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Host (00:00):
I am so excited about our next guest, Bruce Van Horn. You probably haven't heard of him. He's
not Lady Gaga, he's not a celebrity, necessarily. He's not a somebody who is is really something
that you would see on TV. And yet, he is using Twitter to create an impact in the world, to get his
message out there. And I absolutely have been inspired watching it. We've got him on the show today
to talk about Twitter tips for movers and shakers. Bruce Van Horn, welcome to the show, my friend.
You know, first of all, why do you think that you have such devout and engaged followers?
Bruce Van Horn (00:33):
It's pretty amazing. And I think the things that I do, I don't think are special. I
think that they're just common sense. I'm a little bit confused why more people don't do it? I think
the real reason is that I just try to be real. I just try to be a real guy. I'm a dad, I'm a
business owner. I'm really interested in things related leadership. And so I write about those
things, I tweet about those things. People are just interested in them, you know? So I share my
successes. I share my failures. The things that I'm thinking about, and people have just really sort
of bought into that, you know, I don't try to be something that I'm not. I think that's really just
it, the authenticity of just sharing what I really am.
Host (01:19):
What are some of the big mistakes and that you think people make?
Bruce Van Horn (01:22):
Well, I think that they just don't understand the platform. The old school was that
you just inundated the marketplace with your brand or your product, hoping to just saturate the
market, so that when somebody was in the in the market for a widget yours, the first thing that came
to mind, and people that are on social media are on social media because they're actually trying to
avoid that. They're it's not the flyers that come in your mailbox or the junk mail or even the spam
that shows up in your mailbox. They're on social media simply for the purpose of connecting, and
they just don't want to be bombarded with advertisement. And so Twitter especially well, while
Facebook is great, advertisements are certainly making their way into Facebook and and there are
pros and cons to that, but especially Twitter, there people are there to have short conversations,
share what's going on with their lives, or to ask a quick question. And so when businesses are out
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there on Twitter, and all they're doing is tweeting, hey, this product is on sale for such and such,here's the link, or, you know, this product, and all they're doing is selling, people get really
turned off by that, because what they really want is to connect, because again, the marketplace is
shifting, and people are interested in building relationships. And so let's just use for example, I
bought a car at Carmax recently, and the guy who sold me my car was so great. Even gave me his home
phone number if I had any questions while I was in the buying process. The next time that I'm in the
market for a car, I'm going to call him on a cell phone, or I'm going to call him at home. And if he
worked at Carmax greater, if you worked you know, the next dealership, he's probably going to be my
go to guy. The next time I'm in the market for a car, and building relationships with people, that's
really what's going to bring them back, using your marketing efforts and especially social media, to
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just be useful, to put information that useful to your clients, that may not necessarily. It's okayto send a link out if you're if you're running a sale on something, it's a great way to get an
instant message out there to somebody so that your customer can come in. And I think what you really
need to be doing is just interacting.
Host (03:43):
So is the strategy then that I want to teach my people to use Twitter to build human
connections with you. And, you know, hopefully I'm doing a good job of keeping my people around?
Bruce Van Horn (03:52):
Yeah, I think that that really what it is. And I know that a lot of companies worry
about that. I think every business owner is concerned when they're when their number one salesperson
goes to another company, that they're going to take those leads with them, but I really think that
that's a fear that placed them in the wrong place.
Host (04:10):
Bruce, let's say I'm in business. What are the strategies that you have for me that I can do,
the practical things that I could do that to boost my influence on Twitter?
Bruce Van Horn (04:21):
Sure, I think some of the things are just so constant that you almost overlook them.
I think obviously the Golden Rule treat other people as you would have them treat you should. Should
be your number one rule in business and in life anyway. But basically, just spend more time being
interested in others. Rather than trying to be interesting to others, it is being other focused.
Make it all about your users, all about your customers, rather than about you. Certainly you're
going to want to promote your business, but you just don't want to be doing that all of the time.
There's so many things that you can do if you just pay attention. Attention, a little bit of
attention when you're watching your followers, your Twitter followers will tell you certain things
about their lives, things that they're doing, things they're interested in or or excited about. I'm
a marathon runner, so I have a lot of followers who tweet about races that they're going to be
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running. I'll make little notes about that, and a week or so later, I'll send a tweet out and say,Hey, Brian, how'd you do in that in the national marathon last month? And they're really cut by
that. So be be aware that you can use Twitter as a way to reach out not just to your whole audience,
but to an individual, for example, Chris liccardo, who used to host the entree leadership podcast,
Chris wound up leaving the Dave Ramsey organization not too long ago to go and do this thing. But he
just mentioned in passing that his daughter had been very, very sick and had been in the hospital.
And I just sent a tweet out to Chris and say, Chris, you know, sorry, but you left the Dave Ramsey
organization. Glad you're doing other things, but by the way, how's your daughter doing? He was just
really touched that I remembered, let alone bothered. Ask, I think, other things that you need to do
on Twitter or be a positive voice, be an encourager. Send tweets out there that that encourage
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people and motivate people to be better than they otherwise would have been. You just never knowwhen somebody is having a bad day and they need to hear something, even if it has nothing to do with
your business, send out some encouraging tweet be thankful. Great friend of mine runs a local
running store. People come in to a store with the encourages people to come in with their rate DIB
from any race that they've run, and he puts their pictures up on his Facebook page. And people eat
that up because they love just a little recognition. Also, there's putting links out there, you
know. So you know, while you've got a lot of content, there's probably content out there that you
haven't written, that your followers might be interested in.
Host (07:05):
Well, folks, there you have it. Bruce Van Horn, Bruce, thank you for being on the show. We
really, really appreciate having you.
Bruce Van Horn (07:12):
It was great giving me the opportunity, really do.