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April 30, 2025 58 mins

In this powerful episode of That's Where I'm At, Laura welcomes Angie Marie, a lifestyle and health coach who spent 20 years in a narcissistic relationship. Together, they explore the insidious nature of covert and overt narcissism, the devastating impact of gaslighting, and the complex emotions that surface when leaving these relationships. Angie shares her journey of reclaiming her authentic self after years of people-pleasing and self-abandonment, discovering that true health encompasses both physical and emotional well-being. This raw conversation offers validation, hope, and practical insights for anyone recovering from narcissistic abuse.

 

Angie Marie is a lifestyle and health coach and upcoming podcaster launching "Reauthenticated." After spending 20 years in a narcissistic marriage and working 25 years as a hairdresser, Angie is on a mission to help people reconnect with their authentic selves. Her journey began with focusing solely on nutrition and physical fitness, but evolved to include emotional healing from trauma as she recognized that self-validation had been missing from her life. Through her platform "Reauthenticated," Angie guides others to build confidence not just through nutrition and physical activity, but through healing past traumas and embracing their spiritual journey.

 

Key Topics Discussed

  • Different Types of Narcissism: The distinction between covert narcissists (who appear nice in public but are abusive in private) and overt narcissists (who are openly self-centered)
  • Gaslighting and Its Effects: How narcissists use gaslighting to make victims question their reality and sanity
  • The Friend Betrayal: Angie's experience with her friend who became involved with her husband during their separation
  • Why Victims Stay: The psychological reasons people remain in abusive relationships, including survival mode and fear of life changes
  • Healing Through Communication: Learning to express feelings and speak truth after years of silence
  • The Peace After Leaving: Finding relief and healing after exiting the relationship
  • Building a New Identity: Discovering who you are outside of the narcissist's definition
  • Physical vs. Emotional Health: Balancing external appearance with internal emotional well-being

Powerful Quotes

"But we don't get the opportunity to talk about our feelings with the narcissist because it doesn't do any good. It's not going to be valid. They're going to disregard it." - Angie Marie

"I finally learned how to love myself and not seek validation in other people. You know, I don't have to look perfect. I don't have to look pretty all the time... Now instead of everything being so perfect and so polished, I get to just be me." - Angie Marie

Timestamps

  • 00:00 - Introduction and welcome
  • 04:15 - Discussion on covert vs. overt narcissism
  • 08:30 - Angie's story of betrayal during separation
  • 16:45 - The friend who pointed out narcissism
  • 22:20 - The physical and emotional impact of narcissistic abuse
  • 29:15 - Learning to speak your truth after years of silence
  • 33:45 - The influence of childhood trauma on adult relationships
  • 39:10 - Finding self-love and authentic exp
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