Requiem for a TikTok (kinda)

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Dial up those VPNs, put on your tinfoil hat and
just turn yourself into a deep fake before somebody else
beats you to it. It's time for suggested articles a podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
I genuinely liked that one.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
I engaged with a dangerous trump nut the other day
for the first time I fought with someone because she
was claiming that the January sixth footage where was all
a deep fake by actors paid by Antifa, and that

(00:53):
it was actually like a really polite, peaceful thing.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
Or was it a deep fake or was it polite
I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
Comed?

Speaker 3 (01:04):
Yeah, she said that, like the doors were actually opened
for them and the people were allowed in peacefully, and
it was only the actors that were part of Antifa
that injured the two people. And then this, this uneducated
woman said it wasn't an insurrection because only two people died.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
The fuck?

Speaker 1 (01:27):
Oh is that the rules for an insurrection?

Speaker 3 (01:29):
I didn't realize there was likenmum death count, right, Yeah?
What's the minimum death count for an insurrection? Is my
real question? Anyway, So I forgot not to engage with idiots.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
This is the media.

Speaker 3 (01:44):
Someone I was on Facebook and this is someone that's
related to this is someone that's related to my friend. No, no,
Abby doesn't give a ship. Abby's like there was a
lot of noise day and I was trying to take
a nap and my mom cried, I think it happened.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
Did you cry? On January sixth?

Speaker 3 (02:07):
I did? I weirdly, I can tell you where I
was so weird because this was during the end days
of COVID lockdown, sure sort of kind of, and I
was in the process of moving up here. So I
had come up for a final meeting with the company
that was going to hire me, and I was staying

(02:27):
at my parents' house. I was at work, but I
was basically just like sitting in their living room on
my laptop working for the company that I used to
work for in California, and I was watching it happen,
and I just started like crying, and like I was
still working, but I was like so sad that I

(02:48):
was watching something so scary happen, and it was just
so upsetting to me that we lived in a world
that was so gross. If someone had told me it
was going to get worse, I don't even know if
I could have believed them at that moment.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
It is fascinating that like I'm on a zoom with
two people that have like real human emotions. Like I
remember January sixth happening, and I was just kind of like, well,
there you go. To me, it was very matter of fact,
like this is the natural result of everything that's been happening.
And I guess some desks are going to have poop

(03:26):
on them and a few people are going to die.
Like it just I don't know, it just seemed like, well,
this is normal. I had very I had very little
feeling about it, apart from everything is dumb.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
And for me, I think I was kind of numb
as well, just because I remember watching the Waco thingo
sideways and I remember nine to eleven obviously, and this
thing was just it was just it was scary. But
at the same time, I don't know, it just feels

(04:02):
like this's where we're going now in some way will
be televised, right well.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
I mean, in some ways it was like the dumbest
revolution because they weren't actually going to accomplish anything. The
best case scenario, yeah, I don't know. Well, I mean
I guess if they had actually hung Mike Pence and
then like gone after the Supreme Court or something like
if they if they had killed a bunch of high
level officials, maybe it would have been I mean, it

(04:27):
sort of would have played into the backstory of the
Handmaid's Tale, Like the shit that happens in the Handmaid's
Tale that leads to the rise of the new government
is at least in the show. I don't know about
the book, but it would kind of have mirrored that
a little bit. But in this case, like there was
some violence clearly, and then but then when they got inside,

(04:47):
it really was like there was like that one security
guard that was like, hey, I'll take you to the
main chambers, let's just all stay calm, and he's like
leading them on like this wild, like family circus style
path around it. There it's just a big crowd of idiots.
And then there were other people that had were running
rampant through the capitol, defacing things and vandalizing. But it

(05:09):
was just such a stupid revolution.

Speaker 3 (05:12):
I don't think I was crying, because I think my
tears and my sadness and shock that day were mostly
that I still had faith in humanity, and I think
at this point I have next to nothing. I have

(05:32):
like the tiniest scoch of like faith in humanity left
after this election because I don't I keep throwing this
number round, but forty eight percent of white women voted
for Trump. I just want to I just want to
put that out there as a white woman of a
certain age and say that I no longer respect or

(05:55):
you know, like I hate who I'm a part of.
And it just so I think that for me though,
that day was the beginning of the end, because I
was like, this is where a shitty bully can get
stupid people to just do terrible things. And it's so
scary to me.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
Now as we're recording this, and I kind of want
to google, like, I'm going to google inauguration day real quick,
unless one of you knows when it's happened.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
The twentieth, okay, because on the nineteenth they y Trump's
having a huge victory rally with loads of like proud
boys and.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
So very in Washington.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
I don't remember where that's located. I think it's outside
of Washington proper, but it's in a nearby state.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
Well, this is fascinating, Okay, So it just is like
a moment in time thing. We're recording this shortly after
this latest election was certified peacefully in Congress. No hubbub,
no hijinks. No one died that I know of. But yeah,

(07:07):
so they've both been certified. Donald jehosaphat Trump is going
to be our I don't know eighty sixth president. I've
lost count, but he's president again.

Speaker 3 (07:19):
Shouldn't he get the same number he had before? By
the way, because he's not a new president. I'm just saying,
shouldn't we just keep using his original number? Why confuse
things like George Washington served two consecutive terms, but technically,
by Trump's logic of being another numbered president, now Washington

(07:40):
and anyone else with two terms, Reagan should have been
like Washington would have been one and two.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
You know, like I have a vision in my head
of a couple of my elementary school classrooms, and in
those classrooms was a picture of every single president we've had,
like a portrait, going all the way around the classroom.

Speaker 3 (08:03):
To get two pictures.

Speaker 1 (08:04):
Now we get two pictures of his Grover Cleveland brand
new pictures. But did he have nonconsecutive terms? Yes? See,
there you go, So it's been done before.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
And also, you know, I love you guys dearly, but
all we're going to be hearing about is this fuck
for the next who knows how long? I don't know
why we're talking about it here. This is supposed to
be this is going to be a happy day. I was,
I was looking forward to this, and now I'm like,
oh fuck, okay, okay, Well, well I.

Speaker 3 (08:30):
Just want real quick corrections corner on my own statement.
The rally's actually going to be in DC at a arena.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
Well that's the Capital One Arena, so maybe everything will
burn down by then.

Speaker 3 (08:43):
Twenty thousand of his closest crazy supporter friends will fill
head Rock performs Oh my favorite.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
He's all they've got? Really, I mean, you could get
Charlie Daniels maybe or is he alive? I don't know.
There's a couple guys who's the Are you ready for
some football guy about the country. Gay Hank Williams, Hank
Williams Junior, he's a big Maybe not Charlie Daniels. I'm sorry,
I take that back, Hank Williams.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
So if you want a nice, nice departure from that,
look up Hank Williams the third. He is great. Yeah,
he's very cool, awesome.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
Did his dad dis own him?

Speaker 2 (09:25):
I don't know. No, I hope.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
So yeah, okay, but the reason I wanted to capture
the moment in time was a number of things are
happening right now. So this this episode will drop on
January nineteenth. Now, we're recording on January twelfth, and right
now the area I live in southern California, where Aaron

(09:47):
also used to live, is desperately on fire. And also,
but when this episode drops, TikTok will officially be going
black in America.

Speaker 3 (10:00):
Well, yeah, he's so hard for my followers.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
There's been a few different takes on this. I'm actually
not sure what's true. I don't know if we will
suddenly be unable to access TikTok with an American IP
addresses or if we just won't be able to download
the app fresh, because I've seen both of those things,
and I don't know what's true.

Speaker 4 (10:20):
Yeah, we don't know expected what's happening, so me, I guess.
But either way, I've been speculation is sort of our
jam here. But I'm just going to say the world
is going to end, Fire will rain down from the heavens,
and I'm going to miss that guy with his raccoon.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
God damn it.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
Well, maybe the guy with his raccoon will start doing
YouTube shorts.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
I don't like YouTube shorts. I don't like YouTube.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
That's good.

Speaker 3 (10:46):
It does say users will still be able to access
TikTok after the band by using workarounds. Yeah, so maybe
like VPNs and stuff you could write.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
So a lot of people are saying, well, let's talk
about that. So it is kind of a tech topic.
Can you use to access TikTok through a VPN? The
short answer is yes, probably, but with a caveat that
the way you log into TikTok, they will probably have
blocked all the US servers from having any activities, so

(11:16):
you probably won't be able to access your TikTok account.
So maybe if you turn your VP on and spoof
yourself so that you're in England, then you might have
to make a new account and that's going to be
your Briton account, and so you'll still have to start
over in terms of your followers, your content and all
of that, but you could probably get there through a VPN.

Speaker 3 (11:43):
Oh good. I just I was looking at an article here
on CNN Business and it says even TikTok attorney Noel
Francisco seems uncertain about exactly how a ban would go down,
he said on January nineteenth, as I understand it, we
shut down.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (12:01):
That's comforting that they're they're head legal team doesn't know.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
No, I think. I think the best thing about this
is is it's nice to know that everything, every other
problem we've had has been solved and so now all
we have to do is this kind of thing. So yeah, yeah, yeah, we're.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
Hitting the importance is what we're doing.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
We can't we can't protect our children in schools, but
we can't we can't have affordable health care.

Speaker 3 (12:26):
It is an interesting Supreme Court case because they're mad
about they're saying that they're probably going to uphold the ban,
but most likely the counter argument has to do with
First Amendment and stuff like that, and so it's curious

(12:50):
to see how they're gonna address that. I'd like to
I don't normally want to read their letters that they
write after the fact on that ship, but I would
kind of want to read how they're tiptoeing around the.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
Well. The argument against TikTok is that it's somehow a
national security issue because China, and that's.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
That's because it was the ABC News let it slip
for they kind of told the real story. Jeff, do
you want to get into that, Yeah, more plausible than
just what the national security risk actually is.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
I mean, there were a lot of people on TikTok
talking about ABC News's article, and I've been trying to
find the article and I don't There's there's just a
lot of stuff about TikTok right now, so I don't know.
But but ABC News had had presented the fact that
that a big part of the argument against TikTok from
the government is that we can't control the flow of

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information there, and that's the part that hurts the most.
We like, we knew it wasn't about China because explain,
no one has explained how China in any way having
any kind of owner's partial ownership over TikTok hurts us.
No one's explained that because it's not true. What it

(14:04):
really is is the flow of information. And they have
control Facebook Twitter like they have much bigger censoring options
to make sure that the algorithm doesn't present stuff that
makes anyone uncomfortable. And TikTok a lot less not perfect,
but less.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
But see, I don't even understand what they're worried about
because they have more power now than they have in
a long time. They're all in charge. The little guy
is screwed. It doesn't matter where what kind of form
we have.

Speaker 1 (14:38):
And they don't want us organizing. They don't want the
little people organizing. I mean, ultimately, whether it was something
like a general strike, which is talked about all the time,
or you know, some kind of revolution which would be
very hard in the era of a modern military within yeah, yeah,

(14:58):
I mean, I don't know, but but they just don't
want people being able to organize well.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
And I also think there's got to be a money
issue too. I'm always going to bring back to money.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
Well, it's definitely a money issue Facebook for the other
social media company instead of yeah yeah, Twitter, We don't
say the other word here Twitter Meta.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
What happened to Aaron Aeroni is still away, still with us,
Aaron's reading Maybe she's trying to find that damning I.

Speaker 3 (15:30):
Was trying to find that article, but I can't find
that exact article. But they're saying that it would cause
extraordinary disruption in Americans lives. That's the a c l
U that's there, Okay, thing it says the final arguments.
We're Friday, so I'm surprised we haven't heard yeah, your

(15:52):
nay yet. I guess they get time to do you think.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
That Supreme Court works weekends? Come on?

Speaker 2 (15:58):
I think Clarence Thomas is on some paid vacation right now.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
Probably.

Speaker 3 (16:06):
I think the Supreme Court goes into it knowing how
they're going to vote and don't listen.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
But that's just me. The Supreme Court is as useless
as all the other branches of government, now.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
I mean just the way the court works. I mean
it always has kind of been like that, even when
the Court will be a little bit less partisan, because
a they choose their cases. Just because you petitioned the
Supreme Court doesn't mean you get your day in court.
They have to choose you because they think it's an
interesting constitutional question. And then they also, now that's assuming

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they read, which once again Clarence Thomas probably too busy
hanging out in his Winnebago. But their job is to
read all the existing data on that case in advance
the arguments, to familiarize themselves with everything that the rulings
that came out. They have to read the prior rulings
on the case. Look at the evidence from both sides

(17:02):
and be ready when it comes to the Supreme Court,
because then on Supreme Court day, the two sides they
can't just go on and on and on. They have
like strict time limits, Like this isn't going to take
weeks to argue something in front of screen court. You
have like an hour and then there will be some
Q and A with the court. But yeah, they have
to know all the facts of the case in advance.

(17:23):
So yeah, they probably have already made up their minds.

Speaker 3 (17:26):
But the Orange has them so deep in his pocket.
And Orange, I mean, they're just gonna do and they're
going to enforce it. But the thing that I'll be
curious about in the aftermath is and please prove me
wrong in this case. Prove me wrong, Supreme Court, do

(17:47):
the right thing for freedom of speech. Absolutely, prove me wrong. Please.
But if I'm right, and I think I will be,
this is kind of set a dangerous precedent for other
cases that are going to come up out and we're
going to start systematically shutting China out of apps and
content creation in the States here, because what's next is

(18:10):
they'll tell TAMU that they have to go and they'll
tell Wish that they have any of these dynamic, large
scale China based development companies, either they're going to pull
out or big business here in the States are going
to attack them and get them banned as well.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
Well.

Speaker 1 (18:34):
Two thoughts. First of all, Trump has said publicly that
he's questioning whether TikTok should be banned because he thinks
it'll get him some applause from his followers at least now,
what's actually going on behind the scenes. I don't know,
because Mark Zuckerberg recently went and bent the knee at Marlago,
So between him and Elon, I don't think Trump actually

(18:55):
gives any shits about TikTok.

Speaker 2 (18:57):
But speaking of which, have you seen Mark Zuckerberg lately?
What is going on with that? Oh?

Speaker 4 (19:04):
My god, he's got the golds and yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
He looks like somebody who went away for the weekend,
got a perm and a gold chain and came back
to school. He's like, I'm a cool kid now, and
he's not a cool kid.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
I'm working on my Yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
Yeah, yeah, he rented that the studio booth in the mall.

Speaker 1 (19:27):
Yeah, he's not awesome.

Speaker 3 (19:29):
He is interesting because no, no, he is because he
is just so desperately trying to like fit in. No
matter how rich or how successful he gets, that like
insecure nerdy kid is still inside of him, and you
see it flare up with things like these crazy new

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hairstyle and the glasses and the chains. He's just trying
to like be a cool kid and he's still doesn't
know how well.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
Yeah, I mean they're both extremely insecure.

Speaker 3 (20:06):
I had an interest money.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
Our money can't solve that.

Speaker 3 (20:09):
Apparently, no, it can't. And I had an interesting conversation
with friend of the show Kristen last night. We were
talking about men of that one percent, white men of
the one percent, and I said, how come we had
people like uh Carnegie or Carnegie depending on where you're

(20:33):
from and how you say that, and then Rockefeller and
all these rich white men that literally I mean they Rockefeller,
I believe, in addition to all the other things he
has around New York, was responsible for building Union Station,
which was you know, I mean, did he profit probably,

(20:54):
but like also, that's a massive, huge, fucking building that
you built and has been a architectural, uh you know,
architecturally significant landmark in that city for generations.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
And it was built to last. They don't make them
like that anymore. Yeah. Well, and.

Speaker 3 (21:15):
With the Carnegie family, they built so much and donated
so much to arts and things. So you had these
you know, one percenters back in the day that were like, yeah,
that we're a philanthropists. Now you look at a one

(21:35):
percenter like fucking musk face, and he is just such
a piece of shit. He doesn't have a single philanthropic
bone in his body. He just wants more and more
and more money for himself. And it's it's nots, it's nuts.
Where did the kindness go in our country at some point?

Speaker 1 (21:57):
And I mean rich people always probably competed with them,
but at some point, and you know, maybe it was
Forbes's fault for putting out those lists or Fortune or
whoever that puts out the list of like, you know,
the top billionaires in the world or whatever, but at
some point it became more of a competition to see
who could be the richest than anything else. Uh. And
so Elon's big claim to fame is that he is

(22:21):
the richest now, and for him, that's that's that's winning.
But he's got to stay on top of it because
Bezos could get him any day. So he's got to
keep getting more and more and more money so that
Bezos can't catch him.

Speaker 3 (22:35):
I don't like any one percenters, but I will say.

Speaker 1 (22:39):
You don't like so many in my phone book.

Speaker 3 (22:43):
Jeff Bezos the most out. No no, no, no, no, no,
hold on, hold on.

Speaker 2 (22:49):
No, that's not even you know. Go ahead, and then
I have something to say.

Speaker 3 (22:55):
I don't like him as a person. Let me say,
when I'm saying this, this is if it's like him, Zuckerberg. Uh,
let's throw Trump in there for some groans in the
in the listener pool right now, and let's say, uh,
Zuckerberg musque Trump Gates, I mean Bill Gates, and then

(23:19):
fucking the guy from Amazon. If you put them all
in a line, the one that I hear Jeff Bezos's
name is the one I hear the least. He seems
to be quietly enjoying his wealth, whereas like every day
Elon Musk is you know, being a piece of shit
verbally in front of everyone. So it's like between someone

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and then Zuckerberg is clearly devolving. So if you put
Bezos next to these other people, he's just your standard
rich guy. He's not being a fucking creep like.

Speaker 1 (23:53):
The sure if you're gonna compare like the tech billionaire set,
then I might put Zuckerberg at the top of that list.
A few years ago when he didn't seem to be
more than a few but still like he was.

Speaker 3 (24:07):
Cool first, Yeah, quiet, chill cool, but like, no, I
mean chilly, chill.

Speaker 1 (24:14):
Now, what actually happens behind the scenes of Facebook not
the same thing. And we know Amazon literally tortures its employees.
But but I mean, I guess I kind of get
what you're saying. But he's so gross.

Speaker 3 (24:26):
Oh no, he's still gross, but like, but.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
He's not out there in your face every day being right.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
If you're gonna he's just quietly exploiting workers day in
and day out, trying to say to an early death,
not paying them enough, not giving him good insurance, all
sorts of things. That's that's all.

Speaker 3 (24:45):
I just I'm going to say it. I'm going to
say the thing that I've I've brought this person's name
up on your show before as an example. If you're
going to be gross, go the Bill Cosby route, Like,
enjoy a nice career for like forty years and then
we find out you're a piece of shit, and then
you suffer horribly for your crimes. Don't just out loud

(25:06):
be a piece of shit. Keep that shit inside of
you a little bit.

Speaker 2 (25:10):
Well, at the same time, Bill Cosby fucking he fucking
prayed on women for years and years. It would have
been way better if we known he was a piece
of shit, so we could have just been like no,
and then we didn't buy any of his books, we
didn't support his habits and the any of that. And
before we get too far away, I just want to say,
let's not. Let's not let's not lion Ice the industrialists

(25:35):
of old, because they were also Robert Barons. Okay, these
are people that these are people that were anti union.
These are people that made company towns. These are people
that you know, worked worked people to the bone and
to get their money. And and even though they did,
they built rural libraries and contributed to the arts that

(25:58):
it opportune and like they're they're better than these people.
Well still okay, and I was not sad when when
so many went down on the Titanic.

Speaker 3 (26:11):
Well, but here's okay. But here's the thing. This, Jeremy, yeah, rip, Jeremy,
this is this is perfect. Thank you for bringing me
to My next point, men on the Titanic did not
like you had. The closest thing to trump on the
Titanic was is me the guy that was like the
white star line head guy that was on the Titanic,

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because he straight up was like, I'm getting in this
boat because I'm your fucking boss, and he was saved.
That's what I would expect of all of these tycoons
of industry now, is that they'd be like, bitch, you
know who I am. I'm getting off before the women
and children. I think they would do that, whereas like
Astor and all those men and the fucking the guy

(26:58):
you know who's rad the people who owned Macy's, they
straight up were like, we're already old and we love
each other. We'll just die here. You guys go. And
I think there was a chivalry. Yes, yeah, yeah, Ida
and Isador Strauss were half of the owners of Macy's.

Speaker 1 (27:20):
And you know this, that's awesome. Okay, keep going, keep talking.

Speaker 3 (27:23):
So Strauss told his wife Ida to get in the lifeboat,
and she said, you know, I've lived my whole life
with you. I don't want to go with you. And
they stayed and they like died together.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
Wait, were they the ones in the movie where the
old couple just got on a bed and held hands.

Speaker 3 (27:41):
Well, yes, they didn't get on a bed in real life.
They were just.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
Supposed to be them, yes, yeah, yeah, and so they for.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
All we know, it was like a bloodfest for all
after the boats left.

Speaker 3 (27:54):
Well, yeah, I don't think we're seeing I don't think
in any of the movies in Mide we're seeing the
looting terror that actually was happening. But like.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
Looting on the boat would be great. I'm mean, why
I will have that gold watch.

Speaker 3 (28:10):
But like John Jacob Astor put a coat on his
pregnant what I've read a lot of survivors, like article stories, books, things,
because I'm fascinated by the tragedy, But like Astor literally
like put a warm coat on his pregnant like nineteen
year old wife or whatever, and so he guy and

(28:31):
said I have to stay here. Well no, I mean
he wasn't. He wasn't, you know, as old as the Strausses.
He was still only like forty five or fifty I think,
But he was like.

Speaker 2 (28:42):
Okay, I'm the same.

Speaker 1 (28:46):
Jennifer for twenty.

Speaker 3 (28:47):
Year old, Oh my god, you.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
Know what twenty year olds today are so mature, Jess.

Speaker 1 (28:53):
Yeah, they really are. I've seen their tiktokic.

Speaker 3 (28:55):
Yeah, you guys, it was. I'm just saying if you
lined today's tycoons up with the tycoons of the Titanic,
you would see that the men on the Titanic, for
the most part except is May, were like no men,
men should stay back and women and children should go.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
So right, Okay, what you're saying.

Speaker 2 (29:18):
That he was still a robber Baron's okay, but those anything.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
But I do understand the point Erin's trying to make.
It's shocking to me more than anybody that I'm going
to defend Aaron here.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
But no, don't do it, don't do it.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
But but I see what she's saying, because right now,
any of these guys, I mean, just look at Elon
as a parent, like how his kids feel about him,
Like any of these guys are only in it for
themselves at all costs. It is just it's all about me.
And even though it was like ninety eight percent all
about them back in the robber baron days, there was

(29:54):
still like a sort of basic code of like this
is like, this is this is how men are. This
is like a thing, and one of the rules is
we go down with the ship, and that definitely would
not happen. Like there's not many lies.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
But coat, yeah, that's a code. But it just it
just builds on the lie that rich people are truly better,
we're more civilized, we're more dignified.

Speaker 1 (30:19):
Oh no, it was what was No no, because it
was what was expected. I don't care.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
It was.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
Which where all men were to go down with.

Speaker 3 (30:30):
I don't normally fight with Jeff one f. But here's
the deal. All we're saying all we're saying. No, No,
we're not saying.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
Tell me, tell me how great Hitler was we were.

Speaker 3 (30:40):
Okay, bitch, don't even start with me. The point is
that there was a sense of chivalry and a sense
of doing what's right amongst all men and all men
kind that.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
Here, let me try to boil this down. Let me
try to boil us down. For one F.

Speaker 2 (30:59):
Jeff, it's this thing that's portrayed in The Great Gatsby.
I'll give you that, but I don't know if that's
really the case. That's what we're led to believe.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
But here, okay, So if Elon Musk was on a
super yacht and the super yacht was sinking, kid, would
I get it? He would step on his child. He
would step on his pregnant child bride to get to
the lifeboat. He would push her face into the water.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
If I just don't know why we're like ranking horrible people.
Some are less horrible than others, and these guys are
way more horrible. I mean, I'm saying, just no, do
work for me.

Speaker 3 (31:32):
I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
Right in the bar, which people have.

Speaker 3 (31:36):
Gotten worse, is what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (31:38):
Basically, that is true. I don't know, you know, And
there is that to keep in mind too, which was
like the top one percent, like one hundred and fifty
years ago, they only had like twenty times the wealth
of like the average American citizen rich. It's like, yeah,
and more powerful, eight billion times more than you.

Speaker 3 (31:58):
Probably really fucking hate Uh Anderson Cooper? Then, huh is
he like at the top of your fuck off list
because he don't really care about He's a Vanderbilt.

Speaker 2 (32:08):
I don't really care about Anderson Cooper, though I don't
care about rich people like I see, and I feel
like I'm attacking something that that is dear to you
because I know you have liked the royal family and
stuff like that, and oh, I mean this guy today,
but I'm just so over I mean, oh god, I
already have to listen to the dude bros all the
time talking about how great Elon is everywhere.

Speaker 3 (32:31):
I almost I almost spent on a cyber truck last night,
so you should. But then I was afraid there were
some cameras me, but like it was I So I
went to my local dispensary yesterday when I was done
dealing with California on fire, and I went and I

(32:53):
picked some stuff up, I got my groceries, and I'm
on my way out of the dispensary and this cyber
truck had parked in not a space, of course, like
a vent center that I have to drive through the
parking lot to get out of my dispensary. It's like
a one way driveway into the dispensary and then you
go through this thing. And this cyber truck had left

(33:13):
like an eighth of a car's width. To get out,
it was impossible. I had to drive like super far around,
and then even to get around the cyber truck to
get out, the other exit was still like pretty dicey.
I was checking every mirror I had in my car
and just looking around. And as I went by, I
rolled down my window and I literally, I fully was

(33:35):
like and I got as much spit as I could,
and then I was like, oh, there's so many cameras
on these things. And then I just like rolled my
window back up. But I almost I produced and was
ready to spit quite a loogie on this piece of
shit car.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
I like woke something up in the machine and it
just followed. You didn't even need to drive.

Speaker 3 (33:56):
I just I don't trust split it.

Speaker 2 (33:59):
Yeah, yeah, I don't either.

Speaker 1 (34:01):
Cyber truck would detonate itself to get revenge on someone
who spit on it.

Speaker 3 (34:05):
I don't even know how the person got out of
the cyber truck because they parked in what wasn't a space,
so their goal wing door. I mean, I would like
to have seen the person try to get back in
the car, because they would have been like trying to
like slide into the goal wing door that couldn't go up,
and not just stupid assholes fuck elon Musk.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
Yeah, at least we can all agree on that. We
can't agree on John Jacob astor John Jacob.

Speaker 2 (34:36):
I could google a whole list of Robert Barns.

Speaker 1 (34:39):
I won't bet you can. Yeah, you've broken Aaron's little heart.

Speaker 2 (34:43):
I'm sorry now, I just.

Speaker 3 (34:47):
It's okay.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
I agree that I agree that definitely chivalry is dead,
but I don't know when it died. I can't put
my finger on it. I don't even know if it
was really a thing in my lifetime.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
Just I want to rewind this a little bit because
there was something else. Aaron said something else about how
this could lead to a bunch of other Chinese based
apps or companies being banned, and who knows really, but
in regards to something like a Timu, that's only going
to happen if they're cutting too hard into Amazon's profits,

(35:23):
because once again, the government doesn't actually care about the data.
No you know this, yeah, wait, how the government doesn't
care about China harvesting our data? Because yeah, that would
be a huge problem with right now.

Speaker 2 (35:35):
But the tariffs are going to kill Timo. That Timu,
that stuff's going to be like four or five dollars now.

Speaker 1 (35:41):
Shit, that's true. That could hurt Timu's sales.

Speaker 3 (35:46):
I do feel like some of the products on there
are much more expensive than they used to be. But
I don't think we are even seeing the tariff yet.
Soon it won't be fun. It won't be worth buying
anything there.

Speaker 1 (36:05):
Yeah, and then you.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
Know what else, We're just the child slave labor that
makes that stuff.

Speaker 1 (36:11):
But that's the thing. Okay. So I was I had
the conversation with Jennifer, which was she was saying I
shouldn't shop on Timu because Tina is clearly more evil
than Amazon. And my feeling is no, because everything we
buy is made in China by children.

Speaker 2 (36:25):
And yeah, you're right, you're right, it's all your possessions.
Right now, we really need to do this free ourselves.
We need to go full fight club.

Speaker 3 (36:35):
Here's my question to you, to to you, Jeff.

Speaker 1 (36:41):
That doesn't help, okay, all right, I'm zipping it, yes.

Speaker 3 (36:43):
Okay, sorry, Jeff. It is questions for you. Do you
own anything that came from Tamu?

Speaker 2 (36:53):
No? No, unless the pillow is is that pillow Amazon?

Speaker 1 (37:01):
Right?

Speaker 2 (37:01):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (37:02):
Then no, that's where So if you guys missed it,
they have Lola Faust official merch now, both of them.

Speaker 2 (37:08):
But but Aaron, I do have things from the TikTok shop.

Speaker 1 (37:12):
So it's just as I was about to ask about that.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
I also have things from Amazon, which is.

Speaker 3 (37:16):
I was going to get to Wish next Wish.

Speaker 1 (37:19):
I've never shopped on Wish and which that sounds really scary.

Speaker 3 (37:22):
Yeah, Wish was great before the other things like Sheen
and uh Tamu existed, because Wish was the first of
its kind. Also, Wish had actual free items. It wasn't
like play this game and feed this dog for six
days and get six friends to sign up. Wish was

(37:45):
just like Hi, welcome. You can have one gift up
to ten dollars free with free shipping if you try
our service. But that's not a thing anymore.

Speaker 1 (37:55):
Yeah, Timu plays a lot of games. They're like spin
this wheel for a discount, and then you like you
have to spin it, and then it like fails, and
then like spin it one more time, and then at
the bottom you see a little text everybody's going to
get this three hundred percent discount.

Speaker 3 (38:09):
That's my favorite part because why do we need that.
I'm a busy professional. If you could just cut to
the chase and tell me what my bottom line is,
I'll know if I want to do it or not.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
Look, there's I think I think we've we've harped on
it before. There's just no ethical way to participate in capitalism.
So we need we need the star trek socialism to
start right away.

Speaker 1 (38:33):
It's a real it's a real good place problem, like
if you've seen the good place, and the problem where
like no one can go to the good place anymore,
is that every action you do has, even if it's
something genuinely good, has ramifications. Yeah, like trickle down the
line and eventually hurt somebody or hurts the planet. Yeah, sure, for.

Speaker 3 (38:54):
Sure, like giant shrimp, giant cocktail shrimp just falling from
this guy.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
Now I'm hungry.

Speaker 1 (39:01):
What that's my dream? Man? I would eat one of those.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
Hey, guys, guys, yes, guys, yes, to do some suggested
articles to go, Let's let's do some suggested articles. Well wait, wait,
we haven't done actual suggested articles a very long time.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
Well, I I want to do suggested articles, but boy,
we've been okay. I do have wonder if you were male? Okay,
or listener male. It's from someone named Jennifer. U sounds hot.
I don't know, gross, she said she was. She was

(39:37):
having a conversation with her boyfriend and some friends at brunch.
The other day that guy sounds and the two friends
were going to uh head to Ikea right after the brunch,
and as soon as she opened her phone right after
that conversation, her very first suggested article was I don't

(39:57):
even know if this counts as an article, but it
was on Yah. So I think it's pretended to be
an article, but it's really an ad. But the most
popular Ikea organizer is this adorable mini find that's under
two dollars crack journalism from Yahoo. Thank you. Yeah, so
she wanted it. She wanted us to know that she
felt she felt heard and seen, but in a bad

(40:19):
and creepy way. Uh so that that's.

Speaker 2 (40:22):
By the algorithm.

Speaker 1 (40:24):
That's the only male I have right now. Oh no,
there was at Neon Chaos. Yeah yeah, it's sort of
an older Neon Chaos. But he did send me an
article which my phone has since closed. Hold please to add.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
Oh I got I got something fucked up my phone
did after this.

Speaker 1 (40:43):
Okay, I got I got it here and I want
to hear about your fucked up phone. So it's an
update on Microsoft. Recall the thing that we're all going
to be stuck with sooner or later, Like if you
have to buy a computer now you'll probably be stuck
with it. But keep an eye out for people. They're
called co pilot plus PCs. They have a neural processing chip.

(41:03):
Maybe it's still possible to get one without the copilot
plus chip in it. But yeah, anyway, Microsoft Recall. Microsoft
has been enhancing it after seeing all the problems with
people like immediately hacking into the database of all the
screenshots of your life. And now all that information is encrypted.

(41:25):
I don't know exactly how encrypted, but Microsoft hopefully is
doing a good job.

Speaker 2 (41:30):
How I don't trust Microsoft.

Speaker 1 (41:32):
To do so. Here's with this article. This is on
Tom's hardware dot com. It's from a little while ago,
but thanks, we were busy with holidays. Okay. The new
version of Recall encrypts the screens it captures, and by
default it has a quote filter sensitive information setting enabled,
which is supposed to prevent it from recording any app

(41:54):
or website that is showing credit card numbers, social security numbers,
or other important financial info. Would anyone like to take
a guess where this article is going?

Speaker 2 (42:03):
Yeah, yeah, but the problem with that is is or okay,
the problem with that is then it knows what is
what so it's still keeping track of that ship.

Speaker 1 (42:17):
Well, yeah, that makes sense.

Speaker 2 (42:18):
Be able to reunize, it's going to be like, oh,
this is a thing, this is a you're entering your
credit card number, you're this wordy. But so it's still
it's not a fucking Microsoft's business.

Speaker 1 (42:28):
When I entered a credit card number and a random
user name and password into a Windows Notepad window, recalled
captured it, despite the fact that I had texts such
as quote kapitala one visa unquote right next to the numbers. Similarly,
when I filled out a loan application PDF and Microsoft
Edge entering a social Security number, name, and date of birth,
Recall captured that. Yep, yep.

Speaker 2 (42:51):
So yeah, Microsoft isn't in a protect your.

Speaker 1 (42:53):
Dataested with actual credit card info and web pages. Yeah.
So once again, Microsoft just doesn't get of any shits.
They just don't know.

Speaker 2 (43:01):
They don't have to. They don't fucking have to. So
why do they need to start?

Speaker 1 (43:06):
All right?

Speaker 2 (43:06):
Let's oh, oh, oh, I got I got a good
fucked up phone story. And that might just be me
having a senior moment because I have become I have
become a disaster with technology. I don't know that I
turned fifty. I turned fifty, and it was fucking all
downhill from there. Yesterday, I get this on Messenger. I

(43:27):
get this message from my brother in law and he's like,
who's Frank?

Speaker 1 (43:33):
What?

Speaker 2 (43:34):
What?

Speaker 1 (43:34):
What?

Speaker 2 (43:34):
Why do you ask me who Frank is? I'm not
I whatever. So I look and I see there's a
group that's been created on my phone where I sent
a picture and created a group of two people, my
brother in law and this guy Frank that I work with,
and I send them a picture that I didn't even
have on my phone yea, And I'm.

Speaker 1 (43:57):
Just like, what the fuck?

Speaker 2 (43:59):
It's random. It's like a cartoon. It's a It's like
a cartoon where's a guy shoveling snow and then there's
somebody with a violin behind him with violin behind him
and it's something about being told to accompany him outside
or something like that.

Speaker 3 (44:17):
Company.

Speaker 2 (44:18):
Yeah, you should.

Speaker 1 (44:21):
Send me a copy of that picture for the Patreon
the free patreon patreon dot com slash.

Speaker 2 (44:25):
Yes, I wonder how is my how did I did
I butt? Did my butt do that? I mean I
put it in my front pocket, so it's not my butt,
but it's my.

Speaker 1 (44:35):
I mean, I know how I've done stuff like that
or almost done stuff like that before. Usually on TikTok
is that I'll be watching it while I'm like falling asleep,
and then my hand'll like rest on the screen the
next thing, and then I'll like jerk awake, and I'll
see that like I'm on a sharing screen and I'm
trying to share something with somebody, But I was never
trying to touch.

Speaker 2 (44:54):
No, I'm so afraid of doing stuff like that that
I I I like have a little pillow that I
lean my phone up. I have a phone pillow. I'm
very fondsy oh boy, thank you's out. I mean, I'm
just so terrified that I have a phone.

Speaker 1 (45:14):
I mean, baby, bro, but it didn't have to be
while you were lying in bed. I've been in conversation
with you on Xbox and like listening to you go
incoherent and then fall asleep.

Speaker 2 (45:24):
Like yeah, but that's because I drink and then I'm tired.
I've been up for like twenty four.

Speaker 1 (45:28):
Hours and I drink drunk texting people I'm not.

Speaker 2 (45:31):
I don't drunk text because it's never good. It's happened.
I broke a long time ago because I get get
into email, and I'm like, man, I love you so much.
We really need to hang out more than I.

Speaker 3 (45:41):
Do all this stuff, my drunk texts.

Speaker 2 (45:43):
Because I stopped doing it because it's because it got
me in a bad situation where I had to leave
the house. Wow, and I And now I'm in this
weird position because I have this this job at work
where I'm like, am I'm a I'm a counselor, I'm
a therapist, I'm a lawyer, I'm an investigator. I'm all
these things.

Speaker 5 (46:04):
And I have the contact information of people who could
if I'm sending them random ship, it could I'm a problem.

Speaker 1 (46:16):
Yeah, well I.

Speaker 2 (46:17):
Guess I'm important. Aaron, I'm important, and I have a
phone pillow. I'm not important, I'm just it just these
are people I have to work with every day. I'm
gonna have to go in and they're just gonna laugh
at me.

Speaker 3 (46:31):
Are you going away? What are you gonna be all right?

Speaker 2 (46:34):
I don't think so. Dude. Have you ever done something
where you cannot explain? But when this happened, I hadn't
been up for twenty four hours. I hadn't had a drink,
I hadn't had any I didn't have any burnt pizza.

Speaker 1 (46:49):
There's a bunch of fooze sitting right behind you. I
mean it looks like.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
That's the liquor cabinet. God damn it, but wow, that's
what It's a thing people have.

Speaker 1 (46:59):
All right, Well, I just want to say, man, you're
You're important to me. Okay, yeah, I love you.

Speaker 2 (47:04):
I think I'm falling apart.

Speaker 3 (47:06):
Everything's still be okay, we're all.

Speaker 1 (47:08):
Falling apart, Aaron, how are you doing? Are you falling apart?
Are you doing good? Oh?

Speaker 3 (47:12):
I'm super falling apart.

Speaker 1 (47:14):
I think falling apart is just like the way our
world's going right now.

Speaker 3 (47:17):
Some dumb bitch bought bought into the idea that having
a thousand podcasts was a good idea. So I know
I'm tired because I have several side hustle jobs plus
my regular job.

Speaker 1 (47:32):
So we still haven't gotten our other side podcast off
the ground. We should probably work on Maybe maybe you
don't want to work on that right now.

Speaker 3 (47:38):
No, no, I do. I do want to work on that.

Speaker 1 (47:43):
Well, we should talk about that again sometimes, revisit the idea. Okay,
so we did some viewer mail. Oh yeah, so Microsoft
recall still bad, still very very bad. Thank you to
horrify us. Okay, should we do some suggestive articles then?
I don't know how long we've been talking, but it's
definitely been a while.

Speaker 2 (48:03):
It's been a while. We need to around here. I mean,
I like what we've been talking about, but let's let's
light it up.

Speaker 1 (48:09):
I wanted to do something a little different for this
particular new round of suggested articles. I've been using Firefox
as my browser for quite a while. At some point
I'm going to switch off of that and try Duck
Duct Go. But what I haven't been using is Google Chrome.
So I wanted to see if Google Chrome has current,
up to date spy information about my life. Oh god damn. Yeah.

(48:32):
And it is immediately proven as a yes because I
open up Chrome, hit a new tab, and there's something
about a local town I'm not going to talk about that,
and then there's Xbox game pass stuff. But then the
third article down how long ago the rebellion happened in silo?

(48:54):
And I don't want to give spoilers for.

Speaker 2 (48:56):
Silence on for me, I will murder you.

Speaker 1 (48:58):
Yeah, but we know, we know, like I want of
bellions happen inside these these silos, right Like it's a thing.

Speaker 2 (49:06):
Sounds like the vaults.

Speaker 1 (49:07):
But but but I've just been watching Silo season two
and gotten current on it last night.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
So, Jeff, do you have an Apple Plus subscription?

Speaker 1 (49:17):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (49:24):
You know, sorry, do you want to cut that out?

Speaker 1 (49:26):
I do know that I can push a bunch of
buttons and get Silo on my TV. So it might
be Apple Plus. I don't know. Probably is, it's probably
Apple Plus. I'm sure I'm giving Apple all the money
I can give them because they're good and benevolent.

Speaker 3 (49:41):
Solid choice sounds great?

Speaker 2 (49:44):
All right, Aaron, you want to go?

Speaker 3 (49:47):
All right, So here's where in the world Bluie will
be in twenty twenty five.

Speaker 1 (49:54):
Fuck you, I mean yay blue Uh.

Speaker 3 (49:57):
Disney hit with copyright laws for Mawana too in the
middle of Award season.

Speaker 1 (50:04):
I'm curious what did they who did they violate? You
want to tell us Shaw your view of Disney being amazan?

Speaker 3 (50:11):
See?

Speaker 2 (50:12):
I don't care. Let's see. No. Moana two was one
of the worst theater experiences I've had in a while.
And you know, you go to a Disney movie and
you're gonna have kids that's not I'm not like kids,
and they're gonna run around. That's fine, that's that's it.
That's normal. But the lady sitting next to me, she

(50:34):
had this this toddler who was just screaming, and instead
of like picking them up and like shuffling the fuck
out just hang out by the door or something, she
is like violently, not not calmly, violently rocking this child
back and forth. And she's doing like this, like and
shaking the whole row of seats, and it was worse

(50:58):
than the I'm like, can we please go back to
the screaming? What the fuck?

Speaker 1 (51:03):
But did it stop the screaming eventually? Okay?

Speaker 2 (51:06):
I wanted to scream God damn, like like, okay, I mean,
come on, it's a Disney movie, do we really? It's
is it? You're not if you if you miss a
few minutes, you're gonna be okay, You're gonna be okay.

Speaker 3 (51:22):
Yeah, okay.

Speaker 2 (51:23):
They all kind of have the same plot. They're like
Hallmark movies.

Speaker 3 (51:25):
I like Molana one. I like that Lynn Manuel Miranda
was involved with it. I like that Chris Jackson, who
played George Washington in Hamilton, played Mohana's dad. So when
I first heard the original soundtrack years ago, I was like, oh,
what's up, George Washington? All right, you're telling me about

(51:47):
this island. I like it. So I generally liked the
first mon Off Home. I just haven't gone yet because
every time I use my Regal Unlimited Plus thing to
go get a ticket form MO one to two, that's
like super sold out, even the morning showings, and I
don't want to be in a room with that many kids.
I want to enjoy the animation, and for me, animated

(52:10):
films are as much about the story as they are
about the quality and the craft of the animation style.
So no, I haven't seen that yet. But this fucker
that's trying to sue them, This is this person's second
second time trying to sue them over Mawana content. So
this guy claims that he wrote a screenplay called Bucky

(52:37):
that he gave to someone in two thousand and three
to look at. He had he had a first look
deal with Disney, uh, and then they ended up not
making the film Bucky. But so his claims are that
it was set in an ancient Polynesian village. Okay, but
like that's a place, so that's hard to say. A

(52:59):
teenager goes on in ocean adventure. There's a lot of
movies where teenagers go on ocean adventures. There's one where
they go on an ocean adventure with a fucking tiger
in their boat. Like, that's hardly uh said, adventure begins
because of a turtle. That's not the case in Majuana,
So I don't understand why that's even listed in the dispute.

Speaker 1 (53:19):
It was a turtle in Finding Nemo, so it's probably related.

Speaker 3 (53:23):
Symbolic necklace is important to the story. Yeah, so is
fucking the heart of the Ocean and Titanic Buddy, Are
you gonna sue James Cameron anyway? Sorry? Supporting character has
a hook wielding is a hook wielding demigogue with tattoos.
In Polynesian culture, most of the people would have tattoos,
and the hook is similar to a Polynesian like style

(53:49):
of weapon for fish.

Speaker 1 (53:53):
Something okayish okay?

Speaker 2 (53:55):
Yeah. Also another thing about Robert Barry.

Speaker 3 (54:03):
Let's see the crew is sucked into a whirlpool portal. Again,
that is just in movies that involve the ocean typically, Yeah,
I don't so. Anyway, this guy is suing them. He
sued at Malana one didn't win ma Wana. I came
out now he's doing again.

Speaker 2 (54:19):
Also, for the record, I don't know if this kid
stopped crying or if it just had shaken baby syndrome.
I'm not even kidding it was.

Speaker 1 (54:26):
I was actually thinking that. God.

Speaker 2 (54:31):
So I'm not going to sleep tonight.

Speaker 1 (54:33):
I mean, it sounds like one of them kind of
silly lawsuits. But Disney has Aaron as a Disney fan.
How do you feel about the accusations over the Lion
King just being like a shot for shot rip off
of a Japanese movie about lions.

Speaker 3 (54:53):
I actually hadn't heard that.

Speaker 2 (54:55):
And are you talking about the new movie?

Speaker 1 (54:57):
All right, I'm gonna play Matt. We should revisit it? No, no,
this is the original animated Lion King.

Speaker 3 (55:04):
Like, no, I do want to revisit that. Should I
look into that before we.

Speaker 1 (55:09):
I mean, let's come back to it. Let's come back
to it the next time we all record. And I'm
going to take a little note of it too, right.

Speaker 3 (55:21):
Should I? Should I continue down my list or someone.

Speaker 1 (55:26):
Else if anyone wants to. If anyone wants to follow
along at home, it's called Kimba k okay I m
b a Kimba the White Lion. But definitely look that up. Okay,
what do you got for suggested articles? There? One?

Speaker 2 (55:39):
F Jeff, there's the fucking Billy Corgan article.

Speaker 1 (55:46):
Fuck you.

Speaker 2 (55:51):
See world's longest train tunnel.

Speaker 1 (55:56):
World's longest train tunnel. Okay.

Speaker 2 (55:59):
New study identifies earth secret metal highways beneath ancient continents.

Speaker 1 (56:05):
Excuse me, it's in.

Speaker 2 (56:06):
Side Tech Daily. I don't know if I want to
click on this, but that's a weird headliner thatunds interesting.

Speaker 1 (56:12):
Yeah, you know what, teach.

Speaker 2 (56:18):
What I mean, what ancient continents are we talking about,
like Pangaea or.

Speaker 1 (56:23):
I don't know. You've got to have to tell us
and where are these metal highways?

Speaker 2 (56:27):
And how you can research from mccuory University as so, I
like Christopher McCrary. He has his own college. You know,
I'll say, yes, oh, it's this. They've pinpointed the likely
locations of essential metals crucial for advancing a green economy. Hell,
the Green New Deal bullshit. I don't wanted to hear

(56:48):
about this socialist rhetoric.

Speaker 3 (56:50):
Sorry, while you're reading this, I just want to tell
you that I never talk about the Lion King. And
I pulled down to refresh, and the top thing is
Disney Plus. Here's when Mufass's Disney Plus streaming debut is
now expected.

Speaker 1 (57:05):
That's amazing, real time suggested article. Bullshit, good job, good job, algorithm.
You're making it too easy for us. Yes wow, so
uh yeah? Is there any more about the metal highways
or is it just that are going to exploit them?

Speaker 2 (57:24):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (57:24):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Is that pretty much it? Yes? Oh.

Speaker 2 (57:29):
Human futurism dot com says humans can access something akin
to bullet time. Scientists says, okay, here's another fucking Billy
Corgan thing.

Speaker 1 (57:40):
Oh my god, I've heard about the human bullet time
kind of thing before. I guess if in the right situation,
like in the middle of a car crash. Let's say,
like people have reported in some near death experiences that
they feel like the world has slowed down around them.

Speaker 3 (57:57):
Maybe it's that maybe Grandma who has no idea who
Sabrina Carpenter is reviews her Duncan drink and goes viral.

Speaker 1 (58:09):
Uh okay, Sabrina Carpenter has a Duncan drink. I Sabrina
Carpenter is.

Speaker 3 (58:15):
I did not know who she's a Disney girl, and
I did not know that she had a dunkin drink either.

Speaker 2 (58:27):
Can you go try it today? Let me tell you
something about Disney.

Speaker 3 (58:30):
No, I'm not going to go try it Todave. But
this eighty one year old grandma in North Carolina who
goes by Grandma see on TikTok reviewed Duncan and Sabrina's
new brown sugar Shaken Shaken Espresso and went viral, garnering
a nearly million videos and even props from the six
time Grammy nominated singer she calls. She says that she's

(58:51):
a short and sweet fan.

Speaker 2 (58:55):
Wow, I'm short and sweet, but you don't hear me
bragging about it. I'm very important. I have a I
have a tvy pillow.

Speaker 3 (59:01):
Come on also, now that now that you've shipped on
this sweet little grandmother, she also says, I'm happy that
I'm making other people happy with my content. Away to go.

Speaker 2 (59:14):
Good for her? No, I'm all for granny's grannies and technology.
It's just jealous that she's probably using it better than me.
Can we just make a thing where instead of like so,
I'm the new Florida Man, except not Florida man. When
somebody can't use technology, will just call him Jeff.

Speaker 1 (59:29):
Sure, except I work in technology. So that would be
bad from you.

Speaker 2 (59:32):
That's why we say Jeff, Jeff. Okay, no, not Jeff.

Speaker 1 (59:38):
I'm bad at that. I'm sorry. Here's a question for
you nerds. I got an article here that says all
ten Middle Earth movies ranked from worst to best. Did
you guys know that there were ten movies that in
Middle Earth?

Speaker 2 (59:52):
Well, there's seven just from the Hobbit and the new
Peter Jackson movies, right, and there's another one.

Speaker 3 (59:57):
Now, what about the War of they made.

Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
Fucking didn't they make four? Did they make four Hobbit movies? No?

Speaker 1 (01:00:05):
He only made three Hobbit movies. Showed great restraint. Oh
my god.

Speaker 2 (01:00:10):
So there's seven with the new anime that just came
out about the in this.

Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
List, I'll have to check, but I do love it.
So number ten ranked was Hobbit the Battle of the
Five Armies, And it says here, you know, blah blah blah,
and stuff went wrong, blah blah, Blame it on Peter Jackson,
Philippa Boyans, and Fran Walsh, or the studio exacts at
Warner Brothers for milking the ip for every cent it's worth.
But the decision to split a relatively short children's book

(01:00:34):
into a trio of nine figure budgeted movies with a
combined runtime of eight hours feels in retrospect, like artistic malpractice.
I've had this fight with my kids, and maybe this
is why it came up. But I also love Lord
of the Rings. They love those movies. They watched the
Hobbit movies on a regular basis.

Speaker 2 (01:00:54):
I don't like those movies burning passions.

Speaker 3 (01:00:56):
I don't hate them, but it's.

Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
Just like they're just not good. They're not good.

Speaker 3 (01:01:01):
You know what Hobbit movie is good? That Houne from
when we were kids.

Speaker 1 (01:01:06):
Yeah, where the ranking is let's where the ranking is here? Sorry.
Number nine was Lord of the Rings, the Ralph Bakshi
Lord of the Rings, Okay, I was just watching that.
Number eight, which I was not familiar with, was an
animated Return of the King from nineteen eighty that apparently
was made by Rankin and Bass.

Speaker 3 (01:01:24):
Yes, oh shit, I don't think i've seen that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:26):
The Christmas people they were trying to finish back She's
work because he didn't finish.

Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
I think you can watch on HBO Max right now.

Speaker 1 (01:01:33):
Oh shit, All right, then the.

Speaker 2 (01:01:35):
Hobbit Return of the King is there?

Speaker 1 (01:01:39):
Oh well, I might have.

Speaker 2 (01:01:40):
To check that out.

Speaker 1 (01:01:41):
Okay, number seven The Hobbit, Desolation of Smaug. Of course,
number six the Hobbit, and Uninspected Journey. So we've covered
all three of those. Uh page two, fuck you God
damn it? All right, but I want I want to
see if he's on here. Okay, number five, Lord of
the Rings, War of the War here. I have not
seen this yet either.

Speaker 3 (01:01:59):
Kristen's I haven't seen it. I was like, I don't
know that I like this animation style enough to watch this, yeh.
But Kristen saw it and she was like, oh, it's phenomenal.
She said that you get used to the animation style
after the first like a few minutes, and you're not
so like because it looks sort of anime to me. Yeah,

(01:02:21):
and I don't always respond well to all forms of
anime art. But that's not that the stories aren't great.
It's just sometimes I'm like, I don't like how you
draw their face, or I don't like you know how
they move, or and that's just from an artistic sham.

Speaker 2 (01:02:39):
No, I'm just kidding. I know we know your heart
is full of love. Everybody knows.

Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
Despite being in the middle of this list, but you know,
there are some some high standards this This article on
Taste of Cinema dot com seems to think that it
was a decent film.

Speaker 3 (01:02:55):
Well, I've heard great things. I just haven't seen it
yet because I was like, I don't know, but i'll
probably watch it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:01):
Number four on the list is the classic nineteen seventy
seven animated The Hobbit. Yeah, yes, And then in three,
two and one, of course, although maybe not in the
order you expect, but maybe the Two Towers number three
really Peter Jackson's Return to the King number two. And
then the best Lord of the Rings movie is The

(01:03:22):
Fellowship of the Ring from two thousand and one. So
there you go. I guess maybe I'll have to check
out whether we're here them. I'm not opposed to it,
but I feel the same way. It's like, I don't
even mind anime in general. I've watched it with my
kids at times. I've watched some in my youth, but
it is weird seeing Middle Earth stuff in an anime style.

(01:03:44):
Then the preview kind of jarred me that way. I
was like, I don't know, I don't know about this
because it is weird.

Speaker 3 (01:03:51):
I think animation style can play pretty heavily for me
anyway on whether or not I end up liking something
or sticking with it. And like, there's a kids show
out called Gumball. I don't like how they look, so

(01:04:11):
I don't find like when Gumball's in peril or upset,
I'm not concerned as much because I don't care about you,
because I don't think your your animators are doing whatever
type of animal you're supposed to be Justice. I think
he's a bunny. I think I don't know whereas you know,

(01:04:35):
other people, A lot of people ship all over Star
or Wish the Disney.

Speaker 1 (01:04:42):
Movie Wish was Back.

Speaker 3 (01:04:44):
Okay, no, the Disney movie Wish. The style of that
is it reminds me of story books, how the backgrounds
would be these beautiful, like elaborate paintings, and then the
characters sort of have like the darker outlines and be
in the four front it look. It reminds me of
old school multiplaying camera Disney shit where certain parts move

(01:05:07):
and you can tell they're reusing some of the animation,
but in like a fun nostalgic way with a fun
new twist because some of it's also CG and whatnot.
And I liked it, but a lot of people were
like half ales only the mouth moved on the goat.

Speaker 2 (01:05:23):
At this scene.

Speaker 3 (01:05:24):
Like people were pretty cheesed off about it, and I
liked it. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:05:30):
I mean, it's another one I haven't seen. I haven't
seen any.

Speaker 3 (01:05:35):
So if you have time to watch Wish, I want
to say two things about that movie because I am
an advocate for it. One, stick with stick with it.
The first like scene or two you're like, oh, this
is sad and slow, but then it really picks up
when the person sings They're big song. But the the
reason I say stick with it is my friend Jen Kumiyama,

(01:05:58):
who I'm trying to get her on Mysney Show but
we're Disney has my Disney podcast has been on a hiatus,
so I want her on there. But she voices the
main character's best friend both singing and talking voice, and
she's a delight and she is somebody that is has
a handicap, and I was very excited for her that

(01:06:22):
they had a handicapped character and so they reached out
to a handicapped voice actress and I thought that was special.
And then the other reason is Chris Pine is the
sexiest Disney villain of all time. That's it. He's very sexy, Magnifico,
is hot, magnifico.

Speaker 2 (01:06:45):
Magnific character. Follow the conversation, Oh my god, have you
seen this movie? Jeff, No, But I knew who she
was talking about from the context of the conversation, Magan,
because I wasn't looking it up, was listening. Speaking of which,
Speaking of which, I looked up. I looked up goon

(01:07:10):
for you on Urban Dictionary and.

Speaker 1 (01:07:12):
I was right. Okay, I was right.

Speaker 2 (01:07:14):
It is too it is. It is not edging. It
is different than iting, and it's just enthusiastically to enthusiastically participate,
is okay.

Speaker 1 (01:07:23):
So as we know, this is a sex education podcast.
And last night on xbox Chat, you need to get
an xbox, Aaron. Last night on xbox Chat, I have
an Xbox.

Speaker 3 (01:07:34):
I just don't understand how to make this work with
you guys, because I don't think I have any games
and my xboxes need to again, I.

Speaker 2 (01:07:43):
Just have to join the party where we talk.

Speaker 3 (01:07:46):
Okay, hit me up there.

Speaker 2 (01:07:48):
I said that, like I heard it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:51):
I wait back and I suggested it. God damn.

Speaker 2 (01:07:58):
I apology.

Speaker 1 (01:08:00):
A conversation about gooning and what is gooning? Aaron, do
you know what gooning is?

Speaker 3 (01:08:05):
That was me dying slowly. No, what is gooning? It
sounds like it's going to be sexual and gross.

Speaker 1 (01:08:10):
I can't wait gooning. So here's how I explained it. No,
gooning is this thing the kids are into now, apparently
they call it now. They'll just like kick back, like
on a couch or in bed or whatever for hours
and hours and they're just they're they're they're touching themselves
the whole time, but never to completion.

Speaker 2 (01:08:32):
No, that is not goony.

Speaker 1 (01:08:33):
They'll watch TV, they'll talk. Well, okay, gooning.

Speaker 2 (01:08:39):
Is jerking enthusiastically voraciously.

Speaker 1 (01:08:42):
So I looked at that. I looked this up last
night after we were done talking.

Speaker 2 (01:08:47):
I forgot.

Speaker 1 (01:08:49):
The answer I got was they gooning and edging are
actually the same thing.

Speaker 2 (01:08:53):
No, they are not the same thing.

Speaker 1 (01:08:56):
Okay, So this is this is why we have an
email address Suggested Articles podcast at gmail dot com. We
meet stress people because apparently we have both researched this
in deeply and we've come up still with you.

Speaker 2 (01:09:12):
I listened to the youth of today. That's that's where
I heard it and then got up first, Oh, you
get it straight from the youth, from not even my kids.

Speaker 1 (01:09:20):
So whose kids are you asking about? Cooning?

Speaker 2 (01:09:23):
I work with twenty one year old kids.

Speaker 1 (01:09:25):
Twenty one sure, Okay, that's not a kid.

Speaker 2 (01:09:29):
It is to me motherfuckers. Yeah, yeah, I don't. I
don't talk.

Speaker 3 (01:09:33):
About outside of high school.

Speaker 2 (01:09:35):
Yeah, I don't go to I don't go to like
a junior high. I'm like, hey, kids, what's the word
on the street.

Speaker 3 (01:09:41):
Legal? O?

Speaker 1 (01:09:43):
Good? What are your masturbation legal?

Speaker 3 (01:09:47):
The legal definition of the legal definition of kid doesn't
change just because you get older.

Speaker 1 (01:09:53):
Jeff, Yes, it does.

Speaker 2 (01:09:54):
Everybody who's a kid, everybody who's is a kid. You're
a kid as far as I'm concerned. You were just
talking about cartoons. Well, I'm which I also know that
forty fuck I remember you know what? I don't even
remember when I was your age.

Speaker 3 (01:10:10):
Well, actually I'm only forty four now. I was trying
to make you feel better by saying I would be
for forty five. Sorry, I feel I got carted for
alcohol the other day at the grocery store, so I
looked under thirty five, and I'm very excited about that.

Speaker 1 (01:10:25):
Yeah, nice, I bought some oh, for New Year's I
bought some like Jack Daniels coolers. Right, that's like Jack
and Coke, all pre mixed for me, so I don't
have to know.

Speaker 2 (01:10:36):
Are you going to a party in Utah?

Speaker 1 (01:10:38):
No? I was going to party at my house with
a bunch of kids.

Speaker 3 (01:10:41):
What the fuck?

Speaker 1 (01:10:42):
I boughty alcohol for a bunch of kids right here?

Speaker 2 (01:10:47):
Oh okay, oh.

Speaker 1 (01:10:50):
College.

Speaker 3 (01:10:50):
I guess all Jeff's with two s's are gross around
young kids.

Speaker 1 (01:10:55):
Jaff Daniels was for me, but I did. I did
suggest that the twenty one year olds try it, And
the looks on their faces. I wish I had been
taking pictures. They were twenty one year olds.

Speaker 3 (01:11:04):
Twenty one year olds aren't kids, guys. I can't stress
that enough.

Speaker 1 (01:11:08):
My kids are kids. Listen, listen, listen. So I buy alcohol.

Speaker 2 (01:11:13):
Are younger than my kids? They are kids? Okay?

Speaker 1 (01:11:16):
Buying alcoholic Target and the guy looks at me with
my white beard, and he doesn't card me, He doesn't
scam idy or anything. He just goes are you are
you at least twenty one? It was like yeah, It's
like hey, okay, good enough. It's like thanks, thanks, man.

Speaker 2 (01:11:32):
I felt bad for you for what you were buying
when I bought Booze, It's like, were the Zea?

Speaker 3 (01:11:40):
Do they relaunch Zema?

Speaker 1 (01:11:42):
I like Zea.

Speaker 3 (01:11:43):
They had Zema shortly before COVID, and my friends and
I were buying it because it was like nostalgia. And
then after the first couple zemas, we were like, what
do we do with this now? Because it's just basically
like water towns of ice. Yeah, and so we started
adding things. We used that as like the base of
cocktails to get better. That no, so I in the fall.

(01:12:06):
I waited months to have this conversation. But in the
fall I went and picked up a twelve pack of
the Sam Adams Harvest variety of beer at Target. And
the Target I went to, the young man behind the
cash register was not eighteen and had to go get
an adult to wring me up.

Speaker 1 (01:12:28):
And I was like, fuck soon holding up the line.

Speaker 2 (01:12:34):
Yeah, rible, Well here in I don't know a lot
of places around here, they'll have a sign if the kid,
if the person's too young, I can't buy alcohol in
this lane.

Speaker 3 (01:12:44):
That would be a smart thing to do, because for
whatever reason, our self checkouts were not open at that time,
which is where I usually go for alcohol, because then
someone just comes and looks at my driver's license and
I'm not holding up a whole aisle of people.

Speaker 2 (01:13:00):
Yeah, sure, I like that, but also those signs help creepers,
and so that's kind of a bad thing. At the
same time, just saying what you.

Speaker 3 (01:13:08):
Mean, Jeff and his punch would get.

Speaker 1 (01:13:10):
That line to.

Speaker 2 (01:13:12):
You want to come to a party at my house.
I've got four Jack dagless, and I have a bunch
of leftover zema from Aaron. Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (01:13:25):
Oh is there anything else you guys want to talk about?
Any other suggested articles or topics of the day. This
was supposed to be a TikTok based podcast. Uh, we
were going to talk about how sad it is the
TikTok's going away. I guess we did.

Speaker 2 (01:13:40):
TikTok.

Speaker 1 (01:13:41):
Oh, here's a headline. I just want to see a
blood shoots out of Jeff's nose. I'm struggling to go
back to Skyrim after Starfield no blood. Okay, I'll just
cut this out. That was a video game reference for
anyone that doesn't know.

Speaker 3 (01:13:58):
I don't really play to watch this video or care
about this post this moment in time on the show,
but I didn't think about this ever. But there's an
article here on what happens to the rock a Feller
Center Christmas tree because the tree comes down and there's

(01:14:20):
this eleven ton tree on a crane, and that's crazy.
It says that the tree came from Massachusetts and when
they take the tree down, it gets cut up and
take into a yard in New Jersey and it's milled
into two by fours. So interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:14:45):
I wonder if that came up because of the word
Rockefeller and all of our talk about Robert Barns.

Speaker 3 (01:14:49):
Probably my guess is yes, but I didn't never think
about that. But yeah, you have this fucking huge like here.
If I have a tree, I just put it out
and then they come and taken away on tree removal day.
But when you have an eleven ton Christmas tree, that
is quite an ordeal to get it back out of
the city and all the needles. Think about the think

(01:15:12):
about the needles that fall off as they're removing it.

Speaker 1 (01:15:16):
Oh yeah, yeah, there's one by my work that has
to be about as big as the Rockefeller Center one,
if not bigger. But it's it's uh. If anyone wants.

Speaker 2 (01:15:26):
To look put up by a company run by an
even douche a Robert Barren.

Speaker 1 (01:15:30):
Yeah kinda. There's the family that owns a lot of
property around the South Coast Plaza. It's one of the bigger,
if one of the biggest shopping malls in the United States.
But it's also like posh It's and I work. But
the Christmas tree there is humongous, but it's also not
all tree. They like bring in a giant, giant, giant

(01:15:52):
tree and then they like fluff it up with like
fake branches, so it's yeah, it's a mixtures.

Speaker 3 (01:15:59):
South Coasts is a little bit above my pay grade
as far as regular shopping, but I do like that
the the Boudine Cafe is right there next to the
Disney Store and Seize Candy. I could park in one
place and hit the only three places I can afford

(01:16:21):
and care about.

Speaker 1 (01:16:21):
At the sour Dough, wash it down with some chocolate,
and then go crazy on carbs and shop at the
Disney Store.

Speaker 3 (01:16:27):
Yes, huh, Yeah. I used to work across from South
Coast Plaza, so I would go over there on lunch
and just like do that triangle. I'd take like one
Bordeaux bar back to my desk with me as my
afternoon treat, and I would run around the Disney Store
and buy stuff on sale, and then I would go
back to my work and create.

Speaker 1 (01:16:46):
That when you come here to visit next Okay, yeah,
you should go with sourdough bread and chocolate.

Speaker 3 (01:16:51):
Yeah. Yeah. Please tell your beautiful, beautiful partner Jennifer that
I love her and that I can't wait to spend
an evening at your home. And I will try to
not snore.

Speaker 1 (01:17:02):
She says. She listens to the show, so she might know.
I'm not going to tell her. In fact, we'll quizzer
on it later.

Speaker 3 (01:17:08):
I just want to know if Jeff will also be there.

Speaker 2 (01:17:11):
Me.

Speaker 3 (01:17:11):
Yes, yeah, Jeff one f should get in the car
and then come to I can't.

Speaker 2 (01:17:19):
When is it? When is it?

Speaker 3 (01:17:20):
When it's February twenty sixth through March fourth.

Speaker 2 (01:17:24):
Oh, it's very tempting.

Speaker 1 (01:17:27):
I think you fell asleep just thinking about making that drive.

Speaker 2 (01:17:31):
You need to come to Tonapa this year?

Speaker 3 (01:17:33):
No, No, I want to do that.

Speaker 1 (01:17:34):
That's good.

Speaker 3 (01:17:34):
Sad that get me the dates so I can put
it on my work calendar and we'll figure out to
make that too.

Speaker 1 (01:17:39):
We've got to figure that out because we want to
do a live report from the Clown Motel. As we
talked about, I think in our life I was going to.

Speaker 3 (01:17:45):
Say, yeah, could we do a live podcast from the
clown Motel?

Speaker 1 (01:17:49):
Fuck? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:17:50):
How much is a room there? Is it worth it?

Speaker 1 (01:17:52):
Whatever it's costs, it'll be worth it to record a
podcast in.

Speaker 3 (01:17:57):
Plus, we can take a lot of photos for like
social media and stuff for the Showy should we all
bring one crappy clown costume with us?

Speaker 4 (01:18:06):
No, I'm not putting on a cloust No, that would
be weird red noses at least a red nose or
a way would.

Speaker 1 (01:18:13):
Not appreciate us walking around in clown cos.

Speaker 3 (01:18:15):
No, not the whole day. I mean just for some
staged publicity photos for the show.

Speaker 1 (01:18:21):
That's I don't know. Well, we'll have to have a
production meeting, production meeting. Well, all right, okay, I think
it's time for us to wrap this up. Now. What
we haven't done much recently is like, where can you
find us? Because TikTok's going under, But like we're still
out there sort of places some of us are anyway,

(01:18:42):
so like for me of course, for the show. Suggested
articles podcast at gmail dot com, Patreon dot com, slash
suggested articles. It's a free Patreon. It's just a good
place to post our shit. Or I'm kind of on
Twitter and kind of blue Sky at Pod of Thrones

(01:19:03):
using my old podcast name at Pod of Thrones on
those two sources and with TikTok going. That's about it
right now. What about you, Jeff?

Speaker 2 (01:19:13):
You can find me, uh you know what, email me
you very I'm very important at Don Jeville, don jan
velociraptor at gmail dot com.

Speaker 1 (01:19:23):
I do love that, And you're not really doing much
of other social media right now.

Speaker 2 (01:19:27):
Now you can you can find me on I'm kind
of active on Insta, Instagram.

Speaker 3 (01:19:33):
I'm definitely friends with Jeff one f on Insta, So
that's right.

Speaker 1 (01:19:36):
Yea, I am on Instagram too, am I Pod of
Thrones on Instagram? I don't even know, I know.

Speaker 2 (01:19:40):
I am J Sergeant J Space, Sergeant Jaspace, Sergeant J
Sergeant on Instagram.

Speaker 3 (01:19:49):
Look, if we're being totally uh cool here, I just
want to tell everybody that you can find me at
t O A O Turtle on basically everything that's my
end stuff, that's my Twitter, my Blue Sky, my r,
I p soon, TikTok are all t o O Turtle
and then my art services artsy.

Speaker 1 (01:20:11):
Fartsy on Patreon.

Speaker 2 (01:20:12):
I wasn't done. That wasn't done.

Speaker 1 (01:20:15):
Wait what are you not done with?

Speaker 2 (01:20:17):
I was also going to plug my music because do it.
So that's a new thing. I'm trying remedial MDSH theory
at band camp on band camp dot com. That's the
best place, or just google remedial mdash theory. Uh, there's SoundCloud,
there's YouTube, there's yeah, that's out there.

Speaker 3 (01:20:39):
Listen to on the Lunai podcast because our song uh
is by one and only one f Jeff's I love,
I love our song and make them listen to it
sometimes when we're.

Speaker 1 (01:20:55):
And then what other podcasts are you currently plugging?

Speaker 2 (01:20:58):
On? The Luni is very chary.

Speaker 3 (01:21:00):
Yeah, so I on the Lani, I have Walt sent Us.
I think there's maybe one episode.

Speaker 1 (01:21:07):
Of I feel like every time I talk to you,
there's a podcast that you've launched that I didn't know
you launched it.

Speaker 2 (01:21:14):
Okay, that's because she has a problem. Next week, next
time we have Aaron on, it's going to be an intervention.

Speaker 3 (01:21:20):
No, I'm trying to like, I'm trying to step back
a little because it's a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:21:27):
Yeah, yeah, I found Walt sent us, but it's an
episode from twenty twenty one. There's got to be a
different one.

Speaker 3 (01:21:33):
Oh yeah, because that's not all right.

Speaker 1 (01:21:34):
We'll work on this. I don't see it.

Speaker 2 (01:21:35):
Also, where if you want to if you want to
see something cool, if you want to see something cool
in our in our dumb well, my dumb face that
we did a Christmas thing. We did a Christmas party
with the oh shit, with the yeah here here helped
me out. I'm drawing on.

Speaker 1 (01:21:49):
Should have plugged this. A while ago, Aaron arranged a
multi podcast holiday extravaganza with a Lani on that's hard
to say, I'm the Luni and suggested articles and then
b F y t W so we we wound up.
I think we mentioned this in the last episode, but
it is. It will be live now by the time

(01:22:10):
you hear this, it's gone live. We'll post it on
our Patreon, but I'll also put a link to it
in the show notes for this episode. So it's a
YouTube video. It's not a podcast. It's a YouTube so
you can see what we look like if you were,
as a yet unaware and watch us play some Jackbox
games and just generally try to make each other laugh.

Speaker 2 (01:22:26):
And watch me just get yeah, hammered, hammered by all
these jerks in jack box games.

Speaker 1 (01:22:33):
Were you drinking?

Speaker 3 (01:22:35):
Oh yeah, yeah, okay, coke and vodka.

Speaker 2 (01:22:37):
Yeah, yeah, it came up memory.

Speaker 3 (01:22:40):
Yeah I drank a whole bottle of champagne.

Speaker 1 (01:22:42):
Yeah, I wasn't drinking at all, and I didn't remember that.

Speaker 3 (01:22:45):
I know you brought a cup of Starbucks with you
and yeah that was our holiday partiday.

Speaker 2 (01:22:51):
Were you drinking at the games? I don't think so,
oh yeah, just it was just me. I was the
only lush. I think there were a lot of people
having burnt pizza.

Speaker 1 (01:22:59):
But yeah, there's there's some stoners in the group. Okay,
so if you plugged everything we want to plug.

Speaker 2 (01:23:04):
I think so.

Speaker 4 (01:23:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:23:05):
Yeah, Oh check out check out Aaron's art. It's amazing
artsy fartsy Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:23:09):
Well, then, in in honor of all things Algorithm, but
especially TikTok, I think I need to give a very
somber dedication here. I'm going to try not to cry.

Speaker 3 (01:23:20):
All hel hal the algorithm

Speaker 2 (01:23:26):
Have a phone pillow

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