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June 18, 2025 32 mins

In this episode, the host speaks with Scott Weiner, a CTO and expert in high-performing teams, on the importance of aligning metrics with team purpose. Scott shares his experience as a fractional CTO and insights into the overlap between Agile practices and AI development. They discuss the pitfalls of measuring the wrong metrics and how doing so can demotivate teams. Scott emphasizes the importance of trust, autonomy, and clear purpose in fostering high-performing teams. He recounts personal stories to illustrate the impact of these principles and offers practical advice for tech leaders to improve team dynamics and effectiveness. The conversation touches on the balance needed in metrics, leaders' assumptions, and the critical role of trust in achieving team success.


Links:

* Scott Weiner on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/sweiner/

* "The Tyranny of Metrics" by Jerry Z. Muller - https://www.amazon.com/Tyranny-Metrics-Jerry-Z-Muller/dp/0691191913?tag=sommardahl-20

* "Clean & Green" by Nancy Birtwhistle  - https://www.amazon.com/Clean-Green-Hints-Tips-Eco-Friendly/dp/1529049741?tag=sommardahl-20

* "Drive" by  Daniel H. Pink - https://www.amazon.com/Drive-Surprising-Truth-About-Motivates/dp/1594484805?tag=sommardahl-20


Timeline:
00:00 Introduction and Guest Introduction
00:34 Scott's Background and Current Focus
01:09 The Importance of Incremental Development
03:00 Challenges in Measuring Success
05:40 Scott's Embarrassing Mistake
11:49 Aligning Metrics with Purpose
17:17 The Importance of Purpose in Work
18:48 Aligning Metrics with Purpose
19:31 Challenges with Current Measurement Practices
22:17 The Role of Trust in Leadership
26:24 Balancing Metrics and Quality
29:34 The Five Dysfunctions of a Team
31:56 Empowering Teams to Drive Change
33:39 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

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