Crappy New Year! (this is NOT episode #286)

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Dial up the MVPA. Put I'm on your tinfoil hat,
and know that it's only a matter of time before
AI eradicates all biological scum. It's time for suggested articles
a podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
Well, hello, hello boy, it's been a long time. Happy
New Year, Happy New Year to you.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
It does feel like it's been a long time.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
I feel like it feels like it's been a long
time between every episode. But this time we actually did
take kind of a break because we recorded the holiday
party in advance, yes of the holidays, and then we
are recording the same day this will be released, which
means we'll have only the freshest and most current news,
except probably not because we have a lot of old

(01:01):
year to talking about.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
We have so much backtracking to do. Yes, it's it's insane.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
Oh boy, Yeah, how's everything been going.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
You know, I'm a little concerned. I noticed this year
I was working on New Year's Eve and you know,
clock strikes midnight, everybody's like eh, and then everybody's with
the Happy New Year, and just like you started the
show with it. And I've never felt more that that
is just an empty platitude, Like I don't know what's

(01:32):
going to be happy this year. Yeah, it's coming to
kill us, sure, yeah, you know, or see what else? Yeah,
or replace us. There's drones everywhere. I think they're making there.
I think they're putting out another Mission Impossible movie this year.
I mean, I'm just what is there to look forward to?

Speaker 2 (01:50):
Well? Not a Mission Impossible movie? Definitely not. No, no, no, no, boy,
Now you put me on the spot. Is there anything
in twenty twenty five can forward to? I hope we
meet up in tone of pon Nevada.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
Oh yeah, yeah, we're planning. We're planning the trip to
the desert ghost town once more.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
I hope we can pull that off if we.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
Stay two nights. We need to do one night at
the clown motel.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
For you and then you said one are ever going
to stay there?

Speaker 1 (02:20):
No, it's disgusting. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
Can we just pay them by the hour and just
go in there, get some footage you get out maybe.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
But we could just we could get we could get
the footage and then just sleep in our cars. We
go to the Best Western, you know, if we just
need one room there, right, we just need one room.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
We'll go in. We'll say checking in please, and then
like we'll go we'll take some pictures, we'll scream, we'll
record a little bit of audio, and then we'll go
back out and say checking out please, And they won't understand.
They'll just think we fucked. But it'll be okay because
our women are with us.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
That's the plan. We don't know if they will.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
Be, but some kind of quick orgy. Well, yeah, last
time we went to this haunt ghost town in Nevada,
Jennifer got sick.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
Yeah, she didn't make the trip.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
Yeah, carry was there and our friend Jacob was there.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
But yeah, and we stayed in what's supposed to be
one of the most haunted motels in America, the Mitzpah
there and there were no ghosts, I don't think. Two
nights no ghosts.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
I had a hard time with my room's door. Oh,
but did not did not see any ghosts, didn't have
sex with any ghosts.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
No, something fell in our bathroom one night, but know, yeah,
you had something chills or nothing. It was I mean,
as far as ghostectvy goes not great now somewhere I
did do have the recording. I left a recorder on
when I did stay at the Clown Hotel years ago, and.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
I just when the police came to pick up your
bodies or.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
Pretty much pretty much. I should find those pictures. Like,
and I don't know how much of it is for
ambiance or anything, but I stayed in it some shady
places over the years, and this was definitely one of
the ones that, like, the carpet was so gross, Like
I didn't want to I didn't want to take my
shoes off. I didn't want to take my shoes off.

(04:13):
You know, it was it was that bad because you know,
you know when carpet gets old and grimy and it's
just gross. Yes, yes, yeah, yeah it was. It was
like that in the clean spots.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
Now, I don't mean to impugne this establishment. I'm sure that. Look,
the people that run the place have been very nice
and good to us over the years. Let us let
us be the idiots that we are and carry on whatever.
And but you know, still, first of.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
All, I could post a picture or two of the
Clown Motel on the Patreon. I do take they have
a clown museum and next door to the clown Motel,
because of course it's a graveyard full of dead miners
and their children, right, good, yeah, it's good stuff.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
Yeah, Oh here's the thing, okay. Oh nope, nope, I
got nothing. I can give you the pictures of the carpet.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
I have those.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
Yeah, And if I can dig up that recording, I'll
go through it, chop it up, see if there's any
EVPs in there.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
Guys, there was this story a year or two ago
about a guy who checked into some hotel. It was
probably a fine hotel. I don't know if it was
like a fancy place or just a shipball, I don't know. Sure,
this guy checks into this hotel and the person working
the front desk, you know, gives him his key and
you know, have a nice stacer and all that stuff.

(05:39):
And then a number of hours later, that guy is
sleeping and he wakes up and the front desk guy
is in his hotel room sucking on his toes. And like,
there's a lot wrong with that story. Sure, it's a
form of like sexual assault, and it's disgusting and all that.
But the thing that bothered me, the boast about that
story that I just can't let go of, is like,

(06:02):
if you're in defeat, okay, but someone's been walking around
a hotel room, yeah, and that crosses a line for me. Yes, absolutely,
you should. To suck on the toes of someone in
a hotel room seems vile to me, Yeah, beyond the pale.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
And I don't even know that person hadn't been walking
around in flip flops, like around the city, you know,
sight seeing getting a hot dog who knows.

Speaker 2 (06:29):
Yes, sucking on the toes of a stranger also bears
some risk of disgust. But but the.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
Hotel, hotel target. Yeah, yeah, I love how we've been chomped.
I've been chomping at the bit to record because we
have all these pertinent stories that have been passing us by,
and we're still talking about hotels and toes.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
Like you, this is a toe sucking podcast?

Speaker 1 (06:53):
Yes, uh sure, yep, why not? We got everything else.
Speaking of toe sucking, I did just read Lola Faust's
new book. Oh right, what's it called, Fifty Shades of Gorgostor?

Speaker 2 (07:05):
That's right?

Speaker 1 (07:06):
Yes, Okay, Now we all know. When I read the
first book, I was just like, really, what So I obviously,
after talking to Lola and meeting her and kind of
getting it, I had going into this one. It was
a completely different experience and it's so funny, it's so
ridiculous and the ending. To me, the only thing that

(07:29):
was disappointing about it was it ended really there was
a built, it built, it built, and then it ended
just so fast. But that also kind of cracked me up.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
So I think I think Lola talked about this, but
I can't remember if it was in the episode or
before we started officially recording or not. But this new
book is more of like one continuous story. Is that correct?

Speaker 1 (07:52):
Yeah, yeah, it is.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
Yeah. So it's like a very much novel, more than
the one we read Trish Air Tops and Bottoms that
just like a bunch of short stories.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
Well this, yeah, this one is a novella for sure.
It's very short. You could read it in a day
or two. I mean not it wouldn't take you two
days reading two days straight, but you know, pick it
up and read it a little bit here, a little
bit there. I think it's like ten twelve chapters or
something like that. It's it's wrong with that digestible, I

(08:23):
highly recommend. I don't think there's any toast sucking in it,
though I don't remember. I think there's literally everything else though, Yeah,
it's I mean, it's a play on fifty shades of gray, right, lady,
it comes as an assistant to a guy who is
shockingly a dinosaur. And I won't I won't explain how

(08:44):
that goes. You just have to read the book. But
it's it's pretty funny.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
Well right now, I'm just picturing a woman walks into
a room and like it's maybe like the the Burt
Reynolds or like Seinfeld pose of like you know, switch
out on the bed. Uh, just like but you can't
talk because he's a dinosaur, so he's kind of like
gurgles ad her.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
Are you're probably it's as if you've read the book. No,
it's it's it's a good one. Guys. If Dino, if
dino erotica is your jam, you know what you could
do so much worse?

Speaker 2 (09:27):
Well, I I will have to grab that sometime in
the near future. We do have a book club to
address first, which is Thine.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
Yes we start. I haven't yet, but that's gonna be
my next project.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
All right, Yep, we're going to have to and then
maybe we should announce a date. But I got a
I got a book Aaron Randolph. So Thane by Aaron Randolph.
We've talked about on the show a few times. That's
our next book club. If you want to read along,
please please get it. Send in your questions kud it started. Yeah,
it's you can get the audiobooks, right, you can get

(10:00):
the audiobook. You can get the regular book on the site.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
You can there's is there a there's a kindle version?
I'm sure.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
Yeah, yeah. I had been holding out for the audio book,
and that was the kickstarter where we initially interviewed Aaron
Randolph exactly, so that that was a good time. Yes,
it was a good time. So we're going to have
him on the show.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
Address your email questions to Aaron to.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
Book Daddy, book Daddy.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
Oh yes, you know. Okay, can we talk about that?

Speaker 2 (10:33):
I think so. But first if you you had a
good idea there and we didn't. If you have questions
for Aaron Randolph, author of Fane, send them to Suggested
Articles Podcast at gmail dot com.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
A gmail address. Oh, sorry, an email.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
Do you want to talk about what what else is coming?
Because it is coming, I just don't know when.

Speaker 1 (10:59):
So I don't want to talk about that. But I
don't want to chink it, you know.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
No, Oh no, I think we're talking about different things. Okay,
so I was talking about we recorded something. Yeah, we
recorded we recorded something with some other people. This all
started with Aaron. It's Aaron's fault, no way. Aaron Scabbaretti
are yea yeah, our friend and our often co host. Yes,

(11:25):
we recorded something with her her other podcast on the Lanai,
which is a Golden Girls rewatch podcast kind of. There's
a lot of extra stuff in there that makes it
even if you're not really into Golden Girls, there's plenty.

Speaker 1 (11:38):
Of why wouldn't you be?

Speaker 2 (11:39):
Though?

Speaker 1 (11:39):
It's a fantastic that's a good point.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
Shame I you, shame on you. And then the the
b F Y t W, which is Aaron Randolph's podcast,
because Aaron and Aaron also used to do a podcast
together maybe someday again. So they're all friends and Aaron
brought us all together to record something. And what that
is I still can't even say for sure, but it's

(12:04):
going to have to be released in video form. I
think we wound up playing a bunch of Jackbox games,
if you're not familiar with those are party games where
you get prompts to answer, try to make something funny
out of it. People vote on who has the best answer.
So I did talk to one of the guys, Stevie, recently,
and he is working on the edit of that. But

(12:26):
it will be a video thing. It's not going to
be released in audio format because what's the point. Most
of it's going to be visual.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
Yeah, there's a lot of visual stuff. It would never
worked for an audio podcast, but that is coming out soon.
It was a really good time. Yes, yep, yeah, Okay,
I imagine that might be a nightmare to edit because
how many of us were on that call.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
I'm gonna say everybody's ten. I think it was ten.
I think it was ten.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
People who plus somebody in the room with Stevie who
didn't really have a mic.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
Yeah, that was Augie. He did not really have a
let the phone, but he still played some of the games.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
Yeah, he's very nice.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
He's a good guy.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
Everybody was good great on that. It's a good time.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
Well, should we talk about some tech shit?

Speaker 1 (13:14):
Yeah? I was wondering, actually if you wanted to if
there was since it's been a long time. We had
a Christmas episode and before that we kind of had
two guests. Do you have any stories of you know,
technology spying on you or doing weird things that you
haven't gotten to like a billion, like a billion, but
you narrow it down to maybe one, one or two.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
I could narrow it down to a couple hundred. I mean,
there's been some pretty some pretty juicy stuff recently, and
let's start. I hate to do this, but but I
feel like in the interests of the algorithm, I have to. Okay,

(13:59):
but I also hate you and Aaron.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
I can't remember what I was googling, but I typed
in the words why was my.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
I love where this is going?

Speaker 2 (14:13):
And there's you know, it gives you those suggested searches, right,
So I typed in why was my And of the
three things that popped up on my suggested searches, one
of them was why was my eb T discontinued? Which
is kind of sad, but I don't have any answers
for that. And then the other two were why was
my poop green? And why and why was my poop black?

Speaker 1 (14:41):
So I hate all right, the interest in the interest
of of playing along, I'm gonna I'm gonna do why
is my on my phone? And see what happens? Why
is my poop green? Is number one?

Speaker 2 (14:54):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (14:55):
Why is my I twitching? Is number two? And why
is my phone on s It's number three?

Speaker 2 (15:02):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (15:02):
I also but to round out the top seven, why
is my poop black? Why is my pe cloudy? Why
is my hair falling out? I hope it's not. And
why is my period late?

Speaker 2 (15:13):
Why is your period late? Are you pregnant?

Speaker 1 (15:15):
I think I might be. I would explain how why
I've been so bloated lately. Oh my god, that was fun.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
That was fun. Here's a follow up from our episode
with with Neon Chaos.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
Shortly after that, I finally gave in and made an
account on Timu because I don't want to get some
interesting and or inexpensive gifts for people for the holidays,
and Timu started suggesting things you know, I searched for.
I was searching. I was mostly there to get knockoff

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legos because there are some amazing Lego sets out in
the world that are not official. Oh there. I got
one guy on my team at work a alien xenomorph
made out of Legos. Oh my god. Another one is
a dune sandworm with like little helicopters flying around him.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
Uh in Lego, why are you telling me this? It's
I don't need to fuck with Timu.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
But one of the things, I.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
Want that alien thing so bad. No, I don't, I don't.
I don't need crap. I don't need it.

Speaker 2 (16:20):
And it's cheap.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
Oh, don't say that.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
Lego SATs cost hundreds of dollars.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
Sometimes, how do you find the packaging they sent that
to you?

Speaker 2 (16:30):
Well, Shi Hallu, the Sandworm he came in an actual
box that looked good and professional. The Zomorph came in
a plastic bag with an instruction packet.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
Yeah, we we we we We get so much of
that stuff, and I mean, like an insane amount of
stuff from Timu. And this the other one's shallow.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
Or something like that. I don't know what the other
one's TikTok shop. I thought I thought Carrie was into
TikTok shop.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
Well, yeah, I don't see, I don't.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
Does that not have goes?

Speaker 1 (17:01):
They might, they might, but but it's just packaged so poorly,
and it's just just makes me sad. I'm like, you're
getting what you pay for most of this. So if
you're getting stuffed through the mail that's like beat up
from Timu, just know that it's their fault, not we try.
We try so hard.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
At the post office I wasn't gonna blame you for anything,
but I wasn't. Yeah you were, Oh my gosh, no,
but I wasn't gonna say shortly into my stint on Timu.
It wasn't there immediately, but it was there pretty fucking quickly.
It did suggest to me a couple of times, a
couple of different sizes of fully articulated alien face huggers

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that I could buy on t Wow, it didn't take one.
You didn't know anything about me? Really? Fuck that ship? Yeah, well,
I found the alien zeno morph I bought after that.
I should I should say in the in the interest
of disclosure there, but fuck, I mean, that's just right there.
From that's really why I saw aliens. You know, more
for you. Probably a couple other interesting things. My daughter

(18:07):
was recently asking me what her blood type is because
she thought she should know, and I don't know what
her blood type is, and she said, well, what if
I need blood someday? And I said, you could have
my blood because I'm O negative. She said, well what
if you're not around. Oh, But then like later that night,
I got to suggest an article of scientists identify new
blood group after fifty year mystery so thank you for

(18:29):
that algorithm. And then the best one, the best one
that I have recently is this. Had a weird conversation
the other night here at the house. Jennifer was making
some pasta and there was talk about what kind of
pasta and then were we going to have garlic bread
with it? And then we didn't, and I said, well,

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who needs garlic bread when you're already having pasta, right,
I mean, it's not great for you. It's carbs and
carbs and carbs. And it led us to a discussion of, well,
what if there was a sandwich with spaghetti on it,
but so it was a garlic bread sandwich and then
you put spaghetti and mari and aro sauce into the
sandwich And I said, I would eat the fuck out
of that. Yeah, And I can put this little snapshot

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of is this even? This isn't even TikTok? This must
have been Instagram reels. Yeah, it's Instagram reels. The next
day I get fucking an Instagram reel where someone some
restaurant in Las Vegas is making a sandwich out of
a loaf of bread that they're stuffing spaghetti noodles into.

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Oh my god, it looks messy. It looks really messy. Yeah,
I would have a problem with it. But I would
not be able to eat that in public. I would
have to you know, I would need it. If I
ate it at a restaurant, I would need a shame
curtain for sure. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
Or just take it home to my hotel room and
then you're walking through the motel and everybody knows you're
gonna go and eat that sandwich. They can see it,
they know what it is.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
Too many restaurants have a shame curtain.

Speaker 1 (20:04):
No, I've been a couple of sushi places over the
years that have that have like some of the booths
have like a little curtain so you can pretend you're
the only person there, which is nice for sushi because
you just jamming shit in your mouth. Sometimes it ain't pretty,
but everybody else is doing it.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
How about you any algorithmic wonders you you have been
keep keeping notes on?

Speaker 1 (20:26):
Yeah, Spotify strikes again. Everybody's familiar with with the whole
smashing pumpkins tobacco. But of course I recently added in
on one of my playlists. And why do I use Spotify?
I don't know. I think it's because my kid pays
for it, so it's like it's a nice thing they
do for me, I guess. But all right, anyway, Yeah,

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so I added some rim into one of my playlists. Okay, okay,
and not not not not like they're big obvious hits,
just some of their other stuff that some of you know,
just some of their older stuff. And and then immediately, immediately,
like later that day, I started getting tiktoks from Man

(21:16):
on the Moon, the Jim Carrey movie, and over the
next month, I probably, I'm pretty sure I saw the
entire movie twice on TikTok.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
Yeah. Had you seen that movie before?

Speaker 1 (21:29):
Oh? Yeah, yeah, I saw it in theaters. Yeah I haven't.
I haven't seen before they came out. Yeah yeah, yeah, sure.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
Well, the algorithm is eternal, but you know what I mean,
long before it was right a factor in our right,
I mean, al Gore was working on it at the time,
I'm sure, but he personally programmed the original original algorithm.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
Yes, we only have him to blame and no one else.
Of course, it was a democrat at.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
Of course. So that's your big one.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
Yeah, that's a big one. I mean all the other
ones are kind of mundane, just little things that you
that we've.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
Come to expect.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
Okay, but that was that was the one that struck
me the weirdest, just because it's like, not you, I
didn't I didn't use that song. It was just but
that day just boom, and then it's like, you need
to see this whole fucking movie.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
And I can't help but bunder because I do still
feel like when I listen back to this show in
my car is when I get more connections compared to
like when we're talking about stuff and recording it even
though my phone's nearby, I feel like I don't get
as many like hits and matches off algorithm stuff afterwards. Interesting,
but I do wonder like, is it is it are

(22:47):
they pulling the information from Spotify directly or is it
that that music played near you and the algorithm picked
it up through your phone's microphone. Yeah, we'll never know.
We'll never know.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
We'll we'll never know.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
But okay, all right, Well, if that's your big one, great,
how about some tech news? What's going on in the
tech world? Tech news?

Speaker 1 (23:11):
Well, Jeff, where do we even where do we even
want to start? We talked about dead internet theory. We
started talking about it months ago on this podcast, and
now it's now it's coming chillingly true with Meta introducing
AI personalities.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
On their feats. This is embarrassing. I don't get why.
Why is this good?

Speaker 1 (23:38):
It's not good, it's I don't know what the argument is.
They they're saying that it's to teach and to gather
information and whatever, which obviously it is, but what is it?

Speaker 2 (23:50):
Tell us what it is? What's happened?

Speaker 1 (23:51):
Okay, So basically you have bake profiles and they their
first profile is a character who is a a black woman,
an older, elderly black woman, so you know, like Grandma, Grandma, Grandmaly,
and she's going to tell us what to like. She's
going to influence our feeds and she'll just have conversations

(24:13):
opposite the opposite of what. No, not just conversations. She's
going to post pictures and she's going to react with things,
and she's going to help move the needle on things,
because that's what this is really for, just just keeping
its keeping people gain keep it well, not just keep
but but but I think it's to move the needle
on on public opinion to to monopoly they have, they

(24:36):
have a monopoly on the message now and they can
just nudge everything whatever way they want because they're super evil.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
I I'm still I guess. I yes, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
I know it's actually what it is.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
I don't. They are at least disclosing what's an AI,
which is good, it'll say, like, but like, it's so
creepy because the person gets in the AI, it's not
a person. The AI bot gets a name and a
profile picture. Of course it's AI generated, right. I saw

(25:15):
one where like you didn't see much of what was
I think it was an Instagram profile and there wasn't
much to see, but like, here's a picture. It was like,
here's a picture of my grandkid, right like, which is
also AI very created, very creepy. It's very creepy. And
is this just Mark Zuckerberg being so out of touch

(25:36):
that he thinks people will want to engage with AI bots.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
It doesn't matter because people already do with the dead,
with the bots that have been posting on Facebook, they
engage like crazy. What you what to do is put
up a creepy finger of Jesus, like shrimp Jesus, shrimp
Jesus or twenty five fingered Jesus and people.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
If us shrimp, I'd be.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
In yes, he'd convert me. Yeah, yeah, uh no, nothing
good is coming from this, Jeff I. We can't even pretend.
Is Mark Zuckerberg out of touch with the common man?
Absolutely yes, But that that's that's another question, you know.
But we have the there's the okay, so there's I'm

(26:25):
kind of introducing this new concept. There's the algorithm, right,
and then there's the message, which sometimes is the algorithm.
Sometimes it's it's just using the algorithm to get out there.
But we have a handful of people, a handful of
billionaires who basically own all of the all of the
media outlets, right, who are basically there, and they get

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to put out whatever they want, excuse me, And and
that's the message now, and and this is one more
way to participate in messaging because.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
You know why why why why?

Speaker 1 (27:00):
Well, okay, this to me is completely insidious. They're they're
they're taking, they're getting rid of TikTok because oh, by
the way, TikTok countdown r I P two weeks.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
Unless we have a savior m you know, Trump is
looking into it, he says, but we're.

Speaker 1 (27:19):
Taking, we're taking. Yeah, Now it's it's like, this is
the first step in the war, the machine war. This
is it, Jeff, I'm telling him.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
But here's the thing, so we know, we know the
bots are out there. If you find a picture of shrimp, jeesus,
you're right, you'll see like over and over again, the
same kinds of like really weird responses from the fake people,
from these scripted accounts. And we also call it scripting.
We didn't used to call it AI or whatever. But
I still I'm still having a hard time understanding the

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point of because now they're making them official AI bots,
but they're basically just admitting that it's not a real
platform anymore. And that feels like it takes the value
out of it.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
Okay, here's here's my cynical take. Again, there's going to
be ones that they tell you or AI and then
the next wave is going to be just whatever they want.
They're not gonna tell us it's fair, but not going
to be accepting friend requests on Facebook from people with
AI fucking profile pictures that I do rate, right, But

(28:24):
also I mean, look, they're not Look. AI is expensive
and to run and everything, it takes a lot of resources,
and they're not going to do this unless there's some
way they're making money hand over fist. So that's that's
where it is. There is some other way to profit
off of us. Well, Facebook makes money hand over fist,
but you have to keep it. There's always finding, right,

(28:46):
but you do. But you have this it's like you you,
this is the second time that you've mentioned something like this,
like like there's a level of money that these guys
are like, oh, we're making They're no, there isn't a
level of money. They're always going to want more money,
more money, any more power in any any way they
can squeeze another dime out of us.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
Of course, what's going through my head right now is
this horrible vision where like I feel like in another
year or so, there's going to be some like quote
unquote scandal and probably some lawsuits, class action lawsuits emerging
from it, where like people that advertise products on Facebook

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sue because the ais are interacting with their ads and
they're getting charged money for that.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
No, I bet that's why. Not Right right now, Mark
Zuckerberg is like, shit, chef's on to us. I'm sure
it happens now, I'm sure anyone has. But it's also
it's it's also going to affect. You could affect. You
could use it to affect, like potentially web searches and

(29:58):
things like that, make some thing getting a lot of engagements.
You can get a lot of engagement on something and
that's going to push it up on the algorithm. Right,
So that's that's they're going to be pushing engagement on
maybe subtle subtle propaganda, maybe not so subtle propaganda, new
products and things like that.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
You know Twitter is doing that already even without well
ai bots. But it turns out that sometimes you can
just boost your own content with an alternative, an alternate account.

Speaker 1 (30:32):
Yes, here we go, fucking Ditman.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
Dittman, right, Alexander Dittman, I think someone.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
What a sad pathetic asshole. Doesn't it make you feel
good that you may never have the money that Elon
Musk does, but you are not a sad pathetic asshole.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
So if you're not on Twitter, Elon Musk has been
caught recently using his second secondary account, whose name is
Alexander Dittman, to boost his own posts, and in some
cases there was one really upsetting one where Alexander Ditman
retweeted something that Elon Musk said, and was like and also,

(31:11):
you're like a really good dad.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
Yeah, it was so sad. It was so sad. And
he's like Elon Musk is a really good dad. It
was so no, so sad. You know what, that makes
me happy because that means he's dead inside.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (31:28):
Look, look, as somebody who has failed miserably in life
at self promotion on the internet, I it never ever
occurred to me to have a fake account and be like,
this guy's music is great.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
You know.

Speaker 1 (31:43):
Incidentally, if you don't want us, if you don't want
us to turn out like this genius, if you don't
want us to turn out like that where we're just
making like, uh, you know, fake accounts to promote our
own stuff. Tell a friend if you like this show. Yeah,
please tell a friend. Please tell friends with money and

(32:03):
want to want to get on board the Patreon thousand
dollars level to get Jeff's brainwave analyzer. We just need
one person with a thousand bucks to throw away.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
We're not in this for the money. We're not. We're
not We're not in it for the money. But yes,
tell a friend if you like our show, share it
around a little bit. Okay, how about Apple. Speaking of
big tech companies, what's Apple been up to?

Speaker 1 (32:30):
Well, it's been revealed that for the last decade they
have been using Siri too, Oh what is it? Spy
on their users. They got fined ninety five million dollars,
which is bullshit amount of money. It's like nothing to them.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
Yeah, I saw I saw someone do an analysis on yours,
some of some fine someone did a financial analysis on
that based on Apple's net worth. And for the average
joe like you were me, it would be like if
a court made us pay someone order that we found
in our couch.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
Exactly exactly. It's ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
A ninety five million dollar class action lawsuit. We can
all apply for our share of it and get maybe
twenty bucks.

Speaker 1 (33:09):
Yeah, not me. I'm not an Apple user because fuck
those guys. I have my own evil overlords that I
have given myself to. But yeah, that's Apple for you.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
I think the big question is, now that they've been caught,
will they stop using serious No, No, I've got another one.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
Especially especially if this is all they have to do
is pay basically a quarter for how much money have
they made off all this? And so they're they're taking
down TikTok again because China is stealing our information, but
Apple's been stealing your information. They just get fined ninety
five million dollars. Why why don't we find China or
TikTok whatever you want, because China's the big bad or we.

Speaker 2 (33:52):
Could just shut down Apple and make them cease to
exist as a company.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
I would love that. I would feel bad for all
the Apple users who are never going to get their
next wall of iPhone.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
But yeah, there's plenty of other phones out there.

Speaker 1 (34:05):
Get a pixel.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
That's not the only base in Apple news.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
No, No, there's more.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
There's other Apple news. Okay. Apple has been hit with
a lawsuit from one of its own employees. And this
it's like a really long article. I took like the
eight eight like fucking screenshots of it. But I'll try
to summarize this, and I can. I can always cut
stuff out. But here's the first little bit. An Apple
employee sued the company, alleging it improperly requires access to

(34:34):
personal data that employees store on the tech behemoths iCloud Wow.
The lawsuit, filed by Amar Bacta, who has worked in
advertising technology for Apple since twenty twenty, also alleges the
company's policies illegally restrict discussions about wages and working conditions
among workers. Now that is illegal. If a company tells
you you're not allowed to talk about your salary with other.

Speaker 1 (34:55):
Employees, that's against the yeah, yeah labor los.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
Apple provides employees with iPhones and other equipment, but it
is common for employees to use their own devices or
to link company issued products to their personal iCloud accounts.
According to the lawsuit, when they do so, the lawsuit
alleges Apple demands as part of its terms of employment
that employees allow the company to install software that makes
it possible to search a device or iCloud account.

Speaker 1 (35:22):
Yep, that's disturbing.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
In addition, the company actively discourages the use of work
only iCloud accounts, The lawsuit said, Now, I run into
that at work all the time. We give some of
our employees iPhones. Specifically I lost the fight for Android,
but we give them iPhones and then they can decide.

(35:45):
I never would push anyone in either direction. You could
make it sort of easier on yourself by just having
everything on one device, or you could do a work
only iCloud account using your work email address, use that
to set up your work phone, and that's all that
the work phone is for. Yeah, some people, not most
people just take the easy way out. But some people

(36:07):
prefer to keep things separate. And I don't see anything
wrong with that. But funny enough, Apple does, of course
they do. Yeah. Also, according to the lawsuit, Apple forbade
Bacta from speaking publicly about his work in digital advertising
and required him to remove information about his work from
his LinkedIn profile.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
Yeah, yeah, a little bit. Where's what concerns me about
this guy? This is he's basically he's basically blowing the
whistle on this, which means he's going to be dead side.
We live in it. We live in a society where
we've just decided whistle blowers can die and we just
basically all ruled over for it. Boeing had two that

(36:48):
died and they're still they're still just doing great. There
was the guy, the AI whistled blower. Recently.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
Yep, he also committed suicide just within the last week.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
I think, and I mean I don't want to sound paranoid,
but it no, no, just can't.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
No, There's got to be a breaking point right where
only so many whistleblowers can commit suicide before somebody starts
asking how many?

Speaker 1 (37:14):
How many is it going to be?

Speaker 2 (37:15):
Though?

Speaker 1 (37:15):
How many?

Speaker 2 (37:17):
I don't know. I can't believe. I said that with
almost a straight face, because obviously these companies don't care.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
No, they don't care, and they can get away with
whatever they want.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
Yeah, the last little bit here in October. In October,
Apple was accused by the National Labor Relations Board of
trying to prevent employees from discussing pay equity by enforcing
broad rules that prohibited workers from discussing financial incentives that
the company uses to reach sales goals, by asserting that
the topic included quote, confidential and proprietary information, which is bullshit.

(37:46):
It's fucking commissions and stuff, right, that's right, right, yep?
So Apple, super evil, super evil?

Speaker 1 (37:58):
What else? What else? What else is there? That's the question? Well,
it kind of counts as tech news. We had a
guy rolled up in front of the Trump Hotel Trump
Casino in Vegas on his cyber truck.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
Oh sure, yep, yep.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
That was so interesting one that that is a shady
story as well. Well.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
My understanding is that he shot himself before the bomb
went off, so he was in the driver's seat of
the car dead and it was a little bomb. It
wasn't a big bomb, no, and it was mostly fireworks, right,
but it did explode in front of the Trump Hotel.
Right now, Apparently that guy was a big Trump supporter,
but he had just lost his mind or maybe not.

Speaker 1 (38:40):
Actually, there's interesting things going on. They inside that fiery wreck,
they found his passport. Well that didn't burn up. Assport
didn't burn up. His phone got a little charred, but
they were still able to get some manifestos off it,
which is interesting because they are different from the manifesto

(39:04):
that uh, there's some podcast that some guy.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
Came out he's like a military had his supposed manifesto.

Speaker 1 (39:13):
But it was a very different kind of message. And
like if you look at the picture, the picture is
all wrong. There's like a cursor in the message, which
is not how emails work, you know it h and
it's just having a just having a screenshot or a picture,
I mean, ignore the ignore the fact that there's a

(39:33):
cursor in it. That can be Emails could be faked
so easily. But the messaging was so different from uh,
you know, it was trying to tie things to the drones.

Speaker 2 (39:45):
Right, Well, I was wondering about that because they did
have the drones on my agenda for today.

Speaker 1 (39:51):
There's another one, the drones. What the fuck with that?
There's no time we've already forgotten about the drones. They're
still there.

Speaker 2 (39:59):
Well, this guy had said he was privy to a
lot of top secret information, and I guess he did
have clearances. But we don't know what sure we do.
But the manifesto that I saw said stuff about like
America and China have this extra like next level tech
war going on with stuff that we couldn't even imagine.
And gravitons were mentioned. I think that would be like

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you know, drone kind of stuff, like you know, propulsion systems. Maybe. Yeah.
But also he thought he was being watched and so
he decided to take himself out in a blaze of
glory rather than let the government bring him down.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
Yeah, now here's something he shot himself? Is there? Is
there there's a video of the bomb going off? Right?
I know this sounds grimed, but is there a video
of him striving up shooting himself? Because I've heard.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
I have care was close enough for that. Plus it's
a cyber truck. It probably had tinted windows.

Speaker 1 (41:00):
Well you could see the fire inside.

Speaker 2 (41:01):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (41:02):
I've heard people speculate that he might have been dead already.
His eyes could have been open and it's dead and
the cyber truck just drove there. Perhaps, Now this is
this is very deep conspiracy.

Speaker 2 (41:13):
I had heard that.

Speaker 1 (41:15):
Yeah, I think I sent you this TikTok this morning,
so we all take a knee.

Speaker 2 (41:19):
If you want to watch it. But I haven't seen
it yet.

Speaker 1 (41:21):
But we also know that the that Tesla just unlocked
the car for the cops, and there was video from
inside the car that they provided immediately.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
And Elon was right on top of that ship, so
it was right on top of that ship, first of all.
And I did find this funny because Tesla's just start
to feel more and more like death traps and no
offense to my friend Eric, who drives to Tesla and
loves it to pieces. Does he listen to this show, Yes,
he's rid. Yeah, all right, Eric, Eric, good old Eric.

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But I guess the bomb went off and from the
the shaking of that, the bomb like the car locked itself,
which just seems really bad because if you get into
an accident, do you want to be able to get
out of your vehicle, like it shouldn't be locking you
into the vehicle. And we talked about how if the

(42:17):
battery catch some fire burns at the temperature of the
surface of the sun, right, right, So there was that.
No it's not, but I guess the car did not
burn up completely because its computer systems were still online,
right exactly. Elon himself supposedly or at least gave the
orders unlocked the car and gave them video footage. Yep.

Speaker 1 (42:39):
Yeah, so know that. Also know that you're being watched
every time you charge your car, You're being watched. That
information is being collected.

Speaker 2 (42:48):
That's right. He gave them video from nearby supercharger stations.

Speaker 1 (42:52):
From inside the car and the unlocking. That's that's just Nope, nope, no,
I don't like that. Why because now we're going to
be having smart houses that do all this stuff too.
They're going to lock you in your house. Oh I
do know that they're gonna spin on you in your house. Yeah,
I'm telling you, the machine war is on my friends.

Speaker 2 (43:11):
Revolution good stuff.

Speaker 1 (43:13):
We've already lost. I think we've already lost. That's what
I'm saying. If you have a toaster that you have
an app for you are part of the problem.

Speaker 2 (43:27):
So I I thought so that that this guy I
don't even know his name right now, but I don't care,
the guy killing himself in front of Trump Tower or
Trump Hotel. That seems to be our first juicy conspiracy
theory of twenty twenty five. But I thought this for
this first episode, we could take a look back at
the conspiracy theories of twenty twenty four. Okay, hey, I'll

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see what you remember.

Speaker 1 (43:52):
Before before we dive into that. Sure, can we talk
about Luigi or well.

Speaker 2 (43:57):
He's yo story saving the best for last? Okay, okay,
twenty twenty four conspiracies. I found some list of like
here's you know, all the biggest, bestest conspiracy theories from
twenty twenty four, and I jotted them down, and let's
see what you remember. I didn't know a couple of

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these were even conspiracy theories in the first place, but
here we go. First of all, the assassination attempt or
attempts on Donald J. Trump. Yeah, yeah, that led to
a lot of conspiracy theorization, right, Like there's this high
school kid and there was all sorts of stuff.

Speaker 1 (44:35):
About silverware or something I don't.

Speaker 2 (44:37):
Know, being brainwashed by the government, and he was like
a sleeper cell or something. There was a lot of stuff.

Speaker 1 (44:44):
The cops, the cops that happened. The secrets are something
weird shit.

Speaker 2 (44:49):
Yeah, yeah, I mean I still kind of feel like
that the cops seem to have kind of maybe let
it happen. I don't know, it's it's really it's really weird.
In the aftermath, I believe a number of police officers
were fired, but historically speaking, when a cop gets fired
for wrongdoing, they tend to get hired again a couple
of weeks later, you know, same with the Secret Service.

(45:13):
I don't think the FBI finished officially finished its investigation.
But here's the thing we do know, Like there was
all this you know, the Democrats were putting him up
to his assassination and they're trying to do violence and
all this stuff. But it turns out this kid was
just just wanted to shoot someone. Yeah, like all the
computer evidence pointed to him, like keeping tabs on Trump

(45:36):
and Biden and some other major government officials, because he
just wanted to get a chance to take someone out. Yeah. So,
like all the conspiracy stuff behind that didn't really go anywhere.

Speaker 1 (45:50):
No.

Speaker 2 (45:50):
But of course when a story breaks and then later
on when a story is corrected, those are two very
different things in terms of how that information gets disseminated
and absorbed by the by the population. Let's see the
secret I was just looking at the Wikipedia the Secret
Service and face intense scrutiny. Boy, there's just paragraph after
paragraph here. But what I'm not seeing, well, what I'm

(46:13):
not seeing is that, like the Secret Service doesn't seem
to have like been gutted, which it probably should have been,
because it seemed like they sort of let him get
shot and then like let him get back up again. Yeah,
there's no way Donald Trump at his age is strong
enough to push his way through a bunch of Secret
Service agents that are trying desperately to keep him alive.

Speaker 1 (46:34):
Well, if you look at a lot of the AI
pictures and photoshops, he's basically got a rambo body. I
don't understand why people fetishize anyone to that extent, Like
it's so weird.

Speaker 2 (46:47):
It is weird, so weird, But actually because most of
those guys are super anti LGBT, but they're like I
want to see Trump oiled up and muscular, yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:55):
Yeah, take that shirt up. Let's paint him on a flag.

Speaker 2 (46:59):
Okay, that was one of the big ones. How about
the solar eclipse? Did you know that there were conspiracy
theories there? Oh?

Speaker 1 (47:04):
I think we discussed this a little bit.

Speaker 2 (47:06):
I mean people seem to think the end of the
world is going to end.

Speaker 1 (47:09):
Yeah, we did talk about that. We talked about that
with Aaron of.

Speaker 2 (47:14):
And he was in there by the critical path.

Speaker 1 (47:17):
Yeah, that's right in Buffalo.

Speaker 2 (47:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:20):
I guess I.

Speaker 2 (47:20):
Wasn't really getting end of the world content myself at
that time, because looking back, I'm like, really, people thought
that this was the one. I mean, we get eclipses
all the time, but this was the eclipse that was
going to take us all up. Okay, how about Marjorie
Taylor Green I hate saying her name, says the federal

(47:41):
government is controlling the weather and making hurricanes happen in Florida.
They can, you know, because it's political.

Speaker 1 (47:50):
Yeah, political can control the weather. Okay, whatever.

Speaker 2 (47:54):
I think the Jewish space lasers might have been before
twenty twenty four, so they were, But yeah, she's still
on this ship as like the worst hurricanes efter we're
hitting Florida, like one after another after another. She said
it was Biden's fault. He's doing right on purpose.

Speaker 1 (48:10):
It's it's kind of reminds me of people who said
that hurricanes were gay people's fault. And if that was
a thing, we wouldn't have a don't ask, don't tell
in the military. We would have an all gay brigade
just going to other places and causing hurricanes. Just how
how much less expensive would that be to just yeah,
you know, he could do a chorus line and then boom,

(48:32):
you know, you could call it the.

Speaker 2 (48:34):
Hurricane Brenede Brigade. Well, that was hard to say.

Speaker 1 (48:39):
Yeah, that was that was very That was rough. That Sorry,
I think there's a community. I think it's Matt Bronger
does a does a bit about that, but yeah.

Speaker 2 (48:49):
It's gay gays and hurricanes.

Speaker 1 (48:52):
About using using gays in the military too. Uh, if
if that was really what it was, sure, Yeah, but.

Speaker 2 (48:59):
Let's see, I had the New Jersey drones, of course,
that was one of the biggest.

Speaker 1 (49:04):
Things, and it feels like we've just forgotten it.

Speaker 2 (49:07):
Well, what did you mean of it though, because it
did seem like there were some things kind of hovering
in the air, probably drones. We never got an answer
on what they were, but then people were launching their
own drones to check out the drones, and next thing
you know, there's like a billion drones in the sky
and Prittle in New Jersey are freaking out right.

Speaker 1 (49:26):
I don't know, I'm cynical and paranoid at this point
enough to a cynical enough to think that that was
some sort of thing. It's it's one of those things
where they're just like, let's see how far we can
push the sheep.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
The one thing that I could kind of subscribe to,
maybe because of things like Luigi Manngioni, which we'll get
back to, is like maybe some of this news coverage,
maybe maybe some of the drones themselves were all part
of like a distraction. Yeah, Like it seems like like

(49:56):
the last time the government was talking about like, yes,
there really are space aliens, it just happened to be
also when like a genocide, you know, was happening or something,
and right, there does might need to be some kind
of pattern there, yes, which is hard to deny because
why are you trying to convince us that space aliens
are real when we should be talking about you know,
potentially millions of people being killed.

Speaker 1 (50:16):
And why does it matter if they're from the ocean.
That's just such a weird like it's such a weird
thing that people glombed onto. Of course the ocean is
mostly unexplored, and you know, it doesn't matter unless the aliens.
You know, it's like it's kind of a tired meme
at this point. But if I still have to go
into work tomorrow, then why does it matter if they're

(50:38):
a space aliens? You know, if we're going to join
the Galactic Federation or something that might help, I wonder
how they're dental is you know, do we get does
that mean we get health care for everybody?

Speaker 2 (50:49):
If we join the Galactic Federation and they don't have
literal universal health care, I will be extremely disappointed. Yeah, yeah,
because how did you get this far?

Speaker 1 (51:00):
Yeah? How did we get this?

Speaker 2 (51:01):
You can't get through deep space and travel through multiple
galaxies on capitalism, it's just not going to happen.

Speaker 1 (51:08):
M Maybe capital Well, I guess we'll never know.

Speaker 2 (51:11):
We probably will.

Speaker 1 (51:13):
Untill we get the alien DLC on the on the
on the the matrix to thank you the matrix. I'm
really spacey today. What we have is in a while,
no pizza. Yeah, I'm just pizza right now. I really
want some pizza from it.

Speaker 2 (51:27):
I actually mean pizza.

Speaker 1 (51:29):
No, I mean real pizza too. I kind of want
one of those mac and cheese pizzas. I and you
made that one time.

Speaker 2 (51:34):
If you can visit, I will make you one. That's
my offer to you. You can visit me. I will
make you homemade mag and I.

Speaker 1 (51:41):
Will see you. If I get in my car right now,
I'll have enough time, but I don't get stuck in Beaver.
I could be there by tonight, by dinnertime late, but.

Speaker 2 (51:51):
When I get stuck in Beaver, Okay, how about the
Northern Lights? Now, I know this has been an emotionally
difficult topic for you because a lot of people have
seen the Northern Lights in North America recently and you
are not one of them.

Speaker 1 (52:05):
Yeah, exactly, but apparently all for working nights.

Speaker 2 (52:08):
I get it. I get it.

Speaker 1 (52:09):
People, I don't think they're real.

Speaker 2 (52:12):
Well, there's been conspiracy talk about how prevalent they've been
and how it's obviously fake, like the governments generating these
again as some kind of distraction.

Speaker 1 (52:24):
No, I like the idea here. I want to pose
my own conspiracy theory that our sun is about to die.
Why would they tell us there's nothing we could do
about it, and it's just going to envelop us and
it'll be all We'll all be fried crispy shrimp in moments.
What a good what a great, wonderful way to go.

Speaker 2 (52:41):
And it's some of those shrimps.

Speaker 1 (52:43):
And it wouldn't even probably wouldn't even be the biggest
story of the year.

Speaker 2 (52:48):
Uh Okay, do you do you think the sun dying
could be a sign of extra northern lights activities?

Speaker 1 (52:55):
Yeah? You know, why not? That's why that's why we're
having all the solar storms. It's putting out like like
they've been coming like crazy, just almost back to back.
In some cases, I don't remember a time, and honestly,
maybe it's just I'm not aware. We are not aware.
It hasn't been a thing that maybe it wasn't covered
or people weren't talking about. I mean, I don't know, man.

(53:20):
I remember one time that there were some really bad
wildfires here years ago, this might be in the nineties,
and it caused and I can't remember if it caused
something similar to kind of an Aurora boreals or if
it was we had there was a solar storm. So
there were some Aurora boreals and it caused some fire

(53:41):
trucks to they were trying to drive to a fire
and they were just following the auroras. Uh, and they
didn't get to the fire.

Speaker 2 (53:49):
That's weird.

Speaker 1 (53:49):
Yeah, I'm sorry, people, I don't want to be grim
talking about the end of the world and stuff. I
think that the sun crisping up would be so much
better than a meteor because you know, meteor is going
to only take out part of the world immediately, and
then the rest there's going to be like awful suffering
and it's going to suck.

Speaker 2 (54:07):
And based on other things you've said just within the
last few minutes, the world ending probably just means that
we're going to reboot the matrix and start over. And
that's fine. I'll still be around.

Speaker 1 (54:18):
And if I'm wrong, and you know, we all end
up in heaven, or you guys all end up in heaven,
I'll give it you here. If I wake up in
a cell in Hell being tortured for not being a believer,
I will I will raise my imaginary glass to all
you up and up in heaven. Just be like you
did it, kids, You did.

Speaker 2 (54:38):
It here's one of the weirder conspiracies from twenty twenty four.
I'm sorry, I just you're like, let's lighten the mood. Sorry, yeah,
let's lighten the mood with this one. Tunnels under Brooklyn?
Do you people Jewish?

Speaker 1 (54:55):
No? Jewish people? Oh, Jewish tone?

Speaker 2 (54:57):
There was like a acidic uh. I don't even know
if it was. I don't think it was a synagogue.
I want to say it was like a place where
they went to study, but maybe there was probably some
synagogue involvement. But they dug a tunnel underneath Brooklyn to
like go across the street between the main synagogue building

(55:19):
and like a a Jewish children's museum. Yes, it seems
extremely creepy. Yeah, and I don't you know, I'm not
one to want to feed like weird anti Semitic conspiracy theories,
but like Jews are not always saints, man, they do
shit wrong too, And like there's like there were mattresses

(55:40):
in the tunnel that looked weird and dirty and like
something very strange.

Speaker 1 (55:45):
Is going on tunnel.

Speaker 2 (55:47):
And when I looked up articles about this now, because
it's been like six seven eight months since this was discovered,
I can't find any conclusion. I can't find any, like
here's the real story of why they dug a tunnel.
So whatever it is, I'm sure it was just pure
weirdness or creepiness. But I also remember like like sewer
grades were opening up, and like Jewish guys in black

(56:11):
hats and outfits were like crawling out of the street.
Like there was weird shit happening that day.

Speaker 1 (56:16):
Sounds like Pat Robertson's nightmares come true. Shout out for
the pat Robertson reference.

Speaker 2 (56:23):
Well, he would blame the gaze for Jims crawling out
of the sewers. Damn man, that was That was great.
I mean, it certainly led to a lot of conspiracy theories.
And it's hard to deny that something creepy. When you
have a tunnel that's going towards the Children's Museum and
there's dirty mattresses in that tunnel. I don't know how

(56:46):
you can like defend it. And it doesn't even seem
like anyone did. It kind of feels like it just
went away because maybe they didn't find any direct evidence
of wrongdoing except for the part where they dug a
fucking tunnel underneath Brooklyn, which you know that that does
lead to some you know, some facilities work. They're trying
to fill that in. But it's so fucking weird. Yeah,

(57:09):
that is weird. So that was one of the weirder
parts of twenty twenty four. He did he speaking of
creepy sex stuff. He's going down. I don't even know that.
I mean, it's not even a conspiracy theory. It's just
a lot of bad shit happened in Pet's estates. The
real conspiracy theory or conspiracy is going to be, like,
how many other people get implicated in this?

Speaker 1 (57:30):
But then is it going to matter? Because we know,
we know who's on the Epstein flights and nothing's happened
to them, right, Uh, that's true. We know who was
on the Lolita Express. Yes, it's true. Yeah, so I
think I think maybe the drones were to get us
to forget about jay Z being involved or something. Sorry,

(57:53):
j Z, I didn't mean.

Speaker 2 (57:53):
That He's coming for you now, motherfucker.

Speaker 1 (57:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:58):
But yeah, like I bire, of course, all the biggest
names in entertainment could be tied to Ditty, ranging from
former and almost to be President Donald J. Trump, who
has called him a really good friend on camera. Yes,
I'm The Apprentice. He was saying this, and people in

(58:19):
the room were unsettled by how much he was praising Diddy,
Like it's all in the footage from The Apprentice. I
remember that happening because I used to watch that show.
Because I'm dumb.

Speaker 1 (58:29):
You are, I've said you're dumb.

Speaker 2 (58:31):
Today, there were some things, you know, Ashton Kutcher and
Melacunis were supposedly moving to Europe after Diddy got arrested,
but now they've denied that. But like Ashton Kutcher has
been at a lot of those parties, so who knows,
And he and Melacunas were already in the ship for
defending Danny Masterson. Right, Yeah, it's funny.

Speaker 1 (58:56):
What's his name? Uh, the main character like Eric I
don't remember, No, no, no, no, no, no, no, fucking the
main character from that seventies show, Oh To for Grace. Yeah,
he'd always kind of distanced himself from the other people.

Speaker 2 (59:14):
It's interesting now and and it kind of yeah, yeah,
it's interesting. Interesting. Maybe he's the one good one of
all of them.

Speaker 1 (59:21):
Yeah, maybe, But I don't want to say a good
one because every time something like like like my favorite
author has been Cormick McCarthy for years and it came
out he had a fucking teenage goddamn side piece, and
it's like, you fucking asshole man.

Speaker 2 (59:39):
My favorite author for a long time, and shout out
to my friend Josh for turning me on to him
back in high school is David Eddings. He wrote shot
of fantasy novels. Yeah, the Belgaria, the Malorian and more.
But like these great series of novels, they were very
like Tolkien esque, but they had their own stuff too,
and they were just great epic, epic fantasy fiction. And

(01:00:02):
last year I found out that like in the seventies
or eighties, like him and his wife got like caught
and convicted of keeping their kids in cages and like
serious abuse. Oh my god, Like before they wrote these
books even they were just monsters.

Speaker 1 (01:00:22):
It's just like, God, damn it, God damn.

Speaker 2 (01:00:27):
Right, he's gone down right, Like a lot of sexual
misconduct accusations have come out about him.

Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
Yeah, So it's just like, maybe maybe this is why
I can never break through, while I will never be
like popular or people care because I don't have that
in me. Popular with me, yes, thank you, yes, very popular.

Speaker 2 (01:00:49):
You'll very popular because you don't want to abuse me.

Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
I know, I know Jeffrey's secret wiki feet page.

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
So you've seen.

Speaker 1 (01:00:56):
If anybody, if anybody buys, if any buys, if anybody
buys the thousand dollars level, I will show you pictures
of Jeff's feet.

Speaker 2 (01:01:07):
Fucking hell man. For one thousand dollars. I'll give anyone
a picture of my feet if that's what they really want.

Speaker 1 (01:01:12):
But get we need to get that brain. We need
to get that brain analyzer.

Speaker 2 (01:01:16):
I saw someone on someone posted on Twitter recently that
they received an offer for to jar up their farts
and and get money for it, and like that was
something someone.

Speaker 1 (01:01:26):
Did that, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:01:27):
A couple of years ago, and she sent herself to
the hospital with gastro intestinal distress because she was eating
like stuff to make herself a productive diet, and she
sort of caused herself some damage. But she was making
like hundreds of thousands of dollars telling her farts and jars.
And I said, look, if someone's going to offer you
that money, fucking do it. Who cares it's your fart
in a jar. If someone offered me that money, And

(01:01:48):
I'm putting this on the record right now, Okay, podcast listeners.
If you want my fart in a jar, I will
sell it to you. I don't care what you do
with it. It doesn't matter to me. It's just a fart
in the jar. I will sell you my fue.

Speaker 1 (01:02:02):
Does that work?

Speaker 2 (01:02:03):
I don't know does that actually work?

Speaker 1 (01:02:06):
I mean, I don't open it. Does you does the
I don't want to.

Speaker 2 (01:02:11):
Know, but it's there's only one safe.

Speaker 1 (01:02:14):
I know, there's one way to know, but I don't
want to I'm never gonna know.

Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
At least it's your own fart. Okay, yes, you do
it with your own fart. Yeah, I just have to
wait a week to open it. But don't mail it
to yourself. The post office doesn't like that. I hear.

Speaker 1 (01:02:26):
No, we did not like that.

Speaker 2 (01:02:28):
We do not.

Speaker 1 (01:02:29):
We do not like farts in jars, at least not
nail those. You do fucking wrap that ship in bubble wrap. Thanks,
all right.

Speaker 2 (01:02:38):
The second alask conspiracy on my list was uh Haitians
eating the dogs and cats.

Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
God, God, it's so fucked up.

Speaker 2 (01:02:47):
There's still people out there that believe that, even though
like Trump had to kind of backtrack on it. But
I mean it all came from jd Vance right, Like
he was the one to put that Trump's head.

Speaker 1 (01:03:00):
It's to me, I almost have to admire the fact
that this guy just went out and said whatever the
fuck he wants. He said that ship, he said all
this other ship. He was like talking about Hannibal Lecter.
There's a point where I feel like he misunderstood what
asylum meant, Like he thought that like he thought asylum
that people were talking about, uh, you know, being granted

(01:03:22):
asylum was like and it doesn't matter. He just put
whatever the fuck, he said, whatever the fun you want,
and he's still beat Caramel Harris, who you know, a
proud but it's not a proud moment. And it's it's
like the moment idiocracy became real. Not the moment, but
it really drilled it down.

Speaker 2 (01:03:43):
Were finally there, Like the way the way he's filling
up his cabinet.

Speaker 1 (01:03:47):
Oh my god. Billionaires. They're all billionaires, man, billionaires, and
they all need to fight a bears. They all need
to fight bears if they want to, if they want
to congress, that's what they have to do. If you
want to approve, they have to fight a bear.

Speaker 2 (01:04:00):
I would give up my entire house and live in
a van if I could watch Elon Musk fight a
bear to the death.

Speaker 1 (01:04:06):
Me too, Me too. But you know, also Linda McMahon,
I want to see her fight a bear. Sure, she
probably has some wrestling moves, right, she did a couple
of elbow drops or something.

Speaker 2 (01:04:18):
I think she at least slapped her daughter once.

Speaker 1 (01:04:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:04:22):
Sure, well okay, So that that was my list of
twenty twenty four conspiracies. But it all leads us to
one place, Right, Luigi Banjione, we can spare ten minutes
or so for the weekend.

Speaker 1 (01:04:34):
Right, and if you're like, this is a tech podcast,
what are you talking about? It is a conspiracy theory podcast.
But also how often do I rail against capitalism and billionaires?

Speaker 2 (01:04:47):
So here we are, Yeah, here we are.

Speaker 1 (01:04:49):
Also, we talked we were just talking about farts and jars.
At least we're not talking about that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:54):
Still, we've already given you random topics of the week,
So we havet fart and jars. We got clown motels,
did graveyards, toe sucking?

Speaker 1 (01:05:02):
Yeah, hotel feet hotel.

Speaker 2 (01:05:05):
Yeah, you've got plenty of random topics for the Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:05:07):
There's lots of random topics. Let's let's let's watch it
for the week. Okay, all right, oh come on, damn
you all right?

Speaker 2 (01:05:17):
So, first of all, is Luigi. I don't know where
to start. Someone shot Brian Thompson in New York City, Right,
I did not feel bad about this?

Speaker 1 (01:05:29):
Me neither, And if yeah, I don't, and I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:05:33):
Not even sorry, I can't know. I'm not.

Speaker 1 (01:05:36):
Because look, healthcare in this country is so off the rails,
and this is a guy who runs a company that
doesn't provide anything for us, but he just makes money
denying people health care. And every person who's ever died
because they couldn't get a procedure or medication or went
broke and then died, or those people were murdered, I'm

(01:05:58):
sorry those people were fucking murdered. And if you don't
believe that you are the problem, you're not part of
the problem. You're the fucking problem because because you're not
going to ever be a billionaire, you're not okay, you're
just not. They don't want to never going to be
a billionaire. And if you've sucked these guys as butts, like,
what good does that really do you? What good does
that think? Do you think that is gonna give you

(01:06:21):
a place in their army? And the Apocalypse.

Speaker 2 (01:06:22):
I mean, they're I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:06:24):
Know, I don't get. I don't get why they're finishized.
People are like, oh, these guys, these guys are brilliant,
they're geniuses. No, they fuck people over and that's how
they get their money.

Speaker 2 (01:06:33):
I'll say, you know, when it comes to sucking a butt,
I can't help but think of the just the cavalcade
of idiots that post on everything Elon ever says on Twitter. Yeah,
but like I will say that one time, and he's
not a billionaire even close. But one time, Dave Anthony,
comedian and host of The Dollar Podcast, did retweet something

(01:06:56):
I said on one of his threads, and that made
me feel pretty good inside. But it only happened once.

Speaker 1 (01:07:03):
That's gotta be good. Who's the most Who's the most
famous person that ever retweeted you? Is that Dave Anthony?

Speaker 2 (01:07:08):
I think, yes, that's definitely Dave Anthony.

Speaker 1 (01:07:11):
Nice.

Speaker 2 (01:07:14):
Yeah, so right. And the thing about you're absolutely right,
it's murder to intentionally deny someone healthcare that could and
probably would in most cases save their lives or improve
the quality of life prolonger lives, et cetera. It's murder.

(01:07:34):
And this guy as far as we know. And everyone
said he was a real nice guy, don't care, really personable,
super friendly. Nope, And that to.

Speaker 1 (01:07:45):
Me, Nihlair was charismatic too. He killed lots of people.
He didn't do it himself, but he got lots of
people killed.

Speaker 2 (01:07:53):
But it implies to me that Brian Thompson could sleep
at night.

Speaker 1 (01:07:58):
M h.

Speaker 2 (01:07:58):
Yeah. You know. He didn't have big dark circles under
his eyes. He didn't look like he was starting to
hallucinate from all the murder he was doing. He had
a clean conscience.

Speaker 1 (01:08:07):
There's no three ghosts showing up at his his Christmas Eve.

Speaker 2 (01:08:10):
Oh if only if he's saying that the clown motel he'd.

Speaker 1 (01:08:13):
Have, Oh yeah, definitely, Yeah, they'd all be wearing clown
they'd all have giant Harry clown feet. Oh I love
it walking across that gross motel carpet.

Speaker 2 (01:08:25):
Is Harry clown feet a thing? No? No, I just
rambled that off like everyone's talking about Harry clownfeet.

Speaker 1 (01:08:31):
That's what I do, That's what I'm here for, is
to rattle off the weird shit. So I did not
feel bad that he died. I just didn't and I
never will, and anybody who Anybody's like, well, he shouldn't
have had to go, Elex shot in the back, Like
I wish you would have been shot in the front.
I wish you could have seen it coming. I'm sorry. No, no,
I'm not actually no, because I'm not sorry.

Speaker 2 (01:08:53):
He got shot in the leg first, and then he
was like I didn't he was at that point, he's
scared and trying to like hobble off. Oh but he
got shot two more times him.

Speaker 1 (01:09:03):
Yeah, so scared were people that had cancer that couldn't
afford their treatments, you know who had who had way
more pain? Yeah, way more pain and agony that went
on for so much longer.

Speaker 2 (01:09:14):
Yeah, absolutely lucky.

Speaker 1 (01:09:15):
Sorry, And I know I'm on a watch list.

Speaker 2 (01:09:18):
Yeah, it's fine where I watch list, that's fine. Yeah.
But here's here's the reason to me that I think
it was actually a good act because we know, like
the CEO died, but he got replaced by another CEO.
And that's the thing that has already been on records
saying like business as usual. We're going to keep you know,
our mission statement, which is to provide people the best
quality healthcare and make sure that the system isn't being

(01:09:40):
abused or some shit. Make sure people don't have unnecessary
procedures anyway. The reason it's good is because, as we
talked about before, these companies don't ever face real repercussions
when they do something evil apples find you know, pocket change, right,

(01:10:04):
and it's not just tech. We've seen it before. Wells
Fargo did some of the evilsh shit. Wells Fargo was
forging people's signatures on loan documents, and they're taking their
homes away and they still exist yet hasn't taken them down. Yeah.
So the only thing that the people at the top,
the CEOs, they know they're never going to go to prison.

(01:10:27):
They know they're not going to face any real repercussions
for anything. The only thing that can help us right
now is a small amount of fear. They need to
be afraid of the people that they're fucking over, and
this gave us that. I don't at least for a
little while, maybe still, because it's not like we're done
celebrating the Luigi Mangioni. People are still talking about him

(01:10:49):
and will be for a long time. And then there's
also the question of was it even Luigi Mangioni. A
lot of people are saying that the pictures don't quite
match up. His eyebrows are different, the smiles different.

Speaker 1 (01:11:00):
Well, I don't know, and I don't think we'll ever know.
They want us to think it's him. They indeed need
us to think it's him. They are already treating him
like he's guilty. There's no fair, fair trial for this guy.

Speaker 2 (01:11:13):
Well, they charged him with terrorism, which is also sock.

Speaker 1 (01:11:16):
Hilarious because people get shut gunned down every day and
none of them are it's he's getting this guy getting
all this bullshit because it was one of the corporate
elite that went down. It was one of them, not as.

Speaker 2 (01:11:28):
The ruling class got hurt instead of the average show
or Joe's mass shootings and so on. Those people don't we.

Speaker 1 (01:11:34):
Had mass shooting, Yeah, we had a mass shooting. Well,
we have mass shootings all the time. We just had
one of people of.

Speaker 2 (01:11:38):
The bomb abortion clinics still get charged with terrorism when
their whole purpose is to strike fear. It's the definition
of terrorism, right, And maybe Luigi's purpose was to strike
fear in the hearts of CEOs, But that's a much
smaller class of people.

Speaker 1 (01:11:51):
I don't the group of people that are going to
be affected by that, as terror is so astronomically small, right,
But the one the one nice thing about it though
that I see one one of the one of the
is this is you know, putting common ground for the

(01:12:11):
little people, the little guys finally have some common ground.
There are people on both sides of the aisle that
there shouldn't just be two sides up by obviously, but
both sides of the aisle that are realizing where this is.

Speaker 2 (01:12:24):
Yeah, it was actually a real highlight of social media
recently when you had people it was especially on the
right wing, but people like a Ben Shapiro or no,
he's the first one that comes to mind, but like
he was tweeting about like you shouldn't be celebrating the
death of the CEO. This is a tragedy and think
of his children or whatever, and people were like, I've

(01:12:46):
been following you for years, but dude, you're wrong on
this one. Yeah. Yeah, like still trying to be respectful.
But everybody, everybody that's like a normal person has had
problems getting healthcare, right, Like I have really health insurance,
but even I've had some times with their like no,
I know your doctor wants you to have this thing
that's going to really improve your quality of life. But no,

(01:13:07):
like I've had to fight those fights before. Yeah, it
happens to all of us, does Okay, But I still
think that there's some like super villain level shit going
on here. Oh absolutely, because it starts with like weird
things that I still don't have a good explanation for,
like the backpack full of Monopoly money that he's left

(01:13:29):
in Central Park. We've never gotten an answer on that. No. Sorry, Well,
but I'm also not one hundred percent sure that the
guy they caught is the guy. Yeah, I'm I'm sort
of on the fence about that. Like it does kind
of look like him, but it seems like this dude
got caught on purpose and he's pleading not guilty. I
think he's got something up his sleep. And that leads

(01:13:51):
me one F Jeff to a number, the number two
eighty six. So have you explored this? Oh okay, let
me just take it. I don't think I'm going to
be able to fully do this justice, but let me
take you on a little trip. And I started seeing
this stuff pop up on TikTok, and some of it

(01:14:13):
is clearly and immediately true. And then other stuff is
like a little speculative. But let's start with Luigi Mangioni's
Twitter profile, which miraculously still exists. Like a lot of times,
the social media companies will take these down as soon
as someone's accused of a crime, but for whatever reason, Hey, you.

Speaker 1 (01:14:32):
Can be convicted of a crime and still has Twitter account.

Speaker 2 (01:14:35):
Oh that's true. But yes, at Pep Pep at Pep Mangioni,
which has a picture of Luigi and the profile. It's
a verified account, YadA, YadA, YadA, it still exists. But
this was something he hadn't tweeted from this account since
June of twenty twenty four, so there's no reason to
think it isn't him. But it's a very strange profile.

(01:15:00):
And the number two eighty six starts with the fact
that he has had exactly two hundred and eighty six
posts on Twitter, and then he stopped tweeting months in
advance of his shooting at Brian Thompson shooting alleged shooting,
right and very true on that one. And the first

(01:15:20):
thing to notice is that his banner picture. Maybe I
can share this with you real quick over the zoom,
but I'll also try to post it up on on Patreon.
But let me let me just share this application window
with you here. So that's his banner picture from Twitter,
and it's three pictures. One is the picture that we've

(01:15:41):
seen of him in like the fucking rainforest with his
ripped abs and breaking all hot and hunky. The picture
in the middle is his fucked up spine right with
big pins in it, and we know he was We
know that Luigi Mangioni, whether or not he was the shooter,
has had some serious back problems. And then do you
know what the other picture is?

Speaker 1 (01:16:02):
That's a Pokemon.

Speaker 2 (01:16:03):
It's a Pokemon?

Speaker 1 (01:16:05):
Is it Pokemon to eighty six?

Speaker 2 (01:16:08):
Let me just click over here on this tab while
I'm sure I'm a scream with king it is. It
is bray Loom, a plant based Pokemon, and it is
Pokemon number two eighty six. Wow. Kind of weird, right, Okay?
So then he's had two hundred eighty six tweets and
he's got Pokemon number two hundred and eighty six sitting
in a profile right next to a picture of his

(01:16:29):
fucked up spine. So there's extra meetings we can draw
from this, apparently, And I'm taking this from Wired not
just TikTok, and Wired is a real news site. To
eighty six is a code that health insurance companies use
when an appeal time has expired for a health care claim,

(01:16:52):
or sorry, when appeal time limits for a healthcare claim
are not met, So like you can't appeal something because
it's not time to appeal something yet. So that's kind
of weird. There was a little connection in that Luigi
has an uncle, I think, who's like a congressman, and
his uncle's Twitter account follows exactly two hundred and eighty

(01:17:14):
six counts, which is kind of weird. But I don't
know how much that specifically ties in other things people
have found that are a little more spurious. Perhaps, but
maybe someone pointed out that in the Bible. Because it
always has to come back to the Bible, Proverbs twenty

(01:17:36):
eight to six says, quote, better is a poor man
who walks in his integrity than a rich man who
is crooked in his ways unquote. Maybe maybe why Proverbs
not to eighty six or whatever. There probably isn't an
eighty six of anything, but that The weirdest part of

(01:17:59):
all of this is when people started saying that the
McDonald's where Luigi was arrested was two hundred and eighty
six miles away from the shooting. Now, I saw someone
on TikTok post a picture of a Google map that
showed two hundred and eighty six miles, and I tried
to figure it out for myself, and I took from
the New York Hilton Midtown to a McDonald's in Altoona, Pennsylvania,

(01:18:24):
that I think is the one he was caught at.
And I came up with two hundred and seventy nine
miles if you're driving or if you're walking from New
York to Altoona, Pennsylvania, two hundred and eighty three miles. Wow,
we're really close on this one, but I'm taking it

(01:18:44):
from a specific point. Maybe that's not exactly where Brian
Thompson died, or also maybe it's not the right McDonald's,
but it is weirdly close.

Speaker 1 (01:18:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:18:54):
And in the end, Luigi had a bunch of stuff
on him in his backpack, a gun. Were not sure
if it's the gun, but he had a gun on him,
supposedly had a bunch of money, supposedly had a manifesto
printed out in his backpack, and then was like taking
selfies of himself and being kind of weird, like he
had a mask on, but then they like pulled his

(01:19:14):
mask down to take selfies in the McDonald's and I'll
tune to Pennsylvania. And with all of that stuff said,
I've found it very hard to believe this whole time before,
even before I heard about this two eighty six theory,
that he didn't get caught on purpose, like it seems
like he was trying to get caught. Yeah, And then
he pleads not guilty to what end, And he said

(01:19:34):
that the money in his backpack was planted by cops,
Like he said, like, oh, all that stuff was in
my backpack, except that eight thousand dollars or way like
that wasn't there. Someone must have put that in my
backpack after they arrested me, Like he's it's just it's
really interesting, and like there hasn't been anything new yet
because they're doing like pre trial stuff. But he did

(01:19:55):
plead not guilty, And I can't wait to see where
this goes, because why would you get caught like you
don't unless perhaps you're not the guy, maybe you know
the guy who did the shooting. Maybe you maybe he's
a cousin of yours or a friend, and you guys

(01:20:16):
have like a similar smile, and you're just participating in
this really really really weird gaslighting of our justice system
because it could be. It feels like it really could be.
What do you think.

Speaker 1 (01:20:29):
I think that we could round up everybody in every
McDonald's right now, and you would find so many people
with a gun and a backpack. So I mean, obviously
is it the specific gun. I don't know, but well, yeah,
because this is America, God damn it. And how many
of them sort of look like Luigi? Probably lots.

Speaker 2 (01:20:53):
I mean, he's he's a handsome dude.

Speaker 1 (01:20:57):
Dude, he's got those having a hard time, not just
its chiseled dude.

Speaker 2 (01:21:01):
Okay, well he was well, yes he's chiseled now after
his back problems, but it sounded like he had a
wretched healthcare journey, you know, trying to get his back
fixed and then you know, painkillers and stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:21:14):
He came from money too, so.

Speaker 2 (01:21:16):
Well, and yeah, so Luigi Mangioni, who may or may
not be a shooter, did not grow up poor or unprivileged.
And I guess his family is involved, maybe owns or
is somewhere partial owner or full owner of a chain
of like senior communities, like or nursing homes, which does

(01:21:37):
tie him to the healthcare industry, But it seems like
the story is more personal than that. And if you
look at his tweet history, like he was not some
wild eyed socialist militant, he was probably the opposite of that.

Speaker 1 (01:21:50):
We would know.

Speaker 2 (01:21:51):
We can we can smell our own yeah, but as
we know, this is not a partisan issue. Hating the
healthcare system is not a part of issue. So it's
just it's is kind of wild. The supposed manifesto that
was in his backpack, if it was even his talk like,
it starts with like my apology is to the Feds.
You guys do a great job, and I'm sorry for

(01:22:12):
all the trouble I've caused or something. If that is
or is not something Luigi wrote, we'll see, but it
it could fit the profile.

Speaker 1 (01:22:22):
Perhaps somebody in an office leaning over the shoulder, or
somebody at the computer typing up it's like say something
nice about law enforcement. Now you got to put that
in there. I really don't think it's no put it
in there.

Speaker 2 (01:22:36):
We should we should check Luigi's history on fiver dot
com and see if I've heard anyone from Manifesto writing skills.
I don't know. And it's just really weird. And I
like it's it's good that a blow was struck at
the healthcare industry, a warning shot, if you will, But
also like I cannot say with any confidence that this

(01:22:58):
is the guy. I really think that there's a chance
that it's not, you.

Speaker 1 (01:23:01):
Know, And if you're still not with me on or
with us on this, I wasn't sad when Osama dead,
but this guy would be responsible for the deaths of
way more people.

Speaker 2 (01:23:13):
I was a little disappointed when Osama bin Lad died
because it would have been better to bring him in. Yeah,
and there's there's conspiracy theories around that ship that I
also kind of agree with, Like maybe the government didn't
want him talking because he had reasons for doing what
he did. And it wasn't just that he hated our freedom. No,
he hated that we were in his holy land. We

(01:23:34):
hated he hated that we had military bases, you know,
in the Middle East, in Saudi Arabia where he came from.
Like he had reasons for aiding America and wanting to
strike at US uh so, maybe they just didn't want
that on the record. Maybe he was never supposed to
be brought in dead or alive. It was just dead.
So but the fact he didn't get to have a
day in court maybe a little sad. But I don't

(01:23:54):
care that he's dead.

Speaker 1 (01:23:56):
No, I mean neither.

Speaker 2 (01:23:57):
Who gives a shit. He was still he was still
a bad guy. Absolutely, Yeah, there's plenty of people. I
don't mourn when you've done something terrible. I don't care
like it's good's dead. Yeah, absolutely better if he had testified.
But gosh, if there's another guy that committed suicide, yeah, weird, weird.

(01:24:17):
A lot of these people that could take down a
lot of big people keep committing.

Speaker 1 (01:24:24):
That's that's why we don't have a lot, a lot
of listeners, because because we can't get big, because once
we get big, they'll be on to us. Tell your
friends about us, people, tell your friends. Machine war is on.
Get we gotta we gotta rally up. It's time to
take a side. Don't side with your toaster.

Speaker 2 (01:24:42):
It hates you. I would never be a smart toaster.
A smart toaster could kill you, like willingly kill you.

Speaker 1 (01:24:49):
It doesn't even have to be that smart. It could
be like a you know, kind of slightly I mean,
if it's slightly dumb toaster could could probably wreak havoc.
I mean, look at look who we're Look who look
as look who they're up against us. We're going down?

Speaker 2 (01:25:09):
Yeah, uh well, you and I are for sure, Yes,
for sure, as soon as the powers that be here
are voices.

Speaker 1 (01:25:15):
Yes, so is the ALGA, as soon as our NSA
agent sends this tape to the I don't know whoever,
whoever is above them.

Speaker 2 (01:25:23):
I just hope that when eventually we kill ourselves, we
can kill ourselves together.

Speaker 1 (01:25:28):
Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 2 (01:25:29):
I think it would be nice.

Speaker 1 (01:25:31):
I kind of want to thumb in Louisa. If it
comes to that, you know, let's do that.

Speaker 2 (01:25:35):
But that would actually be better then fake suicided is
if you and I can drive off a cliff together,
holding hands and cheering.

Speaker 1 (01:25:42):
Yeah, so if you guys, if we don't, we'll live
stream it too, so so you'll know, so you'll know
it's us. If we die any other way, we die
any other way, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:25:54):
The only way, the only way these two Jeffs are
committing suicide if it's off a cliff in a car
oh and cheering.

Speaker 1 (01:26:01):
And what we're going to do is we're gonna we're
going to write down the model of car we're going
to use and put it in an envelope and give
it to our wives and and and if it's if
it's a different model than that, then you know it
was staged or we just couldn't get that rental.

Speaker 2 (01:26:16):
Maybe that's but still, yeah, well there you have it. People.

Speaker 1 (01:26:21):
We will with people episode.

Speaker 2 (01:26:23):
We've had a lot of there was a lot of conspiracy.
There is in twenty twenty four. I thought it was
fun to take a look back at the year and
a lot of crazy tech stuff that's about to happen
to us in twenty twenty five, so plenty to look
forward to.

Speaker 1 (01:26:36):
Yeah, lots of us to keep track of. And can
I can I do one suggestion for People's algorithm here
at the end, since it's been kind of a downer
of an episode.

Speaker 2 (01:26:45):
I don't think it's been a downer, but go ahead.

Speaker 1 (01:26:48):
Hundreds of beavers watch the movie. It is. It is
very funny.

Speaker 2 (01:26:53):
Give us give us your one sentence elevator pitch and
where where can you find it? Is it on Brian Good.

Speaker 1 (01:27:00):
Or you can you can watch it on Prime Video,
but it sounds like familiar on Prime Yeah, but it's
It's probably the best movie I've seen this year. It's
so funny. It's just a guy out in the woods
battling the wildlife, and all the wildlife is played by
people wearing beaver suits and and dog suits and it's
fair and rabbit suits. Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (01:27:23):
Well it's good because you can definitely say no animals
are harmed in the making of this. Actually, yeah, it's
all clearly people in suits.

Speaker 1 (01:27:30):
But yes, yes, it's great. It's like a it's like
a bugs Bunny cartoon with with a real person in it.

Speaker 2 (01:27:37):
You know. That would have been kind of cool, like
if instead of making that photo realistic animated version of
like The Lion King, but not as cool as like
the play version where it's people in suits that they
had just taken the stand ins, just the mo cap
stand ins and just like teamsters that are smoking on set,

(01:27:57):
and just like Hakuna Matata and then like they released
that as an unfinished movie instead of the real thing.
I would have watched that, Yeah, I would have watched that.
Take note, Disney, if you want my money, that's how
you do the worst version of them. Yes, yeah, okay,
we should probably go. Yes, it's been a long time,
but we'll be back in two more weeks. I'm sure we'll.

(01:28:20):
This was a get back to basics episode. We've got
we've got Aaron to talk to. We've got Aaron to
talk to. We've got other guests lined up in the Hoppers,
non Aaron guests. Yeah, people that aren't named Aaron, believe
it or not, right, So stay tuned people. And there's
also maybe even some big and interesting news coming on
the horizon for this show. But yeah, I'm not going

(01:28:41):
to tell you what it is, because what if it
doesn't happen, then I'm a jack guest, So we'll just
tease it instead. Okay, uh, I got I got nothing else?

Speaker 1 (01:28:50):
All right, let's do it.

Speaker 2 (01:28:51):
Braise by Luigi and

Speaker 1 (01:28:54):
And all hail they all hail the algorithm.

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