AI Legal Talk That Can Save You Millions I Ambur Smith + Cameron Powell

⚠️ If you think legal can wait until launch—you're already behind.

In this episode of The AI CEO, I sat down with powerhouse attorneys Ambur Smith (Founder, Ambur Smith Law) and Cameron Powell (Founding Partner, Deep Law) for a no-BS conversation on the legal landmines, ethical dilemmas, and massive opportunities AI is creating across startups, scaleups, and enterprise.

We unpacked:
• Why "automating innovation" can easily become "automating liability"
• The IP, contract, and privacy red flags that kill valuation at due diligence
• Why GenAI isn't exempt from copyright—and what the courts actually look at
• The myth of the AI-free workplace (spoiler: shadow AI is everywhere)
• How to actually mitigate risk using AI as a legal tool (and yes—some lawyers use GPT in court)
• What happens when an AI chatbot misquotes company policy in front of a judge 👀
• The biggest legal edge for founders in 2025 (hint: audit trail = valuation moat)

Whether you're a tech CEO, in-house counsel, or just trying to stay out of the headlines—this one's essential.

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⏱️ CHAPTERS / TIMESTAMPS

(00:00) Introduction to the AI CEO Podcast
(02:09) Meet the Expert Guests: ambur Smith and Cameron Powell
(03:30) Legal Dynamics and AI
(08:36) AI in Legal Practice: Tools and Trust
(19:58) Challenges and Responsibilities in AI Adoption
(45:11) Understanding AI in Legal Practice
(46:03) Diverse Perspectives in Law and Technology
(47:54) Use Cases: Successes and Failures
(48:22) Risk Hierarchy and AI Implementation
(50:38) Guardrails and Legal Research Tools
(51:50) AI in Marketing and Real Estate
(53:32) Innovations in Regulated Industries
(55:30) Data Privacy and Ethical Considerations
(57:54) Navigating Legal Risks in AI
(01:13:25) The Future of AI in Legal Representation
(01:20:29) Rapid Fire Questions and Final Thoughts

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🔑 KEY TAKEAWAYS

Liability-as-a-Service – Without legal vetting, your AI product isn't a SaaS. It's a ticking time bomb.
Copyright ≠ AI Immunity – If your content was auto-generated, you may not own it—and can't enforce it.
Red Line Rule – If you didn't revise the AI's draft, you may not hold the copyright.
Shadow AI Is Real – Banning AI tools doesn't stop your team from using them (secretly).
Trust, but Verify – From discovery tools to ChatGPT, the best lawyers use AI—just not blindly.
Generalist Advantage – The most valuable legal minds are those who blend tech, product, and policy fluency.

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🌐 LINKS & RESOURCES

• Ambur Smith Law – https://ambursmithlaw.com
• Deep Law (Cameron Powell) – [Insert Link]
• Virgent AI (show sponsor) – https://virgent.ai