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September 12, 2025 68 mins

In this episode Mark interviews Phil Marshall, the author of the recently released science fiction novel Taming the Perilous Skies and the founder of Spoken, a platform that removes numerous audiobook production barriers for indie authors and small publishers.

Prior to the interview, Mark shares comments, a personal update, and a word about this episode's sponsor.

This episode is sponsored by ScribeCount (affiliate link). Spend less time logging in to multiple platforms and crunching numbers, and more time writing and marketing your books thanks to ScribeCount’s handy all-in-one interface.

In the interview, Mark and Phil talk about:

  • Phil's background with Conversa
  • Being trained as a surgeon and then switching to product development and technology
  • The novel (TAMING THE PERILOUS SKIES) that was baking in his head since 2021
  • Distributing 130 copies of his novel to early readers at a recent WorldCon
  • The market info of "Dan Brown meets Andy Weir"
  • How the novel and Spoken itself were both inspired by the same thing
  • An explanation of what Spoken is and how it addresses Phil's desire for multi-cast narration
  • Multi-voice narration being a speciality of Spoken
  • Why Phil is releasing the novel in multi-cast narration via Spoken for free in chapter by chapter installments
  • Spoken having just completed a full year of beta release and is now available as a fully available product
  • A bit of a walk-thru of how Spoken breaks out different character voices in an automated manner
  • How ElevenLabs and Hume are the two partners Spoken uses for their character and narrator voices
  • The costs involved in producing these audio books
  • How there is no cost for listeners who want to check out how things sound on Spoken
  • Phil's message to authors who are nervous/anxious about A.I.
  • And more...

After the interview Mark reflects on a couple of things related to the conversation.

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