February 24, 2025 • 17 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, So I don't know if we need to
do the whole.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
No, just come up with a come up with a
just but us into a conversation.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Yeah, okay, yeah, I can.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Play don again and be like, are we doing a
podcast right now?
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Oh? Do you want to keep recording?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
I am recording? Wait what? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (00:17):
I was sorry, I was yesding, see I was ding.
And then I thought we would just we would just
kind of organically but not really get into the update
that I wanted to say, yeah, talk about And of
course we may have to and and part of this
is because I don't know if I'll be able to
record next time, right, so, but this is a very
(00:38):
important update.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
No, we need the important update. Okay, so let's do this,
all right.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
So last time we recorded, you had me block on TikTok, Facebook,
Meta and Instagram. I'll see if it would change my algorithm.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Oh oh yes, Now.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Do you remember what day? What day it was that
we recorded?
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Well, I mean I think it was two weeks ago
from the time we're recording this, So do you know
the exact date.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Was one week ago? One week could go to day
Super Bowl Sunday. We oh yeah, we were got together
early super Bowl Sunday, and Okay, so as soon as
the episode was over, I blocked this stuff. But then
what happened? What happened?
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Well, I mean I got too Well, okay, did your
algorithm immediately change first.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Yes, but not not because of that specifically. Something happened,
something shifted in the zeitgeist.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Did it make you auto follow Donald Trump instead?
Speaker 1 (01:40):
No? Are you not? You're just not on the pulse
on this at all? Is this coming out of completely left?
Speaker 2 (01:46):
When you blocked them? Did it unblock them?
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Okay, you blocked them? Okay, here's the timeline. I'm trying
to I'm trying to talk about something, and you're missing it.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Okay, I am, I am something about.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
So we record, we record early in the morning, right,
because yeah, and then I blocked those things on TikTok right,
and then something happened that's like a massive Okay, then
the super Bowl happened. Okay, did you watch the Super Bowl?
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Sure? Yeah, of course?
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Okay, the halftime show, Oh, Kendrick Lamar. It was like
a cultural moment, and it was and I'm look, I'm
not gonna pretend I understood it all or anything, but
I knew when I was watching, I'm like, something amazing
is happening, you know, and my my algorithm got blasted
immediately all to hell. It is all Kendrick Lamar, and
(02:38):
it is all not like us, and it is all
say Drake, I hear you like them, Yeah, like I have.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
I have. Yeah, So it's not even TikTok anymore.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
It's just no Kendrick Lamar. Kendrick Lamar took over the
algorithm from my perspective. I don't know how it affected you,
but it's not just it's not just TikTok. It's everywhere else.
And it's funny because it only exists for me in
the cyber world right on on the internet. I go
to work and nobody talks about it. You know, I
don't hear anybody talking about it. I don't. I don't
(03:16):
have conversations that get to that point where yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
That's interesting, right right yeah, I okay, So confession, m H.
I know that Kendrick Lamar and Drake have a beef.
I don't know who's I don't know anything about it. Necessarily.
It seemed like I heard enough to know, like Drake
might be kind of a creep, But that's like all
I knew, so I didn't really care about the fact
(03:43):
that these two are beefing with each other. So when
everyone else was getting all excited for the super Bowl
because Kendrick Lamar is going to come out and maybe
say something, who knows, like it could be wild or whatever, Like,
I didn't give a shit. Yeah, So when the super
Bowl halftime show started, I went to go do some
more mm hm. So I did not watch it. I
(04:05):
am racist. I was not being represented on screen.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Well, it wasn't just about it wasn't just about that.
It was it was he did that. His whole performance
was about being black in America and cultural divides and
just amazing symbolism and the you know, the songs he
chose to saying, and how he how he appeared on
(04:31):
the car that was a car he was driven home
from the hospital when he was born in a car
like that. So that's where he started. That's where the
show starts. And I don't know a lot about everything.
Like I said, I'm I'm a white guy from Utah
talking about Kendrick Lamar, but it.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Was in I also didn't give any shits about Katie
Perry or like the Backstreet Boys, like over the decades,
like a lot of Super Bowl halftime shows do not
interest me nor Janet Jackson and Justin Timberlake. Though I
certainly watched the recaps later, I would.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Have blasted the algorithm to hell too. Yes, it would
have might have set us back, yes.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
As could we be set back anymore as a people.
So I didn't watch it, but I have gotten a
fair amount of TikTok content. However, it's been more focused
around the dual lingo owl. Oh yeah, and how dual
Lingo has been shooting on Drake as part of Kendrick's thing.
(05:33):
And then also the dual lingo owl I guess got
assassinated by a cyber truck. Did you see this? It's
like everything we talk about, right.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
It's crazy. Who thought that the dual lingo owl was
going to take us to hard stance? And the Kendrick
Drake beef?
Speaker 2 (05:51):
I definitely did not see that coming here. I was
paying more attention to what Ben and Jerry's has been
putting out on TikTok, and it turns out I should
have been watching a cartoon owl the whole time.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Incidentally, I don't know what flavor Ben and Jerry's put
out that's supposed to be like a political flavor, but
I heard they had something to do in the stores.
It's not where I live. Oh, it's not for me.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
It's not for you. Yeah yeah. And also, to be fair,
the super Bowl halftime show was not for us, me
and you, I mean, except to participate on a level
where we're like, okay, yeah yeah. Things are fucked up
in this country right now. And the most beautiful thing
for me that I've taken from it is there's this
there's this idea that that that people have to be
(06:38):
we have to be better, we have to rise above it.
And maybe that's not what we really need to do.
We just need to be driven to win. That's what
we need to do. We need to be driven to victory.
And the thing that Drake is guilty of is just
not realizing how outmatched he was from the beginning.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
That's fair.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
I mean, if I was going to go against somebody,
I'd probably go down the list and cross off anybody
who hadn't already won a Pulitzer Prize. That's where I
would start, you know.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Okay, wait, wait, wait, I just heard something about that
in a TikTok the other day. It's like, Okay, Drake
was an actor on like Degrassi or something, and meanwhile
Kendrick was like a Grammy winner and something and something
and won a Pulitzer Prize. Yes, isn't that for like journalism?
What did he win a Pulitzer Prize for? No?
Speaker 1 (07:31):
No? I Actually, my dad's friend, Joseph Schwattner was a
composer from the Eastman School of Music who won a
Pilazer Prize for composition. Oh so it's not just about
Oh yeah, so it's not just that. But I think
Bob Dylan won a Pilazer Prize. Did he win it
for poetry? Did he win it for a poetry set
to his twinging guitar? Let's not pretend like we didn't
(07:52):
really know that much about it. So we're going to
do something we rarely do on the show when Aaron's
not around, as we'll google it.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Eh, yeah, googling it right now. Okay, he won a
Pulitzer Prize in twenty eighteen for an album.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
I think it was yeah, for his writing, I suppose.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Okay, what am I thinking of? Is it? I thought
Pulitzer Prize was generally for journalism or is it literally
the Pulitzer Prize for journalism dot dot dot? Like, are
there a bunch of different Pulitzers.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
There might be other Well, clearly, I guess let's look
at that.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
They probably didn't give Dan Rather a Pulitzer Prize for
writing out for.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
That would be amazing if Dan Rather had a hip
hop had a gangster rap album out there somewhere, cultural
appropriation Dan, But.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Still if we ask though, he might do it because
he's kind of awesome.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Now, yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
He's funny.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
So here they are. Here are the categories. Okay, okay,
this is the prizes in twenty twenty four were awarded
in these categories.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Okay, these categories these nuts.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Are you reporting, biography, breaking news reporting, breaking news, photography, commentary, criticism, drama,
editorial writing, explanatory reporting, feature photography, feature writing, fiction, general nonfiction, history,
illustrated reporting and commentary, International reporting, investigative reporting, local reporting,
memoir or autobiography, music, music not music reporting, mind you
(09:20):
not music, poetry, National reporting, Public service.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Yeah, certificate and fifteen thousand dollars in cash. That's very cool.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Yeah. Yeah, his was specifically for music, I'm looking at
the Pulitzer's own website right now. That's a that's a
hell of a thing.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
That is a hell of a thing.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Let's see.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
And if I don't know, it's become a problem because
it's all I want to talk about now. And as Kendrick, yeah,
he's just the farther I go. The more I listen,
the more the more I experienced, the more I'm just like,
that's all I want to talk about. I get mad
when the fact that, you know, he just can't listen
(09:58):
to one song like eight hundred times at work, but
when I listen to other stuff, it just sounds petty
and hollow. I'm just like, I don't care about this shit.
Let's listen to Kendrick some more.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
So.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
I probably heard not like us like a thousand times
since since Sunday.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
But I guess I should start.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
I dance, I do the little walk, I do the
little shuffle around the kitchen.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
You know.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
I can't do the crip walk. That that's not that's
my I don't have the knees for that.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
But yeah, okay, all right, all right, I'm gonna do
my part between now and the next time we record something.
I will I will listen to some Kendrick Lamark. Okay,
all right, It's not like I'm opposed to the concept
of hip hop. I'm well known for my karaoke stylings
on Baby Got Back, so I'm pretty hip.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
That's just that's important.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Yeah, I'm cool. I'm down with the R and B
hip hop genre.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
M m yep hmm.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Yes, I'm a happening due.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
It's come up on the podcast before.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
How cool?
Speaker 1 (11:05):
I No, no, no, it's never come up. How cool
any of us are on the podcast except for maybe
Neon K Chaos for sure. Yeah, but I was gonna
double check in real quick.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
So Neon Chaos actually brought this up in his last
episode where he was talking about how Martin Screlly had
the one and only copy of one of the Wouting album.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Yes, yes, you're right, that is hip hop related. Yes,
none of us will be able to hear that album
unless Martin Screlly decides we.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Can buck Farmer Bros. That's all I have to say.
All right. A federal court seized his assets belonging to him,
including once upon a time in shall Inn so Oh.
The Department of Justice sold it to a NFT collector.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
What ye when I said it was the first time million.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
To cover some of Shcrelly's debts, So you were right
in that sense, it really was. I mean it was,
and then then it was an NFT.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
And like the spirit of the idea of that album
is exactly what NFT has turned out to be. But
then they wound up selling it to an NFT. Guy,
I had no idea.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Okay, Okay, now according to this I don't know, because
it still says the first public exhibition of the album
began in June twenty twenty four at the Museum of
Old and New Art in Hobart, Tasmania. Okay. That month,
Shcrelly live streamed the album on x, triggering a lawsuit,
so I guess he has a copy of it. Still
(12:41):
triggered a lawsuit from the people who own it, and
they began selling partial ownership of the album as an NFT,
with each purchase accelerating the release by eighty eight seconds.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
So the government sees the assets, and that little shithead
had made a backup copy, which I mean, there's nothing
wrong with making a backup copy of one of kind work,
I guess, but you shouldn't get to keep it. Nasty
little bastard. Yeah, he's the real old dirty bastard that
Martin Schcrelly.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Yeah he is, he really is. Anyway, there we are.
That's us talking about hip hop.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Yes, that was our first hip hop centered podcast.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
My I can't even tell you if my my algorithm
has because it's it's so far deep in.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
They not like us, so so we may never know.
I don't know what's going to happen this week, but
but we'll find it out. It's just funny that that
happened the day I was like, I'm gonna get I'm
cleaning back my algorithm.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
No, I wish we could. I wish we could know
how different your TikTok would be right now had you
not blocked Facebook and metaquest and Instagram, because I saw
it in action for myself, like it really did change
the feel of the timeline that I was getting, even
though I wasn't getting content from Facebook and Meticquest, Like
(14:03):
it's weird as shit, Like just blocking those changed a lot.
And then on top of that, you got this very
lefty hip hop content because you watched it on the
super Bowl. It's pretty cool. Yeah, well it is, like
I did not watch it on the Super Bowl. And
my content's been pretty pretty limited in that regard, Like
(14:24):
there's been some but not a lot.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
There's okay, I've kind of I've kind of watched it.
Just I'll open up TikTok and I'll see how long
it takes for me to come across something playing the hook,
and a lot of times it's the very first TikTok.
The longest it's taken was thirteen swipes, but then it
was like five in a row.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Wow, you're measuring your swipes?
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Yeah, well it's it was just one day where I
was like, oh, maybe it's maybe it's it's past.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
But no, it's bad.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
It's there still.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Wow. Wow.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
But also also I think maybe I'm in a dated
because I'm less racist than you, right, the alger of
them knows, I mean most people are. No, Jeff's not racist.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Nope. I hate everyone equally, yes, man, That's always been
my mantra, right, yep. I remember, God was it? It
was a comedian that I think was good, Not like
how when I was a kid I liked Bill Cosby
and it turned out he was total, you know, devil.
(15:32):
But there was some comedian I want to say it
was George Carlin, but I'm not one hundred percent sure,
but he said something that really rained true to me
as a child or teenager, which was like, why hate
somebody based on the color of their skin, where if
you take the time to really get to know them,
you can find so many other reasons to hate them.
(15:53):
And those words have stuck with me through my whole life.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Hate people for the right reasons kids, Yeah, exactly, exactly, exactly.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
All right, man, Well thanks for checking in. Yeah, not
that you've really been that absent. You were just on
our last episode, but still, I know your life's been
kind of crazy. That's okay, and thank you for coming
and talking about Kendrick Lamar. Nothing could be finer or
more on brand for us.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Yes, yes, we talk about stuff that we probably shouldn't
be talking about every week, so here we are.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Yes, all right, Well, thanks for joining us for this
little minisode everybody or whatever we call it. I got
to make sure that's not copywritten by the my favorite
murder people because they do something called the minisode.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Okay, we can come up with something else.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
I'll google it. I'll google it. I'll see if I
can find any evidence that it's you know, owned by
them before I release it.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
I don't think we want to cross the the I
don't think we want to cross that audience at all.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
No, I love them anyway.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
If we're going to feud with a podcast, it should
be somebody who's not gonna kick our asses. Yep, you
gotta punch down. You gotta start by punching down, right,
so
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Like we always punch down, Like we always say, un
suggested articles podcast, while we sign out, stay sexy and
don't get murdered a podcast
All right, So I don't know if we need to
do the whole.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
No, just come up with a come up with a
just but us into a conversation.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Yeah, okay, yeah, I can.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Play don again and be like, are we doing a
podcast right now?
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Oh? Do you want to keep recording?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
I am recording? Wait what? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (00:17):
I was sorry, I was yesding, see I was ding.
And then I thought we would just we would just
kind of organically but not really get into the update
that I wanted to say, yeah, talk about And of
course we may have to and and part of this
is because I don't know if I'll be able to
record next time, right, so, but this is a very
(00:38):
important update.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
No, we need the important update. Okay, so let's do this,
all right.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
So last time we recorded, you had me block on TikTok, Facebook,
Meta and Instagram. I'll see if it would change my algorithm.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Oh oh yes, Now.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Do you remember what day? What day it was that
we recorded?
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Well, I mean I think it was two weeks ago
from the time we're recording this, So do you know
the exact date.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Was one week ago? One week could go to day
Super Bowl Sunday. We oh yeah, we were got together
early super Bowl Sunday, and Okay, so as soon as
the episode was over, I blocked this stuff. But then
what happened? What happened?
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Well, I mean I got too Well, okay, did your
algorithm immediately change first.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Yes, but not not because of that specifically. Something happened,
something shifted in the zeitgeist.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Did it make you auto follow Donald Trump instead?
Speaker 1 (01:40):
No? Are you not? You're just not on the pulse
on this at all? Is this coming out of completely left?
Speaker 2 (01:46):
When you blocked them? Did it unblock them?
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Okay, you blocked them? Okay, here's the timeline. I'm trying
to I'm trying to talk about something, and you're missing it.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Okay, I am, I am something about.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
So we record, we record early in the morning, right,
because yeah, and then I blocked those things on TikTok right,
and then something happened that's like a massive Okay, then
the super Bowl happened. Okay, did you watch the Super Bowl?
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Sure? Yeah, of course?
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Okay, the halftime show, Oh, Kendrick Lamar. It was like
a cultural moment, and it was and I'm look, I'm
not gonna pretend I understood it all or anything, but
I knew when I was watching, I'm like, something amazing
is happening, you know, and my my algorithm got blasted
immediately all to hell. It is all Kendrick Lamar, and
(02:38):
it is all not like us, and it is all
say Drake, I hear you like them, Yeah, like I have.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
I have. Yeah, So it's not even TikTok anymore.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
It's just no Kendrick Lamar. Kendrick Lamar took over the
algorithm from my perspective. I don't know how it affected you,
but it's not just it's not just TikTok. It's everywhere else.
And it's funny because it only exists for me in
the cyber world right on on the internet. I go
to work and nobody talks about it. You know, I
don't hear anybody talking about it. I don't. I don't
(03:16):
have conversations that get to that point where yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
That's interesting, right right yeah, I okay, So confession, m H.
I know that Kendrick Lamar and Drake have a beef.
I don't know who's I don't know anything about it. Necessarily.
It seemed like I heard enough to know, like Drake
might be kind of a creep, But that's like all
I knew, so I didn't really care about the fact
(03:43):
that these two are beefing with each other. So when
everyone else was getting all excited for the super Bowl
because Kendrick Lamar is going to come out and maybe
say something, who knows, like it could be wild or whatever, Like,
I didn't give a shit. Yeah, So when the super
Bowl halftime show started, I went to go do some
more mm hm. So I did not watch it. I
(04:05):
am racist. I was not being represented on screen.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Well, it wasn't just about it wasn't just about that.
It was it was he did that. His whole performance
was about being black in America and cultural divides and
just amazing symbolism and the you know, the songs he
chose to saying, and how he how he appeared on
(04:31):
the car that was a car he was driven home
from the hospital when he was born in a car
like that. So that's where he started. That's where the
show starts. And I don't know a lot about everything.
Like I said, I'm I'm a white guy from Utah
talking about Kendrick Lamar, but it.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Was in I also didn't give any shits about Katie
Perry or like the Backstreet Boys, like over the decades,
like a lot of Super Bowl halftime shows do not
interest me nor Janet Jackson and Justin Timberlake. Though I
certainly watched the recaps later, I would.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Have blasted the algorithm to hell too. Yes, it would
have might have set us back, yes.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
As could we be set back anymore as a people.
So I didn't watch it, but I have gotten a
fair amount of TikTok content. However, it's been more focused
around the dual lingo owl. Oh yeah, and how dual
Lingo has been shooting on Drake as part of Kendrick's thing.
(05:33):
And then also the dual lingo owl I guess got
assassinated by a cyber truck. Did you see this? It's
like everything we talk about, right.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
It's crazy. Who thought that the dual lingo owl was
going to take us to hard stance? And the Kendrick
Drake beef?
Speaker 2 (05:51):
I definitely did not see that coming here. I was
paying more attention to what Ben and Jerry's has been
putting out on TikTok, and it turns out I should
have been watching a cartoon owl the whole time.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Incidentally, I don't know what flavor Ben and Jerry's put
out that's supposed to be like a political flavor, but
I heard they had something to do in the stores.
It's not where I live. Oh, it's not for me.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
It's not for you. Yeah yeah. And also, to be fair,
the super Bowl halftime show was not for us, me
and you, I mean, except to participate on a level
where we're like, okay, yeah yeah. Things are fucked up
in this country right now. And the most beautiful thing
for me that I've taken from it is there's this
there's this idea that that that people have to be
(06:38):
we have to be better, we have to rise above it.
And maybe that's not what we really need to do.
We just need to be driven to win. That's what
we need to do. We need to be driven to victory.
And the thing that Drake is guilty of is just
not realizing how outmatched he was from the beginning.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
That's fair.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
I mean, if I was going to go against somebody,
I'd probably go down the list and cross off anybody
who hadn't already won a Pulitzer Prize. That's where I
would start, you know.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Okay, wait, wait, wait, I just heard something about that
in a TikTok the other day. It's like, Okay, Drake
was an actor on like Degrassi or something, and meanwhile
Kendrick was like a Grammy winner and something and something
and won a Pulitzer Prize. Yes, isn't that for like journalism?
What did he win a Pulitzer Prize for? No?
Speaker 1 (07:31):
No? I Actually, my dad's friend, Joseph Schwattner was a
composer from the Eastman School of Music who won a
Pilazer Prize for composition. Oh so it's not just about
Oh yeah, so it's not just that. But I think
Bob Dylan won a Pilazer Prize. Did he win it
for poetry? Did he win it for a poetry set
to his twinging guitar? Let's not pretend like we didn't
(07:52):
really know that much about it. So we're going to
do something we rarely do on the show when Aaron's
not around, as we'll google it.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Eh, yeah, googling it right now. Okay, he won a
Pulitzer Prize in twenty eighteen for an album.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
I think it was yeah, for his writing, I suppose.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Okay, what am I thinking of? Is it? I thought
Pulitzer Prize was generally for journalism or is it literally
the Pulitzer Prize for journalism dot dot dot? Like, are
there a bunch of different Pulitzers.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
There might be other Well, clearly, I guess let's look
at that.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
They probably didn't give Dan Rather a Pulitzer Prize for
writing out for.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
That would be amazing if Dan Rather had a hip
hop had a gangster rap album out there somewhere, cultural
appropriation Dan, But.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Still if we ask though, he might do it because
he's kind of awesome.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Now, yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
He's funny.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
So here they are. Here are the categories. Okay, okay,
this is the prizes in twenty twenty four were awarded
in these categories.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Okay, these categories these nuts.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Are you reporting, biography, breaking news reporting, breaking news, photography, commentary, criticism, drama,
editorial writing, explanatory reporting, feature photography, feature writing, fiction, general nonfiction, history,
illustrated reporting and commentary, International reporting, investigative reporting, local reporting,
memoir or autobiography, music, music not music reporting, mind you
(09:20):
not music, poetry, National reporting, Public service.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Yeah, certificate and fifteen thousand dollars in cash. That's very cool.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Yeah. Yeah, his was specifically for music, I'm looking at
the Pulitzer's own website right now. That's a that's a
hell of a thing.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
That is a hell of a thing.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Let's see.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
And if I don't know, it's become a problem because
it's all I want to talk about now. And as Kendrick, yeah,
he's just the farther I go. The more I listen,
the more the more I experienced, the more I'm just like,
that's all I want to talk about. I get mad
when the fact that, you know, he just can't listen
(09:58):
to one song like eight hundred times at work, but
when I listen to other stuff, it just sounds petty
and hollow. I'm just like, I don't care about this shit.
Let's listen to Kendrick some more.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
So.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
I probably heard not like us like a thousand times
since since Sunday.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
But I guess I should start.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
I dance, I do the little walk, I do the
little shuffle around the kitchen.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
You know.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
I can't do the crip walk. That that's not that's
my I don't have the knees for that.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
But yeah, okay, all right, all right, I'm gonna do
my part between now and the next time we record something.
I will I will listen to some Kendrick Lamark. Okay,
all right, It's not like I'm opposed to the concept
of hip hop. I'm well known for my karaoke stylings
on Baby Got Back, so I'm pretty hip.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
That's just that's important.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Yeah, I'm cool. I'm down with the R and B
hip hop genre.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
M m yep hmm.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Yes, I'm a happening due.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
It's come up on the podcast before.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
How cool?
Speaker 1 (11:05):
I No, no, no, it's never come up. How cool
any of us are on the podcast except for maybe
Neon K Chaos for sure. Yeah, but I was gonna
double check in real quick.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
So Neon Chaos actually brought this up in his last
episode where he was talking about how Martin Screlly had
the one and only copy of one of the Wouting album.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Yes, yes, you're right, that is hip hop related. Yes,
none of us will be able to hear that album
unless Martin Screlly decides we.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Can buck Farmer Bros. That's all I have to say.
All right. A federal court seized his assets belonging to him,
including once upon a time in shall Inn so Oh.
The Department of Justice sold it to a NFT collector.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
What ye when I said it was the first time million.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
To cover some of Shcrelly's debts, So you were right
in that sense, it really was. I mean it was,
and then then it was an NFT.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
And like the spirit of the idea of that album
is exactly what NFT has turned out to be. But
then they wound up selling it to an NFT. Guy,
I had no idea.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Okay, Okay, now according to this I don't know, because
it still says the first public exhibition of the album
began in June twenty twenty four at the Museum of
Old and New Art in Hobart, Tasmania. Okay. That month,
Shcrelly live streamed the album on x, triggering a lawsuit,
so I guess he has a copy of it. Still
(12:41):
triggered a lawsuit from the people who own it, and
they began selling partial ownership of the album as an NFT,
with each purchase accelerating the release by eighty eight seconds.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
So the government sees the assets, and that little shithead
had made a backup copy, which I mean, there's nothing
wrong with making a backup copy of one of kind work,
I guess, but you shouldn't get to keep it. Nasty
little bastard. Yeah, he's the real old dirty bastard that
Martin Schcrelly.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Yeah he is, he really is. Anyway, there we are.
That's us talking about hip hop.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Yes, that was our first hip hop centered podcast.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
My I can't even tell you if my my algorithm
has because it's it's so far deep in.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
They not like us, so so we may never know.
I don't know what's going to happen this week, but
but we'll find it out. It's just funny that that
happened the day I was like, I'm gonna get I'm
cleaning back my algorithm.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
No, I wish we could. I wish we could know
how different your TikTok would be right now had you
not blocked Facebook and metaquest and Instagram, because I saw
it in action for myself, like it really did change
the feel of the timeline that I was getting, even
though I wasn't getting content from Facebook and Meticquest, Like
(14:03):
it's weird as shit, Like just blocking those changed a lot.
And then on top of that, you got this very
lefty hip hop content because you watched it on the
super Bowl. It's pretty cool. Yeah, well it is, like
I did not watch it on the Super Bowl. And
my content's been pretty pretty limited in that regard, Like
(14:24):
there's been some but not a lot.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
There's okay, I've kind of I've kind of watched it.
Just I'll open up TikTok and I'll see how long
it takes for me to come across something playing the hook,
and a lot of times it's the very first TikTok.
The longest it's taken was thirteen swipes, but then it
was like five in a row.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Wow, you're measuring your swipes?
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Yeah, well it's it was just one day where I
was like, oh, maybe it's maybe it's it's past.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
But no, it's bad.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
It's there still.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Wow. Wow.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
But also also I think maybe I'm in a dated
because I'm less racist than you, right, the alger of
them knows, I mean most people are. No, Jeff's not racist.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Nope. I hate everyone equally, yes, man, That's always been
my mantra, right, yep. I remember, God was it? It
was a comedian that I think was good, Not like
how when I was a kid I liked Bill Cosby
and it turned out he was total, you know, devil.
(15:32):
But there was some comedian I want to say it
was George Carlin, but I'm not one hundred percent sure,
but he said something that really rained true to me
as a child or teenager, which was like, why hate
somebody based on the color of their skin, where if
you take the time to really get to know them,
you can find so many other reasons to hate them.
(15:53):
And those words have stuck with me through my whole life.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Hate people for the right reasons kids, Yeah, exactly, exactly, exactly.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
All right, man, Well thanks for checking in. Yeah, not
that you've really been that absent. You were just on
our last episode, but still, I know your life's been
kind of crazy. That's okay, and thank you for coming
and talking about Kendrick Lamar. Nothing could be finer or
more on brand for us.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Yes, yes, we talk about stuff that we probably shouldn't
be talking about every week, so here we are.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Yes, all right, Well, thanks for joining us for this
little minisode everybody or whatever we call it. I got
to make sure that's not copywritten by the my favorite
murder people because they do something called the minisode.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Okay, we can come up with something else.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
I'll google it. I'll google it. I'll see if I
can find any evidence that it's you know, owned by
them before I release it.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
I don't think we want to cross the the I
don't think we want to cross that audience at all.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
No, I love them anyway.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
If we're going to feud with a podcast, it should
be somebody who's not gonna kick our asses. Yep, you
gotta punch down. You gotta start by punching down, right,
so
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Like we always punch down, Like we always say, un
suggested articles podcast, while we sign out, stay sexy and
don't get murdered a podcast
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