR class because under that, they're not strong
enough to do the chest compressions, and they can't sit through a two to
four hour class. Right. But now and in fact, I had
a mom bring her because he's a freshman, which is,
I guess, maybe 14 or 15 years old, brought her son
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to my CPR class about three weeks ago. I bet he was very
interested. Oh, he was he was just great.
He was just great. He was just super mature, very interested.
And, yeah, it was just it was great, but I love teaching teenagers.
Yeah. Do you work with community centers as well? I do
sometimes. I do sometimes work with community centers. Absolutely. I
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have in fact, it's not a community. It's a library. Couple years
ago, I did a couple of CPR demonstrations
at several libraries throughout the city of Houston. And, but,
yeah, I work with corporations, schools,
medical offices, dental offices, governmental offices.
I used to, and I'm not sure who's doing it now, but do a lot
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of CPR training for social security offices here in Houston.
Wow. That's important because they have a very stressful
job. Oh, my gosh. Very stressful. And there's the
lobby is just packed with people, just packed with tons
and tons of people. Yeah. Have you ever had a unique
experience? A u unique experience teaching? No.
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Well, teaching or having to use your skills. Well,
yeah. One of one of the good stories when my son
was about 11, so maybe 10 or 11, about ten years
ago, he was shopping with me at H E B. And all of a
sudden, I saw him talking to someone. He saw a friend of his,
and they started throwing jelly beans each other's
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mouths. So I was like, what are y'all doing? Next thing I look, my
son's my son's face turned beet red, just beet red, then
immediately turned very pale. Jelly beans stuck in his airway.
So right there in the bread aisle at H and B at I-ten in Bunker
Hill, I'm giving my son a domino crust. And the jelly bean
came flying out of his mouth and there was all this commotion. And we just
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kind of went on with our shopping. So I was like, don't do that again.
And he used to get really upset with me and said, you're violating my privacy
by sharing that story. And then he just kind of got used to it. Yeah,
no. I mean, that's kind of, it teaches kids and
people to not do dumb things like that because they
do. Oh, well, you I mean, a 10 year old or 11
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Yeah. Boy. Boy is, you know, gonna throw a jar.
Yeah. And I also recently heard that you also do
training to perform CPR on your pets.
Yes. I mean, I'm not an expert in veterinary CPR, but
it's somewhat similar. But the main thing that happens to pets
is choking. And that's pretty simple. It's almost the same thing you
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do to a human. But with dogs, it depends on
the size of the dog, but you just kind of put your hand
right beneath sort of, sort of beneath their, where their elbow is on
their front leg and you compress like you went on a human.
Interesting. I'd never heard of that before. Well, yeah. But the
main thing happens to dogs is choking. Dogs are always eating
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crazy stuff. Right. The bones and stuff. One of my dogs
a few years ago, dug his head deep into the trash can
and ate a bag of cherry pits. I've been eating cherries,
and he ate a bag of cherry pits. And I didn't know it till I
saw took him outside to go to the bathroom, and all the cherry pits came
out in his Oh, no. That wasn't choppy, but I had to call poison
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control. Yeah. Straight pits contain arsenic. Oh, I didn't know
that. Well, I didn't know it either until I looked it up. I'm sorry. I
hope he didn't need anything caustic. And I was like, oh my god. So they
told me just to watch him. Yeah. Browsy. But Yeah. Yeah. I
mean, things happen to pets too. I mean, pets.
Yeah. Yeah. Well, do you happen to have a website or a
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phone number where we can get more information or go to My my
website is c p r and safety lady dot com.
And I'm on Instagram at t h e c p
r and safety lady, and I'm very active on Instagram. I have a
nice little community over there, but I would love to
provide classes for anybody who's interested. And so, you know,
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my phone number is (713)
364-9438. But the best way to
reach me is my website,
cprandsafety80.com. And there are lots of testimonials
on my website. Yeah. You have a blog as well. Yes. I have
a blog. I have testimonials, and I'm real proud of my website.
Can you be reached through your email? Yes. My email
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is cprandsafetylady@gmail.com. Great.
Great. Well, we've kind of running out of time here, so
I would love to thank you so much for taking the time
to join me and letting us know that we can go out there and help
people with confidence and knowing that
we can learn how to do something to not
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panic and be able to save someone's life. They
have a life. Absolutely. Every everybody should take the CPR class.
Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah. Two hours out of your
two hours out of your day. That's it. Yeah. No. It's it. What
you've given us is invaluable information. Thank you so much,
Blanca. It was really a pleasure speaking with you. Yeah. You need to come
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back. She just I'd love to come by. Ask me anytime. Oh. And of
course, thank you all for joining me. And please send
me your comments or any interview
ideas if you'd like. And I'm trying to reach out
there to you guys so that you can be just as informed as
I'm getting informed. So thank you again. Thank you so
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much, Brock.
Heart attack and cardiac arrest are not the same thing. A
person having a heart attack does not need CPR. A
person having a heart attack is conscious. They are breathing.
They may be experiencing respiratory distress, but they are conscious.
They are breathing. They do not need CPR. They need
immediate medical attention for within the first hour of the
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onset of their symptoms. That means someone needs to call 911.
A person in cardiac arrest is not conscious. They
are not breathing. They need immediate CPR in early
defibrillation. So heart attack and cardiac arrest are
not the same thing.
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Thank Thank you for joining us for another episode of spotlight Houston, where we bring
you the best people, places, and events in Greater Houston. In this
episode, we're diving into an important topic that could save lives,
literally. Host Blanca Quesada is joined by Gail Gould, who's
also known as a CPR and safety lady. Gail is a nationally
certified CPR and first aid instructor with more than thirty years of
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experience and a passion for helping people feel confident during emergencies.
Together, they talk about how CPR works, why it's important for everyone
to learn it, and what to do when someone is choking or bleeding.
Gail also shares powerful stories from her students, tips on keeping
kids safe, and even how CPR can help pets. This
episode is packed with helpful information for families, teachers, and anyone who
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wants to be ready in a crisis. This is episode one thirty one with an
original air date of Monday, 03/31/2025.
Spotlight Houston is brought to you by Storyzone Media. And now here's your
host, Blanca Quesada. Hi, and welcome to Spotlight
Houston. It's great to have y'all back. I'm Blanca
Quesada. And today, I I was thinking,
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do you really know how to save the life of someone having a
heart attack? I wouldn't know what to do, but, you
know, of course, I've seen movies and TV shows
where somebody is performing CPR, but I don't know how
to do that. And the other thing is I've never seen
someone having a heart attack, so I wouldn't know what was
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going on either. And and and what to even
do and be afraid to even touch the person.
So it I think it could be a very scary situation
to be in. And and also making that
incredible decision to try and help,
and also at the same time, be afraid of doing it
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because we may make make it more difficult or
actually harm the person. I don't know. I think I
would feel very helpless. So today,
I've invited Gail Gould. She is a
CPR and safety lady, and I'm so happy that she's here
because she has been a professional with over thirty
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years of experience in CPR and safety
training. And I believe she's trained over
10,000 people or more than 10,000 over the years.
And she'll be sharing her experience in life saving techniques.
And that it'll help us make that life changing decision
comfortably and and in any emergency that
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we may find ourselves. So, Gail, welcome to the show.
It's great to have you. Thank you for inviting me to be here, Block.
I'm so, so glad that you asked me so I can share some of
my wisdom and expertise on this subject. And you're absolutely right.
Less than 50% of Americans know how to perform CPR. Not
very many people know how to perform CPR. And a
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little under five hundred thousand people each
year here in The United States will suffer a sudden
cardiac arrest where they need CPR. So it's a leading cause of
death. The American Heart Association estimates, Blanca, between a
hundred thousand and two hundred thousand lives could be saved
if more people stepped up to the plate to provide CPR.
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So I always tell people in my class, welcome to class. You'll be able to
join the army of people who are able to step up and save a life.
Now you brought up something very important here that I do wanna distinguish the difference.
Heart attack and cardiac arrest are not the same thing. A
person having a heart attack does not need CPR. A
person having a heart attack is conscious. They are breathing.
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They may be experiencing respiratory distress, but they are
conscious. They are breathing. They do not need CPR. They
need immediate medical attention for within the first
hour of the onset of their symptoms. That means someone needs to call
911. A person in cardiac arrest is not
conscious. They are not breathing. They need immediate
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CPR and early defibrillation. So heart attack
and cardiac arrest are not the same thing. Heart attack is
the main reason that causes adults to go into cardiac
arrest. Yeah. I think the media has kind of confused people and
they'll call it a heart attack, but basically a heart attack, the person
is still conscious and a person who's conscious of breathing does not need
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CPR. Oh, okay. Thank you for clarifying that because
in a situation like that, it's like, okay, what do I do? What do I
do? You get all excited and scared and you're
really not thinking about the symptoms that the
person has. You just want to maybe get into action and
do something, or you may retreat back and
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be afraid to do anything because you might do more harm
than good. Well, I'm also glad you brought that up because we tell people
all the time, Blanca, do not worry about hurting the victim. The
most harmful thing you could do is do nothing at all. So do not worry
about hurting the victim. When you're administering CPR, chest impressions,
you may hear things pop, crack. Your hands may feel like they're
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sinking, and do not let that deter you. It's very common to
crack ribs, crack the stardom, but do not let that deter
you. The worst thing, the wrong thing for people to do
is go run for help. Yeah. So it's call 911.
Right? You call 911 immediately, and now they can
actually give you instructions over the phone how to perform hand
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sanitizer CPR, which is CPR with no breathing. But what you
don't wanna do is go run for help because as you're running for
help, the person's brain is starting to die. The brain can
only go around four minutes without
a continuous supply of blood and oxygen before it starts to die. Somebody's
been laying there ten minutes. No breathing up blood flow. Brain death is
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certain. So you don't wanna run for help. You wanna immediately call
911 and start chest compressions because those chest compressions
are what gonna it's gonna push the blood up to the brain, and that's the
blood and oxygen up to the brain. That's what's gonna hopefully keep the person's
brain alive until it gets help arrives. Yeah.
Another concern that some people that may know CPR
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may not want to help because they're afraid
that, you know, something terrible is going to
happen and they're going to get sued for trying to
help. I'm glad you brought that up because that is an important consideration.
In fact, American Heart Association, I've recently did a survey and they
asked people, like, what is the main reason you don't wanna give others
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CPR? And the majority people answer was fear of
litigation, but it's a no brainer because you're covered
under the Good Samaritan law. You act in a reasonable improved manner.
You act in good faith. You're not trying to do the conversation. You're covered under
the Good Samaritan law, so you really don't have to worry about being successfully
sued. Now, if you said to give the person a tracheotomy where you make a
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whole, that's a whole other thing, or you pound on their
chest, like you see on TV in the movies, kind of precordial
thump, that's not reasonable and prudent, but just as long as you act in a
reasonable and prudent manner, object of faith, not in charge of the
conversation, you are covered under the good Samaritan
law. One of the cool things about social media is I had someone reach out
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to me three, four years ago from Lithuania, and she
was on my social my Instagram account, which is the CPR and safety lady. She
said in Lithuania, you have to show proof of a CPR
first aid card in order to get a driver's license. Wow. That's
great. It is good, but not here in United States. Now 27
states have passed legislation that requires all high
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school seniors to take a CPR class before they can graduate,
a thirty minute CPR class. And, so that's good. I mean,
it'll train thousands and thousands of teenagers to be able
to join the army of good Samaritans who are able to step up and save
a life. Well, Gail, thank you. Thank you so much for
mentioning the law a little bit ago. And, because I this is
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the first time I've heard of that. Oh, really? Oh, yeah. Yeah. I'd never heard
of that. No one would wanna do it otherwise. Yeah. No. I would
probably stand back and be afraid to do anything.
But now that I know, it certainly makes a difference. Before
we get more into the show, I just wanna let people
know that you've been doing this for over thirty
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years. You have a lot of experience in training,
and you'll be sharing a lot more with us. And
so we can take a lot of information
from you. But why did you get into
CPR training? How did you even become the CPR and
safety lady? Well, I started CPR training thirty
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five years ago, and I just finished graduate school
at University of Houston in 1989. And
I have a graduate degree in exercise exercise science
and health promotion. And I'd just gotten married. So I
decided that I wanted to try and start my own business. And,
this was back in the day, 1989, where you could actually call people on the
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phone and speak to people on the phone. You did not have to email
them. And I remember sitting in my office on the Second
Floor, and I just cold call people. I'd say, are you interested? When
I say people, I'm talking about corporations, oil and gas companies,
engineering firms, Fortune 500 companies. And I'd say, are you
interested in tobacco cessation? They kinda go, well, maybe
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weight management, stress management. Then I would say, are
you interested in CPR first aid? Everybody said yes.
Everybody wanted CPR first aid. So this is, you know,
1989 and Chevron has been my client for over twenty
years. Bechtel has been my client probably for twenty five
years. And that's when I started with them was way, way back.
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And, and so kind of started off slow and then it just
kind of grew over the years. And then I became the CPR and safety
lady. When my son was born twenty one years
ago, when I was 49 years old, my husband and I
adopted a newborn baby. It took us eight and a half years
to find him. And boy, once he came, I thought to myself, nothing's
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going to happen to him. Nothing's going to get him on my way. So eight
and a half years is a long time to wait for a baby. And that's
when I really delved into pediatric emergencies.
And I really started focusing because, you know, blood, it's best to never
need CPR in the first place. Right. And then things we can all
do to reduce the risk of needing CPR. For instance,
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with kids, don't give your young children under the age of four foods they can
choke on. If you have a swimming pool in your backyard, make
certain you have two fences, one around the yard, one around the swimming
pool. Most toddlers drown in backyard residential pools.
Don't be like my neighbor. I know. Put your toddler in
your lap and drive around with your child in your car, in the
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in your lap, in the front seat of the car. Very dangerous thing to
do. So and with adults, heart attack is the main
reason that adults go into cardiac risk. So, you know, don't use
any kind of tobacco. Manage your blood pressure. Reduce your cholesterol.
If physically fit, even just a modest weight loss could have a significant impact
on your health. And the one risk factor that most people don't know about
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is loneliness. People who are lonely, people who feel
socially isolated from others around them or are more likely to
die from a heart attack. So feeling socially and emotionally connected
to others around them is a huge, really important risk factor
for heart disease. And what's interesting is some of these initial studies
done on loneliness were actually done here in Houston back in the nineteen
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eighties, funded by some wealthy Houstonians like Gerald Hines and some
others. They're actually done by a childhood friend of mine who's now a
famous cardiologist, New York best time seller seller.
So, yeah, that that I think that's really interesting. It's a major risk
factor. So it's best to never need CPAP in the first place. Yeah. And
another misconception is that it's mostly the
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elderly people that that that get going to cardiac
arrest or have a heart attack. But we can't
assume that because we've heard of teenagers,
young people having young Young people are not having heart attacks.
What happens to young people very often are they have these
abnormal arrhythmias that they don't know what they're doing. Like for instance,
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in August of this year, '20 this year, 2024,
there was a 14 year old at Marshall Middle School,
HIC Marshall Middle School, who went into cardiac arrest in the
gym of Marshall Middle School. And, it's unclear as to whether he
received CPR. What is very clear when they arrived with the AED,
the battery was dead when he died. Horrible,
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tragic story. Most likely what happened to him, he had an
abnormal arrhythmia he was born with, didn't know about it, and that's what
happened. Same thing happened to LeBron James' son. His son was
playing basketball at University of Southern California two years
ago, went into cardiac arrest. Obviously, University of Southern
California has an excellent emergency action plan, and they saved
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him. And that's how he discovered he had this abnormal arrhythmia. It was
kinda weird because LeBron Jameson, Brian James, he's an elite
athlete. I'm sure he's had numerous EKGs, but he had what's called
intermittent arrhythmia and the arrhythmia did not show up in
EKG. But, it happened at cheerleader at Katie Taylor High
School two summers ago. Same thing happened to her. In
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fact, so many kids block have gone into cardiac arrest
at Katie Independent School District. They purchased their
own EKG machines now and they're screening kids
throughout the district. Wow. I didn't know
that. That's And I I think Alief Independent School District
also has EKG machines. Yeah. My son had two EKGs. One,
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he was 13, one when he was 19, and thank goodness he came out
clean by times. But I know the guy that does these screening, Scott Stevens,
and he says usually like, when my son was screened two years ago in Aleve,
Four Hundred kids got screened with EKG that day. Eight needed further testing.
That's about two percent. Wow. Wow. Well,
kids need to get that done as well. It's so so
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it's so important. It's on the sports physical, and
someone's parents opt out of it because they think, oh, they're a teenager. They
don't need an EKG, but they really do. Right. Twenty three
thousand teenagers this year will go into sudden cardiac arrest,
and about ninety two hundred of them are sport are athletes.
Yeah. And even older people, but they're
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still young. Maybe they're in their forties or thirties, fifties
who have problems. If I know I've met people whose kids
were teenagers fainted a couple times, and, yeah, they took them to
cardiologist to make certain that they didn't have a problem with their heart. But
one in three hundred student athletes has an undetected heart problem.
So you're absolutely right. It's not just old out of shape people this happens to.
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Yeah. It definitely happens to young people as well. And that's why all schools
in Texas are required to have AEDs, automated external
to shareholders, and they use them. HISD after that unfortunate
death in August, their lawyers got involved. They had to fuss
up. A 70, their eighties were nonworking.
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Yeah. Have you found yourself in a situation where
you've had to use your skills? I have. I have. I've
administered choking relief, also known as the
Heimlich maneuver to my son twice and once to a stranger.
And I've attended I think I've had four people pass out
during CPR training. They didn't stop breathing, but I had a pregnant
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woman. This was so scary. A pregnant woman fifteen
to seventeen years ago. I swear, I think she was doing, like, three
days. I mean, she was so pregnant and she passed out during CPR
training and everybody in the classroom got up and ran out of the room like
they were running a race. I think they thought she was gonna deliver a baby
and they wanna give her privacy. Yeah. So I called somebody back in because she
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was very large. She was in the chair and I got her on the floor
and thank God she was breathing. I was just like, I was so and she
was breathing. So we called she woke up after about thirty, forty
seconds. I've had four people pass out during CPR
training in the past thirty five years. Four people. Yeah.
Wow. I that's amazing. That's amazing. But I
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guess after thirty years working on this training
and you would encounter something like this. Blanca,
I love what I do. It's very gratifying. I get
couple emails, phone calls every year. Oh my
goodness. The thing you showed me how to do, I had to save my child
or my husband or my coworker or my friend. It's
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usually with choking relief, the high molecular maneuver. Many
more people choke than go into cardiac arrest. So, and then
five years ago, I met a loving Houston mom
who lost her infant to choking. She was feeding her eight
month old and the eight month old started choking. She had no idea what
to do. So she handed the baby to her husband, ran for
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help. Mistake number one, by the time she got back home, her baby
had died. Just a whole Oh, how sad. Very sad. She
and I became, we became good friends. And, even though we're from
different generations, different cultures, and about a year after that
happened, she called me and she said, I
need to take a CPR class. I'm pregnant again.
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So I was so proud of her. That had to be so hard for her
to take a CPR class because Yeah. She knew yeah. She known what to do.
Her baby would still be here. But she knows as we are people of faith,
They're very brave, courageous people. Now she is a beautiful
baby girl. Yeah. Oh, thank goodness. Thank
goodness. Yes. It was, it all turned out okay. But I'm so sorry. She
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had to go through that experience. Just a horrible. Houston
Chronicle did the big story on what happened to her and then
how we, our relationship, how we sort of committed this, the relationship between
the two of us. It was a really sweet, it was a really sweet story.
And I'm sure you've probably I mean, after training 10,000
people, you've probably gotten so many testimonials
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about how you helped them in situations that they found
themselves in. I have. In fact, this is about three years
ago. It was Sunday morning, 8AM. Someone texted me
a video. I was like, who sent me a video at 08:00 on Sunday morning?
And it was someone who'd been in my class the year before Blanca, and she
was crying in the video. And she was like, thank
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God I took the CPR class from you last year. My nine
month old was choking. I think he was either nine months or a year choking
on a piece of nectarine. It was a hard piece of nectarine. She
said my husband had no idea what to do. She said, had I not taken
the class, I would have no clue what to do. She said, so thank you
so much. I'm so grateful that I knew how to save my child. Yeah.
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But you also train people or have courses in
situation where someone is bleeding. Yes. There there is a
relatively new course called stop the bleed, and I'm a stop
the bleed instructor. And, I think the statistic is
thirty five percent of all prehospital deaths are due to uncontrolled
bleeding. So today, especially, we all need to know
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how to control life threatening bleeding. And, you
basically teach people how to control bleeding either with pressure,
packing wound, or using a tourniquet. In fact, I'm doing a stop the
bleed training at a church in two weeks. Yeah.
And that's something that we can use if we'd come up on an accident or
something. An accident. Or just in your kitchen.
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Yeah. I know. I've sliced my finger with a mandolin a couple of years ago.
Oh my goodness. I threw it out. I got rid of that happened. I was
like, I mean, there was, I don't like those things. It was, there was
some pretty major bleeding going on, but you know, I met a
preschool teacher about a year ago. She told me, she goes, I
she was in one of my classes. She goes, I was in Downtown Houston,
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in Midtown Houston at one in the morning. I was like, nothing good happens after
midnight. And she said, the guy next to me got shot. She
said, and no one was helping. And she said, so I took his t shirt
and packed it into the wound and just apply pressure to the fleece
arrive. I was like, that was so nice of you. But yeah, I mean, oh
my goodness. You only have to watch your news for five minutes or read the
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newspaper. Right. For five minutes and and see that
people are being shot. And just yesterday, three
teenage girls tried to stab their mom because the mom turned off
Wi Fi. Yes. Unthinkable. Unthinkable. I just
I was kinda shocked when I shocked but not shocked. But
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So well, then you've
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got a lot of trainings going on different things for
different situations, but it's helped a lot of
people. So thank you for doing that and for doing it for so
long. So do you work with the Heart
Association or the Red Cross as well? I do. I I
work with, I don't work for them, but, you know, I'm part of their
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committees. I'm on one committee with American Heart
Association. I've been involved and volunteer with American Heart for
thirty five years. I'm an American Red Cross instructor. I'm
an American Safety Health Institute, a medic instructor.
And then I was a national safety instructor, National Safety Council. So
those are the four nationally or internationally recognized organizations
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that provide CPR training. Some instructor, But the courses I most
often do now are American Heart Association
and American Safety Health Institute, ASHIA MEDIC. Those are the
courses that train a lot of the first responders. A lot of first
responders, manufacturing facilities, you use ASHIE meta
courses, and I've been real happy with them. But in fact, I'm getting
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ready to be the chair of a southwest committee
for American Heart Association. So they'll that they'll but I've been
in several different roles for the American Heart, but I don't work for them. It's
just volunteer positions. So have you ever taught
teenagers as well? Have I ever what? Taught teenagers?
Oh my gosh. All the time. I love I trained lots and lots of Girl
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Scouts. And in fact, when my son was in middle school in Spring
Branch ISD, they asked the parents to
come teach electives. So I thought, okay, I'll teach CPR.
So I taught CPR every week for three years
to the sixth, seventh, and eighth graders. I loved it. It was so much
fun. It was so much fun. And I, I thought middle school for my
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son was gonna be a black hole. It was just a wonderful experience. He
had, I had a wonderful time. He had a wonderful time, but I love teaching
teenagers. Yeah. Because they're so, especially middle schoolers, there's,
they're so funny. Yeah. And I'm sure they have thousands of questions.
Oh, they had great questions. Excellent questions.
But, yeah, I I love teaching teenagers. It's so much fun. We
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usually say about 10 and older. 10 is about the youngest you should
really have someone take a CPR class because under that, they're not strong
enough to do the chest compressions, and they can't sit through a two to
four hour class. Right. But now and in fact, I had
a mom bring her because he's a freshman, which is,
I guess, maybe 14 or 15 years old, brought her son
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to my CPR class about three weeks ago. I bet he was very
interested. Oh, he was he was just great.
He was just great. He was just super mature, very interested.
And, yeah, it was just it was great, but I love teaching teenagers.
Yeah. Do you work with community centers as well? I do
sometimes. I do sometimes work with community centers. Absolutely. I
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have in fact, it's not a community. It's a library. Couple years
ago, I did a couple of CPR demonstrations
at several libraries throughout the city of Houston. And, but,
yeah, I work with corporations, schools,
medical offices, dental offices, governmental offices.
I used to, and I'm not sure who's doing it now, but do a lot
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of CPR training for social security offices here in Houston.
Wow. That's important because they have a very stressful
job. Oh, my gosh. Very stressful. And there's the
lobby is just packed with people, just packed with tons
and tons of people. Yeah. Have you ever had a unique
experience? A u unique experience teaching? No.
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Well, teaching or having to use your skills. Well,
yeah. One of one of the good stories when my son
was about 11, so maybe 10 or 11, about ten years
ago, he was shopping with me at H E B. And all of a
sudden, I saw him talking to someone. He saw a friend of his,
and they started throwing jelly beans each other's
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mouths. So I was like, what are y'all doing? Next thing I look, my
son's my son's face turned beet red, just beet red, then
immediately turned very pale. Jelly beans stuck in his airway.
So right there in the bread aisle at H and B at I-ten in Bunker
Hill, I'm giving my son a domino crust. And the jelly bean
came flying out of his mouth and there was all this commotion. And we just
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kind of went on with our shopping. So I was like, don't do that again.
And he used to get really upset with me and said, you're violating my privacy
by sharing that story. And then he just kind of got used to it. Yeah,
no. I mean, that's kind of, it teaches kids and
people to not do dumb things like that because they
do. Oh, well, you I mean, a 10 year old or 11
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Yeah. Boy. Boy is, you know, gonna throw a jar.
Yeah. And I also recently heard that you also do
training to perform CPR on your pets.
Yes. I mean, I'm not an expert in veterinary CPR, but
it's somewhat similar. But the main thing that happens to pets
is choking. And that's pretty simple. It's almost the same thing you
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do to a human. But with dogs, it depends on
the size of the dog, but you just kind of put your hand
right beneath sort of, sort of beneath their, where their elbow is on
their front leg and you compress like you went on a human.
Interesting. I'd never heard of that before. Well, yeah. But the
main thing happens to dogs is choking. Dogs are always eating
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crazy stuff. Right. The bones and stuff. One of my dogs
a few years ago, dug his head deep into the trash can
and ate a bag of cherry pits. I've been eating cherries,
and he ate a bag of cherry pits. And I didn't know it till I
saw took him outside to go to the bathroom, and all the cherry pits came
out in his Oh, no. That wasn't choppy, but I had to call poison
(27:41):
control. Yeah. Straight pits contain arsenic. Oh, I didn't know
that. Well, I didn't know it either until I looked it up. I'm sorry. I
hope he didn't need anything caustic. And I was like, oh my god. So they
told me just to watch him. Yeah. Browsy. But Yeah. Yeah. I
mean, things happen to pets too. I mean, pets.
Yeah. Yeah. Well, do you happen to have a website or a
(28:02):
phone number where we can get more information or go to My my
website is c p r and safety lady dot com.
And I'm on Instagram at t h e c p
r and safety lady, and I'm very active on Instagram. I have a
nice little community over there, but I would love to
provide classes for anybody who's interested. And so, you know,
(28:24):
my phone number is (713)
364-9438. But the best way to
reach me is my website,
cprandsafety80.com. And there are lots of testimonials
on my website. Yeah. You have a blog as well. Yes. I have
a blog. I have testimonials, and I'm real proud of my website.
Can you be reached through your email? Yes. My email
(28:47):
is cprandsafetylady@gmail.com. Great.
Great. Well, we've kind of running out of time here, so
I would love to thank you so much for taking the time
to join me and letting us know that we can go out there and help
people with confidence and knowing that
we can learn how to do something to not
(29:09):
panic and be able to save someone's life. They
have a life. Absolutely. Every everybody should take the CPR class.
Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah. Two hours out of your
two hours out of your day. That's it. Yeah. No. It's it. What
you've given us is invaluable information. Thank you so much,
Blanca. It was really a pleasure speaking with you. Yeah. You need to come
(29:31):
back. She just I'd love to come by. Ask me anytime. Oh. And of
course, thank you all for joining me. And please send
me your comments or any interview
ideas if you'd like. And I'm trying to reach out
there to you guys so that you can be just as informed as
I'm getting informed. So thank you again. Thank you so
(29:53):
much, Brock.
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