Welcome to another thought-provoking episode of Spun Today, where we fuse the art of writing with the pulse of current events, pop culture, and creative inspiration. In Episode 270, we're diving deep into the compelling narratives of HBO’s "Industry," exploring the multifaceted characters navigating the ruthless world of investment banking. Alongside, we'll dissect the latest turn in American politics with Kamala Harris stepping up as the Democratic nominee in a highly charged election atmosphere.
We'll also journey into the realm of the unknown with Joe Rogan’s intriguing discussion on aliens, based on his episode with Luis Elizondo. Plus, we can’t miss Rogan's latest comedy special which is on full display, "Burn the Boats," capturing the essence of raw and unfiltered humor.
Beyond politics and entertainment, we'll tackle pressing social issues, discuss the complexities of war, and critique the portrayal of public figures in the media. And, in a dramatic twist, we'll address the recent controversy surrounding Sean "P. Diddy" Combs, leading to the revocation of a prestigious honor previously awarded by our podcast.
In this episode, Tony Ortiz brings you a blend of motivational insights and creative fuel, highlighting the importance of voting with your conscience and standing up for what you believe in.
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I would say it's like 99% gray, like half a percent white, half
a percent black. Folks just want to paint the whole shit black away. The
argument that gets to me most that I hear is, well, if
technically you compare the stats of
militant deaths versus civilian deaths, it's not dissimilar
than any other war that that has been fought in throughout history.
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To me, I hear that, and I don't
take that argument forward and think or say,
okay, so it's okay then. So continue business as usual.
No, it's the exact opposite of that. It's oh
shit. Every single other war that we've ever fought in history,
the history of the fucking world, we've been wrong on.
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And not we just America, just like we as a human
species, we're doing this shit all wrong. That shouldn't give
you. It should give you pause. It shouldn't give you
reason to continue business as usual.
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What's up folks? What's going on? Welcome to the Spun Today podcast,
the only podcast that is anchored in writing but unlimited in scope.
I'm your host, Tony Ortiz, and I appreciate you listening. This is
episode 270 of the Spun Today podcast, and
in this episode I speak about and break down Joe
Rogan's latest comedy special, Burn the Boats. I also
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speak about a new show that I stumbled upon. Well, new for
me. It's about four seasons deep, if I'm not mistaken,
but season one of the series industry
on HBO speak a little about the current political
state here in America. And last, but certainly not least,
the very first official revocation
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Rogan's latest comedy special, burn the
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boats. He shot this special live on
Netflix on Saturday, August 3, 2024, filmed at
the Majestic Theater in San Antonio, Texas. That was one
of the most impressive parts of this special
was the fact that it was shot live, shot and aired live.
A very ballsy move that I'll share the backstory of in a
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bit, but it's something that I'm
enjoying seeing ever since Chris Rock,
which, if memory serves me right, Chris Rock, after the Will Smith
slap and his latest comedy special, that was like
the first, or I thought that was the very first
live Netflix comedy special. But I
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believe that when I broke down that comedy special, I forgot to
mention Louis CK's special that
aired prior to Chris Rocks. And I think that
one was live as well. So I don't know which one of those
two was exactly the first live special or if it, or if maybe there was
another one that I just don't, don't know about, but they were around the same,
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same time. And that's when Netflix started attempting this, these
live showings. I think Chris Rocks was by far one of the most
anticipated ones because everyone was just waiting on him
to speak about what had happened. I think, like a
year before at that point, with the slap heard around
the world, you know, when Will Smith made that
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poor fucking decision, that bitch move that I don't think
he could ever live down. And that's coming from someone
who's such a big fan of his. Hugely disappointed.
But when he slapped Chris live at the
Oscars on stage and Chris Rock's live
taping of his comedy special, Washington. Just so highly
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anticipated because it was. The first time that folks were going, knew that they
were gonna hear his side of that story. Then
after that, the roast of Tom Brady, which was
amazing, that was also shot and
streamed live. And I think that gives, like, another level
of edginess or like an added layer or
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dimension of excitement to a comedy
special. It's kind of like, marrying, being actually in the room when
you go watch comedy live, like at a club or
theater, with the benefit of
knowing that you're gonna see very worked out, polished
material. So I definitely like that Netflix is doing
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this. And the backstory of it
for Rogan specifically, which, if you're a fan of his
podcast, you may have heard, and I'll just
paraphrase, is that his manager calls
him and says that Netflix wants to offer
him a live comedy special instead of,
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you know, like the usual taped versions, taped and
edited and highly polished versions. And he
immediately declined it. The way he tells on the. On the
pod, he was, like, driving home and then
starts having, like, internal dialogue with himself and ask himself, why'd
you just deny that so quickly? And he came to the conclusion that he was
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just scared. Like, I don't want to do that shit. That's, like, so much
more pressure. And his knee jerk reaction was, again,
just to decline it and say no. And then he winds up calling
his manager back either that same night or the next morning
and saying that he's gonna think about it for a day or
two, so don't tell them no just yet. And then ultimately, he decided
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to do it because of the fact that he was afraid of it. So he
wanted to take it on head on, you know,
face that fear, conquer his inner bitch, as is a motto of
his. So, practicing what he preaches, essentially, which I thought
was pretty dope. And as much of a D rider as I
am of Rogan and his podcast, and, you know, being
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the inspiration behind myself doing this podcast, I've
never considered him one of my favorite comedians. But that said,
this is probably his best special to date. And it's
fun for me, as just such a big podcast fan to see
how his personality from the pod and even some of
his thoughts and insights shared on there
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translate into the medium of stand up comedy. Just from a creative
perspective, that's interesting to me. And here are a few of the bits
that I thought were pretty funny. He, of course,
has a few bits on aliens, and he's speaking
to the criticism of, you know, if aliens do exist, why doesn't
spaceship just pull up above the White House? You know,
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like the iconic image that we see from the, like, the independence
day movie poster type of thing. And he's like, when we go fishing,
when you go fishing, do you look for the president of the lake? It's
like, no, you just pick them up by their lips, and you take pictures with
them, and you drop them back in the fishes. Are
like, what the fuck was that? Can you imagine being a fish
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in that environment? You know, just swimming around, going about your day, something
just rips you out of your environment by your lips, flashes
lights at you that you don't even know what the fuck that it is. Takes
pictures of you, drops you back in, and you're trying to, like, tell. Tell your
fish friends about that experience. And his
point is that that's what aliens would do to us. He was like, if he
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was an alien, he'd take a guy that's in the middle of a
forest in Arkansas and teleport him into
space and explain to him how time is just an
illusion and humans are a product of evolution
meant to only give birth to AI and then drop him
back in the middle of the forest in Arkansas and let him explain that shit
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to his friends? Which, speaking of aliens, by the way, if
it's something that you guys are into, listen to the episode of
Jre with Luis Elizondo on it.
Parts of it get slightly irritating, but
understandable, I guess, with all the stuff that Luis Elizondo said he can't speak
to because he's still part of the government, so on and so forth. But the
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stuff that he did share kind of makes you, gives you pause and makes you
think. So it's an interesting episode
to check out into that kind of shit. Another bit that I
appreciated, which was more of like a, like a slight, like a dig,
speaking to, like, the cancellation attempts and stuff like that
that he went through during the, the COVID era. And as a fan
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of the pod, again, speaking objectively, trying to take my,
my bias out of it as much as one can.
But as someone that has seen
clips of him taken out of context and reported on and blogged on
and blogged on from anyone, from just
an online hater to, you know, prestigious outlets like
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CNN, for example, when you have already seen a
full episode in its full context or listened to
one, and you see the snippets that they take and sometimes
paste together, they're just like,
so clearly hit pieces is all you can call
them, and mischaracterizations of things, and it's like,
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oh, I see what you did there. I see what you're going for.
But about that whole era, he mentions this one offline, that, like,
this transition that I appreciated, which was that we lost a lot
of people during COVID and most of them are still alive.
He also speaks about traveling a lot, for
comedy, obviously, and for the UFC. And he
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says how the airport is the perfect place to be high,
which is counterintuitive because you think of, like,
drug sniffing dogs and you're paranoid because you have to
follow procedures and do certain things. But he says it's
the absolute perfect place to be high because nobody's gonna notice. Everybody's
anxious and on edge and, you know, shuffling around for their
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boarding passes and passports and going through security lines,
and nobody's paying attention to you, and everybody's just in
this heightened state already. So you. If you're high and
paranoid, you're kind of just, like, fitting into that mold of what's going
on around you. And he adds that in the airport,
everybody tells me exactly what the fuck to do every step of the
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way from get in line. No, go into this line. Get out of
that line. Sit down, take off your shoes,
don't lean back in your chair, so on and so forth. He was
like, so it's super easy because you don't have to, like, keep track of those
things. And then he does this act out with, which Rogan is actually really good
at within his comedies when he acts out certain bits.
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Wait, does this act out of the TSA guy, checking him
in and just, like, patting him down while
simultaneously asking him, like, UFC questions, which is pretty funny.
I like this line that he said. I forget what he. He was speaking to.
It may have been just to the, like, woke culture in
general, but how crazy people, like, the concept of someone just being
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crazy went away like the flu did. During COVID he
speaks about one of the articles that tried canceling
him for being homophobic. He mentions, like, the
quote that they used in the actual article. He just criticized him in the
sense of, you guys are just fucking lazy. He was
like, if you want to take me out of context,
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I give you a lot of shit to work with. And I've said
so much more crazier shit than what they actually used.
The last one I'll share here just because I really appreciated
the analogy, was this whole lesbian chunk that he had
and how guys definitely wouldn't care
if they were on a date with a girl for the first time, and she
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told him that, you know, she used to have a girlfriend or was in a
long term relationship with a girl prior to that one, that the guy's
mind is kind of like, woo low miles. It's like
a barn find, like, a 67 mustang that's under a
tarp. But, yeah, shout out to Joe. It was a special that
I enjoyed. It was the whole shooting and streaming
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it live thing just made it more of like an event. An event like must
tune in type of thing that I liked and definitely
added something to it, so I would highly recommend it.
And you can catch the replay on Netflix, Joe Rogan's
comedy special Burn the Boats, streaming now
on Netflix
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industry season one. This is an
HBO series that I just stumbled upon. It's about
four years old, so spoiler alert, I guess,
but I am the one that's late to the party here, so
take that for what it's worth. Here is the official synopsis.
Industry is a british american television drama series
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that premiered in 2020. It follows a group of young
graduates competing for permanent positions at a
prestigious investment bank in London. These young bankers
and traders make their way in the financial world in the
aftermath of the 2008 collapse. And first and
foremost, as we like to do here on the Spun Today podcast, I want to
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shout out the writers, because if we don't do it here at Spun today, who
will? The series industry was created
by Mickey down and Conrad
K. They are also the main writers of the vast majority of
the episodes, which I've only seen season one thus
far. But you definitely get a cohesive,
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consistent feel to it, which now knowing that these two
guys that created the show are
the vast majority of the writing credits is definitely a testament to that
consistency that I've enjoyed. But aside from Mickey down
and Conrad K, you also have Joseph Charlton,
Sam H. Freeman, Kate Verghese,
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Matthew Barry and Zara
Mirza.
Shout out to each and every one of those writers that
put this show together. Now, this show is interesting to me
because it is one. It's an HBO show.
HBO, just when they make a good show, they make a
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really good show. I mean, the batting average for for
shows has to be amazing. It's very similar to
succession in style and how
it's taking a deep dive into a specific industry
and some of the characters within that industry, or at least through the lens
of a few specific characters within that industry. So
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how succession was more on like a modern media,
Fox News esque type of
conglomerate industry is all about the world of
finance and investment banking, which coming from it being
in that world of finance in my nine to five,
definitely piques my interest. Now, like the synopsis says,
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there's this young group of recent grads
that are going through their like, first year
apprenticeship, if you will, at a prestigious investment bank called
Peer Point. And it's definitely the type of show
that's rooted in its characters. They all
have strong and unique personalities. You start
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getting invested in them right away. The main one for me, which is
one of the main characters at least of the first season so far,
is Mihala, which plays Harper Stern.
And I've seen her in a couple other things, namely, she played
Mahershali's daughter in the movie leave the world behind, which I did
a breakdown of. She plays Pia in the Black
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Mirror episode of season six called Locke
Henry, which was one of my favorite episodes of that season, which I believe I
also did a breakdown of. She's a great actress, and she's the lead
in this, or one of the main characters in this. And in the first
season, you see this young group of kids that
just graduated. You know, this is their first job
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at this really prestigious place. They're wide eyed and green
and idealistic in some senses, and get thrown
into this environment where it's a bit of a culture shock, but
expected on some levels, and it's where they want to
be. So they're trying to assimilate as fast and
as quickly as possible. But this environment where they're being
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sent on salad runs instead of doing actual work
and being yelled at and cursed at by
traders and undermined, and trying to deal with the
office politics of seizing the folks that are already there,
trying to figure out where they fit in in the grand scheme of things,
while also maneuvering
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to be seen enough to be considered because that they're
all aiming to get these permanent positions to get hired
permanently after their first year, and only a third
of them will be. And they're trying to figure all this out.
And for some of them, it becomes all encompassing. You see
the different approaches that each of them take, where some of them
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get backstabby right away. Some of them
put their health at danger by just,
like, popping speed to stay awake and, you know, complete more work and do
more reports and I to try to shine that way.
One dude that pretty much just hopped up on,
like, speed and drugs to stay awake,
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like energy drinks, and would literally sleep at the office. We could
be the first one there and the last one there, and just trying to do
every single thing he could to get ahead. He winds up dying
at the office. Then you have a different approach of someone. For
example, like Gus Sacky, played by David
Johnson, does a phenomenal job as well. He
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has more of a laid back kind of. He comes from money. He
feels like he belongs there. He's smarter than everybody else. More of a laid back
approach to the whole thing. You have a character like Robert
Spearing, which is played by Harry Lawty, who's more of
the traditional, I guess, palm pressing and chin
wagging with the clients type of guy. You know, take
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him out, wine them and dine them. Just do a shitload of drugs,
you know, like, party drugs. And, you know, that's like, his whole scene.
You have Yasmin, who is played by Marisa Abila,
who also comes for money but wants to make
her own way. But it's kind of seen, like, the little princess that
thinks that things should go her way or is just, like, used to
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things going her way. So she gets a lot of. Her character gets a lot
of friction within the dynamics of her relationship
based on that. Her, like, mentor, like, the not
really mentor, but, like, the lead on the desk that she's on
is Kenny Kilbane, who's played by Connor
McNeil. And he's just, like, a misogynistic asshole
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and treats you like shit. Harper Stern's character, the
lead on her desk is Eric Tao, played by Ken Leung.
He finds out kind of like a secret about her
that he leverages to gain her
loyalty, essentially. But he's a pretty interesting character so
far. The show, it's well written, very engaging,
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entertaining, especially if you're into that, the finance world.
And it's very heavy on the drugs and sex.
It's a euphoria esque in that way. And I've never seen the show
euphoria, but its reputation precedes it. I would say probably
exaggeratedly so, but definitely heavy on drugs and sex.
And all the characters are fucking each other and doing drugs. And you
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definitely get a lot of that, which helps, I would say, from
a creative perspective, just
in adding to the tension and the dynamic of
the different relationships throughout the show and how folks like
interconnect. Yeah, it's a. It's a dope watch, and I definitely recommend
it. I'll definitely keep you guys posted once I watch all the
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remaining seasons, but that is my little take
recap and review of industry season one streaming
now on HBO. Max, check it
out. The current political
state here in America as the
presidential elections get closer and closer. I am
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recording this as of September of 2024. Just wanted to touch on
and reflect on a few of the high level things that have
been going on as of late, starting with the
Kamala Harris and Trumpeto debate. Well,
actually taking a quick step back because I don't think I ever even spoke about
here on the podcast about how Kamala Harris is
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now the democratic nominee for president of the United
States. Joe Biden finally stepped down, and
it's being characterized by one side or the right side, I
would say, as we're not necessarily right, because I hear
similar things from folks on the left as well. But it's being characterized by a
side as essentially
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a presidential coup by the Democratic Party to take out its
sitting president and put in someone who they wanted to put in,
which was VP Kamala Harris. And it's
being presented by another side as
this noble, great leader in Joe Biden
that's wise beyond his,
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I want to say, years, but, I mean, he's already very up there, right?
So I would say this, you know, wise,
selfless, lifelong politician who
has always said that he was never going
to not run for a second term, but decided for
the betterment of the country to step down. And he did this
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great, noble thing for the country to put Kamala in place
and have a better chance at defeating former President Donald
Trump. I personally don't think it's either one of those two extremes.
I think it was a combination of the
pressure that Biden felt and more so the
folks around him. Cause I do think to some extent, he's kind
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of checked out, whether from the decades and
decades of political service or whether it's from
cognitive decline or a combination of both. I
think it's something that he begrudgingly did. And I also don't think
it was just a straight up, you know, coup takeover of
him. You know, they're put him in a dark room and told him, you're
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not gonna be president anymore, buddy. I don't think it's that either. So it's like
somewhere in between. But anyway, Kamala is now the
nominee for president of the United States. And she had
a debate with former President Donald Trump. And
Kamala did to Trump what Trump did to
Biden in their prior debate. How
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horrible and old and fuck, this is who we
have running on the democratic ticket. Joe Biden
came off after that debate with Donald Trump.
That realization moment, that moment of reckoning, if you
will. I feel that that's what everybody on the right
felt after Kamala just
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demolished Trump in that debate. And what's crazy is that, you know,
how, like an mma or boxing, like, once, like a fighter that
is undefeated, once he finally loses, other fighters
are able to, like, watch that tape and figure out the game plan that worked
to defeat that fighter.
Kamala did that to Trump. I feel that now
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anybody debates Trump, whether she. They actually do debate again, which is up in
the air, because I think CNN wants to do it in October. And
Trump, Kamala already said yes, Trump already said no because it's,
you know, early voting would have already started.
So he wants to do it sooner, which, I mean, we're already
towards the end of September. So it's like, that's essentially just saying no
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because I think he took such a large l. So that's like a
strategic move to, like, not debate again from his perspective. But
Kamala exposed how to beat Trump in a debate. How, you know, he did it
with Hillary, he did it with Biden, although Biden, like, held his own, like,
in the first ones, first time around. But he just,
you know, speaks over people, lies his ass off,
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you know, Lotus guy in the room seems like he's right even though he's
not. She turned all that on its head with a brilliant
strategy of just baiting him time and time again throughout the
debate into being the gross narcissist
that he is. He couldn't help himself, but
just constantly put his foot in his mouth time and time again. And she
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was just, like, masterfully baiting him into
going towards speaking about trivial things like the size of
his rallies and how big they are compared
to hers instead of speaking, you know, while he had an opportunity to
speak about the issues at the border
with millions of people pouring in, which isn't obviously,
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like a known issue, known win from a debate
perspective for the Republicans, he went away from that because she
baited him into speaking about the size of his crowds. So I feel like taking
that approach with Trump for any candidate moving forward. Like, that's how you
went through the debate. Now, me personally, I'm not the biggest Kamala fan early
on, like, the democratic primaries, when we elected
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Hillary, I kind of liked her, but I was more of a Tulsi
Gabbard. Andrew Yang I was leaning more in that
direction, but I don't feel the confidence in her that I feel I
should after being VP for four years
and her VP pick, which was
Minnesota governor Tim Waltz, doesn't add any degree of
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confidence to the ticket, in my opinion, either. Similar to how
JD Vance, the JD vance picked for Trump. I feel like that didn't move the
needle at all on his side. Not that vps generally do, but I feel
like they should. Right. We've also had more potential
assassination attempts on Trump, which is
scary. It's not, not something that any
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rational person wants. There was that one guy with, like, an
AK four or some sort of a, like, ar assault
rifle that was found near a golf
course that Trump was at and fled the scene. They caught him, arrested
him. He was something like, like three or 400 yards away from
where Trump was. Then there was another one that I just recently, today
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heard of, which was some sort of explosives
found near where Trump was or where he was going to
be or something like that. That's just fucking craziness, right?
And I definitely do not want a
president. Harris if it's directly
or indirectly a consequence of some
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shadowy powers that be
assassinating the competition. Now, where I'm at
personally is that I am
a lifelong New York Democrat that
feels that he does not have a political home.
Growing up, even though I was too young to vote, probably the
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earliest president that I remember would be Bill Clinton. In
retrospect, you know, still, you know, hindsight being 2020
and obviously knowing more from life experiences and things like
that, you know, that no president at all, or
I would even deem to say politicians in general are squeaky clean,
perfect, get everything right across the board. But there
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was a general, and again, coming from New York,
blue bubble that we live in, there was a
general, you know, the good guy won. The Democrat wonde after that,
after eight years of Bush, which, again, I was too young to vote for or
an election to vote in that Bush Cheney presidency
that got us into the decades long
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war on terror and poor decisions of going
into Iraq and just being straight up warhawks
and sending personal friends of mine
straight out of high school into war and possibly
to their deaths. It's like, I'm definitely not on the side of those guys.
And then President Obama, who I was proud and
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happy and hopeful to vote for, which
ultimately I believe was the right decision for the
country at the time, but definitely was not without his faults.
To then the quote unquote corrective pendulum swinging back to the
right, seemingly as a response to the first black
president giving us a President Trump, which
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I think was a symptom of also the democratic party just
becoming more and more of the establishment, more and
more of the status quo, all that war hawk
conservative controlling of free
speech, et cetera, et cetera, that we didn't like about
the Bush and Cheney era, we're now seeing reflected in
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certain parts of our, the Democratic Party. And Trump
is a result of us getting that now. It's like we're,
we the Democratic Party. We are pro all these
wars and feeding the military industrial
complex and pro big pharma and
wanting to curb free speech. And it's like, shit just feels
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backwards now. We're not completely backwards. Cause there's a lot of
that shit on the right side mainly, but
things just feel off. They feel wrong. And
speaking specifically about the ukrainian Russia war
or what's going on in Gaza, which if
you witnessing what's going on now in
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Gaza, it is absolutely
reprehensible. What happened in
October, the terrorist attack that happened in Israel in October
of last year, that led to
what we're currently seeing now. Definitely no condoning it,
our actions in America over the decades
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as well as Israel's. But just speaking
about America specifically in, you know, playing world
police or not playing, being world police,
toppling over and putting in place pro
western governments throughout the Middle east,
funding resistance movements that ultimately lead
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to some of those. Not all, some of
those irreprehensible, terrorist,
indefensible acts of terrorist
organizations. If we just ignore our
part of our influence, at the very
least, but our part in that whole thing,
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we're just being willfully ignorant and are
never going to change anything. Nothing's going to change. Nothing has changed since I was
a little kid. You always hear to quote Tupac, there's war on the streets and
war in the Middle east, or, you know, peace in the Middle east, like, that
shit's been forever. But I say that to say that
if you witness what's going on in Gaza and think it's
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anything less than the genocide, you're burying your head in this
hand. And if you want to play semantics with the. With the word genocide,
here's my biggest beef of the whole thing. If you want to play semantics, you
know, it's not technically genocide. This, that, the other, whatever the. The argument that I
hear most from folks on the right and left that are
just want to paint everything black and white, good side and bad
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side, and completely ignore the gray, which is the vast majority
of this event. Diagram of the. The. This mosaic of what's going
on over there, I would say it's like 99% gray, like
half a percent white, half a percent black. Folks just want to paint the whole
shit black and white. The argument that gets to me most that I hear is,
well, if technically, you compare the stats
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of militant deaths versus civilian deaths, it's
not dissimilar than any other war that has been fought
throughout history. To me. I hear that and
I don't take that argument forward and think
or say, okay, so it's okay, then. So continue business
as usual. No, it's the exact opposite of that.
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It's, oh, shit. Every single other war that
we've ever fought in history, the history of the fucking world, we've been
wrong on. And not. We just America, just like we, as a
human species, we're doing this shit all wrong. That shouldn't
give you. It should give you pause. It shouldn't give you
reason to continue business as usual. But I
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digress. And all that
again, just to bring it back to politics here in
America. I think it's from. It's a testament of
being given the illusion of choice decade after decade,
election after election. Here in America, we have two candidates,
Democrat or the Republican, two candidates
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that truly have a shot in winning with the third party candidates
just being garnishes that are sprinkled around the election plate.
And I do, in my heart of hearts, believe that politics,
as idealistic as it sounds, is supposed to
be you voting your interest, you voting your
ideals, you voting your morals, you
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voting two and four, whatever issue or
issues impact you most and that you care about
most, and that translating into
candidates that mirror those beliefs in
the legislation that they champion, which ultimately
translates into the society that we want
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to see and live in. And I don't believe we'll
ever achieve that while we just have a good
enough pseudo version of our
ideals being shoehorned into
two choices. So, in terms of my vote come
November, I don't know who's getting it yet, I'll be honest.
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Although I live in New York, which is gonna go Democrat anyway,
but I'm not one of those. I don't believe that means that your vote
doesn't matter person. But I am definitely resigning
myself to voting third party.
And no, I do not believe that it's throwing away a vote.
I don't think of voting as gambling with the
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purpose of betting on the horse that you think is gonna win. That's the
wrong mentality. I believe. I also believe that
the. The thought of if you vote third party, it's benefiting
one side or the other, so you're technically voting for the other side.
I believe that's very short term thinking and
may be true short term, but I believe
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that, right or wrong, voting for a third party long
term and building up that momentum is
signaling to the fucked up political system
that we're in, which breeds all these
geopolitical situations that we're in, not to mention
all the negative things going on here at home. But I believe
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that it's signaling to that fucked up political
system that it needs to finally
begin changing, begin shifting
toward multiple parties that are
not just candidate versions of garnishes on the
ballot, but into viable choices. And
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that political state is what I would want to hand down
to my kids in future generations. And that's where I'm at with it,
folks. That's where I'm at with the current political state here in
America. In this episode's
installment of goats doing goat shit, we have an
unprecedented first time ever
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official revocation of a previously
bestowed goats doing goat shit highest spun today
honor, which was once upon a time during episode
243 of the podcast, to be exact, presented to
Shawn P. Diddy Combs, aka the diddler. Now, for those
who don't know, the spun today goats doing goat shit
(38:57):
segment is to highlight folks who are goats,
aka greatest of all time. If you break goat up into an acronym,
shout out to LL Cool J for coining the terminal. But I like to highlight
goats within their own respective lanes, going above and
beyond and doing some goat shit, something that they
otherwise or necessarily didn't have to do for any type
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of personal gain or for just a major
accomplishment that they achieved. And I previously gave Diddy the honor
in what seemed at the time as like, an altruistic
type of thing, in that he gave
back the publishing rights to prior bad
boy artists. Now, Diddy has a, you know, storied career
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with bad boy records, establishing it, breaking artists
like Mace and Biggie,
Faith, little Kim and so many others.
The locks and a lot of artists, including the locks, Mace
all had beef with Diddy in terms when it came around to, like,
business dealings. He's always been known as a
(40:03):
ruthless businessman, which in part, I'm sure, you know,
got him to building his billion dollar empire. But
he took advantage of artists similar to
the environment, you know, the best practices at the
time, or business as usual at the time, of just raping artists
for their royalties, you know, signing
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their rights away. You take ownership of the things that they
created, aka the publishing, which is a part of
that. But back in episode 243, you can go back and listen, I broke down
how dope it was that he actually, instead of still holding on to
those rights, gave it back to his artists. And I
kind of mentioned in that episode how that seemed like a
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bit of maybe a guilty conscience or, you know, trying to
clean up his Persona for whatever reason. Which fast forward to now we know
why, at least in part. And also with
everything that's going on right now between Jay Z and Dame
Dash, and how Dame Dash put his
third ownership of Rockefeller Records, or, sorry, of the
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publishing of Jay Z's first album, reasonable
doubt, he put it up for sale. And Jay Z
highlighted rule within the publishing
rights world. Something to the effect of
that after 35 years, the ownership goes back to the artist anyway.
I wonder how much of that publishing that Diddy originally gave
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back was going back to the artists anyway, soon
since this was, you know, they're all. Their heydays were like back in
the nineties. So that's a whole nother layer to him
trying to portray himself as doing something that's like, not
as big of a deal as it was, or at least as
I took it to be. But aside from all that,
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after the Cassie video comes out, where he's
literally beating the crap out of her in a public
hotel lobby, sorry, hallway, and you take that
egregious act and then contemplate if
that's what he does in public with cameras around. Imagine what he does in the
privacy of his own home when he thinks he's not being
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recorded. And then you add all the shit that's
coming out now with the freak off and the alleged
pimping out of Justin Bieber
and hundreds and hundreds of cameras,
hidden cameras in different rooms at these
places where he would throw these, his houses, where he would throw these parties.
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And now he's like that Jeffrey Epstein of the hip
hop world, allegedly and apparently single
handedly responsible for a large p
and l line item related to baby
oil in Johnson and Johnson's financial
reporting. Just all that combined just sheds that
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much more light on the type of person
that he was and is. And although I know this
will hurt more than any jail sentence
or financial burdens that are coming his way, but I
officially revoke the spun today goat doing
goat shit honor that was previously
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awarded. And that is this episode segment of goats
doing goat shit. And
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I love you, Aidan. I love you, daddy.
I love you, Grayson. I love you, daddy.
Damn.
I would say it's like 99% gray, like half a percent white, half
a percent black. Folks just want to paint the whole shit black away. The
argument that gets to me most that I hear is, well, if
technically you compare the stats of
militant deaths versus civilian deaths, it's not dissimilar
than any other war that that has been fought in throughout history.
(00:23):
To me, I hear that, and I don't
take that argument forward and think or say,
okay, so it's okay then. So continue business as usual.
No, it's the exact opposite of that. It's oh
shit. Every single other war that we've ever fought in history,
the history of the fucking world, we've been wrong on.
(00:45):
And not we just America, just like we as a human
species, we're doing this shit all wrong. That shouldn't give
you. It should give you pause. It shouldn't give you
reason to continue business as usual.
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What's up folks? What's going on? Welcome to the Spun Today podcast,
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I'm your host, Tony Ortiz, and I appreciate you listening. This is
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in this episode I speak about and break down Joe
Rogan's latest comedy special, Burn the Boats. I also
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me. It's about four seasons deep, if I'm not mistaken,
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state here in America. And last, but certainly not least,
the very first official revocation
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Rogan's latest comedy special, burn the
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boats. He shot this special live on
Netflix on Saturday, August 3, 2024, filmed at
the Majestic Theater in San Antonio, Texas. That was one
of the most impressive parts of this special
was the fact that it was shot live, shot and aired live.
A very ballsy move that I'll share the backstory of in a
(04:16):
bit, but it's something that I'm
enjoying seeing ever since Chris Rock,
which, if memory serves me right, Chris Rock, after the Will Smith
slap and his latest comedy special, that was like
the first, or I thought that was the very first
live Netflix comedy special. But I
(04:38):
believe that when I broke down that comedy special, I forgot to
mention Louis CK's special that
aired prior to Chris Rocks. And I think that
one was live as well. So I don't know which one of those
two was exactly the first live special or if it, or if maybe there was
another one that I just don't, don't know about, but they were around the same,
(05:00):
same time. And that's when Netflix started attempting this, these
live showings. I think Chris Rocks was by far one of the most
anticipated ones because everyone was just waiting on him
to speak about what had happened. I think, like a
year before at that point, with the slap heard around
the world, you know, when Will Smith made that
(05:22):
poor fucking decision, that bitch move that I don't think
he could ever live down. And that's coming from someone
who's such a big fan of his. Hugely disappointed.
But when he slapped Chris live at the
Oscars on stage and Chris Rock's live
taping of his comedy special, Washington. Just so highly
(05:45):
anticipated because it was. The first time that folks were going, knew that they
were gonna hear his side of that story. Then
after that, the roast of Tom Brady, which was
amazing, that was also shot and
streamed live. And I think that gives, like, another level
of edginess or like an added layer or
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dimension of excitement to a comedy
special. It's kind of like, marrying, being actually in the room when
you go watch comedy live, like at a club or
theater, with the benefit of
knowing that you're gonna see very worked out, polished
material. So I definitely like that Netflix is doing
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this. And the backstory of it
for Rogan specifically, which, if you're a fan of his
podcast, you may have heard, and I'll just
paraphrase, is that his manager calls
him and says that Netflix wants to offer
him a live comedy special instead of,
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you know, like the usual taped versions, taped and
edited and highly polished versions. And he
immediately declined it. The way he tells on the. On the
pod, he was, like, driving home and then
starts having, like, internal dialogue with himself and ask himself, why'd
you just deny that so quickly? And he came to the conclusion that he was
(07:11):
just scared. Like, I don't want to do that shit. That's, like, so much
more pressure. And his knee jerk reaction was, again,
just to decline it and say no. And then he winds up calling
his manager back either that same night or the next morning
and saying that he's gonna think about it for a day or
two, so don't tell them no just yet. And then ultimately, he decided
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to do it because of the fact that he was afraid of it. So he
wanted to take it on head on, you know,
face that fear, conquer his inner bitch, as is a motto of
his. So, practicing what he preaches, essentially, which I thought
was pretty dope. And as much of a D rider as I
am of Rogan and his podcast, and, you know, being
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the inspiration behind myself doing this podcast, I've
never considered him one of my favorite comedians. But that said,
this is probably his best special to date. And it's
fun for me, as just such a big podcast fan to see
how his personality from the pod and even some of
his thoughts and insights shared on there
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translate into the medium of stand up comedy. Just from a creative
perspective, that's interesting to me. And here are a few of the bits
that I thought were pretty funny. He, of course,
has a few bits on aliens, and he's speaking
to the criticism of, you know, if aliens do exist, why doesn't
spaceship just pull up above the White House? You know,
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like the iconic image that we see from the, like, the independence
day movie poster type of thing. And he's like, when we go fishing,
when you go fishing, do you look for the president of the lake? It's
like, no, you just pick them up by their lips, and you take pictures with
them, and you drop them back in the fishes. Are
like, what the fuck was that? Can you imagine being a fish
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in that environment? You know, just swimming around, going about your day, something
just rips you out of your environment by your lips, flashes
lights at you that you don't even know what the fuck that it is. Takes
pictures of you, drops you back in, and you're trying to, like, tell. Tell your
fish friends about that experience. And his
point is that that's what aliens would do to us. He was like, if he
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was an alien, he'd take a guy that's in the middle of a
forest in Arkansas and teleport him into
space and explain to him how time is just an
illusion and humans are a product of evolution
meant to only give birth to AI and then drop him
back in the middle of the forest in Arkansas and let him explain that shit
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to his friends? Which, speaking of aliens, by the way, if
it's something that you guys are into, listen to the episode of
Jre with Luis Elizondo on it.
Parts of it get slightly irritating, but
understandable, I guess, with all the stuff that Luis Elizondo said he can't speak
to because he's still part of the government, so on and so forth. But the
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stuff that he did share kind of makes you, gives you pause and makes you
think. So it's an interesting episode
to check out into that kind of shit. Another bit that I
appreciated, which was more of like a, like a slight, like a dig,
speaking to, like, the cancellation attempts and stuff like that
that he went through during the, the COVID era. And as a fan
(10:30):
of the pod, again, speaking objectively, trying to take my,
my bias out of it as much as one can.
But as someone that has seen
clips of him taken out of context and reported on and blogged on
and blogged on from anyone, from just
an online hater to, you know, prestigious outlets like
(10:53):
CNN, for example, when you have already seen a
full episode in its full context or listened to
one, and you see the snippets that they take and sometimes
paste together, they're just like,
so clearly hit pieces is all you can call
them, and mischaracterizations of things, and it's like,
(11:15):
oh, I see what you did there. I see what you're going for.
But about that whole era, he mentions this one offline, that, like,
this transition that I appreciated, which was that we lost a lot
of people during COVID and most of them are still alive.
He also speaks about traveling a lot, for
comedy, obviously, and for the UFC. And he
(11:37):
says how the airport is the perfect place to be high,
which is counterintuitive because you think of, like,
drug sniffing dogs and you're paranoid because you have to
follow procedures and do certain things. But he says it's
the absolute perfect place to be high because nobody's gonna notice. Everybody's
anxious and on edge and, you know, shuffling around for their
(12:00):
boarding passes and passports and going through security lines,
and nobody's paying attention to you, and everybody's just in
this heightened state already. So you. If you're high and
paranoid, you're kind of just, like, fitting into that mold of what's going
on around you. And he adds that in the airport,
everybody tells me exactly what the fuck to do every step of the
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way from get in line. No, go into this line. Get out of
that line. Sit down, take off your shoes,
don't lean back in your chair, so on and so forth. He was
like, so it's super easy because you don't have to, like, keep track of those
things. And then he does this act out with, which Rogan is actually really good
at within his comedies when he acts out certain bits.
(12:44):
Wait, does this act out of the TSA guy, checking him
in and just, like, patting him down while
simultaneously asking him, like, UFC questions, which is pretty funny.
I like this line that he said. I forget what he. He was speaking to.
It may have been just to the, like, woke culture in
general, but how crazy people, like, the concept of someone just being
(13:05):
crazy went away like the flu did. During COVID he
speaks about one of the articles that tried canceling
him for being homophobic. He mentions, like, the
quote that they used in the actual article. He just criticized him in the
sense of, you guys are just fucking lazy. He was
like, if you want to take me out of context,
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I give you a lot of shit to work with. And I've said
so much more crazier shit than what they actually used.
The last one I'll share here just because I really appreciated
the analogy, was this whole lesbian chunk that he had
and how guys definitely wouldn't care
if they were on a date with a girl for the first time, and she
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told him that, you know, she used to have a girlfriend or was in a
long term relationship with a girl prior to that one, that the guy's
mind is kind of like, woo low miles. It's like
a barn find, like, a 67 mustang that's under a
tarp. But, yeah, shout out to Joe. It was a special that
I enjoyed. It was the whole shooting and streaming
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it live thing just made it more of like an event. An event like must
tune in type of thing that I liked and definitely
added something to it, so I would highly recommend it.
And you can catch the replay on Netflix, Joe Rogan's
comedy special Burn the Boats, streaming now
on Netflix
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industry season one. This is an
HBO series that I just stumbled upon. It's about
four years old, so spoiler alert, I guess,
but I am the one that's late to the party here, so
take that for what it's worth. Here is the official synopsis.
Industry is a british american television drama series
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that premiered in 2020. It follows a group of young
graduates competing for permanent positions at a
prestigious investment bank in London. These young bankers
and traders make their way in the financial world in the
aftermath of the 2008 collapse. And first and
foremost, as we like to do here on the Spun Today podcast, I want to
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shout out the writers, because if we don't do it here at Spun today, who
will? The series industry was created
by Mickey down and Conrad
K. They are also the main writers of the vast majority of
the episodes, which I've only seen season one thus
far. But you definitely get a cohesive,
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consistent feel to it, which now knowing that these two
guys that created the show are
the vast majority of the writing credits is definitely a testament to that
consistency that I've enjoyed. But aside from Mickey down
and Conrad K, you also have Joseph Charlton,
Sam H. Freeman, Kate Verghese,
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Matthew Barry and Zara
Mirza.
Shout out to each and every one of those writers that
put this show together. Now, this show is interesting to me
because it is one. It's an HBO show.
HBO, just when they make a good show, they make a
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really good show. I mean, the batting average for for
shows has to be amazing. It's very similar to
succession in style and how
it's taking a deep dive into a specific industry
and some of the characters within that industry, or at least through the lens
of a few specific characters within that industry. So
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how succession was more on like a modern media,
Fox News esque type of
conglomerate industry is all about the world of
finance and investment banking, which coming from it being
in that world of finance in my nine to five,
definitely piques my interest. Now, like the synopsis says,
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there's this young group of recent grads
that are going through their like, first year
apprenticeship, if you will, at a prestigious investment bank called
Peer Point. And it's definitely the type of show
that's rooted in its characters. They all
have strong and unique personalities. You start
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getting invested in them right away. The main one for me, which is
one of the main characters at least of the first season so far,
is Mihala, which plays Harper Stern.
And I've seen her in a couple other things, namely, she played
Mahershali's daughter in the movie leave the world behind, which I did
a breakdown of. She plays Pia in the Black
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Mirror episode of season six called Locke
Henry, which was one of my favorite episodes of that season, which I believe I
also did a breakdown of. She's a great actress, and she's the lead
in this, or one of the main characters in this. And in the first
season, you see this young group of kids that
just graduated. You know, this is their first job
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at this really prestigious place. They're wide eyed and green
and idealistic in some senses, and get thrown
into this environment where it's a bit of a culture shock, but
expected on some levels, and it's where they want to
be. So they're trying to assimilate as fast and
as quickly as possible. But this environment where they're being
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sent on salad runs instead of doing actual work
and being yelled at and cursed at by
traders and undermined, and trying to deal with the
office politics of seizing the folks that are already there,
trying to figure out where they fit in in the grand scheme of things,
while also maneuvering
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to be seen enough to be considered because that they're
all aiming to get these permanent positions to get hired
permanently after their first year, and only a third
of them will be. And they're trying to figure all this out.
And for some of them, it becomes all encompassing. You see
the different approaches that each of them take, where some of them
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get backstabby right away. Some of them
put their health at danger by just,
like, popping speed to stay awake and, you know, complete more work and do
more reports and I to try to shine that way.
One dude that pretty much just hopped up on,
like, speed and drugs to stay awake,
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like energy drinks, and would literally sleep at the office. We could
be the first one there and the last one there, and just trying to do
every single thing he could to get ahead. He winds up dying
at the office. Then you have a different approach of someone. For
example, like Gus Sacky, played by David
Johnson, does a phenomenal job as well. He
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has more of a laid back kind of. He comes from money. He
feels like he belongs there. He's smarter than everybody else. More of a laid back
approach to the whole thing. You have a character like Robert
Spearing, which is played by Harry Lawty, who's more of
the traditional, I guess, palm pressing and chin
wagging with the clients type of guy. You know, take
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him out, wine them and dine them. Just do a shitload of drugs,
you know, like, party drugs. And, you know, that's like, his whole scene.
You have Yasmin, who is played by Marisa Abila,
who also comes for money but wants to make
her own way. But it's kind of seen, like, the little princess that
thinks that things should go her way or is just, like, used to
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things going her way. So she gets a lot of. Her character gets a lot
of friction within the dynamics of her relationship
based on that. Her, like, mentor, like, the not
really mentor, but, like, the lead on the desk that she's on
is Kenny Kilbane, who's played by Connor
McNeil. And he's just, like, a misogynistic asshole
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and treats you like shit. Harper Stern's character, the
lead on her desk is Eric Tao, played by Ken Leung.
He finds out kind of like a secret about her
that he leverages to gain her
loyalty, essentially. But he's a pretty interesting character so
far. The show, it's well written, very engaging,
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entertaining, especially if you're into that, the finance world.
And it's very heavy on the drugs and sex.
It's a euphoria esque in that way. And I've never seen the show
euphoria, but its reputation precedes it. I would say probably
exaggeratedly so, but definitely heavy on drugs and sex.
And all the characters are fucking each other and doing drugs. And you
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definitely get a lot of that, which helps, I would say, from
a creative perspective, just
in adding to the tension and the dynamic of
the different relationships throughout the show and how folks like
interconnect. Yeah, it's a. It's a dope watch, and I definitely recommend
it. I'll definitely keep you guys posted once I watch all the
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remaining seasons, but that is my little take
recap and review of industry season one streaming
now on HBO. Max, check it
out. The current political
state here in America as the
presidential elections get closer and closer. I am
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recording this as of September of 2024. Just wanted to touch on
and reflect on a few of the high level things that have
been going on as of late, starting with the
Kamala Harris and Trumpeto debate. Well,
actually taking a quick step back because I don't think I ever even spoke about
here on the podcast about how Kamala Harris is
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now the democratic nominee for president of the United
States. Joe Biden finally stepped down, and
it's being characterized by one side or the right side, I
would say, as we're not necessarily right, because I hear
similar things from folks on the left as well. But it's being characterized by a
side as essentially
(23:25):
a presidential coup by the Democratic Party to take out its
sitting president and put in someone who they wanted to put in,
which was VP Kamala Harris. And it's
being presented by another side as
this noble, great leader in Joe Biden
that's wise beyond his,
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I want to say, years, but, I mean, he's already very up there, right?
So I would say this, you know, wise,
selfless, lifelong politician who
has always said that he was never going
to not run for a second term, but decided for
the betterment of the country to step down. And he did this
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great, noble thing for the country to put Kamala in place
and have a better chance at defeating former President Donald
Trump. I personally don't think it's either one of those two extremes.
I think it was a combination of the
pressure that Biden felt and more so the
folks around him. Cause I do think to some extent, he's kind
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of checked out, whether from the decades and
decades of political service or whether it's from
cognitive decline or a combination of both. I
think it's something that he begrudgingly did. And I also don't think
it was just a straight up, you know, coup takeover of
him. You know, they're put him in a dark room and told him, you're
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not gonna be president anymore, buddy. I don't think it's that either. So it's like
somewhere in between. But anyway, Kamala is now the
nominee for president of the United States. And she had
a debate with former President Donald Trump. And
Kamala did to Trump what Trump did to
Biden in their prior debate. How
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horrible and old and fuck, this is who we
have running on the democratic ticket. Joe Biden
came off after that debate with Donald Trump.
That realization moment, that moment of reckoning, if you
will. I feel that that's what everybody on the right
felt after Kamala just
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demolished Trump in that debate. And what's crazy is that, you know,
how, like an mma or boxing, like, once, like a fighter that
is undefeated, once he finally loses, other fighters
are able to, like, watch that tape and figure out the game plan that worked
to defeat that fighter.
Kamala did that to Trump. I feel that now
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anybody debates Trump, whether she. They actually do debate again, which is up in
the air, because I think CNN wants to do it in October. And
Trump, Kamala already said yes, Trump already said no because it's,
you know, early voting would have already started.
So he wants to do it sooner, which, I mean, we're already
towards the end of September. So it's like, that's essentially just saying no
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because I think he took such a large l. So that's like a
strategic move to, like, not debate again from his perspective. But
Kamala exposed how to beat Trump in a debate. How, you know, he did it
with Hillary, he did it with Biden, although Biden, like, held his own, like,
in the first ones, first time around. But he just,
you know, speaks over people, lies his ass off,
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you know, Lotus guy in the room seems like he's right even though he's
not. She turned all that on its head with a brilliant
strategy of just baiting him time and time again throughout the
debate into being the gross narcissist
that he is. He couldn't help himself, but
just constantly put his foot in his mouth time and time again. And she
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was just, like, masterfully baiting him into
going towards speaking about trivial things like the size of
his rallies and how big they are compared
to hers instead of speaking, you know, while he had an opportunity to
speak about the issues at the border
with millions of people pouring in, which isn't obviously,
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like a known issue, known win from a debate
perspective for the Republicans, he went away from that because she
baited him into speaking about the size of his crowds. So I feel like taking
that approach with Trump for any candidate moving forward. Like, that's how you
went through the debate. Now, me personally, I'm not the biggest Kamala fan early
on, like, the democratic primaries, when we elected
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Hillary, I kind of liked her, but I was more of a Tulsi
Gabbard. Andrew Yang I was leaning more in that
direction, but I don't feel the confidence in her that I feel I
should after being VP for four years
and her VP pick, which was
Minnesota governor Tim Waltz, doesn't add any degree of
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confidence to the ticket, in my opinion, either. Similar to how
JD Vance, the JD vance picked for Trump. I feel like that didn't move the
needle at all on his side. Not that vps generally do, but I feel
like they should. Right. We've also had more potential
assassination attempts on Trump, which is
scary. It's not, not something that any
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rational person wants. There was that one guy with, like, an
AK four or some sort of a, like, ar assault
rifle that was found near a golf
course that Trump was at and fled the scene. They caught him, arrested
him. He was something like, like three or 400 yards away from
where Trump was. Then there was another one that I just recently, today
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heard of, which was some sort of explosives
found near where Trump was or where he was going to
be or something like that. That's just fucking craziness, right?
And I definitely do not want a
president. Harris if it's directly
or indirectly a consequence of some
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shadowy powers that be
assassinating the competition. Now, where I'm at
personally is that I am
a lifelong New York Democrat that
feels that he does not have a political home.
Growing up, even though I was too young to vote, probably the
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earliest president that I remember would be Bill Clinton. In
retrospect, you know, still, you know, hindsight being 2020
and obviously knowing more from life experiences and things like
that, you know, that no president at all, or
I would even deem to say politicians in general are squeaky clean,
perfect, get everything right across the board. But there
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was a general, and again, coming from New York,
blue bubble that we live in, there was a
general, you know, the good guy won. The Democrat wonde after that,
after eight years of Bush, which, again, I was too young to vote for or
an election to vote in that Bush Cheney presidency
that got us into the decades long
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war on terror and poor decisions of going
into Iraq and just being straight up warhawks
and sending personal friends of mine
straight out of high school into war and possibly
to their deaths. It's like, I'm definitely not on the side of those guys.
And then President Obama, who I was proud and
(30:50):
happy and hopeful to vote for, which
ultimately I believe was the right decision for the
country at the time, but definitely was not without his faults.
To then the quote unquote corrective pendulum swinging back to the
right, seemingly as a response to the first black
president giving us a President Trump, which
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I think was a symptom of also the democratic party just
becoming more and more of the establishment, more and
more of the status quo, all that war hawk
conservative controlling of free
speech, et cetera, et cetera, that we didn't like about
the Bush and Cheney era, we're now seeing reflected in
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certain parts of our, the Democratic Party. And Trump
is a result of us getting that now. It's like we're,
we the Democratic Party. We are pro all these
wars and feeding the military industrial
complex and pro big pharma and
wanting to curb free speech. And it's like, shit just feels
(31:57):
backwards now. We're not completely backwards. Cause there's a lot of
that shit on the right side mainly, but
things just feel off. They feel wrong. And
speaking specifically about the ukrainian Russia war
or what's going on in Gaza, which if
you witnessing what's going on now in
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Gaza, it is absolutely
reprehensible. What happened in
October, the terrorist attack that happened in Israel in October
of last year, that led to
what we're currently seeing now. Definitely no condoning it,
our actions in America over the decades
(32:42):
as well as Israel's. But just speaking
about America specifically in, you know, playing world
police or not playing, being world police,
toppling over and putting in place pro
western governments throughout the Middle east,
funding resistance movements that ultimately lead
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to some of those. Not all, some of
those irreprehensible, terrorist,
indefensible acts of terrorist
organizations. If we just ignore our
part of our influence, at the very
least, but our part in that whole thing,
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we're just being willfully ignorant and are
never going to change anything. Nothing's going to change. Nothing has changed since I was
a little kid. You always hear to quote Tupac, there's war on the streets and
war in the Middle east, or, you know, peace in the Middle east, like, that
shit's been forever. But I say that to say that
if you witness what's going on in Gaza and think it's
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anything less than the genocide, you're burying your head in this
hand. And if you want to play semantics with the. With the word genocide,
here's my biggest beef of the whole thing. If you want to play semantics, you
know, it's not technically genocide. This, that, the other, whatever the. The argument that I
hear most from folks on the right and left that are
just want to paint everything black and white, good side and bad
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side, and completely ignore the gray, which is the vast majority
of this event. Diagram of the. The. This mosaic of what's going
on over there, I would say it's like 99% gray, like
half a percent white, half a percent black. Folks just want to paint the whole
shit black and white. The argument that gets to me most that I hear is,
well, if technically, you compare the stats
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of militant deaths versus civilian deaths, it's
not dissimilar than any other war that has been fought
throughout history. To me. I hear that and
I don't take that argument forward and think
or say, okay, so it's okay, then. So continue business
as usual. No, it's the exact opposite of that.
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It's, oh, shit. Every single other war that
we've ever fought in history, the history of the fucking world, we've been
wrong on. And not. We just America, just like we, as a
human species, we're doing this shit all wrong. That shouldn't
give you. It should give you pause. It shouldn't give you
reason to continue business as usual. But I
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digress. And all that
again, just to bring it back to politics here in
America. I think it's from. It's a testament of
being given the illusion of choice decade after decade,
election after election. Here in America, we have two candidates,
Democrat or the Republican, two candidates
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that truly have a shot in winning with the third party candidates
just being garnishes that are sprinkled around the election plate.
And I do, in my heart of hearts, believe that politics,
as idealistic as it sounds, is supposed to
be you voting your interest, you voting your
ideals, you voting your morals, you
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voting two and four, whatever issue or
issues impact you most and that you care about
most, and that translating into
candidates that mirror those beliefs in
the legislation that they champion, which ultimately
translates into the society that we want
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to see and live in. And I don't believe we'll
ever achieve that while we just have a good
enough pseudo version of our
ideals being shoehorned into
two choices. So, in terms of my vote come
November, I don't know who's getting it yet, I'll be honest.
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Although I live in New York, which is gonna go Democrat anyway,
but I'm not one of those. I don't believe that means that your vote
doesn't matter person. But I am definitely resigning
myself to voting third party.
And no, I do not believe that it's throwing away a vote.
I don't think of voting as gambling with the
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purpose of betting on the horse that you think is gonna win. That's the
wrong mentality. I believe. I also believe that
the. The thought of if you vote third party, it's benefiting
one side or the other, so you're technically voting for the other side.
I believe that's very short term thinking and
may be true short term, but I believe
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that, right or wrong, voting for a third party long
term and building up that momentum is
signaling to the fucked up political system
that we're in, which breeds all these
geopolitical situations that we're in, not to mention
all the negative things going on here at home. But I believe
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that it's signaling to that fucked up political
system that it needs to finally
begin changing, begin shifting
toward multiple parties that are
not just candidate versions of garnishes on the
ballot, but into viable choices. And
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that political state is what I would want to hand down
to my kids in future generations. And that's where I'm at with it,
folks. That's where I'm at with the current political state here in
America. In this episode's
installment of goats doing goat shit, we have an
unprecedented first time ever
(38:35):
official revocation of a previously
bestowed goats doing goat shit highest spun today
honor, which was once upon a time during episode
243 of the podcast, to be exact, presented to
Shawn P. Diddy Combs, aka the diddler. Now, for those
who don't know, the spun today goats doing goat shit
(38:57):
segment is to highlight folks who are goats,
aka greatest of all time. If you break goat up into an acronym,
shout out to LL Cool J for coining the terminal. But I like to highlight
goats within their own respective lanes, going above and
beyond and doing some goat shit, something that they
otherwise or necessarily didn't have to do for any type
(39:19):
of personal gain or for just a major
accomplishment that they achieved. And I previously gave Diddy the honor
in what seemed at the time as like, an altruistic
type of thing, in that he gave
back the publishing rights to prior bad
boy artists. Now, Diddy has a, you know, storied career
(39:41):
with bad boy records, establishing it, breaking artists
like Mace and Biggie,
Faith, little Kim and so many others.
The locks and a lot of artists, including the locks, Mace
all had beef with Diddy in terms when it came around to, like,
business dealings. He's always been known as a
(40:03):
ruthless businessman, which in part, I'm sure, you know,
got him to building his billion dollar empire. But
he took advantage of artists similar to
the environment, you know, the best practices at the
time, or business as usual at the time, of just raping artists
for their royalties, you know, signing
(40:25):
their rights away. You take ownership of the things that they
created, aka the publishing, which is a part of
that. But back in episode 243, you can go back and listen, I broke down
how dope it was that he actually, instead of still holding on to
those rights, gave it back to his artists. And I
kind of mentioned in that episode how that seemed like a
(40:47):
bit of maybe a guilty conscience or, you know, trying to
clean up his Persona for whatever reason. Which fast forward to now we know
why, at least in part. And also with
everything that's going on right now between Jay Z and Dame
Dash, and how Dame Dash put his
third ownership of Rockefeller Records, or, sorry, of the
(41:09):
publishing of Jay Z's first album, reasonable
doubt, he put it up for sale. And Jay Z
highlighted rule within the publishing
rights world. Something to the effect of
that after 35 years, the ownership goes back to the artist anyway.
I wonder how much of that publishing that Diddy originally gave
(41:30):
back was going back to the artists anyway, soon
since this was, you know, they're all. Their heydays were like back in
the nineties. So that's a whole nother layer to him
trying to portray himself as doing something that's like, not
as big of a deal as it was, or at least as
I took it to be. But aside from all that,
(41:53):
after the Cassie video comes out, where he's
literally beating the crap out of her in a public
hotel lobby, sorry, hallway, and you take that
egregious act and then contemplate if
that's what he does in public with cameras around. Imagine what he does in the
privacy of his own home when he thinks he's not being
(42:15):
recorded. And then you add all the shit that's
coming out now with the freak off and the alleged
pimping out of Justin Bieber
and hundreds and hundreds of cameras,
hidden cameras in different rooms at these
places where he would throw these, his houses, where he would throw these parties.
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And now he's like that Jeffrey Epstein of the hip
hop world, allegedly and apparently single
handedly responsible for a large p
and l line item related to baby
oil in Johnson and Johnson's financial
reporting. Just all that combined just sheds that
(43:00):
much more light on the type of person
that he was and is. And although I know this
will hurt more than any jail sentence
or financial burdens that are coming his way, but I
officially revoke the spun today goat doing
goat shit honor that was previously
(43:21):
awarded. And that is this episode segment of goats
doing goat shit. And
that, folks, was episode 270 of the Spun today podcast.
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I love you, Aidan. I love you, daddy.
I love you, Grayson. I love you, daddy.
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