Tyler Summitt, son of legendary coach Pat Summitt, as well as the Co-Founder of Pat Summitt Leadership Group, shares the group’s mission, the story of Pat’s humble beginnings, the art of mastering full executive decision making in 90 second or less, the "secret sauce" to Pat’s leadership, what she definitely didn’t understand about, but learned from, a 5-year-old’s soccer game, how to visualize winning in a (very, very) highly detailed way, the key component that gets you to over a 90% success rate, and the answer to the mystery of just who is “Trish”?
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Stephanie Maas (00:00):
Hey, Tyler, how are you?
Tyler Summitt (00:53):
Good, how you doing?
Stephanie Maas (00:55):
I'm good. It's super nice to meet you.
Tyler Summitt (00:57):
Absolutely likewise. Thanks for having me
on.
Stephanie Maas (00:59):
So I'm not from Tennessee. I don't know anything
about basketball. I know yourmom is ridiculously respected. I
know enough to know that.
Tyler Summitt (01:07):
You know what's awesome. I love that. You know
why I love that? Because I lovetalking to people that have not
heard of mom. Because a lot oftimes, if people have heard of
Mom, it's like, oh yeah, I'veheard that. I've heard that
story. But when we do things forthe past summit foundation or
the past summit leadershipgroup, and people don't hear
about mom, a lot of times, theytheir their life is just changed
(01:29):
in a way where, if they'd heardabout mom over time, it's like,
okay, but when somebody getssmacked in the face with some
Pat Summit it's pretty cool.What happens? Heck, we just, we
just got a testimonial. I'm it'son my desk right now. I didn't
go and start like this. How coolis this? This is a testimonial
for the past summit leadershipgroup and the online program.
It's this program. It's like aneight hour course on the
(01:50):
definite dozen. And my mom, youget certified in my mom's
definite dozen, her 12principles for success. This is
from the financial industry.This is an IT. Listen to this
testimonial, testimony says Iwas not from Tennessee. I didn't
really follow sports. Okay,sound familiar? I was a little
skeptical when this past summitonline leadership program was
(02:11):
introduced, thinking, How is abasketball coach going to teach
me an IT leader? I wasn't sure Iwould connect with her, but I
was sorely mistaken. I foundthat the way she loved and
invested in her people wasexactly how I felt a leader
should be, and I found myselfwanting to be more like her and
to see the impact that she hadon her people, even decades
after they're gone fromTennessee, basketball cemented
(02:34):
for me that how you treat peopleand lead people for the good or
the bad will follow them for therest of their lives. It makes me
strive every, every day, to bethe type of leader that impacts
my team in a positive way, and Iam more careful in the choices I
make daily. There you go.
Stephanie Maas (02:50):
Awesome. Okay. With that being said, I want you
to start from scratch, start atthe beginning.
Tyler Summitt (02:57):
Yeah, absolutely. My mom was just a winner. I
don't know how to put it. Shewas a winner. And it wasn't just
on the court, it was off thecourt. I mean, she literally
retired as the winningest coachin the industry, and so retire
with more wins than anybody, menor women. She was labeled the
coach of the century. That onealways gets me still like Coach
(03:19):
of the century, like forwhoever's listening to this,
take your title and put of thecentury out of it. Maybe you're
the salesperson. What if you'rethe salesperson of the century?
You know? Maybe you're the stayat home. Mom, what if you're a
stay at home? Mom, of thecentury. Is that not crazy? I
mean, of the century. And shegot the Presidential Medal of
Freedom, highest civilian honorthat you can possibly get. She
(03:40):
was top 50 female leaders in thecountry, like leader, not
sports. For those of you thataren't sports people, this ain't
about sports. It's about life,you know, and my mom got every
accolade you can imagine, gavekeynotes, did so much for
women's sports, yes, but womenin general, and honestly,
leadership and so it really,really proud of her. It started
(04:02):
when she was on a dairy farm.You know, she was so shy, like,
if you had met my mom back then,I'm told that you would not
think this was gonna be somebodythat went on to become a
celebrity. You know, one storythat she liked to tell about how
shy she was is when she wasplaying in the Olympics, and so
(04:22):
my mom is the head coach atTennessee, but playing in the
Olympics, there's no WNBA,there's no professional women's
professional basketball. They'dtake college players and a head
coach to go play in the Olympicsfor the 1976 How crazy is that
my mom ended up becoming thefirst American to win an Olympic
medal as both a player and acoach. And so she's playing in
(04:45):
the Olympics. And again, this isgoing to tell you who my mom was
back in the day, first game withher teammates, first team with
her coaches, and her dad comesto watch. He was a six foot five
tobacco farmer. I mean, this guyis scary. This guy is, like,
legit, and he's in the first.Front row, and he's up there and
he's yelling, rebound. Trish.Trish, rebound. My mom's full
(05:07):
name is Patricia, and her familycalled her Trish, not Pat.
Nobody knows that my mom's name,I mean, they all think this is
Pat. You know, they use Pat. Soit's like, Who's this guy
yelling at? So my mom's playinghard, but she said one of her
teammates that game had like 30rebounds. For those who don't
(05:27):
know basketball, 30 rebounds,it's crazy. And so my mom said
this teammate of hers had like30 rebounds. That teammates name
was Trish Roberts. Trish Robertsthought this scary six foot five
tobacco farmer was gonna killher if she didn't rebound.
Right? I tell that story becauseit shows who my mom was, this
shy farm girl, to be honest withyou, that was too shy to correct
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people at age 18, and she wastoo shy to do that, and now we
all know her as Pat Summitt, andI think that's just a message to
anybody listening. I don't knowwhat you're going through in
life, but I know that my mom'sstory can help you, because she
has gone through so many thingsthat we're going to talk about,
you know, on this podcast, thatit just shows you if you can do
things the right way, if you canmake winning an attitude, if you
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can be it's a mindset you cancontrol. It's in your control.
It's just a testament to whatyou can accomplish in life. My
mom went on to do all thosethings, but she had to go
through the wall of being shy.She had to attack that head on.
And so that gives you a kind oflike, where did she come from,
and then who did she become, andhow did she do it? So maybe that
was a good place to start.
Stephanie Maas (06:33):
Fantastic place to start. Okay, so incredible
icon. What's this Pat SummitLeadership Group, PSLG?
Tyler Summitt (06:42):
Yeah, that's a great question. It is an
organization that I co foundedso that people did not miss out
on knowing who my mom was, butmore importantly, on learning
from her and helping themselvesin their own life. You know, I
think there's certain figuresthat that can just impact
people. They're almost like, youknow, you hear their story and
you see what they've done, it'slike, oh my gosh, you just
(07:04):
believe and my mom was just oneof those people. And so, you
know, as an only child, I wantedto make sure people continued to
be successful, and it'shappening. Listen, I read you
that testimonial from thefinancial industry. I mean,
we've got entertainmentindustry. Dollywood's gone
through, finance industry,restaurant groups, construction
companies, healthcare, stay athome, parents, you name it.
(07:28):
Every industry is going throughthe trainings and listening to
keynotes and going through inperson workshops and going
through online programs and allthe above. We're reading books.
My mom is still impacting peopleright now, today, we're all over
the place, and we're helpingpeople in every industry. So
it's, it's so cool. What'shappening? It's my mom's
(07:48):
definite dozen the book shewrote back in the 90s is 12
principles for success.Everything's based off of that,
and that's what she attributesher success to. And it's
applying that to, okay, and yourcompany. How does that apply?
And again, it's changing livesfor the better. And as you can
imagine, as the only child, Imean, I just enjoy, I thoroughly
(08:08):
enjoy seeing people improvethrough my mom's legacy.
Stephanie Maas (08:12):
Ok, so drill down with me. So you're saying,
hey, it's these 12 principles.Where did these come from? What
are the real life applications,what are some of the takeaways
that you have seen be someaningful and impactful for
folks?
Tyler Summitt (08:26):
Absolutely. So my mom had a recipe for success.
It's that definite dozen. Now,when she wrote it, actually sat
down and wrote the book, she hadalready won three national
championships. She ended upwinning five more. And so the
definite doesn't. It's not likemy mom reinvented the wheel for
leadership. You know? It'sthings like communication,
(08:47):
respect, teamwork, hard work,things like that. And so there's
these skills, though, that itseems like we're losing in
today's day and age, right?Because of cell phones, because
all the noise and emails and thenews and all this stuff the
past. Summit leadership groupuses a variety of different
methods, in person, trainingonline, to come and say, Okay,
(09:10):
here's the right way to dothings. Here's how you can treat
people the right way. Here's howyou win in life with people. So
again, what are the real lifeapplications? Well, the first
thing that's really taken off iswhen you go through our online
programs, and we have multiplewe have one that's just overall
leadership definite does, and wehave one that's a power of teen.
(09:30):
We have one that's specific forwomen's leadership. So no matter
who you are, what industryyou're in, there's one for you.
And what we've seen is, is whenpeople go through that and they
spread it out over six months ora year, habits are formed,
right? And it's great to say,here are my goals, but let me
just watch you for a day, andI'll tell you who you are. Let
me watch your habits. Let mewatch what you do do. I don't
(09:52):
need you to tell me about youknow what you plan to do and
what you're thinking about, andwhat you tweeted you were going
to do, and what you told yourfriend you were going to do, and
what your New Year's resolution.I don't know any of that. I need
to see what you do with yourhabits, and then I'll tell you
who you are and what you'regoing to accomplish, and if
you're going to accomplish thegoals or not. And so that's what
the online program does. Ouronline programs, you can go the
(10:12):
website and look them all up.It'll take you through over
time, self paced, bite sizedlearning, and you learn, okay,
this is how I build habits, andso great place to start is right
there, with the website goingchecking out those online
programs.
Stephanie Maas (10:27):
So you said something super keen, and we've
talked a lot about this in thepodcast, is there is, without a
doubt, there's so muchconversation and content around
developing leadership skills anddeveloping leaders. And I think
this is part of what makes yourmom's story so unique. She was
on that cutting edge where a lotof leadership was really
(10:51):
management. They didn't callpeople leaders. So I would
imagine just simply the factthat she approached what she did
and how she did what she didfrom a leadership mentality
really made her stand out,because even coaches, they were
managers back in the day, that'show you led, is through managing
people, telling them what to do.It was very different. Well,
then we had this tremendousgrowth of folks like your mom,
(11:12):
that really took management andtransitioned it into true
leadership. It's inspiring. It'sthe Stephen Covey's the Pat
Summit. It is really looking atthings and learning different
what to me, is so interesting.It's like over the last several
years that has fallen to thewayside, because exactly what
(11:35):
you said, the distractions oftechnology and we are really
seeing this thirst and desireand avoid in this next
generation of leadership thattruly they know the term, they
know how to describe leadership,but they haven't experienced it,
and they certainly don't knowhow to implement it. What I'm
(11:55):
hearing from you is this is anopportunity in an organization
that's committed to bringingthat back and showing folks this
is how you develop, becauseleadership, it's this absolute
science, and I think that's whatI'm hearing from you, is your
mom figured that out and is ableto translate that to the masses.
Tyler Summitt (12:15):
No, you couldn't be more right. I mean, we every
day, and that's why I love thepast and leadership, we attack,
we absolutely attack the thingsthat technology is trying to do
to us, that negative news istrying to do, that all the noise
is trying to bring on us that,you know, everybody's trying to
play the game. Look at me. Lookat me. Look at your competing
and keeping up with the Joneses.And it's just like, ah, there's
so much noise we all know.Honestly, I think we all know
(12:38):
what we need to do. But are youdoing it? You know, are you
doing it for the people aroundyou? And yes, people we're
seeing with, with companies thatbring us in and like, hey, we
need help on loyalty andretention. And it's like, okay,
well, they're not leaving yourcompany. They're leaving your
leaders. They're not being led.They're not being invested in.
They're not improving. Theydon't see a future here. And mom
(12:59):
was so magical at this. Strategyis a word that we throw around a
lot. Let's do a SWOT analysis,and let's do all this
complicated stuff. Hold on asecond. Let's boil strategy
down. Because my mom was magicalat this. She was she was a
master at this. She had to dothis over and over again. In
games, she'd have 90 seconds. Ina basketball game, there's a
time out. It lasts 90 seconds,Max, some of them 30 seconds.
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And she'd have to bringeverybody in. She'd have to
listen to assistant coaches realquick, her staff, her C suite,
then she'd have to go into ahuddle again. All this in 90
seconds, get everybodyorganized. Say, Okay, here's
what we're going to do, here'show we're going to do it, and
here's why we're going to do it.Here's why it's going to work.
It made them believe in it. Andthen she'd say, Okay, now let's
go. And then she'd have to do itagain. She have to do it and
again. In the game. And then inher career, you gotta think, and
(13:46):
a college team, you lose 25% ofyour seniors, they leave. So you
25% of your team every year, andthey're like your leaders.
You're not losing front line. Soshe's losing 25% every year and
bringing in 25% which arerookies, fresh out of high
school. So every year she had togo through strategy, what, how
(14:06):
and why. And I think we'retalking about leadership. I
think we're losing sight ofmaking sure everybody has the
why, and we've, you know, we'veheard TED Talks and we've read
it, but I don't know your why.But do you do it like I'm
challenging the people listen tothis? Do you do that in every
area of life. Do you do it inyour faith? I don't care what
your faith is. Mom is aChristian, I'm a Christian, but
whatever that is for you. Do youhave that like you have a
(14:28):
strategy for your faith? We allhave mission statements at work.
Do you have a position statementfor your life? What about your
family? You have kids? Your kidsknow why they're here. Do they
know how to be successful? Theyknow what they're trying to do.
What about your significantother. Do you know what you're
trying to accomplish? Do youknow why you have that
relationship? Do you have ajoint statement where it's like,
this is what we're trying to do?My mom did it over and over and
(14:49):
over again. It was so simple,but everybody bought in because
she was a leader. And here's thesecret sauce, she would help
them with the what, the how andthe why. Okay, before a season
even. Started the what, let'sstart with the what. She would
say, okay, the what was usuallya national championship. And she
got eight of them, which is alot. So she would take them
through sometimes differentthings before a season, before a
(15:11):
game even started, she alwayssay, okay, what are we trying to
accomplish? NationalChampionship? All right, let's
go through the NationalChampionship celebration. They
haven't even played a game yet,and she says, We're going to
celebrate this year's nationalchampionship that they haven't
won yet. And she goes, Okay,we're all going to walk in a
line like this. All right. Nowyou're going to sit in this
order. But okay, good. The bandis on the left. Imagine them
there. The all the fans are onthe right. Okay, now, here's
(15:33):
what, here's the speech. I'lltalk first, you're captain. You
talk second, the banner is goingup right here. Hey, tomorrow,
does everybody have a suit and adress? We're going to the White
House to meet the Presidenttomorrow, because we won the
national championship. She'sliterally doing daily
affirmations. I mean, this is inthe 80s and 90s, so before our
time, she's literally takingthem through daily affirmations.
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It's like it already happened.It's like they already won in
April, but it's August. Andthen, I mean, they're, they're
months and months and months andmonths from even that game. They
don't even know if they're gonnamake it to that game. Everybody
knew the what now let's go thehat. Okay, she would have her
players lay down on the courtand visualize what they were
gonna do in the game the nextday. And listen, that was a lot
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for a coach to do that, becauseyou only got an hour for
tournament practices, which isnot a lot for a practice. You
only got an hour. She wouldseemingly waste practice time to
have them lay on the court,close their eyes and visualize
but it worked, and they beat thecompetition, and they were
successful. Do you do that inyour life? Are you doing that
with your team? Are you doingthat with your family? Are you
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doing that with your peers? Doyou wake up and have a horny
routine? That's what we'retrying to help people do before
you look at the phone and youlook at the noise and you look
at all this stuff, you've got totake control of your life.
You've got to take control ofyour team before we go through
the emails and you've got totake control and say, This is
what we're doing, how we'redoing let's go to the why,
because it's the most importantpoint. Everybody knows that. But
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listen to what my mom did. Mymom would have one on one
meetings with everybody in theorganization, everybody, and it
took some time, and everybody'slike, I don't have time, trust
me, you have time for this. Youhave time to have one on one
meetings with the people aroundyou. If you don't have time for
that, then come on, turn off theTV, turn off the emails, turn
off the shows, whatever you'redoing, get off of Twitter and
all the social media and have areal conversation with somebody
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and say, Okay, why are you doingthis? Why are you at our
company? What's the goal? Whatdo you want? Why are you here?
Like, why? Like, tell me yourwhy. And my mom would do that
with each player. She would knowthat player number one wanted to
go on and play professionally.She want to go overseas. She
want to travel the world playingbasketball. She'd know that
player number two just wanted tomake your family proud. That's
(17:40):
it. She didn't want to go on andplay pro. She wanted to do a
career, something else. And sowhat if my mom tried to do the
same speech to both of them?What if my mom tried to motivate
them the same way? What if mymom just came in like a cookie
cutter and like some managers,and said, All right, here's what
we got to do. Go and that's it.No, my mom would she still do
the what and the how? But thenshe go to player one, she said,
Hey, she would she whisper. Shesaid, Hey, there's going to be
(18:02):
pro scouts at that gametomorrow. You've got this.
You've got this. Your dreams arecoming. She go to player number
two, and she'd say, hey, hey,the game's on national TV
tomorrow, your family's going tobe so proud of you. You've
earned this. It was magical thatjust that small little 10
seconds to each individualreinforcing their why and their
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why fit under the company. Whythe business? Why the
organizations? Why, if we win asa team, everybody else
accomplishes their goals andreally caring about people. Mom
loved the quote, people do notcare about how much you know
until they know how much youcare. My mom cared. I mean, she
cared about people so much, andso I think that's a real life
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example of something my mom didover and over and over every
year.
Stephanie Maas (18:47):
I don't want to oversimplify this. I think you
just hit something that is soclutch. People know their what,
and it's not hard for them tofigure out what their what is.
They sometimes think they knowtheir why, but it's not until
they really share it withsomebody else and drill down
into the details. Does it reallycome to life? Which, when it
comes to life, it becomesmeaningful, but that middle
piece of the how that is where Ithink so many folks don't know,
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and what I'm really hearing isthis mission this group is to
bridge that gap. You think youknow what you want, you think
you know why. And we're going toexpand on all that. But most
importantly, let me show youhow.
Tyler Summitt (19:25):
Absolutely. And I think what comes into mind
when you say the how is, are youwilling to sit there and do all
the, you know, analyzing, allthe stuff you want to do, but
then can you simplify it? Andcan you say, Okay, here's what
I'm going to do every singleday. Mom had certain things she
did every single day, and shewas just consistent with that.
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She was always trying to improvethose areas. She was trying,
okay, let me, let me improvethis one a little bit, let me
improve this and all. But therewere certain things that she did
where she knew if I do thesethings, I might not win every
game. Right? My mom didn't winevery game, but she was a
winner. And over time, if you'rewilling to do that, you're
willing to do the things thatother people aren't willing to
(20:09):
do, you're eventually going toget things that other people
aren't willing to get. I mean,our world's competitive. I'm
just being honest. Really, itdoesn't matter about other
people, you know, they'rethey're competitive. It matters
about yourself. Are youcompeting? They'd be the best
person that you can be? Are youthe best version of yourself?
And that, again, is what mom didso well, and she knew how to do
it, and then she helped otherpeople know how to do it. You
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know, it's crazy, too. You talk,you talk about teen, you know,
there's a there's research onthis, and I've heard it various
different ways, but if you justhave an idea, just like I kind
of want to do something youactually have a small chance of
accomplishing. It's like 10%like, where it's just, I got an
idea like this, you know, Icould do this. And that's not
bad. Like, one in 10 shot, if Ijust think it's something, you
(20:51):
know, okay, if you create aSMART goal, and we all have
heard that ad, you know,specific, measurable, make sure
it's time out. If you do that,okay, it goes up. If you set a
how, like, how you're going todo it, the process, it actually
goes over 50% so that's whatgets you over 50% but if you set
up weekly accountabilitymeetings with other people and
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say, hey, check in on me onthis, hold me accountable to
this. And you actually attendthose meetings and they're
holding you accountable, youhave over a 90% success rate. So
you have the what you know yourwhy you got the how that got you
over the hump. Make sure there'sother people around you, you
know. Show me the cry, peopleyou surround yourself with, yada
yada yada, and we all know that.But do you do it? Do your
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friends know what you want toaccomplish? Your friends know
your dreams. You know theirdreams. Are you holding
accountable? Are you helpingeach other make good decisions?
Same with your family, same atwork. This is every area of
life. That's what I'm trying tosay the past seven leadership
group. It's about life. This islegit, and I've seen it work
because I grew up with it, and Isaw one of the biggest winners
of our time, and how she had anattitude, and how it was in her
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control, and how she helpedothers do it. And so yes, you
were exactly spot on the what,the how and the why, bridge and
the gap, and then, and thenhaving other people to help you
accomplish it with the past,some leadership group. I've seen
it help in times when times arereally, really hard. I don't
know life is this way. We'reeither coming out of a crisis.
We're in a crisis right now, orabout to go into one. Maybe
(22:17):
you're in one right now, andyou're trying to get a little
something, you're trying to geta little motivation, you're
trying to learn everything'sbeen learn everything's been
good. You might be going intoone, I hope it's really far from
now. The Pat Summitt leadershipgroup, we want to help you be
ready for those situations. Wewant to help you in life. We
want to help you prepare forthose things that you just don't
see coming when life just smashyou in the face.
Stephanie Maas (22:37):
Meaningful. Okay, slightly off topic, did
you play sports growing up?
Tyler Summitt (22:41):
I did. I played a little bit of everything. You
know, actually, one of my mom'sfavorite stories was the story
about me playing soccer. Andthis story goes into it shows
who my mom is and how much she'swilling to change and improve
over time. So you gottaunderstand, I'm playing soccer.
I'm like five, but at thatpoint, my mom's already done a
lot of the things. Like, she'salready been coaching for
(23:03):
decades. She's already on thecover of Sports Illustrated.
She's already known throughoutthe state of Tennessee. It's
like, you know, nowadays it'sPat Peyton, Dolly and Elvis.
Those are, like, the four firstname people that you'd at least
heard of if you're in the stateof Tennessee, right? And so
she's already that. She'salready celebrity. She's already
the greatest coach, the greatestin her industry, but she comes
this five year old soccer game,and, you know, I'm out there
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playing on the first half. It'sher first game, my first game,
every you know, and soeverything's new. So I'm out
there playing, I come over athalftime, and I say, okay, Mom,
how'd I do? And she said, Youdid all right. And you're, you
know, Seth, you're, you'relearning my mom. Now, you know,
that's not my mom, like you'restarting to learn. Like, it
doesn't sound like a pastsomething thing to say. So I was
like, now, come on, mom. Like,how'd I do? She said, Well,
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you're not being aggressive, notimpacting the game. You just
stand in there. Like, dosomething. Go that way. Go
there, go left, go right. Youknow, do something. I'm like,
okay, okay, I'm gonna help myteam. Okay, so I go back out
there. Second half, I'meverywhere. I am in line to in
line, sideline to sideline. I'mall over the place, and so I'm
winding I come over, I'mbreathing, come back over to my
(24:12):
head coach, and we get in ourhuddle, and he was not happy
with me. He was actually reallyupset at what I just done in
that second half. So I'mconfused. Now I walk slowly over
mom. I'm very confused as like,okay, Mom, you tell me to be
more aggressive. My coach justtold me I was playing out of my
position. My mom did not realizeI was the goalie in the car ride
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home. I i explained that as amom, yeah, I was, I was the
goalie, and she's, does thatmatter? And so, you know....
Stephanie Maas (24:46):
That's awesome.
Tyler Summitt (24:47):
It don't matter your position at basketball, or
you you're up and down, you'reside to side. So clearly, coach
of the century hadn't learnedsoccer yet. But reason I tell
that story, the reason she toldthat story, is what she did
after my mom coaches. Century.Took pen and paper. She goes to
a 23 year old assistant soccercoach at Tennessee. That soccer
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coach went on to be the headcoach. She's a Texas now she's
the head coach of Texas, so sheknew what she was talking about,
but my mom didn't know thatshe's 23 and so my mom goes and
sits down pen and paper, says,Hey, can you teach me soccer?
And starts taking notes. Thenthat tells you how much my mom
was investing in family, and sheknew how to be a good mom, but
then she started taking notes onteam bonding exercises, how to
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build culture. See, soccer hasmore players than basketball, so
my mom's thinking, if it'll workfor 20 people, it'll work for my
10 players. Starts taking notes.My Mom won two more national
championships after that, aftertaking notes like that, using
some of those team bondingexercises, using some of those
things that help your culture,and needed them too. With that
2007 2008 national championshipback to back, she needed some
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those personalities didn't mixat the beginning. A lot of
people don't know that, butthose teams needed some of that,
and she used that. So again, Iasked, Are you open to change?
Are you comfortable beinguncomfortable? Think about how
uncomfortable you would be ifyou are whatever you are of the
century. You're the best. Andyou go there and you're taking
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notes to 20 something, andyou're taking notes and you're
going back to where the industryyou're really good at, you're
applying it. I mean, how open tochange could you possibly be?
And so that I asked somebodylisten like, Are you resisting
change? Is there somewhere inyour life, career, home, maybe
in your health? I don't know.Are you resisting change? That's
what we enjoy helping with.That's what mom enjoy helping
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people with, being comfortable,being uncomfortable, being
comfortable with change. Thatwas one of the things my mom was
actually consistent. At. Soundsweird. She was consistent being
uncomfortable. She wasconsistent changing and always
trying to get better. So thatwas a long winded answer to say.
Did I play sports? But yes.
Stephanie Maas (26:54):
That's awesome. This has been so meaningful. You
know, I could have gone onlineand read her bio, but hearing
you talk about her supermeaningful. And I think it
really shows again. One of myfavorite quotes that you quoted
was people don't care how muchyou know until they know how
much you care, and this reallybrings that to light. Yes,
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you're honoring your mom withouta doubt, but you're also really
putting into others to bettertheir lives, an amazing woman.
Thank you for helping me get toknow her today.
Tyler Summitt (27:24):
Absolutely. Thank you so much for having me.
Hey, Tyler, how are you?
Tyler Summitt (00:53):
Good, how you doing?
Stephanie Maas (00:55):
I'm good. It's super nice to meet you.
Tyler Summitt (00:57):
Absolutely likewise. Thanks for having me
on.
Stephanie Maas (00:59):
So I'm not from Tennessee. I don't know anything
about basketball. I know yourmom is ridiculously respected. I
know enough to know that.
Tyler Summitt (01:07):
You know what's awesome. I love that. You know
why I love that? Because I lovetalking to people that have not
heard of mom. Because a lot oftimes, if people have heard of
Mom, it's like, oh yeah, I'veheard that. I've heard that
story. But when we do things forthe past summit foundation or
the past summit leadershipgroup, and people don't hear
about mom, a lot of times, theytheir their life is just changed
(01:29):
in a way where, if they'd heardabout mom over time, it's like,
okay, but when somebody getssmacked in the face with some
Pat Summit it's pretty cool.What happens? Heck, we just, we
just got a testimonial. I'm it'son my desk right now. I didn't
go and start like this. How coolis this? This is a testimonial
for the past summit leadershipgroup and the online program.
It's this program. It's like aneight hour course on the
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definite dozen. And my mom, youget certified in my mom's
definite dozen, her 12principles for success. This is
from the financial industry.This is an IT. Listen to this
testimonial, testimony says Iwas not from Tennessee. I didn't
really follow sports. Okay,sound familiar? I was a little
skeptical when this past summitonline leadership program was
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introduced, thinking, How is abasketball coach going to teach
me an IT leader? I wasn't sure Iwould connect with her, but I
was sorely mistaken. I foundthat the way she loved and
invested in her people wasexactly how I felt a leader
should be, and I found myselfwanting to be more like her and
to see the impact that she hadon her people, even decades
after they're gone fromTennessee, basketball cemented
(02:34):
for me that how you treat peopleand lead people for the good or
the bad will follow them for therest of their lives. It makes me
strive every, every day, to bethe type of leader that impacts
my team in a positive way, and Iam more careful in the choices I
make daily. There you go.
Stephanie Maas (02:50):
Awesome. Okay. With that being said, I want you
to start from scratch, start atthe beginning.
Tyler Summitt (02:57):
Yeah, absolutely. My mom was just a winner. I
don't know how to put it. Shewas a winner. And it wasn't just
on the court, it was off thecourt. I mean, she literally
retired as the winningest coachin the industry, and so retire
with more wins than anybody, menor women. She was labeled the
coach of the century. That onealways gets me still like Coach
(03:19):
of the century, like forwhoever's listening to this,
take your title and put of thecentury out of it. Maybe you're
the salesperson. What if you'rethe salesperson of the century?
You know? Maybe you're the stayat home. Mom, what if you're a
stay at home? Mom, of thecentury. Is that not crazy? I
mean, of the century. And shegot the Presidential Medal of
Freedom, highest civilian honorthat you can possibly get. She
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was top 50 female leaders in thecountry, like leader, not
sports. For those of you thataren't sports people, this ain't
about sports. It's about life,you know, and my mom got every
accolade you can imagine, gavekeynotes, did so much for
women's sports, yes, but womenin general, and honestly,
leadership and so it really,really proud of her. It started
(04:02):
when she was on a dairy farm.You know, she was so shy, like,
if you had met my mom back then,I'm told that you would not
think this was gonna be somebodythat went on to become a
celebrity. You know, one storythat she liked to tell about how
shy she was is when she wasplaying in the Olympics, and so
(04:22):
my mom is the head coach atTennessee, but playing in the
Olympics, there's no WNBA,there's no professional women's
professional basketball. They'dtake college players and a head
coach to go play in the Olympicsfor the 1976 How crazy is that
my mom ended up becoming thefirst American to win an Olympic
medal as both a player and acoach. And so she's playing in
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the Olympics. And again, this isgoing to tell you who my mom was
back in the day, first game withher teammates, first team with
her coaches, and her dad comesto watch. He was a six foot five
tobacco farmer. I mean, this guyis scary. This guy is, like,
legit, and he's in the first.Front row, and he's up there and
he's yelling, rebound. Trish.Trish, rebound. My mom's full
(05:07):
name is Patricia, and her familycalled her Trish, not Pat.
Nobody knows that my mom's name,I mean, they all think this is
Pat. You know, they use Pat. Soit's like, Who's this guy
yelling at? So my mom's playinghard, but she said one of her
teammates that game had like 30rebounds. For those who don't
(05:27):
know basketball, 30 rebounds,it's crazy. And so my mom said
this teammate of hers had like30 rebounds. That teammates name
was Trish Roberts. Trish Robertsthought this scary six foot five
tobacco farmer was gonna killher if she didn't rebound.
Right? I tell that story becauseit shows who my mom was, this
shy farm girl, to be honest withyou, that was too shy to correct
(05:51):
people at age 18, and she wastoo shy to do that, and now we
all know her as Pat Summitt, andI think that's just a message to
anybody listening. I don't knowwhat you're going through in
life, but I know that my mom'sstory can help you, because she
has gone through so many thingsthat we're going to talk about,
you know, on this podcast, thatit just shows you if you can do
things the right way, if you canmake winning an attitude, if you
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can be it's a mindset you cancontrol. It's in your control.
It's just a testament to whatyou can accomplish in life. My
mom went on to do all thosethings, but she had to go
through the wall of being shy.She had to attack that head on.
And so that gives you a kind oflike, where did she come from,
and then who did she become, andhow did she do it? So maybe that
was a good place to start.
Stephanie Maas (06:33):
Fantastic place to start. Okay, so incredible
icon. What's this Pat SummitLeadership Group, PSLG?
Tyler Summitt (06:42):
Yeah, that's a great question. It is an
organization that I co foundedso that people did not miss out
on knowing who my mom was, butmore importantly, on learning
from her and helping themselvesin their own life. You know, I
think there's certain figuresthat that can just impact
people. They're almost like, youknow, you hear their story and
you see what they've done, it'slike, oh my gosh, you just
(07:04):
believe and my mom was just oneof those people. And so, you
know, as an only child, I wantedto make sure people continued to
be successful, and it'shappening. Listen, I read you
that testimonial from thefinancial industry. I mean,
we've got entertainmentindustry. Dollywood's gone
through, finance industry,restaurant groups, construction
companies, healthcare, stay athome, parents, you name it.
(07:28):
Every industry is going throughthe trainings and listening to
keynotes and going through inperson workshops and going
through online programs and allthe above. We're reading books.
My mom is still impacting peopleright now, today, we're all over
the place, and we're helpingpeople in every industry. So
it's, it's so cool. What'shappening? It's my mom's
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definite dozen the book shewrote back in the 90s is 12
principles for success.Everything's based off of that,
and that's what she attributesher success to. And it's
applying that to, okay, and yourcompany. How does that apply?
And again, it's changing livesfor the better. And as you can
imagine, as the only child, Imean, I just enjoy, I thoroughly
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enjoy seeing people improvethrough my mom's legacy.
Stephanie Maas (08:12):
Ok, so drill down with me. So you're saying,
hey, it's these 12 principles.Where did these come from? What
are the real life applications,what are some of the takeaways
that you have seen be someaningful and impactful for
folks?
Tyler Summitt (08:26):
Absolutely. So my mom had a recipe for success.
It's that definite dozen. Now,when she wrote it, actually sat
down and wrote the book, she hadalready won three national
championships. She ended upwinning five more. And so the
definite doesn't. It's not likemy mom reinvented the wheel for
leadership. You know? It'sthings like communication,
(08:47):
respect, teamwork, hard work,things like that. And so there's
these skills, though, that itseems like we're losing in
today's day and age, right?Because of cell phones, because
all the noise and emails and thenews and all this stuff the
past. Summit leadership groupuses a variety of different
methods, in person, trainingonline, to come and say, Okay,
(09:10):
here's the right way to dothings. Here's how you can treat
people the right way. Here's howyou win in life with people. So
again, what are the real lifeapplications? Well, the first
thing that's really taken off iswhen you go through our online
programs, and we have multiplewe have one that's just overall
leadership definite does, and wehave one that's a power of teen.
(09:30):
We have one that's specific forwomen's leadership. So no matter
who you are, what industryyou're in, there's one for you.
And what we've seen is, is whenpeople go through that and they
spread it out over six months ora year, habits are formed,
right? And it's great to say,here are my goals, but let me
just watch you for a day, andI'll tell you who you are. Let
me watch your habits. Let mewatch what you do do. I don't
(09:52):
need you to tell me about youknow what you plan to do and
what you're thinking about, andwhat you tweeted you were going
to do, and what you told yourfriend you were going to do, and
what your New Year's resolution.I don't know any of that. I need
to see what you do with yourhabits, and then I'll tell you
who you are and what you'regoing to accomplish, and if
you're going to accomplish thegoals or not. And so that's what
the online program does. Ouronline programs, you can go the
(10:12):
website and look them all up.It'll take you through over
time, self paced, bite sizedlearning, and you learn, okay,
this is how I build habits, andso great place to start is right
there, with the website goingchecking out those online
programs.
Stephanie Maas (10:27):
So you said something super keen, and we've
talked a lot about this in thepodcast, is there is, without a
doubt, there's so muchconversation and content around
developing leadership skills anddeveloping leaders. And I think
this is part of what makes yourmom's story so unique. She was
on that cutting edge where a lotof leadership was really
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management. They didn't callpeople leaders. So I would
imagine just simply the factthat she approached what she did
and how she did what she didfrom a leadership mentality
really made her stand out,because even coaches, they were
managers back in the day, that'show you led, is through managing
people, telling them what to do.It was very different. Well,
then we had this tremendousgrowth of folks like your mom,
(11:12):
that really took management andtransitioned it into true
leadership. It's inspiring. It'sthe Stephen Covey's the Pat
Summit. It is really looking atthings and learning different
what to me, is so interesting.It's like over the last several
years that has fallen to thewayside, because exactly what
(11:35):
you said, the distractions oftechnology and we are really
seeing this thirst and desireand avoid in this next
generation of leadership thattruly they know the term, they
know how to describe leadership,but they haven't experienced it,
and they certainly don't knowhow to implement it. What I'm
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hearing from you is this is anopportunity in an organization
that's committed to bringingthat back and showing folks this
is how you develop, becauseleadership, it's this absolute
science, and I think that's whatI'm hearing from you, is your
mom figured that out and is ableto translate that to the masses.
Tyler Summitt (12:15):
No, you couldn't be more right. I mean, we every
day, and that's why I love thepast and leadership, we attack,
we absolutely attack the thingsthat technology is trying to do
to us, that negative news istrying to do, that all the noise
is trying to bring on us that,you know, everybody's trying to
play the game. Look at me. Lookat me. Look at your competing
and keeping up with the Joneses.And it's just like, ah, there's
so much noise we all know.Honestly, I think we all know
(12:38):
what we need to do. But are youdoing it? You know, are you
doing it for the people aroundyou? And yes, people we're
seeing with, with companies thatbring us in and like, hey, we
need help on loyalty andretention. And it's like, okay,
well, they're not leaving yourcompany. They're leaving your
leaders. They're not being led.They're not being invested in.
They're not improving. Theydon't see a future here. And mom
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was so magical at this. Strategyis a word that we throw around a
lot. Let's do a SWOT analysis,and let's do all this
complicated stuff. Hold on asecond. Let's boil strategy
down. Because my mom was magicalat this. She was she was a
master at this. She had to dothis over and over again. In
games, she'd have 90 seconds. Ina basketball game, there's a
time out. It lasts 90 seconds,Max, some of them 30 seconds.
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And she'd have to bringeverybody in. She'd have to
listen to assistant coaches realquick, her staff, her C suite,
then she'd have to go into ahuddle again. All this in 90
seconds, get everybodyorganized. Say, Okay, here's
what we're going to do, here'show we're going to do it, and
here's why we're going to do it.Here's why it's going to work.
It made them believe in it. Andthen she'd say, Okay, now let's
go. And then she'd have to do itagain. She have to do it and
again. In the game. And then inher career, you gotta think, and
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a college team, you lose 25% ofyour seniors, they leave. So you
25% of your team every year, andthey're like your leaders.
You're not losing front line. Soshe's losing 25% every year and
bringing in 25% which arerookies, fresh out of high
school. So every year she had togo through strategy, what, how
(14:06):
and why. And I think we'retalking about leadership. I
think we're losing sight ofmaking sure everybody has the
why, and we've, you know, we'veheard TED Talks and we've read
it, but I don't know your why.But do you do it like I'm
challenging the people listen tothis? Do you do that in every
area of life. Do you do it inyour faith? I don't care what
your faith is. Mom is aChristian, I'm a Christian, but
whatever that is for you. Do youhave that like you have a
(14:28):
strategy for your faith? We allhave mission statements at work.
Do you have a position statementfor your life? What about your
family? You have kids? Your kidsknow why they're here. Do they
know how to be successful? Theyknow what they're trying to do.
What about your significantother. Do you know what you're
trying to accomplish? Do youknow why you have that
relationship? Do you have ajoint statement where it's like,
this is what we're trying to do?My mom did it over and over and
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over again. It was so simple,but everybody bought in because
she was a leader. And here's thesecret sauce, she would help
them with the what, the how andthe why. Okay, before a season
even. Started the what, let'sstart with the what. She would
say, okay, the what was usuallya national championship. And she
got eight of them, which is alot. So she would take them
through sometimes differentthings before a season, before a
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game even started, she alwayssay, okay, what are we trying to
accomplish? NationalChampionship? All right, let's
go through the NationalChampionship celebration. They
haven't even played a game yet,and she says, We're going to
celebrate this year's nationalchampionship that they haven't
won yet. And she goes, Okay,we're all going to walk in a
line like this. All right. Nowyou're going to sit in this
order. But okay, good. The bandis on the left. Imagine them
there. The all the fans are onthe right. Okay, now, here's
(15:33):
what, here's the speech. I'lltalk first, you're captain. You
talk second, the banner is goingup right here. Hey, tomorrow,
does everybody have a suit and adress? We're going to the White
House to meet the Presidenttomorrow, because we won the
national championship. She'sliterally doing daily
affirmations. I mean, this is inthe 80s and 90s, so before our
time, she's literally takingthem through daily affirmations.
(15:54):
It's like it already happened.It's like they already won in
April, but it's August. Andthen, I mean, they're, they're
months and months and months andmonths from even that game. They
don't even know if they're gonnamake it to that game. Everybody
knew the what now let's go thehat. Okay, she would have her
players lay down on the courtand visualize what they were
gonna do in the game the nextday. And listen, that was a lot
(16:15):
for a coach to do that, becauseyou only got an hour for
tournament practices, which isnot a lot for a practice. You
only got an hour. She wouldseemingly waste practice time to
have them lay on the court,close their eyes and visualize
but it worked, and they beat thecompetition, and they were
successful. Do you do that inyour life? Are you doing that
with your team? Are you doingthat with your family? Are you
(16:35):
doing that with your peers? Doyou wake up and have a horny
routine? That's what we'retrying to help people do before
you look at the phone and youlook at the noise and you look
at all this stuff, you've got totake control of your life.
You've got to take control ofyour team before we go through
the emails and you've got totake control and say, This is
what we're doing, how we'redoing let's go to the why,
because it's the most importantpoint. Everybody knows that. But
(16:56):
listen to what my mom did. Mymom would have one on one
meetings with everybody in theorganization, everybody, and it
took some time, and everybody'slike, I don't have time, trust
me, you have time for this. Youhave time to have one on one
meetings with the people aroundyou. If you don't have time for
that, then come on, turn off theTV, turn off the emails, turn
off the shows, whatever you'redoing, get off of Twitter and
all the social media and have areal conversation with somebody
(17:19):
and say, Okay, why are you doingthis? Why are you at our
company? What's the goal? Whatdo you want? Why are you here?
Like, why? Like, tell me yourwhy. And my mom would do that
with each player. She would knowthat player number one wanted to
go on and play professionally.She want to go overseas. She
want to travel the world playingbasketball. She'd know that
player number two just wanted tomake your family proud. That's
(17:40):
it. She didn't want to go on andplay pro. She wanted to do a
career, something else. And sowhat if my mom tried to do the
same speech to both of them?What if my mom tried to motivate
them the same way? What if mymom just came in like a cookie
cutter and like some managers,and said, All right, here's what
we got to do. Go and that's it.No, my mom would she still do
the what and the how? But thenshe go to player one, she said,
Hey, she would she whisper. Shesaid, Hey, there's going to be
(18:02):
pro scouts at that gametomorrow. You've got this.
You've got this. Your dreams arecoming. She go to player number
two, and she'd say, hey, hey,the game's on national TV
tomorrow, your family's going tobe so proud of you. You've
earned this. It was magical thatjust that small little 10
seconds to each individualreinforcing their why and their
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why fit under the company. Whythe business? Why the
organizations? Why, if we win asa team, everybody else
accomplishes their goals andreally caring about people. Mom
loved the quote, people do notcare about how much you know
until they know how much youcare. My mom cared. I mean, she
cared about people so much, andso I think that's a real life
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example of something my mom didover and over and over every
year.
Stephanie Maas (18:47):
I don't want to oversimplify this. I think you
just hit something that is soclutch. People know their what,
and it's not hard for them tofigure out what their what is.
They sometimes think they knowtheir why, but it's not until
they really share it withsomebody else and drill down
into the details. Does it reallycome to life? Which, when it
comes to life, it becomesmeaningful, but that middle
piece of the how that is where Ithink so many folks don't know,
(19:11):
and what I'm really hearing isthis mission this group is to
bridge that gap. You think youknow what you want, you think
you know why. And we're going toexpand on all that. But most
importantly, let me show youhow.
Tyler Summitt (19:25):
Absolutely. And I think what comes into mind
when you say the how is, are youwilling to sit there and do all
the, you know, analyzing, allthe stuff you want to do, but
then can you simplify it? Andcan you say, Okay, here's what
I'm going to do every singleday. Mom had certain things she
did every single day, and shewas just consistent with that.
(19:48):
She was always trying to improvethose areas. She was trying,
okay, let me, let me improvethis one a little bit, let me
improve this and all. But therewere certain things that she did
where she knew if I do thesethings, I might not win every
game. Right? My mom didn't winevery game, but she was a
winner. And over time, if you'rewilling to do that, you're
willing to do the things thatother people aren't willing to
(20:09):
do, you're eventually going toget things that other people
aren't willing to get. I mean,our world's competitive. I'm
just being honest. Really, itdoesn't matter about other
people, you know, they'rethey're competitive. It matters
about yourself. Are youcompeting? They'd be the best
person that you can be? Are youthe best version of yourself?
And that, again, is what mom didso well, and she knew how to do
it, and then she helped otherpeople know how to do it. You
(20:31):
know, it's crazy, too. You talk,you talk about teen, you know,
there's a there's research onthis, and I've heard it various
different ways, but if you justhave an idea, just like I kind
of want to do something youactually have a small chance of
accomplishing. It's like 10%like, where it's just, I got an
idea like this, you know, Icould do this. And that's not
bad. Like, one in 10 shot, if Ijust think it's something, you
(20:51):
know, okay, if you create aSMART goal, and we all have
heard that ad, you know,specific, measurable, make sure
it's time out. If you do that,okay, it goes up. If you set a
how, like, how you're going todo it, the process, it actually
goes over 50% so that's whatgets you over 50% but if you set
up weekly accountabilitymeetings with other people and
(21:13):
say, hey, check in on me onthis, hold me accountable to
this. And you actually attendthose meetings and they're
holding you accountable, youhave over a 90% success rate. So
you have the what you know yourwhy you got the how that got you
over the hump. Make sure there'sother people around you, you
know. Show me the cry, peopleyou surround yourself with, yada
yada yada, and we all know that.But do you do it? Do your
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friends know what you want toaccomplish? Your friends know
your dreams. You know theirdreams. Are you holding
accountable? Are you helpingeach other make good decisions?
Same with your family, same atwork. This is every area of
life. That's what I'm trying tosay the past seven leadership
group. It's about life. This islegit, and I've seen it work
because I grew up with it, and Isaw one of the biggest winners
of our time, and how she had anattitude, and how it was in her
(21:55):
control, and how she helpedothers do it. And so yes, you
were exactly spot on the what,the how and the why, bridge and
the gap, and then, and thenhaving other people to help you
accomplish it with the past,some leadership group. I've seen
it help in times when times arereally, really hard. I don't
know life is this way. We'reeither coming out of a crisis.
We're in a crisis right now, orabout to go into one. Maybe
(22:17):
you're in one right now, andyou're trying to get a little
something, you're trying to geta little motivation, you're
trying to learn everything'sbeen learn everything's been
good. You might be going intoone, I hope it's really far from
now. The Pat Summitt leadershipgroup, we want to help you be
ready for those situations. Wewant to help you in life. We
want to help you prepare forthose things that you just don't
see coming when life just smashyou in the face.
Stephanie Maas (22:37):
Meaningful. Okay, slightly off topic, did
you play sports growing up?
Tyler Summitt (22:41):
I did. I played a little bit of everything. You
know, actually, one of my mom'sfavorite stories was the story
about me playing soccer. Andthis story goes into it shows
who my mom is and how much she'swilling to change and improve
over time. So you gottaunderstand, I'm playing soccer.
I'm like five, but at thatpoint, my mom's already done a
lot of the things. Like, she'salready been coaching for
(23:03):
decades. She's already on thecover of Sports Illustrated.
She's already known throughoutthe state of Tennessee. It's
like, you know, nowadays it'sPat Peyton, Dolly and Elvis.
Those are, like, the four firstname people that you'd at least
heard of if you're in the stateof Tennessee, right? And so
she's already that. She'salready celebrity. She's already
the greatest coach, the greatestin her industry, but she comes
this five year old soccer game,and, you know, I'm out there
(23:26):
playing on the first half. It'sher first game, my first game,
every you know, and soeverything's new. So I'm out
there playing, I come over athalftime, and I say, okay, Mom,
how'd I do? And she said, Youdid all right. And you're, you
know, Seth, you're, you'relearning my mom. Now, you know,
that's not my mom, like you'restarting to learn. Like, it
doesn't sound like a pastsomething thing to say. So I was
like, now, come on, mom. Like,how'd I do? She said, Well,
(23:48):
you're not being aggressive, notimpacting the game. You just
stand in there. Like, dosomething. Go that way. Go
there, go left, go right. Youknow, do something. I'm like,
okay, okay, I'm gonna help myteam. Okay, so I go back out
there. Second half, I'meverywhere. I am in line to in
line, sideline to sideline. I'mall over the place, and so I'm
winding I come over, I'mbreathing, come back over to my
(24:12):
head coach, and we get in ourhuddle, and he was not happy
with me. He was actually reallyupset at what I just done in
that second half. So I'mconfused. Now I walk slowly over
mom. I'm very confused as like,okay, Mom, you tell me to be
more aggressive. My coach justtold me I was playing out of my
position. My mom did not realizeI was the goalie in the car ride
(24:37):
home. I i explained that as amom, yeah, I was, I was the
goalie, and she's, does thatmatter? And so, you know....
Stephanie Maas (24:46):
That's awesome.
Tyler Summitt (24:47):
It don't matter your position at basketball, or
you you're up and down, you'reside to side. So clearly, coach
of the century hadn't learnedsoccer yet. But reason I tell
that story, the reason she toldthat story, is what she did
after my mom coaches. Century.Took pen and paper. She goes to
a 23 year old assistant soccercoach at Tennessee. That soccer
(25:07):
coach went on to be the headcoach. She's a Texas now she's
the head coach of Texas, so sheknew what she was talking about,
but my mom didn't know thatshe's 23 and so my mom goes and
sits down pen and paper, says,Hey, can you teach me soccer?
And starts taking notes. Thenthat tells you how much my mom
was investing in family, and sheknew how to be a good mom, but
then she started taking notes onteam bonding exercises, how to
(25:30):
build culture. See, soccer hasmore players than basketball, so
my mom's thinking, if it'll workfor 20 people, it'll work for my
10 players. Starts taking notes.My Mom won two more national
championships after that, aftertaking notes like that, using
some of those team bondingexercises, using some of those
things that help your culture,and needed them too. With that
2007 2008 national championshipback to back, she needed some
(25:54):
those personalities didn't mixat the beginning. A lot of
people don't know that, butthose teams needed some of that,
and she used that. So again, Iasked, Are you open to change?
Are you comfortable beinguncomfortable? Think about how
uncomfortable you would be ifyou are whatever you are of the
century. You're the best. Andyou go there and you're taking
(26:14):
notes to 20 something, andyou're taking notes and you're
going back to where the industryyou're really good at, you're
applying it. I mean, how open tochange could you possibly be?
And so that I asked somebodylisten like, Are you resisting
change? Is there somewhere inyour life, career, home, maybe
in your health? I don't know.Are you resisting change? That's
what we enjoy helping with.That's what mom enjoy helping
(26:36):
people with, being comfortable,being uncomfortable, being
comfortable with change. Thatwas one of the things my mom was
actually consistent. At. Soundsweird. She was consistent being
uncomfortable. She wasconsistent changing and always
trying to get better. So thatwas a long winded answer to say.
Did I play sports? But yes.
Stephanie Maas (26:54):
That's awesome. This has been so meaningful. You
know, I could have gone onlineand read her bio, but hearing
you talk about her supermeaningful. And I think it
really shows again. One of myfavorite quotes that you quoted
was people don't care how muchyou know until they know how
much you care, and this reallybrings that to light. Yes,
(27:14):
you're honoring your mom withouta doubt, but you're also really
putting into others to bettertheir lives, an amazing woman.
Thank you for helping me get toknow her today.
Tyler Summitt (27:24):
Absolutely. Thank you so much for having me.
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