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August 18, 2025 97 mins
This week we are joined by Kierstin, who is, by her own account, a bonafide COMMUNIST.  We take this shocking news in stride as we try to learn what is and isn't actual Communism, and how Kierstin's political and economic beliefs shape her feelings about Technology, The Algorithm, and Taco Bell.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:03):
A Podcast Network. Dial up those VPNs, put on your
tinfoil hats, and hey did you hear chat? GPT five
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for suggested articles a podcast. Okay, tell you, buddy, it's

(00:43):
all you?

Speaker 3 (00:44):
No you is the one Jeff episode Lead you guys
CNR here again, just kidding into Aaron.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
Right, Aaron, you want to get the show running because
he doesn't.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
Oh my god, she was.

Speaker 3 (00:55):
I just was mentioning that you have a guest as
well as getting you.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
Yeah, we're getting to that.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
Oh my god.

Speaker 4 (01:03):
Okay, Jeff, I've always forgets about me.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
Oh fuck, oh fuck, that was cold. That was cold.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
I was just letting my two dads fight while I
entertained a guest appreciate it.

Speaker 5 (01:17):
Well, you're always the one, and I'm usually not paying
attention joff, So I don't know what happens after the Instagram.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
Welcome people to the show.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
You just did.

Speaker 5 (01:31):
Welcome back, everybody, Welcome to our podcast Suggested Articles. That's
I'm Jeff, I'm Jeff, and with us today is Aaron Hey,
and we have a very special guest, a communist.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
Hello, Kirsten the Communist.

Speaker 4 (01:55):
Mm hm cool.

Speaker 3 (01:57):
I like that.

Speaker 5 (01:58):
That's like you did you love spelling stuff with Kyse,
don't you, Jeff, in your white's dark?

Speaker 1 (02:10):
Its got to be a k man.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
Aaron, you were going to say something, Wow, I think.

Speaker 4 (02:16):
I need to leave.

Speaker 3 (02:17):
Oh, don't talk, just kidding.

Speaker 5 (02:22):
Don't don't leave me with these people, kirched. I mean,
Aaron's okay. Aaron's okay, Jeff. He's in the mood. He's
making me work today. I don't like it.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
It's like this is like when Ralph Garmon gets mad
at Kevin Smith on Babylon, or used to when Kevin
was so.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
Look, here's my point is that Kirsten, in the few
minutes I've known her, seems lovely. But I have no
idea what's going on right now.

Speaker 4 (02:48):
Okay, it's okay. We're in this together. Jeff.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
I know is that you keep calling her a communist? Yes,
and I don't know what the game plan is, So
take it away.

Speaker 3 (02:57):
You're the first communist I've ever cared for. I can
legitimately say that because they said my friend Kirsten the Communist,
and I went yay, And so you have that distinction
of being the first and possibly only I had. I
don't meet a wide range.

Speaker 4 (03:13):
Well, you know the government takes care of that.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
Introduce her again, Introduce her again.

Speaker 3 (03:19):
Aaron, introduce who again?

Speaker 2 (03:23):
You were just you were just rallying. You were saying,
we're hearing for try Oh my god, soundboard.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
I'm sorry, I forgot that soundbot is also a character
on this show. So what I want to say is,
you're the first communist I've ever cheered for.

Speaker 5 (03:38):
Yeah, oh dude, not cool.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
Not I haven't found any applies you find any more?

Speaker 3 (03:45):
Right, Jeff should be allowed to a committal soundboard.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
I don't think so either.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
I found it. There you go.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
Yeah, I'm not introducing Kirsten. She's been introduced like six times.
She's a communist.

Speaker 6 (04:00):
Effects.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
We are off to a rocket started day.

Speaker 3 (04:02):
Oh so your sound effects are sixty percent louder than
the guests.

Speaker 4 (04:06):
And also eighteen minutes longer.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
I don't know how happening.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
So sound, but.

Speaker 3 (04:17):
Jeff, we're taking sounds like away from you immediately.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
You don't know how much pain I had to go
through the set him up.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
Trust me, we're feeling a lot of pain right now.

Speaker 3 (04:29):
That was single handedly the longest clip of applause I
have ever heard.

Speaker 4 (04:36):
They had to pay people to club them.

Speaker 3 (04:38):
It's like the last episode of Golden Girls, the final
bow of the like special people that got to watch
that show when it went off the air wasn't as
much clapping as that clippy just play.

Speaker 4 (04:52):
My parents didn't clut that much that my graduation got right.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
Yeah, the whole point was that we're very excited that
Kirsten's here. Yes, yes, that's what I was trying to say.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
The gong and the gong yeah wow, Okay, Jeff, let
me ask you this. Do we have an email bag
this week?

Speaker 2 (05:14):
Well? That depends. I mean, Kirsten's your friend. Like, there
is a new listener named Rob. Thank you Rob for
Welcome to the Arena. But he wanted to know more
about why I'm obsessed with Taco Bell, and I don't
really know if that's an appropriate topic.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
So oh yeah, you know what, let's do it. Let's
do it. Thank you Rob? Wa Yay, Rob Roby? How
you doing?

Speaker 4 (05:40):
Aaron tries not to hook up with somebody che possible days.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
Trying to hook up?

Speaker 3 (05:49):
Oh god, hey, look, online dating is shitty. So I
got to hit on guests.

Speaker 4 (05:55):
Okay you yeah, shoot your shot. I believe in you.

Speaker 3 (05:58):
Yeah, thanks, thanks.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
Well Rob's not a guest yet, but you know, we'll see.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
Yeah, we'll see. I thinks, all.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
Right, So what is your obsession with Taco Bell?

Speaker 4 (06:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (06:09):
Well I'm not obsessed with Taco Bell. It's just, uh,
as fast food goes, it is some of the more
edible food. I mean McDonald's really, like I don't know,
like if you guys, do you guys have a go
to fast food, Like, if you need a quick meal,
where do you go?

Speaker 3 (06:26):
McDonald's is literally like zero point six miles from my house,
So that's the fastest fast food I can cut put
in my face whole. But I like a good Wendy's.
I've recently discovered there's not a giant It's not an
enormous one like at Carl's. There's a smaller version of

(06:47):
that type of burger at Wendy's that you can create
for about five dollars and it's like half the size.
I said Wendy's again, didn't I mem burger.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
King Carl's at one point?

Speaker 3 (07:00):
Yeah, Wow, it's fine. I don't eat a lot of fast.

Speaker 4 (07:04):
Food, eat a lot of pizza.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
Yeah, fast food.

Speaker 5 (07:10):
Don't eat a lot of fast food, but lately it's
been a whopper from Burger King. No cheese, it's close by,
and I like the smell.

Speaker 4 (07:19):
Yeah, no cheese, full of the smell like an apple
pie on a windows.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
I float across the road down the street.

Speaker 5 (07:31):
Fun fact, They're like, here's here's your crown and your whoppers, sir.

Speaker 3 (07:37):
I worked at the Royalty of fast food within like
a six month period. In high school, I worked at
Dairy Queen for three days. I was never going to
be as good as the owner's daughter. It was a
franchise and the owner and her daughter were there like
all hours. It was open, and I was the extra
help and I was like bye. And then I went

(07:57):
to Burger King, where I was the I was the
flam broiler machine girl. And I'll tell you what, my
skin was very greasy. In high school. I didn't need
that extra like hot environment. And also I didn't feel
like a Kang working there.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
That's real life, Kirsten. What is your go to fast
food if any and how because you're defining trade is communism,
how does that inform.

Speaker 3 (08:23):
The communists don't eat food or.

Speaker 4 (08:29):
The yeah, we sure, I'm gonna refer I'm going to
refer back to what my sister says when I get
my mits on a Baja blast, I turned into that
one scene from Twilight where Edwards sucking fella's blooding and stuff.
So not to copy you, just but I, I too
will fuck up a baja Now.

Speaker 3 (08:51):
Would you say you're a Mountain Dew fan? I know
we were, just I'm like, I'm a high dis bear.
They didn't pay us. You're not getting free average, but
I will average for Mountain Dew because they keep making
fun flavors. Do you like all the flavored Mountain Dew's
or do you just like Baja Blast?

Speaker 4 (09:07):
Because I used to think that I don't like mountain
dew until I had a Baha Blast.

Speaker 3 (09:11):
Okay, so this just came out. This is dragon fruit
mountain Dew Chef's kiss.

Speaker 4 (09:17):
It is.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
Delicious. You still feel like you drank six cups of sugar,
so you're very hyper when it's done. Even in my
advanced age that I'm at, it wakes me up.

Speaker 4 (09:33):
At fan stage.

Speaker 3 (09:36):
You like my forty fifth birthday. My forty fifth birthday
is in days, and I'm feeling a little old.

Speaker 4 (09:47):
I wouldn't pay you for forty Thanks.

Speaker 3 (09:49):
I really appreciate that.

Speaker 4 (09:51):
Fifty maybe, but I don't know.

Speaker 3 (09:53):
No, I didn't realize all communists were dicks.

Speaker 4 (09:58):
Hey, you know you read the books. It's fun.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
I did not see that coming.

Speaker 3 (10:09):
It's okay, Kirsten knows that I have a habit of
hitting on our guests. She's just trying to like make
a clear boundary.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
Now she's just making work for it. You're gonna have
to work for this one. It's hard to.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
Get to Rob. I'll just say, Taco Bell's cheap. I
like Wendy's, but Wendy's is like triple the price for
you know, a simple quick meal on the go, and
Taco Bell is also funny because you know it's probably
gonna give you diarrhea. I mean, I've made that joke
a million times. I accident, and I don't have that problem.

(10:46):
I think Taco bills like separates the week.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
From this strong That's what I think. I have a
problem with Taco Bells.

Speaker 4 (10:53):
Yeah, well, you don't need to talk about a ship yourself.

Speaker 3 (10:58):
Zero minutes since a.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
Yeah story, Okay, last time, guys, what's this?

Speaker 1 (11:06):
I'm anybody who knows me is coming on the show.

Speaker 3 (11:09):
You know what's this? One half a dick one half
of Trump's dick sucking dance. I'm sorry, wow, okay, I
can't help myself.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
I can't. I have to turn away just to see
my monitor.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
So, so if you just heard Aaron Laws make a
joke about a dance she was doing, and you're like, what, well,
we are putting these shows up on YouTube now, so
search for suggested articles on YouTube. And I should probably
put a link to the channel in the show notes,
because I'm yeah, I don't think you have.

Speaker 3 (11:40):
Are you in a smoke filled casino from the nineteen
like fifties? By the way, why do you or like
doctor Merlina Evans on days of our lives? Like a
blur filter. It's so foggy.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
If you're room, you want me to turn it off?

Speaker 3 (11:59):
No?

Speaker 2 (12:02):
No, no, happy, now you're happy?

Speaker 3 (12:04):
Was in the background like you are muted as well.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
I'm on an iPad today so much.

Speaker 4 (12:13):
Oh, Jeff looks like he said a ransom video.

Speaker 3 (12:16):
Yeah, no, look.

Speaker 1 (12:18):
Sand help this is this is also much warmer in
here than in the rest of that.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
This is on par for what Jeff's video normally looks like.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
I cannot wait now till till one f Jeff here
starts taking off layers because it's too hot in the closet.

Speaker 3 (12:34):
Oh man, I wish you had had time to queue
hot in here by Nelly onto your soundbod.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
If it's on the sound oh my god.

Speaker 4 (12:42):
Oh he's got it, I doubt it. If it's gonna
go on, I'm gonna play for so hot.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
Okay, Well, that look at us like a content strike
on YouTube. So I got to keep that to two
seconds or less.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
Okay, Oh god, who the fuck?

Speaker 2 (13:01):
Okay? Anyway, that was pretty much it for the mail bag.
It hasn't been that long since we released our last episode. Yeah,
we're recording ahead a schedule for once. So so so
what's up?

Speaker 1 (13:13):
What's up?

Speaker 2 (13:14):
What's up? What are you here to teach us today? Well,
we talk a lot about technology and stuff, but we.

Speaker 5 (13:20):
Also talk a lot about the economy, and we talk
about how capitalism sucks. So who better, who who better
and more informed than a communist to to you know,
join us in our hate for billionaires and why the
world is turning to ship and and all of that.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
You know. Well, here's the thing, why don't we start
with something educational, can because I have questions. I'm not
a card carrying anything ist, really racist.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
I mean, no, you're right, you're right. Sorry, sorry, Jeff's
not a racist.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
Wow wow, Okay, anyway, sound on the other hand, if
he talks to me, will going him out?

Speaker 4 (14:04):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
So I grew up in the eighties. I'm an old man,
and uh it started then because like Russia was communist
and communism meant breadlines and uh secret police. That was
that was the definition of communism from all like media
growing up in the eighties and now today, communism. If

(14:28):
I were to take mass media and our politicians really
on both sides of the aisle word for it, communism
is also socialism. They are the same thing and also
bad and also anything that we don't like.

Speaker 4 (14:43):
Yeah, I've also been a victim of the statement communism
is when government do stuff. So basically, I guess I'll
saying distro respondo what you said. So there's a varying
degree of different political ideologies. I am not a statist.

(15:07):
I'm more on the libertarian side of the left. So
if we take not to bring up those shitty political
compass tests, but if we want to like describe it
like that economic policy. So the right will be full
on capitalism, the left will be full on communism. I'm
way on the left, but then if you go up

(15:30):
to authoritarianism and down to libertarianism, I would be in
like the communist libertarian quadrant. So I don't believe that
a state is necessarily required to run a smooth society.
I don't think that a hierarchy is necessary. I'm I'm

(15:52):
honestly more like an anarchist, but that word is kind
of I think it gets a bad rap just because
of every thing in the media and what's been unfortunately
done before under the guise of anarchism. But uh no,
I don't believe with the USSR, and I am under
the belief and people will disagree with me, but I'm

(16:14):
under the belief that true communism has never actually been tried.
It's just been dick bags kind of preying on the
workers in order to you know, buck everybody over and
get as much power as possible.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
Well, we're told that the shining bastion or whatever of
communism right now in the world would be China. But
to me, when I look at what we see out
of China, it looks extremely capitalist to me.

Speaker 4 (16:38):
Yeah, so a lot of people. It's also like so
the for example, the Nazis called themselves socialists, but they
weren't actually socialists. China can call itself communists, they're not
actually communists. The Democratic Republic of North Korea can call

(16:59):
itself a democratic republic. It's not a democratic republic. I
think that. And also just the United States calls anything
it doesn't like communism. But I think that a lot
of countries or just leaders in general, will call themselves
something in order to draw a specific demographic out and

(17:19):
then just do the complete opposite. I mean it happens here,
but like, yeah, like China has an economy that is
extremely that has ran extremely similar to ours. So I
don't know, we are not immune to propaganda. The government
just be saying, shit, he hate those guys communists.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
Well, okay, there was there was a I don't know
if do you do social media, Kirsten, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Do you were you ever on TikTok because that seems
to be a real line.

Speaker 4 (17:47):
In the Yeah, i'm a I'm a I'm kind of
embarrassed on how long I am on TikTok.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
Somedays but yeah, do you pos TikTok should be plug
anything right now off the bat? Oh god, you don't.

Speaker 4 (18:00):
I am not famous by any means, like kind of
just get on there to kind of dick around. I
wouldn't call myself a creator. I'm just on there to
post stupid shit.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
I like stupid shit. But okay, well, we'll talk again
later on a live reaction later on if you want
to be our next segment.

Speaker 4 (18:24):
Because it's random, like, Okay, this is funny, funny, funny,
and then it's just me yelling about Donald Trump. So
it's very you know, I got a mix of things.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
Okay with that. But there was a time when TikTok
was about to go offline kind of did for like
twelve hours or whatever. It was stupid bullshit, but everyone,
well not everyone, but a lot of people started downloading
China's version.

Speaker 4 (18:45):
Of I'm also on there.

Speaker 2 (18:48):
Okay, so I sat on red note a little bit.
I never posted anything or started making new pen pals,
but it amused me. Uh But a lot of the
feedback sort of coming out of that. What American we're
seeing as they were starting to talk to and watch
videos of Chinese citizens is that they seem to have
established maybe some minimum standards of living like people people have.

(19:14):
They might work tough jobs in factories that pay nothing,
but yet there's still, at least according to social media,
there's still food, there's still apartments. People are still able
to get by, which is often not the case here.
So like, where what is China? Like? Is there a
way to define their economic model or the way they

(19:36):
treat their citizens in a way that's different than us?

Speaker 4 (19:40):
So what I would say, And I'm not like an
expert specifically like on China, but from what I do
know what I've read, and I also like talk to
some people on Red Note because I was one of
the ones that was like, oh, hey, guys, what's going
on over here? But I think, like I was saying before,

(20:00):
I think it's a varying degree, kind of like a spectrum.
I do think their economy runs similarly to ours, but
maybe I would place it under maybe democratic socialism would
be the closest thing to it. So not exactly socialism,
not exactly capitalism, but it takes socialist elements and kind

(20:24):
of puts it into capitalism to keep their people happy.
So that's kind of running.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
I mean it feels like we're on the verge of
our machine not running anymore.

Speaker 4 (20:35):
Yeah, you know, Empire is only last like two hundred.

Speaker 5 (20:42):
One thing I do know about China is they are
pretty awesome at engineering. They have some like infrastructure that
is just mind bogglingly cool they have. Oh and they're
whatever capitalist version of capitalism they do seems to bring
innovation and much better than what we do over here
because some of the products they put out are just

(21:05):
so far.

Speaker 1 (21:06):
Ahead or much more daring. No, what we hit, what
we get. You know, when when we consider the.

Speaker 5 (21:12):
Tesla, the the the electric car or you know, people
do not us fuck Tesla. But but when you see
what the Chinese cars do, it's so crazy.

Speaker 1 (21:21):
They do tank turns, for god's sakes.

Speaker 5 (21:24):
Oh, they have better range, they have they have much
cooler features inside much you know, not not to mind
bitcoin either. They actual features that will make your life better,
you know, as a driver, yeah, as the consumer.

Speaker 2 (21:38):
Yeah, but my friends, Tesla just got in rock added
in to its operating system. Now that's cool.

Speaker 3 (21:46):
Now when you say your friend like someone you plan
to talk to forever, because that sounds annoying, I've lost
a car, that's right.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
I really really like the guy, and I do believe
that he will probably not by a tesla again, is
my best guess. I think he I think he's learned
that Elon might not be. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (22:05):
I'm not gonna bite. If I had Grock in my car,
I would drive it off a cliff.

Speaker 1 (22:10):
Yeah, I would. To God.

Speaker 4 (22:16):
A little bit just ruined Twitter. Now it's going to
ruin my nice drive.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
Yeah exactly.

Speaker 5 (22:21):
I've seen people with stickers on their car that say
that like that.

Speaker 3 (22:28):
I would say like one in five teslas up here
have something like that on them because we're such a
progressive area that people are ashamed to own them but
can't necessarily afford to replace them because they thought they
were saving the economy, saving the environment and being you know,
tree huggers and they didn't know. You know, it's like

(22:50):
a it's a deeper discuss up here for.

Speaker 4 (22:53):
The people with well as it should be. It should
it should those people, It should be a constant like
that scene from Game of Thrones where Surces getting her
walk of shame. Yeah, what do you mean you bought that?
When's the date specifically?

Speaker 1 (23:12):
Yeah exactly.

Speaker 3 (23:13):
Yeah, I need to see paperwork.

Speaker 4 (23:15):
Ye, sir, I'm going to start pulling up my god.

Speaker 3 (23:22):
Look, if Dean Kane can join the ICE, I can
start like a Tesla pullover crew.

Speaker 5 (23:27):
Dean Kane is just like, well, no, he's joining the
long tradition of like Steven Seagal being a deputy down
in Louisiana.

Speaker 3 (23:38):
Yeah, Elvis wanted to Oh yeah, this was like a
secret spy for drugs and narcotics for Nixon. Let's not
forget that.

Speaker 1 (23:46):
One more reason he sucks besides being a pedo.

Speaker 4 (23:50):
Okay, which, Jeff, which one's worse? Jeff, Well, let me.

Speaker 1 (23:55):
Tell you that's rough.

Speaker 3 (23:57):
That's hard to say. I mean, we elected a into
office here, so there's a general status.

Speaker 4 (24:05):
Why the liberals made that up?

Speaker 5 (24:07):
Yeah, yeah, it's all Yeah, that's that's that's as completely unfounded.

Speaker 1 (24:11):
What are you talking about it.

Speaker 3 (24:12):
That's weird because there's like an a live human woman
that he raped when she was like thirteen or fourteen.
That is literally telling people in the news right now
that she was assaulted and nothing is happening.

Speaker 5 (24:23):
Aaron, That only works if you believe, oh, I don't
know the truth and stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (24:27):
So as as an assault survivor, who's none of her
friends at the time, like closest friends, like people I
thought were my rider dies. F of them didn't believe me.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
Wow, that's anything.

Speaker 3 (24:40):
Yeah, but that's the mentality of if I don't if
I don't acknowledge it, it didn't happen, rather than to
be scared that what is with the panning camera? Jeffrey Shoe,
Sure it's.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
The iPad man. Just keep talking. Fuck, everything's fine.

Speaker 3 (24:57):
I can't. I was talking about real life trauma.

Speaker 4 (25:00):
Yeah, you're interrupting your mental ship.

Speaker 3 (25:02):
Yeah, you're over there. Norma Desmond like you're face. Are
you ready for your close up?

Speaker 1 (25:07):
You'd rather you'd rather play with you than go to women?

Speaker 2 (25:11):
What the fuck is christ Everything's fine?

Speaker 4 (25:14):
You were saying, Aaron, I'm so sorry for the rude man.

Speaker 3 (25:17):
That's that's fuck. Uh No. I I just think it's
interesting that, like, you know, we if it's not a
rich white man, we jump right on board and say
you definitely rape that person. But if it's you know,
mm hmmm, idiot face, dickhead.

Speaker 5 (25:36):
Sure wait wait wait, jeff I have you know did
you hear what happened in Utah? There was a guy
the Senate president here right? Or is it the Speaker
of the House, I I can't tell one of the
big state people actually had had a nephew that that
raped somebody, sexually assaulted somebody. And he changed the law

(26:00):
in time for He put forward a law that allowed
the situation to get changed where he's not going to
have to tell people, he's not gonna be on the registry,
he's not going to do time all this stuff.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
And it was a thirteen.

Speaker 5 (26:11):
Basically, it changes the age of consent, or fucks with
the age of consent or something.

Speaker 1 (26:14):
I could be wrong. I need this way, I need Carrie.
God damn, I worst carry.

Speaker 2 (26:18):
Just kidding, only Carrie was somewhere nearby.

Speaker 3 (26:20):
Well, I mean, look here, Harry Potter, you live in
a closet under the stairs. Okay, I don't think carry's
in there with you.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
Do you really want it? Do you really want to
put somebody off his magic? Do you look? Look?

Speaker 5 (26:32):
Okay, I'm a white Cis male and you're gonna and
I'm magic.

Speaker 1 (26:36):
Now, really if you want to get on my bad side.

Speaker 5 (26:40):
But anyway, he says he didn't change a lot of
help is relative. But the court case literally cited this
new the new law as part of the reason he yeah,
had his charges reduced, and it's so gross, it's so gross.

Speaker 3 (26:56):
Just so we're clear, I'm ready to fight in American
to so me too.

Speaker 4 (27:01):
Me too. Utah State Senate President prompted law change that
helped a teen charge with child.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
Read Yeah, that's his nephews two yeah.

Speaker 3 (27:11):
Yeah, and they're saying teen, but he was probably what
eighteen nineteen?

Speaker 4 (27:15):
Yeah, he was eighteen.

Speaker 3 (27:16):
Yeah, Because that's what makes the story disappear from people's minds,
is they're like, oh, well.

Speaker 4 (27:23):
Oh and it was an older teen.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
Yeah, it was motherfucker I know.

Speaker 4 (27:27):
Right.

Speaker 3 (27:27):
Yeah, Hey, if it leads, it leads. Yeah, there's grass
on the playing field.

Speaker 4 (27:33):
All those of you, for those of you in Utah,
do not ever vote for or support Stuart Adams ever. Again,
he's a piece of shit who thinks that eighteen year
olds can fuck thirteen year olds.

Speaker 3 (27:46):
Yeah, God Jesus, I had I slept with someone much, much,
much much older than me at one point in my
life when I was still probably too young, and my
brain was not fully formed to make that decision.

Speaker 4 (28:01):
Well, because it wasn't. It wasn't your it wasn't my decision,
like it was. You're not the fucking adult. It's the
adults fucking responsibility to say no, like you're a kid,
where's your mother?

Speaker 3 (28:12):
Our high school drama teacher's husband groomed a bunch of
us and I was like, I'm cool, thanks, And I
never was alone with him, but he sexually resulted my friend.
There was a big civil case in southern California, like
a year or two ago, where she could never get
legal justice because she he was protected because it was

(28:34):
the teacher's husband and like a volunteer, but she was
able to get civil justice from the I mean she
wanted like a dollar or something, but it was to.

Speaker 4 (28:42):
Get that oh yeah, like a symbolic.

Speaker 1 (28:46):
Yeah, yeah, you know.

Speaker 4 (28:48):
I think I would kill my spouse if I found
out they were doing some shit like that.

Speaker 3 (28:52):
Right, it's just gross. Yes, sorry both Jeff's it's your show,
it's your guest.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
Well, I'll take something Aaron said a little while ago
and bring it back around to communism, which was the
part about where if it's a rich white guy who
gets accused, we tend not to believe him. And there
is something darkly fascinating about our society where it feels
like we have been brought up to believe that wealth
is virtue. And I don't know exactly where that came from,

(29:24):
but I'm just gonna say probably Ronald Reagan.

Speaker 4 (29:27):
It all goes back to that mother. But he did
the only good thing Ronter Reagan ever did was give
us the first gender neutral bathroom in the United States
his grave.

Speaker 1 (29:37):
So honestly, I was so ready to jump on this.
I'm like, no, he did two things because he died.
But we had that covered.

Speaker 4 (29:47):
You know, we two and one.

Speaker 3 (29:49):
Okay, Look, he may not have been everyone's cup of tea,
but I think we would all agree that no matter
what he did wrong, he's not nearly as bad as
what we've seen come out of that side of the
political party in recent years. He was gross, and he
did bad things.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
A lot of bad things.

Speaker 4 (30:09):
He did lay a lot of the groundwork.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 (30:12):
He started so sneaker laws little like doorways to grossness.

Speaker 2 (30:20):
Well, it was also like the kind of stuff he
was able to get away with, I mean with the
I mean, given the Oliver North got pardoned or something
later on that, like, no one saw repercussions for the
Iran Contra affair, nothing significant, No one had repercussions for
the way we ignored the AIDS crisis. I mean, there's

(30:42):
he dismantled mental health care in our country, the cut
free college or reasonably priced college. He undid that because
too many black people were getting up at you or
something like.

Speaker 4 (30:57):
He also betrayed the working class because he was the president.
Yeah right, well he also what's crazy about him being
a union buster? I'm sorry if this derails the pod.
He was the union president for either the Writers Guild
or the Actors Union actors, and before this most recent
strike that we saw, I think last year or two

(31:18):
years ago, he held the record as the one who
led the longest strike that they ever had in their
entire history. And then as soon as he gets elected,
he gets all these workers to vote for him, and
as soon as that motherfucker gets elected, he goes, you
guys want write for? What? What do you need rights for?

Speaker 2 (31:35):
It's actually kind of funny you bring that up, because
he was more liberal back in his early days when
he was an actor in Hollywood and all that, And
it seems like if you sort of read between the
lines on his biography, it kind of seems like Nancy
Reagan might have been the one that pushed.

Speaker 3 (31:51):
Him into that more.

Speaker 4 (31:52):
Yeah, well she she was apparently the throat goats, so.

Speaker 2 (31:54):
Yes, right, she sucked at Dick like nobody's business, and you.

Speaker 4 (31:58):
Know, man decorated and I would commit.

Speaker 3 (32:03):
You know, I think my point was that I was
trying to create a pro Wagan narrative here so much
as I was like, we think he's pretty bad, but like,
my god, how much like Donald Reagan did a lot
of stuff that set us up for failure later, still

(32:25):
waiting by stick bags like uh oh god, the one
that disowned his gay daughter or bisexual daughter. Bush to
fucking just an idiot, just like a slightly less scandalous

(32:47):
version of Donald Trump, to be honest, just like this
little boy who likes Who's and Cheney was fucking crazy.

Speaker 4 (32:54):
Yeah. Well, the Republican Party used to used to keep
the evil inside. I mean, of course there was a
back in the day, like if you go back to
like the six fifties or sixties, they were keeping it inside.
But I do feel like there was a period because
I remember when I was younger.

Speaker 3 (33:11):
It's like a morality thing. After the Kennedys, I feel.

Speaker 4 (33:14):
Like, yeah, well they were still awful, but they were
still like, let me show a bit of decorum, let
me let me keep the bad things inside. Let me
go say this in private where nobody can hear me.
But yeah, and then Donald Trump came in and was
apparently saying what they were all thinking.

Speaker 3 (33:30):
Because I have had this fight with one f jaft
multiple times on this podcast. But I feel the.

Speaker 5 (33:37):
Way about Oh my god, don't start, don't look theons.

Speaker 3 (33:43):
I feel the way I feel about Donald Trump that
I feel about like current billionaires, Whereas I don't ever
think billionaires are a good idea. I think there should
be a limit of wealth. But I do think that
when it comes to billionaires versus like old timy millionaires,

(34:05):
the philanthropy is not there for the same reasons. It
wasn't as much about tax cuts as just appearances back then,
so they at least had a concept of like giving
makes people not hate you, And now it's just how
much money can I get off of my tax bill?
When they donate to charity, there's no I don't They

(34:29):
don't care if anyone thinks they're a deck anymore. I
think that's the attitude shift that pisses me off more.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
Okay, erin a couple of things.

Speaker 5 (34:36):
I don't think any rich people are actually donating to
charities anymore.

Speaker 1 (34:41):
I don't buy that.

Speaker 5 (34:42):
And if they are, certainly not enough for tax break,
and they don't need that because they just have government
taking away Yeah, they're taking away health care and services
from the poor so they can get those tax cuts.

Speaker 1 (34:55):
They they don't need to worry about that. Damn. What
was the other thing?

Speaker 3 (35:01):
I don't like billionaires. I'm not saying Robert Barons are
people you'd want to like, go on a family holiday with.
I'm just saying the absolute lack of a moral compass
is a parent more now than it was then.

Speaker 4 (35:19):
I don't think they ever had a moral compass, but
but I do think I do think it comes back
to what I was saying before, like there was kind
of a little bit of a culture where it was like, oh,
let me portray myself to the media as good, so
these workers don't come to my house with a guillotine
and kill me. And now it's just like, come to

(35:41):
my house, the police will shoot you.

Speaker 3 (35:43):
That's what hiss me off.

Speaker 4 (35:45):
Because even billionaires, yea, even billionaires back then would be like, oh,
I'm donating to this place, but then I'm going to
go into these mining towns and kidnap these people's wives
and murder them. But the news won't report on that.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
So, like I'm just saying, I think they were always terrible.

Speaker 5 (36:02):
It's just there's been a perception, a shift in the
perception of how you know, That's what I think it is.

Speaker 4 (36:07):
Well, because billionaires have successfully, like I mean, they we
live pretty much in an oligarchy where they can do
whatever the hell they want to us. We can't do
shit to them because the police, in the National Guarden
whoever else will come and fucking kill us. Not that
they wouldn't before, but I do think we had more
sympathy way back when. But yeah, they definitely don't. They

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don't have to keep up appearances.

Speaker 1 (36:30):
So why you know, John Jacob astri can kiss my butt, Aaron.

Speaker 3 (36:36):
I was thinking more of people like Carnegie, who had
a lot of bad things about him, but he truly
did dump a ton of money back into his town.

Speaker 4 (36:48):
So they didn't kill am Maaron.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
Yes, they didn't kill him.

Speaker 4 (36:53):
Yeah, Oh good, wasn't it Carnegie who was like one
of the reasons we had weed was it legal for
so long?

Speaker 1 (37:02):
Hold on?

Speaker 2 (37:04):
Oh? Was he?

Speaker 1 (37:05):
I mean, was a gen of all of all the
people on this podcast area.

Speaker 4 (37:08):
Well not the main reason, but like he was the
because it came because there was something about like one
of the fucking billionaires. It like, uh it was gonna
be uh funk, what's it called when you have one
business or another business in their competition. It was going
to be competition for one of them. And they were like,
we got to make it illegal.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
Round right all.

Speaker 5 (37:29):
You know what the only history, all the history about
weed industry I know, came from Pineapple Express.

Speaker 4 (37:36):
So it was one of the billionaires. I don't fuck
it remember, but yeah, yeah, anyway, Aaron, I respect your opinion,
but I don't respect billionaires.

Speaker 3 (37:48):
So I just I wanted to look up a couple
of facts just because that's me. Uh So, labor relations
were in harsh working conditions where the plaint about him,
but he did establish several foundations for like scientific research
and to promote education in towns and to work towards

(38:09):
world peace. He was poor and rose to that wealth,
so he felt like he earned it in a different
way than someone like Trump who walked into like a
trust fund does. So again I'm not saying this is
a good person. His people worked eighty four hours a week,
so he basically was working his employees as hard as
my current employer is working for me. And I know
that sucks. I'm just saying, at least he did put

(38:33):
some money into programs that helped people, versus Trump's and
Musk who are like, fuck you and your kids. I
don't give shit by my stakes.

Speaker 4 (38:44):
I get what Aaron's saying.

Speaker 1 (38:46):
Okay, Well, my biggest objection to all of this is
I'm so and which I feel like has been ignored
from the beginning.

Speaker 5 (38:52):
Is I just don't want to talk about Trump on
the podcast because I'm fucking done with them.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
I hear about him all the time, or we're bombard
at it by him through the media and through all
the ship he does.

Speaker 5 (39:02):
And you know, I go out in the world, I
see his fucking flags and I see his face everywhere.
I need to have a safe space where I don't
talk about that fucker, and.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
And I don't want to.

Speaker 1 (39:12):
I don't want to. I don't think anybody agreed disagrees.

Speaker 5 (39:17):
Well, sorry, anybody with a brain doesn't disagree with you
on how he's He's definitely worse than everybody.

Speaker 4 (39:24):
Yes, actually, the devil from the Bible.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
The devil from the Bible.

Speaker 4 (39:31):
Yeah, good, I do think. I do think when I
say that, I give him too much credit, though, not
to keep talking about him. But he's he's evil, but
he's also a fucking idiot. I feel like the devil
from the Bible has to be smarter.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
Yeah, because who's better looking, has his real hair?

Speaker 4 (39:49):
Yeah, he's got himself. And then the sofa fucker in
the office. So I don't know.

Speaker 3 (39:53):
Oh God, don't get me started on eyebrow sofa fucker.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
Here's what I think. I think we should close up
the mail bag. We've talked all about Taco Bell that
we can talk about.

Speaker 5 (40:04):
Let's take speaking of Don is basically like the Diary
of people.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
Yeah, yeah, thank you Rob for writing in. Why don't
we take a quick commercial break. We'll reset, We need
to give We need to give Jeff a moment to
just take some breaths and calm this. It's about to
fly into a rage too. When we come back. I'd
love to hear, since you've listened to the show, what

(40:31):
you what you think about when you hear all these
stories about we do the horrors of technology? So start
thinking about that and be ready to educate us because
we want to know more about communism with a K.

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Speaker 3 (40:49):
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Speaker 5 (40:54):
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Speaker 6 (40:59):
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Speaker 2 (41:01):
Why it's right there in the title.

Speaker 1 (41:03):
You'll never guess what the F stands for.

Speaker 5 (41:12):
God damn, we're backing Jesus, I quit, I fucking quit.

Speaker 4 (41:17):
There was a fight.

Speaker 2 (41:20):
You know what you would love about this? So it's
a tool called voice mod. But I only set up
this one thing just to make it work for the podcast,
and you would love It's got this cute little wide
eyed character and it's called My first Soundboard, which I
think really says it all, doesn't it.

Speaker 4 (41:36):
It's cute.

Speaker 3 (41:37):
I can tell how you're using it.

Speaker 1 (41:38):
That's a curate.

Speaker 4 (41:39):
I know how fucking long it is.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
Do you want more applause?

Speaker 1 (41:45):
No? No, no, no.

Speaker 3 (41:48):
One wants more applause?

Speaker 4 (41:50):
No no, please do not cheer for me.

Speaker 2 (41:56):
So we're back, all right, So back to talk about
well technology. So there's a lot happening in the world.
We talked about this every Christian you did say you
listened to the show before, right, so it made.

Speaker 4 (42:10):
Me gay this podcast.

Speaker 3 (42:11):
Holy shit, congrats.

Speaker 2 (42:14):
I kind of like that, I mean, better than AI
making it.

Speaker 3 (42:17):
Yeah, right, We're going to be getting a season exist
from a project twenty twenty five founding members for our
gay podcast.

Speaker 4 (42:27):
Ma people Gay.

Speaker 5 (42:29):
Well, it's like, come on, women listen to this podcast
and they get turned off to men completely.

Speaker 4 (42:33):
I get it right there. It's impossible.

Speaker 1 (42:36):
Yeah, you're right, you're right. Now we've done video. There's
just no chance.

Speaker 2 (42:40):
We have no chance to introduce Kirsten to reach everyone
is gay. We're all a little gay anyway. So AI
is taking over the world. It's sort of being forced
down our throats in a lot of different ways. I mean,
I can't search on my phone anymore without having like

(43:02):
a tricky couple of buttons come up and say, hey,
don't you want to add like AI into your search?
And if I click the wrong button, takes me the
app Store when I'm just trying to look at my
search results. Like it's everywhere. People are having are finding
that at work they're being required to use AI tools
even though they know how to do their job just fine,
Aaron raises her hand.

Speaker 4 (43:22):
Yeah, and a lot of it's like wrong, like the
Google search results at the top, Like how many times
has that been wrong? When I've looked at it, I'm
just like, what the fuck are you yapping about?

Speaker 2 (43:31):
They can't be trusted. So we have this tool that
can't be trusted and it's everywhere and we are often
being made to use it. But whether we are or not,
it's omnipresent. So yeah, what what does a what does
a young communist think about where technology is taking our culture, people, civilization.

Speaker 4 (43:55):
Well, my most recent spiral has been so top of
the whole. I think everybody knows by now we are
in a constant We're always being advertised to we never
get a break x y Z, so that's obviously a concern.
But my most recent would be, uh, how much water

(44:18):
is being taken because of AI. I've seen people and
I don't mean to like fear monger or anything, but
I have seen some videos and read some articles where
people are actually concerned about water wars, and I mean
that's that's not necessarily something new in the world. I mean,
even like in South America where they have a lot

(44:39):
of these Like God, I'm blinking over to colum but
like these facilities like power AI, there's a they're losing
access to a lot of safe, clean drinking water. Or
even in the United States and up in Canada, like
what the Native Americans have to deal with in terms
of their quality of water and X y Z. But

(45:02):
I think it's out in one of the Carolinas or
in Tennessee there's this giant I think it's Elon Musks.
There's this giant facility. Yeah, yeah, there's this giant like AI.
I'm blinking on it, but like yeah, yeah, and the
people there are trying to make them fuck off because

(45:22):
it's polluting the show their water and they're losing a
lot of access to their water. Yeah. So that's kind
of what I'm most concerned about, because one little search
on chat GBT, I think takes so much fucking water.
And like, we have places here, like I was saying
on the reservations where a lot of them don't have

(45:43):
clean water, even Flint, Michigan, like that happened when I
was in seventh grade, and they still don't have full
access to like clean drinking water.

Speaker 1 (45:51):
So like.

Speaker 2 (45:53):
And that you know we talk about, you know, ranting
about people that Jeff doesn't want to talk about anymore.
But like, fucking that was Obama. Obama came in and
drank a fake glass of water and betrayed the people
of Flint, Michigan by pretending like that new water source
was good when everybody knew it wasn't. And that's why
they gave him a fake glass of drinking water.

Speaker 4 (46:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:14):
Yeah, I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 5 (46:15):
Obama as a big part of the reason I would
never want to be called a Democrat. Yeah yeah, and
that sounds fucking racist, but it was because of his
policies and shit like.

Speaker 4 (46:25):
That, and also military He's a big reason why the
police are so militarized exactly. So yeah, but yeah, as
a communist, I obviously believe people should have access to
clean drinking water. I actually am offended that something as
necessary as water has been it is now almost a

(46:46):
requirement that we have to pay for it. So yeah,
I'm I'm definitely most I'm worried about that, and I
I don't know, it's just so falesome.

Speaker 5 (46:55):
Also, it's like a it's a it's a it's a
it's been prioritized it's being more and more prioritized towards
these data centers and things like that, and it's something
we need to live. It's something we need to survive.
And they're just like, well, let's just build these fucking
data centers and shit. And it's insane because they know
people are going to die, they know people are going

(47:17):
to lose out on this, and it's gonna be one
more way where they can tax us or force us
to pay money, or eventually get drafted into the water Wars,
which sounds a lot more fun than they'll actually be on.

Speaker 2 (47:29):
Evan Costner tried to warn us, I just realized something, Kirsten.
We got sidetracked by, you know, robber barons and shit.
But if you dare you oh Eron's back, if you
could joy summarize it in a couple of sentences, what
would you say is like, what is the definition of

(47:51):
communism that most of us in America do not actually understand?

Speaker 4 (47:58):
So the most in the sis terms, I would say,
it's a classless, stateless, moneyless society. It's basically where I mean,
if you can kind of think of a commune, everybody
contributes what they can, everybody gets what they need and
we kind of just it's a society where everybody kind
of cares about each other. And that is one of

(48:19):
the things that obsessed the shit out of me about capitalism,
especially here in America at least, because I think American
individualism is going to be the death of us. I
believe that obviously there's bad people in the world, right,
but I do think that as a society, we owe
each other a lot, just even like we owe you know,

(48:41):
like we have doctors here, we have people who pave
our roads and x y Z here, like we just
have we exist around our fellow humans, and I think
we at the very least owe them kindness and help
whenever we can give help, because you know, one day
could be you who needs help and then you're fucked

(49:02):
because we live under capitalism. So yeah, Sor, I don't
mean to ramble, but I.

Speaker 5 (49:10):
That was actually some very well. That was the best
rambling I've ever heard. If you I ramble, I'm rambling now.

Speaker 2 (49:18):
Like I think if you say communist to the average
American on the street, what goes through their heads.

Speaker 4 (49:25):
Is like the USR mar in the streets.

Speaker 2 (49:29):
And secret police arresting you for saying something critical about right.

Speaker 1 (49:34):
We already got, we already got.

Speaker 4 (49:38):
And I will say I think, I think, uh, I
think that, and I get why, you know, there's so
much propaganda, like the Red Scare wasn't even that long ago,
and the way that they teach in school is just
it is just full on propaganda. I don't think that's
so much of a communist issue, like, because communism is

(49:59):
just economic ideology. I would blame the whole secret police
and you know, basically the entirety of the USSR on
authoritarianism because the same things that we saw in the
USSR could also be seen under like Mussolini or Hitler xyz,

(50:20):
people who were leaning more towards capitalism under their dictatorship.
So that's why I'm more so on the libertarian end
of my ideology, but I'm towards communism instead of the
capitalist libertarians who believe that, oh you need help, you
need to pay for it, every little thing you need,

(50:43):
because you know, under a libertarian capitalism a lot of
the times what happens is everybody's super rich and it's
all great except for the cripplingly poor, which is like
of the people so oh so America, except now we
have Trump, so it's more so authoritarianism. But yeah, sorry ramble,

(51:03):
but I do. I do think that a communism gets
a bad rap simply because these evil motherfuckers will be like, oh, yeah,
we're communists, and they might have some communistic policies, but
then they just take over with authoritarianism. I believe that
authoritarianism is the problem and not so much the economic strategy.

Speaker 3 (51:25):
So yeah, I mean I would agree with you. First
of all, I just want quick shout out to one
of my all time favorite movies, Clue. I do think
communism is a red herring.

Speaker 1 (51:39):
It was just a red herring.

Speaker 2 (51:41):
It's just so excited right now.

Speaker 3 (51:44):
But I definitely feel like this really sweet barter commune
type system could exist, and I feel like, to some
extent it's sort of what people in smaller like rural
like European billy that are like I'll fix your car
if you give me eggs every week like that kind

(52:04):
of like help each other out with the needs thing
is so fucking beautiful.

Speaker 4 (52:09):
Well, early humans used to do it too, like that's
how we.

Speaker 3 (52:12):
Yeah, like, yeah, it will, but that's what's missing. That's
like capitalism. Man's the fucking villain.

Speaker 4 (52:23):
And you get a you can even get a slight
glimpse of it. And so I'm from Florida, and I
know it's not the most southern place in the world,
but I had some family up in the Carolinas and
really small town. It's right outside of a boon, and
like these really small towns almost work like a commune.

(52:46):
But if you ever say that, it's like no, no, no, no,
no no no, it's like no, no, no, you you
just did this thing for your neighbor and maybe you're
getting something in return. Maybe you're not, but you're doing
it because you exist in a society and maybe we
should all contribute to each other because or you know,
because I even they had like neighbors who like got

(53:08):
older and like needed extra help doing things for themselves,
you know anymore. And it's like, Okay, in a true
if you truly believed in capitalism, you would tell them, no,
we're not going to help you. That's not my job.
Pull yourself off from your boot straps. Oh you can't
afford to work to feed yourself, Go fuck yourself, go die. Yeah,
you exist only to work. I like that. That's pretty
much what it is. It's taking care of each other

(53:29):
because say, you know, the next season you're doing bad,
you know your neighbor's going to come and help you.
And that's kind of what it's about. So I don't know. Sorry,
I ramble a lot about.

Speaker 1 (53:43):
This is why I wanted her on the show.

Speaker 2 (53:45):
So I got a friend who has a neighbor. And
the neighbor's husband died and she's a little older and
she's you know, sad and struggling with life. So my
friend is now taking her trash cans out to the
curb every week because the lady, you know, could use
a hand. So is my friend a communist and just
doesn't know it?

Speaker 1 (54:02):
Maybe he's just nice.

Speaker 3 (54:04):
Maybe yeah, he's just a good I.

Speaker 4 (54:05):
Do think, I do think. So, No, doing that one
thing doesn't make you a communist. However, like however, like
I it's like, it's like, but if she, if she
behaves that way and like the rest of her everyday life,
I would say, like, yeah, girl, you aren't a piece
of shit capitalist. You have communistic ideals like you you
don't think that people who can't do something for themselves

(54:28):
should die.

Speaker 3 (54:29):
I am a neighbor and she's not a communist what
I know of. She could be I don't know, but
there was a dog outside one day didn't look anything
like my dog, but she had moved in recently. I
was nice to her, welcome. I just was like, hey, welcome,
what's up I little upstairs? You know, if I make

(54:49):
noise or my dog barks, let me know. And she
came to my door at like nine thirty at night
one night. I'm in my link little booty shorts, no
bron it's just like a tank top. I'm getting ready
for bed.

Speaker 4 (55:02):
Wait on the guest.

Speaker 3 (55:03):
Yeah, yeah, waiting on the guest. And I'm like hello,
And I opened the door and she's like, oh my god,
is your dog with you? Because there's a little dog
out there that's lost. And I was like, what a
nice person. She literally the stairs up to my door
are like the steepest fucking apartment stairs you've ever imagined

(55:24):
in your head, Like they're terrifyingly tall stairs. And the sweet,
litt old lady in her like late sixties early seventies
comes running up the stairs to make sure my dog
didn't get out while I wasn't paying attention from the
top floor. And it was the sweetest thing. People don't
do shit like that anymore. People are like, no, my problems.

(55:44):
Don't look at that dog it's running around.

Speaker 4 (55:46):
One exact boy I do like to give people is
because I think it makes it simple. Is like say
you have a farm and and other people have a farm. Right, say,
your farm yields a lot of crops, the other one
yields maybe fifty. The other one like their total failure. Basically,
like in a commune, everybody would contribute a certain percentage.

(56:12):
Not everybody thinks like, oh I have to give it
all away. No, that's not how that works. That's propaganda.
But it'd be like a certain percentage of what you
yielded based on what all you did. And sorry, I'm
like trying to make it simple. I don't mean to ramble,
but it makes it possible for that person who whose

(56:33):
farm was a total failure that year to have food
so they don't starve. And that way the like say
you were the one who had the farm who like
all their crops did super well, what if next year
that doesn't happen. Okay, well, if we didn't have that system,
you would now starve. I think are excuse me. Communism
saves us from that a little bit, and Also, socialism

(56:56):
is kind of set up similarly to that. I think
that I believe that everybody can fallow in hard times,
no matter how successful you were the year before, and
I think we should just take care of each other.
That is kind of my overwhelming opinion is that we
should take care of each other.

Speaker 1 (57:14):
Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 5 (57:16):
And what does it say about where we live? That
that's almost, That's not almost. It is absolutely a radical idea. Yeah,
being nice and kind and caring is a radical idea.

Speaker 4 (57:29):
And I don't mean to suck up politicians Dick or anything,
but AOC did this one speech like years ago, and
by the way, I hate I hate that Dick. I
hate both parties, but so I'm not like a fan
of any of them. But she did say something in
one of her speeches where she was like, you know,
I think if Jesus came back today, and I'm not
even religious, but I tell this to relicious people, I'm like,

(57:51):
if Jesus came back today and he started preaching the
same shit he was preaching way back when, how we
should feed the hungry, clothe the poor, welcome the straight
your x y Z, he would be expelled from these
from this uh floor and be labeled or radical.

Speaker 6 (58:07):
So yeah, fact.

Speaker 3 (58:11):
We'd crucify on a second time.

Speaker 4 (58:13):
Yeah, And I think I think so. I think I
think that Christians missed the plot of the Bible because
I almost feel like like this is an open book
test for them, because like not the Bible was telling
just like, oh, like these people who crucified me, these
like greeny fuckers were awful and they're the ones who

(58:36):
did this. And then Christians are like, well that that
wouldn't be me. And then here they are being like,
what do those filthy foreigners want from us?

Speaker 3 (58:44):
Yes, Jesus, Like, yeah, I know I heard Jeff saying
something just like that earlier today. Jeff t that racist
son of a bitch, just kidding me. He's not you guys,
And I also love Jewish people.

Speaker 2 (59:00):
Sick, Yeah, you have some Jewish friend.

Speaker 1 (59:03):
I did not say ship.

Speaker 3 (59:06):
Water. Are you Jewish?

Speaker 4 (59:07):
No?

Speaker 3 (59:08):
Oh? I was like, why did you ask if he
said something?

Speaker 2 (59:12):
No?

Speaker 3 (59:13):
I So I was teasing Jeff about Honkah one time,
and I realized, no, just the one time I teased
you about how I had been taught by a comedian
that Hankah was celebrating a deal. It was a Jewish
comedian who said it. So then I said it to
Jeff on our Christmas party office or Christmas office party

(59:34):
or holiday off, whatever the fuck it was called. And
ever since then, I feel like I have this like
need as a middle aged white lady to like who
grew up in a Catholic household, to make it clear,
like I do love I like a lot of Jewish people,
but I like Catholic people. That's for fucking sure, a
lot less Jewish people. Yeah, yeah, no Catholic. Look, Catholicism

(01:00:02):
has a history of catophiles.

Speaker 1 (01:00:04):
We hate Catholics.

Speaker 4 (01:00:06):
Yes, we don't fuck Catholics, but no, they do enough
of that.

Speaker 3 (01:00:09):
I mean sometimes I fuck Catholics, but it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
Hope they can give consent.

Speaker 3 (01:00:17):
Wow, that.

Speaker 1 (01:00:22):
Was that was too far? I apologic.

Speaker 3 (01:00:24):
Yeah, one f just basically said I'm also on the
Epstein file list.

Speaker 1 (01:00:28):
No I didn't.

Speaker 4 (01:00:28):
That's a liberal conspiracy. What are you talking about.

Speaker 1 (01:00:32):
There's not even a list.

Speaker 4 (01:00:33):
What are you talking about, Democrats?

Speaker 3 (01:00:36):
It's just a lot of security video footage.

Speaker 2 (01:00:42):
There's something I see a lot on social media, not
specifically communism, but anyone espousing any kind of ideal that
could be labeled as socialist or communists, and someone will say, so,
what do you how do you react when someone, let's say,
we're to come to you and be like, well, you're
eating at Taco Bell. Some communist you are, that's a
capital You wouldn't have have Taco Bell without capitalism, And

(01:01:02):
first of all, would we have Taco Bell without capitalism?
And second of all, why do you go to Taco
Bell if you're a communist?

Speaker 4 (01:01:08):
So my response to that, I would And I don't
know if you guys can put in like pictures. If
you can, let me know and I can send it
to you to kind of pop it up.

Speaker 2 (01:01:16):
At the very least, I can put them on our
free Patreon, free Patreon, dot com free free.

Speaker 4 (01:01:25):
Period.

Speaker 1 (01:01:26):
I would Patreon, and you're stepping on the bit.

Speaker 4 (01:01:30):
I would look at them and tell them that you're
you're doing the meme and I would then show them
the meme. Uh, but I would. Basically the meme is
is somebody complaining about like a medieval peasant complaining about society,
and then somebody else is like, oh, you hate the society,
then why are you participating in it? A ha haaaa,

(01:01:51):
you're wrong, And the point of the meme is to
point out like, oh, yeah, this person doesn't have a
much of a choice but to participate in order to survive.
That doesn't mean that you can't criticize that society and
try to make it better. I I I do think
that there's no ethical consumption under capitalism except for eating pussy.

Speaker 3 (01:02:13):
Sorry, you're gonna have to what.

Speaker 4 (01:02:19):
Yeah, three out of four there's no there's no ethical
consumption under capitalism except for eating pussy. That is the
only ethical consumption under capitalism.

Speaker 3 (01:02:30):
But why can't I can't? It bleeds and doesn't die.

Speaker 1 (01:02:38):
It also does a lot of other good things. Aaron
to say, you could.

Speaker 2 (01:02:42):
Get yourself a postman, apostal, lover, dry.

Speaker 3 (01:02:47):
And ship like a fucking two coffee.

Speaker 1 (01:02:51):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (01:02:52):
Wow, right here, we can we can work through it together.

Speaker 3 (01:02:57):
I knew it was only a matter of time. Listen,
I have one over another guest slash day.

Speaker 4 (01:03:06):
I'll book the tickets anyway. Uh So, Yes, I do
participate in society. We all participate in society. I don't
believe that that means that I can't criticize it. However,
I do try to limit my consumption, like, for example,
I'm worried about it about AI I don't do chat GBT.

(01:03:28):
I don't do like any ship like that. The only
time AI is ever in my life is when it's
shoved down my throat by like a Google search.

Speaker 1 (01:03:37):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:03:38):
And then there was a second part to your question.
I would, well, yeah, why not fuck it? You know,
we can still have tac about in the commune. Why
not it just won't you know?

Speaker 3 (01:03:51):
Okay, here's my question. I guess we might have.

Speaker 4 (01:03:54):
We might even have better food under under communism, because
not everything is uh. The food's not being prepared in
terms of saving money. It would be prepared in terms
of feeding people.

Speaker 3 (01:04:04):
Great, So Taco Bell would become like John's Taco Shop
and Tacos, you know, like because it would be a
more local vibe.

Speaker 1 (01:04:14):
All it comes back to tacos.

Speaker 2 (01:04:15):
It's no, it's this.

Speaker 3 (01:04:19):
It's no more evil to go to Taco Bell than
it is to go to like, uh, Safeway or Ralphs
or wherever I'm buy a loaf of bread. They're both
huge companies. You're still so whether you make the sandwich
or you buy the you know, fucking Mexican pizza and
Baja Blast, you're still lining the pockets of the ultra wealthy.
At the end of the day, we're just trying to exist.

(01:04:42):
So I don't think it would be well.

Speaker 4 (01:04:44):
And it's not like we live in a country where
it's like, oh, you can choose the capitalist option or
the communist option, Like we like we have to participate
in this system no matter what we do, and like
I don't have enough money to because if I, if
I did have enough money, I would not be in
this country anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:05:01):
I was just thinking about where would you live if
you could live anywhere on this earth right now in
its current state, economically, climate, whatever, where it has to
be current, what's what's you can teleport somewhere right now
and that your new home.

Speaker 3 (01:05:18):
Where I want to know what the past or future
place is.

Speaker 4 (01:05:22):
Also, the former Republic of Yugoslavia would be my past option,
but my current option. Honestly, it's still not communists because
there are no communist countries currently, at least not in
the actuality, but just socially, I would probably either go
to New Zealand or Ireland probably just their people are happier,

(01:05:47):
they have better labor walls, which is kind of what
I'm obsessed with. Yeah, I mean, and you never really
know until you get there, do you? Because everybody, you know,
America makes itself out to be this beautiful thing and
then people come here and you.

Speaker 3 (01:06:02):
Know, tomster Fire nine jobs to survive. I'm writing the
new America theme song. Think I'm really on board.

Speaker 1 (01:06:13):
Yeah, it's on point, that's for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:06:15):
Yeah. I have a friend that lives in Australia with
his wife and they have a huge amount of land
and I've been trying to like convince them that I'm
I should be allowed to come live on their land
until I find work out of country somehow. Yeah, because
America sucks, Yeah, it does.

Speaker 4 (01:06:34):
Yeah, Yeah, And it makes me actually kind of a
little sad because and this is where I feel like
a lot of people get misconstruted, because yeah, I bitch
about this country, and like there are some days where
I fucking hate this place. But I wouldn't be trying
to change it if I didn't care about it, because
I do think that this country has the capability to
be such a beautiful place, just with like a mix

(01:06:56):
of cultures and just like there's so many people here
who I have enjoyed, you know, just being around, even
complete strangers who I think are pretty sick. Yeah, I
think that that this country has the capability to be
a really beautiful place, but it's just these assholes come
into power and and just kind of ruin it. So

(01:07:19):
won't die, I do think, Yeah, I do think a
lot of people assume that communists and socialists just hate
this fucking country and h but we wouldn't be trying
to change it so hard if we weren't fond of
it at least a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:07:33):
Yeah, I agree, I agree.

Speaker 3 (01:07:36):
I do. Like physically where we live. I just don't
like the establishment, if you will look, and the fact
that I'm willing to fight people in our zombies like
that is telling that I'm ready to like because I
don't I don't touch guns. I don't own a gun,
but like if I had to fuck up some Nazis,

(01:07:58):
I would.

Speaker 4 (01:07:58):
Yeah, the only good Nazis, did na see?

Speaker 6 (01:08:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:08:01):
Yeah, but yeah, And also this country is just so beautiful,
like like even like like just just the fucking the
fucking scenery outside is just beautiful. And like I was
talking about this the other day with somebody. I was like, I,
if I had a time machine, I would go back
to pre colonialist America because the way it was described

(01:08:23):
and it was like it was the fucking Garden of Eden.
It was so beautiful, and so I would I would
love to go back and see it. But even today,
like it still holds a lot of its natural beauty,
and I hope it still does for years to come.
But I'm a little nervous with the current administration and
the national parks. But yeah, just the people in uh,
the scenery. Uh, we have the capability. A better world

(01:08:46):
is possible, but these assholes and government fucking hate us.

Speaker 3 (01:08:50):
Yeah. This is a really scary movie that I've forgotten
the name of and Jeff looked it up last time,
but it's on Netflix. It's called like well Head or
Mountain Wolf some shit. It's Steve Grell's.

Speaker 2 (01:09:07):
In it, mountain Head, mountain Head.

Speaker 3 (01:09:09):
And it is so scary because it is like a
real life, accurate depiction that someone wrote on paper before
it was happening and filmed and released this year. But
it's like all these it's four or five fucking idiot
billionaires that are all talking about you know, AI and shit,

(01:09:31):
and it's it's a scary movie. It's not meant to
be scary, it's just meant to be entertaining. But it's upsetting.
Is that what you're said.

Speaker 2 (01:09:40):
Yeah, I think it's meant to be upsetting. I think. Yeah.
I still haven't watched that, and I'm sorry. I need
to get that back on my homework.

Speaker 3 (01:09:48):
That's okay.

Speaker 2 (01:09:49):
On the same time we talked about that, we also
talked about Superman three and how it was maybe about
an evil AI that tried to take over the world.

Speaker 3 (01:09:55):
So, oh yeah, maybe I have to watch that still too.
I'm only only the movie Mountainhead, Mountainhead. I'm four chapters
into Dungeon Crawler Carl. I'm loving it, but also about AI. Yes,
some scary shit, guys.

Speaker 2 (01:10:11):
You're good. Book recommendation Dungeon Crawler Carl. It's the first
of a series of books.

Speaker 3 (01:10:16):
It's fucking delightful. He has a cat. Okay, I see
your headphone. I have a cat, right. I saw your
headphone had the ears, and I was like, she'll appreciate
a good cat story. I don't even have a cat,
and I just find it charming.

Speaker 4 (01:10:29):
Oh good, it's the headphone.

Speaker 3 (01:10:30):
Something happens to that cat during the book. Jeff, I'm
holding you personally responsible for its tiny smushed face.

Speaker 2 (01:10:41):
I can't say anything.

Speaker 1 (01:10:43):
Should we go to commercial?

Speaker 2 (01:10:45):
Well, I thought we'd do a couple of horrors of
technology to real quick, then do a commercial, and then
wrap things up with some suggest articles from Kirston. Okay,
because we're really long at this guy, I know we're
really long, and you're in a hot, hot closet.

Speaker 1 (01:10:57):
I just also, I have I have like a stack
of other things I have deduced. I have a heart
out at seven.

Speaker 3 (01:11:03):
The amount of sweat on my back right now from
this gamer chair is unreal.

Speaker 2 (01:11:07):
So just take off your shirt. It's fine. Equal Opportunity Podcast, Okay,
cut that out. I love this headline. You guys know
who Sam Altman is. He's the CEO of open Ai,
the makers of chat GPT, which just released version five
point zero traffic warns of an AI fraud crisis. Perfect,

(01:11:31):
so he said, quote this is a quote. A thing
that terrifies me is apparently there are still some financial
institutions that will accept a voice print as authentication for
you to move a lot of money or do something else.
You say a challenge phrase and they just do it.
That is a crazy thing to still be doing. AI
has fully defeated most of the ways that people authenticate
currently other than passwords. Unquote, Aaron, you look angry.

Speaker 4 (01:12:00):
Perpetually.

Speaker 3 (01:12:02):
Yes, that is actually my constant moon. No, I was
angry because there's like ninety eight police sirens outside my
apartment right now, and I can hear them very loudly
through the closed windows. So that was my face.

Speaker 2 (01:12:19):
So react to the article. Sam Altman is warning that
AI the things he makes, is defeating too much security.

Speaker 3 (01:12:27):
Look, I fucking hate AI. So that's my answer. Fuck AI.
Watch any movie from the nineties. AI is bad. Why
are we doing this?

Speaker 1 (01:12:38):
Even the movies from the seventies.

Speaker 3 (01:12:40):
Or the eighties? Yeah, like, fuck AI, guys, it will
become self aware and kill us. Why are we doing this.

Speaker 1 (01:12:49):
Jeff, We're just gonna what check?

Speaker 4 (01:12:51):
I fucked up?

Speaker 1 (01:12:52):
What would you do?

Speaker 4 (01:12:54):
I don't have my fucking suggestion?

Speaker 3 (01:12:57):
Oh fuck, there's no fucking up here. Have you listened
to the show before this? It's fine?

Speaker 2 (01:13:08):
So I played the said trombone sound button noise.

Speaker 4 (01:13:11):
Yeah, Oh my god, somebody's going to keep going. I
got scared.

Speaker 3 (01:13:18):
I'm going to call your wife or your partner and
ask her to please take your soundbo away from you.

Speaker 1 (01:13:24):
The thing is that even if an I doesn't doesn't
kill us.

Speaker 5 (01:13:28):
We're gonna die trying to build these data centers, Like
Zuckerberg wants to build one the size of Manhattan.

Speaker 1 (01:13:34):
Why fucking why?

Speaker 3 (01:13:36):
Well, so can we just really quickly? And I just
want to like sidebar on this, but like, does it
feel wrong to anybody that we're pushing AI in space
so much? It feels like they're preparing to create these
post apocalyptic we have to fly into space while we're frozen,

(01:13:58):
kind of like sane level sci fi shit, Like I
think they're preparing for the death of.

Speaker 2 (01:14:03):
The Earth, but they're causing it.

Speaker 1 (01:14:05):
Yeah, they're causing it with this stuff.

Speaker 5 (01:14:07):
And I also think space is kind of going away
and AI is overshadowy.

Speaker 1 (01:14:10):
And now personally that's kind of how I feel.

Speaker 4 (01:14:12):
I don't want to see the stars if we're just
going to colonize them.

Speaker 1 (01:14:15):
Yep, there you go.

Speaker 6 (01:14:17):
Hell yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:14:19):
Also, didn't one of the one of the x CEOs
of an AI like relief then they put out a
paper or something or give a speech where they said
in twelve years by twenty thirty seven, where all could
be living in hiding from AI.

Speaker 2 (01:14:35):
Awesome, that's not possible. Listen, Okay, So Why does Mark
Zuckerberg want to make a data center the size of Manhattan?

Speaker 3 (01:14:41):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:14:41):
He has a tiny example of why. There's an example
of why. Here's another article. This one's from Jacobin. I
won't bother reading you the headline, but it's least air travel,
something everybody loves blah blah blah blah blah. But many airlines,
led by Delta, the nation's largest, are working with AI
consulting companies that boast of their quote hyper personalized price setting. Yeah,

(01:15:03):
this new airline apparatus is part of the airline industry's
long standing experiments with big data driven blah blah blah
blah blah. Now, through shared algorithms, airlines AI ventures could
also lead to illegal collusion that threatens to jack up
ticket prices for everyone. Do you think they'll suffer consequences
if they break the law?

Speaker 6 (01:15:19):
First?

Speaker 1 (01:15:20):
Anyone?

Speaker 6 (01:15:20):
Real quick?

Speaker 1 (01:15:21):
Now?

Speaker 2 (01:15:21):
Gust? Okay?

Speaker 3 (01:15:23):
No, they'll also probably hire some twelve year old prostitutes.

Speaker 2 (01:15:27):
Personalized pricing leverages surveillance techniques and data collection to target
individual prices for each customer based on their personal information.
AI tools can be used to sift through massive tros
of data on customers or competitors and analyze trends to
generate profit maximizing price recommendations, reactions. This is what's coming.

(01:15:50):
This is why we need data centers.

Speaker 1 (01:15:51):
Are basically it's so they can gouge you on a
personal level.

Speaker 5 (01:15:54):
Now you can just they can just figure out how
much you are actually willing to pay.

Speaker 2 (01:15:59):
And yeah, it's fucking terrible. That's pretty much it, all.

Speaker 5 (01:16:05):
Right, speaking of horrors, though, we have a guest from Florida,
and you gotta have at least one Florida centric something.

Speaker 3 (01:16:12):
Right, Yeah, if you don't have a Florida story, I
don't believe you're really from there.

Speaker 4 (01:16:18):
I have a very entertaining article.

Speaker 2 (01:16:20):
Yes, is this for the horrors of technology segment? Or
is this a suggested article?

Speaker 4 (01:16:25):
This is a suggested article.

Speaker 2 (01:16:26):
Oh well, then maybe we should take that commercial break.
No one wants to say any more about the price gouging. Okay,
but we're all just depressed from that.

Speaker 4 (01:16:33):
Yeah, price gouging. Why does money exist?

Speaker 3 (01:16:38):
Look, here here's a great example. I tried to buy
a make It Mini the other day. Those used to
be about seven or eight dollars a little a make
It Mini. They're like these tiny miniature things that come
from Asia. You make small things, there's resin involved. This
one was a Jurassic Park one. It should have retailed

(01:16:59):
for no more than ten dollars. I had the opportunity
to potentially get the Barba cel can with little embryos
that I would have had to pour the resonant and
make very crafty on brand for me. Thirteen twenty nine
Target something that used to be like eight or nine

(01:17:20):
dollars max. How long ago was it eight or nine dollars?

Speaker 1 (01:17:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:17:25):
Last year?

Speaker 2 (01:17:26):
Oh that's great?

Speaker 1 (01:17:28):
Ill when happened? Oh god, I mean that is a travesty.

Speaker 6 (01:17:33):
That is a travesty.

Speaker 5 (01:17:35):
I remember I remember being able to feed my family
for it through at a drive through for less than
twenty bucks time, and now it's not even possible.

Speaker 1 (01:17:42):
I go, two of us go, it's more than that.

Speaker 3 (01:17:45):
It used to be a challenge to door dash something
that was a full twelve dollars, and now I feel
like I can't keep it at twelve dollars because it's
like automatically twenty.

Speaker 4 (01:17:56):
I mean, it's crazy money.

Speaker 3 (01:17:59):
Yeah, how dare you make me put pants on and
leave my house? You fucking dix?

Speaker 4 (01:18:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:18:07):
On that note, yep. On the note of Aaron's no
pants policy and Dix, we will go to one more
commercial break and then we're going to come back and
hear I guess something about Florida that sounds terrible and
I can't wait.

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Speaker 2 (01:19:04):
Oh sorry, so.

Speaker 4 (01:19:07):
Damn it, Jeff, it wasn't are you?

Speaker 3 (01:19:12):
Do you not want soundbot privileges? Is that what this
is about?

Speaker 2 (01:19:16):
Because I dare to give you to take him that?

Speaker 4 (01:19:19):
I thought? Jeff did it again?

Speaker 3 (01:19:22):
You wait? Which Jeff? Because other Jeff, I'm not allowed.
But we have a history with other Jeff talking about pooping.

Speaker 4 (01:19:32):
Jeff one F has a history of.

Speaker 3 (01:19:35):
Jeff two F has a weird thing with laxatives. We
can't talk about.

Speaker 1 (01:19:42):
Yeah, everybody ships not like.

Speaker 5 (01:19:45):
No, only happened two or three times that you know of.

Speaker 2 (01:19:53):
Its happened no times, just to be fair and cannot wait.

Speaker 1 (01:19:58):
Kirsten is so much fun.

Speaker 3 (01:20:00):
Honestly, she's a delay.

Speaker 2 (01:20:02):
All right, Kirsten, you have an article to read us
and I've embracing myself.

Speaker 4 (01:20:06):
Yeah, so it was between one of two, but I
feel like this one just kind of takes it. Florida
man arrested for allegedly tossing alligator into Whitney's drive through window.
The man faces multiple charges, including assault with a deadly weapon.

Speaker 2 (01:20:27):
That's dehumanizing to the alligator creature.

Speaker 1 (01:20:31):
Yeah, he was just chilling, probably an alligator thing.

Speaker 3 (01:20:34):
Yeah, sorry, we're offending. Your alligator buddy is to f Jeff.

Speaker 2 (01:20:38):
I was born in Florida. I got a little gator
in my heart.

Speaker 3 (01:20:44):
I get it now now, I get it does make.

Speaker 2 (01:20:46):
A lot of sense. Is so still most of the time.

Speaker 3 (01:20:49):
Honestlysens so much cooler than the average person. I have
ever met from Florida that like, I don't buy it,
but now that I know Jeff is from Florida, things
are like things are clicking.

Speaker 4 (01:21:04):
Now it's eyes. It's okay, that's enough time to get
the parasite. We all get the parasite.

Speaker 3 (01:21:16):
There is an interesting movie actually right now on HBO
Max called Freaky Tales. I think it's called it's Pedro Pascal.
It's about a weird green glowing happening and there's some
Nazi fighting and there's some punk rock and it takes
place in nineteen eighty seven, I think Oakland, but it

(01:21:39):
seems sort of like this parasitic thing that is like
stopping the Nazis. It looks it's a it's you said,
parasitic and I was like, Oh, they get this green
glow in their eyes. It's pretty dope.

Speaker 4 (01:21:52):
Yeah, that was based off Nazis. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:21:55):
Wait, is Jeff doing a push up?

Speaker 4 (01:21:57):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:21:57):
It's his hand? Is he crying? What is what Jeff doing?

Speaker 2 (01:22:00):
I think he's given up on us. I've given you
so oft Okay, So, Kirsten, is there anything else that
you'd like to share from? You know how suggested articles
works As you listen to the show, So if you
open a new tab, do you have anything else interesting
that the algorithm would like you.

Speaker 6 (01:22:15):
To talk about.

Speaker 4 (01:22:19):
I'm going to get exposed. It's all based on me.

Speaker 2 (01:22:23):
We've all taken off our shirts. Now we're all exposed.
And if you don't believe me, look us up on
YouTube suggested articles, check the show. I'll really try to
get them in there.

Speaker 4 (01:22:32):
Let me open the ship, Kelly kids, I feel.

Speaker 2 (01:22:50):
While she opens hers up. I got a quick little
one because I was just at dinner last night with
a couple of friends and one of them brought up,
you know, I was not watching preseason NFL foot ball
because I just don't care. But one of them did
bring up how someone in a preseason game hit a
seventy yard field goal. Yeah, but it doesn't count for
anything except the field goal because it was a preseason

(01:23:12):
game and therefore it's not real. I guess. And I
just got to suggest article about that Jaguars Cam Little
hit seventy yard field goal, but NFL record will not count.

Speaker 4 (01:23:20):
Wow, all of mine are just said.

Speaker 3 (01:23:25):
I don't want to mention this name again, but somebody
that's the color of orange today demanded that homeless people
immediately move out of Washington, DC, because you know they
have the financial resources to pick up. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:23:44):
I would argue that he's the homeless person. He lives
in a house he doesn't pay for, right, squatter.

Speaker 2 (01:23:51):
Oh I just got that headline Trump demands sorry I
said his name, demands homeless people immediately move out of Washington.

Speaker 3 (01:23:57):
I love that.

Speaker 1 (01:23:58):
That's my I just got that buck headlines, So fuck you.

Speaker 2 (01:24:03):
I have.

Speaker 5 (01:24:04):
I have just carefully curated my life so I don't
get Trump headlines.

Speaker 1 (01:24:07):
And I suggested article. I have that same one.

Speaker 3 (01:24:12):
My feet is bluey and Disney shit, So allow me
to have my one homeless people article.

Speaker 4 (01:24:18):
Okay, no, no, I just have a New York Times
article that says the terrorit the terrifying realization that an
unresponsive patient is still in there.

Speaker 1 (01:24:26):
Holy shit, Wow, fuck god, I had.

Speaker 4 (01:24:33):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (01:24:33):
I watched eight Man Out last night. Eight Man Out. Okay.

Speaker 6 (01:24:38):
Have you seen Field Dreams?

Speaker 3 (01:24:40):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (01:24:41):
Okay, Shuless Joe Jackson and the part of part of
the move that movie hinges around Shuliss Joe Jackson, who
was banned from baseball being able to come back and
play baseball again.

Speaker 1 (01:24:51):
Well, eight Man Out is actually.

Speaker 5 (01:24:53):
The the story of the Black Sox who who through
the world series and so now I have white Sox
articles all over my suggested articles.

Speaker 2 (01:25:04):
Good job, Yeah, I got God damn it. This is
on Yahoo News. And let's keep in mind this is
billing itself as a news site. Yahoo. The headline is,
the headline is, and it's really You're welcome, Rob Taco
bell is surfing up a great new burrito and a
disappointing one. Thank you, Yahoo News. The journalism that went

(01:25:31):
into that, I'm sure it's great, Jeff.

Speaker 4 (01:25:34):
We can go test it ourselves.

Speaker 6 (01:25:36):
Yes, please do. Let's see.

Speaker 1 (01:25:44):
Yeah, I got nothing.

Speaker 5 (01:25:45):
Oh here, the Northern lights are going to be uh
possibly visible in northern Minnesota and Wisconsin and Michigan's peninsula tonight.

Speaker 4 (01:25:55):
Mine are so fucking sad. It's like it's like the
end of the world and you know it, ladies, Oh
my god, none of these Oh my god, I'm gonna
end the podcast just a sad note.

Speaker 3 (01:26:12):
Don't be don't be sad. Here's the thing I found.

Speaker 4 (01:26:16):
Just play that that ship sound again, Jeff, you got it?

Speaker 2 (01:26:21):
Look up something wetter.

Speaker 4 (01:26:23):
Just sounds scared of pit bulls. You better be.

Speaker 5 (01:26:26):
Oh damn, why no, no, that's that's no, you should
be afraid of people who mistreat their dogs.

Speaker 6 (01:26:36):
That's my god.

Speaker 2 (01:26:40):
That article. That's when I say that article.

Speaker 6 (01:26:43):
Okay, that was disgusting.

Speaker 1 (01:26:45):
That was pros.

Speaker 4 (01:26:47):
That was a jump scare.

Speaker 2 (01:26:49):
Why we did that, I know why because you had
the soundbot No more sound Kirsten asked for that one.

Speaker 4 (01:26:56):
Yeah, I did, that was my butt.

Speaker 2 (01:26:58):
Yeah. About the Office spin off, made a smart move
with it's Michael Scott replacement. Anyone's gonna watch the new
Office spinoff?

Speaker 4 (01:27:04):
Man, Oh my god, I just got that fucking article.
Trump demands homeless people immediately moved.

Speaker 5 (01:27:10):
Oh god, no, I don't think we've ever all got
the same article. Here's a great one. This is exciting.
It's from the Times of India though, so it's not
news for me. It's news for the other side of
the world. But it says NASA Warren's exclamation point two
giant asteroids won over three hundred feet to make close

(01:27:30):
earth flybys on August eighth five, so it's already happened.

Speaker 2 (01:27:34):
Fuck well. Also so pointed that that's not why are
we being borned of a close earth flyby? By definition,
that's not going to kill us.

Speaker 6 (01:27:42):
I know, it's really depressing.

Speaker 4 (01:27:44):
Hey, you know, I'm sure the dinosaurs didn't think it
was going to hit them even.

Speaker 5 (01:27:49):
Yeah, well the dinosaurs, right, they were all dicks, They didn't.
The dinosaurs were notoriously against workers' rights.

Speaker 4 (01:28:00):
I would argue they lived in a commune.

Speaker 1 (01:28:08):
You don't know about dinosaurs.

Speaker 3 (01:28:09):
But a friend of the show, okay, well friends of
the friend of the podcast, Lola faust An author has
taught us about dinosaur erotica, and I know that if
I made a dinosaur, I should immediately rub my labia
on its rough skin, and that that is sexual.

Speaker 4 (01:28:26):
Hey, you're prepared, Yeah, it'll feel really By the way,
that episode made watching Jurassic Park really awkward for me.

Speaker 3 (01:28:35):
It was. It was a little weird for me. Imagine
reading that whole book and your name is the name
dinosaurs sucking the dinosaurs.

Speaker 1 (01:28:44):
The dinosaurs in that Jurassic Park movie are so hot?

Speaker 4 (01:28:48):
Why they have to make the try? Sarah tops that point.

Speaker 1 (01:28:50):
I know, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:28:55):
I got a listical called ten Fantasy TV show was
almost as good as Lord of the Rings. Anyone want
to take guesses about the top, Like, let's say three
one of them is the Wheel of Time. That's number four.

Speaker 6 (01:29:08):
Is one of them, Brandon Sanderson's whatever he's working on.

Speaker 2 (01:29:12):
Well, that's not out yet, Okay. Number three is a
show I don't know anything about. It's called oh show, sorry,
oh sorry. Has anyone heard of The Magician?

Speaker 3 (01:29:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:29:22):
I watched The Magicians for a little while with Carrie and.

Speaker 2 (01:29:25):
Then you gave up. All right. Yeah. Number two is
Avatar The Last Airbender. Great show, but I wouldn't compare
it to Lord of the Rings.

Speaker 5 (01:29:33):
Dude, that the og animated Avatar is one of the
greatest shows ever made, though.

Speaker 2 (01:29:39):
And then number one on the list was Game of Thrones.
It had its.

Speaker 4 (01:29:43):
Moments, Game of Thrones a ship except for.

Speaker 2 (01:29:48):
Till it became season I did spend many years of
my life podcasting about that.

Speaker 1 (01:29:54):
Hold the Door. Yeah, that's true. That's how Jeff and
I came to get it, came to be friends, was
because of Game of Thrones in a.

Speaker 2 (01:30:00):
Weird way and fallow Out seventy six. Don't forget the
power of follow?

Speaker 1 (01:30:03):
Well that was late.

Speaker 5 (01:30:04):
Will you stop talking about follow now? I'm saying that's
how we met, That's how we kind of came to
know each other was because you had a podcast and
you hired me. Yeah, it's true, follow it and then
we did play follow seventy.

Speaker 2 (01:30:16):
Six for years, yes, many years, yes, together.

Speaker 5 (01:30:22):
Just us, Me and Jeff playing Followed seventy six naked
in our own houses, thousands of miles.

Speaker 2 (01:30:27):
Apart, sometimes with sometimes without webcams. Yeah, yeah, good times.

Speaker 1 (01:30:35):
That one's for you, Spencer, all right? Should we call it?
Should we call it?

Speaker 2 (01:30:38):
Anyone who got any good articles? Kirsten? Do you have
any good article to take us out on here?

Speaker 4 (01:30:48):
I'm literally on page fourteen trying to find all just garbage,
a not sad one or fucked up one.

Speaker 2 (01:30:57):
Well, I mean I kind of we like learning something
about you that regard that you only read that and
fucked up news.

Speaker 4 (01:31:02):
Well, I am a communist, So I'm gonna ruin everybody's day,
uh with this last one? Fuck it? Denver Zoo sea
Lion dies in Washington, d C. While waiting for a
new habitat alight, all right, pon. Honestly, if I lived
in DC right now, I'd probably die too.

Speaker 3 (01:31:22):
Right. They were like I can't, They were like, I
can't share this space.

Speaker 4 (01:31:28):
Well, the sea Lion was homeless at the.

Speaker 3 (01:31:32):
Yea Trump told him, excuse me, Orange guy told him
to leave. He had to die.

Speaker 2 (01:31:41):
He's not known to be an animal lover, so I
guess it makes sense to a better chance if it
was like an underage sea lion.

Speaker 4 (01:31:50):
Right, yeah, he would get a fun ton of money.

Speaker 3 (01:31:54):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 4 (01:31:56):
He was on the Epstein list what list?

Speaker 3 (01:32:00):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (01:32:00):
Yeah? Liberalized?

Speaker 1 (01:32:03):
Never was all right?

Speaker 2 (01:32:05):
All right? So Kirsten, Uh, I mean, the algorithm obviously
knows everything about you, But do you want other people
to know everything about you? Would you like to be
found potentially on the Internet by other members of the
church of the Algorithm?

Speaker 4 (01:32:20):
Yeah? Sure, Honestly, the only one I posted at early
is probably TikTok and it's just cure K I E
R and then canceled with a K.

Speaker 2 (01:32:31):
You're canceled, canceled with a K brand as long as
Jeff does it. Who No, Kirsten, never no? Why why
would why would you even suggest that? It is probably
good you didn't call yourself Kirsten canceled communist. But still yeah,

(01:32:57):
let's see Aaron you're here, do you want to plug anything?
You were? You were talking during our break about how
you're starting more and more podcasts every day.

Speaker 3 (01:33:06):
So yeah, we've started a video. Well, we're starting a
video one called Here Comes the Grant or Here Come
the Grannies, and it is about aging millennials who watch
Bluey but have no children and enjoy the show because
it makes them feel good. So that's coming out soon ish.
We record our first video episode for the second time

(01:33:31):
because I set up the zoom. Yeah, uh, that's coming
up soon and then uh, that'll be on YouTube and
then we'll still issue like an audio version of it.

Speaker 1 (01:33:45):
It Come the Grannies. Not to be confused with the
very very popular porn series.

Speaker 3 (01:33:50):
You're Come the Grannies.

Speaker 4 (01:33:52):
Yeah, very population.

Speaker 6 (01:34:00):
That little.

Speaker 3 (01:34:01):
Plus, I have my Patreon where I make things like
these incredible shoes that I made with muffin on them. Oh,
muffin on your shoes when she's the flumming Now, Queen.

Speaker 5 (01:34:16):
Will you get me a hat with make me like
a beanie with muffin on it so I can call
it my muffin top?

Speaker 3 (01:34:23):
Can we do like a bucket hat? I can't paint
on a be ye?

Speaker 4 (01:34:28):
Hell yeah, yes, yes, Jeff, you're making a possible demands
to you and Matthew Lillard are keeping bucket hats alive.

Speaker 1 (01:34:36):
It does Yeah, I can try I'm gonna pick up
that torch.

Speaker 3 (01:34:40):
And I'm too turtle everywhere else.

Speaker 2 (01:34:42):
Just what's the name of your Patreon with your art?

Speaker 3 (01:34:45):
Oh artsy fartsy, but if you look it up on
their system, it's too artsy farts I think, or just
artsy farts because some bitch ass got fartsy before I
got the u r L so person, yeah right, come true. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:35:01):
You can also find us on Patreon if you look
up Suggested Articles.

Speaker 1 (01:35:05):
Okay, next, my.

Speaker 3 (01:35:07):
Next project is a Teddy birthday hat for this Sturgeon,
which is a callback to an episode of The Fink Show,
which I also do on Tuesdays. Okay, I'm literally everywhere
all the time. I don't know who I've told stories
to and who I haven't. It's like a real problem
at this point.

Speaker 2 (01:35:25):
And I would also like to add that if you
would like to be like a new listener rob and
destroy an episode by making us talk about taco bell
for an hour, you can reach out at Suggested Articles
Podcast at gmail dot.

Speaker 4 (01:35:37):
Com an email there too.

Speaker 2 (01:35:40):
Thank you. Erin nudes are welcome absolutely because they will
get shared with the group. If they are Dino nudes,
that would rock.

Speaker 3 (01:35:48):
Okay, damn it now, I want to draw a Dino
pen even though we did extensive research on Dino kloecas.

Speaker 1 (01:35:57):
What's stopping you, Aaron? What's stopping you?

Speaker 4 (01:36:00):
Thing?

Speaker 1 (01:36:01):
You are an artist, you have the world is your canvas.

Speaker 3 (01:36:04):
Okay, maybe maybe for Ben's chasing the whimsy a little
pen on the that's not a real.

Speaker 1 (01:36:18):
Diversaury, not Sully, something like Ben's podcast. It's too pure.
Thank you, all right, let's get.

Speaker 6 (01:36:27):
Out of it.

Speaker 2 (01:36:27):
That's what Soundbo thought of that suggestion. You're welcome, Aaron. Okay,
that's it. Then, curiously and again, thank you for joining
us and whatever the hellp it's just was that we did.
It's been nice getting to know you, and maybe we'll
be able to do it again sometime. Then. I hope
that you will join our church, where we devote ourselves
to the almighty Algorithm. As we now end with a prayer,

(01:36:51):
all Hail, all hale, the algorithm, the algorithm.

Speaker 3 (01:36:55):
Algorithm R.

Speaker 4 (01:37:01):
There's no way I'm about to start gooning.

Speaker 1 (01:37:06):
You're about to start. I never stopped
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