What if the biggest weakness in cybersecurity isn’t a missing tool, but a cultural blind spot? That’s the perspective of Dan Jones, Senior Security Advisor at Tanium, who joined me on Tech Talks Daily to share why he believes cybersecurity is fundamentally a people problem dressed up as a technology problem.
Dan brings nearly three decades of experience in cyber operations, including leading cyber defence strategy for the UK Ministry of Defence. His career has shown him that technology alone doesn’t secure organisations—it’s the people at the front line, their leadership, and their ability to make the right decisions under pressure. He argues that while new tools flood the market every year, the make-or-break factor remains the same: how teams are led, supported, and empowered.
In our conversation, Dan explains why leadership is often the overlooked part of cybersecurity, how culture shapes security outcomes, and why automation should be embraced not as a threat to jobs but as a way to give people time back for higher-value decision making. He shares examples from both military and enterprise contexts, showing how organisations succeed or fail based not on what tools they buy, but on how well they bring their people along for the journey.
We also dig into one of today’s hottest debates: the role of AI in cybersecurity. While many fear AI will displace jobs, Dan insists those fears are rooted in culture, not reality. He draws parallels to past industrial shifts, making the case that automation and orchestration are stepping stones that prepare teams for an AI-powered future—one where human judgment still sits firmly at the centre.
This is a timely reminder for every leader and practitioner that cybersecurity is about more than firewalls and code. It’s about trust, training, and people working together with the right tools at the right time. And yes, it’s also about taking five minutes to brew a proper cup of tea—a lesson Dan believes says a lot about leadership and reflection.
If you’ve ever wondered whether your organisation is focusing too much on tools and not enough on culture, this episode will make you stop and think.
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