November 10, 2024 • 50 mins
Welcome to another episode of the Spun Today Podcast! I’m your host, Tony Ortiz, and today we’re diving into the hotly debated 2024 US presidential election in Episode 273. We'll reflect on the election outcome, as Donald Trump secures victory against Kamala Harris, and I’ll share my personal voting experience and why I chose to support third-party candidate Cornel West over the major candidates.
In this episode, we’ll explore my frustrations with the two-party system and discuss the broader implications of third-party voting. We’ll also touch on key political issues such as the economy, foreign policy, reproductive rights, and the importance of political parties realigning with their core values. Additionally, I’ll offer insights and advice for both political parties as they navigate the shifting landscape of American politics.
Beyond politics, we'll delve into the creative and motivational aspects of staying informed and engaged, underscoring the power of podcasts in reaching and influencing voters. We'll also discuss media strategies, the significant role of influential figures like Elon Musk, and considerations for the future of political discourse.
As always, we have some exciting ways you can support Spun Today, including special offers from our sponsors like Athletic Greens. So, sit back, grab your headphones, and let’s get started on this enlightening and thought-provoking episode!
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What's up folks? What's going on? Welcome to the Spun Today Podcast,
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This is episode 273 of the Sponsor Day Podcast
and in this episode I am going to recap
the 2024 presidential election
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out, share some advice for what it's worth
for both the Democrats and Republicans moving
forward, and we'll let you know who I voted for.
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Elections Donald J. Trump, the former
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45th President of the United States, was ousted
by Joe Biden in 2020, was running
against Joe Biden's VP Kamala Harris
in 2024, and he beat Kamala Harris decisively
by getting and exceeding the 270 requisite electoral
college votes where he received
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301 versus Kamala's 226. He
also, surprising to some, not surprising to others,
won the popular vote with
74,168,456 votes
compared to
Kamala's 70,255,523
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votes. And these figures, if interested, are from a
Reuters article that we'll link to in the episode
notes. Now in a previous episode of this podcast,
I don't know if it was the last one or, or two or three episodes
ago, I made it clear that I was not
voting for either of these candidates. I have no
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confidence in either one. No complete confidence in either one. I gave
you guys my full spiel of feeling
like a lifelong Democrat that no
longer has a political home with how upside down and bizarre a
world the two parties have become. So if you're interested
in hearing all about that and me fleshing that stuff
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out, you know, feel free to go listen to that prior episode.
But I essentially resigned myself, decided months
ago that I was definitely voting third party. And I
fundamentally disagree with the ideology that
a vote for a third party is technically a vote
for either Democrats or Republicans, which
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living in New York, which is a deep blue state, the
electoral votes are going to Kamala anyway. So in that sense it quote
unquote doesn't matter. But I also don't agree with that
thought process, although I get it and
on paper it's practically true. But I think there's more to
voting than just that portion of it. The
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philosophy of voting, the civic duty of voting also matters.
And I think that ultimately, if you think
within the limit of the two party system that this
country has, Democrats and Republicans, and you
fast forward 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 decades
and you don't change that behavior pattern, 70 years from
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now, it's still going to be the same thing. And being
that voting is supposed to be a reflection
and affirmation of your views and your thoughts and your beliefs
represented through a candidate that holds
those values and virtues that you are voting for, then
that signal of what it is that you believe in, no matter
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how small or insignificant it may seem when drowned out
by the two behemoths that are the Democratic and Republican parties,
that signal is still valuable. That signal is still important.
That signal is still necessary to one day
gain the momentum to break the two party system, even
if it is 70 years down the line. And I get it, to
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some folks that might mean also it doesn't matter because it's
not in my lifetime. But to me, having kids and just
always thinking in forever terms, not just within
my lifetime, I think it matters. If something matters
500 years from now, it matters. But I digress. So
after some soul searching and a little research
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and reading the platforms that other candidates
that were in the race were running on candidates that were on the
ballot in some states, weren't in the ballot on most. Like in
New York for example, on the ballot we just had Kamala and
Trump. These other folks do make it on the ballot in other
states in itself is something that I hate because it's a, that's a
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byproduct of, in my estimation
of Democrats and Republicans alike
having the money and influence and attorneys
and entrenched know how and essentially the bandwidth to
just ballot challenge and signature, signature
challenge, all others from even being possible
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to get on the ballot, which is pretty fucked if you ask
me. And then I helped narrow down my choices by doing
a, an election survey by the
Telegraph that wasn't backed by
which the Telegraph itself isn't backed by any
political party or candidate. I think it was like sovereign
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Middle east money I believe as of 2022 or
2023 or something like that. But it was interesting. I've done these
in the past, but this one was interesting in that it'll give you
five different categories and then
give you four different candidates per
category. Candidate A, B, C and D, it calls them
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and then it breaks down the platform within that category. The
category, for example immigration, it'll tell
you it'll give you three or four bullet points
of what candidate A aims to
do on immigration first candidate B and then it says,
you know, pick A or B, then you pick one and then the one that
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you pick, let's say you picked A, then it'll give you candidate C's viewpoint and
you could pick C. Oh, I like C's actually better than A's or
I still like A's. Then it'll show you these and then at the end it
just ranks all your choices across. Immigration was one
category, the economy was another category, reproductive rights,
foreign policy and gender issues. And on
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immigration I leaned libertarian, which I
which I see myself leaning towards a lot in terms of the philosophy of some
libertarian folks that I listen to, like Dave Smith for
example, and I agree with a lot of their core
viewpoints but up until the whole
viewpoint of as little or no
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government as possible and like the should it work itself out
kind of. And again I could be wrong
on the fundamentals there most likely
am, but that's my outside looking and
understanding of it. Where Democrats are more big government,
well traditionally big government and more regulation to
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curb big business and Republicans are
more less government, smaller government
and more pro business to give more businesses and
corporations the reins. But yeah, going back to this survey
then with the Economy, I was more on the Democratic
side. Reproductive rights, I was
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on Team Cornel West. Foreign policy, I was also on Team
Cornel west. And gender issues also on Team Cornel West.
And Cornel West. So I was with him for like three out of the
five categories. And I like Cornel West. I've seen him on, you
know, like Bill Maher for example, for years. I wasn't thrilled about his
VP choice which was the co founders of blm.
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But again, don't know much about her. I don't know if she was the co
founder that was skimming and spying real estate properties
with the ELM donations and stuff like that. Maybe that was the other co
founder, but just across the board I thought all
the VP candidates were Trump with JD Vance and Kamala
with Tim Walz. None of those folks instill confidence
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anyway. So Cornel West's VP pick wasn't
a deal breaker for me either. And that's where my vote
went. So here are a few takeaways from
me and just some thoughts around
how it all went down and looking forward My hope for the
Democrats Again as a lifelong Democrat from New
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York, and I say that to highlight my bias more than anything
else, but I think how I feel is reflective about of
how a lot of Democrats feel, a lot of even
Republicans. Because it's not just the Democrats that seem to
have abandoned a lot of the traditional
liberal views. Republicans and more conservative folks
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seem to have adopted some of those views and swapped with Democrats
in some cases. Which goes back to the whole bizarro upside
down feeling that I mentioned in the intro.
But my hope for Democrats is that
they go back to the
ethos of who they were. The Democratic Party was
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always, you know, anti big corporation
and anti lobbyists and against Big
Pharma and big Tobacco and
checking these behemoth entities
doing harm to everyday people
for monetary gain. They're anti the
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military industrial complex and going to
war. And this time around it seems like
Democrats are more hawkish and funding the shit
out of the Ukraine war against
Russia and the Israeli
government's genocide against Gaza
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slash war against Hamas. And Kamala was
parading around with Liz Cheney who
endorsed Kamala Republican Liz Cheney,
daughter of Dick Cheney which was the
VP of George W. Bush and Satan reincarnate
Darth Vader himself that led us into
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the two longest decades long
wars in Iraq and Afghanistan completely
unnecessarily and for personal interest and
gain with Halliburton getting no bid contracts
to which he was the CEO of getting no bid contracts
to rebuild Iraq after they just blew it up for 20 years,
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killing hundreds of thousands in the process and
just feeding the military industrial complex. So his
spawn, his daughter Liz Cheney is who?
The Democrats, for some reason thought it was a great idea to say,
see, we got Liz Cheney support. I don't get it. Whatever the
strategy was there, you know, maybe to seem tough and on
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the world stage, you know, we, you know, not going to be soft.
We could do the whole war, war thing too. Whatever that strategy
was, it was incorrect, it was wrong, it did not
work. Your actual supporters, you know, lifelong
court Democrats, nobody liked that shit. Nobody
supported that. I feel like that was a big misstep. Go back to
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being the party of pro free speech and
anti censorship. How is Trump selling
the. Successfully selling the Republican Party as being
the party of free speech? That was always a
left thing. That was always a. Was it
ACLU or Anti Defamation League, one of those
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big civil rights groups, not civil rights or rights
groups that were so adamant about protecting
free speech that they also protected hate speech. They saw
the wisdom in understanding that if you do not allow free
speech for all, even folks that you disagree with, then it's
just going to come down to whoever's in power is just going to say the
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other side is hate speech, they can't speak anymore. Then when the pendulum
swings, same thing now that's the other side is,
you know, hate speech, they can't speak anymore. Censor them. And you got to keep
the same energy across the board. Like the ACLU defended the
free speech and the rights of neo Nazis and white
supremacists, famously, as seen in the
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1978 Skokie case. Skokie, Illinois, I believe. Case.
It just says a Skokie case here. And on the other side
defended the free speech rights
of BTQ groups. Then
on the flip side, the free speech of conservative
anti gay groups. Then on the flip side, civil
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rights groups flip to the other side. NRA and the
gun rights go back to being the party of freedom of speech.
So that's two big things, right? Go back to being
the anti forever wars and policing
the globe. Because I feel like a lot of the independents and libertarians
that wound up going to Trump versus
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Kamala did so largely on that issue. And also I want
to highlight, we got to stop making this such a partisan binary
thing because now, because Trump is now again
salesman, sleazy salesman to the core, selling the Republican
Party as the, you know, anti war
will stop all the wars party, which to his credit
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didn't start any new wars. But still kept all the ones, all the existing
ones going when he was president. So you do technically have to give him
credit for that, although his volatile way of
governing and fucking up our foreign relations with
allies and just destabilizing. I don't think
that bill has come due yet. So time will tell there. But
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to his credit, he didn't start any new wars. But going back to the
point, just because they are selling themselves as that now
I feel like Democrats are like, all right, so now we got to be the
pro war party. Like, no, no. That should
validate that you were right all along
or traditionally and good, you won those folks over.
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Now they see that we shouldn't be in these forever
wars and policing the world, policing the globe. Don't switch
up. And I'll say that you're the pro war party and act as
if by funding all these wars. Stick to
your values, go back to being the party that you were.
So that's a big one there, the pro free speech and here's a big one
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moving forward. Do
more podcasts this election
cycle was coined by many Shout out to
Crystal from Breaking Points and Saga
as the podcast election. Both candidates to the accredited
podcast. But Trump ran the gamut of
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podcast. I thought he was promoting an album at one point
with how many pods I saw him on, whereas the Democrats seem
to be too calculated with it. And it seems
that backfired. Like Kamala did the one on one with
Charlemagne and the Breakfast Club and the Caller Daddy
podcast. She did snl, which is great. This kid
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was dope with my Rudolph. But I feel like it stopped
there. It was a calculated decision to not
do certain shows Trump did, to name a
few. Theo Vons. He did the Knuck
Boys. He did flagrant. He did Rogan, as
Rogan mentioned. According to Rogan, Kamala's camp reached out
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and wanted to do the pot as well. He absolutely
agreed. But then they gave terms that he would have to
fly out to Washington D.C. and do a 45
minute podcast. And Rogan was like,
no, this is literally the biggest in this part. He didn't say
obviously, but he was like, the show is, you know, everybody flies
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here does it in Austin for three hours. That's the point
of it. People can see you as a human being, you know,
not just a bunch of edited talking points and segments and shit.
And I thought that was a huge misstep not to do it, not not to
do Rogan. And she was in Texas at one point. She was in
Houston when she did the thing with Beyonce and Kelly Rowland and stuff like that.
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But folks, candidates, Democrats especially of the future,
do more podcasts. Traditional legacy media is all but
dead, and I don't want that to sound like
hyperbole. It's not completely dead. There's a place
where there's demographic for it, but it is dead in the way that
newspapers went from being the sole
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way that everyone got their news and information about
the world to where they are now. No
longer the main source of news for anyone.
They're still there. They still have a core base of folks that read
physical newspapers every day. But it's a candle in the sun.
Podcasts are where your future
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voters and current voters, that's where they
are. So here's just a few stats of legacy media
this election cycle verse podcast Kamala's
largest interview this election cycle,
largest by terms of viewers, was on Fox
News, where she had 7.1 million
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views. Earlier that day, Fox also had
Trump's town hall and his views for that town hall drew
2.9 million views. Prior to that, on September
18, Trump had an interview with Greg Gutfeld on Fox.
And I'm citing Fox, by the way, because Fox versus CNN and
MSNBC has a much larger, larger audience.
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But Trump's interview averaged 4.9 million
viewers. For contrast,
Kamala's podcast on Caller Daddy
that The that's around 800 to
900,000 views on YouTube,
which is a fraction of the traffic that most
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all podcasts get. Most podcasts are consumed audio
only, so through Spotify, Apple Podcasts,
etc. And then much lesser so on
YouTube. So I'm comparing again for the legacy media,
the Fox News interviews, the tv, that's where they're going to get their
biggest concentration. And for the podcast numbers, I'm showing where they're
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getting their smallest concentration. So I'm giving the
benefit there in the comparison to Fox because if
you pull up those interviews, for example, on the
Fox News YouTube channel,
it's a fraction of those numbers that I just mentioned. So
Kamala's Call Her Daddy podcast on YouTube was
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is around 800k. Then let's
go to the big boy podcasts. Trump on
Theovon, 14 million views. Trump on
Flagrant, 8 million views. And again this 8
million and 40 million, both of which are
a lot more just on YouTube views, both
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of which are a lot more than the views that any of the
legacy media channels got. These are a
fraction of the listeners that listen to those episodes on
Theovon and on Flagrant, because the majority of podcast
listeners still Listen audio
only, Spotify and Apple
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podcasts and obviously other podcasters. So it's more
than 8 million and more than 14 million views, just to be
clear. But even if we say that it's only YouTube and
only those 14 million 80 million, it's already a lot more.
Now when you look at Trump on Rogan, on the
JRE, on YouTube alone, 47
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million views, then on X,
because YouTube was apparently shadow banning and throttling the
episode, supposedly they were like a lot of clips and
videos of people posting, hey look, I'm searching JRE Trump and nothing's coming
up. So they also streamed it on
X on Twitter. So the same Trump episode
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on Twitter got 22 million views.
And again, I can't emphasize that underscore enough. The
47 million views plus the 22 million views, you
know, maybe some folks saw it twice, once on each platform, which
habitually I don't think makes sense, but let's call it 60
million instead of 69. That 60 million, those
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60 million views is a fraction of the number of people that
actually listened to that episode. The way Obama fucked up the
political, political game. And I mean that not
negatively, I mean how he fucked up the status quo and disrupted
shit when he ran by leveraging social media and Facebook ads
and stuff like that and galvanized a shitload of younger
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people to vote. Podcasts definitely had that influence this time
around, I feel, and will
much more so moving forward. Do more podcasts
go where the people are and stop.
Democrats especially, stop throwing the baby out with
the bathwater. Stop demonizing folks that
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are largely on your side just because they deviate
on and don't agree with you on every single
thing. Rogan, for example, is like shat
on and you know, demonized as like some right wing
dangerous nut job when he has been
self admittedly Democrat his whole life. Always
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voted Democrat, fucking endorsed, endorsed Bernie Sanders, which is
damn near socialist if you, if you hear some folks tell
it, it was pro universal basic income,
pro choice on abortion, pro
legalizing weed and all other fucking drugs. So he's even more
left than most folks on that issue. But because
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he's pro second amendment and hunts, you
know, oh, he's a right wing Nazi. It's like, all
right, relax guys, use the feedback, use the signals that
you got from this election to course correct,
not to dig in your heels and go deeper into the wrong direction.
Chris Cuomo said this and I agree with him. And he was speaking to
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the PC culture and the wokeness.
He's like, we have too much P and not enough
C. So too much political, not enough correctness. He said we
need to put more energy into addressing the problem
instead of defining the language around what the problem
is because that's an extension of Wokeism
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and you. And by you he meant the Democratic Party,
you don't have to agree, but you have to realize
that that ideology beat your ass in a way that
you are shocked by. And I thought that was a very salient point that he
made. Musk is another one. He's a darling
billionaire of the left all his life. Like a.
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Mark Cuban is one of the most brilliant thinkers of our time
and innovators and has brought to
fruition half a dozen or more
human species impacting
innovations that will forever alter
our realities. From the ubiquitousness of
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electric vehicles with Teslas
and the influence that that possibility
had on other car manufacturers to the
self driving, the reality of a self driving future
that we seem to be heading towards. To neural
link and where that's going to be fucking brain
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implants where we can interface with a chip that's in
our brain. To the innovations in space travel,
the efficiency gains of just reusable
rocket boosters to Starlink which has
more satellites in space to date
than any other single entity, including countries,
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including the U.S. u.S. Satellites and any other country satellites
and is able to provide in doing so high
speed Internet to places that otherwise couldn't have
it and where that's going to be. And it's just insane. All
pro life champion things. It's
literally a virtue signal to drive a Tesla and you
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know, be snooty and you know, say I care about the
environment, you don't. So the dopest license plate actually the
other day, or not the other day, it was months ago, but I always remember
this girl was driving a Tesla and the license plate said
E Gas. E
www Gas. But yeah, but then
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you know, he buys Twitter out the,
you know, via the Twitter files and did, did
so through reputable journalists which nobody could shit on their
credentials. He outed things like
how the FBI was meddling and
asking and trying and successfully in some cases doing
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so to censor certain stories like the
Hunt Hunter Biden laptop story around the time during, you know,
Trump and Biden's election and how they had a direct
portal into Twitter itself. The government
did. And that led to the domino effect of, you know,
Mark Zuckerberg on Rogan actually saying
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how yeah, you know, yeah, there is a, there is or was
a protocol in place with the government, you know, reaching out and
flagging certain things and letting us know things that could be dangerous, things
that weren't. But then when they look behind that, it's,
you know, to their benefit, to a specific party's benefit, usually the
left and like that. And anyway, I digress. Once Elon did
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that, you know, now he's a piece of. And the
left doesn't like him anymore. So you throw the baby out with the bathwater, you
forget everything else. And because he highlighted something
that we shouldn't want as a people, you know, something similar
to WikiLeaks with Julian Assange
and how he uncovered all the negative shit that we didn't know about with the
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Bush and Cheney's and things going on in Iraq, Afghanistan
and then Edward Snowden under Obama through the
Guardian and Glenn Greenwald and highlighting the surveillance of
that the government was doing on its own citizens and denying
it until Edward Snowden blew it up. Those are
positive things that those folks did. Elon did a similar thing
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just at this side. It was against the. The left,
essentially. We shouldn't want that shadowy type of shit to go
on within our government, regardless of the side that
it's on. It sucks that it was on the left, you know, being someone from
the left, but it is what it is. We shouldn't want that. Keep the same
energy, stop throwing the baby out with the bathwater. And
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honestly, you shouldn't want to win that way. I don't want to win
that way. Democrats should not want to win that way. If you have to coerce
and essentially cheat and fuck Bernie out of being the
Democratic nominee in favor of the more
establishment candidate at the time, which was Hillary, which seemed more convenient
if you have to swap out Biden for Kamala
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without giving the chance for a true primary, because in your
estimation, you might wind up with a candidate that's less favorable to the
powers that be within your party. If you have to leverage your own versions of,
you know, disingenuine and misinformation under the guise
of, but we are truly the good guys, and that's why we're doing it. That's
why we're being underhanded, then truthfully. You don't deserve to win. You're just as bad
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as the other side. I do not want to win that way. Democrats
shouldn't want to win that way. If I have to cheat to win, I rather
not win. Go back to the drawing board,
recalibrate and do things correctly, do things the right way, the
way it should be done, and make it so that you
deserve to win. And then it's also a
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bad chess move also, because then Elon is someone
hugely influential in his own right. Then he says, all right, fuck you guys, then
I'm gonna support the other guy. It's no bueno.
Now, a couple things that worry me about Trump
is that if we have more of what we had the first time around,
we're gonna go back to divisiveness and bullshit.
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And again, his
destabilizing approach to
things. The I don't want to play anymore, so I'm going to take my ball
and go home unless you play how I want you to play type of approach.
His lack of diplomacy in that way, or at least, you know,
that's how it seems. And perception is fucking reality.
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But I think that is a very dangerous thing. His short
term thinking, his transactional nature,
his narcissistic tendencies. Sam Harris
highlights this how, because he's so transactional,
it's kind of like he'll default to, you know, what's in it for me
in scenarios when negotiating with these foreign powers,
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like, he wouldn't put it past him to make a deal that benefits him
above the American people. That type of shit worries me. And
like I was saying, the short term gains. So
thinking along the lines of, again, to look good, to
feed his own narcissism, if you will. Not
thinking long term as you should as the leader of a country. You
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know, you have this leadership role for four years,
but you should be thinking about the next 100 years
and playing into that longer goal. I feel like with him, it's more
like, nah, I'm just gonna, you know, drill right here, get some
oil to make everything cheaper for now. And if there's none
left after I'm gone, then whatever, you guys figure that out. You know what I
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mean? I feel like it's that type of mentality
when it comes to him, and hopefully I'm wrong, but I think that's
a negative. I think that worries me. And you see folks on the right
gaslighting with all the so blowy
racist shit that he says, and when he fucks around
about, you know, being a dictator for a day and maybe I won't
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leave. And the folks already gaslight and
say, you know, don't listen to what he says. You know, he speaks in hyperbole,
you know, listen to what's in his heart and what he actually does. I think
that's, that's bullshit. That's, that's
gaslighting akin to how the left
gaslights or was gaslighting about Joe
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Biden. And, you know, when we see him, you know, mumbling and
fumbling and falling and cognitively
in decline and them saying, oh, no, but behind, you know, don't, don't
worry about that. How he looks at Pollock, because behind closed doors, he's sharp as
attack. It's like, all right, you both gaslighting. You're both full of
shit and bullshitting on both sides, like, cut the shit.
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And so the health of the economy worries me under Trump, ironically,
because a lot of folks champion him. As you know, the economy was good on
him, but the debt of the country is out of
control and exacerbated under Trump. And what's going up even
before COVID because a lot of it has to do with COVID obviously, and
stimulus checks. But then that.
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I personally blame Trump in a way
because that. For the pandemic, I'm saying
because the NIH was doing gain of function
research in the Wuhan lab in China, where the virus
came from. I think that's without a doubt clear.
However, they were doing that shit under Obama,
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and Obama cut the funding for it. It was on
some. You what? Are you guys fucking crazy? You're like making super viruses
here. No, we're not paying for that anymore. You're not doing that anymore.
And then Trump comes into office and he says, I want to
undo everything Obama did, because fuck him, I'm the new president. And starts
funding them again. And then fast forward a year
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or a few months, whatever it was, a fucking super virus comes out of that
lab. So in that way, it is his fault, which
again, ties to the whole. When your back's against the wall,
when you're not sure what decision to make, or when you make hasty decisions, stuff
like that, you fall back on your character. And if your character is rooted in
narcissism and fuck the other guy, I'm the one that wants to look good. We
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get this short term gains so people could feel good in the
moment. That backfires long term. So that stuff worries
me. And the other big worry of mine under.
Under Trump is that I personally think would be
negative. But again, this is more of a values thing,
is the Supreme Court and the potential for another one,
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maybe two appointments for Trump, which
is unheard of. It was unheard of that he had so many last time. And
he flipped the Supreme Court, conservative
leaning, I think it's five to four,
but that's how we lost Roe v. Wade, the abortion
protection rights. But under him, he'll have
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possibly two other Justices retiring
or God forbid, dying under his watch. And then he'll have to reappoint. He'll
stack that conservativeness even more. And that's where the long
term, you know, course of the country shift
happens most, I feel. But I want to end on a positive note.
So a few positives that I feel can come from
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a Trump presidency circling back to
some of the folks that he has around him, which are and
were actually lifelong Democrats
like in Elon Musk, his innovation, his mind,
his efficiency ness. Is that
a word, efficiency ness or his efficiency. It's
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good to have that on Team America. I believe so.
Definitely would be interesting to see what comes out of that.
Although I am an Elon fan, even though I don't
completely agree with him politically as of late, even though I am
a fan, I, it does make me weary
that his and I think this might be part of
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his, part of the math in his brain when it comes to, you know,
backing, backing Trump and, and so forth.
You know, it's not just because the left shat on him and demonize
them, but it's in his two main
companies interest to be on the winning team, to
be, you know, within the orbit of Trump. SpaceX
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gets funding and has contracts with NASA, with
the Environmental Protection Agency, with the Department
of Defense, with the Department of Transportation,
with the Department of Homeland Security,
Department of Commerce, the Department of State. Tesla
also has contracts with the Department of State, the Department of
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Energy. Like he's very intertwined with
the federal government and funding as is.
So I'm a little weary there. I think it's a, oh, it's a net
positive, but I'm a little, little weary. Then another
positive that I feel could be and it's more related to again
another lifelong Democrat that
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is now within Trump's orbit is RFK
Jr initially when he was actually running as an
independent, he was like my placeholder. Okay, I'm probably going to
vote for RFK Jr just based on again tons of podcasts
that he was on and hearing him articulate his
ideas and policies and platform and
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just view on the world and things. Up until
his hawkish approach to the Middle East
I was with him and then he wound up dropping out and backing
Trump. So obviously didn't get my vote anyway. But I
don't agree with him on everything obviously. But I do
like his, his Make America
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Healthy Again, his MAHA campaign,
specifically when it comes to the fda. And we're going to read you
guys a tweet of his from
recently, from a couple weeks ago, which think
highlight where he's coming from. And he says,
quote, FDA's war on public health is about to
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end. This includes its aggressive suppression of
psychedelics, peptides, stem cells, raw milk,
hyperbaric therapies, chelating compounds,
iberin, hydrochloroquine, vitamins, clean food,
sunshine, exercise, nutraceuticals, and anything
else that advances human health and can't
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be patented by pharma. If you work
for the FDA and are part of this corrupt system, I
have two messages for you. One, preserve your
records, and two, pack your bags. Kind of like that
energy. I can't front. I like that energy
specifically, again, when it comes to the fda, because although you
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obviously need a Food and Drug Administration and
fda, I don't like the fact that if you look at the board
of the fda, you'll see executives from Coca
Cola and other food and beverage
companies and pharmaceutical companies, and vice
versa. Folks that used to work at the fda, it's like a revolving door. Get
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a nice cushy deal, a nice position. Over at
Pfizer, for example, surprisingly, after,
you know, helping get some approvals through the FDA
system. And if the FDA was like, infallible,
I never did anything wrong, that would be great. But the fda,
I think it's a year or every five years or something like that, a third,
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one third. So out of 100 drugs that
they approve and put out, they have to recall
33 every year or every five years, whatever the status.
But it's like they're wrong like a third of the time, essentially,
is what that breaks down to, to me. So it's not to demonize and say
that, that, you know, they have to be abolished or some shit like that. But
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clearly it could use some cleaning up. And also I recently found out
that, for example, the
FDA, this country, allows
or has something like 100 or
1800 chemicals in our foods. You know, the.
If you look at the ingredients list behind like a cereal box and
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has yellow 5 and red 4 and stuff like that.
A bunch of chemicals that are within our foods,
the vast majority of which are not allowed, they're illegal
for those same companies to include
in their products. Overseas in other countries,
other developed countries, in England, for example, or in Canada, for example,
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a box of Froot Loops here in the US versus a box of
Fruit Loops in Canada. Two completely different
compounds and components. Other countries like Canada, for example,
they have like 300 chemicals or 400 chemicals that
are allowed in their food system.
We have over a thousand. And we're a very
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unhealthy people. You know, we're very Americans are,
we're overweight, diabetes,
hypertension, which I
myself have cancer. All this at
higher rates in other countries. This could have something to do with it. So I
think some positive can come out of that relationship. And also
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Tulsi Gabbard, which I like, which got
my vote in the Democratic primary when she was running for
president. And her, you know, personal
experience as a Democratic congresswoman for eight
years, serving overseas in Iraq
in the medical unit. But she has a very, you know, anti
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forever war, military industrial complex,
you know, firsthand experience view, but very
anti war and overthrowing regimes,
overthrowing governments and putting in your own puppet government. She's against
all that, which I'm for. No idea what role she will
ultimately play, but she is within that
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orbit now. She did endorse Trump in again, another
scenario of a popular Democrat went
against the quote, unquote, Democratic machine, spoke up against
Hillary Clinton, and then Hillary winds up calling
her, you know, a puppet for, for Putin or
something like that. And then all thems turned their back on her
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and it was another, you know, all right, you, I'm gonna
support the other guy then it's just like high school, I swear to
God. But yeah, hopefully Trump this time focuses
on legacy. You know, he's not gonna get another term after this.
When he has this four years, hopefully it'll be less
contentious, more shit gets done. Maybe he'll focus on
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infrastructure and building. You know, he's a by trade, you know, a
real estate guy. Implement that into building up home
that people see that affects a quality of life, everyday life,
gets the right people in his cabinet or better people than last
time and fucking hope for the best. That's my hope for him
and his administration and my hope for
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Democrats. Again, just to underscore
before I sign off, don't continue Whatever fucking strategy you
are doing. Had it right on a lot of things for a long
time. Go back to that.
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Elections Donald J. Trump, the former
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45th President of the United States, was ousted
by Joe Biden in 2020, was running
against Joe Biden's VP Kamala Harris
in 2024, and he beat Kamala Harris decisively
by getting and exceeding the 270 requisite electoral
college votes where he received
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301 versus Kamala's 226. He
also, surprising to some, not surprising to others,
won the popular vote with
74,168,456 votes
compared to
Kamala's 70,255,523
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votes. And these figures, if interested, are from a
Reuters article that we'll link to in the episode
notes. Now in a previous episode of this podcast,
I don't know if it was the last one or, or two or three episodes
ago, I made it clear that I was not
voting for either of these candidates. I have no
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confidence in either one. No complete confidence in either one. I gave
you guys my full spiel of feeling
like a lifelong Democrat that no
longer has a political home with how upside down and bizarre a
world the two parties have become. So if you're interested
in hearing all about that and me fleshing that stuff
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out, you know, feel free to go listen to that prior episode.
But I essentially resigned myself, decided months
ago that I was definitely voting third party. And I
fundamentally disagree with the ideology that
a vote for a third party is technically a vote
for either Democrats or Republicans, which
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living in New York, which is a deep blue state, the
electoral votes are going to Kamala anyway. So in that sense it quote
unquote doesn't matter. But I also don't agree with that
thought process, although I get it and
on paper it's practically true. But I think there's more to
voting than just that portion of it. The
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philosophy of voting, the civic duty of voting also matters.
And I think that ultimately, if you think
within the limit of the two party system that this
country has, Democrats and Republicans, and you
fast forward 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 decades
and you don't change that behavior pattern, 70 years from
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now, it's still going to be the same thing. And being
that voting is supposed to be a reflection
and affirmation of your views and your thoughts and your beliefs
represented through a candidate that holds
those values and virtues that you are voting for, then
that signal of what it is that you believe in, no matter
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how small or insignificant it may seem when drowned out
by the two behemoths that are the Democratic and Republican parties,
that signal is still valuable. That signal is still important.
That signal is still necessary to one day
gain the momentum to break the two party system, even
if it is 70 years down the line. And I get it, to
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some folks that might mean also it doesn't matter because it's
not in my lifetime. But to me, having kids and just
always thinking in forever terms, not just within
my lifetime, I think it matters. If something matters
500 years from now, it matters. But I digress. So
after some soul searching and a little research
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and reading the platforms that other candidates
that were in the race were running on candidates that were on the
ballot in some states, weren't in the ballot on most. Like in
New York for example, on the ballot we just had Kamala and
Trump. These other folks do make it on the ballot in other
states in itself is something that I hate because it's a, that's a
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byproduct of, in my estimation
of Democrats and Republicans alike
having the money and influence and attorneys
and entrenched know how and essentially the bandwidth to
just ballot challenge and signature, signature
challenge, all others from even being possible
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to get on the ballot, which is pretty fucked if you ask
me. And then I helped narrow down my choices by doing
a, an election survey by the
Telegraph that wasn't backed by
which the Telegraph itself isn't backed by any
political party or candidate. I think it was like sovereign
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Middle east money I believe as of 2022 or
2023 or something like that. But it was interesting. I've done these
in the past, but this one was interesting in that it'll give you
five different categories and then
give you four different candidates per
category. Candidate A, B, C and D, it calls them
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and then it breaks down the platform within that category. The
category, for example immigration, it'll tell
you it'll give you three or four bullet points
of what candidate A aims to
do on immigration first candidate B and then it says,
you know, pick A or B, then you pick one and then the one that
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you pick, let's say you picked A, then it'll give you candidate C's viewpoint and
you could pick C. Oh, I like C's actually better than A's or
I still like A's. Then it'll show you these and then at the end it
just ranks all your choices across. Immigration was one
category, the economy was another category, reproductive rights,
foreign policy and gender issues. And on
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immigration I leaned libertarian, which I
which I see myself leaning towards a lot in terms of the philosophy of some
libertarian folks that I listen to, like Dave Smith for
example, and I agree with a lot of their core
viewpoints but up until the whole
viewpoint of as little or no
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government as possible and like the should it work itself out
kind of. And again I could be wrong
on the fundamentals there most likely
am, but that's my outside looking and
understanding of it. Where Democrats are more big government,
well traditionally big government and more regulation to
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curb big business and Republicans are
more less government, smaller government
and more pro business to give more businesses and
corporations the reins. But yeah, going back to this survey
then with the Economy, I was more on the Democratic
side. Reproductive rights, I was
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on Team Cornel West. Foreign policy, I was also on Team
Cornel west. And gender issues also on Team Cornel West.
And Cornel West. So I was with him for like three out of the
five categories. And I like Cornel West. I've seen him on, you
know, like Bill Maher for example, for years. I wasn't thrilled about his
VP choice which was the co founders of blm.
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But again, don't know much about her. I don't know if she was the co
founder that was skimming and spying real estate properties
with the ELM donations and stuff like that. Maybe that was the other co
founder, but just across the board I thought all
the VP candidates were Trump with JD Vance and Kamala
with Tim Walz. None of those folks instill confidence
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anyway. So Cornel West's VP pick wasn't
a deal breaker for me either. And that's where my vote
went. So here are a few takeaways from
me and just some thoughts around
how it all went down and looking forward My hope for the
Democrats Again as a lifelong Democrat from New
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York, and I say that to highlight my bias more than anything
else, but I think how I feel is reflective about of
how a lot of Democrats feel, a lot of even
Republicans. Because it's not just the Democrats that seem to
have abandoned a lot of the traditional
liberal views. Republicans and more conservative folks
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seem to have adopted some of those views and swapped with Democrats
in some cases. Which goes back to the whole bizarro upside
down feeling that I mentioned in the intro.
But my hope for Democrats is that
they go back to the
ethos of who they were. The Democratic Party was
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always, you know, anti big corporation
and anti lobbyists and against Big
Pharma and big Tobacco and
checking these behemoth entities
doing harm to everyday people
for monetary gain. They're anti the
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military industrial complex and going to
war. And this time around it seems like
Democrats are more hawkish and funding the shit
out of the Ukraine war against
Russia and the Israeli
government's genocide against Gaza
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slash war against Hamas. And Kamala was
parading around with Liz Cheney who
endorsed Kamala Republican Liz Cheney,
daughter of Dick Cheney which was the
VP of George W. Bush and Satan reincarnate
Darth Vader himself that led us into
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the two longest decades long
wars in Iraq and Afghanistan completely
unnecessarily and for personal interest and
gain with Halliburton getting no bid contracts
to which he was the CEO of getting no bid contracts
to rebuild Iraq after they just blew it up for 20 years,
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killing hundreds of thousands in the process and
just feeding the military industrial complex. So his
spawn, his daughter Liz Cheney is who?
The Democrats, for some reason thought it was a great idea to say,
see, we got Liz Cheney support. I don't get it. Whatever the
strategy was there, you know, maybe to seem tough and on
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the world stage, you know, we, you know, not going to be soft.
We could do the whole war, war thing too. Whatever that strategy
was, it was incorrect, it was wrong, it did not
work. Your actual supporters, you know, lifelong
court Democrats, nobody liked that shit. Nobody
supported that. I feel like that was a big misstep. Go back to
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being the party of pro free speech and
anti censorship. How is Trump selling
the. Successfully selling the Republican Party as being
the party of free speech? That was always a
left thing. That was always a. Was it
ACLU or Anti Defamation League, one of those
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big civil rights groups, not civil rights or rights
groups that were so adamant about protecting
free speech that they also protected hate speech. They saw
the wisdom in understanding that if you do not allow free
speech for all, even folks that you disagree with, then it's
just going to come down to whoever's in power is just going to say the
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other side is hate speech, they can't speak anymore. Then when the pendulum
swings, same thing now that's the other side is,
you know, hate speech, they can't speak anymore. Censor them. And you got to keep
the same energy across the board. Like the ACLU defended the
free speech and the rights of neo Nazis and white
supremacists, famously, as seen in the
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1978 Skokie case. Skokie, Illinois, I believe. Case.
It just says a Skokie case here. And on the other side
defended the free speech rights
of BTQ groups. Then
on the flip side, the free speech of conservative
anti gay groups. Then on the flip side, civil
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rights groups flip to the other side. NRA and the
gun rights go back to being the party of freedom of speech.
So that's two big things, right? Go back to being
the anti forever wars and policing
the globe. Because I feel like a lot of the independents and libertarians
that wound up going to Trump versus
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Kamala did so largely on that issue. And also I want
to highlight, we got to stop making this such a partisan binary
thing because now, because Trump is now again
salesman, sleazy salesman to the core, selling the Republican
Party as the, you know, anti war
will stop all the wars party, which to his credit
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didn't start any new wars. But still kept all the ones, all the existing
ones going when he was president. So you do technically have to give him
credit for that, although his volatile way of
governing and fucking up our foreign relations with
allies and just destabilizing. I don't think
that bill has come due yet. So time will tell there. But
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to his credit, he didn't start any new wars. But going back to the
point, just because they are selling themselves as that now
I feel like Democrats are like, all right, so now we got to be the
pro war party. Like, no, no. That should
validate that you were right all along
or traditionally and good, you won those folks over.
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Now they see that we shouldn't be in these forever
wars and policing the world, policing the globe. Don't switch
up. And I'll say that you're the pro war party and act as
if by funding all these wars. Stick to
your values, go back to being the party that you were.
So that's a big one there, the pro free speech and here's a big one
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moving forward. Do
more podcasts this election
cycle was coined by many Shout out to
Crystal from Breaking Points and Saga
as the podcast election. Both candidates to the accredited
podcast. But Trump ran the gamut of
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podcast. I thought he was promoting an album at one point
with how many pods I saw him on, whereas the Democrats seem
to be too calculated with it. And it seems
that backfired. Like Kamala did the one on one with
Charlemagne and the Breakfast Club and the Caller Daddy
podcast. She did snl, which is great. This kid
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was dope with my Rudolph. But I feel like it stopped
there. It was a calculated decision to not
do certain shows Trump did, to name a
few. Theo Vons. He did the Knuck
Boys. He did flagrant. He did Rogan, as
Rogan mentioned. According to Rogan, Kamala's camp reached out
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and wanted to do the pot as well. He absolutely
agreed. But then they gave terms that he would have to
fly out to Washington D.C. and do a 45
minute podcast. And Rogan was like,
no, this is literally the biggest in this part. He didn't say
obviously, but he was like, the show is, you know, everybody flies
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here does it in Austin for three hours. That's the point
of it. People can see you as a human being, you know,
not just a bunch of edited talking points and segments and shit.
And I thought that was a huge misstep not to do it, not not to
do Rogan. And she was in Texas at one point. She was in
Houston when she did the thing with Beyonce and Kelly Rowland and stuff like that.
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But folks, candidates, Democrats especially of the future,
do more podcasts. Traditional legacy media is all but
dead, and I don't want that to sound like
hyperbole. It's not completely dead. There's a place
where there's demographic for it, but it is dead in the way that
newspapers went from being the sole
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way that everyone got their news and information about
the world to where they are now. No
longer the main source of news for anyone.
They're still there. They still have a core base of folks that read
physical newspapers every day. But it's a candle in the sun.
Podcasts are where your future
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voters and current voters, that's where they
are. So here's just a few stats of legacy media
this election cycle verse podcast Kamala's
largest interview this election cycle,
largest by terms of viewers, was on Fox
News, where she had 7.1 million
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views. Earlier that day, Fox also had
Trump's town hall and his views for that town hall drew
2.9 million views. Prior to that, on September
18, Trump had an interview with Greg Gutfeld on Fox.
And I'm citing Fox, by the way, because Fox versus CNN and
MSNBC has a much larger, larger audience.
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But Trump's interview averaged 4.9 million
viewers. For contrast,
Kamala's podcast on Caller Daddy
that The that's around 800 to
900,000 views on YouTube,
which is a fraction of the traffic that most
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all podcasts get. Most podcasts are consumed audio
only, so through Spotify, Apple Podcasts,
etc. And then much lesser so on
YouTube. So I'm comparing again for the legacy media,
the Fox News interviews, the tv, that's where they're going to get their
biggest concentration. And for the podcast numbers, I'm showing where they're
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getting their smallest concentration. So I'm giving the
benefit there in the comparison to Fox because if
you pull up those interviews, for example, on the
Fox News YouTube channel,
it's a fraction of those numbers that I just mentioned. So
Kamala's Call Her Daddy podcast on YouTube was
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is around 800k. Then let's
go to the big boy podcasts. Trump on
Theovon, 14 million views. Trump on
Flagrant, 8 million views. And again this 8
million and 40 million, both of which are
a lot more just on YouTube views, both
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of which are a lot more than the views that any of the
legacy media channels got. These are a
fraction of the listeners that listen to those episodes on
Theovon and on Flagrant, because the majority of podcast
listeners still Listen audio
only, Spotify and Apple
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podcasts and obviously other podcasters. So it's more
than 8 million and more than 14 million views, just to be
clear. But even if we say that it's only YouTube and
only those 14 million 80 million, it's already a lot more.
Now when you look at Trump on Rogan, on the
JRE, on YouTube alone, 47
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million views, then on X,
because YouTube was apparently shadow banning and throttling the
episode, supposedly they were like a lot of clips and
videos of people posting, hey look, I'm searching JRE Trump and nothing's coming
up. So they also streamed it on
X on Twitter. So the same Trump episode
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on Twitter got 22 million views.
And again, I can't emphasize that underscore enough. The
47 million views plus the 22 million views, you
know, maybe some folks saw it twice, once on each platform, which
habitually I don't think makes sense, but let's call it 60
million instead of 69. That 60 million, those
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60 million views is a fraction of the number of people that
actually listened to that episode. The way Obama fucked up the
political, political game. And I mean that not
negatively, I mean how he fucked up the status quo and disrupted
shit when he ran by leveraging social media and Facebook ads
and stuff like that and galvanized a shitload of younger
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people to vote. Podcasts definitely had that influence this time
around, I feel, and will
much more so moving forward. Do more podcasts
go where the people are and stop.
Democrats especially, stop throwing the baby out with
the bathwater. Stop demonizing folks that
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are largely on your side just because they deviate
on and don't agree with you on every single
thing. Rogan, for example, is like shat
on and you know, demonized as like some right wing
dangerous nut job when he has been
self admittedly Democrat his whole life. Always
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voted Democrat, fucking endorsed, endorsed Bernie Sanders, which is
damn near socialist if you, if you hear some folks tell
it, it was pro universal basic income,
pro choice on abortion, pro
legalizing weed and all other fucking drugs. So he's even more
left than most folks on that issue. But because
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he's pro second amendment and hunts, you
know, oh, he's a right wing Nazi. It's like, all
right, relax guys, use the feedback, use the signals that
you got from this election to course correct,
not to dig in your heels and go deeper into the wrong direction.
Chris Cuomo said this and I agree with him. And he was speaking to
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the PC culture and the wokeness.
He's like, we have too much P and not enough
C. So too much political, not enough correctness. He said we
need to put more energy into addressing the problem
instead of defining the language around what the problem
is because that's an extension of Wokeism
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and you. And by you he meant the Democratic Party,
you don't have to agree, but you have to realize
that that ideology beat your ass in a way that
you are shocked by. And I thought that was a very salient point that he
made. Musk is another one. He's a darling
billionaire of the left all his life. Like a.
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Mark Cuban is one of the most brilliant thinkers of our time
and innovators and has brought to
fruition half a dozen or more
human species impacting
innovations that will forever alter
our realities. From the ubiquitousness of
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electric vehicles with Teslas
and the influence that that possibility
had on other car manufacturers to the
self driving, the reality of a self driving future
that we seem to be heading towards. To neural
link and where that's going to be fucking brain
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implants where we can interface with a chip that's in
our brain. To the innovations in space travel,
the efficiency gains of just reusable
rocket boosters to Starlink which has
more satellites in space to date
than any other single entity, including countries,
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including the U.S. u.S. Satellites and any other country satellites
and is able to provide in doing so high
speed Internet to places that otherwise couldn't have
it and where that's going to be. And it's just insane. All
pro life champion things. It's
literally a virtue signal to drive a Tesla and you
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know, be snooty and you know, say I care about the
environment, you don't. So the dopest license plate actually the
other day, or not the other day, it was months ago, but I always remember
this girl was driving a Tesla and the license plate said
E Gas. E
www Gas. But yeah, but then
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you know, he buys Twitter out the,
you know, via the Twitter files and did, did
so through reputable journalists which nobody could shit on their
credentials. He outed things like
how the FBI was meddling and
asking and trying and successfully in some cases doing
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so to censor certain stories like the
Hunt Hunter Biden laptop story around the time during, you know,
Trump and Biden's election and how they had a direct
portal into Twitter itself. The government
did. And that led to the domino effect of, you know,
Mark Zuckerberg on Rogan actually saying
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how yeah, you know, yeah, there is a, there is or was
a protocol in place with the government, you know, reaching out and
flagging certain things and letting us know things that could be dangerous, things
that weren't. But then when they look behind that, it's,
you know, to their benefit, to a specific party's benefit, usually the
left and like that. And anyway, I digress. Once Elon did
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that, you know, now he's a piece of. And the
left doesn't like him anymore. So you throw the baby out with the bathwater, you
forget everything else. And because he highlighted something
that we shouldn't want as a people, you know, something similar
to WikiLeaks with Julian Assange
and how he uncovered all the negative shit that we didn't know about with the
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Bush and Cheney's and things going on in Iraq, Afghanistan
and then Edward Snowden under Obama through the
Guardian and Glenn Greenwald and highlighting the surveillance of
that the government was doing on its own citizens and denying
it until Edward Snowden blew it up. Those are
positive things that those folks did. Elon did a similar thing
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just at this side. It was against the. The left,
essentially. We shouldn't want that shadowy type of shit to go
on within our government, regardless of the side that
it's on. It sucks that it was on the left, you know, being someone from
the left, but it is what it is. We shouldn't want that. Keep the same
energy, stop throwing the baby out with the bathwater. And
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honestly, you shouldn't want to win that way. I don't want to win
that way. Democrats should not want to win that way. If you have to coerce
and essentially cheat and fuck Bernie out of being the
Democratic nominee in favor of the more
establishment candidate at the time, which was Hillary, which seemed more convenient
if you have to swap out Biden for Kamala
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without giving the chance for a true primary, because in your
estimation, you might wind up with a candidate that's less favorable to the
powers that be within your party. If you have to leverage your own versions of,
you know, disingenuine and misinformation under the guise
of, but we are truly the good guys, and that's why we're doing it. That's
why we're being underhanded, then truthfully. You don't deserve to win. You're just as bad
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as the other side. I do not want to win that way. Democrats
shouldn't want to win that way. If I have to cheat to win, I rather
not win. Go back to the drawing board,
recalibrate and do things correctly, do things the right way, the
way it should be done, and make it so that you
deserve to win. And then it's also a
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bad chess move also, because then Elon is someone
hugely influential in his own right. Then he says, all right, fuck you guys, then
I'm gonna support the other guy. It's no bueno.
Now, a couple things that worry me about Trump
is that if we have more of what we had the first time around,
we're gonna go back to divisiveness and bullshit.
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And again, his
destabilizing approach to
things. The I don't want to play anymore, so I'm going to take my ball
and go home unless you play how I want you to play type of approach.
His lack of diplomacy in that way, or at least, you know,
that's how it seems. And perception is fucking reality.
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But I think that is a very dangerous thing. His short
term thinking, his transactional nature,
his narcissistic tendencies. Sam Harris
highlights this how, because he's so transactional,
it's kind of like he'll default to, you know, what's in it for me
in scenarios when negotiating with these foreign powers,
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like, he wouldn't put it past him to make a deal that benefits him
above the American people. That type of shit worries me. And
like I was saying, the short term gains. So
thinking along the lines of, again, to look good, to
feed his own narcissism, if you will. Not
thinking long term as you should as the leader of a country. You
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know, you have this leadership role for four years,
but you should be thinking about the next 100 years
and playing into that longer goal. I feel like with him, it's more
like, nah, I'm just gonna, you know, drill right here, get some
oil to make everything cheaper for now. And if there's none
left after I'm gone, then whatever, you guys figure that out. You know what I
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mean? I feel like it's that type of mentality
when it comes to him, and hopefully I'm wrong, but I think that's
a negative. I think that worries me. And you see folks on the right
gaslighting with all the so blowy
racist shit that he says, and when he fucks around
about, you know, being a dictator for a day and maybe I won't
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leave. And the folks already gaslight and
say, you know, don't listen to what he says. You know, he speaks in hyperbole,
you know, listen to what's in his heart and what he actually does. I think
that's, that's bullshit. That's, that's
gaslighting akin to how the left
gaslights or was gaslighting about Joe
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Biden. And, you know, when we see him, you know, mumbling and
fumbling and falling and cognitively
in decline and them saying, oh, no, but behind, you know, don't, don't
worry about that. How he looks at Pollock, because behind closed doors, he's sharp as
attack. It's like, all right, you both gaslighting. You're both full of
shit and bullshitting on both sides, like, cut the shit.
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And so the health of the economy worries me under Trump, ironically,
because a lot of folks champion him. As you know, the economy was good on
him, but the debt of the country is out of
control and exacerbated under Trump. And what's going up even
before COVID because a lot of it has to do with COVID obviously, and
stimulus checks. But then that.
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I personally blame Trump in a way
because that. For the pandemic, I'm saying
because the NIH was doing gain of function
research in the Wuhan lab in China, where the virus
came from. I think that's without a doubt clear.
However, they were doing that shit under Obama,
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and Obama cut the funding for it. It was on
some. You what? Are you guys fucking crazy? You're like making super viruses
here. No, we're not paying for that anymore. You're not doing that anymore.
And then Trump comes into office and he says, I want to
undo everything Obama did, because fuck him, I'm the new president. And starts
funding them again. And then fast forward a year
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or a few months, whatever it was, a fucking super virus comes out of that
lab. So in that way, it is his fault, which
again, ties to the whole. When your back's against the wall,
when you're not sure what decision to make, or when you make hasty decisions, stuff
like that, you fall back on your character. And if your character is rooted in
narcissism and fuck the other guy, I'm the one that wants to look good. We
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get this short term gains so people could feel good in the
moment. That backfires long term. So that stuff worries
me. And the other big worry of mine under.
Under Trump is that I personally think would be
negative. But again, this is more of a values thing,
is the Supreme Court and the potential for another one,
(35:37):
maybe two appointments for Trump, which
is unheard of. It was unheard of that he had so many last time. And
he flipped the Supreme Court, conservative
leaning, I think it's five to four,
but that's how we lost Roe v. Wade, the abortion
protection rights. But under him, he'll have
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possibly two other Justices retiring
or God forbid, dying under his watch. And then he'll have to reappoint. He'll
stack that conservativeness even more. And that's where the long
term, you know, course of the country shift
happens most, I feel. But I want to end on a positive note.
So a few positives that I feel can come from
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a Trump presidency circling back to
some of the folks that he has around him, which are and
were actually lifelong Democrats
like in Elon Musk, his innovation, his mind,
his efficiency ness. Is that
a word, efficiency ness or his efficiency. It's
(36:46):
good to have that on Team America. I believe so.
Definitely would be interesting to see what comes out of that.
Although I am an Elon fan, even though I don't
completely agree with him politically as of late, even though I am
a fan, I, it does make me weary
that his and I think this might be part of
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his, part of the math in his brain when it comes to, you know,
backing, backing Trump and, and so forth.
You know, it's not just because the left shat on him and demonize
them, but it's in his two main
companies interest to be on the winning team, to
be, you know, within the orbit of Trump. SpaceX
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gets funding and has contracts with NASA, with
the Environmental Protection Agency, with the Department
of Defense, with the Department of Transportation,
with the Department of Homeland Security,
Department of Commerce, the Department of State. Tesla
also has contracts with the Department of State, the Department of
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Energy. Like he's very intertwined with
the federal government and funding as is.
So I'm a little weary there. I think it's a, oh, it's a net
positive, but I'm a little, little weary. Then another
positive that I feel could be and it's more related to again
another lifelong Democrat that
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is now within Trump's orbit is RFK
Jr initially when he was actually running as an
independent, he was like my placeholder. Okay, I'm probably going to
vote for RFK Jr just based on again tons of podcasts
that he was on and hearing him articulate his
ideas and policies and platform and
(38:37):
just view on the world and things. Up until
his hawkish approach to the Middle East
I was with him and then he wound up dropping out and backing
Trump. So obviously didn't get my vote anyway. But I
don't agree with him on everything obviously. But I do
like his, his Make America
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Healthy Again, his MAHA campaign,
specifically when it comes to the fda. And we're going to read you
guys a tweet of his from
recently, from a couple weeks ago, which think
highlight where he's coming from. And he says,
quote, FDA's war on public health is about to
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end. This includes its aggressive suppression of
psychedelics, peptides, stem cells, raw milk,
hyperbaric therapies, chelating compounds,
iberin, hydrochloroquine, vitamins, clean food,
sunshine, exercise, nutraceuticals, and anything
else that advances human health and can't
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be patented by pharma. If you work
for the FDA and are part of this corrupt system, I
have two messages for you. One, preserve your
records, and two, pack your bags. Kind of like that
energy. I can't front. I like that energy
specifically, again, when it comes to the fda, because although you
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obviously need a Food and Drug Administration and
fda, I don't like the fact that if you look at the board
of the fda, you'll see executives from Coca
Cola and other food and beverage
companies and pharmaceutical companies, and vice
versa. Folks that used to work at the fda, it's like a revolving door. Get
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a nice cushy deal, a nice position. Over at
Pfizer, for example, surprisingly, after,
you know, helping get some approvals through the FDA
system. And if the FDA was like, infallible,
I never did anything wrong, that would be great. But the fda,
I think it's a year or every five years or something like that, a third,
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one third. So out of 100 drugs that
they approve and put out, they have to recall
33 every year or every five years, whatever the status.
But it's like they're wrong like a third of the time, essentially,
is what that breaks down to, to me. So it's not to demonize and say
that, that, you know, they have to be abolished or some shit like that. But
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clearly it could use some cleaning up. And also I recently found out
that, for example, the
FDA, this country, allows
or has something like 100 or
1800 chemicals in our foods. You know, the.
If you look at the ingredients list behind like a cereal box and
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has yellow 5 and red 4 and stuff like that.
A bunch of chemicals that are within our foods,
the vast majority of which are not allowed, they're illegal
for those same companies to include
in their products. Overseas in other countries,
other developed countries, in England, for example, or in Canada, for example,
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a box of Froot Loops here in the US versus a box of
Fruit Loops in Canada. Two completely different
compounds and components. Other countries like Canada, for example,
they have like 300 chemicals or 400 chemicals that
are allowed in their food system.
We have over a thousand. And we're a very
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unhealthy people. You know, we're very Americans are,
we're overweight, diabetes,
hypertension, which I
myself have cancer. All this at
higher rates in other countries. This could have something to do with it. So I
think some positive can come out of that relationship. And also
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Tulsi Gabbard, which I like, which got
my vote in the Democratic primary when she was running for
president. And her, you know, personal
experience as a Democratic congresswoman for eight
years, serving overseas in Iraq
in the medical unit. But she has a very, you know, anti
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forever war, military industrial complex,
you know, firsthand experience view, but very
anti war and overthrowing regimes,
overthrowing governments and putting in your own puppet government. She's against
all that, which I'm for. No idea what role she will
ultimately play, but she is within that
(43:24):
orbit now. She did endorse Trump in again, another
scenario of a popular Democrat went
against the quote, unquote, Democratic machine, spoke up against
Hillary Clinton, and then Hillary winds up calling
her, you know, a puppet for, for Putin or
something like that. And then all thems turned their back on her
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and it was another, you know, all right, you, I'm gonna
support the other guy then it's just like high school, I swear to
God. But yeah, hopefully Trump this time focuses
on legacy. You know, he's not gonna get another term after this.
When he has this four years, hopefully it'll be less
contentious, more shit gets done. Maybe he'll focus on
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infrastructure and building. You know, he's a by trade, you know, a
real estate guy. Implement that into building up home
that people see that affects a quality of life, everyday life,
gets the right people in his cabinet or better people than last
time and fucking hope for the best. That's my hope for him
and his administration and my hope for
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Democrats. Again, just to underscore
before I sign off, don't continue Whatever fucking strategy you
are doing. Had it right on a lot of things for a long
time. Go back to that.
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I love you, Aiden. I love you, Daddy.
I love you, Grayson. I love you, Daddy.
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