Station 4 Negotiation

Station 4 Negotiation

Station 4 Negotiation: where real stories unlock powerful negotiation strategies. Hosted by Gene Killian, a trial lawyer with 40 years of experience, we skip the gimmicks and distill practical lessons from real-world deals. Understand the art of negotiation through stories, not lists of rules. Here, you'll find practical insights that will help you communicate, collaborate, and close deals with confidence... and change the way you approach every conversation. Remember: negotiation is life.

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September 8, 2026 58 mins

Usually, almost nothing about how the other side of a deal actually thinks survives into the record. The Paris Peace Accords are the rare exception. Both governments kept meticulous records of the whole ugly business, a lot of it has since been declassified, and the historian Pierre Asselin — whose book A Bitter Peace is the source for this episode — got into the North Vietnamese archives as well as the American on...

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There's a lot going on in the world right now, so you'd be forgiven for not following the corporate war Paramount is currently fighting. But here's a rule that keeps holding up: when the name Paramount is attached to a deal, there is going to be drama.

This one has more than most. The biggest media transaction of the decade — a film studio, a streamer, a stack of cable channels, and CNN. Netflix on o...

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The most expensive move Elon Musk made buying Twitter wasn't the price. It was three words: "waive due diligence."

This week on S4N, Gene works through the Musk–Twitter saga — which resulted in a multibillion-dollar jury verdict and an SEC settlement — through a negotiation lens and compares it to a similarly catastrophic deal from the 1980s, so that you know what due diligence actua...

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On the evening of June 17th, 2026, between courses of a state dinner at Versailles, President Trump signed a memorandum of understanding meant to end the war with Iran. But shortly after, the shooting started again, leading commentator Mike Baker to aptly dub the document a "Memorandum of Misunderstanding." It's easy to read this situation as a verdict on ...

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A man walks into a company that has already gone bankrupt twice. On paper, it has about six weeks left. The spreadsheet says what every lender wants to hear: liquidate and turn out the lights.

But one man didn't buy it.

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Most of us think leverage is about how much pressure we can bring. It isn't. It's about when you bring it. The same threat that wins in one moment is harmless in another.

This week on S4N, Gene uses the looming Major League Basebal...

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Who does the frame of a negotiation actually belong to — and how do you make it belong to you?

We still believe in building a bridge — lowering the temperature, showing respect, finding the deal in the middle. That's the right move most of the time, and we're not walking it back. But sometimes you simply can't operate inside the other side's frame. So what do you do then?

This week on S4N, Gene works through that questi...

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A few weeks ago in Brooklyn, a woman climbed over a Plexiglas barrier and out onto the ledge of a 54-story building. The whole thing was caught on video. In a matter of minutes, two NYPD officers did something most of us wouldn't have the first idea how to do — they talked her back to safety.

Watch it closely and you realize almost nothing those officers said was an accident. They chose the order of their words carefully, the...

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How do you set a deal up for success when the most dangerous forces in your deal are the ones you can't negotiate with at all?  

You've probably heard the news: two weeks ago, Spirit Airlines — the ultra-low-cost carrier known to air traffic controllers a...

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This week on S4N, Gene leans into the recent public fascination with NASA – intensified by Artemis II's journey to the moon – to explore a different kind of mission: how to negotiate like a scientist.

Drawing on ideas from organizational psychologist Adam Grant and his book Think Again: The Power of Knowing What You Don't Know, Gene breaks down why most of us default to defending our views instead of testing them &ndash...

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Negotiation forces a tough question: are we fighting over slices – or building something bigger together?

Most deals don't fail because of bad intentions. They fail because the structure only works for one side.

This week on S4N, Gene uses the WNBA's new collective bargaining agreement to zero in on a core business challenge: how do you build a revenue-sharing deal that actually align...

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You've heard it before: support your position with data. But what if the data doesn't hold up?

This week on S4N, Gene unpacks the chilling case of Sally Clark – a British solicitor wrongfully convicted by numbers that looked airtight and were completely wrong – to expose how numbers can distort, not clarify, high-stakes decisions.

We break down the prosecutor's fallacy, the crit...

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The recent viral McDonald's CEO video got what most brands and companies are chasing: attention.

But attention isn't the same as buy-in – and it definitely isn't the same as getting a deal done.

This week on S4N, Gene unpacks what most people are missing when they look at moments like this – and why attention alone can be misleading, especially in sales and negotiation.

If you've ever had a conv...

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When you really want a deal, how do you show it – without tipping the balance against you?

This week on S4N, Gene breaks down a high-profile NFL coaching negotiation to explore a common challenge in negotiation: how much interest should you actually show when you want a deal?

Using the story of John Harbaugh's recent talks with the New York Giants, Gene walks through how both sides na...

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This week on S4N, we step into the turmoil surrounding the 1929 stock market crash and the international debt crisis it exposed — a moment when information was unreliable, risk was rising, and decisions at the table carried consequences far beyond the room.

Using this period as a lens, we give you the tools seasoned negotiators rely on when certainty disappears. By contrasting Wall Street's specula...

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Is every conflict actually negotiable — or are some negotiations designed to fail from the start?

This week on S4N, Gene examines the latest Russia-Ukraine negotiation efforts in Abu Dhabi through a negotiator's lens, not a political one. Instead of replaying headlines, he breaks down what seasoned dealmakers watch for beneath the surface: incentive misalig...

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What if the best sales skills weren't built in boardrooms, but in backchannels, briefings, and quiet conversations where every word counts?

This week on S4N, Gene pulls lessons from the world of espionage and shows why spy tradecraft maps surprisingly well to business negotiation. Drawing from Sell Like a Spy and Netflix's The Spy, he breaks down what intelligence professionals do differently when the stakes are high and the margin...

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In most negotiations, questions are collaborative tools. They clarify priorities, surface constraints, and move conversations forward.

This episode looks at what happens when they're used for something else.

In the first 2026 episode of S4N, Gene examines how questioning shifts from exploration to influence – and why that shift is difficult to recognize in real time.

Using examples from illegal gambling and reformed mobster M...

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Are your business meetings stalled, off-track, or simply not delivering results? Say goodbye to all that in 2026. In the last 2025 episode of S4N, Gene draws astonishing parallels between the missteps of world leaders in 1914 and the mistakes we still see in today's boardrooms, team huddles, and high-stakes negotiations.

Using colorful stories from the infamous Sarajevo assassination and the global domino effect that ensued, you'll...

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This week on S4N, Gene dives straight into one of the loudest leadership debates happening right now: is diversity a competitive advantage, or – as Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth recently claimed – "not our strength"?

Gene doesn't just push back on Hegseth's idea. He brings historical receipts.

Using one of the most powerful leadership case studies in American history, he breaks down how Abraham Lincoln built a warti...

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