September 6, 2024 • 29 mins
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Discover the untold story behind Donald Trump's presidency in the captivating documentary 'The Outlier.' Directed by Troy Black, this film explores the perspectives of diverse individuals who have chosen to support Trump, shedding light on the complex and often misunderstood reasons behind their decisions.
Delving into the spiritual and cultural implications of Trump's leadership, 'The Outlier' aims to bridge the divides within the Christian community and provide a balanced understanding of this controversial figure. Featuring insightful interviews and thought-provoking analysis, this documentary offers a unique and compelling look at one of the most polarizing presidents in modern history.
Don't miss this opportunity to gain a deeper understanding of the forces shaping the political landscape. Watch 'The Outlier' and discover the untold story behind Donald Trump's presidency.
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As the election heats up, there's a new documentary called The Outlier that helps give us a view of
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Donald Trump and also the issues and also talks about what God is saying in this election and how
the church should respond. The visionary for this is my guest today on The Strang Report. His name is
Troy Black. He's a popular podcaster who's become a friend. In fact, he interviewed me. I have a small
part in this documentary and I want to do my part to get people behind it. It's coming out in early
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October, about a month before the election. You don't want to miss my interview with Troy Black.
Stay tuned to The Strang Report. I'm Stephen Strang.
Welcome back everyone and welcome to you Troy Black. Thanks for being on my podcast.
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I'm so excited about this documentary that you've made called The Outlier.
Tell me about it and how do you think this is going to affect the election?
Well, Steve, thank you so much for having me. Yeah, I'm so excited. We're deep in the mix of
actually finishing up this film right now. So we got interviews from all over the United States
from different people in different walks of life, but each person having a sphere of influence
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that's kind of separate from each other. But the thing that connects all these people together is
that they're all supporting Donald Trump for presidency this year and for different reasons,
varying reasons. But one of the things that this film does and my heart behind creating this film
was to answer some of the questions that are happening within our culture right now.
And when I say within our culture, I'm not just talking about the culture of the United States,
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I'm talking about within the Christian culture. One of the things I've seen over the last four
years and even eight years is that is all of these little, what I would call great divides happening
within the Christian culture and within the church. I think some of it is generational in nature.
Some of it is based on different ideologies in nature. And then some of it just has to do with
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who you're around and the influences that you have. But I think a lot of it is generated from
the internet. We have this crazy ability to live inside of a household with family and friends
or whatever, different generations, and yet be influenced by so many different voices online
that it's almost like we're all growing up into our own separate little families before we even
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get outside of the family unit. And what's happened with issues like Donald Trump is that it can create
this divide between even individuals that love each other and are close to each other,
this huge divide and this huge gap between what they actually believe and how they're going to
vote ultimately. And so we're trying to answer the questions that have split people and divided people
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to help not only bring people back together and show the humanity of Donald Trump, the humanity of
some of these politicians, but also to give the reasons why. I think a lot of people are
asking the question, why would you vote for Trump? And then on the other side, people are asking the
question, why would you not vote for Trump? And it's hard for people to understand where other
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people are coming from. But I believe that this film is going to answer some of those questions
in a subtle way for people and show, hey, I have good reason for actually supporting him. And I can
actually justify supporting him and still stand on biblical truth, still show and demonstrate the
nature of Christ, and yet also reason through and use common sense and reason through the
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re the kind of the things that he supports and the things that I'm supporting, and show that.
And so we're trying to show that in a film form, that there are God fearing, Christ like Christians
who are supporting Trump, and they're not having to compromise in order to do that. And so that's
my hope. That's my hope for the film is that the Christian culture would be impacted in that way.
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And we're praying that this film would get in front of as many people as possible. And the
secondary hope for it is not just that it would impact the Christian culture, but that it would impact
the Republican Party and the conservative culture that's maybe grown up in church or maybe been
around religious things, but has not made that decision for Christ yet. And at the end of the
film, we're going to be sharing the gospel message. And that's my secondary hope is that it would be a
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message of light to people that need that and need the message of Jesus Christ. Well, I have so many
questions to ask you, but I think it'd be good if we would show the trailer. It's not very long.
So let's show the trailer and then we'll talk more about the outlier.
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Here he was a playboy billionaire. He was a Democrat. He was a darling of the press.
And for reasons that are hard to understand, he saw what was going on in our country and he felt he
had to do something. Everyone kind of thought it was a little bit of a joke is what it seemed like.
Obama is like a hood hero to the black community. He was saying that Trump was never going to win.
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Trump is dangerous. They had already anointed Hillary Clinton. I don't think most Americans
want the kind of divisive and dark change Donald Trump is offering. For a long time,
one of the most loved men in New York to become the most hated person in America.
It was shocking. Shout it out because I don't want to. She said he's a f***ing bastard.
I don't support everything Trump has done. Hillary said it, we don't like his tone.
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And he's not Mr. Rogers and we are not children. I turn on television,
they're chopping people's heads off in the Middle East. We haven't seen stuff like this since
medieval times and people are worried about my tone. People were friends with for more than 20
years when I came out and publicly supported Trump said, wow, I thought you were intelligent.
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We've got to quit doing this personality politics. It's about policy and principles.
You mean you don't like it that I was nice to the other candidates?
I'm not voting for a preacher. I'm voting for politicians. The legislation
is what's going to affect my family. We will claim the ideals of the Declaration of Independence.
The people who object to our values are often bullies. I'm not allowed to really speak
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what I feel. We're closer to tyranny than we've ever been.
And Donald Trump will do something that other politicians won't do. He stands up to the bullies.
Well, Donald, if you've got something to say, say it to my face.
The politicians all talk, no action. I don't owe anybody any favors.
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You saw people get behind him across the nation because they were excited that someone was
listening to their voice. This is the time to reignite the American imagination.
He loves this country. We must keep freedom alive in our souls.
We must choose whether we squander our great inheritance or whether we proudly declare
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that we are Americans. There's got to be some kind of
superpower on him because what he has taken could cripple most people.
He may not be perfect, but he honors the God who is.
I believe that there is a miraculous aspect. It explains why he survives these things
and they throw everything at him.
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Seeing the videos and just turned his head at the right moment and he was protected.
For him to stand up, that was a brave moment. To keep freedom alive, there's a price tag.
I think many of us have forgotten what that price tag is.
Wow, that is so good. That's even though, as you can see, I'm in there. In fact,
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I think had on the same tie, but I was honored to be asked and it was because I've written
several books about Donald Trump and I feel very passionately about it.
But tell me, how did you get the idea? Why did you do this documentary?
There are other documentaries made. I know that Paul Crouch Jr. made one
a few years ago and so forth. Why did you decide to do it?
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And the second question I have is why did you call it The Outlier?
Well, the reason was honestly, it was supernatural. It was a spiritual reason.
And that was one day I was literally just sitting in my office.
This was last November and I was scrolling on YouTube and I saw an image of Donald Trump
on a thumbnail. And suddenly I had this image in my mind and I felt the presence of God in that
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moment. It wasn't some crazy experience, but I knew it was the Holy Spirit speaking to me.
And I got this image of a Trump documentary. And immediately I knew, I was like, Lord,
you're trying to tell me that somebody's going to make a Trump documentary.
And I was thinking, there are many Trump documentaries out there that I know that
people have made. And then I sat there for a second and I just asked the Lord, I said,
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Lord, what are you trying to say? And suddenly I knew, it's like, God dropped this knowledge
in my heart. You're supposed to make a documentary. And I was like, okay. And that was it. I said,
I'm going to make a Trump documentary because the Lord told me to. That's it.
What was your second question? Why did you call it The Outlier?
Yeah. Okay. So The Outlier, we're trying to answer the question, how did Trump win in 2016?
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And then we're asking the question, because he won in 2016, can we see that same thing happen
again? Are the same things in place there, in place now? And should we expect that same result?
Obviously we had a different result in 2020. And so we look at Trump as an outlier based on some
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of the things that he says, some of the stances he's taken. One of the major stances being
this fight against the establishment. So throughout history and the history of the United States,
we've seen several different presidents that have been referred to as outliers. And the crazy thing
is I had this title just pop in my head right at the very start, that was the name of the film,
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almost from day one. It was like, I'm supposed to make this film called The Outlier. I wasn't sure
why. And as I started doing research, I found that a lot of the presidents throughout history
who were referred to as outliers shared similar traits to Donald Trump. One of those things was
that they were anti-establishment. They fought against the big government, people like Ronald
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Reagan, people like Roosevelt, people like Abraham Lincoln. And they fought against some of the
culturally accepted things of the time, like Abraham fighting against slavery. It was like
they fought against some of these things of the time that were culturally accepted in a lot of
ways, but historically looking back are not right. And we can see that from a historical perspective.
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And another thing that they share in common was that these same individuals were either
assassinated or had an assassination attempt on their life. And so the same individuals
that were kind of anti-establishment and stand out in these ways also had people trying to take them
out. And now we see that. And the crazy thing is we had all of this in place and we were even
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planning on filming a scene at the JFK assassination plot in Dallas, Texas. And we're still planning
on filming there. And he's another outlier, obviously coming from the other side. He's
more of a liberal figure, but he was also very anti-establishment. So he shared, even though
he's coming from the other side, he shared similar traits and the same thing happened. He was
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assassinated. And so we were planning on filming a scene of the film there before the Trump
assassination attempt even occurred. And I wasn't exactly sure how it was going to fit into the film,
but I knew I was supposed to. And then all of a sudden there's an attempt on his life and the
puzzle pieces started to come together. And so that really is the reason why, is that same way
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that Reagan was an actor before he was a politician. And obviously Reagan kind of made some
quips about it saying things like, well, I thought I was changing careers and then I realized I
really wasn't. Politicians are all actors, kind of making that joke. But we see the same way.
Donald Trump was not necessarily an actor, but he was an entertainer. He was a TV show host. All of
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these similarities to Reagan, he came from the outside. People didn't call him a politician.
You ask, why do you like Trump? And a lot of people said, well, he's not a politician.
He's able to look at things from a different angle. He was a businessman. He was an entertainer.
He had these different perspectives. So when he came in and he looked at the way that government
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was running and doing things, he said, we've got to change this. And I believe that was one of the
reasons why he stepped into that role in the first place, was that he looked at those things.
And that's something I know you talk about in the film, was some of the reasons why Trump
decided to make this change in his life. And obviously it's been probably a much bigger change
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than he could have ever perceived to start with. He didn't know that it was going to go the way
that it's gone, or that it was going to take so many years of his life, this huge project of being
president and then running three times and some of the difficulties that have come with that.
But that's the reason why, is because he came from the outside. And one of the things about
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an outlier that we talk about in the film is that, if you look at a set of data and you look at all
of the data that's coming in when you do a poll or you do something like that, you're expecting
data to be in a certain range. So the example I give in the film is that if you look at a website
and you're trying to poll the visitors to your website and see what age ranges are visiting your
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website, you might have them answer some questions about their age. And if somebody is like seven
years old or like 99 years old, those are going to be outliers because it's going to be less
frequent. The normal range is going to be between like 15 and 75, probably, somewhere in there.
So those might be outliers, but they're what you would call true outliers. So they're out of the
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ordinary. They're less common, but they can be true. But then you have the false outliers.
And those are the numbers. That's the data that's outside of the possible range. And so if somebody
said, I'm one years old and I'm browsing your website, or they said, I'm 137 and I'm browsing
your website, immediately you say, OK, that's user error or a joke. It's not true. They typed
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in something by accident or to be funny. And what happens with that data is it gets discarded.
And that's what we saw the media do to Trump as soon as they realized he was serious. See,
at first they thought he was a joke. And then they realized this was serious. And this was a
serious threat to their agenda and to the powers in place. And so as soon as they realized it was
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serious, then they began to try to paint this picture of this is a false outlier. This is
somebody who doesn't have any integrity. There's nothing good that's going to come out of this.
And they started to try to delegitimize this person in every way possible. And so one of the
things we do in the film is we try to rehumanize this man, Donald Trump. And I think some of the
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things we've seen lately, we've seen other people trying to do the same thing. Some of the
interviews that he's done, I don't know if the interview with Elon Musk is the best example,
but maybe the interview with some of the other interviews he's done recently, where he sits
down and he talks to people. And I've even had people in my life say, man, that was the first
time I looked at Donald Trump as a normal human being when I watched that interview. And it's
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because he is a normal human being and he has likes and dislikes. He has feelings, he has emotions,
he has desires and he has compassion. Just like any human being, he has some sort of empathy for
a fellow man. But a lot of times he gets painted in this light, he gets painted as a dictator,
he gets painted as a narcissist, he gets painted as all these different things, like the devil
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himself, or the antichrist or whatever, depending on the culture. And we're trying to show, hey,
Donald Trump is not a perfect person. He's got flaws, he's got a past, he's got history,
he said some things, sure. But he's a human being and there's a lot of good there that can be done.
And especially from a Christian perspective, I believe that God can do a lot of good through
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him and that he already has. And so we look at some of those facts as well. What are the things
that he accomplished the first time around, the first four years in office? And some people have
used that argument lately saying, because people have said, well, if he gets in office again,
he's going to be a dictator. And people have said, well, look at the first four years. We can already
see what he's done and we can have an idea of what he's going to do again. And so we're trying to
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give people some valid reasons why they could vote for him, but also we're trying to equip
the people that already are supporting Trump, but have friends and family members that are
completely anti-Trump. We're trying to equip them with number one, some extra knowledge that they
can use if they don't already have that to be able to defend their stance, but also just a resource
that they can share and say, hey, I understand that you have some hard feelings against Trump
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and some hard stances against this man and his campaign, but would you be willing to watch this
film? I think it's going to answer some of the questions you may have. And I think it's going
to help bridge that gap. Well, I'm so proud of you're doing this film and I agree with what you say.
And I know this to be true because I interviewed Donald Trump. In fact, we found some footage. It
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was actually filmed on an iPhone and I had forgotten about it because my podcast was audio
packed then. And I ran it on my podcast a couple of days ago. People can go on YouTube and find it.
It was a short interview, but I asked him who would give him spiritual advice. I asked him
about some things that the Bible said, but you can see, you know, we were sitting in a green room
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at the back of a convention hall somewhere, but he was respectful. He was calm. He wasn't crazy
like the media plays him. And, you know, one of the things that I believe is that there's a spiritual
aspect to this. Now it's not part of the debate and even we Christians are sometimes hesitant
to talk about it because we're ridiculed, but Kim Clement and some others prophesied that he'd be
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elected two terms. And then of course, when it didn't happen, they were ridiculed. It's why I
wrote God and Donald Trump. And then you have to ask, why did he turn a split second and that
bullet missed him? You know, why does God up to? But let's get back to talking about this election
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because we have in Kamala Harris, a person that just 60 days ago was a national joke.
Even Democrats made fun of her because of her laughter and what they call words, salads and so
forth. And now they're saying that the polls are neck and neck and she's a person who has really
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very little experience. And you talk about policies. I mean, it's one thing to have a policy
about fracking. It's another, what is our national defense going to be and how would our president
lead us in a very dangerous world? There's some very, very dangerous players out there. And
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Donald Trump has proven that he'd be strong. So explain to me why you think it's so close
and how could the body of Christ make the difference? Because I think it's true
that a lot of Christians stay home. Don't vote. Well, from my perspective, I think there's several
reasons why. Number one is there's a huge no Trump side to this coin. There are a lot of even
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Christians in the Christian culture. There's subcultures that would just never vote for Trump
for various reasons. And so we're trying to affect that culture. We're trying to speak into that,
obviously. But yeah, another thing is, I think it's up to 30% of Christians are not going to vote
now or are choosing not to vote. And I think it's because they feel like they don't have a good
choice. So that's another thing we're trying to address is, hey, you actually have an option here
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and it's not just that you have an option, that's a good option, but it's that the severity of
not voting and is almost throwing a vote for the other side in some cases. And it's like
if once you start to see, I didn't even fully know what Kamala Harris supported until I started
making this film, and in just the last couple of months of her being in the spotlight and stuff,
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and I started doing the research and I started to see some of these things. And I'm not kidding you,
Steve, I got scared. And it's like, that's me being transparent here, but I'm like,
this is scary. I did not understand some of the views that she had on some of these topics,
things like not just moral issues like abortion and sexuality, but economic issues and things
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that are going to affect the state of this nation and the people that live here. It's scary to
think about from a common sense perspective that someone could have some of these views
and potentially be in leadership. But here's the other side of the coin that I think some
people are missing is that Kamala Harris is a woman and we have not had a woman president,
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and I said this on my podcast the other day on YouTube, I said, I'm praying that we get our first
woman president. I said, I'm hoping that we do get our first woman president, not this time around,
obviously, because I don't want her to be president, but I'm saying, but sometime soon in the next
couple of election cycles, I'm hoping we get one. And I'm just hoping that, and I'm praying that
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she'll be a godly one. But here's the reason why I say that. And I even had some women in the
comments on the live stream saying, no, you don't want a woman president. And here are the reasons
why. And here's my response to that is that it's inevitable. It's inevitable because of the culture
we live in today and it's a culture of firsts. Barack Obama, a lot of people voted for Barack,
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and I've heard the stories of people voting for him and saying, I voted for him because I was so
on board with the first black president idea that we needed a black president, which we did and we
do. But the problem was that it was Barack Obama. And then later they recanted that and they said,
I got so hyped about it because he was going to be the first black president. I didn't realize
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what I was doing. And later I've switched sides and I've regretted that decision. And so that's
the other issue is that people are so gung ho for a female president, which I believe is inevitable.
And because it's inevitable, and I would support any either way, personally, I know some people
would, some people wouldn't, but because it's inevitable, I'm praying that that's going to be
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a godly woman that gets into office once that happens. And I think when that happens and when
she's on the right ticket that we should all throw our weight behind her, but it's definitely not
Kamala Harris. And that scares me. And I think that's why the polls, it's because people are
throwing their emotions into the game and they're saying, well, I'm going to be behind the first
woman president. Historically, it's not going to be said that I wasn't behind the first woman
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president. And that's what's scary about it is they're looking at the emotions and they're
making that decision based on emotion instead of based on the values that she holds and the
policies that she's promoting. And once you start doing the research, you're going to be
once you start doing the research and looking at the policies themselves, like I said, it gets
very scary and it's not a good picture. Well, our country is so divided. There are some states
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that will vote red kind of no matter what, and some states that will vote blue kind of no matter
who. So it's going to come down to a few swing states. And I personally believe that Donald
Trump is stronger than the polls are saying, but it's scary how close it is. So how can
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a documentary, a film like The Outlier make a difference? When is it playing? How can people
get involved? How can we get as many people to see this as possible and how will the film affect
the election? Well, number one, I would say if people want to get involved to go watch the
trailer, well, obviously, again, we showed it during this podcast, but go find the trailer on
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YouTube and share it with somebody, maybe not everybody if you're not led to post it, but like
share it with somebody. And we've already had people sending the trailer to people that are
not planning on voting for Trump, but could potentially be persuaded. And they're sending
that and saying, hey, maybe you need to check this out because they know what's going to be inside
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the film. Number two, make sure you watch the film when it comes out. It's going to be coming out
the beginning of October. So there's going to be about a month between when the film releases
and the election. So we're leaving a little time there. I mean, we're hoping for a viral result,
but you never know. Even if it's only a small impact, at least I was obedient to what I felt
like the Lord is telling me to do. But it's going to be available online. I'm not sure all of the
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different spaces is going to be available. We're still looking into that right now, but it's mostly
going to be available as a streaming film where people can watch it online in various places.
And then the way it could potentially affect the election is, the thing I talked about the very
beginning of this podcast was the culture war that we're experiencing and the cultural divides
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that are happening within the Christian culture. One of the things that I've seen in my short time
here on earth is, and being a part of various families and various church cultures and I've
attended a lot of different churches over my life. And the one that me and my wife are in now is the
one I've been in the longest, except for when I was a little child. But what I've seen in all
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these different cultures is that a lot of times whatever culture is the biggest inside of that,
in that church or family or whatever, whatever culture is the loudest, oftentimes steamrolls
the other cultures inside of that culture and the other opinions. And the term nowadays is
gaslighting, right? Like that's the new term that everyone's using. It's like, but it's been
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happening for a long time, you know, and I've always used that term steamroll. But especially
the younger generation that is now voting age, what I've seen personally is that when their culture
gets ignored or it doesn't get, somebody doesn't pry into it or ask them the question, what do
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you think? They just go silent. They go silent. And then they go online and they listen to people
that are reinforcing what they believe or they've gotten their beliefs from people they're listening
to online. And so they're creating their own culture inside of this. And I'm trying to break
those barriers down and get people to start talking again and get people to actually ask those
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questions. What do you really believe? And I think what happens is some people are afraid of even
saying it in the culture that's loudest. Like if you go to a church that's very pro-Trump,
you might be afraid of even saying, I don't think I'm going to vote for Trump because you're afraid
of the cultural reaction. You know, you're afraid of the backlash. But what if we had inside of the
Christian culture, what if we had a culture where, you know, the love of Christ is so prevalent and
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so obvious and so readily available between believers that if somebody said that they wouldn't
be afraid of the backlash. Instead, they would be expected to get invited out to coffee. And then two
people can sit down and they can say, let me know, like, can you share your concerns with me? I'd
love to have a discussion with you about it. And then, you know, and then it's this beautiful thing
that can maybe even like affect that person and change their mind ultimately, instead of just
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excluding them further and pushing them more to the outside. So that's my hope, Steve, is that this
would be a, have a cultural impact on the American church and the Christian community in that way.
I am so excited about The Outlier and I hope that you are too and that you will do your part
to share this. You can start by sharing this podcast with others, put it on social media,
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email it to a friend and watch for it when it comes out in early October. Also, if you're
interested in Trump, you need to check out my books. You can go to Amazon, just put in Stephen
Strang and Trump and all four of my Trump books will pop up. I believe they're good reading. And
of course, if you followed the Strang Report, I've talked about it before. I just wanted to
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mention it now. Thank you for watching. Until next time, God bless you.
As the election heats up, there's a new documentary called The Outlier that helps give us a view of
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Donald Trump and also the issues and also talks about what God is saying in this election and how
the church should respond. The visionary for this is my guest today on The Strang Report. His name is
Troy Black. He's a popular podcaster who's become a friend. In fact, he interviewed me. I have a small
part in this documentary and I want to do my part to get people behind it. It's coming out in early
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October, about a month before the election. You don't want to miss my interview with Troy Black.
Stay tuned to The Strang Report. I'm Stephen Strang.
Welcome back everyone and welcome to you Troy Black. Thanks for being on my podcast.
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I'm so excited about this documentary that you've made called The Outlier.
Tell me about it and how do you think this is going to affect the election?
Well, Steve, thank you so much for having me. Yeah, I'm so excited. We're deep in the mix of
actually finishing up this film right now. So we got interviews from all over the United States
from different people in different walks of life, but each person having a sphere of influence
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that's kind of separate from each other. But the thing that connects all these people together is
that they're all supporting Donald Trump for presidency this year and for different reasons,
varying reasons. But one of the things that this film does and my heart behind creating this film
was to answer some of the questions that are happening within our culture right now.
And when I say within our culture, I'm not just talking about the culture of the United States,
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I'm talking about within the Christian culture. One of the things I've seen over the last four
years and even eight years is that is all of these little, what I would call great divides happening
within the Christian culture and within the church. I think some of it is generational in nature.
Some of it is based on different ideologies in nature. And then some of it just has to do with
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who you're around and the influences that you have. But I think a lot of it is generated from
the internet. We have this crazy ability to live inside of a household with family and friends
or whatever, different generations, and yet be influenced by so many different voices online
that it's almost like we're all growing up into our own separate little families before we even
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get outside of the family unit. And what's happened with issues like Donald Trump is that it can create
this divide between even individuals that love each other and are close to each other,
this huge divide and this huge gap between what they actually believe and how they're going to
vote ultimately. And so we're trying to answer the questions that have split people and divided people
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to help not only bring people back together and show the humanity of Donald Trump, the humanity of
some of these politicians, but also to give the reasons why. I think a lot of people are
asking the question, why would you vote for Trump? And then on the other side, people are asking the
question, why would you not vote for Trump? And it's hard for people to understand where other
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people are coming from. But I believe that this film is going to answer some of those questions
in a subtle way for people and show, hey, I have good reason for actually supporting him. And I can
actually justify supporting him and still stand on biblical truth, still show and demonstrate the
nature of Christ, and yet also reason through and use common sense and reason through the
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re the kind of the things that he supports and the things that I'm supporting, and show that.
And so we're trying to show that in a film form, that there are God fearing, Christ like Christians
who are supporting Trump, and they're not having to compromise in order to do that. And so that's
my hope. That's my hope for the film is that the Christian culture would be impacted in that way.
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And we're praying that this film would get in front of as many people as possible. And the
secondary hope for it is not just that it would impact the Christian culture, but that it would impact
the Republican Party and the conservative culture that's maybe grown up in church or maybe been
around religious things, but has not made that decision for Christ yet. And at the end of the
film, we're going to be sharing the gospel message. And that's my secondary hope is that it would be a
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message of light to people that need that and need the message of Jesus Christ. Well, I have so many
questions to ask you, but I think it'd be good if we would show the trailer. It's not very long.
So let's show the trailer and then we'll talk more about the outlier.
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Here he was a playboy billionaire. He was a Democrat. He was a darling of the press.
And for reasons that are hard to understand, he saw what was going on in our country and he felt he
had to do something. Everyone kind of thought it was a little bit of a joke is what it seemed like.
Obama is like a hood hero to the black community. He was saying that Trump was never going to win.
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Trump is dangerous. They had already anointed Hillary Clinton. I don't think most Americans
want the kind of divisive and dark change Donald Trump is offering. For a long time,
one of the most loved men in New York to become the most hated person in America.
It was shocking. Shout it out because I don't want to. She said he's a f***ing bastard.
I don't support everything Trump has done. Hillary said it, we don't like his tone.
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And he's not Mr. Rogers and we are not children. I turn on television,
they're chopping people's heads off in the Middle East. We haven't seen stuff like this since
medieval times and people are worried about my tone. People were friends with for more than 20
years when I came out and publicly supported Trump said, wow, I thought you were intelligent.
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We've got to quit doing this personality politics. It's about policy and principles.
You mean you don't like it that I was nice to the other candidates?
I'm not voting for a preacher. I'm voting for politicians. The legislation
is what's going to affect my family. We will claim the ideals of the Declaration of Independence.
The people who object to our values are often bullies. I'm not allowed to really speak
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what I feel. We're closer to tyranny than we've ever been.
And Donald Trump will do something that other politicians won't do. He stands up to the bullies.
Well, Donald, if you've got something to say, say it to my face.
The politicians all talk, no action. I don't owe anybody any favors.
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You saw people get behind him across the nation because they were excited that someone was
listening to their voice. This is the time to reignite the American imagination.
He loves this country. We must keep freedom alive in our souls.
We must choose whether we squander our great inheritance or whether we proudly declare
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that we are Americans. There's got to be some kind of
superpower on him because what he has taken could cripple most people.
He may not be perfect, but he honors the God who is.
I believe that there is a miraculous aspect. It explains why he survives these things
and they throw everything at him.
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Seeing the videos and just turned his head at the right moment and he was protected.
For him to stand up, that was a brave moment. To keep freedom alive, there's a price tag.
I think many of us have forgotten what that price tag is.
Wow, that is so good. That's even though, as you can see, I'm in there. In fact,
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I think had on the same tie, but I was honored to be asked and it was because I've written
several books about Donald Trump and I feel very passionately about it.
But tell me, how did you get the idea? Why did you do this documentary?
There are other documentaries made. I know that Paul Crouch Jr. made one
a few years ago and so forth. Why did you decide to do it?
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And the second question I have is why did you call it The Outlier?
Well, the reason was honestly, it was supernatural. It was a spiritual reason.
And that was one day I was literally just sitting in my office.
This was last November and I was scrolling on YouTube and I saw an image of Donald Trump
on a thumbnail. And suddenly I had this image in my mind and I felt the presence of God in that
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moment. It wasn't some crazy experience, but I knew it was the Holy Spirit speaking to me.
And I got this image of a Trump documentary. And immediately I knew, I was like, Lord,
you're trying to tell me that somebody's going to make a Trump documentary.
And I was thinking, there are many Trump documentaries out there that I know that
people have made. And then I sat there for a second and I just asked the Lord, I said,
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Lord, what are you trying to say? And suddenly I knew, it's like, God dropped this knowledge
in my heart. You're supposed to make a documentary. And I was like, okay. And that was it. I said,
I'm going to make a Trump documentary because the Lord told me to. That's it.
What was your second question? Why did you call it The Outlier?
Yeah. Okay. So The Outlier, we're trying to answer the question, how did Trump win in 2016?
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And then we're asking the question, because he won in 2016, can we see that same thing happen
again? Are the same things in place there, in place now? And should we expect that same result?
Obviously we had a different result in 2020. And so we look at Trump as an outlier based on some
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of the things that he says, some of the stances he's taken. One of the major stances being
this fight against the establishment. So throughout history and the history of the United States,
we've seen several different presidents that have been referred to as outliers. And the crazy thing
is I had this title just pop in my head right at the very start, that was the name of the film,
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almost from day one. It was like, I'm supposed to make this film called The Outlier. I wasn't sure
why. And as I started doing research, I found that a lot of the presidents throughout history
who were referred to as outliers shared similar traits to Donald Trump. One of those things was
that they were anti-establishment. They fought against the big government, people like Ronald
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Reagan, people like Roosevelt, people like Abraham Lincoln. And they fought against some of the
culturally accepted things of the time, like Abraham fighting against slavery. It was like
they fought against some of these things of the time that were culturally accepted in a lot of
ways, but historically looking back are not right. And we can see that from a historical perspective.
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And another thing that they share in common was that these same individuals were either
assassinated or had an assassination attempt on their life. And so the same individuals
that were kind of anti-establishment and stand out in these ways also had people trying to take them
out. And now we see that. And the crazy thing is we had all of this in place and we were even
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planning on filming a scene at the JFK assassination plot in Dallas, Texas. And we're still planning
on filming there. And he's another outlier, obviously coming from the other side. He's
more of a liberal figure, but he was also very anti-establishment. So he shared, even though
he's coming from the other side, he shared similar traits and the same thing happened. He was
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assassinated. And so we were planning on filming a scene of the film there before the Trump
assassination attempt even occurred. And I wasn't exactly sure how it was going to fit into the film,
but I knew I was supposed to. And then all of a sudden there's an attempt on his life and the
puzzle pieces started to come together. And so that really is the reason why, is that same way
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that Reagan was an actor before he was a politician. And obviously Reagan kind of made some
quips about it saying things like, well, I thought I was changing careers and then I realized I
really wasn't. Politicians are all actors, kind of making that joke. But we see the same way.
Donald Trump was not necessarily an actor, but he was an entertainer. He was a TV show host. All of
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these similarities to Reagan, he came from the outside. People didn't call him a politician.
You ask, why do you like Trump? And a lot of people said, well, he's not a politician.
He's able to look at things from a different angle. He was a businessman. He was an entertainer.
He had these different perspectives. So when he came in and he looked at the way that government
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was running and doing things, he said, we've got to change this. And I believe that was one of the
reasons why he stepped into that role in the first place, was that he looked at those things.
And that's something I know you talk about in the film, was some of the reasons why Trump
decided to make this change in his life. And obviously it's been probably a much bigger change
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than he could have ever perceived to start with. He didn't know that it was going to go the way
that it's gone, or that it was going to take so many years of his life, this huge project of being
president and then running three times and some of the difficulties that have come with that.
But that's the reason why, is because he came from the outside. And one of the things about
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an outlier that we talk about in the film is that, if you look at a set of data and you look at all
of the data that's coming in when you do a poll or you do something like that, you're expecting
data to be in a certain range. So the example I give in the film is that if you look at a website
and you're trying to poll the visitors to your website and see what age ranges are visiting your
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website, you might have them answer some questions about their age. And if somebody is like seven
years old or like 99 years old, those are going to be outliers because it's going to be less
frequent. The normal range is going to be between like 15 and 75, probably, somewhere in there.
So those might be outliers, but they're what you would call true outliers. So they're out of the
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ordinary. They're less common, but they can be true. But then you have the false outliers.
And those are the numbers. That's the data that's outside of the possible range. And so if somebody
said, I'm one years old and I'm browsing your website, or they said, I'm 137 and I'm browsing
your website, immediately you say, OK, that's user error or a joke. It's not true. They typed
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in something by accident or to be funny. And what happens with that data is it gets discarded.
And that's what we saw the media do to Trump as soon as they realized he was serious. See,
at first they thought he was a joke. And then they realized this was serious. And this was a
serious threat to their agenda and to the powers in place. And so as soon as they realized it was
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serious, then they began to try to paint this picture of this is a false outlier. This is
somebody who doesn't have any integrity. There's nothing good that's going to come out of this.
And they started to try to delegitimize this person in every way possible. And so one of the
things we do in the film is we try to rehumanize this man, Donald Trump. And I think some of the
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things we've seen lately, we've seen other people trying to do the same thing. Some of the
interviews that he's done, I don't know if the interview with Elon Musk is the best example,
but maybe the interview with some of the other interviews he's done recently, where he sits
down and he talks to people. And I've even had people in my life say, man, that was the first
time I looked at Donald Trump as a normal human being when I watched that interview. And it's
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because he is a normal human being and he has likes and dislikes. He has feelings, he has emotions,
he has desires and he has compassion. Just like any human being, he has some sort of empathy for
a fellow man. But a lot of times he gets painted in this light, he gets painted as a dictator,
he gets painted as a narcissist, he gets painted as all these different things, like the devil
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himself, or the antichrist or whatever, depending on the culture. And we're trying to show, hey,
Donald Trump is not a perfect person. He's got flaws, he's got a past, he's got history,
he said some things, sure. But he's a human being and there's a lot of good there that can be done.
And especially from a Christian perspective, I believe that God can do a lot of good through
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him and that he already has. And so we look at some of those facts as well. What are the things
that he accomplished the first time around, the first four years in office? And some people have
used that argument lately saying, because people have said, well, if he gets in office again,
he's going to be a dictator. And people have said, well, look at the first four years. We can already
see what he's done and we can have an idea of what he's going to do again. And so we're trying to
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give people some valid reasons why they could vote for him, but also we're trying to equip
the people that already are supporting Trump, but have friends and family members that are
completely anti-Trump. We're trying to equip them with number one, some extra knowledge that they
can use if they don't already have that to be able to defend their stance, but also just a resource
that they can share and say, hey, I understand that you have some hard feelings against Trump
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and some hard stances against this man and his campaign, but would you be willing to watch this
film? I think it's going to answer some of the questions you may have. And I think it's going
to help bridge that gap. Well, I'm so proud of you're doing this film and I agree with what you say.
And I know this to be true because I interviewed Donald Trump. In fact, we found some footage. It
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was actually filmed on an iPhone and I had forgotten about it because my podcast was audio
packed then. And I ran it on my podcast a couple of days ago. People can go on YouTube and find it.
It was a short interview, but I asked him who would give him spiritual advice. I asked him
about some things that the Bible said, but you can see, you know, we were sitting in a green room
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at the back of a convention hall somewhere, but he was respectful. He was calm. He wasn't crazy
like the media plays him. And, you know, one of the things that I believe is that there's a spiritual
aspect to this. Now it's not part of the debate and even we Christians are sometimes hesitant
to talk about it because we're ridiculed, but Kim Clement and some others prophesied that he'd be
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elected two terms. And then of course, when it didn't happen, they were ridiculed. It's why I
wrote God and Donald Trump. And then you have to ask, why did he turn a split second and that
bullet missed him? You know, why does God up to? But let's get back to talking about this election
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because we have in Kamala Harris, a person that just 60 days ago was a national joke.
Even Democrats made fun of her because of her laughter and what they call words, salads and so
forth. And now they're saying that the polls are neck and neck and she's a person who has really
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very little experience. And you talk about policies. I mean, it's one thing to have a policy
about fracking. It's another, what is our national defense going to be and how would our president
lead us in a very dangerous world? There's some very, very dangerous players out there. And
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Donald Trump has proven that he'd be strong. So explain to me why you think it's so close
and how could the body of Christ make the difference? Because I think it's true
that a lot of Christians stay home. Don't vote. Well, from my perspective, I think there's several
reasons why. Number one is there's a huge no Trump side to this coin. There are a lot of even
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Christians in the Christian culture. There's subcultures that would just never vote for Trump
for various reasons. And so we're trying to affect that culture. We're trying to speak into that,
obviously. But yeah, another thing is, I think it's up to 30% of Christians are not going to vote
now or are choosing not to vote. And I think it's because they feel like they don't have a good
choice. So that's another thing we're trying to address is, hey, you actually have an option here
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and it's not just that you have an option, that's a good option, but it's that the severity of
not voting and is almost throwing a vote for the other side in some cases. And it's like
if once you start to see, I didn't even fully know what Kamala Harris supported until I started
making this film, and in just the last couple of months of her being in the spotlight and stuff,
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and I started doing the research and I started to see some of these things. And I'm not kidding you,
Steve, I got scared. And it's like, that's me being transparent here, but I'm like,
this is scary. I did not understand some of the views that she had on some of these topics,
things like not just moral issues like abortion and sexuality, but economic issues and things
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that are going to affect the state of this nation and the people that live here. It's scary to
think about from a common sense perspective that someone could have some of these views
and potentially be in leadership. But here's the other side of the coin that I think some
people are missing is that Kamala Harris is a woman and we have not had a woman president,
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and I said this on my podcast the other day on YouTube, I said, I'm praying that we get our first
woman president. I said, I'm hoping that we do get our first woman president, not this time around,
obviously, because I don't want her to be president, but I'm saying, but sometime soon in the next
couple of election cycles, I'm hoping we get one. And I'm just hoping that, and I'm praying that
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she'll be a godly one. But here's the reason why I say that. And I even had some women in the
comments on the live stream saying, no, you don't want a woman president. And here are the reasons
why. And here's my response to that is that it's inevitable. It's inevitable because of the culture
we live in today and it's a culture of firsts. Barack Obama, a lot of people voted for Barack,
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and I've heard the stories of people voting for him and saying, I voted for him because I was so
on board with the first black president idea that we needed a black president, which we did and we
do. But the problem was that it was Barack Obama. And then later they recanted that and they said,
I got so hyped about it because he was going to be the first black president. I didn't realize
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what I was doing. And later I've switched sides and I've regretted that decision. And so that's
the other issue is that people are so gung ho for a female president, which I believe is inevitable.
And because it's inevitable, and I would support any either way, personally, I know some people
would, some people wouldn't, but because it's inevitable, I'm praying that that's going to be
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a godly woman that gets into office once that happens. And I think when that happens and when
she's on the right ticket that we should all throw our weight behind her, but it's definitely not
Kamala Harris. And that scares me. And I think that's why the polls, it's because people are
throwing their emotions into the game and they're saying, well, I'm going to be behind the first
woman president. Historically, it's not going to be said that I wasn't behind the first woman
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president. And that's what's scary about it is they're looking at the emotions and they're
making that decision based on emotion instead of based on the values that she holds and the
policies that she's promoting. And once you start doing the research, you're going to be
once you start doing the research and looking at the policies themselves, like I said, it gets
very scary and it's not a good picture. Well, our country is so divided. There are some states
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that will vote red kind of no matter what, and some states that will vote blue kind of no matter
who. So it's going to come down to a few swing states. And I personally believe that Donald
Trump is stronger than the polls are saying, but it's scary how close it is. So how can
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a documentary, a film like The Outlier make a difference? When is it playing? How can people
get involved? How can we get as many people to see this as possible and how will the film affect
the election? Well, number one, I would say if people want to get involved to go watch the
trailer, well, obviously, again, we showed it during this podcast, but go find the trailer on
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YouTube and share it with somebody, maybe not everybody if you're not led to post it, but like
share it with somebody. And we've already had people sending the trailer to people that are
not planning on voting for Trump, but could potentially be persuaded. And they're sending
that and saying, hey, maybe you need to check this out because they know what's going to be inside
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the film. Number two, make sure you watch the film when it comes out. It's going to be coming out
the beginning of October. So there's going to be about a month between when the film releases
and the election. So we're leaving a little time there. I mean, we're hoping for a viral result,
but you never know. Even if it's only a small impact, at least I was obedient to what I felt
like the Lord is telling me to do. But it's going to be available online. I'm not sure all of the
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different spaces is going to be available. We're still looking into that right now, but it's mostly
going to be available as a streaming film where people can watch it online in various places.
And then the way it could potentially affect the election is, the thing I talked about the very
beginning of this podcast was the culture war that we're experiencing and the cultural divides
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that are happening within the Christian culture. One of the things that I've seen in my short time
here on earth is, and being a part of various families and various church cultures and I've
attended a lot of different churches over my life. And the one that me and my wife are in now is the
one I've been in the longest, except for when I was a little child. But what I've seen in all
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these different cultures is that a lot of times whatever culture is the biggest inside of that,
in that church or family or whatever, whatever culture is the loudest, oftentimes steamrolls
the other cultures inside of that culture and the other opinions. And the term nowadays is
gaslighting, right? Like that's the new term that everyone's using. It's like, but it's been
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happening for a long time, you know, and I've always used that term steamroll. But especially
the younger generation that is now voting age, what I've seen personally is that when their culture
gets ignored or it doesn't get, somebody doesn't pry into it or ask them the question, what do
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you think? They just go silent. They go silent. And then they go online and they listen to people
that are reinforcing what they believe or they've gotten their beliefs from people they're listening
to online. And so they're creating their own culture inside of this. And I'm trying to break
those barriers down and get people to start talking again and get people to actually ask those
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questions. What do you really believe? And I think what happens is some people are afraid of even
saying it in the culture that's loudest. Like if you go to a church that's very pro-Trump,
you might be afraid of even saying, I don't think I'm going to vote for Trump because you're afraid
of the cultural reaction. You know, you're afraid of the backlash. But what if we had inside of the
Christian culture, what if we had a culture where, you know, the love of Christ is so prevalent and
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so obvious and so readily available between believers that if somebody said that they wouldn't
be afraid of the backlash. Instead, they would be expected to get invited out to coffee. And then two
people can sit down and they can say, let me know, like, can you share your concerns with me? I'd
love to have a discussion with you about it. And then, you know, and then it's this beautiful thing
that can maybe even like affect that person and change their mind ultimately, instead of just
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excluding them further and pushing them more to the outside. So that's my hope, Steve, is that this
would be a, have a cultural impact on the American church and the Christian community in that way.
I am so excited about The Outlier and I hope that you are too and that you will do your part
to share this. You can start by sharing this podcast with others, put it on social media,
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email it to a friend and watch for it when it comes out in early October. Also, if you're
interested in Trump, you need to check out my books. You can go to Amazon, just put in Stephen
Strang and Trump and all four of my Trump books will pop up. I believe they're good reading. And
of course, if you followed the Strang Report, I've talked about it before. I just wanted to
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mention it now. Thank you for watching. Until next time, God bless you.
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