April 8, 2025 • 14 mins
Entrepreneur, author, speaker, and Founder/CEO of GameChangers Inc, Peter Voogd, breaks down the mental blocks keeping even very successful people from making six figures, the trick to getting out of "the gap", how to check the balance of your "confidence account", and the importance of separating growth friends from maintenance friends.
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Host (00:00):
Grab a pen, because this is a name that you're going to
(00:02):
hear often in the next fewyears. His name is Peter Voogd,
and he's a podcaster. He's theCEO of GameChangersmovement.com
he first started in business at15 years old. By age 22 he had
(00:32):
the classic entrepreneur storyjust broke and stressed, but
then in a year, a year later, hemade a six figure income, and
(01:09):
within three and a half yearsafter that, he had made a
combined total income of over $1million. He now talks about
that formula in Six Months toSix Figures. Peter, thanks for
being here.
Peter Voogd (01:23):
Thank you for having me. And I'm excited to
add as much value as I possiblycan.
Host (01:27):
So I want to kind of zero in on the mental side of this,
like breaking past that sixfigure mark. Do you agree that
it's mostly a mental block?
Peter Voogd (01:36):
Oh, 100% I think, I mean 70 or 80% of it. I think
it's mental, because I seepeople that have capacity and
the skills to get the sixfigures, but they're stuck
making 60 a year because theycan't get past them at the
block. So I fully agree. I thinkthere's kind of two parts to it.
I think one is they're living inthe gap, which means the gap of
where they want to go, which is100k to where they are, maybe
(01:58):
it's 50. They're living inwishing they made 100k thinking
they can't make 100k and they'renot appreciating and being
grateful for where they alreadycame and the progress they've
made. So they're taking too muchof a jump mentally, where it's
almost like you get overwhelmed,and when you're overwhelmed, you
seek distraction. So it's almostlike a self fulfilling prophecy.
(02:18):
If they don't feel like theyhave that could pass to your
potential to make that 100kthey're not going to take the
right action. And when you don'ttake the right action, you get
small results, and then theyreinforce to themselves, yeah, I
knew I couldn't make sixfigures, and it's an ongoing
thing. Whereas the mostsuccessful people make a
definite decision that they'regoing to make, that they put the
(02:39):
steps in place and make a plan,and they take big action, and
that big action produces biggerresults, and then they reinforce
themselves. I knew I could dothis. That's the first part. Is
that mental, that they live inthat gap without actually having
the right strategies andfocusing on consistent progress.
And I think they also comparethemselves to others, which is
(03:00):
definitely very miserable to dothat. And the second thing is, I
don't think the people that arearound or their circle of
influence is congruent to that.Whereas, if they're making 50k a
year, their five best friends,if they add up the income of the
people they hang out with themost, it probably averages
between 50 and 60 a year. So forme, when I was broke, I remember
(03:22):
hanging out with most of thepeople in my company, and they
were struggling, and the sadthing is, they were okay with
it. So I really I reevaluatedand figured out, okay, if
everyone I'm hanging out withthis okay with mediocrity and
doesn't have the standards Iwant to live, I need to shift my
influence. So I think it's a mixbetween that living in the gap
and then not having the rightcircle of influence to really
(03:43):
pull them up to the higherstandard of six figures. And I
feel like if people are sofocused on six figures that they
forget that they need to make 70and then 91st to make 100 it's
going to get them demotivated.So when I was, for example, we
wanted to go for I remember whenI was new to direct sales, I
wanted my office to shoot for a$40,000 week in sales. And in my
(04:07):
mind, I'm like, I don't know howthat's gonna happen, but I was
dedicated to it, but I didn'tknow how it was gonna happen.
And I would think in my head,oh, if I could just do 40 grand
in a week, that is just, I wouldbe on top of the world. Fast
forward to the next summer, whenwe're doing 130k weeks, and I
was mad if we didn't do 100 it'snot that I totally changed
(04:27):
atmospheres and environments andI had new people. No, it's just
my capacity shifted, because Ican strictly elevate my results.
So I think that's the key too,is not focusing on doing the
huge numbers right away, buthaving the action steps and
making sure you have progresschecked along the way. And then
on top of that, connecting withpeople that are already doing
it, so they can cut yourlearning curve in half and you
(04:48):
can get there with it.
Host (04:50):
Yeah, well, if you say this is what I'm going to do,
then you are forcing yourself tocome up with a plan to do it.
But if you say this is somethingI'd like to do, but I don't
think it's really possible.People, you're forcing yourself
to live in that conundrum of, Idon't think I can ever pull it
off.
Peter Voogd (05:05):
Oh, 100% and one of the biggest keys that I talk in
my book is you don't have tocome up with the answers. If you
want to make six figure income,or if you want to become a best
calling author, you have to findthe best people that have
already done it and bepersistent and start connecting
with them so they can give youthe answers, what they did well,
what they would do differently,and that way you can literally
(05:28):
cut your learning curve and app.I didn't want to be a best
selling author and number one onKindle. I found a team that
already did it and gave me thesteps they need to go find the
best people near them and mentorthem and ask them questions and
take them to lunch, becausethat's how they're going to get
to the next level. And you'reeither hanging out with people
that are holding you accountableor letting you off the hook.
(05:50):
There's no in between.
Host (05:51):
Yeah, it is wild. So give us some more practical things in
terms of, you know, let's sayI'm listening to this and I'm
one of those people that going,Yeah, I've been stuck. And, you
know, could be, could be anyplateau. What are? What are some
of the tangible things that Icould start doing to help me go
from, you know, broke to sixfigures in six months, or if I'm
(06:13):
at 200,000 How can I add anothersix figures in six months? What
are the practices?
Peter Voogd (06:20):
Good question. So yeah, and I pride myself in
being more comprehensive andpractical versus, like,
motivational words, like, youjust got to do it, right? I know
a lot of folks said better,like, just do it. But the
reality is, you do have to havepractical steps and tactical
steps as well. So Well, thefirst step, really, is you have
to gain absolute clarity on whoyou are, what your strengths
are, and who you need on yourteam, and then you have to
(06:43):
reverse engineer. So the mostpeople I've talked to whether
they're making 250 a year,whether they're making 50 a
year, they don't have a clearand precise bullet proof plan on
how to get to the next level. Sothey haven't clearly defined
exactly how to get there. So onething I learned from Gary
Vaynerchuk, he always had anideal outcome within the next
six months to a year. So what Iwould ask people is, have you
(07:06):
figured out your ideal outcomein six months? What's your
business look like? How involvedare you in your business? What's
the ideal culture of yourbusiness? Getting Personal. How
much money do you have saved?How much money are you making
monthly? What does your teamlook like? What feelings are you
experiencing the most in sixmonths? If it was ideal, what
(07:28):
are these? What are the answersto these questions? That's
really the first step isfiguring out who you are and
figuring out what your valuesare, and really what your Big
Five is for the next six months.What are your top three goals
for the next 90 days. And thenwhat I have people do is they
write down their top 20 mostcompelling reasons. And here's
what I found in training 1000sof people. 80% of those reasons
(07:51):
are BS. They're materialistic.They don't even wake you up in
the morning. What the heck areyou writing these reasons down
if you're already sleeping in orpushing the alarm clock? You got
to find out of those 20, findfive reasons that drive you,
like your kids, or you're sickof your boss telling you what to
do. If you when you find fiveinternal reasons that drive you,
you'll never lack motivationagain. So then you find out your
(08:12):
compelling reasons and then whatkey behaviors are needed. So
that's the first step, isgetting that absolute clarity.
So once you get clear on kind ofwhat you want and what you're
willing to give up to get whatyou want, and realize you have
to sacrifice. The next step isincreasing your confidence
account, because every singleperson has an account inside
them called their confidenceaccount. Clarity is great, but
(08:33):
without the right confidence,you're not going to accomplish
much. So there's five reallycrucial components to an
unshakable confidence. And Imean, I can go through them, but
the main ones are you have towatch every choice you make,
because they make you. Everychoice you make is either
helping or hurting yourconfidence. So you have to be
aware what you're doing withthat confidence account, because
(08:56):
once you get clear, you're goingto be more motivated. But then
you have to take the rightactions to continue elevating
your confidence. So yourperspective on challenges,
understanding that the biggerthe goal, the bigger the
challenges, is a huge part ofconfidence. Consistency is a
huge part of confidence. BecauseI think the scariest things in
life and business are momentumand lack of momentum, right? So
(09:19):
you want to keep up themomentum. And then fourth is
your identity. You have todevelop an identity with
yourself that whatever you say,your actions follow. I think a
big confident killer is lack offollow through. You have to
understand most people when theysay they're going to do
something, they don't reallythink they're going to do it.
There's nothing else moreimportant in life and business
(09:40):
than your word, because if youdon't have your word, people
will lose respect for yousubconsciously. So the next
thing after you gain confidenceis shifting your circle of
influence and figuring out whoyou spend time with and how are
they influenced. Then you make alist of your top five growth
friends and maintenance friends.Growth friends are friends that
challenge you, that have resultsthat you want, that are list.
Life at a higher level. Playingthe game at higher level, you
(10:02):
want to increase your time withthe maintenance friends, or
friends you met at in highschool, and you feel bad not
hanging out with them, and maybethey're working at the mall, but
you like it. It's fun to hangout with them, but they don't
really help you as far asadvancing towards your biggest
goals and dreams and helpingyour legacy. So you got to lower
your time with the maintenancefriends. You have to cut off
some friends. Yes, you actuallydo.
Host (10:23):
Somebody who's older, do you think that they have
maintenance friends, or theyhave people that they should
really think about, that theymay have to cut some ties with?
Peter Voogd (10:32):
I think really, anybody that's not at a level
they need to be at needs toevaluate really who they're
around the most and who they'rehanging out with, because
sometimes what's more importantthan mentors is who you need to
stay away from. So I mean, it'snot as much as the younger
generation, but I definitelyfeel like there is some older
people that really might stillhave people that kind of drag
(10:54):
them down versus pull them up tohigher standards. With this, you
need to find your top industryleaders, pinpoint the top five
people that are doing whatyou're getting are doing what
you want to do, and reach out tothem. So that's the next step,
is shifting your circle toinfluence. And then once you
shift your circle of influence,you got to make sure you keep
the consistent inner drive andmotivation and energy as well.
(11:18):
And obviously, I don't want totalk too much about energy, but
you got to make sure you'reenergized, physically, mentally,
and then once you kind of figureout what results you're getting,
you see your results going upbecause you have a higher
influence, you have clarity,you're building your confidence.
Then one of my favorites is youcreate result ritual. I think
every problem in people'sbusiness lives is just the lack
of systems in place. I reallythink that's a big issue for
(11:40):
most people. I think the amountof stress people have in their
life or business is in directcorrelation to the lack of
systems or rituals they have inplace. So then you kind of
figure out what rituals haveconsistently been proven to get
results, and once you figure outwhat systems deliver predictable
results, then you put them inplace, and you can put in
mindset, rituals, productivity,rituals, health rituals, wealth
(12:05):
rituals, and then the last oneis just continual growth and
learning which, which, obviouslywe don't spend the time, but
that's just continuing to reachout to high level people and
becoming a people developer,standing on the shoulders of
giants, and learning how toreinvest your profits back into
yourself and back into yourbusiness and staying with that
clarity. So really, that's thekind of the six steps
(12:25):
simplified.
Host (12:25):
I love it. Well, Peter, I really appreciate you being on
the show, and we wish you goodluck.
Peter Voogd (12:30):
Thank you so much you guys.
Grab a pen, because this is a name that you're going to
(00:02):
hear often in the next fewyears. His name is Peter Voogd,
and he's a podcaster. He's theCEO of GameChangersmovement.com
he first started in business at15 years old. By age 22 he had
(00:32):
the classic entrepreneur storyjust broke and stressed, but
then in a year, a year later, hemade a six figure income, and
(01:09):
within three and a half yearsafter that, he had made a
combined total income of over $1million. He now talks about
that formula in Six Months toSix Figures. Peter, thanks for
being here.
Peter Voogd (01:23):
Thank you for having me. And I'm excited to
add as much value as I possiblycan.
Host (01:27):
So I want to kind of zero in on the mental side of this,
like breaking past that sixfigure mark. Do you agree that
it's mostly a mental block?
Peter Voogd (01:36):
Oh, 100% I think, I mean 70 or 80% of it. I think
it's mental, because I seepeople that have capacity and
the skills to get the sixfigures, but they're stuck
making 60 a year because theycan't get past them at the
block. So I fully agree. I thinkthere's kind of two parts to it.
I think one is they're living inthe gap, which means the gap of
where they want to go, which is100k to where they are, maybe
(01:58):
it's 50. They're living inwishing they made 100k thinking
they can't make 100k and they'renot appreciating and being
grateful for where they alreadycame and the progress they've
made. So they're taking too muchof a jump mentally, where it's
almost like you get overwhelmed,and when you're overwhelmed, you
seek distraction. So it's almostlike a self fulfilling prophecy.
(02:18):
If they don't feel like theyhave that could pass to your
potential to make that 100kthey're not going to take the
right action. And when you don'ttake the right action, you get
small results, and then theyreinforce to themselves, yeah, I
knew I couldn't make sixfigures, and it's an ongoing
thing. Whereas the mostsuccessful people make a
definite decision that they'regoing to make, that they put the
(02:39):
steps in place and make a plan,and they take big action, and
that big action produces biggerresults, and then they reinforce
themselves. I knew I could dothis. That's the first part. Is
that mental, that they live inthat gap without actually having
the right strategies andfocusing on consistent progress.
And I think they also comparethemselves to others, which is
(03:00):
definitely very miserable to dothat. And the second thing is, I
don't think the people that arearound or their circle of
influence is congruent to that.Whereas, if they're making 50k a
year, their five best friends,if they add up the income of the
people they hang out with themost, it probably averages
between 50 and 60 a year. So forme, when I was broke, I remember
(03:22):
hanging out with most of thepeople in my company, and they
were struggling, and the sadthing is, they were okay with
it. So I really I reevaluatedand figured out, okay, if
everyone I'm hanging out withthis okay with mediocrity and
doesn't have the standards Iwant to live, I need to shift my
influence. So I think it's a mixbetween that living in the gap
and then not having the rightcircle of influence to really
(03:43):
pull them up to the higherstandard of six figures. And I
feel like if people are sofocused on six figures that they
forget that they need to make 70and then 91st to make 100 it's
going to get them demotivated.So when I was, for example, we
wanted to go for I remember whenI was new to direct sales, I
wanted my office to shoot for a$40,000 week in sales. And in my
(04:07):
mind, I'm like, I don't know howthat's gonna happen, but I was
dedicated to it, but I didn'tknow how it was gonna happen.
And I would think in my head,oh, if I could just do 40 grand
in a week, that is just, I wouldbe on top of the world. Fast
forward to the next summer, whenwe're doing 130k weeks, and I
was mad if we didn't do 100 it'snot that I totally changed
(04:27):
atmospheres and environments andI had new people. No, it's just
my capacity shifted, because Ican strictly elevate my results.
So I think that's the key too,is not focusing on doing the
huge numbers right away, buthaving the action steps and
making sure you have progresschecked along the way. And then
on top of that, connecting withpeople that are already doing
it, so they can cut yourlearning curve in half and you
(04:48):
can get there with it.
Host (04:50):
Yeah, well, if you say this is what I'm going to do,
then you are forcing yourself tocome up with a plan to do it.
But if you say this is somethingI'd like to do, but I don't
think it's really possible.People, you're forcing yourself
to live in that conundrum of, Idon't think I can ever pull it
off.
Peter Voogd (05:05):
Oh, 100% and one of the biggest keys that I talk in
my book is you don't have tocome up with the answers. If you
want to make six figure income,or if you want to become a best
calling author, you have to findthe best people that have
already done it and bepersistent and start connecting
with them so they can give youthe answers, what they did well,
what they would do differently,and that way you can literally
(05:28):
cut your learning curve and app.I didn't want to be a best
selling author and number one onKindle. I found a team that
already did it and gave me thesteps they need to go find the
best people near them and mentorthem and ask them questions and
take them to lunch, becausethat's how they're going to get
to the next level. And you'reeither hanging out with people
that are holding you accountableor letting you off the hook.
(05:50):
There's no in between.
Host (05:51):
Yeah, it is wild. So give us some more practical things in
terms of, you know, let's sayI'm listening to this and I'm
one of those people that going,Yeah, I've been stuck. And, you
know, could be, could be anyplateau. What are? What are some
of the tangible things that Icould start doing to help me go
from, you know, broke to sixfigures in six months, or if I'm
(06:13):
at 200,000 How can I add anothersix figures in six months? What
are the practices?
Peter Voogd (06:20):
Good question. So yeah, and I pride myself in
being more comprehensive andpractical versus, like,
motivational words, like, youjust got to do it, right? I know
a lot of folks said better,like, just do it. But the
reality is, you do have to havepractical steps and tactical
steps as well. So Well, thefirst step, really, is you have
to gain absolute clarity on whoyou are, what your strengths
are, and who you need on yourteam, and then you have to
(06:43):
reverse engineer. So the mostpeople I've talked to whether
they're making 250 a year,whether they're making 50 a
year, they don't have a clearand precise bullet proof plan on
how to get to the next level. Sothey haven't clearly defined
exactly how to get there. So onething I learned from Gary
Vaynerchuk, he always had anideal outcome within the next
six months to a year. So what Iwould ask people is, have you
(07:06):
figured out your ideal outcomein six months? What's your
business look like? How involvedare you in your business? What's
the ideal culture of yourbusiness? Getting Personal. How
much money do you have saved?How much money are you making
monthly? What does your teamlook like? What feelings are you
experiencing the most in sixmonths? If it was ideal, what
(07:28):
are these? What are the answersto these questions? That's
really the first step isfiguring out who you are and
figuring out what your valuesare, and really what your Big
Five is for the next six months.What are your top three goals
for the next 90 days. And thenwhat I have people do is they
write down their top 20 mostcompelling reasons. And here's
what I found in training 1000sof people. 80% of those reasons
(07:51):
are BS. They're materialistic.They don't even wake you up in
the morning. What the heck areyou writing these reasons down
if you're already sleeping in orpushing the alarm clock? You got
to find out of those 20, findfive reasons that drive you,
like your kids, or you're sickof your boss telling you what to
do. If you when you find fiveinternal reasons that drive you,
you'll never lack motivationagain. So then you find out your
(08:12):
compelling reasons and then whatkey behaviors are needed. So
that's the first step, isgetting that absolute clarity.
So once you get clear on kind ofwhat you want and what you're
willing to give up to get whatyou want, and realize you have
to sacrifice. The next step isincreasing your confidence
account, because every singleperson has an account inside
them called their confidenceaccount. Clarity is great, but
(08:33):
without the right confidence,you're not going to accomplish
much. So there's five reallycrucial components to an
unshakable confidence. And Imean, I can go through them, but
the main ones are you have towatch every choice you make,
because they make you. Everychoice you make is either
helping or hurting yourconfidence. So you have to be
aware what you're doing withthat confidence account, because
(08:56):
once you get clear, you're goingto be more motivated. But then
you have to take the rightactions to continue elevating
your confidence. So yourperspective on challenges,
understanding that the biggerthe goal, the bigger the
challenges, is a huge part ofconfidence. Consistency is a
huge part of confidence. BecauseI think the scariest things in
life and business are momentumand lack of momentum, right? So
(09:19):
you want to keep up themomentum. And then fourth is
your identity. You have todevelop an identity with
yourself that whatever you say,your actions follow. I think a
big confident killer is lack offollow through. You have to
understand most people when theysay they're going to do
something, they don't reallythink they're going to do it.
There's nothing else moreimportant in life and business
(09:40):
than your word, because if youdon't have your word, people
will lose respect for yousubconsciously. So the next
thing after you gain confidenceis shifting your circle of
influence and figuring out whoyou spend time with and how are
they influenced. Then you make alist of your top five growth
friends and maintenance friends.Growth friends are friends that
challenge you, that have resultsthat you want, that are list.
Life at a higher level. Playingthe game at higher level, you
(10:02):
want to increase your time withthe maintenance friends, or
friends you met at in highschool, and you feel bad not
hanging out with them, and maybethey're working at the mall, but
you like it. It's fun to hangout with them, but they don't
really help you as far asadvancing towards your biggest
goals and dreams and helpingyour legacy. So you got to lower
your time with the maintenancefriends. You have to cut off
some friends. Yes, you actuallydo.
Host (10:23):
Somebody who's older, do you think that they have
maintenance friends, or theyhave people that they should
really think about, that theymay have to cut some ties with?
Peter Voogd (10:32):
I think really, anybody that's not at a level
they need to be at needs toevaluate really who they're
around the most and who they'rehanging out with, because
sometimes what's more importantthan mentors is who you need to
stay away from. So I mean, it'snot as much as the younger
generation, but I definitelyfeel like there is some older
people that really might stillhave people that kind of drag
(10:54):
them down versus pull them up tohigher standards. With this, you
need to find your top industryleaders, pinpoint the top five
people that are doing whatyou're getting are doing what
you want to do, and reach out tothem. So that's the next step,
is shifting your circle toinfluence. And then once you
shift your circle of influence,you got to make sure you keep
the consistent inner drive andmotivation and energy as well.
(11:18):
And obviously, I don't want totalk too much about energy, but
you got to make sure you'reenergized, physically, mentally,
and then once you kind of figureout what results you're getting,
you see your results going upbecause you have a higher
influence, you have clarity,you're building your confidence.
Then one of my favorites is youcreate result ritual. I think
every problem in people'sbusiness lives is just the lack
of systems in place. I reallythink that's a big issue for
(11:40):
most people. I think the amountof stress people have in their
life or business is in directcorrelation to the lack of
systems or rituals they have inplace. So then you kind of
figure out what rituals haveconsistently been proven to get
results, and once you figure outwhat systems deliver predictable
results, then you put them inplace, and you can put in
mindset, rituals, productivity,rituals, health rituals, wealth
(12:05):
rituals, and then the last oneis just continual growth and
learning which, which, obviouslywe don't spend the time, but
that's just continuing to reachout to high level people and
becoming a people developer,standing on the shoulders of
giants, and learning how toreinvest your profits back into
yourself and back into yourbusiness and staying with that
clarity. So really, that's thekind of the six steps
(12:25):
simplified.
Host (12:25):
I love it. Well, Peter, I really appreciate you being on
the show, and we wish you goodluck.
Peter Voogd (12:30):
Thank you so much you guys.
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