#274 – Psychological Thrills, Financial Drama & Stand-Up Comedy - Spun Today with Tony Ortiz

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But yeah, I just hate seeing that type of thing. It's kind of like the
whole what I've been seeing lately with the whole some of the folks
within the Rogan sphere, if you will, or within his
orbit that are feuding or beefing or like don't like each other and stuff like
that ain't even separated themselves from Rogan himself. Like you have the
Sam Harris obviously and Kyle Kalinske's

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crystal ball a bit, which kind of makes sense, you know, being
with Kyle, you know, Kyle's wife. But these were all folk
folks that blew up because of Rogan and now are
taking shots and mainly because they
they're not down with some of his more right leaning
views and he's not ads left as he was

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before. And I still like those folks and their podcasts and their
shows. So yeah, just kind of hate that like the beefing
between folks that I like. But anyway, I digress.

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What's up folks? What's going on? Welcome to the Spun Today Podcast, the
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This is episode 274 of the Spun
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Joker Folie Adieu. Here is the official
synopsis. Struggling with his dual identity, failed
comedian Arthur Fleck meets the love of his life, Harley

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Quinn, while incarcerated at Arkham State Hospital.
This is the sequel to Todd Phillips original mega
hit titled Joker which was meant to be a
one and done type of film and
it was so popular that after I guess enough arm twisting
by the studio he gave in to doing

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second movie. The first one was dark and gritty
and really engaging and had heart and a
ton of emotion. It's a really dope movie. I definitely
broke it down in a prior episode probably a year or two
ago. Sorry I don't remember the episode
offhand, but you could check out my playlist on

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YouTube the Movies Playlist. You'll definitely
find the the chunk of the episode where I
discussed the first movie on there. And as we like to do here on
the Sponsor Day podcast, I want to shout out the writers, the
foundation. In my opinion, the movie was written and directed
by Todd Phillips along and also

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credited writers were Scott Silver
and Bob Kane. Scott Silver, by the way, who
also wrote on the first Joker movie and one of my other favorite
movies, 8 Mile shout out to each and every one
of the writers that put this film together.
The movie also stars Joaquin Phoenix who reprises

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his role as Joker. Lady Gaga who plays
Harley Quinn who also killed it. But just like the
first movie I think Joaquin Phoenix is
he's definitely one of the goat actors. He's one of those actors
that is so drowned in the
essence of whatever it is that he's trying to portray.

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That you don't see the acting. And through that character, you
get drawn into this world and immersed in it. So the first thing
that stood out to me in this movie is the
subtitle Folie Adieu. It's French for what the hell
does that mean? So I look it up and it stands
for the presence of the same or similar

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delusional ideas in two persons closely
associated with one another. And we see that theme play
out throughout the movie with Arthur Fleck
slash, Joker's character played by Joaquin Phoenix, and
Harley Quinn's character played by Lady Gaga. And the movie
starts out with this slapsticky Bugs Bunny style

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cartoon, which to me was foreshadowing
that his shadow or alter
ego or whatever it is that's responsible for all the bad
shit that he does is not him. And it's something that he's wrestling
with the cartoon that he's watching while
again, locked up in Arkham, they're all watching this cartoon. The

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cartoon character is going about his business, about to be
on stage or it's backstage or something along those lines. And
the shadow of the cartoon is taking its place and making
it do bad, negative things. And then when hits the fan,
the shadow disappears. Something else I noticed early on
in the movie, which I'm not sure if it was intentional. I

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haven't heard or read that anything on
this specifically, but I felt
like the light symbolized when
he's Joker. And the gloomy dark scenes
are when he himself feels like Arthur Fleck when
he's in his reality, in his sadness, in his

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depression. But every time he was light and jovial and
risky and ballsy, there was extra light in the room
or on him or like the moonlight shining in
through the cell window, like some sort of
light was present. And I kind of sort of noticed that early on and I
was, you know, that I kept that in the back of my mind as I

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was watching it. And it felt like that throughout the rest of
the film. Again, not sure if that was an intentional thing or not, but just
something I picked up on. And his laugh, yo, his iconic
creepy ass laugh is so good.
Definitely get a lot of that. You had a couple actors from
industry, which is the show that I'm gonna break down next, season three of the

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show that we're gonna break down next. And I've. I've broken down seasons one and
two in prior episodes, but yeah, you. It was cool to see a couple actors
from there that were in this. Robert Spearing's character from
Industry, Harry Lottie. He plays Harvey Dent
and he's a young prosecutor making his bones.
I think he's like the assistant DA And Eric Tao from

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Industry, played by Ken Leung,
he was Dr. Victor Liu, my guy. Tim
Dillon is in this. He plays one of the guards at
Arkham. Shout out to Tim Dillon, who's a stand up
comedian and amazing podcaster. Now Harley
Quinn again played by Lady Gaga. She was a

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different kind of crazy. She meets
Joker when they pass by each other
at Arkham. She's in this glee club singing thing
program and she's an inmate at Arkham. And he's going
from wherever he's housed to go meet his attorney or something
like that. And he passes by this room that she's in, they lock eyes and

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they wind up striking up a romance from there. But she essentially tells him
that the reason why she's locked up is because
she burned down her parents place with them in it. And
she tells him that she's from the same neighborhood that he's from
because he by this point, by the way, because of everything that happened in the
first movie with him killing Robert De

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Niro's character on live television and the riots that
ensued and. And just like the lore that he had and the
followers, they even made this made for TV movie about
him. He was kind of like a D list celebrity, kind of. But
she tells him all this and it winds up turns out that
apparently it was all she was. Just

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like she self committed herself because she wanted to get close to
him and get to know him and stuff. It's kind of stalkerish if you ask
me. And she still lived at home with her parents in the Upper west side.
She was a little rich girl who went to grad school
for psychology. So yeah, different kind of crazy. It
was interesting to me to see Arthur's

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character in, how even in all his
craziness, his dual personality, his
delusional state of mind, he was also
a narcissistic, insecure kind of guy. He
constantly wanted the validation that
he never got while, you know, being on stage and attempting

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to do comedy. Or from his love
interests that he made up in his mind, like to his
neighbor from, from the first movie. And he's constantly worried about
how he's being seen, how he's being perceived. Like he really wanted to
know if someone saw the TV movie that they made about him and
if it was good or not. And he had this inkling to be famous

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or love and adored which all stems, in my opinion, from
the character's insecurities. And speaking of his neighbor
Sophie Dumand, played by Zazi Beats,
there's a scene when they're in court and she's on the
stand because they're essentially trying
to plead insanity and that it was his other personality that did

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the violence things and it wasn't really Arthur Fleck and he shouldn't be in
there, you know, to try to get him out on the
technicality. But she says something that just cuts
through and pierces his soul, which is that his
mother confided in her once upon a
time and told him, told her

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that she couldn't believe that he based his whole
life on a story that she told him once about his purpose
in life, which was to make people laugh, which is why she used to
call him Smiley, I think, and that that's why
he went so hard at trying to be a stand up comedian. And
she was saying in this, like, you know, it's pathetic of him making a

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tone that you could just see broke his heart as he heard it
and it made him flip out in court. Now, what the movie was criticized
for most was the fact that it was essentially a
musical, which I myself don't, don't
prefer when it comes to movies. Actual Broadway musicals I
actually do like, but in my head they're compartmentalized into different

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things. So any movies, like La La Land,
I think was a musical, which I never saw, by the way.
I won the Oscar that year, but things like that always
turned me off. This was part musical and I
did hear that, but just because I love the first one so much, I
had to watch this. And although I could definitely have done without

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it, I did get it. I did get what.
At least I think I did. I feel like I got what Todd
Phillips and Scott Silver were going for.
Just to slightly correct my writing credits, I just realized that Bob Kane
is one of the character creators, not one of the writers of the
script of the film. So that's just Todd Phillips and Scott

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Silver. But to me, it was a way of showing how
he felt inside, how he felt
awake, alive, and shit was sweet.
Even though what we as the audience would see around him
was chaos. It was kind of showing how
in his own weird, delusional way, he was in

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control of the moments that he was in, the
situations that he was in, rather. And he was the smartest guy in the room,
even if in reality that clearly wasn't the
case. But again, I felt like all those breakouts Song and dance
scenes were just heightening that, that
idea. And they were done well, tastefully

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artsy. So, you know, if that's your lane, which
again, for me it's only really something that I appreciate on
theater stages and don't really look to movies for that. So it kind of
sort of feels like out of place for me. But if you're into that sort
of thing, I'm sure you could get appreciation from it because it was clearly
well done. But I felt like if you stripped all of that away from the

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movie, you would have wound up with a film that lived up
to the hype and anticipation. And again, that's coming from someone
who enjoyed the film. I still liked it despite that. I just
think it would have been way better without it. But soundtrack
wise, the score of all the oldies that that were
played throughout I thought was pretty cool. And I call them oldies from my perspective.

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But the setting of the, of the film is like in what,
the 70s, late 70s, early 80s, around there. So probably
pretty contemporary for when the film takes place. I like the
scene, spoiler alert, where in the
courtroom and the verdict is being, being read and he's being found
guilty for everything. And the side of the court blows

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up. Someone set off a car bomb right
next to the courtroom. Literally rips the wall out of the courtroom. And then it
shows Harvey Dent disoriented
and sitting down with half his face blown off,
you know, setting it up for the two face character. But who knows?
Because Todd Phillips famously didn't want to make this movie, let alone

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like a two face spin off or something like that. But it was more, it
was kind of more so like a reminder of the world that you're in, right?
You're in that D.C. comic, Batman world. And I
like something that I heard on screen Crush, where they said that
people that get upset about this Joker movie because it's
not true to the origins of any of the origin

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stories of the Joker from the comic books, is essentially that those
critiques are unfounded because what this movie is doing is just taking elements
of the comic and
remixing the characters, just doing a
remix in film form. So it's not meant to
be that and the movie essentially towards the end,

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towards the very end, we see Joaquin characters,
Joaquin Phoenix's character Joker getting
shanked in Arkham, seemingly being set up
by the guard to get shanked in a hallway where
he was left by himself by someone that another inmate that you see
throughout the film. It's kind of creepy and in the background

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and he stabs and kills Joaquin Phoenix.
And as the camera pans out, you see that
character cutting his own face, a smile into his own face,
akin to the Heath Ledger
Joker character, which rubbed some people the wrong way.
They were like, how can you, you know, even touch such an iconic character

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or allude to it that that's the real Joker, which is kind
of like what the first movie set up, right? The Joaquin
Phoenix was not necessarily the Joker that. Or not
necessarily, he was not the Joker that fights Batman. Because we see Bruce Wayne
as a little baby or a young kid in the first Joker
movie. But this Joker

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spawns all these fall followers and
uprisings and inspires who
will become the Joker that winds up being, you know, Batman's
arch nemesis. And then with taking this character that shanks this
one and then, you know, cuts his face, you kind of
playing with that idea that this is that Heath Ledger

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Joker character. I personally thought it was a cool nod
to. To that iconic character. I don't think it's
blasphemous or anything like that, but to each their own.
And the movie again starts with that whole Looney
Tunes sketch style sketch in
the beginning of it. And it ends with him watching Looney Tunes. So part of

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me felt like similar to the first movie. Did
he just imagine this whole. Is he just
that and crazy in the brain that he. Everything that we saw in the film
again was like all in his head. Was it? Not just
the musical scenes that were in his head, but
in fact, everything. Two other items I'd like to touch on related to the

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film is the whole conspiracy
of again, speaking to Todd Phillips and him, you know, be
vocal about just making the first Joker and that's it. He never intended to do
a second movie, but then clearly, obviously he did. He wound up doing it.
There's a quote in the film where he
says, I have a sneaking suspicion that

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we're not giving the fans what they want. Which seemed like
meta commentary about the fact that Todd Phillips
wasn't giving the fans what they wanted and wound up doing this musical thing just
to piss everybody the off. Which I honestly, after
seeing a couple interviews with him, I don't think that was it. I think
he was just trying to do, you know, like this artsy thing and

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marrying the two styles or genres of
storytelling, if you will. But I thought that was an interesting take.
And something else that I thought that was really cool was that
iconic scene in this movie, which was used
throughout the trailers and stuff like that. So I was familiar with it even before
watching the film, but where he's locked up and behind

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the glass and Lady Gaga's character Harley
Quinn goes to visit him and she puts lipstick
on the glass and then he smiles
into it and it looks like it's the Joker
makeup lipstick on him. And Todd Phillips said that
they, they took like an hour to get that shot right. And the way

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they did it was they put a light
smudge on the mirror on the
glass where, you know, to indicate to her the perfect
spot for her to draw the lipstick smile.
And then Joaquin essentially had to hit that
mark and smile just right and just enough

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to fill in that lipstick smile, which I thought was pretty,
pretty cool and creative and just interesting. You know, that's a little of the behind
the scenes, if you will type of that I like. But yeah,
I thought it was a good movie. It was worth a watch. Again,
could I have done without the musical numbers and stuff like that? Yes,
because it's not my thing. But that

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aside, I still thought it was a. A worthwhile watch, especially if
you're a fan of the first one. If you're a fan and as invested as
I was in that first film, how could you not want to see how the
story plays out? You know, it's almost. It's a must.
But yeah, that's my little recap and review of Joker Folia
Do Industry

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Season 3 here's the official synopsis. This is
a British American television drama series, financial
drama that premiered in 2020. It
follows a group of young graduates competing for permanent
positions at a prestigious investment bank in London known as
Peer Point. And these young bankers and traders make

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their way in the financial world in the aftermath of the
2008 collapse. And as we like to do here on the Spun Today
podcast, let's shout out the writers. The show was
largely written and created by Mickey down
and Conrad K. Additional writers for a handful of
episodes were Joseph Charlton, Sam H.

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Freeman, Kate Verges, Matthew
Barry and Zara Mirza.
Shout out to each and every one of the writers that put
this great series together.
Season three is the last and final series, the series
finale, and I've broken down both seasons one

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and season two, which if you haven't listened to those, feel free
to go back and listen to them. It was with the last handful of episodes
that I've put out where I think I got a bit more foundational with the
characters in terms of information that I shared. But
here for season three, I'm gonna just do kind of a data dump of
some of my favorite parts and scenes and things that happened as I

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normally do, starting with Randolph and Mortimer
Peoint, which were the founders of the Peoint
Bank. I thought that was a cool nod to the
80s film Trading Places. And the season starts out kind of
upside down, backwards again, you're not. We as the viewer
don't know how much time has lapsed. What's going on

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exactly. Eric, his character Eric
Tao, played by Ken Leung, is getting a standing ovation from the
C Suite execs. Harper Stern's character, played
by Maihala is completely
mia. Yasmin Karahanani,
played by Marissa Abella. She's getting dragged throughout through

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the media. Kenny Kilbane's character, played by Connor
McNeil is being a dick again
and not with shell of himself as he was being in
in the prior season after he got sober.
And it was, it didn't seem like he was back on the sauce or
anything. It was just he was getting some of his edge back, if you

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will. And there's a couple new characters, one of which was
Sweet Pea Go Lightly played by Miriam
Pechy. She was this smart financial
girl that was also a tick tock star. Nicole Craig's
character, played by Sarah Parrish, makes this poignant point
with Robert, which are still sleeping together. But

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she winds up telling him that we're all just chimps in a hierarchy.
And then they're laying out by the pool, they're just
drizzling. They wind up falling asleep. And then it starts drizzling or
raining. And Robert wakes up, she's not really moving.
He lifts her off him, she's half on him and
she's dead. Which was a 16.

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Crazy, unexpected. Eric winds up
firing Kenny instead of Yaz because Bill Adler,
his boss, wants him to get rid of somebody to make another cut.
And I thought a funny scene. Well, not a funny scene, but an interesting
way that Eric's character framed a climate conference that they
were going to was that it's just ESG enough

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to appease the Democrats and also anti
woke enough to not trigger the Republicans, which I thought was just like
an interesting tightrope that
banks and industries in general are constantly walking,
right? You're playing both sides of the fence. You see Democrats
and Republicans, liberals and conservatives and ESG

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for the uninitiated within the finance world stands for
in environmental, social and governance. And it's
essentially, think of it like you have rating
agencies, right, like Moody's and S P and Fitch
that rate different businesses, different companies, like
triple A rated, A rated B rated, triple B rated. That's where the

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term like junk stocks comes from, which essentially are
anything rated below A, B, I believe, or B and
below or triple C and below
or junk bonds. But think of it in those
terms of a rating agency. But ESG are.
There are companies that essentially assign

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scores, ESG scores and
ratings to companies not based
on their profit and loss and balance sheet
investments and revenues. You know the financial stuff.
But on those three pillars, those three
buckets, esg, environmental, social and governance.

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In the environmental bucket would be things. Does this company have
a target goal to be carbon
neutral by you know, 2045 or 2050 or wherever the
goalpost happens to be right now in their supply chain doing. Do they
knowing, knowingly have humane practices when it comes to
mining cobalt and you know, like conflict minerals?

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That's the kind of stuff in the E bucket, the environmental bucket. Then you
have the social bucket, which I can't think of any examples right now,
blanking on it. And then you have the governance
bucket which is you have a balance
of male and females on the sweet
seat on the board of directors. For example. Are you equal

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opportunity employers? Do are you have the sensitivity
trainings and diversity trainings,
you know, kind of office culture type of things. What is the
payout the severance packages look for, let's say a CEO,
just things up badly. Are they able to cash out their
shares and get paid a ton of money anyway. But anyway that's what

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ESG stands for essentially. And I just
liked Eric's framing there, which was that this, this particular ESG
conference or climate conference rather was just
ESG enough to appease Democrats, which are more for
this, these types of things and
anti woke enough not to trigger

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Republicans. So still meant to
be financially sound, you know, practical
investments and companies and stuff like that that would be involved. We also
find out that Rishi, we find out in season three is
spiraling and has a sick gambling addiction
which isn't covered in the prior seasons, but

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definitely plays into his vibe, the vibe of
his character throughout seasons one and two. It was very
reminiscent of Adam Sandler's movie Uncut Gems.
That was like the type of shit Rishi has been on. And
it spills over into work where he, he has
this huge negative position that is pretty much going to

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erase all the gains that the entire desk has made that that
year. And he makes this crazy bet
that winds up paying off like on some
Hail Mary last minute type shit where
sterling silver has some
once in 27 year

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rate hike and that offsets the
that that's in his favor, essentially. So for his
huge negative position to actually make sense and pay out,
this once in a 27 year occurrence had to happen.
And we also find out that Diana,
Rishi's wife, played by Emily Barber,

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has a podcast that actually makes money. And she winds up
bailing him out of a big hole that he's in with his bookie.
And they kind of have this heart to heart, you know, just like cards out
on the table moment between the two. And she winds
up telling him she was like, do you know? Do you even know what a
man is? And she's like, a man is how you treat

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people who expect your love. Which I thought was
a dope line. And I'll put a pin in that and circle back to
those two in a bit. But then, moving on in the season, the
Lumi IPO winds up failing, crashing
afterwards, the CEO cashes out before it does.
And he comes from legacy wealth in London. Some

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backdoor deals were made with the politicians and
regulators, etc, etc. Robert,
his character is essentially put out there by Purepoint to take the
fall. He and the Lumi CEO wind up going on an Ayahuasca
retreat, which I thought was funny. We find out through flashback
scenes because this season has a lot of flashbacks just to tie

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out loose ends and fill in some blanks that we, we as viewers have.
And we find out that Yasmin lets her pops
drown on some Phil Collins in the Air
Tonight type shit. Harper, we finally find out is working for
this boutique fund and then
winds up leaving that fund with one of the

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partners of it and starting their own fund. And
they together angle a deal that would short the fuck
out of Pierpoint and really screw the bank over. And it
winds up leading to this great dialogue confrontation between Harper and
Yaz, who throughout the series have this love hate relationship for each
other filled with adoration and

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respect, facts and
belittling at the same time. And true moments
of friendship and being there for each other, sprinkled with moments of
I wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire. A
very contentious relationship. Oh, this was a dope line. The interim
CEO of peerpoint tells the head of

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Barclays, because they come down pretty much to the wire where the bank is going
to implode, essentially it's gonna
collapse. It's gonna be like the, like Lehman Brothers.
And the interim CEO tells Barclays who's like, at the table
with them, willing to buy them for pennies on the dollar. Buy out the bank.
He tells them, he tells him. So we're just at the mercy

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of someone else's ambition and debarklays CEO replies to
him. Aren't we always. I thought that was a pretty
dope back and forth there. Eric Tao
angles with one of the execs who was spearheading the whole
ESG push within the bank which was a
colossal failure for them as it has been for some

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banks and entities and real life in the
financial system. But he angles with her
to Bill Adler and pin things on him and position
it as it being due to his brain tumor and that
he pretty much positions himself as
being the next CFO for whatever the remnants of Pure Point

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winds up being and pivots the idea from letting
Barclays buy them for pennies on the dollar to
having investors from the Middle east just invest
in Pure Point as is. You know something that I noticed about Robert's
character, he always had this douchey walk and
mannerism to him that I thought was, you know, just the character

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that Harry Lottie was playing. But
I think that that's just Harry's way of being. No, no
disrespect to Harry, but when I saw him in in Joker
2 playing the Harvey Dent character there, he had
those very same similar mannerisms about him and like the same
walk. So I don't think that was a character

(33:30):
specific to Robert Spearing. Then we see Yaz's character
has this opportunity to have all her troubles go away
in terms of how she's being portrayed in the in the press and
legal legal troubles with her family's estate and
her dad being MIA and then found out to be
have been dead and drowned and she could have had

(33:53):
everything go away and you know, be be in
wealth which she was always accustomed to
to being given how she grew up by getting with the
Lumi guy. That's what the grandfather of the Lumi guy,
which again comes from this legacy wealthy family. But
then she chose to go with Robert to be with Robert

(34:15):
who they were. Oh they always had this flirty
kind of they're going to wind up together type of
relationship. They would wind up together at the end and they do
finally sleep together. And it seems they're
going to be like, you know, right off into the sunset, live happily
ever after and carve out a nice existence and life for themselves.

(34:38):
And then you fast forward to the end of that same day and
Henry, which is the gloomy guy, he announces
that they're engaged after they them two discussed, you
know, just being practical about things and about going on
their lives because her that family had the power to
just clear her name and from the papers and tabloids and they owned all the

(35:00):
photos that were being used to trash her. And then what's in
it for Henry is that she would help, you know, whitewash Henry's corporate
failure somehow and Rob just gets fucked in the
end. And there was a scene that was shot
pretty interestingly that pretty cool that I liked, which
was when the engagement was announced. They were at

(35:22):
this very long fancy dinner. By long I mean very
long table seemed like royalty style
dinner. There's a shot of them
exchanging looks, Rob and Yaz.
And it's like everybody else melts away. And the look from
her is essentially saying I'm sorry. And the look from him is essentially

(35:44):
saying that I understand. And then he winds up
driving away at the end and there's a moment where he kind of like sparks
and smiles and in that moment found solace
in knowing that he was the one that she truly loved.
Like he took her for her word that they actually said I love you and
stuff like that when they slept together, while at the same time knowing

(36:05):
that for practical reasons he wouldn't wind up with her. Jesse Bloom, we find
out, goes to prison for tax evasion. Bill Adler winds up
dying the cancer tumor. Eric gets fired
in the end and is given a $20 million
severance, aka a golden parachute. Like what I was
mentioning earlier, like the G in esg,

(36:28):
Harper makes a decision to leave the
fund that she started with Petra
and making a deal with one of
those legacy wealth guys, which is Henry's
father, great not father, great uncle or friend of
the family or something like that, who initially backed her and

(36:50):
Petra's fund, but he was more of a shady type character.
And Harper said that she would run
her own short only fund from New York and that she
was ready to go home. Then you fast forward some time and Yaz winds
up calling Harper to congratulate her on
being on Forbes 30 under 30 and to invite her to

(37:12):
her wedding. And then we see the invitation list and we see that the
Obamas are on there. That's how fancy
this family is. We also find out that
Rishi, circling back to him and his wife
Rishi is in the hole now to his bookie,
£600,000. And the bookie winds up paying

(37:33):
him a visit and shooting his wife in the
head and then leaves him there. Just freaked the
fuck out. So we kind of see how that's gonna end. Yaz
finally confronts the fact that her dad molested her, which they kind of
tease throughout the the series, but never
fully show or confirm

(37:56):
until the moment where she's told that by someone
that, you know, if he, that they're sorry for what he did to
her or if he ever did that to her and she breaks down crying. And
this moment of like clarity and realization and then
soon after denial. But it definitely explains a lot of
how promiscuous her character was and how contentious the relationship was

(38:19):
between her and her dad. And there's also we get a nice
amend between Harper and Eric between their
characters. Harper called Eric, which was the
central mentor mentee relationship throughout the series.
And they kind of made amends. And those two, they were kindred spirits in a
way. They were very, very similar people,

(38:40):
sociopathic, very able, very focused, very
smart. And they played off of each other very well. And
then the series essentially ends with Rob finally coming into
his own as a salesman and seemingly locking in
a deal for the VC funding for this
was either like a Silicon Valley startup or this, this

(39:03):
medical startup that was going to make him the CFO of the
company if he was able to lock, lock in, lock down some
VC funding. But yeah, Industry is a dope series.
I definitely recommend it. It's a fairly quick watch being that it's only
three seasons and that is the full series,
but definitely worth a watch. I really enjoyed it. I'm sure

(39:26):
you find folks will too. And that is my little recap and review
of Industry Season 3. Check it out. Now streaming
on HBO Max
Hasan Minhaj is off with his head.
His latest comedy special streaming now on Netflix. Hasan
Minhaj is a dope stand up comedian. I've seen all his comedy

(39:49):
specials, really enjoy them. He kind of popularized,
in my opinion, using slides and pictures
and visual aids throughout his stand up.
Although this one, he didn't have any
of that, which was an interesting shift. He was a
correspondent on the Daily show under Jon Stewart,

(40:10):
had his own show on Netflix as well. And recently
a few months ago, I think I mentioned this on the pod. And I have
broken down his other comedy specials, by the way, in the past if you guys
want to go dig those up. I also have a comedy about stand
up comedy playlist on my YouTube page if you guys are
interested. You could dig it up there probably more easily than going back and listening
to an old full episode of the pod. But I think I mentioned

(40:34):
on the podcast his recent controversy from a few
months back where he was quote unquote caught
telling lies within his stand up comedy, which
was generally taken one of two ways, which was oh, that's. That.
That's kind of dirty to make things up
about because one of the things was that he was

(40:57):
allegedly making things up about real people that didn't
happen. And those people came out like, you know, bits that
he had about his prom date and her parents
being racist and not, you know, him showing up and them not letting him
take her to prom because he was a brown kid, she was a white girl,
and then it turns out that she's married now to an Indian guy and she

(41:19):
came out and said that, you know, none of that ever happened. And then
on the flip side you have him defending that,
yes, that specifically or something similar to that happened.
But also the folks defending the
mindset of a comedian, obviously all stories are embellish and changed and
tweaked for comedic effect, which is what

(41:42):
comics do. And I myself was initially more
on the former side of that argument and now I'm
more on the latter side of that argument. But just this special
coming out in and of itself, you know, folks were anticipating
him, you know, speaking to that and he does with it within the
special. Something that I don't like would

(42:03):
sucked around when that was was going on is that
I hate when folks that I like are like beefing with
each other. Like I know some of the guys on flagrant Akash
specifically went in on Hasan when
that whole controversy came out and were just
highlighting a few other things because they came up and

(42:25):
like in the comedy scene, not completely together, but somewhat together.
But he said some other shady stories about Hasan
kind of jumped on the bandwagon if you will, folks that were attacking him
for shit. And if Drew definitely didn't look good
with on Hasan, but it kind of like reinforced the whole
allegation of him just making shit up. But yeah, I just hate seeing that type

(42:48):
of thing. It's kind of like the whole what I've been seeing lately with the
whole some of the folks within the Rogan sphere, if you
will, or within his orbit that are feuding or beefing or like don't like
each other and stuff like that ain't even separated themselves from Rogan himself.
Like you have the Sam Harris obviously and Kyle
Kalinsky's crystal ball a bit. It kind of

(43:10):
makes sense, you know, being with Kyle, you know, Kyle's
wife. But these were all folks that blew up because of Rogan
and now are taking shots and
mainly because they're not down with some of
his more right leaning views. And he's not
ads left as he was before. And I still like those folks

(43:32):
and their podcasts and their shows. So yeah, just kind of hate that,
like the beefing between folks that I like. But anyway, I digress. So
I anyway, it was anticipated to see how Hasan would,
would address it, that whole controversy. And he essentially addressed it
as he mentioned it a couple times throughout the
special, but he essentially sarcastically just addressed it

(43:55):
as the New Yorker were fact checking his stand
up, which you know, he was saying it like you're fact
checking comedy, like how ridiculous is that?
Which in a, in a vacuum it is. And he was kind of like, oh
no, I got caught, you know, embellishing for dramatic effect. And that
was I think as far as he went. But he did continue taking

(44:17):
shots at the New Yorker and that type of behavior in general throughout.
He also mentioned that our Congress is like Israeli mass
nursing home.gov and that we should treat our politicians the way
we treat our professional athletes. He was like, if
we treated Ruth Bader Ginsburg like Tom Brady,
abortion would still be legal. That was hilarious. Just like

(44:39):
kick her out, forced her to retire one way or the other,
replace it with another left leaning judge and
just completely avoid Trump coming in and
having put in a right leaning one. He had a funny bit where he says
that Hillary wanted to be president so
bad that she was willing to sit in the same

(45:01):
office that and then he left it open after that,
obviously alluding to Clinton getting a BJ
from Monica Lewinsky in the Oval Office.
And he says that Beijistan, as he
calls the brown folks, has four key issues that they give
a about which are essentially give us a green card,

(45:24):
believe in God, lower our taxes and
don't bomb our home country. After that you got our vote. I
like this line that I mentioned that he is from a
generation of men that don't read but listen to
podcasts, shout out to podcast. He mentioned his, his
boy Sanjay sent him Kobe Bryant quotes and

(45:46):
he highlighted that, that famous quote which is hard men make soft
times, Soft times make soft
men. Soft men make hard times. Hard times make
hard men. It's a cycle. Like his boy. His boy Sanjay
is texting him that and quotes Mamba
mentality quotes from Kobe. He just writes about Sanji. You're a

(46:08):
software engineer. When you sending me this? That was
hilarious. He mentioned the Gaza and Israeli
attacks a few times throughout, which I thought was pretty dope to do. He's
a, you know, a mainstream comedian and probably wouldn't be
too in his best interest to do so, especially
if he's on one side more than the Other. But I like how he

(46:31):
highlighted, which again is how I feel how
all issues now are made binary. They're either black and white, who's
right, Gaza or Israel. And it's like the issue really is
that it's insane people versus insufferable
people. He had this bit on racism that was dope where
he, he says that white people have

(46:53):
the classic hits when it comes to racism and they hate on
people that don't look like them. But the rest of us,
we hate people that look just like us. Think like
India, Pakistan, Dominicans and Puerto Ricans
or warring factions within like Middle Eastern countries or
African countries, so on and so forth. This was funny. He was

(47:15):
blm. That movement was just the Black Lives Matter movement
was just them saying, you know, we
just want to be treated
human beings. And then the ALM movement, the All Lives
Matter movement was more like, no. And then
he goes, his pops, you know, coming from like the immigrant mentality, he's

(47:37):
like, it's not about black lives matter and all lives matter. It's
none of those people matter. Tell me what your GPA is and I'll tell you
if you matter. And
the last thing I'll mention about is special is he says that
therapy and like taking therapy needs to be more like a
haircut. You can't tell us about it. We have to

(47:58):
notice the difference in you. It was a dope special by Hasan
Minhaj and I highly recommend it. Hasan Minhaj
is off with his head streaming now on
Netflix. Check it out.
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