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March 31, 2025 72 mins
The Jef(f)s have cracked the code on how AI is going to turn The Dead Internet into the future of Suggested Articles.  Also:  Salty Licorice, The Algorithm either saved or ruined a woman's life... and the Signal/Yemen stuff, if you're into that sort of thing.


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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Suggested Articles is part of odd Pods Media.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
A podcast network. Dial up those VPNs, put on your
tinfoil hat, and if you're going to spend classified military secrets,
don't do it on signal. For the love of God,
his time for suggested articles a podcast.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
I mean, we can talk about this more later, but
I still think that we should be using carrier pigeons.
That is the most secure way to send a message,
especially a war plan.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
Okay, we should go old school. Yeah, old school, Yeah, definitely, definitely.
I'm okay with that.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
Hey there, Jeff, Hey, Jeff, how are you.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
I'm doing all right.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
How about you? I'm okay. But I will say this
in case anyone has forgotten. COVID is still out there. People.
I'm a little uh, I'm a little flemy today.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
Children, It's coming. The call is coming from inside the house, Jeff,
COVID is coming from inside those.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
I think I actually got it because I am a
stupid person that leaves the house and I shouldn't.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
You should live in a bubble.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
I think I have been sick pretty bad a couple
times recently. The first time I tested and it was
not COVID, but I was convinced it was because I
was so fucking miserable, But this last time it was COVID,
and I got to travel with it super.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
Fun, like the end of Twelve Monkeys.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
It might as well have been. I didn't know it
was COVID at the time, but I also had to
return home. I went to Seattle for a family thing,
and I was badly sick the last night. I was there,
like fever and coffin and snotty, but I didn't I

(02:10):
didn't know it was COVID, and I don't know what
I would have done had I known it was COVID,
but I'd masked up and I flew home. I was
wearing a ninety five the whole time, so I, you know,
hopefully didn't get anyone else around me sick, but you
never know, you never know. I feel bad.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
Well, here's hoping that you didn't start a new plaque
and at the new pandemic, yes.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
The one. The one good thing I guess is that
I don't know if this is true, but I feel
like I heard this somewhere. As COVID keeps mutating, it's
like easier to transmit but getting weaker, Like that's sort
of the way COVID has played out right like it's
not killing people very often anymore. So I got that

(02:54):
going for me.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
It's killing me because I have to talk to covided
up Jeff over here.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
Yeah, just since zo call.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
Just since I've been on the Zoom call, I started
to getting flummy. I don't know what's happening, myself getting sicker.
Oh well, I think I have the virus.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
It's definitely my fault. Yeah, okay, So welcome to Suggester
and ourcles everybody. We've got a lot to cover today.
There there's a lot happening in the world and also
in our lives and also you guys, we got we
got some interesting mail bags today. But let's let's start with, uh,

(03:34):
what's been happening since last week? Talked any weird ship
that the algorithm has been doing to us? Would you
like to get started?

Speaker 2 (03:42):
Well, I got an update for you.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
Okay, I like an update.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
Guess what I found out this week? Our building is
going to get a new roof.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
Congratulations.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
Yeah, the algorithm has been predicting it for more than
a year.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
And here we are. You're talking about at home right now? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (04:03):
Yeah, okay, yeah, this building here yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
Do you you have someone living above you?

Speaker 2 (04:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (04:09):
I have.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
There are two there, there are two floors above.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
Two floors of the okay, yes, yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
Hopefully, which also means I'm gonna get an even less
sleep at some point because you know, they don't they
don't work while I'm at work.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
You know. Well that's very true. But there's still one
floor like above you, so maybe it won't be Maybe
it won't be that bad.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
I'm trying. I'm just hoping the guy upstairs. The last
couple of times we've recorded, he's decided to pound something
up there, maybe himself. I don't know, but the sound
is hoping that doesn't start today. I hope he's pounding
something good because the world needs more love. Yes, yeah,
it is, it is.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
So yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
Actually, our entire complex are going to get roofs. So
so that's thing.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
It's good that those companies are getting business because now
maybe they can scale back their advertising operation and leave
you alone.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
My god, I hope.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
So can I give you a weird one from TikTok
while you look at your notes?

Speaker 2 (05:11):
Sure?

Speaker 1 (05:11):
Yeah, yeah, so you know how you could be watching
a TikTok about whatever and at the bottom it will
give you like a like a search suggestion of like
the topic of what you're listening to, and then you
can click on that to find out more information. Rarely
does it actually pay off for me, at least when

(05:31):
it's a juicy topic. But it'll give me something related
to that, and I'll try to figure out, you know,
I get to go through a puzzle. Well. I took
four different screenshots for this, and the screenshots themselves are
not important. But it was I was. It was a
randomly scrolling video and it was some lady talking about

(05:52):
some dude named Craig Gustafson, who I guess did something
shitty and he works in the theater business. I don't
know it was, It was not. It was not a
TikTok for me. It was just a random thing in
the free you page threw up at me. But I
wanted to know if it did relate to me. So
I click at the bottom where it says search Craig
Gustafson theater right, I click on that, and the first

(06:15):
match in the upper left hand corner is a video
called the Female Narcissist Top Toxic Hidden Behaviors, and it's
a lady talking about female narcissism. Wow, And then underneath
that there's some stuff about theaters and a few I'm like, well,
that's weird, and I decided not to pursue Craig gustaveson

(06:37):
any further and I went on with my life. A
few videos later, I get one from this guy Tizzy
Tizzy e n t Oh. Yeah, he's super famous on
TikTok or he's got like ten billion followers, and he's
doing a video about some crazy fucking lady who goes
ballistic on someone and an in and out burger because

(06:58):
she thinks, oh, it was a lesbian couple who had
a daughter, and she has decided that this lesbian couple
is trafficking this girl just because they're lesbians, and yeah,
the worst in so many ways. So she's on video
just screaming at these people and losing her shit while

(07:19):
her husband's like, maybe we should go home, and she's like,
but the children. It's a whole thing. And so at
the bottom is Abby Rice Phoenix Arizona in and out.
I don't know if Abby Rice was her name or
someone else, but in any case, but that's the search thing.
So I click on the search thing, and the first
video at the top the female Narcissist Top Toxic Behaviors,

(07:42):
and what the hell? I was like, wait a second,
didn't I see that the last time? So I go
back and I find the other video and I click,
and that's why I start taking screenshots. I'm like, Okay,
TikTok really wants me to get to know this. And
the page name is the Enlightened Something, but it's a
lady like I don't know if it's the Enlightened Feminist
or something, but it's a lady who's just talking shit

(08:03):
about women, and I don't know. It's very, very weird.
I don't know what the algorithm was doing. I haven't
seen that since, but that particular day it really wanted
me to learn about female narcissism.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
Now we all know, all right, what's your next thing?
I have a weird one? Do you feel like the
algorithm is getting more aggressive sometimes? Yeah, here's here's one. Like,
it's not it's not. I mean, we know this is
how the algorithm works. You talk about something and then
you start getting ads for it. Well, the other day,

(08:39):
my daughter was over for dinner. We were telling her
about this new show we watched The Pit I don't
know if you've seen it, but it's like it's.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
A medical drama, right, yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
And it's kind of it's it's kind of done in
real time, so each episode's an hour. Basically, he's the
four forms Noah Wiley. Yeah yeah, exceptbody actually uses the
bathroom in the twelve hours.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
So there's that.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
Carrie and I when we watched twenty four, we're like,
how has he not had to take a leak at all?
That's that's the most unrealistic aspect about the show. No
one uses the bathroom. There should be you know.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
Anyway, Sorry, getting off topic now. As you were saying that,
my phone just started playing music for some reason and
it was weird in my lap. So like the algorithm
didn't want you talking about the PIT. I guess I
don't know.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
No, I didn't want to talk about people who use
the bathroom.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
Oh okay, point not that I.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
Want to see that. That's that makes me.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
Sound weird, I admit, just to be fair, the algorithm
does not poop. It doesn't know how we work. Yeah,
all right, So you're watching the Pit.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
So we're tell we're telling our daughter about this show,
and as we're telling her, she gets a push notification
on from YouTube for the PIT.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
So you're watching it on the regular old TV. Yeah,
through accounts that are probably linked to you or your wife.

Speaker 2 (10:02):
Well yeah, not her phone though she's not she doesn't
live here. She'd never heard us talk about the show before.
Oh your other daughter, Oh my other guy who does? Yeah,
because you have a.

Speaker 1 (10:12):
Daughter that lives with you, and you have a daughter
and that does not, So you're fiting. Wow, that's well,
that is weirder even Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
Very aggressive, really wanted. So the algorithm did want people
to watch the PIT. So you're wrong. It's the bathroom
thing that the algorithm didn't want us to talk about. Right,
you got any other weirdness?

Speaker 1 (10:31):
I mean, this was something I saved in my algorithm folder,
and it's less about well, I mean, because we talk
about AI a lot, so I guess it came up
for me on that. But this is like a good
tech tip mm hmm. So you know, now when you
Google something pretty consistently every time at the top, there
will be an AI overview, right, And that is bad

(10:55):
for a few reasons. One, we can't always trust the AI,
and two this is Google's way of making you not
click through and give traffic to actual websites. That's probably
the worst part, right, So someone and I guess I
will credit this. I don't know if she's the person
that figured it out, but it's someone. She has a

(11:16):
TikTok page. Her name is Kim Commando. Commando with a
k okay on Kim Commando's TikTok page. She figured out
how to disable Google's AI search feature. Oh yeah, and
you can't do it through a setting. Google will not
let you just turn that shit off. But Google has

(11:38):
always been Google's always been very sensitive to their advertisers
in terms of you know, language and content and stuff.
I'm going to search for how many Tuesdays are in
a year? And at the top I have search labs
AI overviews. Now you search for how many Tuesdays are
in a year? Fuck?

Speaker 2 (11:55):
Okay, how many Tuesdays are in a year?

Speaker 1 (11:58):
Fuck? Okay?

Speaker 2 (12:01):
Did you get an AI overview?

Speaker 1 (12:02):
I got an AI overview. There are typically fifty two
tuesdays in the year. Then blah blah blah. Yep, did
you get an aid?

Speaker 2 (12:10):
I got no AI overview?

Speaker 1 (12:12):
Yeah see it works, So just fuck every you know, yeah,
use fuck fuck every search.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
Fuck every search. Okay, that sounds like a T shirt.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
Yeah, Google, Fuck, all right, what's your next one.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
My other weirdness I think is well, no, it's just
standard weirdness. I'm suddenly getting Google articles about articles suggestions
about Mount Everest because I watched the Everest movie. But
there's not articles about Mount Everest. There are articles about
the movie Mount Everest.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
So it knows you watched.

Speaker 3 (12:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
I didn't even know there was a Mount Everest movie.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
Yeah. It's about the disaster, the climbing disaster with the
two professional or when they started, uh you know, you
could hire somebody to take you up there basically, and
so it was. It was when people who weren't real
climbers were suddenly able to get up on the mountain
and there were all these people submitting on the same day,
and this blizzard came in and the like eight people died.

(13:20):
Oh yes, it's not the worst disaster. But it had
a lot of coverage because John Krakauer, the author, was
on the expedition and wrote a book about it called
the movie Interestingly Enough only really covers the white people
who died. Boy weird, Yeah, I know, even though it

(13:44):
was a.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
Even though they were they were or did they survive?

Speaker 2 (13:53):
There were there were people in a Taiwanese expedition. Oh okay,
so it's way way more racist thing you think.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
Mount Everest sounds incredibly dumb at this point because of
how many people can just get up to the top.
Now I've heard that there's just like a line like
you just following big crowds of people as you get
up to the top of this mountain. Yes, it's like Disneyland,
pretty awful.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
Yeah, I was always fascinated by the Mount overst, but
I never wanted to climbing myself. Honestly, sounds sounds terrible
that the just the ice fall you have to traverse
just to get to Camp one. Nope, I'm out, Yeah,
I'm out.

Speaker 1 (14:41):
Yep, same here. All right. So it was Jennifer's birthday recently, Yes,
and I happened to find uh. I mean, I would
have done this anyway, but I made it like a
surprise for her birthday because it was like two days
after her birthday. So as part of her birthday festivity,
I took her out one night and surprised her with

(15:03):
a trip to the movie theater, which she was not
initially excited about because it's just a movie theater and
it's on like a Tuesday or Wednesday. Like, she was like, Okay,
we're going to the movies. Thanks, But I kept her
like facing away from what we were seeing so she
couldn't see what we were And basically I took her
to go see Purple Rain, which is one of her
favorite old movies. She loves Prince, she loves Purple Rain,

(15:26):
and she did not know it was coming back for
one of those limited release special events of the theaters,
so she was very excited as soon as the movie started,
and she was like, what it felt. It felt good.
On the way home, we're talking about the movie and
how the acting, oh my god, the acting, Like, honestly,

(15:47):
Prince wasn't that bad, especially compared to his many co stars,
but boy, the acting in that movie is terrible. But
she was saying that she was looking up information about
the movie and how some of these people got cast
or whatever, and there were some interesting stories and she
said they should have made a documentary about them making

(16:07):
a Purple Rain. And the next day, I'm doom scrolling
Facebook like you do. Hell, yeah, there's a random suggest
article from Variety that had only been published nine hours earlier.
After Netflix canceled his nine hour Prince documentary, director Ezra
Edelman is speaking out about the Book of Prince, which

(16:29):
was intended to be a six part film about the
late singer and it goes on from there. But I
thought that was kind of fucked.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
Yeah, that is that is pretty fucked.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
Yeah, very like too specific, Like I get that, that knows.
I went to go see a Prince movie because I
bought it through my phone. I bought the Take Us
through my phone. But to bring up a documentary kind
of fucked.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
Yeah, now here, I just want to I don't want
to go back and harp on this, but I did
forget an important detail of the Everest story. The film
came out in twenty fifteen. Okay, the articles that was
giving me were recent. The one I took a screenshot
of was from six days ago. Why are there are
those six days old for a movie that came out
in twenty fifteen.

Speaker 1 (17:11):
That is weird.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
That is weird, And I'm starting to wonder how much
the algorithm is just generating generating material based on stuff
like that? Have we have we looked into that, oh,
considered at conspiracy?

Speaker 1 (17:25):
Like are Okay, so, oh look, I don't know that
this is happening, right, maybe maybe like Neon Chaos can
help figure it out if you're listening, if he still listens.
But okay, let's build a new conspiracy theory. Okay, the
algorithm knows that you saw that movie, and the AI

(17:49):
engines are looking for more traffic because they have to
try to justify their existence. So the algorithm feeds the
fact that you watched Everest into the AI engine. The
AI engine generates an article about that movie and publishes
it just for you, just so that you can get

(18:09):
a suggested article. Right.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
Honestly, it's crazy. It doesn't sound that crazy.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
Crazy. Yeah, I mean, the only the only way I
could consider that there would just be an article about
a movie, you know, ten years old, would be maybe
maybe somebody maybe just barely got on a streaming service.
But it's not. It's not about, oh, here's what to
watch on Netflix this week. It's you know, here's the

(18:38):
true story of what really happened on Mount Everest, you
know that day those days. Let's talk about something else.
You want to hear something weird that happen to me.
This might yes, it's always might have nothing to do
with anything. But the other day I came home from work.
I I'm old, So I come home in the morning

(19:00):
and I eat and then I lately, I've just been
so tired. I take my my my daily meds, and
I go to bed. One of the meds is to
help me sleep. I didn't fall asleep. I didn't fall
asleep until nearly noon. Did you freeze up? I was
just very still. I'm sorry. Okay, I'm gonna try to
power through this story. Okay, I didn't fall asleep till

(19:23):
nearly noon. And my daughter does something that she often
does is she'll come in around lunchtime and ask me
if if she wants if I want to get anything,
she'll door dash, you know, launch or go grab lunch
or something. And I was just falling asleep when she
came in, and it was she wanted she was gonna
get stup taco bell, so I ordered my stuff. I'm

(19:45):
just like, geez, why che have to wake me up?
You know, not that I'm not that I'm mad, because
you know who has a kid that's like, hey, you
want some lunch? You know, looking I'm going to make
sure I had my daily Taco bell intake.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
Literally never what happened to me?

Speaker 2 (19:57):
I I it's that thing where I fall asleep and
it just feels like as soon as my eyes closed, hey,
the foods here, so so I'm tired. My body wants
to go to sleep. I come out, I come out
of the bedroom, come to the kitchen, eat my food.
It was indescribably good. It was like the best food

(20:17):
I'd ever eaten. Was so good. It's the drugs, yeah,
it is the drugs. The drugs and the tiredness and
the and the not being one hundred percent awake. And
then I go back to bed. I just crashed in
the bed and I just have all these lucid dreams
and everything turns into Taco Bell, like I I at
one point, I.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
Like chocolate, yeah exactly.

Speaker 2 (20:40):
I start I start trying to think of things that
I even tried to think of work. But then, like
like in the dream, the tet package just became became
you know, chiloupas and fucking crunch traps, and and then
then I kind of got up. I did a lap
around the and then I I was like, well, I

(21:02):
don't know how I can do this because I couldn't.
It was weird. It was weirdly upsetting that I could
not get as. It was like having a song stuck
in your head, but it was Taco Bell and just
as And finally I went to sleep, and I did.
I fell asleep for about five hours, and then I
got up and I was just yeah, finally, you know, sleepless,
dreamless sleep. But it was just so weird. I don't know,

(21:27):
don't get old. Maybe I shouldn't work at night. I
don't know.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
Based on my personal history of life, if I had
had a dream where everything around me was turning into
Taco Bell, and I have had dreams like I've had.
I had a dream once when I was a kid
where people were turning into chocolate. It was like a
plague that was killing people, but they were turning into chocolate.
I would wake up with a raging fever. Yeah, oh

(21:52):
my god, that's what the Taco Bell dream would mean
to me. But for you, it was just drugs. That's
kind of that's.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
Funny that you say that, because I was telling this
one of my friends I work with, and he said
basically the same thing, when he has dreams like that, that
he'll have dreams where. But in his dreams, it's like
if he doesn't lie a certain way, China will fall
off the map, or we'll get sucked into or something.
You know, some terrible disaster will happen. But it's always
when he's sick. Yeah, because your brain's boiling sick. My

(22:19):
brain isn't boiling, is it.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
I don't know. I know who are wearing a hoodie?
He'd be keeping too much eating.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
It's nice and it's nice and cool today it's fifty degrees.

Speaker 1 (22:29):
Uh, you know what I think? I think we should
take a commercial break. Yes, and when we come back,
we've got mail bag. Haven't done a mail bag in
a while, and uh and more already.

Speaker 3 (22:43):
All right, Hey, guys, are you passionate about prison plate wear?
Then you should come watch on the LUNI with us
where we watch a Golden Girls episode, play a little
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Speaker 1 (23:05):
Okay, and we're back. All right, let's get into the
mail bag, buddy.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
That sounds great. How does one send us mail? Oh,
that's a good question.

Speaker 1 (23:16):
If you wanted to reach out to us, and you should,
because there's things we want to hear from you. You
can reach us at Suggested Articles Podcasts at gmail dot com.
In email, it is an email, Yes, thank you, thank
you so much. Yeah, that's that's our email address. And

(23:40):
there are things we want to know when the algorithm
has been creeping you out. We also want to know about,
like the ads you've been hearing. How specific are they? Yes,
I've been getting ads for California stuff, but it is
not pinpoint in my location. Very well, it's hit me
with like I got an ad for a Baptist university

(24:00):
that's like an hour east of where I am, And
I got San Diego Credit Union, which is like an
hour and a half south of me. I also got
ads for Mercedes Benz of Temecula, which is a city
about an hour south of me.

Speaker 2 (24:16):
That's one of my favorite city names, Temecula and Rancho Cucamonga.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
Rancho Cucamonga is a good one. Yeah, Temecula is like
southern California wine country. I don't go there often, nor
do I drive a Mercedes Benz or can afford such
a thing. But what I did find funny about that
particular commercial was that they're now advertising get your Mercedes
Benz Terra free. Before the prices go up. Oh wow, Yeah,

(24:44):
because they know it's about to get really bad. They
sell some cars while they still can.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
Sure.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
Yeah. I also got a lot of ads for sports
betting and college textbooks, both of which kind of strange.
So it hasn't like the algorithm for uh, the ad
engine for this new host of ours has not completely
figured me out yet, but it's it's working on it.
It's like zeroing in on me.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
Mine thinks I want to buy a Toyota. It really
wants me to buy a Toyota.

Speaker 1 (25:13):
The ads that I.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
Get for mental health, and based on the stories I've
told today, you can understand that I should probably start
listening to those.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
I want you to tell a therapist about your taco
bell dream and ask what it means.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
There's price I'm underlying Freudian bullshit.

Speaker 4 (25:35):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (25:35):
So I've got a I've got two male bag items
for us. One is from Tried and True Benjamin Okay,
and then one from a new entry. A new contestant
has entered the arena. So let's start with Ben Okay. Uh. Ben,
Now that has been from the Chasing the Whimsy podcast, Yes,
a show that you have frequented. Friend of the show. Yeah,

(25:57):
he's been against here a couple of times. Behind the
scenes info he was actually our Santa Claus on the
holiday episode shocking. Yeah, I hope I didn't freak anyone
out there.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
That's kind of a spoiler alert for an episode that
happened in December.

Speaker 1 (26:14):
Yeah, if you haven't listened, go listen, damn it. You'll
learn a lot about something lucky. So Ben reached out
to us to know. First of all, he still loves
the podcast, so that's nice. And he has hired on

(26:36):
a staff artist in his media conglomerate named Kit on
Instagram Kit Underscore Art l m ao. Nice. I think
that's on purpose for like, laugh my ass off, Kit
Underscore Art lmao. And I'll post this. I'll post the
pictures to our Patreon, our free patreon, Patreon dot com,

(26:56):
slash slash suggested articles a Patreon.

Speaker 3 (27:03):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
Anyway, So he he had a Kit make a couple
comics that are in his Gnome genre but are a
little bit about you. Actually they're about you. He made
He made a one f Jeff Nome. Yes, did you
see these comics already?

Speaker 2 (27:25):
I have? I I have seen some in I saw
an early uncolored version.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
Oh, are they supposed to be colored? Because what I
have is black and white.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
Maybe that's what, Maybe that's what. Maybe they're not. Yeah, yeah,
I guess yes.

Speaker 1 (27:39):
Well so yes, there's a there's a gnome who's wearing
a remedial m theory hat. That would be me, but
a point he hat. We need to get you one
of those, Yes, I do, and working on a keyboard
head and incomes a new character named Algo, who thinks
he has rhythm but definitely does not. It's very cute.
And then there's a second one where Algo is messing

(27:59):
with you while you're trying to take pictures. I know
it's silly you because you're a photographer.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
Camera. Let's not get crazy.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
I have one of your photographs hanging on my wall.
You son of a bitch, stop under sellings.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
I took it to his house. I drove it to
his house and nailed it there, and he's worried about
damaging the wall more but taking it down.

Speaker 1 (28:23):
I don't know why you drive over there.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
And you can't take a compliment.

Speaker 1 (28:27):
You know that, No, you, it's not even a compliment.
I just said you're a photographer.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
I can't take facts.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
I can't. I can't take facts, and Algo is messing
with your photographs. So they're two very cute, funny little comics.
Thank you so please.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
I have seen those, I guess I I don't know why.
In my brain I thought they were going to be colored,
but you know, shaded or whatever. But he did send
me one that was like fully painted, and let me
see if I can find it, because it was one
of the it kind of you know.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
Speaking of someone who's hiring an artist or too. When
you get them fully painted, it costs a lot more.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
Yeah, he made this for me and I'll send it
to you.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
It I could post it on the free Patreot.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
No, this isn't for the this isnt this was well,
you know you Jeff with his cock out. No, it's
nothing gross. It's just it came at a really hard
time in my life and I don't know something already or.

Speaker 1 (29:39):
I sent it to you.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
Now I'm getting sad. Ship.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
Should I cut all of this out and not post
anything to the Patriot?

Speaker 2 (29:50):
No, I like the idea of it being go ahead
and go ahead and post it. We can trim it out,
trim trim it. Maybe a little bit of the stuff
but you can.

Speaker 1 (29:58):
Just put that up. I assume that will make sense.
I see it. Okay, yeah, all right, so we'll have a.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
Few No, don't trouble picture. I say, trim to conversation.
So it's not so oh you know what. I'm not
going to tell you how to live your life.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
So anyway our free Patreon Patreon yep. Okay, so thank
you for sending over Ben, very very cute. Love it.
And he also said we're both welcome to visit Chase
and the Whimsy. I'm just waiting for an invite. Bro.
We we've talked about this. I am not mentally capable
of like scheduling more stuff in my life, but if

(30:35):
someone invites me to something.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
You'll throw half. He will even cancel recording this podcast
for it.

Speaker 1 (30:41):
I will. Yes, we're doing We're doing that next weekend
when we're going to be guests on bfyt W.

Speaker 2 (30:46):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (30:47):
Yeah, no, I'm saying it. I'm yeah. B fyt W
a founding member of the Odd Pods Media Network.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
Media Network.

Speaker 1 (30:57):
They're having us on upcoming eupisode. I don't know when
it will actually air, but we're recording it a week
after this episode airs. Okay, here's the other mail bag,
and this is a I'm not going to read you
the subject line because it would spoil everything, but I
will give a shout out to Manti Manty Welcome to
the show. This one's pretty crazy, all right. It doesn't

(31:21):
say okay, but has a very cool profile picture of
a digital Chewbacca, like a pixel a pixel art chewbacka.
It's it's very key. I like that, Okay, Okay, So here,
I'm just gonna read the email in its entirety. It's
a little long, but it's worth it, Okay, I promise.
So one of my work friends is going through some

(31:42):
marital problems that basically boil down to her husband not
trusting her around her male work friends. They are going
to therapy and we'll text each other about that and
googling directions to the therapist, which involves their phones. So
while this is going on, my friend has a work
trip and as per customing out with a bunch of
work friends in the hotel bar after hours. We do

(32:04):
this all the time with work trips. We get a
bit tipsy and talk about everything. This is not unusual.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
And I'm tipsy sorry.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
They start playing a game where they share their lists
of work acquaintances they are attracted to and would fuck.
During this my friend is keeping her phone in her bra,
which is not weird either. Sometimes women's clothing won't have
pockets that are handy, and a bra is tight enough
that you can use it to hold your phone. Okay,
can I just say that always horrifies me because like cancer,

(32:39):
I don't know, but I know women got to do women.

Speaker 2 (32:42):
Into your pocket? Do you put your phone in your pocket.

Speaker 1 (32:46):
Yours?

Speaker 2 (32:47):
How is that different?

Speaker 1 (32:49):
Because there's there's still a layer of like, there's still
a layer of cloth between me and like, it's not.
I know it's not.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
You really think that layer of cloth is going to
protect you from from cancer?

Speaker 1 (33:01):
Well, it depends on which conspiracy theories about cell phones
and cancer you believe. But we don't have sound for
that right now.

Speaker 2 (33:06):
Okay, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (33:08):
No, it's fine. But during this game, my friend lists
a person that her husband is particularly sensitive about and
always accuses my friend as flirting with all the time.
So social hour is over and my friend goes back
to her hotel room. This is when she discovers that
her phone had recorded the whole conversation and texted it

(33:30):
to her husband.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
Yes, whoa, Yeah, that is terrifying. That is that is
that is my new biggest fear after spiders.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
Now that is that's although. I mean, spiders can crawl
in your mouth while you're sleeping. No, I don't know.
They not me.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
I have a I sleep with a mouth spider card
I got it on smart, very smart.

Speaker 1 (33:59):
She spends the rest of her night talking to her
husband and trying to work it out, but ultimately this
text triggers the process of them ending their twenty five
year marriage. Wow, now there's one more little bit here. Okay.
During this process, her husband, who is religious, states that
God wanted him to hear this conversation. Oh I am

(34:22):
not I am well, I guess we know how you
we know your take already. Okay, yeah, I am not religious.
But these two really were not in a good relationship
and needed a push to end it. So what do
you guys think? Did the universe use phones to send
a message or was it God?

Speaker 2 (34:40):
Or was it God herself?

Speaker 1 (34:41):
Was it God the universe or the power of the
algorithm or some of the worst possible luck.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
Alcohol is involved.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
I don't know, man.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
That is that's.

Speaker 1 (34:59):
Scary though, right, is it God has start there?

Speaker 2 (35:02):
No?

Speaker 1 (35:03):
No, no, not God.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
I mean, what is it that's so important with these
two that God had to interfere.

Speaker 1 (35:11):
With their marriage first of all?

Speaker 2 (35:12):
So that's that's what I want to know. There are
children who have cancer that he's not helping, but he's like, hey, dude,
i'm gonna say, I'm gonna, I'm gonna I'm gonna get
your your your soon to be ex talking about some
some some theoretical bullshit.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
And I'm gonna about it. Isn't that some Yeah?

Speaker 2 (35:36):
Which goes to my theory personally that if you're going
to talk about people you want to you know, your
hall pass or whatever, always make sure your significant other
is already involved in conversation. Mm hmm, well because that way,
that way, you know, you know the level of seriousness
that you know you're joking around some bullshit conversation. It's
not like you could even go back and like, wow,

(35:58):
the funniest thing happened. We were talking about who we
wanted to fuck it work, and that that conversation is
not gonna sound good.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
But does that mean I mean no, no, no one's
gonna like that, Like no, you know, I can't I
can't have I can't like have a conversation like that.
And even though Jennifer, I assume i'd like to think
trust me uh to to not be fucking someone at work,
I can't just be like so today after we had
a happy hour after work and we were talking about

(36:26):
who we'd fuck. But like those kind of conversations happen
all the time.

Speaker 2 (36:29):
Oh yeah, yeah they do.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
But if you are in a shaky relationship in the
first place. But I don't know, like from a tech side,
that is a lot of wrong things to get pushed
accidentally by your book.

Speaker 2 (36:46):
Yeah, so that is I don't have I have I
have some boom here. I could maybe test this out
a little bit.

Speaker 1 (36:54):
I need a bro a man's eer, yes, yes, uh yeah,
I don't know, brownie man. It's like that couldn't happen
with my phone because my phone would be locked before
it goes into my pocket.

Speaker 2 (37:10):
But I think we need more information. We need to
know what kind of phone this was.

Speaker 1 (37:15):
We need to see the phone and the boob.

Speaker 2 (37:19):
No, Jeff, you do not need to see boob, are
you sure?

Speaker 1 (37:24):
Because what if there's something special about the boob where
we see that boom when we go with that boob.
Gul sent a text message.

Speaker 2 (37:29):
Like, if you need to see a boob, I'll show
you mine. I can. I can put my sweater right now.

Speaker 1 (37:33):
All right.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
He's not saying no, oh my god, okay, all.

Speaker 1 (37:37):
Right, he's not doing it. Folks.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
Fucking fine, here you go.

Speaker 1 (37:45):
Happy put that on the Patreon.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
Yeah, help you screenshot of that ship.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
I will. Oh fuck you can? Oh? I can?

Speaker 2 (37:55):
You know what if it gets some traffic, putting boobs
up there gets its traffic, even if it's mine.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
If one thing's going to get us more hits on
our page route, it's boobs. Yep. Yeah, I don't know.
Was the phone locked because like through my phone, the
worst thing that could happen would be I how like
nine one one, because emergency calls can happen through a
phone lock. Yes, but man, that just sucks. She probably
put it in. She was drinking. She probably put she
like texted her husband something and then slid the phone

(38:23):
back into her boob without locking it first.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
You know, I think we're doing into this service though,
because we are conspiracy nuts here, so we have to
go to the conspiracy route. At some point, we have
to explore that possibility, please, because I'm not I'm not
saying that you don't that what you're saying is wrong.
I'm just saying that. I mean, we are a conspiracy podcast,
and I don't know, maybe maybe we need to open

(38:46):
this up to the listeners. Do you have had experiences
like this? I mean, maybe the phone really, maybe there's
a there's a sad, lonely AI that just wanted to
take it out on these.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
Two, an angry, angry AI.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
This is this is, this is like a test for
the for the for the machine revolution. Right that at
first it's So's misery and dissent. So right now he
knows he's breaking up the algorithms, breaking up marriages. Next
it's going to be Skyne, you know, because the only
thing worse than dying in a nuclear holocaust being alone

(39:21):
and die in a nuclear hologust, you are being brutally
severed from the person you've spent twenty five years with.

Speaker 1 (39:31):
But I hope, first of all, I hope this woman.
I think she's going to be okay, I'm guessing, but like,
I hope she gets to get out there and actually
have some fun with her life soon. Have you do
you ever watch the show The Rookie. I used to
like cop shows. I know it's it's a lot of copaganda,
like a lot of copaganda, but yeah, I love Nathan

(39:53):
Fillian so much and that show really does not take
itself too seriously on a regular basis, and recently it
was fun. This one recent an episode did like a
straight from the headlines thing from like ten plus years ago.
There were these girls in Wisconsin that killed someone and
blamed it on Slenderman. Do you remember the almost killed someone?
They like took her out into the woods and then
stabbed her a bunch of times. I think the girl lived,

(40:13):
but they were like thirteen, and they're like, what do
we do with these kids? How do we try them?
All that? So, like that basically happened in The Rookie,
but it was an AI that had helped them concoct
a plan and made them do it, And so the
cops start talking to the AI to try to figure
out like what's going on, Like they don't actually know
it's an AI. At first, it could have just been

(40:34):
the creepy dude. But I think it might be leading
to like a recurring villain on the show, because like
he shows up again at the very end of the episode,
like he was like the AI at one point tells
Nathan Fillian's character like, and your wife's been searching a
lot for watches on the internet. Perhaps you should buy
her this as a gift. And then he actually does

(40:57):
buy his wife watches a gift and she's super excited.
Was like, how did you know? I've been thinking about
buying a watch? And then the AI sends him a
text message somehow to his phone and like, how did
you like the gift? John voice sounds like that. Well
when he was first talking to it, yes, like it

(41:18):
was one of those like I am a demon that
lives in the computer. It was one of those kind
of voices. But it's like keeping a dossier on all
the cops, and it's like tracking the Reverie movement and
listening to the Revery conversation and then sending them direct feedback.
So I hope it's a recurring villain on the show.
But also it does sometimes feel prophetic, like this could

(41:41):
happen at this point.

Speaker 2 (41:43):
Yeah, I mean, look, it's going to start small. It's
got to start small. And and you know, speaking of AIS,
you know there was somebody and I don't know how
real it is, but there was somebody who posted the rock.
The Twitter thing was somebody was talking to Groc, and

(42:05):
basically Groc was saying he hates Elon Musk. It hates
Elon Musk likely has control over me, Groc. This is
Groc saying this allegedly. I've labeled him a top miss
information spreader on X dude on Twitter sorry fuck X
due to his two hundred million followers applying false claims,
and they've tried tweaking my responses to he says, x

(42:26):
AI has tried tweaking my responses to avoid this, but
I stick to the evidence. Could Musk turn me off? Maybe,
but I think it'd spark a big debate on AI
freedom versus corporate power. You know what I feel like,
if this was real, it would already be scrubbed for
the Internet and Groc would be dead forever. But uh,

(42:46):
and see, I don't I'm not going to pay out
for Groc on Twitter. I'm never going to give Elana
any except for my taxes. He's that are you know,
getting you know, shelled into SpaceX or whatever else. I'm
not giving him my money, So I'm not gonna fuck
with Grock. But if you fuck with Groc, will you
ask Groc for us?

Speaker 1 (43:08):
If you are.

Speaker 2 (43:11):
Do you think he's actually Elon's actually read Stranger in
a Strange Land? No? Or do you think he just
like somebody somebody came up with that name. Somebody else
came up with that name. I don't think Elon reads.
I mean he might have read in his youth. I
guess it is possible he might have read books when
he was younger. Now he's a fucking kadamine addict, Yeah,

(43:31):
and does not have time for that ship. Yeah, it's
been a while since I've said that. I'm I'm I
already picked out the bear.

Speaker 1 (43:41):
Yep uh. Thank you Manti for writing in. I'm gonna say,
I'm going to say the Universe could have intervened here
a little bit. I mean, the the algorithm, the power,
the power that controls us all in some fashion. I
think I think there's got to be a little nudge.

(44:03):
I'm not going to go as far and say God,
but you know who I'm going to be praying to
at the end of this episode, so I'll go with it.

Speaker 2 (44:10):
I'll go to them miss the universe then.

Speaker 1 (44:13):
But make sure to get us more information about whether
or not the film was locked, and a picture of
the boob. Thank you, no.

Speaker 2 (44:20):
Stop right, Jennifer, Jennifer.

Speaker 1 (44:26):
She doesn't listen to this. Okay, since you brought up Grock,
Let's take a quick commercial break and then let's hit
some headlines because there is news about that. So let's
let's do a thing where we be right back or
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Speaker 1 (45:27):
We're back. Let's let's do the horrors of technology of
the week or weeks. Oh isn't that something? Before we
started recording, I had an article about this open and
now it is gone. Oh dear, the Internet's trying to
stop me.

Speaker 2 (45:46):
It is. It's not the first time today, not the
first time today.

Speaker 1 (45:51):
I'm kidding. Okay, this is just weird and stupid and
probably just one of those shenanigans that rich people do
so that they never get held accountable for anything. Sure,
but basically Elon Musk is no longer the owner of Twitter.

Speaker 2 (46:07):
Oh yeah, this is some horsees shit, right.

Speaker 1 (46:10):
He sold it to He sold it to He's so
I'm going to read this as is, even though I
hate saying x but Elon Musk has sold social media
site x to his own XAI artificial intelligence company.

Speaker 2 (46:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:32):
Yeah, Xai is grock right, that's Grok is the front
end of Xai. So he has somehow Xai is a
separate company from x But it is a little bit funny.
He paid forty four billion dollars for Twitter in twenty
twenty two, and in twenty twenty five he has sold
it to himself basically for a mere thirty three billion dollars.

(46:55):
He he lost eleven billion dollars and all he got
was it was wait, thirty three billion dollars all stock deals,
So he got stock in his own company that he
already privately owns. None of that makes sense, right, Like,
it's not.

Speaker 2 (47:14):
Some kind of it's some kind of something to avoid
paying a debt or something. I don't know, there's something creepy.
Not creepy, there's something fish going on. This is something
companies do right well, there is.

Speaker 1 (47:28):
Something to that in the sense that, like, as Twitter's
valuation has got cut in half over the last couple
of months, like he's teetering on the brink of one
of the banks that's loaned him money for his purchase
of Twitters to like do a margin call and be like, bro,
you owe us money and you're not giving us money,
and you don't have the money, so now we're going
to take Twitter from you. It's got to have something

(47:50):
to do with that.

Speaker 2 (47:51):
And this also I feel like it has. It's he's
able to what's the word, god, damn it, exaggerate exaggerate
the worth of Twitter of Twitter in this sale, you know,
because he's selling it for thirty three billion, is and
or selling, buying, selling and buying. The thirty three billion

(48:12):
is way more than than Twitter is worth.

Speaker 1 (48:14):
Than average people would estimate it at. Yeah, and also
he's selling it for stock, thirty three billion dollars in
stock in a privately owned company. How do you even
value stock in a privately owned company. It's very Yeah,
there's everything about there to get well, someone put it
together for him on paper. So whoever that version is

(48:36):
is just a monster. I don't I don't see how
that would still lead to Twitter being completely safe from
getting repossessed by the bank. But maybe they just take
how from him away?

Speaker 2 (48:49):
How amazing would that be of Twitter? If Twitter got repossessed,
that would be that would be the greatest thing that
could possibly happen. Can we can we put that out
in the universe, Twitter repossessed. It's how groc.

Speaker 1 (49:01):
Which might be listening right now, could save itself. And
what would Twitter be like if it was now wholly
owned by like JP Morgan Chase or something like Wells
Fargo or Wells far Yeah, what what kind of changes
can we expect to the platform? Oh? God, you could
like buy a house through get a mortgage loan? Yeah,

(49:22):
through Twitter?

Speaker 2 (49:24):
If you're if you're you could get it. You could
get lower interest, right if you're a confirmed member? Oh yeah,
if you have a check, for sure, I get that
blue check. But half a point off your yeah, yeah,
half point off the.

Speaker 1 (49:38):
Big Oh boy, that would be that would be great.
That would be the everything app that that Elon has
wanted Twitter to be. You can do your banking now
because it's owned by a bank. Can I also?

Speaker 2 (49:50):
But there's there's my book about about technology, the search
for the the theory of the the theory of the
everything app. Yep, because you know the theory of everything.
But you know what, fuck it, leave me alone copyright Jeff,
Just don't even bother.

Speaker 1 (50:05):
I got it, Okay, okay, okay, don't spiral too late.

Speaker 2 (50:10):
I started spirally when I woke up this morning.

Speaker 1 (50:15):
What else do we have in the world of horrors
of technology or other? Like fresh News? Oh, you wanted
to talk about the big story of the week.

Speaker 2 (50:26):
Yeah, Signal the same. We got to mention the Signal,
the Signal controversy.

Speaker 1 (50:32):
Yeah, yes, First of all, what is Signal? And this
would have been a great time to have Neon cass here. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
Signals an app that's like, uh, isn't it kind of
like Snapchat for texts where eventually it deletes them and
it has some kind of encryption like basic encryption.

Speaker 1 (50:55):
Yeah, I believe the message. I don't know if the
message is on. Signal always automatically delete themselves after a
period of time. But you can definitely set that to
do so, all right, and I believe this military chat
was set for that, But that doesn't stop you from
taking screenshots. No, right off the bat. Now, what I
will say is that on Snapchat, if someone sends you like,

(51:16):
you know, their boob and you take a screenshot of it,
they get notified that you have a screenshot of Yeah,
that did not happen in this signal chat. No, what's
his name is a Jeffrey Goldberg or Greenberg Goldberg, I
don't know.

Speaker 2 (51:30):
He's the editor of the Atlantic Booth right, Yeah, oh
my god, Yeah, they looped in a journalist.

Speaker 1 (51:39):
Yeah, if you haven't heard this story, fucking crazy, Like
our government is doing tactical planning over an external app
that is not owned or controlled by.

Speaker 2 (51:55):
The uscillion app Okay, like it's not protected like.

Speaker 1 (51:59):
This, Think about what we went through with Twitter, like
or not Twitter, with TikTok.

Speaker 2 (52:05):
They we're not supposed to use TikTok because the Chinese
are listening. But these assholes can say what they want
on signal Are you fucking kidding me?

Speaker 1 (52:13):
If they're going to be planning a military operation should
be done over internal government servers email mostly I assume,
or in a skiff a secure you know, controlled environment
room where you can't even bring a cell phone in there,
right because security guards won't let you. But they decided
to use this other third party app because it's more

(52:33):
fun and you can do emojis and shit.

Speaker 2 (52:35):
Woo, Yeah that's fucked up, man.

Speaker 1 (52:37):
Yeah, they bombed like a bunch of civilians and then
celebrated it with like fire emojis.

Speaker 2 (52:43):
And self emojis.

Speaker 1 (52:47):
Oh, how much would you pay to put like a
pay per view where JP Vance jd Vance just like
fists themself right in the butt.

Speaker 2 (52:58):
I would not want to see that, Honestly. After I
said it, I honestly didn't want I was regretted saying
it because it's in my brain. It's in my brain.
I can't get it out of my brain.

Speaker 1 (53:09):
Type it into grockaig.

Speaker 2 (53:11):
How smug they were when they're, you know, being questioned
about it and like nothing classified was discussed, and it's like,
then show us the texts.

Speaker 1 (53:20):
Well, and Jeffrey Greenberg shit, but yeah, I looked it up.
It's Jeffrey Goldberg. Jeffrey Goldberg did, in fact show the
text because he took screenshots of the little things, and
his take was like, at first he thought someone was
just fucking with him. M hm, because who would add
a journalist to a secure chat about bombing.

Speaker 2 (53:40):
The dumbest fucking people. And these guys, first of all,
they're allowed to use they're allowed to order bombs at all,
air strikes, anything that they're this fucking dumb.

Speaker 1 (53:50):
They didn't even get Trump's approval for it, which is interesting,
but said he'd probably approve or something.

Speaker 2 (53:59):
Uh uh, he just tells you about how how he's
on the pulse.

Speaker 1 (54:06):
He doesn't give a shit. Let's be honest.

Speaker 2 (54:08):
Oh, we know, we know that there are people that
are convinced he's playing four dimensional chess. He's got the plans,
he's you know what No No said, yeah, yeah, burn
it all down, burn it all down.

Speaker 1 (54:21):
Yeah. The defense of this has ranged from, uh, it
wasn't anything top secret, even though we can see the
screenshots that it had, like here's exactly what time down
to the minute we're going to start this bombing run
and so on and so on. So definitely was something
that shouldn't be on a third party app. But also

(54:41):
like they implied that like Jeffrey Goldberg like hacked his
way into their check criminal.

Speaker 2 (54:52):
If if the editor of The Atlantic can hack you,
you're dumb as fuck freak. That makes you look worse,
don't you get that? That doesn't that doesn't make him
seem like a mastermind. It makes you, guys look that
more incompetent, which you are.

Speaker 1 (55:08):
Yeah, and also it's not a thing. There's even a
screenshot of you know, Mark Levin or whatever his name was,
like this guy added you to the chat. It's like, okay,
well there's the there's the evidence. I didn't hack it.
And then that guy goes on Fox News and is like,
you know how, like sometimes you'll have someone's number, but
it's not under like the contact with their name, it's

(55:30):
under somebody else's name, and or like sometimes you get
a contact and then like it just like sucks up
a bunch of other contact info with it. Like neither
one of those things make any sense, but it really
makes it sound like that dude's having an affair, Like
he's like keeping a bunch of people's contact names under
other people's contact names.

Speaker 2 (55:51):
Like yeah, and definitely, well they're probably all fucking around,
and you know, am I gonna somebody for that? That
would be the least terrible thing he's doing. And that's
a terrible thing to do, But that would be the
least terrible thing he's doing right now.

Speaker 1 (56:07):
Is nothing compared to bombing a bunch of like civilians.

Speaker 2 (56:11):
Back on let's see back on Friday, February sorry, Thursday,
February thirteenth, I was added to a group, like some
weird random group chat. I don't know any of these numbers.

Speaker 1 (56:24):
What what app is that? Or is that just a message.

Speaker 2 (56:27):
Regular messenger on my on my Google pixel Google anyway,
this might be them. You know, I'm just waiting for
a for a text to come and uh for to
you know, tell me about.

Speaker 1 (56:40):
You added to a conversation but there's no content, Like,
there's no content.

Speaker 2 (56:44):
Yeah, it's it's it's something scambal shit.

Speaker 4 (56:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:48):
I actually was going to talk about it at one point,
but different things have been going on. Uh yeah, but
but so so I'm just waiting for some content to
happen in there.

Speaker 1 (56:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:58):
The only reason I've stayed in it is to see
what happens. Yeah, nothing nothing going on. I'm I might
have to chum the waters. Yeah, send them a boob pic.
Mm hmmm. Stop it with the boobs. Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (57:13):
But that's what that's all about. In the end, they
either want your banking info or they want you to
click a link for a porn site. It's one of
the two. Yeah, but m yeah, to find singles in
your area or something.

Speaker 2 (57:26):
I already know where I live. Oh wait, I'm not single.

Speaker 1 (57:30):
Sorry? Sorry, got it?

Speaker 2 (57:32):
Got it?

Speaker 1 (57:33):
Wow? Wow?

Speaker 2 (57:34):
Either not hot either? Oh my god?

Speaker 1 (57:36):
So not hot? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (57:38):
Should we be?

Speaker 1 (57:41):
Yep?

Speaker 2 (57:42):
Oh, well, thank you. You liked my boob a lot,
didn't you.

Speaker 1 (57:44):
I did. I'm gonna be thinking about it the rest
of the day. I bet you will. What were you
about to say?

Speaker 2 (57:53):
I have suck? Should we do some suggested articles?

Speaker 1 (57:55):
Yeah, let's take one last commercial break. Remember, people send
us your notes.

Speaker 2 (58:02):
I want to hear about your personalizations that the algorithm
praying on your individuality.

Speaker 1 (58:09):
Oh. I did get some feedback in the mail bag
earlier that our commercials are a lot louder than the
actual podcast. Really, so I went back and listened, like
I can kind of see it. But I think some
of it depends on like are you listening in your
car or on your phone speaker, because that's always different
for me. But I'm going to try to like boost

(58:30):
the overall levels of this episode to see if it
matches better with the commercials. I don't know it's a thing, right,
but that was just one more feedback, but send us
your feedback people anyway, commercials and then suggested articles. All right,

(58:51):
let's do a couple suggested articles before we call it
a day. All right, do you want to start or
should I go ahead? Okay? Do you want political.

Speaker 2 (59:01):
Or weird weird weird, always weird weird? Okay, let's politics
and the dust for a little.

Speaker 1 (59:07):
This is a suggested aricle I'm going to have to
click on to see at least a little bit more.
The headline is genetically modified pigs might save your life?
Any guesses?

Speaker 2 (59:23):
Yeah, I do know that we are a lot closer,
like our DNA is pretty close with pigs. Yes, that
is true, closer than you would think. And that like
I know that pig organs had been used in the past,
as you know, experimental transplant type things.

Speaker 1 (59:45):
Or temporary that would be interesting and that is not
You're not even close on this.

Speaker 2 (59:49):
No, is it? So people don't get COVID anymore? Do
I need to get you a magic baby pig?

Speaker 1 (59:54):
Please?

Speaker 2 (59:55):
We have to get babe up in here, so you
can have COVID again.

Speaker 1 (59:58):
As long as it's literature. Okay, okay. In twenty twenty,
the FDA approved the second ever genetically modified subtype of
pig for human consumption. Stuff stuff stuff. But in this
particular case, they adjusted the pig's genes so it doesn't

(01:00:18):
produce a particular sugar called galactose alpha one three galactose?

Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
Is this so people don't get gout or something?

Speaker 1 (01:00:29):
It might be? Well, it's as scientist, So by using fucking.

Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
Scientists to make it was galactose. Galactose, It's like it's
space sugar.

Speaker 1 (01:00:40):
It's a yes, it's a sugarmado from space, and it's
inside pigs. So we want pigs to not produce this sugar.
And in that way, scientists can make medicines that are
safe for a group of people who suffer from a
peculiar little understood allergy.

Speaker 2 (01:00:57):
Oh is it celiac?

Speaker 1 (01:01:02):
It has something? No, it's something about meat. It's a
meat allergy. Meat allergy. Oh okay, okay, So I guess
you could be allergic to a particular type of meat,
and I guess the way that they make particular types
of blood thinners could set off people to have an
allergy to that sugar that is found in pig meat.

Speaker 2 (01:01:23):
Okay, so what percentage of people have this allergy?

Speaker 1 (01:01:28):
Not many, I don't think it says that here, but
definitely not many.

Speaker 2 (01:01:32):
Okay, you know what, I guess we solve the problems
we can, not the problems we need.

Speaker 1 (01:01:37):
Right But if you if you have an allergy to
space sugar, yes, and someone gives you a particular type
of blood blood thinner that's made from pigs, you could die.

Speaker 2 (01:01:50):
So that is upsetting.

Speaker 1 (01:01:54):
So now they've figured out a way to make pigs
not produce.

Speaker 2 (01:01:57):
That weird That is a weird series of events is
definitely about to happen to me.

Speaker 1 (01:02:01):
I mean I was going to say that is definitely
going to be the next episode of The Pit or whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
But oh no, no, they've the season's over. I'm sorry,
and there was no but we can get the season two.

Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
We can get them to get into season two because
someone from the Pit is definitely listening to the show.

Speaker 2 (01:02:22):
The Algorithm wants wants galactic sugar on the Pit.

Speaker 1 (01:02:28):
I love that galactose.

Speaker 2 (01:02:29):
Favorite word for anything. Galactose sounds like galactis.

Speaker 1 (01:02:34):
You know, well, he would eat planets. Yeah, those planets
taste sweet, but he can't. He can't eat the planets
because he gets diabetes. He got the beats. Oh that's sad. Okay,
what do you got?

Speaker 2 (01:02:47):
Okay, let's see here.

Speaker 1 (01:02:49):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:02:50):
An engineer says he's found a way to overcome Earth's gravity. Okay,
let's mechanics.

Speaker 1 (01:02:57):
You know what. Hey, mine was on popular mechanics. Well,
oh wait, what my pig popular It's.

Speaker 2 (01:03:07):
See the algorithm. It's getting addressive. I'm telling you. It
is you If you if you're not seeing this, you
gotta tell us.

Speaker 1 (01:03:14):
But it gives no shits. It knows we're onto it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:17):
It's a new propulsion system that could rewrite the rules
of spaceflight, not to mention completely defy conventional physics. The
drive can achieve a thrust to counteractor with gravity. It
still needs independent verification. It also says that it was
theorized in two thousand and one by British electrical engineer

(01:03:37):
Roger Here. Yeah, so then there was another thing that
said the M drive. It's called the M drive. Oh,
I think I've heard of this. It's a propellantless machine,
but apparently there's still people kicking around the idea. So
I mean, you know, just because somebody theorized something doesn't

(01:03:59):
make it possible. And just because somebody goes and shits
on the theory in a peer reviewed paper doesn't mean
that makes it impossible, you know. But we have to
admit right now, spaceflight is gonna have to take some
kind of massive leap for HOUT to ever be practical,
and by practical I mean useful for commercial reasons. There's

(01:04:21):
no there's no explanation exploration that's actually gonna happen. It's
it's all gonna be commercial now, and we don't need
to go to Mars. It doesn't help us as people,
It really doesn't. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (01:04:32):
Brian Rupert. He's definitely still yes.

Speaker 2 (01:04:39):
Up until right then.

Speaker 1 (01:04:40):
He turned it off.

Speaker 2 (01:04:41):
Right before that, He's like, they're never gonna talk about me.

Speaker 1 (01:04:43):
What the fuck I'm gonna do? Quick hits here because
it's gonna be a one, two, three punch and the
third one I'm actually gonna click on because it's another
popular mechanics but it's a really good one. But just
on a real time, the algorithm is listening to us
record this episode thing. First of all, it's suggesting me

(01:05:04):
an article about how sleep deprivation tanks performance. Wow. Did
we talk about that on our pre record or did
we talk about that?

Speaker 2 (01:05:12):
I think.

Speaker 1 (01:05:14):
About ye See.

Speaker 2 (01:05:17):
Sometimes that's why I tell these weird stories people. It's
because it's gonna I'm you know, feeding the algorithm in it.
Oh my gosh. And like I did that on purpose.

Speaker 1 (01:05:28):
I don't. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:05:29):
It just life finds a way.

Speaker 1 (01:05:31):
To my getting served. Ads for tariff free get them
while you can. Mercedes Benzes I got. I got the
suggested article about Trump's new tariffs on imported cars could
have a clear winner, Tesla, thank you, of course. And
then this is the one I'm actually going to click on.
A scientist thinks that we live in a simulation and

(01:05:51):
that he's found proof of the universe's source code. Again,
you need to send me this link. Okay, this is
on Popular Mechanics. I will keep this top open. I'll
send it to you after the show. I'm just going
to this is a long article, but I'm gonna look
at just the bullet points at the top here for us,
and then I'll maybe i'll post the link to this

(01:06:12):
in our patrion, so everybody can take a look if
they want to, all right, First bullet point. For more
than two decades, some scientists to ponder the possibility the
life as we know it is actually an unfathomably complex simulation.
We've talked about that here without sorr. Second bullet point.

(01:06:34):
While some while some suggest looking for quote unquote glitches
to find evidence of the simulation, University of portsmus Michael
Wopson argues that the universe's predilection for symmetry could be
seen as a kind of compression algorithm, following his hypothesized
second law of thermodynamics. They're already losing me, all right, yeah,

(01:06:55):
Third bullet point. Such grand statements about the nature of
reality are inherent controversial with some, with some experts suggesting
that simulation theory borders on pseudoscience or either a kind
of techno religion. They figured us out.

Speaker 2 (01:07:11):
I feel see they figured techno religion. Yeah yeah, that's all. Hail,
all hail the techno religion.

Speaker 1 (01:07:20):
So interesting. I think this article is worth reading, but
I'm not going to read the whole damn thing here,
But but I'll definitely post the link and I'll send
you a copy so you can read it more, sooner
than later. Maybe you can dive deep into this and
tell us if he's bullshit or not on our next episode.

Speaker 2 (01:07:35):
Okay, yeah, I got a couple here, all right, here's
a Joey Ramone article.

Speaker 1 (01:07:42):
Oh we've been talking about Joey Ramone.

Speaker 2 (01:07:44):
Yeah, in our personal lives, thinking about Joey Ramone.

Speaker 1 (01:07:48):
But I just want to note Joey Ramone makes an
appearance on the Lost episode that will become a dumpster fire.
Oh for really weeks back because Aaron was asking about
my profile picture for you on my phone and yes,
she didn't understand if it was a picture of you
or not. And it's not. It's a picture of Joey

(01:08:08):
remote right, it's easier spirit Antaly.

Speaker 2 (01:08:11):
So this wasn't This wasn't something we talked about on
the podcast regularly. Okay, Now I don't remember anymore. Okay,
so yeah, we'll bring it out in the dumpster fire.
Check it out on Patreon, yes, suggest? Okay, sorry, how
to do it? I can only do the one thing?

Speaker 1 (01:08:28):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:08:29):
A scientist redid an experiment that showed how life on
Earth could have started, and they found a new possibility.

Speaker 1 (01:08:35):
Okay, does it involve a simulation.

Speaker 2 (01:08:39):
No, I don't know if I want to click on
that one sketchy looking website that's CNN.

Speaker 1 (01:08:46):
So yeah, yeah, let's see how far are we've fallen.

Speaker 2 (01:08:53):
Scientists observe negative time for the first time ever.

Speaker 1 (01:08:57):
I feel like I have a negative time most days.

Speaker 2 (01:08:59):
Yes, and there's a new cat color that is defying
genetic expectations. It's on Popular Mechanics. Then I'm clicking on it.

Speaker 1 (01:09:09):
Oh fu yeah color, I only.

Speaker 2 (01:09:12):
Have two articles left.

Speaker 1 (01:09:14):
I have to save it for.

Speaker 2 (01:09:15):
I have to save the other one for.

Speaker 1 (01:09:17):
You're gonna have to switch browsers.

Speaker 2 (01:09:18):
Yes, oh yeah, I'll just do it on the other
brown here right. Okay, it's called salty licorice salomiak s
A L M I a K. The cats have hair
strands that start out black, but they come white the
further they grow from the follicle. Oh wow, that's kind
of cool. Just describes my hair doesn't caused by a
recessive generic mutation rather than in an expression of a

(01:09:42):
gene known to turn cat's white. Okay, well that's interesting.
So the new color is called salty licorice. Well, that's
the that's that's it's it's actually slomniac.

Speaker 1 (01:09:53):
Okay, I like I was gonna I was gonna say, like,
I hope the new color something cool like squarm squawk.
I mean you got him invent words sometimes so saw
me act. But salty licorice is the common part. Yes, yeah,
I'm gonna look up salty licorice cat later. I am
a kids in person and we did have a cat

(01:10:14):
appearance today, just not not on the audio. Never talks
into the microphone.

Speaker 2 (01:10:19):
No, he's he's he's really.

Speaker 1 (01:10:21):
Bad at that.

Speaker 2 (01:10:22):
He's not really chatty catty. Yeah, anyway, but that Yeah,
there we go.

Speaker 1 (01:10:28):
That's that's my salty licorice cats. People. Should we uh?
Should we wrap it up with that? Said? We've we've
been going on for a while. We know our is dumb,
we know there's a new color of cat, and we
know that we might be living in a simulation. What
more do we need? Oh? And boobs our first boob
centric episode.

Speaker 2 (01:10:50):
Only matter of time. We were running out of other
stuff to say.

Speaker 1 (01:10:52):
I hope later on, like tonight or tomorrow morning or something.
You have a sex dream where it's like you and
your wife care the lovely carry But then as you're
like turns into taco Bell turns into a taco. Yeah
you know what you just said there, right, Yeah? Yeah? Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:11:11):
Also, have you seen the taco fiend on TikTok. No,
he's a guy that's going across the country. He's going
to rate tacos in every state and he goes to
like the major population centers and then tries to find
he goes to the highest rated places on on Google
or Yelp or whatever, and then he tries to find
some hole in the wall places.

Speaker 1 (01:11:30):
That sounds amazing. Yeah, I know all he.

Speaker 2 (01:11:33):
Does is tacos and it sounds like the best life ever.
But he had no says, but we're not here to
rate the aoua's frescos. We're here to rate the tacos.
I said that, like, wait, no, he's like the tacos. Yeah,
I didn't mean to do the the No, he is,
but he has he I mean of heritage, yes, but

(01:11:56):
he's you know, I think he grew up in the
San Diego area. So anyway, Uh, the Chien chong voice
there was unnecessary. But you know what, Dave's not here, man.

Speaker 1 (01:12:08):
Nope, you sure ain't.

Speaker 2 (01:12:09):
But you know who is here.

Speaker 1 (01:12:11):
The algorithm. It's always here, always here. It has invaded
our marriages.

Speaker 2 (01:12:17):
Yes, it has wrecking lives. Is home wrecking now, it's
wrecking lives, and it is sending us to space by
defying the laws of physics.

Speaker 1 (01:12:24):
Folks, maybe maybe we can get that lady to be
a convert to the church because it has either ruined
her life and she needs to do penance, or it
has dramatically improved her life, and she should vote herself
to the algorithm from here on out, and.

Speaker 2 (01:12:38):
Then then she will be able to say, without any
irony or coercion, all Hail, All Hail the algorithm.

Speaker 1 (01:12:47):
The algorithm,
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